January 5, 2017 
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January 5, 2017 [00:00:09] <tripout> windknopw, i'm trying now to fix budgie via manjaro-chroot update and graphics driver update while downloading the iso[00:00:43] <tripout> 600MB update download size oO[00:00:52] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:02:39] <tripout> maybe it'll be a lucky hit and i can save a reinstallation and stuff[00:07:32] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[00:08:36] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:08:50] <windknopw> good luck![00:09:02] *** rhg136 <rhg136!6cab84aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.171.132.170> has joined #manjaro[00:09:51] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has joined #manjaro[00:09:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[00:10:18] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:11:18] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:11:42] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:13:38] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@169-1-177-98.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[00:13:56] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@169-1-177-98.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:16:05] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:17:03] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@77.49.154.33.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:19:15] <rhg136> decent afternoon[00:23:30] *** windknopw <windknopw!~manjaro-i@pD9FD496D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[00:23:52] *** windknopw <windknopw!~manjaro-i@pD9FD496D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[00:30:03] *** sega <sega!~manjaro-k@cable-178-149-89-206.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:36:55] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:39:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:39:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:39:39] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[00:40:05] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has joined #manjaro[00:40:05] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uqjupevbmeosquvb> has joined #manjaro[00:40:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[00:40:45] <b0n> my keyboard is no longer backlit :( how do i fix dis[00:41:12] <bugzbunny> :-p[00:41:24] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:45:31] <rhg136> get new hw is how I fixed it :P[00:45:47] <b0n> it was working in 4.4 >.>[00:45:54] <rhg136> ah[00:46:04] <b0n> the keyboard isnt the problem i dont think[00:46:37] <b0n> i found this[00:46:40] <b0n> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_backlight[00:46:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/g1hnZq] Keyboard backlight - ArchWiki[00:46:55] <b0n> but it just says..[00:46:57] <b0n> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.UPower.KbdBacklight' on object at path /org/freedesktop/UPower/KbdBacklight[00:47:01] <b0n> when i try to run it..[00:47:45] <rhg136> hmm[00:48:21] <b0n> i do know python and from what im seeing it looks like the dbus library ihave doesnt have the "KdbBacklight"[00:48:23] <windknopw> you installed another window manager or experiments like that?[00:48:31] <b0n> just xfce[00:48:42] <rhg136> try downgrading upower?[00:48:42] <b0n> i may have installed i3 but ive never used it[00:49:04] <windknopw> i had such problems when i installed deepin to my xfce . some things went messed up.[00:49:30] <b0n> i could reboot into 4.4 and see if it works there[00:49:38] <b0n> im pretty sure it worked there..[00:49:40] <windknopw> as long as you did not install manjaro-i3-settings, its allright[00:49:59] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[00:50:16] <b0n> yea, dont have that[00:50:45] <b0n> i have to hack away at the xfce config to scale things properly on my surface pro 3, i dont see how that would mess with the keyboard tho[00:51:14] <b0n> ill be back, gonna check somethin[00:51:27] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:52:01] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:52:20] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@72.173.168.77> has joined #manjaro[00:52:22] <b0n> hmm. when the laptop turns on it used to illuminate the keyboard briefly[00:52:27] <b0n> it doesnt now.[00:53:17] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~m@digital238.sa-mte.com> has joined #manjaro[00:53:43] <b0n> odd..[00:54:05] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:54:09] <windknopw> hmm[00:54:45] <windknopw> could it be a hardware problem?