January 7, 2017 
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January 7, 2017 [00:00:00] <CountryfiedLinux> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3520M CPU @ 2.90GHz (2.90GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (6.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 42.1 GiB / 104.2 GiB (62.1 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M • Uptime: 19m 37s[00:00:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Beast mode![00:00:09] <superbia> trump mode[00:00:10] <Kjeldmis> yes :)[00:00:14] <superbia> Kjeldmis: naisu[00:00:20] <superbia> Kjeldmis: wanna know what i use atm[00:00:22] <superbia> ?[00:00:32] <Kjeldmis> sure :)[00:00:39] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:387b:4fc4:9255:dc1b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:00:40] <CountryfiedLinux> I like Trump but I didn't vote for him. He was in my top picks though. As I've said before I voted for Darrell Castle.[00:01:29] <rhg136> yo[00:01:59] <roch> rhg136, Hi there![00:02:01] <superbia> Kjeldmis: 1995 AEKII made in Ireland, ISO, with costum hardware protocole converter to USB that hardcodes my layout of choice, colemak-DH[00:02:20] <superbia> in a FULL ISO configuratio[00:02:55] <superbia> the keycaps it uses are the best ever made, and the switches are among few greatest (IVORY ALPS SWITCHES)[00:03:06] <rhg136> I forgot to bring my mouse and am stuck with my touhpad; it is a sad time[00:03:08] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:e02a:4c2:c1a5:edd8> has joined #manjaro[00:03:18] <Kjeldmis> superbia: Thats a really cool keyboard config u got there[00:03:28] <superbia> Kjeldmis: the best switches are "BLUE ALPS"[00:03:40] <Kjeldmis> Must have taken some time to put together.[00:03:46] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:03:48] <superbia> i have photos[00:03:50] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:06] <Kjeldmis> Give em here :)[00:04:22] <superbia> Kjeldmis: when i bought it[00:04:24] <superbia> http://i.imgur.com/LOUNTfa.jpg[00:04:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/YdH0Q0] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[00:04:58] *** manjaro-web|6551 <manjaro-web|6551!5e1a2f2a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.26.47.42> has joined #manjaro[00:05:31] *** manjaro-web|7784 <manjaro-web|7784!ae6a1fd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.106.31.209> has joined #manjaro[00:05:35] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Ragequit)[00:05:37] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@broadband-46-242-10-114.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:06:09] <roch> give Us unboxing video![00:06:09] <Kjeldmis> superbia: when did u buy it? It looks brand new.[00:06:13] <superbia> then i found out i need to make a protocol converter for it[00:06:23] <superbia> so i made one[00:06:25] <superbia> http://i.imgur.com/iHk29lj.jpg[00:06:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bLWvdK] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[00:07:01] <manjaro-web|7784> Popping in to say Manjaro is the first distro ive installed (out of many) that actually works out-of-the-box with my R9 390. Hallelujah![00:07:38] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|7784: Praise Jesus... err.. I mean Arch.[00:07:52] <Kjeldmis> :D[00:08:18] <superbia> Kjeldmis: checked?[00:08:19] <Kjeldmis> superbia: what do u do for a living? If you dont mind me asking? :)[00:08:52] <superbia> Kjeldmis: its 00:08 i aint got time for small talk[00:08:55] <superbia> GOOD NIGHT[00:08:55] <Kjeldmis> y, Im trying to figure out what u need that IC for and what it does.[00:09:15] <Kjeldmis> Good night girl, cu around :)[00:09:19] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:09:28] <superbia> https://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard_II[00:09:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/hBN9wW] Apple Extended Keyboard II - Deskthority wiki[00:09:36] <superbia> check the INTERFACE section[00:09:42] <superbia> it should click[00:09:46] <superbia> in your head[00:10:03] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[00:10:07] <superbia> .[00:11:46] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:e02a:4c2:c1a5:edd8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:12:08] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[00:12:32] <Kjeldmis> converting ADB signals I would presume?[00:13:07] <Kjeldmis> Or am I in the wrong ballpark? :)[00:14:21] <roch> superbia is a girl that makes custom boards and reverse engeneers protocols ? wow.[00:14:39] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:e02a:4c2:c1a5:edd8> has joined #manjaro[00:14:49] <Kjeldmis> roch: to be fair, these mods are pretty basic[00:15:22] <Kjeldmis> Keyboards are pretty simple circuits.[00:16:22] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.85.187> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:16:56] <Kjeldmis> These old keyboards cant be connected to a modern computer, as many doesnt have the ADB or AT / XT interfaces[00:17:02] <CountryfiedLinux> I've noticed that the alternative media has a lot of misleading headlines.[00:17:31] <CountryfiedLinux> Shocking this, you won't believe what who said what, doomsday whatever...[00:18:02] <roch> false news U say ? :>[00:18:09] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@130.43.0.255.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:18:14] <Kjeldmis> So you would have to convert the signal to a digital encoded format which can be read properly via USB - which is what I believe the small converter circuit is for. Ive done the same on my model M[00:18:27] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:18:52] <roch> I tryied soldering once, grabbed wrong end of the iron :D[00:19:49] <roch> I mostly solder cables, plugs, nothing advanced though, this is next level.[00:22:16] <rhg136> ouch[00:23:16] <rhg136> I once did that with a hot glue gun D:[00:23:49] <roch> yea, learning from basics ;)[00:23:52] <Kjeldmis> roch: you wouldnt make the IC logic urself. You would make a premade board, like the one in the aforementioned picture, solder the wires to a small connecting board for the interface, so its not that advanced[00:24:24] <Kjeldmis> I dont mean make a premade board, I mean buy a premade board.[00:24:28] <Kjeldmis> Its late[00:24:32] <Kjeldmis> good night ppl.[00:24:43] <Kjeldmis> :)[00:25:05] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[00:25:07] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@62-46-154-22.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:25:20] <roch> nn![00:25:40] <rhg136> gl[00:26:33] <rhg136> insomnia makes sleep for me into a luck based thing D:[00:26:41] <roch> anyone knows how to change color of title bar text in active window? xfce4. vertex-maia-dark gtk2.0[00:27:25] <rhg136> edit the theme iirc[00:27:56] <rhg136> gtk themes aren't that malleable[00:28:34] <roch> /usr/share/themes/Vertex-Maia-Dark/gtk-2.0/gtkrc[00:28:42] <roch> can't find value then ;d[00:28:50] *** manjaro-web|6551 <manjaro-web|6551!5e1a2f2a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.26.47.42> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:28:57] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:29:12] <rhg136> copy it to .themes, iirc, then edit it[00:29:27] *** wavemob <wavemob!05371d03@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.55.29.3> has joined #manjaro[00:29:58] <wavemob> and what about a shortcut for minimazing windows?[00:30:22] <roch> wavemob, I use alt + media key[00:30:28] <roch> to show desktop[00:30:44] <rhg136> super + d[00:30:49] <rhg136> usually[00:32:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip70-190-143-47.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:32:07] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:32:33] *** manjaro-web|7784 <manjaro-web|7784!ae6a1fd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.106.31.209> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:32:42] <roch> rhg136, I don't have .themes in my ~/ shall I make one ?[00:32:43] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[00:32:50] <rhg136> yes[00:32:53] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[00:32:55] <roch> /.themes[00:32:57] <roch> kk![00:35:21] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-7.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:35:37] <roch> rhg136, and copy contents of Vertex-Maia-Dark from /usr/share there ?[00:35:51] <rhg136> now that I think, can't you override colors in .gtkrc?[00:36:05] <rhg136> yes[00:36:16] <roch> I can, can't find value[00:36:30] <rhg136> well, the folder[00:36:32] <roch> should be fg[selected] , but it's not there[00:36:35] <rhg136> hmm[00:37:16] <roch> wouldn't ask if it was that ez ;)[00:37:58] <rhg136> eh[00:38:17] <rhg136> rubber duck debugging[00:38:41] <roch> that squaks like a keyboard ?:)[00:38:52] <roch> and computers trust it[00:39:12] <roch> coz humans use keyboards and computers trust humans[00:39:23] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~Claymore@bl18-215-33.dsl.telepac.pt> has joined #manjaro[00:39:33] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rayqkkzttejjjway> has joined #manjaro[00:39:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[00:39:38] <rhg136> that's where you have a simple bug, you just need to say it outloud[00:40:28] <rhg136> I do it on #clojure and #android before[00:41:54] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~Claymore@bl18-215-33.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:47:53] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:48:50] *** wavemob <wavemob!05371d03@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.55.29.3> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:51:50] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[00:53:21] <roch> rhg136, U totally lost me there :)[00:55:52] <rhg136> basically, programming lingo for solving your own problem with just explaining it, roch. the other person is essentially a rubber duck[00:56:28] <roch> ah, I got it covered, I got a cat ;)[00:56:52] <roch> rhg136, that's very helping, thanks ;)[00:57:03] <rhg136> "they're not dolls!"[00:57:28] <rhg136> inanimate pieces of plastic are great[00:57:29] <roch> blade runner ? :)[00:57:42] <rhg136> nope[00:58:51] <roch> I once asked for good FM for linux here and I found it, ranger <3[00:59:15] <rhg136> ranger is great tbh[00:59:39] <roch> oh hell yes[00:59:55] <rhg136> just that python bit[01:00:19] <rhg136> good thing I know python lol[01:00:20] <roch> shame current git version isn't with sync with man pages, had some wtf moments :)[01:01:06] <rhg136> I cut my teeth with cat[01:01:35] <rhg136> I cat to the drive directly lol[01:01:58] <rhg136> no need for that fancy FS stuff[01:01:58] <roch> from git ? :"D[01:02:24] <negen_> anyone know if gsync is something useful ?[01:02:28] <roch> ahh, 'talking with firmwares'[01:02:36] <rhg136> mhm[01:03:03] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[01:03:29] <rhg136> everything is useful to someone[01:05:03] <roch> ok, found an ooold lego guy figure, mounting it on desk now :)[01:07:10] <rhg136> I never really got into lego as a kid[01:08:31] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[01:08:39] <negen_> https://www.amazon.com/Asus-GL702VM-DB71-17-3-Inch-i7-6700HQ-7200RPM/dp/B01KB0W4R0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1483747708&sr=1-1&keywords=Asus+ROG+Strix+GL702VM-DB71[01:08:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/kgkQqo] Amazon.com: Asus ROG Strix GL702VM-DB71 17.3-Inch. G-SYNC VR Ready Thin and Light Gaming Laptop (NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB Intel Core i7-6700HQ 16GB DDR4 1TB 7200RPM HDD): Computers & Accessories[01:08:51] <negen_> just bought that laptop[01:08:55] <roch> I inherited a big 'loot box' from a cousin as a kid, lucky[01:09:03] <negen_> hopefully it is not garbage[01:09:12] <rhg136> indeed[01:09:26] <rhg136> it will be, negen_[01:09:39] <rhg136> I saw nvidia :P[01:10:23] <optics> that's a nice looking laptop[01:10:44] <optics> and there is a big green glowing square on the keyboard[01:11:10] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dip216.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:11:12] <optics> wait, that's photoshop, https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71o6kVfYcXL._SL1200_.jpg[01:11:13] <rhg136> the cpu looks good though[01:11:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/DrMoCb] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[01:11:43] <rhg136> I miss having a non-heater CPU[01:11:54] <negen_> what is wrong with nvidia ?[01:12:36] <negen_> not sure if i will use linux on that laptop at first but nvidia seems work work good for me here on this pc[01:12:37] <vexare> optimus[01:12:56] <negen_> this is not optimus it is dedicated[01:13:01] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[01:13:23] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:13:42] <negen_> I do not know why people would want an optimus laptop[01:14:20] <negen_> I was going to go with the acer predator but the acer did not support nvme[01:14:51] <negen_> although the acer did have better wifi i think[01:15:40] <rhg136> gl with the drivers[01:16:01] <rhg136> I hear they work well D:[01:18:56] <optics> can't be worse than amd hybrid support[01:19:23] <optics> i'm still waiting to unleash the beast of the "non discrete" chip[01:19:30] *** CupOfCoffee_ <CupOfCoffee_!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:21:23] <rhg136> and some people like X[01:21:40] *** morningra <morningra!