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[00:10:48] <roch> yitzhakbg, nvidia ?
[00:11:33] <roch> CountryfiedLinux, it's perfectly ok, depends on point of view
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[00:14:10] <CountryfiedLinux> gonna take a nap
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[00:14:27] <roch> cya
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[00:22:10] <yitzhakbg> roch?
[00:23:00] <yitzhakbg> Did you ask me about nvidia? If so, no. My graphics is Intel
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[00:24:24] <yitzhakbg> How do I get <ctrl><alt><F1-6> to give me a prompt? Presently, do reaction
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[00:24:56] * roch googles ;)
[00:25:17] <PMunch> yitzhakbg, sure Fn lock is on?
[00:26:06] <yitzhakbg> Hey, never thought of that. How do you lock Fn?
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[00:29:36] <PMunch> Laptops and some desktop keyboards have a lock key so that they can use the keys for other things
[00:30:00] <PMunch> My keyboard for example has all sorts of hotkeys which I never use as the defaults and then a Fn-lock key
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[00:59:07] <yitzhakbg> Thanks for the pointer, roch. Works now
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[01:00:54] <roch> oh great :)
[01:01:23] <roch> anyone mounted google drive succesfullly with gvfs-google ?
[01:02:10] <roch> or should I just go strauight for ocaml-fuse
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[01:09:21] <yitzhakbg> Great question. I'de like to know how to install google drive in Linux
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[01:12:00] <roch> I try with gvfs now, ocaml-fuse is supposedly easier, but heavier on dependencies ;)
[01:12:55] <dot_mf> How often are community packages updated? The current version is way outdated.
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[01:13:39] <dot_mf> The current version of Corebird, that is.
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[01:42:51] <thecrowlife> Hello!
[01:43:02] <roch> Hi!
[01:43:24] <thecrowlife> question, the ATI/AMD i have onboard and ATI HD 7800 they cant work with one other as in dual?
[01:43:26] <roch> everyone froze to death
[01:43:32] <thecrowlife> yes
[01:43:40] <thecrowlife> i may have to use warm powers on them
[01:43:45] <thecrowlife> heat them up :D
[01:44:03] <roch> not far from here, 80 km , -40°C :o
[01:44:12] <thecrowlife> in fact this is the first time using AUR :D
[01:44:26] <thecrowlife> more a deb. type haha and rpm :D
[01:44:40] <roch> just use yaourt
[01:44:47] <thecrowlife> it's like 9 -f here
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[01:44:56] <thecrowlife> very cold and colder and snow :|
[01:45:06] <roch> snow froze to death
[01:45:15] <thecrowlife> well idk much about aur, and it commands yet
[01:45:20] <thecrowlife> still learning
[01:45:27] <roch> what commands ? :D
[01:45:32] <thecrowlife> atm, i had a issue installing ati drivers it seems
[01:45:47] <roch> U can do it!
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[01:45:51] <nicholasf> hrm, that manjaro installer has hung on my machine
[01:46:06] <thecrowlife> :D
[01:46:06] <nicholasf> booted in via usb, chose to start Manjaro Linux
[01:46:16] <nicholasf> it's just blinking its cursor after 5 minutes
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[01:46:33] <thecrowlife> @nicholasf worked for me on usb
[01:46:47] <roch> nicholasf, hope U using latest version and and that thing called after sea creatures
[01:46:50] <nicholasf> I imagine it works for most people thecrowlife
[01:46:54] <thecrowlife> took like 10 secs, to boot up in live usb mode
[01:47:06] <thecrowlife> how did u copy the files?
[01:47:06] <nicholasf> yeh, Ive done this b efore with other distros many times
[01:47:08] <nicholasf> wondering what is wrong
[01:47:11] <nicholasf> Im not that far in
[01:47:30] <thecrowlife> ah
[01:47:33] <nicholasf> ill try again
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[01:47:55] <nicholasf> I just restarted it and saw an error mentioned about the file system before it rrebooted
[01:48:13] <thecrowlife> hmm
[01:48:44] <roch> corrupt media ?
[01:48:52] <nicholasf> yeh that's all it was
[01:49:09] <roch> run self affirmatiopn test on boot
[01:49:16] <nicholasf> hrm, no, back to basics again
[01:49:19] <nicholasf> blinking cursor
[01:49:37] <nicholasf> my hardware is very new
[01:49:48] <roch> soak Your usb pendrive is warm milk for 10 minutes ;d
[01:50:22] <roch> no wonder nasa sent 486 into space
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[01:51:39] <thecrowlife> Lol @roch
[01:51:48] <thecrowlife> i was one of them NASA guys lmao
[01:51:54] <thecrowlife> now working for NSA lmfao
[01:52:44] <roch> don't have some working space approved hardware to boot manjaro off ?:)
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[01:54:23] <needhelppppp> Hi Everyone, I need some help... every 5 minutes I am getting "wired connection deactivated" notification then it establishes again but it is a little bit annoying.
