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[00:16:44] <Kunda_> is it an XFCE thing if when I press ctrl + '2 finger scroll on trackpad' (which usually zooms the screen in/out of an application) that my whole desktop zooms in and then I can't unzoom it ?
[00:16:51] <Kunda_> or is it a manjaro thing ?
[00:17:05] <xangua> Xfce
[00:17:11] <Kunda_> so when I move the mouse, the whole screen moves
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[01:05:57] <ringos> hi
[01:08:33] <Kjeldmis> hi ringos
[01:08:42] <Kjeldmis> hows it going?
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[01:12:44] <ringos> good:)
[01:12:56] <ringos> bit of drawing :)
[01:13:13] <ringos> making my own boring icon theme :p
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[01:16:39] <Kjeldmis> cool :) can I have a look?
[01:19:14] <ringos> no, you dont like it, but stil bussy :p
[01:19:31] <ringos> is more kinda antergos theme setting :p
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[01:23:54] <manjaro_user> hello
[01:24:01] <Kjeldmis> well hellp
[01:24:04] <Kjeldmis> hello
[01:24:09] <Kjeldmis> ~
[01:24:14] <ringos> :)
[01:24:17] <manjaro_user> I keep installing Manjaro but when it reboots it says "invalid partition table". I've tried UEFI and Legacy boot.
[01:24:30] <manjaro_user> Is this a fixable issue?
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[01:25:17] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: you should choose the appropiate partition table for your setup
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[01:25:33] <manjaro_user> Kjeldmis, I used what it recommended.
[01:25:34] <Kjeldmis> GPT for UEFI, MBR for legacy
[01:26:12] <Kjeldmis> you should generally inspect that what it recommends also is "sane"
[01:27:10] <manjaro_user> I'm on Legacy now. MBR is already showiwing, nothing clickable though.
[01:27:42] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: clear the disk with gparted and write the right partition table to it.
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[01:29:03] <Kjeldmis> if your booting on legacy, mark the / partition as bootable. If your booting on UEFI. create a small FAT32 partition at the beginning of the drive and mount it as /boot/efi
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[01:30:55] <manjaro_user> Had to run Gparted as root to delete a partition that had a flag.
[01:31:13] <Kjeldmis> y, gparted cant be run as a user.
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[01:31:19] <manjaro_user> ext4 formatting for Legacy?
[01:31:30] <Kjeldmis> should be fine
[01:31:34] <manjaro_user> It wouldn't let me do it before taking root.
[01:32:12] <Kjeldmis> I would recommend you to use UEFI if your system supports it.
[01:32:34] <manjaro_user> ok brb
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[01:37:52] <manjaro_user> ok trying again
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[01:39:40] <manjaro_user> I think the issue may have been that flagged partition.
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[01:58:58] <manjaro_user> What's the recommended mount point for EUFI again?
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[02:09:17] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: create a small FAT32 partition at the beginning of the drive. 500 MB will do
[02:09:29] <Kjeldmis> and mount it as /boot/efi
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[02:11:49] <manjaro_user> ok thanks Kjeldmis
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[02:12:07] <Kjeldmis> np
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[02:59:51] <hedgie> hey, new member to the community, although not totally inexperienced with arch/manjaro
[03:11:06] <Kjeldmis> hedgie: welcome
[03:12:44] <hedgie> thanks
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[04:26:52] <benfitzpatrick> hey all, im trying to do a manjaro respin i have everything setup and ready to build i just wanna add AUR packages. Im trying to do buildpkg -p teamviewer for example and it keeps erroring saying R7jDVvNw idk why this is, i tried over 3+ times im following the howto on the wiki on manjaro.org im stumped as to what to do
[04:27:06] <benfitzpatrick> it keeps giving me the same error on every package i build
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[04:28:02] <benfitzpatrick> and all i knew to do was come ask for assistance in here
[04:31:12] <benfitzpatrick> so .. yeah
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[04:38:43] <PMunch> benfitzpatrick, do you have the whole error message?
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[04:40:06] <benfitzpatrick> thats the whole error dude
[04:40:27] <PMunch> The entire error is "R7jDVvNw"?
[04:40:32] <benfitzpatrick> one sec
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[04:47:01] <benfitzpatrick> PMunch, try this one http://pastebin.com/duBaH827
[04:49:39] <PMunch> Hmm, that is a strange error message..
[04:51:39] <PMunch> Seems to originate from here: https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools/blob/master/bin/chroot-run.in
[04:51:55] <PMunch> What was the command you try to run?
[04:52:05] <PMunch> Just buildpkg -p teamviewer?
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[04:53:01] <benfitzpatrick> yea
[04:53:10] <benfitzpatrick> just buildpkg -a teamviewer
[04:53:13] <PMunch> https://lists.manjaro.org/pipermail/manjaro-dev/Week-of-Mon-20160425/001133.html
[04:53:18] <PMunch> That might also be of interest
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[04:55:01] <benfitzpatrick> yeah the -c had to be used
[04:55:16] <PMunch> So it works now?
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[04:55:48] <benfitzpatrick> ya
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[04:56:11] <PMunch> Great! Then I'm off to bed :)
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[04:59:21] <benfitzpatrick> well got another error
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[05:18:05] <rhg136> uh, why does pacstrap on stable include linux310 if the lts is 4.4??
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[06:48:33] <Vlado9A> good morning
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[07:04:34] <benfitzpatrick> hey guys im trying to build my manjaro respin ISO i got everything setup but i get this error, idk why http://pastebin.com/Me6vfiMp
[07:04:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BZYUKH] Installing packages to /var/lib/manjaro-tools/buildiso/xfce/x86_64/root-image  e - Pastebin.com
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[07:05:31] <benfitzpatrick> and i have tried building it 3+ times it keeps giving me the same error
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[07:07:22] <benfitzpatrick> and idk why it keeps doing that
[07:09:30] <benfitzpatrick> and as the guide says i did buildiso -p xfce, and it gives that error
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[07:13:12] <benfitzpatrick> ?