~morningra@81.213.36.168> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[01:22:33] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:22:41] <optics> Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 20384 Version: Lenovo B50-70[01:24:02] <optics> i tried to put a cd hard drive caddy in but it doesn't support the extra hdd, so then the flap on the cd drive snapped[01:24:10] <optics> now cockroaches live in the hole[01:24:45] <rhg136> eww[01:24:52] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@222.70.204.81> has joined #manjaro[01:24:58] <negen_> so far i think nvidia is the best for linux once amd works out there new stuff maybe they will become better than nvidia[01:25:11] <negen_> intel is stuck in 2005[01:25:18] <negen_> but make things that work[01:25:28] <optics> coackroach inside[01:26:28] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@70.41.76.12> has joined #manjaro[01:26:29] <rhg136> lol[01:28:11] <rhg136> intel would be my pick if you aren't hopelessly attached to such things[01:31:25] <vexare> what do you mean by stuck[01:31:31] * optics runs Dual core Intel Core i7-4510U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB[01:31:32] <vexare> drivers just work[01:31:38] <vexare> video acc too[01:32:32] <vexare> and when you update drivers you don't get black screen and have to pick - legacy one or find another distro[01:32:39] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:32:53] <vexare> amd is the worst in this sense[01:33:22] <rhg136> for the record my desktop works great[01:34:10] <optics> ever since a friends amd processor caught on fire in 2003 i have needed intel[01:34:24] <rhg136> open source drivers ftw; never need to downgrade X or kernel[01:34:51] <optics> it was fast until we had to break out the fire hydrant[01:34:54] <rhg136> optics: water cooling and amd for me[01:35:20] <optics> it scared me to intel for life[01:35:24] <rhg136> liquid nitrogen'd be nice[01:35:51] <rhg136> fast, and amd[01:36:08] <rhg136> musta been crazy OC then[01:36:21] <optics> i'm sure amd have evolved since the dark ages[01:36:33] <rhg136> not in heat[01:36:44] <rhg136> they've gotten hotter[01:36:59] <optics> the ps4 pro runs suprisingly hot[01:37:13] <optics> could almost fry an egg on the top of it[01:37:28] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:37:29] <rhg136> s/almost//[01:42:26] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:42:58] <optics> sick to death of this VDSL losing it's speed over time[01:43:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:2d76:4e51:96c3:6820> has joined #manjaro[01:43:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:2d76:4e51:96c3:6820> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:43:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[01:43:34] <optics> Downstream noise safety coefficient (dB) keeps creeping up after being connected for a few days[01:43:36] <roch> /usr/share/themes/Vertex-Maia-Dark/xfwm4/themerc file, bingo ;)[01:43:43] <TheGoose_> Anyone wanna help me set up ncmpcpp + mpd?[01:43:50] <TheGoose_> I keep getting connection refused in it[01:43:53] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:44:23] <rhg136> I hagen't even set up mine[01:46:09] <rhg136> inkscape 0.92 is out, yet in the repos is 0.91[01:46:42] <rhg136> so much for up to date enduser apps lol[01:47:13] * rhg136 grabs it off a testing repo[01:47:19] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:47:59] *** eNTi_ <eNTi_!~eNTi@194-166-139-98.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:48:00] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:48:56] *** optics 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<israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has joined #manjaro[02:46:00] <rhg136> irc is great[02:46:46] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[02:48:26] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@191.53.29.113> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:48:49] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[02:49:10] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:49:36] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[02:52:27] <Kjeldmis> there are few modern clients available tho.[02:52:38] <Kjeldmis> And next to none on Windows.[02:53:09] <rhg136> define modern[02:53:29] <rhg136> if you mean inline images yes[02:53:45] <Kjeldmis> modern, as in non-terminal[02:53:55] <rhg136> tho that's not too rare[02:54:23] <rhg136> you are confusing things with modern[02:54:36] <rhg136> and there are[02:54:41] <Kjeldmis> ?[02:54:53] <Kjeldmis> Im not confusing anything.[02:55:04] <rhg136> I used konversation a bit[02:55:45] <rhg136> hexchat, quassel, mirc, cololoquy[02:56:07] <rhg136> I am currently on kiwiirc[02:56:52] <Kjeldmis> Polari has some of the features, like message grouping, and intelligent timestamping. Highlighting features for inline private chatting, etc.[02:56:53] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[02:57:07] <rhg136> I usually use weechat through various, some graphical, relays[02:57:19] <Kjeldmis> Polari is still very feature-poor tho.[02:57:21] <rhg136> ah[02:57:32] <rhg136> those features[02:57:36] <rhg136> yeah[02:57:47] <Kjeldmis> y. modern chat / messaging features[02:58:08] <rhg136> nah[02:58:29] <rhg136> people are what defines any chat[02:58:45] <Kjeldmis> let me be blunt.[02:58:53] <Kjeldmis> an IRC client is a tool[02:58:56] <Kjeldmis> like a hammer[02:59:04] <rhg136> exactly[02:59:16] <Kjeldmis> and chatting with most IRC clients feels like hitting a nail with a screwdriver[02:59:22] <Kjeldmis> understand?[02:59:31] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-241-109-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:59:44] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-241-109-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has left #manjaro[03:00:45] <rhg136> yeah, I feel that when I use hexchat[03:01:11] <rhg136> as an aside I hate that word "modern"[03:01:18] <rhg136> so vague[03:05:22] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:05:46] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[03:06:33] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@152.173.38.19> has joined #manjaro[03:08:18] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@109.78.202.71> has joined #manjaro[03:08:37] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@152.173.38.19> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:09:27] <manjaroCinnamon1> Hello - can anyone help me diagnose a slow boot?[03:09:30] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:09:41] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[03:10:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> Ran dmesg and I got saw a big delay in mounting a partition.[03:11:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.541970] clocksource: tsc: mask: 0xffffffffffffffff max_cycles: 0x2284248580e, max_idle_ns: 440795288736 ns[03:11:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.917496] PM: Starting manual resume from disk[03:11:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.917503] PM: Hibernation image partition 8:3 present[03:11:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.917505] PM: Looking for hibernation image.[03:11:11] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.917696] PM: Image not found (code -22)[03:11:13] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 1.917700] PM: Hibernation image not present or could not be loaded.[03:11:15] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 2.542209] clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc[03:11:17] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 2.697233] random: nonblocking pool is initialized[03:11:19] <manjaroCinnamon1> [ 25.826835] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)[03:11:19] <rhg136> what fs?[03:11:31] <rhg136> please don't[03:11:44] <manjaroCinnamon1> Sorry, didn't know it would post it in seperate messages.[03:11:50] <rhg136> use a pastebin[03:12:06] <rhg136> ah, ext4[03:13:05] <manjaro-kde5> whats wrong with ext4? I use it and dont have any issues[03:13:09] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as harish2309[03:13:11] <rhg136> I haven't booted off ext4 in ages sorry[03:13:39] <rhg136> nothing just subpar[03:13:40] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:14:00] <manjaroCinnamon1> Does it seem like there's something up with that delay?[03:15:02] <rhg136> is the partition good?[03:15:31] <dodgejcr> manjaroCinnamon1: do some basic troubleshooting. boot a few times to see if the delay is persistant or if this is a fluke. Next check the filesystem to make sure it is good[03:15:43] <rhg136> like, can you mount it in another system fine[03:16:17] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:17:55] <manjaroCinnamon1> Not sure, really. If I run fdisk[03:17:57] <manjaroCinnamon1> I get this[03:18:00] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/sqwu464o[03:18:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8yPPr1] Defuse Security's Encrypted Pastebin[03:18:20] <manjaroCinnamon1> But it's a gpt disk, so those warnings may relate to that.[03:19:32] <rhg136> that may be the problem but idk[03:19:52] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:19:53] <dodgejcr> would definitely be something to be concerned about[03:20:01] <rhg136> I do know it's inefficient to not align[03:20:23] <dodgejcr> yup. Which can cause slow mounts/reads and all that good stuffs[03:20:32] <rhg136> mhm[03:20:37] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[03:20:41] *** Areone76 <Areone76!~sean@2601:82:c201:3648:c7a9:c954:95ed:518> has joined #manjaro[03:20:45] <manjaroCinnamon1> Ah ok![03:20:58] <manjaroCinnamon1> How could I fix it? Does it require a re-install?[03:21:15] <rhg136> and wiping it all...[03:21:40] <dodgejcr> lol most practical way is to yeah wipe it all and recreate the partitions[03:21:43] <rhg136> back it all up then copy it back[03:21:53] <manjaroCinnamon1> Oh man, hah.[03:21:59] <manjaroCinnamon1> It might have to be done.[03:22:02] <dodgejcr> makes for a fun night :D[03:22:05] <rhg136> no data loss just a lot of time[03:22:08] <manjaroCinnamon1> Total re-install?[03:22:26] <manjaroCinnamon1> How could they have become 'unaligned' in the first place? Any ideas?[03:22:44] <rhg136> not aligning on creation[03:23:06] <rhg136> they don't just move on their own[03:23:52] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[03:23:57] <manjaroCinnamon1> But if I did a standard install, that happened by itself?[03:24:08] <rhg136> hmm[03:24:23] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:24:29] <rhg136> is the drive good?[03:24:51] *** Areone76 <Areone76!~sean@2601:82:c201:3648:c7a9:c954:95ed:518> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:24:59] *** Guest44570 <Guest44570!~thomas@ipb21a21b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[03:25:08] <rhg136> or the controller[03:25:42] <manjaroCinnamon1> I'm not sure - I ran a smart scan, seemed to be ok.[03:25:48] <manjaroCinnamon1> It's an old-ish machine.[03:25:56] <manjaroCinnamon1> An ASUS N56vz laptop[03:26:08] <rhg136> hmm, that is weird[03:26:17] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:26:34] *** israuor <israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:26:42] *** Guest44570 <Guest44570!~thomas@ipb21a21b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:26:57] <manjaroCinnamon1> Would blkid or the contents of fstab help diagnose this?[03:27:03] <manjaroCinnamon1> Still pretty new to linux[03:27:32] <rhg136> really, I'm not good with storage[03:28:05] <rhg136> maybe fstab[03:32:44] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/Ruuum7t5[03:32:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gbJybz] (link was unresponsive: https://defuse.ca/b/Ruuum7t5)[03:33:09] <manjaroCinnamon1> Hm, let me try again[03:33:13] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/gVb0587pHKNJz04XjBWfvT[03:33:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6nznYf] Defuse Security's Encrypted Pastebin[03:35:57] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[03:36:58] <Kjeldmis> manjaroCinnamon1: whats the result of dmesg | grep -i sda[03:38:35] <Kjeldmis> also, the result of dmesg | grep -i ata could be useful aswell[03:39:25] <rhg136> nothing strange in there[03:40:16] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[03:41:24] <Kjeldmis> manjaroCinnamon1: ? u here?[03:42:32] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/3f7wLDZHXGoy1k8P9qZgKA[03:42:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7Bg9la] Defuse Security's Encrypted Pastebin[03:42:38] <manjaroCinnamon1> Yep, sorry, was just running it.[03:44:56] <rhg136> ...[03:45:11] <rhg136> 27s ti mount a fs[03:45:52] <Kjeldmis> have u run the first command aswell?[03:46:30] <Kjeldmis> the controller is behaving normally it would seem not to be hardware / ahci driver related/[03:47:33] <manjaroCinnamon1> Is that a long time?[03:47:57] <manjaroCinnamon1> What was the other command you suggested, Kjeldmis?[03:48:17] <Kjeldmis> dmesg | grep -i sda[03:48:50] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[03:49:04] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[03:49:10] <manjaroCinnamon1> That was the output of that, believe.[03:49:15] <manjaroCinnamon1> The link I last posted, I mean.[03:49:35] <rhg136> very long[03:49:35] *** Matombo444 <Matombo444!~Matombo@p57991F2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[03:49:54] <manjaroCinnamon1> I also ran a smartctl scan[03:50:05] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[03:50:05] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:50:18] <Kjeldmis> no, that was for ata.[03:50:53] <Kjeldmis> please post the result of dmesg | grep -i sda[03:50:59] <manjaroCinnamon1> Oh, ok, sorry.