[01:54:57] <needhelppppp> how can I fix it? dhcpcd is disabled
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[01:55:14] <needhelppppp> so I have no idea what could be causing it... cable is fine and router has no issues
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[02:03:21] <thecrowlife> Uhhhhhh
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[02:18:46] <Manj-811-Xfce> halo
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[02:26:46] <thecrowlife> hmm
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[02:31:23] <Manj-811-Xfce> just install manjaro on hp mini
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[02:36:24] <manjaro-web|4030> bonsoir
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[02:38:55] <roch> lol I give up , will settle on google chrome drag and drop bulshit , gn
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[02:51:41] <Manj-811-Xfce> sefi amath vroh
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[03:00:48] <thecrowlife> blah
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[03:51:41] <manjaro-web|3434> hi everyone!
[03:52:38] <manjaro-web|3434> install ubunto and mi grub crash
[03:52:56] <manjaro-web|3434> how can i fixit?
[03:53:39] <manjaro-web|3434> at this moment i'm re-install de OS
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[05:52:35] <ozzeeransky> Hi
[05:53:45] <ozzeeransky> I need some help. I trying to connect to L2TP. I installed networkmanager-l2tp from yaourt, created connection, but it doesn't working.
[05:54:22] <ozzeeransky> How to solve this problem? What logs need?
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[05:55:38] <thecrowlife> okay the ati sapphire HD 7850 will that run on this os with catalyst drivers ?
[05:55:45] <thecrowlife> or they are still working on that?
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[05:59:59] <thecrowlife> hmm
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[06:03:23] <ozzeeransky> Is there anybody online?
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[06:17:21] <thecrowlife> nope
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[06:42:47] <Vlado9A> good morning
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[06:56:06] <thecrowlife> sup
[06:56:38] <thecrowlife> Kernel headers folders?
[06:56:59] <thecrowlife> vmware can't even find the 4.8.15 folder lmao
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[08:42:31] <Jeannie> Damned, I need a nw music player
[08:42:52] <Strit_Laptop> Jeannie: what are you using now? :)
[08:43:08] <Jeannie> Guayadeque
[08:43:33] <Strit_Laptop> I find Audacious to be pretty lightweight and does the job I need it to. :)
[08:43:57] <Jeannie> Which toolkit does it use?
[08:44:08] <Jeannie> GTK2/3? QT4/5?
[08:44:29] <Strit_Laptop> I use Audacious-qt5 from AUR. Else I think it's gtk2.
[08:44:43] <Strit_Laptop> Yep, gtk2
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[08:44:55] <Jeannie> I'd love to keep Guayadeque, but the newest version has switched to GTK3, so it's unusable for me now
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[08:45:58] <Squidman420> hey all
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[08:51:01] <Jeannie> Seems the adacious plugins are missing for the QT5 version
[08:51:33] <Jeannie> No, I seem not to be able to read properly....
[08:51:43] <japonecka> Hello everyone, since yesterday Veracrypt on Manjaro 16.10 I am getting an error "veracrypt failed to save loop device"
[08:52:07] <Strit_Laptop> Jeannie: yeah, they are also there. :)
[08:52:34] <Jeannie> Audacious requires jack?
[08:52:44] <japonecka> I tried to find some quick solution and figured out that this problem happened even with Truecrypt, however the solution suggested seens odd, because I should edit /etc/modules-load.d/truecrypt.conf but no such file exists for me
[08:52:51] <Strit_Laptop> The plugins does, I think.
[08:53:05] <Jeannie> I hate having jack installed
[08:53:27] <Jeannie> So Audacious is not my cup of coffee
[08:53:33] <Strit_Laptop> It uses jack2 actually. :)
[08:53:54] <Jeannie> Jack, Jack2. I don't want any of them
[08:54:04] <Strit_Laptop> Fair enough.
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[08:54:31] <Jeannie> Jack2 fubared more than one system for me
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[08:55:15] <Squidman420> Could someone link me a guide for installing non-free intel wifi drivers?
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[08:55:29] <Squidman420> I can't seem to figure out how to get it working
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[08:56:46] <Squidman420> according to lspci I have an Interl Corp Centrino Advanced-N 6200 and the driver in use is iwlwifi
[08:57:00] * Jeannie curses in foreign tounges about GTK3
[08:57:15] <Squidman420> Intel*
[08:59:12] <d42> but it's free and open :_DDD
[08:59:34] <cor1u1m> spotify doesn't work, once logged in, the app disapper
[09:02:13] <Strit_Laptop> Squidman420: there is no non-free drivers for Intel cards.
[09:02:28] <Strit_Laptop> cor1u1m: Spotify is an AUR application.
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[09:04:40] <cor1u1m> Strit_Laptop: I know, I installed it with yaourt, was on a previous install working perfectly but now seems to be buggie
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[09:05:20] <Strit_Laptop> cor1u1m: yeah, you should check the AUR page for the app, maybe someone in the comments found a solution.
[09:06:01] <Jeannie> Which DE are you using, cor1u1m ?
[09:06:15] <cor1u1m> KDE
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[09:06:35] <cor1u1m> Strit_Laptop: yep you are right, I completely didn't thought about it silly me
[09:06:39] <Jeannie> Strange. Spotify works well for me under Plasma5
[09:07:10] <Strit_Laptop> I noticed the newest comment mentions something about a crash if your password has special characters.
[09:07:37] <day|flip> why not test spotify on the terminal see if it post any errors as such
[09:08:21] <cor1u1m> Strit_Laptop: yep, the issue is documented
[09:08:35] <thid> sup all
[09:08:52] <Jeannie> What?