[00:54:49] <b0n> i did get hit by a car with the laptop in my bag recently. i know the keyboard got damaged a bit but the lights did work[00:54:55] <b0n> maybe they just finally fizzled out and died lol[00:55:11] * rhg136 start whispering 'hw'[00:55:14] <windknopw> uhh that sounds like a reason[00:55:30] <b0n> id feel awkward going to best buy and plugging my surface into one of their keyboards to see if it illuminated >.>[00:55:50] <windknopw> :D[00:56:15] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~m@digital238.sa-mte.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:56:21] <windknopw> but i guess when it stopped blinking at start and everything else is fine, then its the keys[00:56:21] <b0n> yea its probably the keyboard. im looking to get a new one..but i cant import the one i want from south korea so.. i have to GO to Seoul[00:57:13] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[00:57:35] <b0n> i bought two extra keyboards but they ended up being french..[00:58:36] <windknopw> sacre bleu[00:58:55] <b0n> right? guess im stuck with this for now lol[00:59:09] <windknopw> with dark keys... welcome to my world :D[01:01:25] *** HeyCitizen <HeyCitizen!~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-01-70-51-191-223.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:01:34] <b0n> :([01:03:19] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:03:20] <windknopw> it could be worse... ask the budgieman. he has an ancient connection speed and has a screen, which is so illuminated, its just white. too much illumination isnt good also.[01:03:40] *** HeyCitizen <HeyCitizen!~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-01-70-51-191-223.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:04:09] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-222-105-139.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:05:26] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[01:09:54] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-222-105-139.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:10:47] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@62-46-158-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:12:30] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:16:45] *** godless <godless!~godless@209.29.22.57> has joined #manjaro[01:16:56] *** godless <godless!~godless@209.29.22.57> has left #manjaro[01:19:49] *** godless <godless!~godless@209.29.22.57> has joined #manjaro[01:20:00] *** godless <godless!~godless@209.29.22.57> has left #manjaro[01:20:16] *** Solar_Sails <Solar_Sails!~Solaris@d-216-36-29-104.cpe.metrocast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:20:26] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:21:10] <Solar_Sails> Hello, I am having an issue with virt manager not having permissions to the KVM kernel modules. Anyone know how to fix this? https://u.teknik.io/xumSR.png[01:21:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eIMrLD] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[01:24:52] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:53] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:26:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:26:45] *** Solar_Sails <Solar_Sails!~Solaris@d-216-36-29-104.cpe.metrocast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:27:12] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[01:29:47] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:37:39] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[01:38:54] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has 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<king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Back to Work)[02:23:20] *** danbeard <danbeard!d8104006@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.16.64.6> has joined #manjaro[02:23:38] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@75-135-34-60.dhcp.krny.ne.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[02:23:47] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@189-31-124-18.fnses700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has joined #manjaro[02:23:59] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@189-31-124-18.fnses700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has left #manjaro[02:24:10] *** manjaro-web|8443 <manjaro-web|8443!31cf81ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.207.129.174> has joined #manjaro[02:24:37] <danbeard> howdy[02:24:44] <manjaro-web|8443> hi, how do i install apk file in manjaro?[02:25:15] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@75-135-34-60.dhcp.krny.ne.charter.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:25:19] <rhg136> you don't[02:25:31] *** danbeard 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<Matombo!~Matombo@p579905F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:46:22] <johnvan> H@wkm00n[02:46:31] <LordShadowWing> Hello everyone[02:46:51] <rhg136> yo[02:47:15] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:48:55] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[02:48:56] *** tripout <tripout!