[03:51:08] *** zero-ghost <zero-ghost!~0@103.254.153.99> has joined #manjaro[03:51:43] <Kjeldmis> np[03:52:39] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/c4XDVfxZGLUVnYFxC3AbTp[03:52:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LYJffI] Defuse Security's Encrypted Pastebin[03:53:12] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579906A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:53:36] <Kjeldmis> are u sure u are copying from the right command?[03:53:52] <Kjeldmis> dmesg | grep -i sda not dmesg | grep -i ata[03:54:03] <manjaroCinnamon1> Let me check.[03:54:30] <manjaroCinnamon1> Doh.[03:54:34] <Kjeldmis> :)[03:56:09] <manjaroCinnamon1> https://defuse.ca/b/eCGn5OxC8efHkgoaDTfUBE[03:56:10] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fVpnJ5] Defuse Security's Encrypted Pastebin[03:57:15] *** rhg136 <rhg136!6cab84aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.171.132.170> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:58:59] <Kjeldmis> hm. there is nothing weird there.[03:59:04] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:59:06] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:59:14] <Kjeldmis> are you using e4rat or something similar?[03:59:50] <manjaroCinnamon1> Nope![03:59:58] <manjaroCinnamon1> Was just looking at it on yaourt though.[04:00:41] <Kjeldmis> well. it could be that the disk is just really slow, although I doubt it.[04:01:35] <manjaroCinnamon1> It could be I just need to restart it, see if it occurs again.[04:01:55] <Kjeldmis> y try that.[04:02:09] <manjaroCinnamon1> Next down the line when I run system-analyze blame is 3.845s plymouth-start.service[04:04:28] <Kjeldmis> hm, well plymouth runs after the system is[04:04:32] <Kjeldmis> mounted[04:04:40] <Kjeldmis> the system partition that is.[04:04:54] <manjaroCinnamon1> Ah, ok.[04:06:45] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.196.36> has joined #manjaro[04:06:52] <manjaroCinnamon> Sorry, got disconnected.[04:07:04] <manjaroCinnamon> How's a good way of telling if my partions are actually misaligned?[04:07:28] <Kjeldmis> basically ur interested in what the SATA controller is doing and if the disk encounters any errors after it has been recognized by the controller.[04:07:33] <Kjeldmis> misaligned?[04:07:42] <Kjeldmis> what do u mean?[04:08:21] <Kjeldmis> the partition is probably fine. it would tell us otherwise.[04:08:56] <Kjeldmis> my guess would be there is some other hardware issue slowing down the boot process[04:09:26] <Kjeldmis> The disk and controller seems fine.[04:09:38] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@109.78.202.71> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:10:11] <manjaroCinnamon> Is it normal to have black space at the start and end of the partioning scheme in Gparted?[04:10:28] <manjaroCinnamon> Blank, I mean.[04:10:55] <Kjeldmis> ur using GPT as a partition layout right?[04:10:57] <manjaroCinnamon> 2.0 mib at the start, 2.49 at the end.[04:10:58] <manjaroCinnamon> Yep.[04:11:07] <Kjeldmis> doesnt matter then[04:11:35] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[04:12:39] <Kjeldmis> MBR can have a misfit. GPR and UEFI doesnt care where the partitions are located on the disk[04:12:54] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[04:13:19] <Kjeldmis> GPT~[04:14:35] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs_)[04:15:55] <manjaroCinnamon> Ah, ok.[04:15:57] <manjaroCinnamon> That's good.[04:16:19] <manjaroCinnamon> Would switching to XCFE help boot times at all?[04:16:28] <Kjeldmis> no[04:16:51] <Kjeldmis> What happens in the timings between 1 and 25?[04:17:09] <manjaroCinnamon> No idea.[04:17:31] <Kjeldmis> try posting a full dmesg log please.[04:18:10] <manjaroCinnamon> I think I will reboot, and then run dmesg again[04:18:19] <Kjeldmis> kk[04:18:31] <manjaroCinnamon> See if that changes the SDA2 issue[04:19:15] <manjaroCinnamon> Thanks for you help so far![04:19:18] <manjaroCinnamon> Here goes the reeboot[04:19:24] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.196.36> 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(any documentation?)[08:50:45] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[08:52:18] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:53:09] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[08:56:14] *** israuor <israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has joined #manjaro[08:58:36] *** linda__ <linda__!~linda@2a02:8070:c6a2:4800:4ecc:6aff:fe05:58d1> has joined #manjaro[08:58:52] <linda__> hi[09:00:09] <linda__> I'm completlty new to archlinux/manjaro. How can I install peazip without going all the dependency hell manually, cloning repos and compiling all myself? Is there a way to resolve all needed deps automatically and compile and install them in one go?[09:01:08] <zero-ghost> did you look in the aur[09:01:10] <linda__> peazip needs libcurl, which in turn needs 5 libs, etc...[09:01:29] <linda__> zero-ghost, I looked here https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/peazip-gtk2/[09:01:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4JFOH1] AUR (en) - peazip-gtk2[09:01:59] <linda__> I cloned the .git and tried "makepkg"[09:02:10] <linda__> but it told me that deps were missing[09:02:11] <zero-ghost> the aur does everything for you[09:02:17] <zero-ghost> its click and go[09:02:38] <linda__> "download snapshot" is the aur?[09:02:48] <zero-ghost> what edition of manjaro are you using[09:02:54] <linda__> alpha[09:02:58] <linda__> 17[09:03:00] <zero-ghost> xfce/kde/other[09:03:04] <linda__> xfce[09:03:13] <zero-ghost> open add/remove software[09:03:27] <linda__> done[09:03:27] <rhg135> makepkg -s[09:03:43] <zero-ghost> go to the preferences drop down in the top right[09:03:55] <zero-ghost> click AUR tab[09:04:07] <zero-ghost> enable aur support slider[09:04:08] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[09:04:25] <zero-ghost> check the box 'check updates from aur'[09:05:06] <zero-ghost> i have the 'do not ask for confirmation' box checked because otherwise it will ask you "do you really want to install this?" like 5000 times during installing something rfom aur[09:05:10] <zero-ghost> or even updating[09:05:51] <linda__> zero-ghost, in the prefs, I have "general", "official repos" and "cache" no aur[09:05:52] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:06:14] <zero-ghost> then something is wrong[09:06:30] <zero-ghost> and i dont know what[09:06:42] <zero-ghost> why are you using an alpha build?[09:06:48] <zero-ghost> just use the official ISO[09:06:55] <zero-ghost> reinstall, have things work[09:06:56] <linda__> zero-ghost, because it's the only one booting to desktop[09:07:32] <linda__> the AMD RX480 GPU is only supported by latest AMD-GPU which needs kernel 4.9[09:08:39] <linda__> add/remove software is pamac right?[09:08:45] <zero-ghost> yea[09:09:05] <linda__> no aur tab in alpha :/[09:09:54] <zero-ghost> command line is 'yaourt'[09:09:56] <linda__> zero-ghost, I have an option "install local package" just above preferences. Could it be an aur installer?[09:10:09] <zero-ghost> yaourt -S peazip[09:10:16] <zero-ghost> installs peazip from aur[09:10:21] <zero-ghost> but i know its not just peazip[09:10:40] <day|flip> you may want to install "base-devel"[09:11:59] <zero-ghost> looks like it would be 'peazip-qt'[09:12:13] <zero-ghost> so you can try 'yaourt -S peazip-qt' from command line[09:12:53] <linda__> day|flip, base-devel packages are already all installed[09:13:09] <linda__> zero-ghost, anywhere or from git repo?[09:13:15] <zero-ghost> command line.[09:13:19] <zero-ghost> terminal[09:13:44] <zero-ghost> yaourt is a local program on your computer so it doesnt matter what directory youre in in the terminal[09:14:16] <linda__> it ask if I want to edit pkgbuild[09:14:21] <day|flip> does it build everything in tmp folder?[09:14:42] <zero-ghost> say 'no' to edit anything[09:14:52] <zero-ghost> and yes to all 'install' questions[09:15:46] <day|flip> it very rare to have to edit anything from the aur.[09:15:46] <zero-ghost> those are all the questions i was saying that one option would skip[09:15:47] <linda__> zero-ghost, error: Makepkg couldn't build balz[09:16:16] <zero-ghost> is your install dirty from you manually trying to build that program from git and everywhere else?[09:16:22] <zero-ghost> i dont know what balz is[09:16:49] <linda__> I just tried to build peazip, not balz[09:17:05] <linda__> I don't know what balz is either[09:17:10] <zero-ghost> its probably one of the dependecies it needs[09:17:20] <day|flip> balz - Command-line file compressor with a high compression ratio and fast decompression[09:17:59] <day|flip> it needed for gui front end of peazip[09:18:06] <linda__> it seems it fails because it can't enter fakeroot environment[09:20:41] <zero-ghost> try building balz first[09:20:45] <zero-ghost> yaourt -S balz[09:21:00] <linda__> installing fakeroot resolved problem, but now lib32-gmp4 needs gcc-multilib and this last one wants to remove gcc... not sure it's a good idea[09:22:11] <zero-ghost> i dunno... thats the hell when you use bloated software[09:22:20] <zero-ghost> what does peazip do that 7zip doesnt?[09:22:57] <linda__> zero-ghost, well sometime I just want a gui for archive management and it also offer quick right-click checksums, file comparison, etc...[09:23:32] <zero-ghost> well yaourt -S peazip-qt is building everything fine for me no errors[09:23:39] <zero-ghost> so im gonna assume its that alpha build[09:23:45] <linda__> and manjaro has no archive manager gui by default[09:24:23] <zero-ghost> engrampa might be installed by default[09:24:29] <zero-ghost> or else i just always install that one[09:25:56] <linda__> zero-ghost, just kicked gcc for gcc multilib, will see :D[09:25:57] <zero-ghost> yea engrampa is there by default[09:26:02] <linda__> but it compiles[09:26:02] <zero-ghost> has a gui[09:26:06] <zero-ghost> does all the basics[09:26:43] <linda__> zero-ghost, I also prefer stable releases normally, but this time it wasn't possible, even with blacklisting in the boot options[09:30:16] <linda__> zero-ghost, those questions are indeed very... gives me headaches. Sometime it's Y, sometime it's n, sometime with enter sometime not, making it validate the next question if you are too fast :D[09:30:24] <linda__> zero-ghost, but it now works :)[09:30:37] <linda__> thanks for the help, yaourt should be installed by default[09:31:48] <zero-ghost> it is[09:32:02] <zero-ghost> youre just using an alpha build[09:33:10] <linda__> zero-ghost, ok, didn't know that alpha had some functions disabled. By the way, will it upgrade to stable 17 when 17 is released or will it stay on an alpha "channel"[09:33:12] <linda__> ?[09:34:39] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@bsr-176-139-185-179.ft.ethernet.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[09:34:48] <NaoTix> Hi[09:38:46] <rhg135> linda__: you just described xarchive[09:38:59] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxlarofnhvmhldic> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:39:44] <rhg135> A GUI for archive management[09:40:28] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[09:44:14] <linda__> rhg135, I'll try xarchive too, but peazip has some really cool functions, well on supported systems at least.[09:44:36] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:45:07] <rhg135> But have to build it[09:46:00] <rhg135> I only use it to open archives from FF instead of downloading[09:46:14] <linda__> rhg135, yep, but it's ok if it's "build it once, use it for a year"[09:46:27] <rhg135> Usually I use ranger and the command line[09:46:39] <rhg135> True[09:47:36] <linda__> rhg135, sometime cmd is better, sometime GUI. It depends on the case. For quick and dirty preview of what is in an archive, GUI is just way faster.[09:48:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@176.61.187.48> has joined #manjaro[09:48:33] <rhg135> Ranger is graphical just within a terminal[09:51:14] <rhg135> Ranger is great honestly[09:51:49] <rhg135> Very fast to use once you get used to it[09:51:51] <linda__> rhg135, will try, thanks for the ti[09:51:53] <day|flip> i never got around using ranger a lot. i used to used mc back in the days of fluxbox[09:51:56] <linda__> *tip[09:52:21] <rhg135> I guess it depends[09:53:02] <rhg135> X is a glorified terminal for me basically with a good browser[09:54:20] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@c-bg-d-p1-76.bvcom.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:05:19] *** kartik <kartik!~kartik@117.254.218.139> has joined #manjaro[10:05:30] <kartik> Hi guys[10:05:47] <kartik> there is flicker in my ati config. how can i fix it?[10:06:00] <kartik> can somebody help[10:07:12] <kartik> I have ATI 4570 mobility graphics card and latest version of manajaro + fully updated. There is flicker on the screen whenever i scroll or move my mouse over things.[10:10:09] <kartik> i am using latest open source driver[10:11:31] <rhg135> Compositor?[10:12:22] <day|flip> what desktop are you using? or window manager?[10:12:37] <Vlado9A> hello world[10:12:58] <kartik> default compositor on manjaro 16.10 xfce.. i disable compositing from window manager tweaks with same results[10:13:33] <day|flip> you may have a better time using compiz with xfce[10:14:03] <day|flip> just wondering. are you using free driver or non free?[10:14:08] <rhg135> compton is also a good one imo[10:14:17] <rhg135> Free[10:14:47] <kartik> ati radeon free driver.. i already tried compton but same results.. Tried lots of other distros like elementary , mint, etc... same results[10:14:48] <day|flip> compton is ok. but some time a pain to deal with. to me as time go by. it keep getting buggy[10:14:59] <rhg135> Hmm[10:15:17] <rhg135> That might be a hardware fault then[10:15:27] <kartik> whenever i scroll in manjaro applications menu , white horizontal lines flicker on the screen[10:15:43] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@194-166-139-98.