[09:08:53] <cor1u1m> Jeannie: don't proceed to the update then, because it's the new update that creates this login issue
[09:09:17] <Jeannie> Running spotify 1.0.45.186-1 here
[09:10:19] <cor1u1m> Jeannie: it's the last one... well, will have to search!
[09:13:11] <day|flip> will you can used spotify on the web browser
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[10:05:32] <Nizumzen> newbie to manjaro here - if a package is available on Arch will it also be available on manjaro? I'm not talking about the AUR but the main repos in Arch
[10:05:52] <Nizumzen> there doesn't seem to be a list of packages on the manjaro website
[10:06:02] <Nizumzen> searchable list*
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[10:07:40] <japonecka> Hello everyone, since yesterday Veracrypt on Manjaro 16.10 I am getting an error "veracrypt failed to save loop device"
[10:08:05] <thid> Nizumzen: coz its same list as arch have
[10:08:21] <Nizumzen> thid: cool thanks - that is all I needed to know :)
[10:09:08]
<Botergos> [https://is.gd/nljFHT] [SOLVED] Truecrypt - failed to set up a loop device / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums
[10:09:28] <Jeannie> It is? Always thought Manjaro uses own repos?
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[10:10:05] <japonecka> thid: thank you, however the solution suggested seens odd, because I should edit /etc/modules-load.d/truecrypt.conf but no such file exists for me
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[10:13:43] <Strit_Laptop> Nizumzen: Some packages might be vlack listed because of compatibility.
[10:14:07] <Strit_Laptop> s/vlack/black
[10:14:24] <Strit_Laptop> So it all depends on what package it is.
[10:14:42] <Nizumzen> ah I see - thanks - most of things I want to install are python based things which I doubt will have much compatibility issues
[10:14:57] <Nizumzen> python programming is the main use I have for linux
[10:16:46] <Strit_Laptop> Watch out with Python these days!
[10:17:04] <Strit_Laptop> Python just got updated in Arch to 3.6, and manjaro is still on 3.5.
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[10:17:25] <Strit_Laptop> Python 3.6 is getting tested in Unstable branch atm.
[10:17:55] <peetaur2> Nizumzen: if not, you either don't need it (like some libgl thing which manjaro merged or split or whatever), or you can just build it from AUR or the official arch PKGBUILD
[10:18:47] <Nizumzen> Strit_Laptop: ok - I can wait for Python 3.6 to go through testing - I don't need it instantly
[10:18:48] <Strit_Laptop> Most python related stuff is in the Manjaro repo's.
[10:19:18] <Strit_Laptop> As far as I know, only a couple of packages are blacklisted from Arch, like downgrade and steam.
[10:19:21] <Nizumzen> peetaur2: yeah sounds like most of the important stuff is there - most of my needs are pretty main stream just basic programming stuff
[10:19:28] <Strit_Laptop> Because manjaro has their own of those.
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[10:25:23] <Nizumzen> I was quite impressed that manjaro worked perfectly out of the box in vmware workstation pro 12.5
[10:25:32] <Nizumzen> made my life easier
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[10:45:59] <Strit_Laptop> It's not possible to revoke a gpg key, without the secret key is it?
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[12:38:10] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning
[12:39:13] <vicdzrz> Hello! I am building a custom Live-CD using manjaro-tools and build ISO. I am modifying the profile community/budgie and adding some packages at Packages-Budgie, then compiling with buildiso -p budgie and running the ISO in virtualbox. Some packages that I add are breaking the bootup of the Live-CD, which gives the error "modprobe: FATAL: module loop not found" and then "ERROR: unable to find boot device". The default build works as expected, and with
[12:39:13] <vicdzrz> only a few extra package also work. I could check every single package to see which one breaks the bootup, but each compilation takes about 1 hour, so this is not feasible. Any idea on how to find the problem?
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[12:51:39] <thid> vicdzrz: read the error
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[12:52:52] <thid> modprobe: FATAL: module loop
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[12:53:17] <thid> ur adding something that require loop but u don't provide loop
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[12:54:39] <d03> manjaro net install not yet update?
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[12:54:49] <d03> I mean file iso
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[12:57:44] <thid> d03: nope xD
[12:58:06] <vicdzrz> thid thanks, i will try adding that package. I thought that buildiso installed also the required dependencies from the repos.
[12:58:15] <thid> netinstall is SSOOO old it doesn't even support f2fs
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[12:59:12] <thid> even uefi is still fk'ed up and with efivars it still can't proper add to list
[12:59:35] <thid> srsly someone need to fix that
[12:59:44] <thid> netinstall should get full remake
[13:00:28] <d03> thid: netinstall can full customize, I like it
[13:00:28] <d03> yes, efivars very sk'ed
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[13:01:17] <thid> d03: I also like it an use it, but doesn't change a fact that netinstall require some heavy polishing
[13:01:20] <d03> are you tried manjaro netinstall?
[13:01:47] <thid> d03: yep :)
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[13:04:12] <d03> hmm... efi still have problem
[13:04:13] <d03> hmm... efi still have problem
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[13:45:02] <thid> CountryfiedLinux: nice find
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[13:51:45] <Jeannie> yaourt buuf
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[13:54:12] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm switching from Nouveau to a binary driver. Wish me luck!