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[07:40:40] <benfitzpatrick> well guys i rebooted, still wont build the iso ughh
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[07:43:00] <benfitzpatrick> and i have been at this over 3hrs i really need to get this uploaded
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[07:43:21] <benfitzpatrick> and built
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[07:46:44] <benfitzpatrick> this is the link to the error i get over and over again http://pastebin.com/Me6vfiMp
[07:46:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BZYUKH] Installing packages to /var/lib/manjaro-tools/buildiso/xfce/x86_64/root-image  e - Pastebin.com
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[07:56:55] <benfitzpatrick> anyone there guys?
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[08:04:26] <benfitzpatrick> guys can someone plz help fix this error, i HAVE to get this fixed tonight. else im screwed, im building this Manjaro ISO for my work and if i dont have it by work tomorrow in the AM im f-ed
[08:04:42] <benfitzpatrick> and im already almost past my deadline to be done
[08:05:24] <thid> ?
[08:05:42] <benfitzpatrick> im saying i HAVE to get this manjaro respin ISO done tonight else im fired from work
[08:06:05] <benfitzpatrick> and its having errors shown here http://pastebin.com/Me6vfiMp
[08:06:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BZYUKH] Installing packages to /var/lib/manjaro-tools/buildiso/xfce/x86_64/root-image  e - Pastebin.com
[08:06:15] <benfitzpatrick> and nobody has offered to help me yet
[08:06:47] <peetaur> let's see your pacman-basestrap.conf
[08:06:53] <benfitzpatrick> ok jus a min
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[08:10:58] <benfitzpatrick> here it is http://pastebin.com/RFK4qSWf
[08:10:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/OTFbM8] pacman basestrap.conf - Pastebin.com
[08:11:35] <benfitzpatrick> i am building AUR packages into my ISO btw
[08:12:42] <thid> emmm did u add base-devel group ?
[08:12:53] <benfitzpatrick> i could have sworn i did
[08:13:03] <benfitzpatrick> i guess not
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[08:18:22] <benfitzpatrick> uhmm where do i do that
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[08:25:18] <benfitzpatrick> ok im offically stumped
[08:27:19] <benfitzpatrick> i put base-devel in my basestrap.conf file and it keeps getting over written
[08:29:31] <benfitzpatrick> ugh this is nuts
[08:30:32] <benfitzpatrick> i did put the base-devel line in package-root in my overlay but it still wont build
[08:31:17] <benfitzpatrick> im not sure what to do y'all
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[09:33:27] <peetaur> benklett: ok so the line 1-4 are comments and it complains about line 1... so my guess is your file has CRLF (windows style) line endings instead of LF (linux style)... so change that using dos2unix. back up your file first.
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[09:34:39] <benfitzpatrick> ok i have tried building my respin of manjaro over 10 times, it wont do it
[09:34:44] <benfitzpatrick> same error as before
[09:34:53] <benfitzpatrick> i added base-devel, no fix
[09:35:45] <cor1u1m> benfitzpatrick: maybe you shall create a post on a forum, your issue seems to need a deeper investigation that may not be solved with IRC
[09:36:15] <benfitzpatrick> well as i stated i have to get this to build before work tomorrow, if i dont my boss'll have a fit
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[09:36:59] <benfitzpatrick> he said "ben, you don't come in with that ISO on a USB, you're outta here"
[09:37:45] <cor1u1m> benfitzpatrick: then maximize opportunities to get answers from experts rather than trying only to get answers from one funnel of communication (IRC)
[09:38:06] <benfitzpatrick> well idk where to go now
[09:38:08] <cor1u1m> write down everything, prepare a nice post and get some help on gnux forums!
[09:38:28] <peetaur> benfitzpatrick: run   file pacman-basestrap.conf    what does it say exactly?
[09:38:52] <cor1u1m> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ and co
[09:38:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ebrcwS] Linux Forums
[09:39:41] <benfitzpatrick> so do file to that file right peetaur?
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[09:43:20] <benfitzpatrick> if im reading u properly
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[09:45:12] <peetaur> run the file command on that file yes
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[09:46:58] <benfitzpatrick> ok just a moment then
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[09:51:38] <benfitzpatrick> here's what that file shows as http://pastebin.com/HugydPrE
[09:51:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ln3poR] /var/lib/manjaro-tools/buildiso/xfce/x86_64/root-image/pacman-basestrap.conf: UT - Pastebin.com
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[09:57:06] <benfitzpatrick> seems like its not usable
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[10:06:09] <benfitzpatrick> but im not sure
[10:06:20] <benfitzpatrick> peetaur, hows it look?
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[10:17:46] <peetaur> it doesn't say CRLF, so my guess is not right
[10:18:03] <peetaur> so next....what is the command you run that fails? are yo usure it expects a pacman.conf syntax, not something else?