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[10:15:51] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:15:54] <kartik> It is not a hardware fault as i also have windows dual boot and no issues there[10:16:01] <day|flip> na. i bet you may need to change or add some thing to xorg.conf/20-ati.conf w/e it called[10:16:38] <rhg135> How about on fglrx?[10:18:21] <kartik> i read the wiki and added tearfree and other options to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-mhwd.conf and rebooted and no solution.. And after doing some research found that fglrx is not supported in new Xorg[10:18:34] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@176.61.187.48> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:18:41] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:18:57] <rhg135> Manjaro packages the older version fortunately[10:19:12] <day|flip> kartik: manjar got some new package that work with xorg 18[10:19:44] <rhg135> Nope, it uses a separate X package[10:20:04] <rhg135> catalyst-server[10:20:20] <day|flip> that the hole idea to keep supporting it[10:20:31] <rhg135> Yup[10:20:39] <rhg135> It sucks but eh[10:20:46] <kartik> X.Org X Server 1.18.4[10:20:51] <rhg135> Easier than say arch[10:21:35] <day|flip> i find setting a skylake gup iris 540 a huge fking pain. compare to just nvidia driver[10:21:38] <kartik> LoadModule: "radeon"[10:21:57] <day|flip> gpu**[10:22:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@93.red-176-85-224.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[10:22:13] <kartik> what can i do?[10:22:30] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has joined #manjaro[10:22:42] <day|flip> is this happening to all windows or just the web browser?[10:23:36] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@93.red-176-85-224.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:23:42] <kartik> inside the web browser and as well as on the desktop.. Also when i open up libreoffice writer and type something , it flickers with every key press[10:24:38] <rhg135> You could try using a Wayland compositor, but that's a bit involved[10:25:07] <day|flip> have you tried installing compiz. installed it and to run it do "compiz --replace"[10:25:20] <kartik> i disabled the xfce compositor from settings and it still flickers[10:25:44] <kartik> so i am thinking that it is not a compositor problem[10:26:07] <day|flip> xfce compositor is crap compare to compton[10:26:16] <rhg135> You want a compositor, that's what makes up one image from everything going on[10:26:43] <day|flip> that why im suggesting a simple compositor to work with[10:26:54] <rhg135> Otherwise, the way X does it is bad[10:27:28] <kartik> ok i will just install compiz[10:27:31] <day|flip> kartik: mhwd -li what do you get. post it on pastebin.com[10:29:24] <kartik> It just has one line --->> video-ati version 2016.08.22 freedriver True type PCI[10:30:01] <day|flip> ok just wondering if by any chance two driver were installed. I have seen it happens[10:32:03] <kartik> should i get compiz or compton[10:32:49] <day|flip> compiz is easier to used since it have a gui to handle the effects[10:33:05] <day|flip> compton is all command line3[10:33:36] <day|flip> you said you made a 20-radeon.conf or you edit a defferent file?[10:33:58] <day|flip> like 90-mhwd.conf?[10:34:42] <day|flip> just like to see what been added so far. see if i can make a ok guess what it need to be[10:35:11] <kartik> i tried adding settings in 90-mhwd.conf and it didnt work so i reverted and made 20-radeon.conf and it didnt work as well[10:35:55] <day|flip> can you paste what been done to it. see if i can come up with anything to be added or take away[10:36:28] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:37:27] <kartik> http://pastebin.com/zWEx5vvm[10:37:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/2QpSXy] ## ## Generated by mhwd - Manjaro Hardware Detection ## Section "Device - Pastebin.com[10:37:49] <kartik> this is the file i have reverted everything to default[10:38:14] <kartik> http://pastebin.com/zWEx5vvm[10:38:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/2QpSXy] ## ## Generated by mhwd - Manjaro Hardware Detection ## Section "Device - Pastebin.com[10:38:59] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:40:48] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:41:28] <day|flip> http://pastebin.com/bNS8VeDx[10:41:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Gl9Q2j] ## ## Generated by mhwd - Manjaro Hardware Detection ## Section "Device - Pastebin.com[10:42:52] <kartik> ok i got it[10:43:08] <day|flip> you want to see how many file i have to fix any of all my stupid issue with intel...[10:43:20] <kartik> I also installed compton from pacman.. can you give me a good compton.conf[10:43:50] <day|flip> i just give you simple command that i used alot for compton[10:44:48] <kartik> ok[10:45:04] <day|flip> compton --backend xrender -bCGz[10:45:22] <day|flip> you cant used glx due to that free driver your using[10:45:52] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:46:23] <day|flip> but i have not used compton in some time. but that for the better. i been enjoying Budgie DE[10:46:45] <kartik> vsync_opengl_swc_init(): I'm afraid glXSwapIntervalSGI wouldn't help if you are not using GLX backend. You could try, nonetheless.[10:49:24] <kartik> ok i used this compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --glx-no-stencil --vsync opengl-swc --unredir-if-possible[10:49:34] <kartik> compton is now loaded[10:49:39] <kartik> same issue[10:49:46] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@AStrasbourg-651-1-243-110.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:49:55] <kartik> still having while horizontal lines[10:49:59] <day|flip> i thought free drive don't really support glx[10:52:04] <kartik> now what[10:52:17] <day|flip> compiz --replace[10:52:44] <day|flip> stop running compton[10:52:52] <day|flip> pkill jcompton[10:52:57] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[10:52:57] <day|flip> pkill compton[10:53:07] <kartik> killed compton and did a pacman -S compiz[10:53:21] <day|flip> compiz --replace[10:53:52] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:54:04] <kartik> installing compiz-manajaro , metacity, boost etc... may time some time due to slow internet..[10:54:40] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@p4FF66C5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:56:13] <kartik> just to let you know.. i lowered the resolution on my monitor and it fixed the issue. but when i revert back to 1920x1080p the problem resumes[10:56:33] <day|flip> that weird.[10:56:34] *** sacarde <sacarde!~sacarde@151.40.179.8> has joined #manjaro[10:56:37] <sacarde> hi[10:57:06] <day|flip> hello[10:57:43] *** Trustable_2 <Trustable_2!~Trustable@dslb-188-106-151-121.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[10:57:45] <sacarde> iso manjaro-kde-2016-10 not include xf86-video-nouveau driver?[10:57:48] *** Trustable_2 <Trustable_2!~Trustable@dslb-188-106-151-121.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:58:48] <day|flip> did you loaded up free or non free?[10:59:10] <sacarde> are there 2 isos?[10:59:15] *** gambit86 <gambit86!~manjaro@2602:306:c430:e430:bb2a:182d:23d3:3ce4> has joined #manjaro[10:59:19] <gambit86> hello[10:59:55] <day|flip> sacarde: no. just before you boot. there should be a list of option to pick from.[11:00:01] <sacarde> ah[11:00:02] <sacarde> ok[11:06:10] <kartik> i may have to install an older distro with older kernel[11:06:26] <kartik> 3.13 kernel or older[11:09:00] <day|flip> why older?[11:09:36] <day|flip> btw here all i done just so i feel like im using my linux computer with easy on my intel gpu.[11:09:46] <day|flip> kartik: http://pastebin.com/gkWsTshx[11:09:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xZxmfn] cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d20-intel.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Gra - Pastebin.com[11:09:58] *** linda__ <linda__!~linda@2a02:8070:c6a2:4800:4ecc:6aff:fe05:58d1> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:11:03] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:11:11] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[11:14:30] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-131-112.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:14:45] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[11:17:13] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[11:20:08] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:21:07] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[11:21:29] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC ()[11:21:55] <day|flip> kartik: their some bad news. it a xorg issue that your having. little digging around and find this in linux mint fourm.[11:21:58] <day|flip> AMD dropped restricted driver support for their HD series prior to 5x when the X-server got upgraded from 1.12 5to 1.13. In term of Ubuntu versions, that means the last one that supported restricted drivers for the HD 2x/3x/4x series was 12.04.1. In Mint terms, that takes you back to Mint 13. Nothing newer will work with restricted drivers and the HD 2x/3x/4x series cards.[11:22:37] *** gambit86 <gambit86!~manjaro@2602:306:c430:e430:bb2a:182d:23d3:3ce4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:37:12] *** nazgul <nazgul!25c9f0da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.201.240.218> has joined #manjaro[11:37:37] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[11:37:49] <day|flip> kartik: 20-radeon.conf try changing to a older setting like "AccelMethod" "exa" Option "EXAVSync" "yes" "DRI" "2"[11:37:57] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:38:09] <day|flip> since this is a really old card[11:38:16] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:39:51] *** hype <hype!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:40:14] *** hype is now known as Guest49764[11:40:35] *** Guest49764 <Guest49764!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:40:36] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-202-235-87.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[11:41:15] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:41:24] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:41:46] <day|flip> kartik: http://pastebin.com/a3QKVJP9[11:41:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/FYwGfG] ## ## Generated by mhwd - Manjaro Hardware Detection ## Section "Device - Pastebin.com[11:41:50] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:41:59] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:42:36] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-202-235-87.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:42:56] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[11:43:00] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:43:20] <nazgul> Hi, I reboote this morning and came a across something really odd. I am running manjaro stable. All regular users cannot login any more, only root can. "useradd -m test;passwd test" and "su - test" says 'cannot change dir to /home/test: permission denied. failed to execute /bin/bash: Permission denied'. I do not use SELinux or apparmor. it is all standard file permissions.[11:43:50] *** manj-budgie__ <manj-budgie__!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has joined #manjaro[11:44:00] *** manj-budgie_ <manj-budgie_!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:44:02] *** manj-budgie__ <manj-budgie__!~manjaro-b@79-133-7-36.bredband.aland.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:44:07] <nazgul> file permissions under /home/ all look fine, also on /usr/bin[11:44:47] <Widea> nazgul: maybe the filesystem is corrupt and in read-only mode[11:45:05] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has joined #manjaro[11:45:14] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:45:57] <day|flip> last time i had something like this happen to me. was firefox was bug. fedroa 25 though.[11:46:15] *** manjaro-web|5927 <manjaro-web|5927!25de7e8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.222.126.140> has joined #manjaro[11:46:17] <nazgul> Widea: good thougt, I just checked, / is mounted rw (btrfs)[11:46:33] <day|flip> i had xfs installed at that time[11:46:52] *** manjaro-web|5927 <manjaro-web|5927!25de7e8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.222.126.140> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:47:00] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has joined #manjaro[11:47:06] <Widea> nazgul: nevertheless, it can still be corrupt. I would check it after booting the system from sysresccd for example[11:48:54] <batch> hi day|flip 0/[11:49:09] <day|flip> ello batch. how are you[11:49:21] <nazgul> Widea: thanks, that is a possibility I need to check.[11:49:21] <batch> i'm doing ok thankyou day|flip and yourself?[11:50:21] <day|flip> doing ok now. but getting intel iris 540 to run will is a pain in the neck to get it to run right[11:51:14] <batch> oh i have no idea tbh :p[11:51:19] <day|flip> look at all this. it stupid. http://pastebin.com/gkWsTshx[11:51:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xZxmfn] cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d20-intel.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Gra - Pastebin.com[11:51:47] <day|flip> idk how many time i reboot just to see if anything from 20-intel.conf work or not[11:52:39] <batch> try "DRI" "3"[11:52:44] <batch> ?