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[13:54:43] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't know if buuf is in the AUR. Probably is.
[13:54:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I like that clay cartoon looking icon set.
[13:55:02] <Jeannie> Didn't you once say that intel graphics are best?
[13:55:09] <CountryfiedLinux> I never said that.
[13:55:14] <Jeannie> I see
[13:55:36] <CountryfiedLinux> I have dual-graphics on here.
[13:55:42] <Jeannie> Seems you have either a problem with remembering things or with your credibility
[13:55:52] <CountryfiedLinux> Seems you like to lie.
[13:55:53] <day|flip> i find nvidia easy to deal with compare to the life of intel gpu
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[13:58:48] <thid> I always say that intel gpu are the best
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[14:00:57] <Jeannie> If there only were intel gpus...
[14:01:18] <CountryfiedLinux> dual graphics working fine so far.
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[14:01:38] <thid> I need to backup somehow 800GB qcow2 -_-
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[14:03:55] <CountryfiedLinux> It's funny Ubuntu seems to scale my 1080p laptop screen better than Windows 10 does. Modern UI apps aside of course but I hardly use any of those anyway.
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[14:05:44] <vicdzrz> thid : i built the ISO with util-linux, same error
[14:07:42] <thid> vicdzrz: with loop ?
[14:08:00] <vicdzrz> yep
[14:09:07] <thid> sucks
[14:09:29] <thid> try to find out what package gives u problem
[14:10:53]
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[14:12:57] <vicdzrz> still i dont understand why any of those would break the bootloader
[14:12:59] <manjaro> hello everyone, sorry for bothering, I'm quite new to HexChat
[14:13:11] <thid> arm ?
[14:13:14] <manjaro> but I'd have a NVidia related question
[14:13:22] <manjaro> if anyone of you could help me
[14:13:45] <day|flip> what maybe be wrong?
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[14:14:14] <manjaro> I have just reinstalled Manjaro XFCE 16.10.3
[14:14:15] <thid> vicdzrz: virtualbox remove that and see
[14:14:28] <manjaro> after breaking the system with fiddling with drivers
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[14:15:17] <manjaro> I would like simply to use my NVidia card, but for some unknown reason it just doesn't work after following the steps described on Manjaro Wiki
[14:15:26] <vicdzrz> thid i'm on it, just wait another hour for the results :D
[14:15:50] <day|flip> manjaro: is this a laptop?
[14:16:31] <manjaro> yep. lenovo 80QQ equipped with i3-5005U, intel broadwell / nvidia 920M hybrid
[14:16:52] <batch> hey can someone show me output of "ls -lah /srv/" please?
[14:17:08] <day|flip> so your just want nvidia to run over intel right?
[14:17:13] <batch> i'm curious if ftp dir and http dir have different permissions
[14:17:28] <manjaro> day|flip: quite simply, yes.
[14:17:57] <day|flip> manjaro ok. just get your terminal out
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[14:18:08] <day|flip> let me know if your ready
[14:18:11] <manjaro> day|flip: optirun 'xyz' just doesn't work for me, nvidia module doesn't even load, as dmesg tells me.
[14:18:33] <day|flip> mhwd -li
[14:18:43] <day|flip> just tell me what driver are install
[14:19:10] <manjaro> day|flip, please give me 1 min, to reboot my computer, I'll be back as 'nt'
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[14:20:09] <tianlan> hello I am looking at a live version of manjaro and quiet like it.
[14:20:45] <tianlan> The laptop has efi. can i just install manjaro?
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[14:21:16] <nt_> day|flip, I'm back, thanks for your patience
[14:21:25] <day|flip> mhwd -li
[14:21:27] <day|flip> just tell me what driver are install
[14:21:48] <tianlan> oh, that I don't understand
[14:21:48] <nt_> video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee
[14:21:59] <day|flip> that all?
[14:22:04] <nt_> currently, yes
[14:22:16] <nt_> previously it was video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee
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[14:22:40] <nt_> but since nvidia module didn't load, i removed it and reinstalled nouveau
[14:23:16] <day|flip> sudo mhwd -r pci video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee; sudo mhwd -i pci video-nvidia
[14:23:34] <day|flip> maybe just normal nvidia driver will work this time
[14:24:35] <nt_> day|flip, might as well. thanks, I'm doing pacman-mirrors -g, after that I install the new driver, reboot, then coming back, thanks a lot
[14:24:51] <day|flip> no problem
[14:25:46] <nt_> day|flip, forgot to tell I'm doing a system update, it might take 5 mins total. brb
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[14:27:40] <Jeannie> "Normal" Nvidia drivers will not work on hybrid systems, they will only give you a black screen during login
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[14:30:41] <nt_> Jeannie, what should I do then?
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[14:31:29] <nt_> Jeannie, it does even with driver 'video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee', can't figure it out why
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[14:32:57] <nt_> day|flip, should I only install proprietary nvidia drivers, with no --setxorg and --setgl, just reboot after then
[14:32:58] <nt_> ?
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[14:33:54] <day|flip> sudo mhwd-gpu --setgl nvidia
[14:34:14] <day|flip> i don't think xorg will be needed so much
[14:34:29] <nt_> and sudo mkinitcpio -p linux44? (currently it's kernel 4.4)
[14:34:42] <day|flip> not really
[14:34:56] <day|flip> you can if you want
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[14:41:24] <nt_> day|flip, I'm back
[14:41:26] <day|flip> did that work?