[10:18:43] <benfitzpatrick> the command i ran that fails is buildiso -p xfce
[10:18:51] <benfitzpatrick> thats whats failing
[10:19:06] <benfitzpatrick> it fails when copying the packages over
[10:19:22] <benfitzpatrick> to the root-image folder
[10:19:38] <benfitzpatrick> it keeps complaining about that file
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[10:23:59] <benfitzpatrick> and it keeps doing that whenever i build my ISO
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[10:29:38] <michaelrose> I want to thank you guys for creating a Manjaro i3 edition
[10:30:35] <michaelrose> i3 definitely didn't have near enough users who don't understand what shell or path mean
[10:31:36] <michaelrose> non sarcastically it really needs better default apps
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[10:33:22] <michaelrose> lilyterm is more friendly than urxvt and automatically works like urxvt-daemon, spacefm is a better file manager nano is an ...interesting choice, zathura is massively better than epdfview, mpv is better than vlc, optionally with smplayer providing a vlc like gui
[10:34:13] <michaelrose> example zathura has way better keyboard controls, and with zathura-mupdf backend supports not only pdfs but epub/mobi
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[10:35:13] <michaelrose> vlc has gotten somewhat better at using the gpu vs cpu, it used to be near worthless using 10x as much cpu as mpv, but its still heavier and buggier
[10:35:45] <michaelrose> forgot rofi is better than dmenu
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[10:40:25] <negen> michaelrose, some of those commits are probably more well suited for the forums if you want anything to change
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[10:40:55] <negen> Most people here are just users that like to talk to much and perhaps in some talks help people out a bit
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[10:47:50] <michaelrose> I will make a post to that effect then
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[10:54:07] <negen> I agree with mpv being better than vlc though
[10:54:16] <negen> i do not know why vlc is still so popular
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[10:58:12] * ringos likes vlc
[11:00:29] <ringos> i hate that smbclient get installed :p
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[11:04:59] <thid> ringos: yo
[11:05:05] <ringos> thid,  hej
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[11:13:55] <negen> it is something that I think many people find useful though
[11:14:27] <ringos> could be :) but i dont need it :)
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[11:25:58] <negen> I know ringos the only thing you need in your life is me
[11:26:31] <ringos> lol
[11:26:39] <ringos> i cant even count to negen :)
[11:27:06] <negen> the beats in your heart count for you
[11:27:40] <negen> my new laptop wont get here until Thursday
[11:28:08] <negen> I think that asus is having distribution issues I probably should have bought the acer or the msi
[11:28:23] <negen> the acer was bit out price range though
[11:28:40] <negen> it will be neat to test pascal
[11:29:09] <negen> the 1060 should be powerful enough for 1080p anyways
[11:32:19] <ringos> thought asus would be fine
[11:33:00] <negen> well there is some issue with the shipping
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[11:33:33] <negen> i paid extra to get fast shipping and they should have sent it four days ago
[11:34:02] <negen> i bought from amazon but also i checked the newegg reviews and newegg buyers had similar issues
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[11:34:45] <ringos> stil prefers store :)
[11:37:50] <negen> yeah there is not a store that close to me i should have gone to the store but i was trying to avoid paying the 150$ in tax
[11:38:02] <negen> already was 350$ over budget
[11:38:09] <negen> didn't want to push more
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[11:38:27] <negen> my fault i guess
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[11:38:46] <ringos> :)
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[11:44:02] <negen> I bought a nvme ssd for this laptop too
[11:44:16] <negen> just a cheap 120gb one but should be good enough for boot
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[11:44:47] <negen> one of the my digital ssd's entry level brands
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[11:47:03] <ringos> :)
[11:47:07] <ringos> have to go :)
[11:47:37] <ringos> negen,  one screenshot for you :)
[11:47:38] <ringos> http://i.imgur.com/b6eWr5V.png
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[11:47:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/uxo4Pm] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[11:47:41] <ringos> bye all =)
[11:48:11] <thid> cya ringos
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[11:59:23] <negen> oh i see mpv has a osd gui
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[12:18:31] <armandg> does anyone know how I can make my webcam work in Citric icaclient? it works fine when connecting directly in vlc
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[12:19:56] <benfitzpatrick> well all my manjaro ISO started to build BUT when it goes to install XFCE it says target not found after the repo extra part
[12:20:53] <benfitzpatrick> and i would make a forum post on this but im SO tired rn and i've been at this for hours, i just wanna get this thing to build fully, and leave it at that
[12:23:01] <benfitzpatrick> here's my packages-xfce file btw http://pastebin.com/kTfi4hZN
[12:23:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eVmdOV] packages-xfce manjaro - Pastebin.com
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[12:50:50] <thid> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ34B5290 I'm so gona buy this @_@
[12:50:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PUogqI] AMD Radeon SSD Radeon R7 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) RADEON-R7SSD-120G - Newegg.com
[12:54:31] <negen> thid, why would you buy that
[12:54:53] <negen> it is a re-branded ocz and ocz drives are much cheaper
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[12:57:15] <thid> negen: that amd is abit better then OCZ ARC 100
[12:58:02] <negen> well internally they are the same
[12:58:10] <negen> only differences are the colors
[12:59:01] <thid> well the diffrent in price is 5$
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[12:59:57] <negen> if you want a really good MLC nand ssd the pny PNY CS2211 is probably the best
[13:00:20] <negen> i returned my ocz drives because they were too slow
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[13:01:30] <thid> nah I dont want to spend that much on ssd
[13:01:46] <thid> beside allready got 240gb iridium pro
[13:01:53] <thid> now I just want 120gb for system
[13:02:00] <thid> and was thinking about amd r7 on mlc