[11:52:53] <day|flip> i find it broken with this gpu[11:53:03] <batch> awh k[11:53:11] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:53:12] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:53:33] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:53:52] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[11:53:57] <batch> what does mhwd -li say day|flip ?[11:54:05] *** Amplificator <Amplificator!~quassel@unaffiliated/amplificator> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:54:10] <batch> just intel i assume[11:54:29] <day|flip> not using manjaro. but ya. using intel[11:55:52] <day|flip> xorg-driver-video-intel 2.99.917-28[11:56:14] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:56:25] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[11:56:31] <day|flip> i have tried modesetting. but it suck hard[11:58:49] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[11:58:53] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[12:00:07] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[12:01:17] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:01:35] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:03:38] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991F2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:04:53] <batch> do you have a seperate section for DRI also day|flip ?[12:05:13] <batch> oh you do[12:05:22] <batch> no not[12:05:39] <day|flip> it just a simple intel.conf[12:08:51] *** NoSyK <NoSyK!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[12:08:58] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[12:09:43] <batch> its a laptop i assume day|flip ?[12:09:52] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:13:08] <batch> day|flip maybe you can do like cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log right after boot and see if it says something about missing monitor configurations?[12:16:41] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@customer-185-81-109-209.stosn.net> has joined #manjaro[12:17:02] <day|flip> no laptop. intel nuc 6th gen i5[12:17:30] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Back to Work)[12:17:48] <batch> ooh[12:17:49] <day|flip> not having any issue now. with my setup. but it took time to play with finding out the best option see what work what does not.[12:18:01] <manjaroDeepin> hello! I run Manjaro Deepin from usb, tried to change the screen resolution within the settings panel and nothing happens. Anyone know how to change the screen res?[12:18:08] <batch> yeah k nice[12:18:23] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[12:22:56] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@customer-185-81-109-209.stosn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:23:54] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:23:58] *** NoSyK <NoSyK!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:34:12] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:38:13] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-074.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:39:29] *** vikrant3908050 <vikrant3908050!6ac03a31@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.106.192.58.49> has joined #manjaro[12:40:12] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@47-32-34-220.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[12:40:34] <vikrant3908050> hey iam looking to set up a web development environment on my thinkpad so is manjaro willbe a good thing in anlong run[12:43:12] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:44:35] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@47-32-34-220.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:44:36] <magican> Yepp.. XFCE or Openbox (if thinkpad have some low specs)[12:44:54] <magican> However I use openbox on my i7 6600K and GTX01080 just cos I like it clean.[12:45:26] <vikrant3908050> thanks[12:46:21] <magican> Fancy wobbling windows etc is fun a firt, later on clean is more awesome :)[12:46:25] <day|flip> magican: do you have 128GB of ram too?[12:46:40] <magican> day|flip: Haha, nah, 16Gb[12:47:05] <magican> BUT! Drives: HDD Total Size: 4525.9GB (4.8% used) <--will last forever[12:47:21] <vikrant3908050> one more thing should i go for stable ,community or development release[12:48:26] <day|flip> magican: on my intel nuc 32gb of ram, fanless, 1 256gb m.2 ssd and 1 2tb hdd[12:49:21] <day|flip> magican: duel screen 1 2k monitor and 1 1080 monitor both at 27"[12:49:27] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[12:51:30] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@arj253.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:52:59] <magican> Vey nice! Then U must get the ASUS 240Hz comming sonn =)[12:53:54] *** manjaro-web|1278 <manjaro-web|1278!5b89d3bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.137.211.191> has joined #manjaro[12:54:39] <day|flip> im starting to build a new pc. with air 540 and plan for am4 mobo ryzen cpu. not top of the line. just something to replace my old desk top computer.[12:55:23] <magican> Best thing I've done was to move my linux to SSD.. holycrap =)[12:55:25] *** manjaro-web|1278 <manjaro-web|1278!5b89d3bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.137.211.191> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:55:30] <day|flip> lol[12:55:53] <day|flip> m.2 is faster then normal ssd[12:56:30] <magican> Ofc it is.. but got a good deal on the crucial ssd[12:56:31] *** vikrant3908050 <vikrant3908050!6ac03a31@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.106.192.58.49> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:56:47] <day|flip> 200?[12:57:09] <day|flip> crucial 200?[12:57:15] <magican> MX300[12:57:25] <magican> (275Gb)[12:57:27] <day|flip> i have mx200 500gb[12:57:42] <magican> $50[12:57:51] <magican> So its OK, fast enough for me.[12:57:56] <mike-zal> is there a linux program that is capable to converting pdf to xmls or other spreadsheed format?[12:58:16] <superbia> mike-zal: did you try google[12:58:20] <mike-zal> as to ssd, I just bought M2 120GB SSD as it was the cheapest option[12:58:21] <superbia> mike-zal: pdf to xmls online[12:58:28] <mike-zal> superbia: tried that already[12:58:45] <mike-zal> usually: they don't do job at all (empty file)[12:58:59] <mike-zal> or convert first 2 sites of many (unless you pay)[12:59:12] <mike-zal> or you have to wait over half an hour for the result[12:59:48] <mike-zal> since so far none of them produced any correct file, I am not inclined to pay a dime[13:01:21] *** mnemonic <mnemonic!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:03:56] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:07:06] *** CupOfCoffee_ <CupOfCoffee_!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[13:08:13] *** mandje_ <mandje_!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:a476:696d:53c0:7406> has joined #manjaro[13:09:16] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[13:09:47] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[13:10:50] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:e02a:4c2:c1a5:edd8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:11:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@213.235.81.92> has joined #manjaro[13:12:17] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[13:12:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[13:12:32] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[13:12:58] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:13:09] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic[13:16:00] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[13:17:52] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dcu74.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:23:13] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[13:26:03] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[13:29:54] *** captain0 <captain0!~captain0@103.16.27.75> has joined #manjaro[13:32:30] *** captain0 <captain0!~captain0@103.16.27.75> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[13:37:59] *** ibitashark <ibitashark!d572e1a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.114.225.160> has joined #manjaro[13:39:02] <ibitashark> Hello everyone. What is the default display manager in manjaro?[13:40:10] *** ToeSnacks <ToeSnacks!sid84043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rozdnprxdrxsvjyt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:40:12] <Jeannie> Afaik this would depend on your DE[13:40:40] <ibitashark> On the KDE edition, what is it called? I need to enable it[13:42:01] <day|flip> look for system setting[13:42:32] <ibitashark> I only have the command line, the DM is not starting[13:42:43] <day|flip> ahh[13:42:44] <Jeannie> KDE should come with SDDM[13:42:48] <day|flip> ya[13:43:03] <day|flip> i was thinking different[13:43:32] <ibitashark> Thanks![13:44:19] *** ibitashark <ibitashark!d572e1a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.114.225.160> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:51:24] *** SpaceManSparrow <SpaceManSparrow!~manjaro-i@203-7-1-67.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:55:10] *** nazgul <nazgul!25c9f0da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.201.240.218> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:56:46] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[13:58:00] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-f1d5-c478-2ce1-d883.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[13:58:00] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-f1d5-c478-2ce1-d883.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[13:58:00] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[14:03:45] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has joined #manjaro[14:03:48] <grayskull> hi[14:04:03] <grayskull> hows to install a bunch of packages such " pacman -S Xorg* "[14:04:11] <grayskull> ringos: !!![14:05:03] <day|flip> will my guess is ti isntall a package need all the other dependsy for it[14:05:22] <day|flip> is to*[14:05:37] <grayskull> im installing git[14:05:40] <grayskull> aha ok[14:05:50] <grayskull> but such apt-get install what-the-fuck*[14:05:57] <grayskull> i need some asterisk[14:06:06] <day|flip> you could install a group[14:06:14] <day|flip> pacman -S base-devel[14:06:17] <grayskull> ahhhh whoohoo how?[14:06:20] <grayskull> yeah[14:06:26] <grayskull> its already installed[14:06:36] <grayskull> i use testbuild xfce minimal[14:06:46] <day|flip> that group up for of all sort of stuff needed for compiling[14:06:46] <grayskull> kernel 4.10-FTW[14:06:55] <grayskull> i see thanls for remind[14:07:02] <grayskull> its installed i do it yesterday[14:07:19] <grayskull> so=[14:07:20] <grayskull> :[14:07:22] <grayskull> :)[14:07:59] <grayskull> look[14:08:01] <grayskull> os[Linux 4.10.0-1-MANJARO - ] up[ 13 hours, 06 minutes] cpu[Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240T CPU @ 2.90GHz SMP (4 processors), 2339.611 MHz (23160.4 bogomips)] mem[ 2378.75/7859.29 MB (30.3%)] video[Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)+ NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [GeForce 705M] (rev a1) at 1024x768 (32 bits)][14:08:04] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:08:19] <grayskull> hehehe[14:08:24] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has quit IRC (Quit: :-D)[14:09:29] <Jeannie> 705m?[14:09:38] <day|flip> did you install net install?[14:13:03] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohwahkiayktwodai> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[14:17:45] <sgm091> anyone have any info on amdgpu-pro support in manjaro ?[14:17:57] <sgm091> this whole amd driver situation is so confusing[14:18:30] <day|flip> it only in the aur as far as i know[14:18:46] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:18:53] *** superbia1 <superbia1!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[14:19:13] <sgm091> the aur has only 16.30[14:19:38] <day|flip> and arch don't even have it as a package[14:20:13] <Jeannie> Hasn't arch removed all proprietary AMD drivers anyway?[14:22:03] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:23:32] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:29:12] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[14:30:25] <day|flip> exit[14:30:28] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:30:48] *** eNTi_ <eNTi_!~eNTi@178-190-223-79.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[14:30:56] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[14:31:07] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@ip112.ip-149-56-93.net> has joined #manjaro[14:31:29] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@213.235.81.92> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:34:05] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@194-166-139-98.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:37:34] *** keevitaja <keevitaja!~keevitaja@155-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[14:37:47] <keevitaja> hi, anyone using mate desktop?[14:38:18] <keevitaja> would like to know how good is the dual monitor support when using laptop with external monitor as primary[14:38:18] <Jeannie> Sometimes, yes, one of my systems still has it installed[14:38:50] <Jeannie> No dual monitors on that desktop machine though[14:38:57] <keevitaja> yeah[14:39:11] <keevitaja> xfce is giviming the creeps with this[14:39:33] <Jeannie> All other sytems run Plasma5 now here[14:40:16] <keevitaja> with dock it kinda worked. put now i plugged a second monitor into the vga hole and after system blanks monitor, the external does not come back[14:40:25] <keevitaja> it is the known issue turned out[14:43:31] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@AStrasbourg-651-1-243-110.