[14:41:33] <nt_> same blackout, it didn't load
[14:41:48] <nt_> here's the messages I got
[14:42:07] <nt_> dmesg | grep nvidia
[14:42:17] <nt_> [ 1.503142] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[14:42:18] <nt_> [ 1.514727] nvidia 0000:04:00.0: enabling device (0106 -> 0107)
[14:42:18] <nt_> [ 1.514968] nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized, major device number 249
[14:42:18] <nt_> [ 1.727110] nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms 375.26 Thu Dec 8 18:04:14 PST 2016
[14:42:18] <nt_> [ 2.846706] [drm] [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000400] Loading driver
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[14:42:34] <nt_> inxi -G
[14:42:36] <nt_> [1;34mGraphics: [0;37m [1;34mCard-1:[0;37m Intel HD Graphics 5500[0;37m
[14:42:36] <nt_> [1;34m [0;37m [1;34mCard-2:[0;37m NVIDIA GK208M [GeForce 920M][0;37m
[14:42:36] <nt_> [1;34m [0;37m [1;34mDisplay Server:[0;37m X.org 1.18.4 [1;34mdriver:[0;37m nvidia [1;34mtty size:[0;37m 170x48 [1;34mAdvanced Data:[0;37m N/A for root out of X[0;37m
[14:42:36] <nt_> [0m
[14:42:55] <nt_> mhwd -li
[14:42:56] <nt_> [1m[31m> [mInstalled PCI configs:
[14:42:56] <nt_> NAME VERSION FREEDRIVER TYPE
[14:42:57] <nt_> video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee 2016.01.28 true PCI
[14:42:59] <nt_> [1m[31mWarning: [mNo installed USB configs!
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[14:43:24] <nt_> reinstalled hybrid-nouveau
[14:43:45] <day|flip> so it not letting you vidia
[14:43:48] <day|flip> nvidia
[14:43:54] <nt_> just as mentioned above :)
[14:43:56] <day|flip> that weird
[14:44:42] <day|flip> manjaro did something. mhwd. you were used to uninstall the hybrid and just install one driver
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[14:45:09] <nt_> day|flip, previously I used Linux Mint 17.3 xfce, but I hated to use the ancient 3.19 kernel, particularly because my notebook is equipped with realtek RTL8723BE wireless card, and the old kernel does not use it properly.
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[14:45:42] <nt_> day|flip, I did uninstall hybrid and installed nvidia as you suggested
[14:45:58] <nt_> after reboot, that blackout came
[14:46:01] <batch> if nvidia fails it can be
[14:46:12] <batch> that nouveau is still in mkinitcpio hooks
[14:46:24] <day|flip> it getting way past my time to say up any longer. if no one else is able to help you out here. you could make a post asking why you can just installed nvidia when the hybrid module not working for you
[14:46:33] <nt_> had to ctrl+alt+f2 into tty2 to remove the faulty driver
[14:46:36] <day|flip> stay up***
[14:46:44] <Jeannie> That's what I told you, black screen
[14:46:48] <nt_> you mean to manjaro forums?
[14:46:53] <day|flip> ya
[14:46:57] <day|flip> i need sleep
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[14:47:11] <nt_> day|flip, okay, thanks for helping, good night
[14:47:37] <nt_> Jeannie, I asked previously, perhaps my message didn't get through, what should I do then?
[14:47:39] <day|flip> Jeannie: you can help him. other wise fourm will be his last hope
[14:47:49] <day|flip> forum
[14:47:53] <day|flip> w/e i need sleep
[14:48:00] <batch> which is currently installed?
[14:48:02] <day|flip> good night
[14:48:06] <thid> so guys, I got here everything on ubuntu or debian, u think its worth making one pc with arch or stick with other stuffs ?
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[14:58:37] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning
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[15:00:48] <nt_> batch, if you mean, currently it's video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee again.
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[15:06:05] <batch> nt_ can you do "cat /etc/mkinitcpio.conf" and tell me if it has MODULES="" or MODULES="nouveau"
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[15:07:09] <nt_> batch | nope, it does not. should I insert it?
[15:07:11] <vicdzrz> thid about to test without VB, wish me luck :D
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[15:07:52] <vicdzrz> yep, that was it
[15:08:05] <vicdzrz> why the hell does vb break the bootloader of a livecd?
[15:08:06] <batch> nt_ yes make it like MODULES="nouveau"
[15:08:13] <batch> put nouveau in there
[15:08:41] <nt_> batch | thanks, inserting it. rebooting, brb 1 min.
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[15:09:47] <batch> nono
[15:09:56] <batch> or maybe yes
[15:09:57] <batch> :p
[15:09:59] <vicdzrz> XDD
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[15:10:06] <vicdzrz> we will see if he comes back
[15:10:34] <batch> yeah :p
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[15:11:30] <nt_> batch | back, still using intel driver
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[15:11:55] <batch> oke can you open the file again nt_
[15:12:03] <nt_> glxinfo | grep OpenGL outputs: OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
[15:12:03] <nt_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
[15:12:03] <nt_> OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 13.0.2
[15:12:03] <nt_> OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.50
[15:12:03] <nt_> OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
[15:12:04] <nt_> OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
[15:12:06] <nt_> OpenGL core profile extensions:
[15:12:08] <nt_> OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2
[15:12:09] <batch> ..