[13:02:02] <negen> well the pny 240 is 119$
[13:02:11] <thid> coz nothing better around
[13:02:24] <negen> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8H53YE3339&cm_re=PNY_CS2211-_-20-178-970-_-Product
[13:02:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/l3ospW] PNY CS2211 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSD7CS2211-240-RB - Newegg.com
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[13:03:01] <thid> the amd r7 I will get for 70$
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[13:03:21] <negen> oh in that case i guess get it i saw the price as 149$
[13:03:24] <negen> SR-2% sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[13:03:24] <negen>  Timing cached reads:   14866 MB in  1.99 seconds = 7454.81 MB/sec
[13:03:24] <negen>  Timing buffered disk reads: 2268 MB in  3.00 seconds = 755.63 MB/sec
[13:03:41] <negen> this is the speed of my pny disk
[13:04:45] <thid> HyperX Fury, OCZ ARC100, XPG SX930. amd r7
[13:05:07] <negen> I have build quite a few pc's with this disk
[13:05:08] <negen> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226791&cm_re=muskin_ssd-_-20-226-791-_-Product
[13:05:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wZcR9n] Mushkin Enhanced ECO3 2.5" 240GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDE3240GB - Newegg.com
[13:05:16] <negen> and all the customers were quite happy
[13:05:31] <thid> I want 120gb
[13:05:34] <thid> no need for bigger
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[13:07:13] <negen> I do not know much about 120gb disks I never really look at them these days as price is much more than the 240gb now
[13:08:12] <negen> I would look at the controllers of the disks and if they built in encryption tools
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[13:13:43] <thid> JMicron JMF670H
[13:13:51] <thid> OCZ Barefoot 3 M00
[13:14:02] <thid> OCZ Barefoot 3 M10
[13:14:10] <thid> SandForce SF-2281
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[13:16:46] <negen> out of those the ocz probably is the best if you get it for 70$
[13:16:59] <thid> m00 have bettter performance then m10
[13:16:59] <negen> that is what I paid for the pny 240GB i have
[13:18:07] <thid> so anyway thats why I got for r7
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[13:18:17] <thid> nothing better to get at that price
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[13:20:50] <thid> Intel 120GB 2,5'' SATA SSD 535
[13:21:04] <thid> WD 120GB WD Green SSD
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[13:21:13] <thid> OCZ 120GB 2,5'' SATA SSD Trion 150
[13:21:17] <thid> are my other options
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[13:24:08] <negen> 120GB CS1311 SSD might be a good choice
[13:24:13] <thid> but amd r7 wins in benchamrk with most of them :/
[13:24:20] <negen> it uses a phision controller which is good
[13:25:05] <negen> I do not know how those websites benchmark but sometimes the drives do not hold water to my tests
[13:25:10] <negen> i do not know why
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[13:25:33] <thid> well the cs1311 I can get for 57$
[13:25:43] <thid> but its TLC
[13:25:52] <thid> while for 70$ I can get MLC
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[13:29:01] <negen> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71RsW83vtGL.jpg
[13:29:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/P6Zjnj] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
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[13:29:12] <negen> oh yeah i forgot that parts the cs2211 is the mlc nand
[13:29:39] <thid> :/
[13:29:52] <negen> mind you this is on a computer built in 2011
[13:29:57] <negen> old hardware
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[13:30:20] <thid> well don't have much choice
[13:30:29] <thid> when it comes to 120gb mlc
[13:30:52] <negen> why are you stuck at 120gb when 240 is the same price ?
[13:31:00] <thid> its not same
[13:31:40] <negen> well that amd drive is listed as 149 so you must be getting a good deal on it
[13:31:41] <thid> its usually 20-25$ higher then 120gb
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[13:31:54] <thid> negen: yeah pretty much
[13:32:24] <negen> the cs 2211 is 79$ for 240gb mlc nand
[13:32:46] <negen> when I bought it last summer they were 69$
[13:32:51] <negen> so price went up a bit
[13:33:20] <thid> 127$ here
[13:33:23] <negen> but with your discounts the amd thing should be good enough
[13:34:26] <thid> btw any good way to test ssd on linux ? I just got 9 ssd to test before I put them in PC
[13:34:48] <negen> sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
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[13:35:36] <thid> Timing cached reads:   12144 MB in  2.00 seconds = 6075.00 MB/sec
[13:35:36] <thid>  Timing buffered disk reads: 1296 MB in  3.00 seconds = 431.78 MB/sec
[13:35:55] <thid> anything else ?
[13:36:18] <negen> the others tests i ran ended wiping my disk so i do not feel safe with them
[13:36:24] <thid> they are going to all-in-one so I would prefere to check them before I put them inside
[13:36:46] <negen> there may be bench mark tests but mostly they use the same tools just in different ways
[13:37:22] <negen> which is write something with a timer attached and then it calculates the read /write speeds
[13:37:24] <thid> jsut asking, hdd u had to check with badblocks etc
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[13:40:34] <negen> the hyperX savage should be good it has a phision controller
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[14:39:02] <manjaroi3> Hey good day to all! Any manjaro-i3 users here? I wonder where can i adjust power settings... the pre installed xfce power manager seems useless when i want to stop my laptop from going to suspend mode when i shut it.
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[14:44:33] <tme> ever heard of paste services?
[14:44:50] <tme> whoops, wrong channel
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[15:26:09] <gourab> I have a weird problem
[15:26:32] <gourab> manjaro kde is stuck at starting 232 screen
[15:27:14] <gourab> I can login using tty2 and start gui by startx command
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[15:28:45] <NanoSector> what display manager do you use?
[15:28:54] <gourab> sddm
[15:29:14] <NanoSector> doesi t throw any error?
[15:29:52] <gourab> no. If i boot normally it get stuck at starting 232 screen.
[15:31:03] <gourab> I'm no expert but I checked Xorg.0.log but did not find anything
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[15:34:58] <gourab> here is Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/0Wwpa73a
[15:35:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jad2hi] [Bash] [     3.780] (--) Log file renamed from "/var/log/Xorg.pid-608.log" to "/var/log - Pastebin.com
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[15:38:58] <gourab> anyone?