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:48:59] *** aspekt00 <aspekt00!~diegouy00@r167-56-12-105.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:51:40] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:56:22] <LordShadowWing> WTF does make: *** [Makefile:46: sub-src-make_first] Error 2 mean[02:58:18] <d42> it means exactly what it says :^)[02:59:03] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@na-200-78-207-90.static.avantel.net.mx> has joined #manjaro[03:00:20] 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distro on my work laptop, a Dell Latitude E4310[11:36:38] <siapran> I've ran into a series of wall I've tried to bring down or bypass[11:37:04] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@217.23.7.165> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:37:23] <siapran> including but not limited to: BIOS/firmware updates, RAM problems, usb drive failure[11:37:58] <siapran> I've finally come to a point where the live usb doesn't outright kernel panic before even finishing booting[11:38:33] <siapran> and now, as soon as the installer comes to the point of formatting the disk, the computer restarts without any kind of warning[11:38:54] <siapran> I'm starting to question my own sanity[11:41:27] <zero-ghost> what distros have you tried?[11:41:36] <zero-ghost> can you set that laptop to legacy boot?[11:41:40] <zero-ghost> no UEFI[11:41:45] <siapran> debian-xfce, manjaro, xubuntu, ubuntu[11:41:57] <siapran> the laptop boots in legacy mode yes[11:42:09] <zero-ghost> have you tried booting and installing from legacy mode[11:42:15] <siapran> yes[11:42:22] <zero-ghost> what happens with that[11:42:31] <siapran> exactly what I described[11:42:57] <zero-ghost> what ISO of manjaro are you using?[11:43:23] <siapran> manjaro-xfce-16.10.3-stable-x86_64[11:44:19] <zero-ghost> how did you write that ISO to your usb?[11:44:23] <siapran> dd[11:44:49] <zero-ghost> the live cd boots and works fine?[11:44:52] <siapran> the live usb boots fine now[11:45:16] <siapran> it used to kernel panic when I had 8GB of RAM on my laptop[11:45:24] <siapran> it works fine with 4GB for some reason[11:45:34] <siapran> all the other distros failed with 8 too[11:45:45] <zero-ghost> that sounds really weird[11:45:46] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:45:47] <siapran> ikr[11:46:22] <zero-ghost> have you tried using gparted first to give the hard drive a clean partition table[11:46:24] <siapran> I've been trying everything for the last three days[11:46:27] <zero-ghost> then go through the installer[11:46:29] <siapran> yes[11:46:31] <siapran> twice[11:46:37] <zero-ghost> how do you do partitions[11:47:28] <siapran> I've got a 250 ssd, I made three partitions, 40GB for /, 200 GB for /home, the leftovers as swap[11:48:00] <zero-ghost> you dont use encryption?[11:48:02] <siapran> no[11:48:12] <zero-ghost> maybe try making a serparate /boot anyway[11:48:35] <zero-ghost> are you using GUID table or MBR?[11:48:41] <siapran> I'm not sure how that would help since it doesn't even get past the installation part[11:48:53] <siapran> MBR[11:49:03] <zero-ghost> did you try with GUID?[11:49:09] <siapran> no[11:49:25] <zero-ghost> does it ever start installing?[11:49:29] <siapran> no[11:49:35] <zero-ghost> where exactly does it crash[11:49:41] <siapran> as soon as it doesn the laptop reboots[11:49:51] <siapran> on every distro[11:50:23] <siapran> as soon as it reaches the installation stage[11:50:27] <zero-ghost> can you format the ssd to an ext4 and just write some data to it?[11:50:44] <siapran> I'll try that in a VM[11:51:01] <zero-ghost> sounds like the ssd is locked or read only or something and when the installer needs to write to it it cant so it crashes[11:51:13] *** ok91 <ok91!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/ok91> has joined #manjaro[11:51:23] <siapran> that could make sense[11:51:29] <siapran> i'll try that[11:51:30] *** zshfu_ <zshfu_!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[11:51:37] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@81.171.75.186> has joined #manjaro[11:51:40] <zero-ghost> you can find a spare usb drive and install to that as a test also[11:51:55] *** alekos <alekos!4f81f82f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.129.248.47> has joined #manjaro[11:52:16] *** alekos <alekos!4f81f82f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.129.248.47> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:52:43] <siapran> why would the whole computer reboot though[11:52:57] <siapran> like suddenly blackscreen and reboot[11:54:01] <zero-ghost> if the drive is locked or read-only in someway the installer doesnt understand it has no way to cleanly stop trying to write to it[11:54:10] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:54:11] <zero-ghost> and