[15:12:10] <nt_> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
[15:12:12] <nt_> OpenGL context flags: (none)
[15:12:14] <nt_> OpenGL extensions:
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[15:12:16] <nt_> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.1 Mesa 13.0.2
[15:12:18] <nt_> OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.10
[15:12:20] <nt_> OpenGL ES profile extensions:
[15:12:20] <batch> please use pastebin nt_
[15:12:48] <batch> oke nt_ you here?
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[15:13:21] <nt_> batch | yeah, using pastebin now, sorry. it reads "nouveau" in mkinitcpio.conf
[15:13:29] <batch> ok so
[15:13:37] <batch> what kernel do you have nt_
[15:13:47] <nt_> batch, 4.4 currently
[15:13:49] <batch> oke
[15:14:09] <batch> do: sudo mkinitcpio -P linux44
[15:14:52] <nt_> batch | done, should I reboot?
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[15:15:08] <batch> wait nt_
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[15:15:50] <batch> ok nt_ now try reboot
[15:16:24] <nt_> batch | okay, brb 1 min, thx
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[15:18:44] <nt_> batch | back, still using 'intel'
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/Xe8w4q] System: Host: lenovo Kernel: 4.4.39-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.2.1) - Pastebin.com
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[15:23:04] <manjaro> Would you say that Manjaro XFCE is the best option to choose from if i'm looking for a lightweigt version of Manjaro but don't want to run i3? (I want apps to open quickly and firefox to run as smooth as possible)
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[15:24:48] <batch> what hardware do you have manjaro
[15:25:26] <manjaro> batch: hi, i run a Acer Aspire One 722 (amd dual core C60, 4 gb ram)
[15:25:37] <manjaro> ssd hard drive
[15:26:08] <batch> well yes i'd recommend xfce for sure
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[15:26:29] <batch> i run xfce on all my devices but with an ssd it's really fast
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[15:28:22] <manjaro> batch: thanks!
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[15:51:03] <M-DzzzzzzR> Anyone can recommend a cheap chromebook to run manjaro?
[15:53:10] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Look on google M-DzzzzzzR
[15:53:31] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Plenty of cheap laptops there
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[15:55:50] <M-DzzzzzzR> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: a not-so-tech friend wants a cheap box with good battery life & big screen. I thought a new chromebook & put manjaro on it...
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[15:56:53] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> And budget?
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[15:58:17] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> M-DzzzzzzR I can look if I can find something
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[16:05:56] <M-DzzzzzzR> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: I gotta go AFK for a couple hours . The Debian & arch wikis have a fair bit of info but was hoping someone might have some first hand knowledge. Or know a channel I could find people? Ill be back later...
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[20:18:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Something strange happened.
[20:19:40] <NanoSector> okay
[20:19:41] <CountryfiedLinux> After putting in the SSD I bought I can no longer get the other SSD to boot up. I guess I'll buy a matching SSD so I can use 2 of them.
[20:20:13] <CountryfiedLinux> Guess I'd better get used to using Kdenlive for a while. :P
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[20:42:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I think I'll just keep my laptop display at 1366x768 instead of 1080p with scaling.
[20:43:04] <CountryfiedLinux> It's a pain setting everything up for it.
[20:45:23] <CountryfiedLinux> And decided to hide news and images on Bing homepage. It's very... non-biased.
[20:45:45] <CountryfiedLinux> I meant very biased.
[20:45:53] <CountryfiedLinux> I prefer nonbiased news.
[20:47:34] <negen> It seems that ck did some major updates again
[20:48:20] <CountryfiedLinux> ck?
[20:48:21] <negen> CountryfiedLinux, did you try a laptop with a nvme m.2 ssd yet ?
[20:48:42] <negen> that con konvis guy or what ever
[20:48:44] <negen> linux-ck
[20:48:55] <negen> high performance kernel thingies
[20:51:27] <CountryfiedLinux> oh ok
[20:51:59] <negen> I got a new laptop on the way CountryfiedLinux
[20:52:07] <CountryfiedLinux> cool negen
[20:52:15] <negen> I also bought a nvme ssd for it
[20:52:32] <negen> the brand is my digital ssd
[20:52:40] <negen> but they are very open
[20:52:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Funny my new SSD works fine, but after buying the new SSD and using it, the other one doesn't boot up. And after, it won't even fit in there. I tried using force, a bit too much perhaps.
[20:52:55] <negen> and very fast and budget minded
[20:53:15] <CountryfiedLinux> I'll just buy a second SSD, another just like this one.
[20:53:30] <CountryfiedLinux> I have a Kingston.
[20:53:36] <CountryfiedLinux> One of the cheapest and most reliable.
[20:53:38] <negen> does your laptop have a m.2 pci slot ?
[20:53:44] <negen> pny are great
[20:53:56] <negen> i like pny ssd's for standard type of ssd
[20:54:03] <CountryfiedLinux> I dunno negen all I know is it came with the laptop but now can't fit into it properly. At first did but wouldn't boot.