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[15:41:06] <thid> sorry making usb stick with win10 on linux o_O
[15:42:12] <thid>  4.468] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[15:42:36] <thid> looks like drivers issuse
[15:42:37] <NanoSector> thid: the way i do it is make a FAT32 partition on the drive, then mount the ISO somewhere and copy the files off the iso onto the drive. never works for me with dd and stuff
[15:43:07] <gourab> if you are on windows try rufus
[15:43:33] <NanoSector> gourab: xorg.0.log doesn't say much, check journalctl -u sddm.service
[15:43:37] <NanoSector> i think that aws the syntax
[15:43:41] <thid> gourab: I'm on linux
[15:44:02] <thid> NanoSector: trying winUSB
[15:44:07] <thid> its even in aur
[15:44:19] <NanoSector> winusb is always broken for me
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[15:44:38] <thid> cli version or gui?
[15:44:42] <NanoSector> both
[15:44:42] <thid> coz gui is broken
[15:44:49] <thid> cli from root works nice
[15:46:27] <gourab> Nanosector: Here is the output of journalctl -u sddm.service http://pastebin.com/s8EB9kze
[15:46:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/69kk9F] [Bash] -- Logs begin at Tue 2017-01-10 18:25:29 IST, end at Tue 2017-01-10 20:03:52 IST - Pastebin.com
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[15:57:20] <NanoSector> gourab: hmm
[15:57:25] <NanoSector> gourab: sddm-helper seems to crash
[15:57:44] <gourab> any workaround or solution?
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[15:58:02] <NanoSector> you can enable lightdm if you want
[15:58:06] <NanoSector> !aw lightdm @ gourab
[15:58:07] <Botergos> gourab: LightDM - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM
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[15:59:43] <gourab> does lightdm plays nice with kde?
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[16:11:32] <ardbeg> Hi. I just installed manjaro and i want to change the swappiness, but i cant find the config files. Can anyone help me?
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[16:13:10] <NanoSector> gourab: i think it does
[16:13:18] <NanoSector> ardbeg: maybe the arch wiki on swap can help you
[16:13:20] <NanoSector> !aw swap @ ardbeg
[16:13:20] <Botergos> ardbeg: Swap - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap
[16:15:13] <ardbeg> Botergos: I have checked out that site, but in /etc/sysctl.d/ there is no files at all
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[16:21:47] <robin0800> ardbeg, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-do-i-reduce-swappiness/14170
[16:21:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/80MQFv] How do I reduce swappiness? - Manjaro
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[16:23:47] <NanoSector> ardbeg: you can create files tehre
[16:23:48] <NanoSector> *there
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[16:27:10] <ardbeg> So on a fresh manjaro install there should not be any files in the /etc/sysctl.d/ folder at all? sorry for ny noob question. Completely new to linux
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[16:29:37] <ardbeg> seems like I can't even create a new file in that folder. When I right click the option for creating a file is greyed out
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[16:35:30] <LyriCa> helllew
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[16:44:40] <abhisek> sddm crashing with code 15 any help?
[16:45:45] <abhisek> I'm on manjaro kde. I can manually login and startx just fine.
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[16:48:33] <inahd> well, the guys over at #radeon had me boot up fedora 25 and apparently opengl and mesa were working nicely
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[16:49:55] <inahd> wonder why i can't get open drivers to work in manjaro :|
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[16:50:27] <inahd> i suppose i will take this opportunity to curse my wireless card as well
[16:50:43] <inahd> fedora 25 didn't fix that one
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[16:51:55] <inahd> morning all :)
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[17:03:49] <ardbeg> How can I create a file in a directory that I don't have permission to create files?
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[17:04:14] <ardbeg> Is there a command i can run in the terminal?
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[17:05:02] <inahd> ardbeg, sudo
[17:05:30] <inahd> alternately, right clicking in file manager should allow you root access
[17:06:26] <ardbeg> when right clicking in the file manager the option for creating a file is greyed out
[17:06:38] <inahd> there should be thunar root.
[17:06:53] <inahd> it will open file manager with root access
[17:07:08] <inahd> assuming you are using thunar
[17:07:26] <inahd> otherwise sudo mkdir /blahblah/blah
[17:07:30] <ardbeg> oh. nice :) thanks alot
[17:07:47] <inahd> glad to be of use
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[17:45:56] <bbgun7> I have a weird problem with suspending my laptop, can I ask it here or should I just post on the forums?
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[17:48:47] <manjaro-web|4421> I actually just posted a question to the forums. I'm not terribly familliar with the guidelines in this chatroom, so I just posted there.
[17:50:12] <kritikk> is wayland default to manjaro or x11?
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[17:51:06] <manjaro-web|4421> X11 I believe.
[17:51:21] <m4sk1n> kritikk: it depends of DE I believe
[17:52:28] <bbgun7> it's x11 for kde, I know that. wayland is still sketchy when I tried it
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[17:54:26] <kritikk> I have KDE
[17:54:28] <kritikk> thanks
[17:55:36] <bbgun7> np
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[17:58:07] <inahd> it would be awesome if i could figure out how to use open drivers for this radeon 5 gpu...
[17:58:31] <inahd> installing with mhwd fails to boot properly
[18:00:58] <inahd> maybe i am doing something wrong though?
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[18:01:15] <hedgie> hmm.  when I installed the other day, there were two installer options, one of which was for non-free drivers
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[18:01:33] <hedgie> I'd assume that the other was for the open drivers
[18:02:42] <inahd> hedgie, was that addressed to me? im having wireless trouble also :(
[18:02:50] <hedgie> yeah, it was
[18:03:12] <hedgie> (I'm rather new to manjaro, so I don't know how much help I can be)
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[18:04:38] <inahd> i think i missed the first part
[18:05:23] <hedgie> when I put in the install medium, I got options for the normal live image/installer, one for non-free drivers, then one for the boot from hard disk
[18:05:54] <inahd> true
[18:06:11] <inahd> i guess i might try live, then
[18:06:23] <inahd> rather than fuxing with mhwd
[18:07:04] <inahd> excellent idea
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[18:08:26] <hedgie> I was having the opposite problem.  I moved to manjaro 'cos tumbleweed kept having problems with the proprietary nvidia drivers and I wanted it to be pain free.  so I made the switch
[18:09:01] <inahd> manjaro was so good to me for so long. now it has forsaken me
[18:10:59] <hedgie> I'm enjoying it so far, although there's a little pouting and sulking on my end for using something as a primary OS for the first time instead of just a secondary one
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[18:11:44] <inahd> oh yeah, well if basic graphics and wireless are working the rest should be easy enough
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[18:12:45] <inahd> i came to manjaro without any arch experience, and basically found the whole process very refreshing
[18:12:53] <hedgie> yeah.  assuming you can boot, the driver manager works pretty well
[18:14:12] <hedgie> just wish I knew why plasmashell was eating up one entire core by its lonesome
[18:16:03] <inahd> doesn't everyone?