possibly that could crash the whole system[11:54:18] <zero-ghost> i dont know im not one the experts here[11:54:26] <zero-ghost> these are all just trial and error things from me[11:54:55] <siapran> ok, I managed to write a file into it in my debian VM[11:55:08] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.5.225> has joined #manjaro[11:55:38] <zero-ghost> i dont know if a vm is the best way, to be absolutely sure i would say try formatting the entire drive from the manjaro live cd[11:55:45] <zero-ghost> and writing things to it from there[11:55:54] <siapran> ok[11:56:03] <zero-ghost> because thats where the installer is going to be running from[11:56:11] <zero-ghost> you are using the full drive right?[11:56:15] <siapran> yes[11:56:15] <zero-ghost> this isnt a dual boot or anything?[11:56:19] <siapran> no[11:56:41] <siapran> which also means I have to disassemble the laptop for the 30th time this week[11:56:52] <siapran> to remove a stick of ram and exchange the drives[11:56:53] <zero-ghost> why do you have to do that?[11:57:05] <zero-ghost> ah yea[11:57:20] <siapran> because windows greets me with a nice BSOD if I boot with a missing RAM stick[11:57:32] <zero-ghost> and you said this computer is a very new model?[11:57:38] <siapran> not at all[11:57:45] <zero-ghost> oh thought thats what i read[11:57:51] <siapran> it's a Dell Latitude E4310[11:58:01] <siapran> it's like from 2011?[11:58:03] <siapran> iirc[11:58:07] <zero-ghost> then its even weirder why things dont just work easily[11:58:18] <siapran> I wish I knew[11:58:53] <siapran> this is the first time a computer gives me this much trouble[11:58:54] <siapran> ever[11:59:32] <siapran> my collegues don't know what the hemll is going on either[11:59:35] <siapran> *hell[12:02:14] <zero-ghost> yea very weird[12:03:29] <zero-ghost> what about installing to an HDD[12:06:19] *** Askannz <Askannz!~Askannz@118.200.155.76> has joined #manjaro[12:08:00] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@203-7-1-67.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:10:31] <siapran> I don't have one avalable[12:13:42] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs393280.centertel.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:14:07] *** ok91 <ok91!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/ok91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:15:06] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:15:17] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:16:34] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:18:07] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@pD9FD4A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:18:55] *** xeirrr <xeirrr!~lee@unaffiliated/xeirrr> has joined #manjaro[12:19:31] <xeirrr> anyone here use manjaro bspwm spin? what's the panel name?[12:19:32] *** manjaroi3_ is now known as windbox[12:19:57] <windbox> hey hey, anybody using manjaro i3 ? I think i like it very much[12:20:02] <xeirrr> it looks like bmpanel, i am not sure.[12:20:19] *** andromeda <andromeda!4fea43b8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.234.67.184> has joined #manjaro[12:24:46] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[12:24:59] *** siapran <siapran!~siapran@92.103.5.108> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:26:12] *** andromeda <andromeda!4fea43b8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.234.67.184> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:26:14] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@201.162.72.149> has joined #manjaro[12:29:08] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:29:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@105.108.210.182> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:29:52] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@105.108.210.182> has joined #manjaro[12:34:24] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@201.162.72.149> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:38:22] *** ok91 <ok91!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/ok91> has joined #manjaro[12:40:07] *** manjaro-web|5703 <manjaro-web|5703!4fea5fb2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.234.95.178> has joined #manjaro[12:42:08] *** _thelion1 <_thelion1!~Matthias@188-23-172-119.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[12:45:10] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-122-127.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:49:18] <thid> i3 is boring[12:49:32] <thid> openbox, qtile, dde[12:49:43] <thid> aspeciali qtile is awesome[12:52:35] <windbox> i like it. have installed it with openbox[12:52:47] <windbox> never tried qtile[12:52:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@105.108.210.182> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:53:21] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@105.108.210.182> has joined #manjaro[12:53:35] <windbox> but im lazy too, just want a little modding and then everything to run for audio production[12:54:19] <windbox> i think the guy who made the manjaro i3 edition did a good job[12:54:40] <thid> don't have qtile ss but once I get home I can show u[12:54:55] *** ok91 <ok91!