[20:54:25] <negen> try testing outside the laptop
[20:54:26] <CountryfiedLinux> It also came with ribber linings for the left and right side. Wouldn't fit into it all the way with them on after removing though.
[20:54:52] <CountryfiedLinux> The SSD works fine, just can't get it to go into the laptop anymore. I'll just get another one identical to what is now inside.
[20:55:21] <negen> remind me to never become a manager
[20:56:08] <negen> m.2 is about the only thing that has been innovated in computers in the last 10 years or so
[20:57:53] <negen> I shaved my head CountryfiedLinux you wont recognize me anymore
[20:58:12] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, Oh, ok.
[20:59:03] <negen> my wife kicked her mom and sisters out
[20:59:08] <negen> because of me
[20:59:40] <negen> kinda feel bad but they are strange people
[20:59:48] <negen> see i work 5pm till 3am
[20:59:58] <negen> i started a online college in dec
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[21:00:25] <CountryfiedLinux> I think I'd normally prefer 10 hour workdays and less days a week to work.
[21:00:27] <negen> i study when i come home for few hrs before i have to get my kid ready for school
[21:00:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Except my back is hurt right now and after about 6 hours I start to hurt a lot more and look forward to getting out.
[21:01:29] <CountryfiedLinux> I need to have a talk with HR and explain to them that 16.5 hours in a shift and coming back that night to work isn't reasonable for my current condition.
[21:01:36] <CountryfiedLinux> I hate having to call out.
[21:02:06] <negen> well day the mean sister woke up and her 2 yr kid was making lots of noise when i was trying to study mind you have i hearing issues so high frequency sounds i do not hear that well but the lower tones seem quite loud to me and drowned out the other sounds too easily
[21:03:20] <negen> i have good speakers connected to a nice DAC so I can hear the recorded lectures at lower volumes so that I do not wake up my wife since i have to wake her up at 445am for her to get ready for work
[21:04:41] <negen> well the kid was being loud and then the mean sister was being loud i just stopped studies and went to bed i told my wife in the morning about it my wife then asked her sister if she could be more quiet in the mornings so i can study without having to increase the volume of the speakers since too loud will wake up the other people in the house
[21:05:10] <negen> well the girl blew up and called me a liar and what not then my wife freaked out
[21:05:14] <negen> big fight
[21:05:26] <negen> kicked them out
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[21:12:06] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, Did you lie?
[21:14:40] <negen> nope
[21:15:16] <negen> they made noise i could not hear the lecture only thing that wife asked was for them to keep a bit quite in the mornings so i can study
[21:15:29] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, So she's basically a bitch that bitched out then got kicked out. Based on what you're saying.
[21:15:34] <negen> big fight wife kicked them out
[21:16:30] <negen> well she is very stubborn about her kids and my wife asked "can you keep your kid a bit more quite" and since it was the kid is why the sister got so mad
[21:16:45] <negen> because in the sisters eyes her kids can never do wrong
[21:16:56] <negen> even when they do wrong
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[21:18:51] <negen> but they are vietnamese and my wife is older and the sister is a guest in our house staying here while she has her house rehabbed
[21:19:33] <negen> and beings how my wife is the older there is some sort of extra respect that is supposed to be there with the older siblings
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[21:20:38] <negen> and beings how the sister didn't just say something like "ok sure he needs to study we will try to be more quiet" she chose to fight about it and that set my wife off and she blew up
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[21:21:14] <negen> i guess it means my wife loves me if she kicks out her sister and mom in defense of me
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[21:24:21] <M-DzzzzzzR> Anybody know about Chromebooks on Manjaro or a channel for Linux Chromebooks?
[21:25:26] <negen> it can be done M-DzzzzzzR
[21:25:43] <negen> acer seems to be the best choice i suspect
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[21:27:17] <negen> what kind of cpu do you have M-DzzzzzzR ?
[21:27:51] <negen> if it is the intel cpu then you can use the normal manjaro iso after you unlock the boot loader or what ever locks they impose
[21:28:01] <negen> arm may be a bit of a trick
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/QRIPqO] How do i put manjaro on a chromebook? - Newbie Corner - Manjaro
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[21:41:56] <remos> Hi y'all! I wonder if there is an easy answer before creating a forum post somwhere. I've got nvidia proprietary drivers installed with bumblebee, it works, but after some time it does'nt work anymore (cannot access secondary gpu), optirun or primusrun, nothing. After restart it works again. Strange. Any suggestions?
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[22:09:44] <Nytram> Hi everyone. I've had a complete re-install of all O/S's on my system and am having problems updating manjaro in the terminal. I get a Qt5-base conflict with qtchooser and no matter what I choose it fails and won't go any further. Any ideas please?
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[22:16:05] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Nytram: which DE or WM
[22:17:18] <Nytram> KDE
[22:17:36] <Nytram> I'm going to try removing qtchooser and see if that does it.
[22:18:06] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I think base includes chooser
[22:18:14] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Not sure tho
[22:18:25] <live090> How big of a USB stick do i need in order to install Manjaro XFCE onto a usb stick?
[22:19:01] <Nytram> Didn't work. No matter what I choose it fails with unresolved package conflicts.