[18:16:28] <inahd> to be fair, i am beginning to think my wireless problem is due to router config
[18:18:49] <hedgie> and this is why I only use wireless when I'm not at home (even the laptop is hardwired in when I'm here)
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[18:23:15] <inahd> i like to wander, even at home
[18:23:26] <inahd> but hardwiring is compelling
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[18:24:31] <hedgie> since I'm mostly on a desktop, there's really no drawback to doing it.  and it does make troubleshooting connectivity issues a little easier
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[18:43:56] <inahd> i think i may have bypassed the whole issue by manually seperating the bssid's and automatically connecting to the one i want
[18:44:02] <inahd> only time will tell
[18:44:19] <newuser> hey everyone. I'm a new to manjaro after switching from 2 years of using ubuntu. I have a clean install and have received a notification to install a new kernal. Should I do this?
[18:44:37] <inahd> probably?
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[18:45:04] <inahd> you can always switch kernels back at boot
[18:45:23] <hetii> Hello :)
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[18:45:37] <robin0800> newuser, no unless you have a problem
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[18:45:50] <newuser> I'm currenty on 4.4.39-1 and there are new newer kernels available (but the current kernal is the LTS)
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[18:46:02] <newuser> * 4 newer
[18:46:06] <hetii> So today is a day when I decide to drop ubuntu mate and test manjaro ... but as I see on download page, there is no version with mate/gnome ?
[18:46:11] <newuser> *kernel
[18:46:16] <robin0800> newuser, and also reccomended
[18:46:54] <newuser> So stick with the LTS version until a new LTS is out?
[18:47:06] <roch_> LTS is perfectly fine
[18:47:11] <inahd> robin0800, why would lts kernel be recommended, and yet manjaro recommend a new one?
[18:47:23] <robin0800> newuser, a bug
[18:47:37] <newuser> Yeah I'm also curious about that, since the notification said "please install"
[18:47:42] <newuser> oh a bug
[18:48:06] <inahd> is there any harm to play with them both? :D
[18:48:24] <inahd> i guess thats what gets me into trouble
[18:48:46] <newuser> yeah I want to play it safe with this new system because this is my first time using arch
[18:48:59] <newuser> and my terminal knowledge is limited
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[18:49:28] <inahd> newuser, what kind of hardware you working with?
[18:49:38] <robin0800> inahd, if you have very new H/W you might have to to get things to work
[18:49:50] <newuser> a dell laptop
[18:49:59] <newuser> everything works well as far as I can tell
[18:50:09] <inahd> if it aint broken...
[18:50:31] <inahd> (break it and then fix it and then profit)
[18:51:08] <newuser> What I'd really like to do is install the software I need and not mess with anything uness I absolutely need to
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[18:51:33] <inahd> newuser sounds like you should do that then
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[18:52:22] <newuser> does the pacman-manager have access to the AUR by defuault?
[18:52:26] <hedgie> and you always do get to pick at boot, so the risk is pretty low.  I've done that on previous systems with no more headache than a restart if it doesn't work
[18:52:40] <newuser> I'd like to install the arc theme
[18:52:42] <hedgie> newuser I have been using yaourt for aur
[18:52:50] <hedgie> (I'm lazy)
[18:53:01] <newuser> same difference?
[18:53:02] <inahd> i only use yaourt. don't really know why though.
[18:53:14] <roch_> it works
[18:53:53] <inahd> yeah thats probably why
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[18:55:29] <newuser> there are so many arc themes listed in the aur site. How do I know which is the actual theme
[18:56:05] <inahd> never really understood  the difference between yaourt and pacman, but the gui is confusing as hell
[18:57:12] <inahd> newuser, it looks like there are multiple arc themes
[18:57:33] <hedgie> who would have thought that linux has too many options? ;)
[18:58:22] <inahd> yaourt -Ss arc themes... seems there is maia and maia solid
[18:59:06] <robin0800> inahd, think they are in conflict not sure
[18:59:11] <inahd> uh oh
[18:59:28] <Jeannie> Neither yaourt nor pacman have a native ui
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[19:00:17] <inahd> the tree in octopi is too crazy for me
[19:01:17] <inahd> i really don't understand how it is easier than cli
[19:01:41] <hedgie> I'm used to the tree enough from other distros' guis.  but since I installed yaourt, been using that more even for the search functionality
[19:02:05] <robin0800> inahd, pamac is good IMHO
[19:02:12] <inahd> im used to the tree being... pruned nicely i guess.
[19:02:33] <Jeannie> pamac is gtk3, doesn't fit all DEs
[19:02:51] <robin0800> Jeannie, true
[19:02:53] * hedgie looks at cairo-dock sitting on plasmashell
[19:03:24] <Jeannie> There's octopi as fpackage management rontend for qt
[19:03:24] <inahd> how do i *do stuff in the 3rd person?