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/ok91> has quit IRC (Quit: ok91)[12:54:59] <windbox> allright[12:55:43] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:43] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** tme <tme!tme@hehz.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** davic <davic!~davic@unaffiliated/davic> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** Asterisk <Asterisk!~asterisk@unaffiliated/asterisk> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** brutus <brutus!~brutus@108.61.164.217> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** Matrix89 <Matrix89!~Matrix89@51.254.25.18> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:44] *** sentriz <sentriz!~Senan@unaffiliated/sentriz> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[12:55:53] *** tme <tme!tme@hehz.net> has joined #manjaro[12:56:02] *** brutus <brutus!~brutus@108.61.164.217> has joined #manjaro[12:56:06] *** Matrix89 <Matrix89!~Matrix89@51.254.25.18> has joined #manjaro[12:56:09] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[12:56:25] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:56:32] *** Asterisk <Asterisk!~asterisk@69.195.134.172> has joined #manjaro[12:56:53] *** ringos <ringos!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[12:56:55] *** davic <davic!~davic@unaffiliated/davic> has joined #manjaro[12:56:58] *** Asterisk <Asterisk!~asterisk@69.195.134.172> has quit IRC (Changing host)[12:56:58] *** Asterisk <Asterisk!~asterisk@unaffiliated/asterisk> has joined #manjaro[12:57:33] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:58:00] *** Vici <Vici!~DolceVici@apn-37-248-167-192.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:58:33] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Back to Work)[12:58:55] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:01:42] *** rnydam <rnydam!~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC ()[13:04:37] <Vici> Hello I'm having a problem instaling Slimjet. I'm completely new to Linux. Here is some text from the terminal [robert@r123 ~]$ cd /home/robert/downloads/slimjet bash: cd: /home/robert/downloads/slimjet: No such file or directory [robert@r123 ~]$ cd /home/robert/Downloads/slimjet [robert@r123 slimjet]$ sudo ./flashpeak-slimjet [sudo] password for robert: [1:1:0105/092207:ERROR:nacl_fork_delegate_linux.cc(315)] Bad NaCl helper start[13:04:47] <Vici> Any suggestions?[13:05:56] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[13:06:25] *** rnydam <rnydam!~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[13:07:52] <negen_> slimjet is a webbrowser right ?[13:07:57] <negen_> shouldn't it be in aur ?[13:08:36] <negen_> Vici, did you try yaourt -S slimjet ?[13:09:26] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has joined #manjaro[13:10:15] *** D3mian <D3mian!~dcarron@181.88.178.117> has joined #manjaro[13:10:45] *** manjaroi3 is now known as SpaceMan[13:11:14] *** SpaceMan is now known as SpaceManSparrow[13:11:16] *** zshfu_ is now known as zshfu[13:14:14] <SpaceManSparrow> this is a big room[13:15:20] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has joined #manjaro[13:15:22] <sponge> Hello[13:15:37] <windbox> it's a big world we're living in too[13:15:54] <SpaceManSparrow> :O[13:16:21] *** Vici <Vici!~DolceVici@apn-37-248-167-192.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:16:32] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.5.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:17:11] <windbox> hello sponge, isn't it a spongy day today?[13:17:52] <sponge> It has been like that for several days :)[13:18:44] <sponge> I read manjaro news post regarding the openvpn update. It says "Take special care if you depend on VPN[13:18:44] <sponge> connectivity for remote access" - Does that mean that I should only move the files if I'm using 'VPN[13:18:45] <sponge> connectivity for remote access'? Otherwise I can just update without moving the files?[13:18:51] <windbox> so 2017 is the year of the sponge?[13:19:32] <sponge> They're saying it's the year of the sponge, but I've read somewhere that the year of the sponge has already arrived. What is your opinion on this matter?[13:25:35] <negen_> probably best to ask that vpn question in the forum[13:26:09] <negen_> I use a vpn but set it in my router so the configuration is not local[13:26:13] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:26:16] <windbox> well i feel a little spongy too... must be the age of sponginess[13:26:33] *** hai <hai!