[22:19:18] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: 8GiB
[22:20:08] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Nytram: you do you update -Syu or -Syyu
[22:20:26] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: but more is ofcourse beter
[22:20:39] <Nytram> both have the same result
[22:22:26] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> And in pacman.conf which repos you have
[22:22:28] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: Okey great, although i tried to install it but i never showed up as a hard drive during the installation ..
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[22:23:37] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: I am sorry what is the probleem
[22:23:58] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: can't you install it or doesn't it show up
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[22:26:33] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: When i tried to install it onto a usb stick 8 gb it never showed up as a drive that i could make the installation onto :/
[22:26:47] <live090> But i will try one more time
[22:27:26] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I thought you needed to boot in the USB
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[22:28:00] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Because I just another drive you can boot in
[22:28:07] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> It
[22:28:23] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> S
[22:28:23] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> its*
[22:28:23] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> :D
[22:29:20] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD:hehe ok, but does that mean it's not possible to install onto a usb hard drive of 8gb? I might have missunderstood you :P
[22:29:52] <Jeannie> 8 Gb might be too small for a whole OS with DE
[22:30:15] <remos> fart
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[22:31:04] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> If you install on a USB you make a mini pc on you USB. That pc uses the hardware of the pc you put it in
[22:32:27] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: yes that is exactly what i'm looking for. Since i've read that it's not possible to make a usb manjaro usb persistent usb stick .
[22:32:31] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Jeannie: nope if you google it they always say 8gib. If you use gnome3 of plasma it's another story but he uses xfce4
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[22:36:21] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090 Well about the install progress I'm not a expert, but if you have it alright on a USB it must be as simple as power off, USB in the pc, boot, press the right button F12 or so, select the USB and boot. If I'm right tho
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[22:40:40] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: But you mean how to make a bootable manjaro xfce? I already have a bootable usb drive, i would like to be able to save settings and update patches onto the usb. But since persistent usb don't seem to be supported with manjaro (or is very complicated) that is not an option for me
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[22:43:08] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I thought if you have a bootable that is the way to get in to you pc
[22:44:01] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: could you sent me the link from website you used to make the USB bootable :)
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<live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: I've just downloaded the ISO and used https://etcher.io/
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[22:46:30] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Ooo live090 you made a livecd
[22:47:20] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Instead of a song on you USB
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[22:48:08] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: what!? :P
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[22:48:56] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> There is indeed a way to install linux on you USB and not being it a livecd
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[22:50:11] <IWishIKnew> Is this the official Manjaro Linux Distribution IRC Channel?
[22:50:33] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: alright, that sounds good, does anyone know of a guide or howto. I've been installing and testing 8 different distros that will run on my older netbook and it came down to MX-16 and Manjaro XFCE. I like Manjaro better because it's more polished and i don't need all the drivers and tweaks that mx16 offers
[22:51:08] <IWishIKnew> live090: you could always install Arch with a DM that isn't graphical.
[22:51:10] <live090> IWishIKnew: Yes, the topic does say that, welcome! :)
[22:51:10] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: that was my probleem to
[22:51:14] <IWishIKnew> like RatPoison.
[22:51:38] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Rat poison like i3 right?
[22:51:49] <IWishIKnew> I'm not sure what you mean by that...
[22:52:59] <IWishIKnew> "Ratpoison is a tiling window manager written in C..."
[22:53:24] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I3wm
[22:53:24] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> The tilling wm
[22:53:52] <IWishIKnew> tiling and tilling are two different things...
[22:54:00] <IWishIKnew> tilling is somthing you do to soil...
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[22:56:09] <IWishIKnew> What, as opposed to a fake version of Ubuntu?
[22:57:29] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> If you use a PI you have to use a program that installs a OS on a set
[22:57:33] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Sd*
[22:57:44] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Maybe that works for USB to
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[22:59:58] <IWishIKnew> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: you don't install an operating system...
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[23:00:16] <IWishIKnew> you simply overwrite the preferred media with its image.
[23:00:46] <IWishIKnew> It works with flash drives, CDs, and SD/microSD cards.
[23:00:58] <IWishIKnew> also external HDDs.
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[23:01:07] <thecrowlife> sup
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[23:04:37] <CupOfCoffee-PC> IWishIKnew oo good
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[23:06:53] <tyop> hi
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[23:08:41] <live090> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: ok thank you, but the problem has been that the usb drive never even showed up during the install. But i will try to see what happens once again :)
[23:09:50] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> live090: may need to edit the bios settings
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[23:20:09] <redsquare> i used dd to put the latest 64 bit xfce manjaro on a usb drive. when i attempt to boot from the usb drive with uefi i get that it does not validate. does anyone know why?
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[23:24:22] <live090> redsquare: have you tried using etcher.io instead? to get the iso onto the usb drive.
[23:25:02] <redsquare> live090: no, i have never heard of that. i will look into it.
[23:26:24] <live090> redsquare: it will save you a lot of time! It worked every time for me, i have flashed my usb drive 5 times a day for 3 days straight with different distros only using etcher.io and not having to enter all those darn terminal commands. (dd) :D
[23:26:29] <IWishIKnew> redsquare: probably because you didn't pass the argument to specify dd to write directly.
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[23:28:19] <redsquare> IWishIKnew: --direct?
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[23:28:42] <IWishIKnew> probably. I don't have the man page in front of me right now, I'm doing somthing else.
[23:30:53] <ringos> :)
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