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:46:04] <CupOfCoffee> how do i change kernels bacause i use "4.8.13-1-ARCH" and yaourt says i have 4.9.1-1 installed https://paste.pound-python.org/show/rokIMZnquWkF3ttb0YIz/[14:46:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Qlj5P4] (link was unresponsive: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/rokIMZnquWkF3ttb0YIz/)[14:49:29] <kartik> reboot[14:49:48] <kartik> everyone... reboot now and the problems will be solved[14:50:09] <Jeannie> What if I currently have no problem?[14:50:20] <kartik> u will get one[14:50:31] <Jeannie> That's what I feared[14:51:03] <CupOfCoffee> just reboot[14:51:07] <CupOfCoffee> that's it[14:51:40] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@187.64.41.41> has joined #manjaro[14:51:41] *** manjaro_mate <manjaro_mate!~manjaro-m@187.64.41.41> has joined #manjaro[14:51:44] <kartik> today three data entry operators were complaining to my boss that their systems do not work.. After a few hours i reached them and found them sitting infront of their systems. They hadnt' turned them on.[14:51:51] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@187.64.41.41> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:52:03] *** manjaro_mate <manjaro_mate!~manjaro-m@187.64.41.41> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:52:17] <kartik> FML[14:52:52] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:53:50] *** CupOfCoffee_ <CupOfCoffee_!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:53:50] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:54:16] <Jeannie> True professionals[14:54:52] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[14:55:18] <grayskull> hey[14:55:28] <grayskull> how do I can create a Live Version with my actual Manjaro installation[14:55:39] <grayskull> i would be very complained[14:55:55] <grayskull> all i need is 16GB stick[14:56:10] <grayskull> i forked a lot the actual testbuild[14:56:12] <grayskull> :-)[14:56:23] <grayskull> /dev/sdb2 211G 13G 188G 7% /[14:56:31] <grayskull> pls?[15:00:17] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[15:01:06] *** superbia1 is now known as superbia[15:03:30] *** yans <yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has joined #manjaro[15:04:00] <CupOfCoffee> i was looking in dmesg and i saw this "[ 6.124973] radeon 0000:01:00.0: Invalid PCI ROM header signature: expecting 0xaa55, got 0xffff"[15:04:11] <CupOfCoffee> is that fixable[15:04:38] *** kartik <kartik!~kartik@117.254.218.139> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:05:00] <grayskull> compiling[15:05:10] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[15:05:19] <grayskull> it will be ready in 5 minutes[15:06:27] *** Boltermor <Boltermor!~Boltermor@subscr-46-148-169-2.dhcp-docsis.net.tomkow.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:07:59] <superbia> fake chip CupOfCoffee[15:08:04] <superbia> it's common these days[15:08:14] <CupOfCoffee> oo no[15:08:23] <superbia> there's nothing to worry about[15:08:33] <superbia> your system works[15:08:42] <superbia> it using counterfiet parts is not a big deal imo[15:09:19] <CupOfCoffee> does it make to chip work worser[15:10:08] <superbia> no[15:10:43] <CupOfCoffee> oo but hate error is there a way to remove that error ;D[15:14:49] *** manjaro-web|2536 <manjaro-web|2536!ba96972e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.150.151.46> has joined #manjaro[15:16:34] *** manjaro-web|2536 <manjaro-web|2536!ba96972e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.150.151.46> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:22:58] *** Boltermor <Boltermor!~Boltermor@subscr-46-148-169-2.dhcp-docsis.net.tomkow.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:23:57] *** jacoderi <jacoderi!~lll@5.79.86.129> has joined #manjaro[15:24:13] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[15:25:22] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[15:26:52] <grayskull> Okay downloading headers.....[15:28:09] <superbia> sue intel[15:29:48] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@49.35.35.95> has joined #manjaro[15:30:28] *** jacoderi <jacoderi!~lll@5.79.86.129> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.4")[15:31:07] <CupOfCoffee> superbia its a radeon error so its my GPU[15:31:16] <manjaro-kde5> I'm removing unwanted packages from manjaro-kde. can I safely remove the softwares under development category? specifically all the qt stuff?[15:31:54] <superbia> sure[15:31:59] <superbia> remove all radeon from system[15:32:04] <superbia> intel is the best[15:32:07] <superbia> girl[15:33:07] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:33:15] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:35:49] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[15:37:15] *** mike-zal2 <mike-zal2!~michaldyb@acpw101.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:38:06] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[15:38:13] *** ToeSnacks <ToeSnacks!sid84043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfyscxahitrhwcyg> has joined #manjaro[15:39:37] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[15:40:57] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@arj253.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:41:06] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:42:26] <mike-zal2> manjaro-kde5: don't remove that, unless you want to make your kde not workable[15:42:33] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[15:42:51] <mike-zal2> qt stuff are libraries that hold most of kde desktop[15:43:54] <mike-zal2> there might be qt packages that are not important to you, only for developers, but you don't want to mess with that if you're not sure what you are doing[15:46:19] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@49.35.35.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:48:18] <CupOfCoffee> manjaro-kde5 you can hide them[15:48:27] <CupOfCoffee> that wat i always did[15:48:43] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[15:51:39] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[15:51:56] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:52:07] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[15:56:26] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:59:56] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:00:25] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[16:08:03] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-30-8.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[16:08:43] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-214-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[16:14:14] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.83.155> has joined #manjaro[16:16:14] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[16:17:39] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:20:32] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:23:23] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.83.155> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:28:55] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:30:22] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:38:19] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@AStrasbourg-651-1-243-110.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:39:31] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:40:53] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:42:38] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@c-bg-d-p1-76.bvcom.net> has joined #manjaro[16:42:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[16:43:47] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[16:45:00] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[16:45:29] * superbia is listening to Antonio Vivaldi - Violin Concerto No.07 in D minor Opus 08 (RV258) ::: http://stream2137.init7.net:80 ::: 14:45/?:?? @ 128kbps[16:45:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/lgeJNI] (link was unresponsive: http://stream2137.init7.net:80)[16:46:19] *** sacarde <sacarde!~sacarde@151.40.179.8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:47:52] *** tiddy <tiddy!~wigums@unaffiliated/wigums> has joined #manjaro[16:48:13] *** tiddy <tiddy!~wigums@unaffiliated/wigums> has left #manjaro[16:49:21] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-131-112.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:51:23] <grayskull> superbia ke tal hamiga chiflada[16:51:27] <grayskull> todo bien?[16:52:00] <grayskull> aki el puto kablemodem follando todos los paketes de tus hamigas freenodelooseras[16:52:18] <grayskull> lo siento mucho soy op tengo 15 megas xD[16:52:21] <grayskull> y mas xD[16:52:27] <grayskull> asi ke adios mierda de red[16:52:38] <grayskull> por cierto[16:52:42] <grayskull> manjaro esta de pm[16:52:51] <grayskull> pero freenode es la mierda mas grande ke cago kulo[16:52:56] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:52:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:53:39] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@ip112.ip-149-56-93.net> has quit IRC (Quit: T'EN VEUX AUSSI?)[16:56:29] <superbia> Jeannie: was that one of your friends?[17:01:57] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has joined #manjaro[17:02:02] <grayskull> xD[17:04:12] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@169-0-105-237.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:04:19] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-103-198.voxdsl.co.za> has joined #manjaro[17:04:32] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.196.36> has joined #manjaro[17:04:35] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[17:04:42] <Strit_Laptop> /away[17:05:37] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[17:11:11] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has quit IRC (Quit: simon say rehashing...)[17:11:22] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.196.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:14:09] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has joined #manjaro[17:14:19] <grayskull> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)[17:14:28] <grayskull> ¿?¿^;-=^);-¿?[17:14:31] <grayskull> xD[17:14:38] <Jeannie> Kindergarten[17:14:43] <grayskull> yezzzzzzz[17:14:44] <grayskull> D[17:14:46] <grayskull> :D[17:14:54] * grayskull hugs Jeannie[17:15:10] <grayskull> \o//o\\o/\o/[17:27:04] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[17:28:31] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@240.84.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[17:30:22] *** hagai <hagai!~hagai@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has joined #manjaro[17:30:27] <hagai> hello ?[17:30:47] <hagai> anyone ?[17:31:06] *** hagai <hagai!~hagai@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:32:54] *** mike-zal2 <mike-zal2!~michaldyb@acpw101.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:33:39] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@AStrasbourg-651-1-243-110.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[17:35:48] *** Shadowfire <Shadowfire!~Shadowfir@rrcs-97-76-114-78.se.biz.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[17:36:23] *** Pimp2Eat <Pimp2Eat!bdce38a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.206.56.163> has joined #manjaro[17:36:50] <Pimp2Eat> Hello there[17:38:14] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@gateway/tor-sasl/grayskull> has quit IRC (Quit: simon say rehashing)[17:38:14] *** Pimp2Eat <Pimp2Eat!bdce38a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.206.56.163> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:39:56] *** Pimp2Eat <Pimp2Eat!bdce38a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.206.56.163> has joined #manjaro[17:40:40] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:40:54] <Pimp2Eat> ey[17:41:03] <Shadowfire> Howdy peeps[17:41:28] <Pimp2Eat> new Manjaro user...[17:43:02] <Shadowfire> Nah.. be using Manjaro for a bit... been active on the forums. I am enjoying my experience with it so far...[17:43:07] <Shadowfire> been*[17:43:20] <Shadowfire> You?[17:43:37] <Pimp2Eat> im new using it[17:43:43] <Shadowfire> Kewl...[17:43:45] <Pimp2Eat> all good by far[17:43:53] <Shadowfire> which version you running?[17:44:08] <Pimp2Eat> i was sick of microsoft products[17:44:09] <Pimp2Eat> xfce[17:44:18] *** yans <yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has quit IRC (Quit: Alice Is Not In Wonderland)[17:44:19] <Pimp2Eat> u?[17:44:52] <Shadowfire> Almost went with xfce... but decided to do deepin at the last second :)[17:45:29] <Pimp2Eat> im downloading plasma iso too[17:45:39] <Shadowfire> Yeah... I only have Windows for my gaming needs ... other then that.. I run my box Linux for work and play...[17:46:04] <Shadowfire> I am on Linux for my own needs around 98% of the time...[17:46:31] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@catv-178-48-153-38.catv.broadband.hu> has joined #manjaro[17:46:37] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@catv-178-48-153-38.catv.broadband.hu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:46:45] <Shadowfire> I even try to stay in the linux realm for gaming if I cna help it..[17:47:16] *** Pimp2Eat <Pimp2Eat!bdce38a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.206.56.163> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:47:32] <Shadowfire> I run my business and servers off of linux as well..[17:47:50] <Shadowfire> been doing it for years[17:48:20] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[17:50:09] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:51:04] *** manjaro-web|7490 <manjaro-web|7490!51e2f118@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.226.241.24> has joined #manjaro[17:51:28] <Shadowfire> Pimp2Eat: What Microsoft OS did you transfer to linux from?