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:26:47] <manjaro-web|5703> Hey. Didn't Manjaro once have the ability to quickly download+install custom UI skins/styles from within the appearance options menu?[13:27:01] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:28:05] <negen_> I think that you just need to move the config files to the sub directories after the update but I would back up your config files for a just in case moment if one were to arise[13:28:55] <negen_> and then stop the old systemd service and then start a new one[13:29:00] <negen_> i mean the new one[13:29:02] *** SpaceManSparrow <SpaceManSparrow!~manjaro-i@203-7-1-67.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[13:29:09] <negen_> the instructions on the news page are pretty direct and simple[13:30:18] <negen_> I wonder if i should get a new laptop or a new monitor[13:30:40] <negen_> if i get a new montior i will have to set up a kvm or some sort dual boots[13:30:45] *** ringos <ringos!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:32:21] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[13:35:48] *** ringos <ringos!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[13:40:59] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@105.108.210.182> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:41:56] *** xeirrr <xeirrr!~lee@unaffiliated/xeirrr> has left #manjaro[13:44:27] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:46:24] *** car-los <car-los!~manjaro-k@78.17.149.223> has joined #manjaro[13:46:24] *** car-los <car-los!~manjaro-k@78.17.149.223> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:46:49] *** car-los <car-los!~manjaro-k@78.17.149.223> has joined #manjaro[13:54:29] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[13:57:57] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[13:57:57] <sponge> negen_, My /etc/openvpn/ folder is empty. Should I still stop/kill systemd and then restart if after update install?[13:58:45] <negen_> I would follow the instructions listed on the news page[13:59:04] <negen_> which means that you have to have to copy your configs to the new folders that are required[13:59:28] <negen_> and start the new service either the client or the server which ever it is that you use[14:00:54] *** Askannz <Askannz!~Askannz@118.200.155.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[14:01:19] <sponge> I meant that I can't follow the direction because there are no config files in /etc/openvpn/. no files at all.[14:09:15] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~asif@27.0.123.165> has joined #manjaro[14:09:55] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:10:34] <Manj-1611-Lxqt> hello[14:10:43] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:12:20] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> 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<xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zrmxublvuuusjumu> has joined #manjaro[14:35:57] <manjaroCinnamon> i have installed manjaro on my laptop[14:36:46] <manjaroCinnamon> now if i try to play warzone glob2 or other games it just exit the game after playing 1 or 2 minutes[14:38:09] <manjaroCinnamon> what could be the reason[14:38:22] *** Askannz <Askannz!~Askannz@180.255.250.174> has joined #manjaro[14:39:49] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[14:44:00] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[14:45:38] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[14:48:51] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:49:27] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:54:14] *** manjaro-web|1085 <manjaro-web|1085!2944dd25@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.68.221.37> has joined #manjaro[14:54:50] <manjaro-web|1085> Hi Guys[14:55:32] <thid> yo[14:55:41] <manjaro-web|1085> I just update my Manjaro xfce now , but after do that no sound[14:56:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@112.red-81-33-95.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[14:56:26] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[14:56:41] *** fluffy <fluffy!7a6b7f8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.122.107.127.142> has joined #manjaro[14:56:55] <manjaro-web|1085> how can i get it back ?![14:57:08] <fluffy> hay stuped qwestion how to i do updates through teminal[14:57:39] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@112.red-81-33-95.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:58:37] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has joined #manjaro[14:58:47] <sponge> Hello[14:58:55] <manjaro-web|1085> fluffy sudo pacman -Su[14:58:59] <b0n> wait wait you guys[14:59:12] <b0n> ah, was anyone here when i talked about my keyboard not lighting up? lol[14:59:17] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@84.245.120.18> has joined #manjaro[14:59:32] <thid> ?