[19:03:34] <hedgie>  /me $text
[19:03:43] * Jeannie wonders what inahd is talking about
[19:03:45] * inahd $test
[19:03:48] <newuser> so to install a theme I just input yaourt -Ss snapshot URL?
[19:03:49] <inahd> hehe
[19:03:51] <inahd> cool
[19:03:59] <newuser> or yaourt -S snapshot URL?
[19:04:28] <hedgie> new, don't even need the url.  just yaourt $packagename
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[19:04:38] <newuser> ah ok
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[19:05:13] <Jeannie> yaourt packagename is sufficient
[19:05:30] <inahd> Jeannie, sufficient to what?
[19:05:33] <robin0800> newuser,  sudo pacman -U url
[19:05:38] <hedgie> search and install
[19:05:47] <inahd> both at the same time?
[19:05:48] <Jeannie> To list all packages related to packagename
[19:05:57] <newuser> what does the -U do robin0800
[19:06:29] <robin0800> newuser, installs from a url
[19:06:48] <inahd> would there be a concrete reason to choose either pacman or yaourt?
[19:07:09] <newuser> if I just include the package name and not the url, will it show search results of similarly named packaged
[19:07:12] <newuser> packages
[19:07:42] <Jeannie> pacman will not access the aur
[19:07:51] <hedgie> and give you the option to install any you want
[19:08:59] <inahd> oh. hmm
[19:09:54] <inahd> newuser, you can search for general terms, not just package names
[19:10:23] <newuser> this theme is says "unsupported package: potentially dangerous !" in the terminal
[19:10:28] <inahd> fun
[19:10:42] <inahd> it may be weaponized
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[19:10:53] <Jeannie> That happens with all aur packages
[19:10:56] <newuser> oh
[19:11:05] <newuser> since its not in the pacman repo?
[19:11:07] <hedgie> a sensible caution
[19:11:15] <newuser> which is "official"
[19:11:19] <Jeannie> Indeed, the aur is no official repo
[19:11:43] <hedgie> well, since skype comes from microsoft, maybe it was accurate in that case
[19:12:20] <newuser> what does "please add $visual to your environment variables" mean?
[19:12:21] <inahd> its often good to read the comments in those cases, for changes that may need be made ToeSnacks pkgbuild
[19:12:48] <inahd> ToeSnacks? whoops.
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[19:15:23] <newuser> it then says "for example: export VISUAL="vim" (in ~/.bashrc)
[19:16:04] <hedgie> oh, it's asking you to set an editor for looking at the pkgbuild file.  that bit can be safely ignored
[19:16:21] <newuser> so just press enter with no input
[19:16:29] <hedgie> that's what I've been doing
[19:16:44] <robin0800> newuser, export EDITOR=nano is better
[19:16:47] <inahd> if the build fails, you may eventually have to edit stuff
[19:17:02] <newuser> already pressed enter
[19:17:17] <newuser> but I will keep that in mind for the future
[19:17:35] <newuser> 0fb3da8060
[19:17:53] <inahd> often the comments will help you fix a problem, if there is a problem
[19:17:58] <newuser> ok
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[19:18:57] <robin0800> newuser, you can ignore them with a "n"
[19:19:22] <newuser> ok
[19:19:26] <newuser> looks like it worked
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[19:23:51] <inahd> another satisfied customer
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[19:31:53] <hetii> Is manjaro-net good choice for docker based server system ?
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[19:32:31] <hetii> or should I be more focused on things like coreOS or alpine ?
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[19:34:10] <mike-zal> does anyone know how to make usb sound adapter to work? I plugged it in and it doesn't work yet producer says it's "linux compatible"
[19:34:47] <inahd> oh hmm
[19:34:58] <hetii> mike-zal, well... this days probably most of sound card should be supported by kernel
[19:35:22] <inahd> lsusb finds it?
[19:35:48] <inahd> perhaps simply selecting in pavucontrol?
[19:38:12] <hedgie> hetii, to be honest, a rolling release would be the last thing I'd think of for a server
[19:38:20] <Jeannie> I'd look for it in alsamixer
[19:40:12] <hetii> hedgie, well I though that will be the main advantage :)
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[19:45:45] <hetii> hmm I see that manjaro don`t like unetbootin way of creating boot pendrive
[19:46:04] <hetii> boot process end on kernel panic
[19:46:14] <hetii> and is not able to mount root fs.
[19:46:41] <Jeannie> unetbootin will not work to create bootalbe manjaro isos on usb
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[19:47:29] <hetii> Jeannie, what about dd ?
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[19:48:04] <Jeannie> dd will work
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[19:48:40] <hetii> ok will try :)
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[19:49:22] <newuser> how do I check to see if a particular software is available in the pacman repo?
[19:49:52] <newuser> for example, I want to remove a few preinstalled applications and replace them with what I normally use
[19:50:21] <xangua> Which are?
[19:51:27] <newuser> spek, gmusicbrowser, calibre, keepassx, bitmask, and unetbootin
[19:52:00] <newuser> i'l probably want chrome too
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[19:57:20] <Jeannie> People really use google spyware voluntarily?
[19:58:27] <negen> I think the reason people use chrome is that it is the only webbrowser that works in some situations
[19:59:10] <negen> i keep firefox chromium chrome and qupzilla installed and will use chrome as a last result
[19:59:46] <negen> but many things i use just do not work in other browsers no matter what i try
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[20:03:15] <newuser> my external hdd won't mount
[20:03:22] <newuser> this wasn't an issue in ubuntu
[20:04:05] <robin0800> newuser, xfce?