[17:51:37] *** manjaro-web|7490 <manjaro-web|7490!51e2f118@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.226.241.24> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:53:07] <roch> strange question[17:53:32] <roch> I installed my first *nix on a hd in winXP days.[17:53:56] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:54:08] <roch> 2005[17:54:14] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:54:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[17:54:27] <Jeannie> Came from Win 2003 Server to linux in 2007[17:54:29] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:54:45] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:54:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[17:55:10] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:55:20] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:55:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[17:56:20] *** keevitaja <keevitaja!~keevitaja@155-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[17:59:42] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:00:41] <Shadowfire> roch, Strange.. just curious if he/she moved for Wiin XP, Win 7, Win 8, or Win 10[18:01:28] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~123@194.140.232.139> has joined #manjaro[18:01:39] <Shadowfire> roch, Saddly I know of some poor souls who are on WinXP now .. and they are always getting hacked or viruses for the web becuase of it..[18:04:15] <roch> Shadowfire, I always have some version on win somewhere, my recent is 8.1 N core,[18:04:36] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@178.128.243.17.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[18:05:18] <roch> my first *nix was DSL, then debian, then ubuntu which I grew with, had gentoo for a while,, now manjaro is king ;)[18:05:48] *** notis <notis!~notis@130.43.0.255.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:08:10] <roch> Shadowfire, can't let go of windows ?:)[18:09:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[18:09:33] * superbia is sick of #manjaro[18:09:45] * superbia asks Jeannie to leave too[18:10:00] <Shadowfire> I started on Unix on VMS and VM's.. IBM 360's and so on around 89 ... later got in to debian and slackware as my entry point back sometime around 97 or 98...[18:10:03] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[18:11:27] <Shadowfire> Of course before that .. it was Commodore 64 and IBM compatible computers...[18:12:12] <roch> I had C64 and then amiga CDTV ;)[18:12:33] <roch> CDTV with 2 additional fast ram megs and 20mB hdd[18:12:42] <Shadowfire> Ibm compatibles started XT 8Mhz 8086 - 8088 through 486 DX 50Mhz[18:13:25] <Shadowfire> Wish I still had my C64[18:13:35] <Shadowfire> They were a glourious computer[18:14:07] <roch> yes[18:14:33] <Shadowfire> It's amazing what you can do with them now... LOL[18:14:43] <roch> wonder what I would do with real C64, I think I can settle on emulators[18:14:52] <Shadowfire> You can get on the web with the C64 now[18:14:53] <Shadowfire> http://www.go4retro.com/products/64nic/[18:14:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/RYa9sL] 64NIC+ Network Card - RETRO Innovations[18:15:04] <roch> connect it to web and have www server[18:15:14] <roch> this[18:15:49] <Shadowfire> you can also twitter with it as well[18:15:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xXN1qj] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)[18:15:59] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[18:16:25] <Shadowfire> You use a program called Breadbox64[18:17:15] <roch> wonderfull world of machines[18:17:19] <Shadowfire> You can browse the web with Hyperlink 2.5e... its like using Lynix for linux[18:18:49] <Shadowfire> Another kewl thing .. if you remember if you ever had Qlink (Quantuim Link)[18:19:47] <Shadowfire> They made a QLink Reloaded that you can get on from the internet[18:19:58] *** yabbounic <yabbounic!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:20:02] <Shadowfire> http://orrtech.us/qlink/[18:20:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/x6VUTr] Qlink Reloaded[18:20:13] <Shadowfire> https://1200baud.wordpress.com/q-link-reloaded/[18:20:14] *** yabbounic is now known as yabbes_[18:20:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SE2imn] Q-Link Reloaded | 1200baud[18:20:46] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@AStrasbourg-651-1-243-110.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:20:48] <roch> there was no internet at my country at this age ;)[18:21:03] <roch> I was born in '80[18:21:11] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:21:36] <roch> I learned english with monkey island and a dictionary , lol[18:22:31] <batch> donkey kong and watching macgyver here lol :D[18:22:46] <roch> by the time interwebs got here I was already a great pirate ;)[18:23:09] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:23:11] <roch> ofc I didn't knew I was one[18:23:40] <roch> batch, is it about making a chopper with a pair boot straps, sticky tape and bamboo sticks ?[18:23:53] <batch> roch yes![18:24:01] <roch> I approve[18:24:01] *** yans <yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has joined #manjaro[18:24:04] <batch> :D[18:25:17] *** yabbes_ is now known as yabbes[18:25:36] <roch> http://www.overclock.net/a/how-to-get-the-best-sound-with-and-properly-configure-pulseaudio[18:25:37] <Botergos> [No short url] How to get the best sound with and properly configure PulseAudio - Overclock.net Community[18:25:45] <roch> I did this, amazing![18:26:31] <roch> I mean it must be, as I am partly deaf and I hear a difference ;)[18:26:40] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[18:30:59] <Shadowfire> roch: Monkey Island is a great game![18:31:19] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@93-34-113-103.ip49.fastwebnet.it> has joined #manjaro[18:31:23] <Shadowfire> batch: Macgyver... nice.. loved it[18:31:34] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as ciao[18:31:50] *** ciao is now known as ciao2[18:32:03] <batch> :D[18:33:14] *** ciao2 is now known as chkrr00k[18:34:34] *** chkrr00k <chkrr00k!~manjaro-k@93-34-113-103.ip49.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:42:13] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-7.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[18:44:00] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@24-241-113-193.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:45:51] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:46:05] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:51:24] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:53:10] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znopeawjkczffvee> has joined #manjaro[18:55:42] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[18:56:51] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has joined #manjaro[18:59:39] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[19:01:10] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:04:12] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@67.54.222.53> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:04:20] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@user-24-214-162-194.knology.net> has joined #manjaro[19:10:33] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[19:12:33] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@user-24-214-162-194.knology.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:14:40] *** killown <killown!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[19:17:40] *** killown <killown!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:17:52] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:18:21] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[19:18:27] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has left #manjaro[19:20:58] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@24-241-113-193.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:22:54] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-128-98.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:23:55] *** nielsk <nielsk!nielsk@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-lnrhvxiykdtbxbfr> has joined #manjaro[19:24:29] *** Fingli <Fingli!~Fingli@unaffiliated/fingli> has joined #manjaro[19:24:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fingli[19:25:54] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has joined #manjaro[19:28:03] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-128-98.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:29:57] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[19:32:26] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-76-69-115.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:35:40] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-7.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:38:01] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[19:39:31] *** kartik <kartik!~kartik@117.254.219.201> has joined #manjaro[19:39:54] <kartik> Hi, how do i remove an installed kernel and get the entries removed from grub as well?[19:40:03] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~123@194.140.232.139> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:40:42] <kartik> I used manjaro settings manager to installed couple of kernels and they show in grub. Now i want to remove those but when i do so from the settings manager, the grub entries are not removed. How do i remove those as well?[19:41:23] <roch> kartik, update-grub[19:41:32] <Fingli> yes try : update-grub[19:42:25] <roch> do as Fingli says[19:45:30] <kartik> ok done[19:45:53] <kartik> how much difference is between 3.12 kernel and 4.9 kernel in terms of performance?[19:46:06] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has joined #manjaro[19:48:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@240.84.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:48:51] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@46.197.81.69> has joined #manjaro[19:49:24] *** kartik <kartik!~kartik@117.254.219.201> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:49:48] *** manjaro-web|8074 <manjaro-web|8074!5dc4b516@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.196.181.22> has joined #manjaro[19:50:07] *** manjaro-web|8074 <manjaro-web|8074!5dc4b516@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.196.181.22> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:50:23] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:50:23] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[19:50:30] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:57:46] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@46.197.81.69> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:58:18] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@ip112.ip-149-56-93.net> has joined #manjaro[19:59:45] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:02:15] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[20:02:27] <LissajousPattern> o/[20:02:42] <roch> \o[20:02:53] <LissajousPattern> how goes it?[20:03:15] *** grayskull <grayskull!~grayskull@ip112.ip-149-56-93.net> has left #manjaro[20:04:21] <roch> I am fighting wiht ranger preview of password protected archives, and now go to walk a dog, -19°C outside.[20:05:09] <LissajousPattern> nice[20:05:41] *** manjaro-web|3003 <manjaro-web|3003!3e2545d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.37.69.217> has joined #manjaro[20:05:52] <roch> correction, -22°C now,[20:06:07] <LissajousPattern> thats pretty cold[20:06:41] <LissajousPattern> is it snowing[20:07:07] <manjaro-web|3003> hello!, Iḿ a newer user of manjaro. I like to install insync but I don find how to do it. Can someone help me? I prefer in Spanish but in English I can do it too. Thanks.[20:07:08] <roch> nope , brb ;)[20:07:09] <Fingli> roch, the temperature falls quickly there fron -19 to -21 in seconds :)[20:07:29] <roch> Fingli, checked google , then thermometer outside; )[20:08:28] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[20:09:40] *** ArcticNano <ArcticNano!47534e9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.83.78.156> has joined #manjaro[20:10:19] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[20:10:24] <ArcticNano> hello?[20:10:37] <TheGoose_> How do I list which commands/programs start at boot?[20:11:38] <ArcticNano> you can make a bash script or find it through the manjaro settings[20:11:51] <ArcticNano> itll say applications to start on boot[20:11:56] <TheGoose_> I think I got it[20:12:00] <TheGoose_> thanks![20:12:14] <ArcticNano> your welcome ![20:12:30] <ArcticNano> anyways whats up? im new to this manjaro. i came from kali linux[20:12:39] <ArcticNano> kali was my first distro[20:12:50] <TheGoose_> Yeah im rather new to Manjaro too, from debian[20:12:59] *** Not_A_Skid <Not_A_Skid!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[20:13:01] <TheGoose_> Never used kali since it never really applied to me[20:13:15] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@180.234.160.119> has joined #manjaro[20:13:23] <ArcticNano> kali is based off of debian[20:13:24] <Not_A_Skid> whats kali?[20:13:35] <manjaro> kali ?[20:13:39] <ArcticNano> its a distro for security pentesting[20:13:45] <TheGoose_> Kali Linux, a distro for pen testing[20:13:45] <ArcticNano> like hacking and what not[20:14:03] <Not_A_Skid> do you have certs[20:14:04] <TheGoose_> Never made sense as a daily imo, but idk much about it[20:14:27] <TheGoose_> wtf why wont my damn ncmpcpp visualizer change?[20:14:27] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-76-69-115.