[20:04:11] <newuser> yes
[20:05:23] <robin0800> newuser, use gnome-disk utility
[20:05:54] <newuser> It's not showing up in gparted either
[20:06:36] <xangua> I just read something about thunar not showing large external HDDs
[20:06:42] <newuser> it is large
[20:07:08] <newuser> how do I use gnome-disk utility to resolve this
[20:07:25] <xangua> I think I read it in #xfce
[20:07:32] <robin0800> newuser, install it
[20:07:53] <mike-zal> hetii: my sound card is not well supported by kernel. I mean, some intel driver works with it but barely. some functions are blocked in kernel because creative didn't provided code
[20:08:30] <newuser> sudo pacman -S gnome-disk utility?
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[20:09:12] <robin0800> gnome-disk-utility
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[20:09:45] <newuser> ok I have it
[20:10:51] <newuser> it doesn't show the external hdd though
[20:11:44] <robin0800> newuser, format and is it on and I assume its usb?
[20:12:05] <newuser> yeah usb
[20:12:15] <newuser> its on too
[20:12:36] <xangua> Maybe you should ask in #xfce
[20:12:40] <newuser> ok
[20:13:03] <robin0800> newuser, its format ?@
[20:13:15] <hetii> hmm net version have some installer ?
[20:14:18] <hetii> ahh nvm I got it
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[20:14:27] <rhg135> pacstrap is nice
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[20:15:45] <robin0800> newuser, try lsusb in a terminal
[20:16:55] <Jeannie> Thunar needs all kinds of addons  and custom actions to give you a  mosty full file manager  functionality
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[20:18:35] <rhg135> At that point you may as well use ranger then
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[20:20:25] <roch_> ranger is fantastic! :)
[20:20:37] <roch_> o/
[20:21:00] <roch_> rhg135, what version of ranger are U using now ? 1.8.0 ?
[20:21:31] <rhg135> Whatever is in stable, roch_
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[20:21:58] <roch_> type in ! ranger --version
[20:22:26] <rhg135> I'm not at my computer
[20:22:35] <roch_> k , ty ;-
[20:23:03] <roch_> 1.7.2-1 is in stable
[20:23:50] <roch_> 1.8.0 in AUR but I copied scope from github and is working correctly, guys in #ranger says 1.8.0 is 'broken' :)
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[20:31:53] <Jolt2bolt> hi
[20:32:01] <hetii> hmm odd, after installation process and reboot my SSD disk gone even in BIOS :/
[20:32:45] <newuser> yeah manjaro isn't recognizing any usb devices
[20:32:54] <rhg135> Loose connection?
[20:32:57] <newuser> even my flash drives
[20:33:04] <newuser> I don't think so
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[20:33:45] <rhg135> That happened once when I opened it and moved the connector on the motherboard
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[20:43:41] <hetii> hmm ok that`s not funny, what happend with my SSD :/
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[20:45:58] <rhg135> Really, probably a loose connection or a dead controller, hetii
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[20:46:36] <rhg135> Try moving the data cable to a different port
[20:46:37] <hetii> hmm I just run hardware detection tool and he sees it
[20:46:48] <rhg135> Weird them
[20:46:56] <rhg135> Then*
[20:47:07] <rhg135> The boys doesn't?
[20:47:13] <rhg135> BIOS*
[20:47:31] <hetii> I have no clue what manjaro installer could change on it to make it not recognized by bios
[20:48:15] <hetii> hmm
[20:49:01] <rhg135> Anyway so try reseating it
[20:49:09] <rhg135> Might work
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[20:49:30] <hetii> well I try it, its a board with soldered SATA socket so no wires etc.
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[20:50:02] <rhg135> Hmm
[20:51:13] <hetii> I just boot net  version from pendrive
[20:51:30] <hetii> and fdisk see all partitions created by installer
[20:52:16] <rhg135> Is your BIOS up to date? At this point it sounds like a BIOS bug
[20:52:54] <hetii> I need to check
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[20:56:29] <hetii> ok I have latest BIOS and before never had such issue like this.
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[21:05:07] <hetii> Q: in installation process installer ask me about type of hard drive GPT or standard one with MBR. How I should know that ?
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[21:26:45] <mike-zal> If someone knows alsa or pulseaudio I need to solve some hardware issue, I posted details on manjaro forum so you can check in: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-reroute-sound-to-usb-audio-device/15465
[21:26:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/D2UWW2] How to "reroute" sound to usb audio device? - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro
[21:27:15] <mike-zal> please chim in if you feel up to it ;), thanks! :D
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[21:44:40] <lodearit> hi;wht's the shortcut to move a window? in  a DE
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[22:43:49] <noraj>  /join #docker
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[23:25:14] <fvs> hi, on manjaro_i3, my boot time sucks, any suggestions: http://pastebin.com/6rqWYu0s
[23:25:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PkWcRB] 3min 23.131s updatedb.service      2min 30.118s man-db.service           31. - Pastebin.com
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[23:30:26] <peetaur> fvs: uninstall mlocate ....wtf :D
[23:30:45] <peetaur> mlocate is so obsolete, and surely should not be running on startup. that's just stupid.
[23:31:43] <peetaur> and for man-db.service, you'll have to look at the file to see what it is... normally m an db is just updated when you install packages that have man pages
[23:31:55] <peetaur> but I don't use systemd... it is painful.  and going to bed. good night.
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[23:34:47] <MrLawrence> Hello, for some reason I get errors about my locale not being set by some tools like 'sloccount'
[23:35:04] <MrLawrence> It says LANGUAGE = (unset) and LC_ALL = (unset) how can I fix this?
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[23:41:24] <Celmor> I'm trying to follow this arch chapter for switch keyboard layout, it kinda seems outdated/does not work, any help? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_Xorg#Switching_between_keyboard_layouts
[23:41:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4RaJ4p] Keyboard configuration in Xorg - ArchWiki
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[23:49:41] <manjaro-web|4040> I fell Manjaro slow
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[23:56:46] <ringos> :/
[23:58:22] <ringos> negen did it :)
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