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:14:29] *** manjaro is now known as emran[20:14:58] <ArcticNano> it has all of the latest and up to date tools. plus its a rolling version. and its the only thing that worked with my driver for linux because ubuntu didnt work. so kali was my first distro. taught me alot about linux though[20:15:14] <ArcticNano> and your wot[20:15:32] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-31-1-229-98.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:15:54] *** emran <emran!~manjaro@180.234.160.119> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:16:00] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@p4FF66C5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:16:04] <manjaro-web|3003> I came from linux mint mate and in it insync could be installed from sinaptic[20:16:20] <Not_A_Skid> i used to use kali but meh[20:16:25] <TheGoose_> Dude this KDE connect this is amazing[20:16:30] *** manjaroDeepin01 <manjaroDeepin01!67dc14de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.103.220.20.222> has joined #manjaro[20:16:47] <manjaroDeepin01> heya[20:16:53] <TheGoose_> yo[20:17:09] <manjaroDeepin01> need little help[20:17:23] <manjaroDeepin01> facing a weird issue on manjaro deepin spin[20:17:41] <ArcticNano> i hate kde[20:17:44] <Not_A_Skid> what seems to be the problem[20:17:45] <ArcticNano> xfce forever[20:17:48] <TheGoose_> ArcticNano: why?[20:17:50] <manjaroDeepin01> icons disappears when i right click on desktop[20:17:52] <TheGoose_> I really like it[20:17:57] <manjaroDeepin01> m on Deepin[20:17:59] <manjaroDeepin01> not kds[20:18:02] <manjaroDeepin01> kde*[20:18:09] <TheGoose_> Yeah he was talking to me[20:18:09] <ArcticNano> because every disrto that has had it for me has like lag out of the ass[20:18:34] <TheGoose_> Oh, yeah not me. It sucked last time I tried. But I tried beta plasma build so[20:18:37] <TheGoose_> really nice this time[20:18:43] <manjaroDeepin01> any idea>[20:18:47] <manjaroDeepin01> or solution?[20:18:55] <manjaroDeepin01> to fix that icon disappearing[20:20:04] <ArcticNano> the firewall app they have on manjaro is ass too and i tried it and i just didnt like how choppy it looked[20:21:18] <manjaroDeepin01> ...[20:21:29] <ArcticNano> what are you talking about?[20:21:40] <ArcticNano> its probably your kernal[20:21:42] <ArcticNano> check it[20:21:56] <ArcticNano> find ones that it recommends for you[20:22:14] <ArcticNano> the newer kernals are seeming to brick peoples devices[20:22:14] <manjaroDeepin01> facing issue after installing latest updates[20:22:26] <ArcticNano> yes go check your kernal[20:22:32] <manjaroDeepin01> nope, i tried reinstalling[20:22:49] <ArcticNano> then its your pc not working right with manjaro[20:23:00] <manjaroDeepin01> and avoided all possible updates like kernel,deeping desktop/dock etc which could be the reason imo[20:23:06] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[20:23:08] <manjaroDeepin01> but still faced that issue[20:23:20] <ArcticNano> hmm idk then[20:23:30] <manjaroDeepin01> i installed manjaro like 10 times since yesterday lol[20:23:45] <manjaroDeepin01> TheGoose left because of it lol[20:23:55] <ArcticNano> he left becaise why>[20:23:56] <ArcticNano> ?[20:24:06] <manjaroDeepin01> jk.[20:24:21] <manjaroDeepin01> you running xfce?[20:24:26] <ArcticNano> yesss[20:24:40] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@p200300C24BC18231F448B225FF57F92B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:24:40] <manjaroDeepin01> with latest updates installed? any issues?[20:25:01] <ArcticNano> yes and none issues[20:25:04] <manjaroDeepin01> thinking to install xfce now lol[20:25:07] <ArcticNano> i didnt change the kernals[20:25:13] <ArcticNano> either[20:25:23] <ArcticNano> xfce is just do dang goodie[20:25:28] <manjaroDeepin01> which kernel are you running right now?[20:25:41] <manjaroDeepin01> 4.4.39?[20:26:01] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[20:26:19] *** manjaro-web|3003 <manjaro-web|3003!3e2545d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.37.69.217> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:26:39] <ArcticNano> 4.4.39[20:27:06] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@217.23.5.224> has joined #manjaro[20:27:07] <ArcticNano> i heard manjaro was having problems but still gave it a chance and im probably not gonna leave it[20:27:17] <manjaroDeepin01> what kinda?[20:27:38] <ArcticNano> devices getting stuck in boot loops after updates and stuff like that[20:27:54] <manjaroDeepin01> maybe due to 4.8 kernel[20:28:05] <manjaroDeepin01> 4.8 is having issues[20:28:50] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@p200300C24BC18231F448B225FF57F92B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:28:51] <manjaroDeepin01> so either stick to 4.4 or go with 4.9. i tried 4.9, it ducked up my grub and windows loader disappeared from grub lol[20:29:06] <manjaroDeepin01> grub menu*[20:29:38] <manjaroDeepin01> *perks of dual booting*[20:29:49] <ArcticNano> the only thing i need to work on is my commands with pacman and yaourt[20:30:11] <ArcticNano> and i deleted windows for kali when i knew nothing about linux[20:30:16] <ArcticNano> didnt even know a single command[20:30:39] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@p2E53FBA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:30:52] <ArcticNano> i remember when i couldnt even understand what cd /etc/ettercap/ means[20:31:21] <manjaroDeepin01> i've kept windows for some exceptional cases[20:34:16] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@217.23.5.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:34:52] <ArcticNano> like what?[20:34:55] <ArcticNano> games?[20:34:57] <ArcticNano> lol[20:35:05] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@p2E53FBA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:35:09] <ArcticNano> i just play daggerfall and arena[20:35:20] <manjaroDeepin01> neah[20:35:31] <manjaroDeepin01> dont get much time to play any game[20:35:31] <ArcticNano> gotta reboot my system ill be right back. like 1 min[20:35:41] <ArcticNano> same dude[20:35:46] <ArcticNano> school and just life[20:35:56] <manjaroDeepin01> college life about to over lol[20:36:56] *** ArcticNano <ArcticNano!47534e9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.83.78.156> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:39:11] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:39:55] *** manjaroDeepin01 <manjaroDeepin01!67dc14de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.103.220.20.222> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:40:29] *** ArcticNano <ArcticNano!47534e9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.83.78.156> has joined #manjaro[20:40:43] <ArcticNano> im back[20:41:10] *** ArticMicroLOL <ArticMicroLOL!67dc14de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.103.220.20.222> has joined #manjaro[20:41:22] *** NolanSyKinsley 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<manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@169-1-177-125.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[23:09:10] <manjaro-kde5> Is it possible to install Manjaro KDE onto a USB thumb drive ?[23:10:15] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@213-240-108-95.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[23:10:50] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> manjaro-kde5: yes. But how idk[23:11:49] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Btw if you use kde you may need more then the 8gib advised[23:12:24] <manjaro-kde5> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: okey yeah i think i can get a larger usb drive[23:13:05] <manjaro-kde5> But like plug in an a second usb drive and just installing onto that one with the installer would do the trick maybe?[23:13:15] <manjaro-kde5> Never used Manjaro before[23:13:31] <manjaro-kde5> But i've tried lots of other distros[23:13:55] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I thought there was a special program for that[23:14:06] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-078-043-072-214.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC ()[23:14:10] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Let me google w8 a sec[23:14:23] <manjaro-kde5> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: oh okey, hmm it's hard to find any info on this topic it seems[23:15:53] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[23:15:54] *** onlycheri <onlycheri!~onlycheri@231.red-81-39-115.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[23:16:15] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dcu74.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:16:16] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> manjaro-kde5: I was actually looking for the same think I would give this a read http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Install-a-Linux-OS-in-your-USB-Flash-Drive-/[23:16:47] *** onlycheri <onlycheri!~onlycheri@231.red-81-39-115.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:16:58] *** yans_ <yans_!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has quit IRC (Quit: Alice Is Not In Wonderland)[23:19:31] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[23:20:52] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> This one to http://askubuntu.com/questions/170454/can-i-install-ubuntu-to-my-32-gb-usb-pen-drive[23:20:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ixe3Lz] persistent - Can I install Ubuntu to my 32 GB USB pen drive? - Ask Ubuntu[23:22:41] *** israuor <israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:26:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:b7e5:3d49:e481:b0e4> has joined #manjaro[23:26:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:b7e5:3d49:e481:b0e4> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:26:32] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[23:26:49] *** rustyraptor <rustyraptor!1831a229@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.49.162.41> has joined #manjaro[23:26:54] <manjaro-kde5> CupOfCoffee-IPAD: thank you![23:28:20] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Np[23:29:17] <TheGoose_> Anyone here know where qt themes are stored in KDE?[23:29:44] <rustyraptor> Hi anyone good with networking available? I am trying to set up manjaro to share it's wifi internet with my ubuntu server through a direct Ethernet connection. So far I made a new Ethernet profile and set it to 'share to other computers' and now the server can ping google.com but it doesn't get anything in return.[23:30:44] <rustyraptor> the server has an old xmedia PCI wireless adapter I am trying to get working too.[23:31:51] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[23:34:09] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znopeawjkczffvee> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:34:42] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@customer-185-81-109-209.stosn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:35:38] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Ragequit)[23:38:03] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[23:39:57] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:44:27] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:44:43] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has joined #manjaro[23:44:46] <sponge> Hello[23:45:36] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.63.249.229> has joined #manjaro[23:46:07] <rhg135> TheGoose_: where they usually are, no? that'd be /usr/share/themes[23:46:12] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:46:14] <sponge> I tried installing pdftk, and yauort is installing gcc-cgj-ecj for half an hour now. Optimizing it and killing my cpu (95C). Is there a safe way to abort yauort??[23:46:27] <rhg135> anyway, good afternoon[23:46:33] <TheGoose_> rhg135: thanks![23:46:46] <rhg135> SIGINT aka ^+Z[23:47:23] <rhg135> that'll pause most apps and let your cpu cool till you restart it[23:47:39] <rhg135> with `fg` or `bg`[23:47:56] <rhg135> very handy[23:48:22] <sponge> ^+Z= ctrl+z?[23:49:23] <rhg135> yes[23:50:13] <sponge> it doesn't do anything.. Should I press enter after ^+Z?[23:50:43] <rhg135> hmm[23:50:50] <rhg135> no[23:51:08] <rhg135> it works fine for me[23:51:14] <sponge> It seems that the terminal continues to compile or something[23:51:44] <rhg135> and you can always kill except if you are installing[23:51:53] <sponge> I am installing...[23:52:06] <sponge> That's why I hoped for a nicer way to kill/pause[23:52:12] <rhg135> as in installing the package[23:52:15] <sponge> ./abort[23:52:29] <rhg135> then why is the cpu so high??[23:52:52] <sponge> because it's trying to optimise something for about 45 minutes[23:53:02] <sponge> and it writes lots of text..[23:53:35] <rhg135> you can kill it safely until it tries to install the package[23:54:19] <sponge> It already started installing the package and now it's in the optimization mode of setting this package. I don't know what to do.[23:54:29] <rhg135> ah[23:54:37] <rhg135> then idk, sorry[23:55:49] <sponge> ok, thanks[23:57:13] <sponge> Anyone else has any idea how to stop yauort during installation in order to prevent if from killing the CPU?[23:57:41] <bonvx> sorry I'm just a random newbiee[23:57:48] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@220-253-29-177.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[23:58:10] <sponge> Oh, it seemed that I aborted the install. I wonder if it will break something[23:58:13] <rhg135> my only suggestion is that if you have a fan, use it[23:59:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:2149:8410:2401:b420:5782:633d:aead> has joined #manjaro[23:59:42] <sponge> Yeah, I sometimes try to use an outside fan. But it can hardly help with 95C