[14:59:32] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:59:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@84.245.120.18> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:00:39] <b0n> well yesterday i was talking about how my keyboard backlight doesnt work anymore[15:00:54] <b0n> and i dont know how to fix it but.. i noticed..my caps lock key lights up[15:00:57] <b0n> of all the things[15:01:20] *** fluffy <fluffy!7a6b7f8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.122.107.127.142> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:03:04] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[15:03:06] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> manjaro-web|1085: I think it's muted[15:03:29] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@HSI-KBW-109-192-164-227.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:04:29] *** Aska32 <Aska32!~Askannz@118.200.155.76> has joined #manjaro[15:05:06] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> manjaro-web|1085 type alsamixer in the terminal and you should be able to umute it[15:07:18] <manjaro-web|1085> no its not[15:07:38] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:07:40] *** Askannz <Askannz!~Askannz@180.255.250.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:08:16] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> manjaro-web|1085: you have checked ?[15:09:08] *** hai <hai!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:09:28] <manjaro-web|1085> yes thats it https://postimg.org/image/jyt9vwj6h/[15:09:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5RKBR6] cc — Postimage.org[15:10:50] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[15:10:50] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@93.190.141.162> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:11:43] *** manjaro-web|1085 is now known as MADDA[15:12:13] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host109-145-140-69.range109-145.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[15:13:01] <MADDA> It work fine yesterday , today i just updated it[15:13:15] <windbox> ah the lightman[15:13:31] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[15:13:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[15:13:32] <windbox> so at least they left you one light?[15:13:35] <windbox> that's kind[15:13:38] <MADDA> and the right Number don't work too[15:14:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o semeion[15:14:54] *** semeion sets mode: +v ringos[15:14:56] *** semeion sets mode: +v semeion[15:14:59] *** semeion sets mode: -o semeion[15:15:00] <windbox> hey man web 1085, maybe its the wrong sound card? like S-Pdif but you want analog headphone jack sound?[15:15:03] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic[15:15:19] <windbox> its a common problem with my thinkpad[15:17:48] *** NiteRaidah <NiteRaidah!~chatzilla@2601:182:4302:e90:d777:fcab:cdde:19db> has joined #manjaro[15:17:57] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:18:14] <windbox> open alsamixer check the numbers of the soundcards, choose the right one and create a asound.conf in /etc/ with this content: defaults.ctl.card X defaults.pcm.card X defaults.timer.card X[15:18:17] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[15:18:28] <windbox> while X is the number of the soundcard you want MADDA[15:18:30] <MADDA> i tried every option on pulseaudio still no sound " speaker & headphone "[15:18:57] <windbox> create the right asound.conf and restart and you should be fine[15:19:44] <MADDA> how to do that windbox[15:19:57] <windbox> open alsamixer check the numbers of the soundcards, choose the right one and create a asound.conf in /etc/ with this content: defaults.ctl.card X defaults.pcm.card X defaults.timer.card X[15:20:13] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host109-145-140-69.range109-145.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:20:17] <windbox> while X is the number of the soundcard you want[15:20:38] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[15:21:42] <windbox> (after every X(Sound Card Number) enter a paragraph, dont know if it will work otherwise[15:22:26] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@62-46-158-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:24:01] <windbox> what does it show when you open alsamixer via terminal? if it is any digital output card and you want to get audio via speakers or headphone jack, then the wrong sound card is default for your system. the asound.conf will solve that problem then.[15:24:46] <MADDA> ok windbox this is aslamixer - where is the numbers ?? https://postimg.org/image/jyt9vwj6h/[15:24:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5RKBR6] cc — Postimage.org[15:26:00] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[15:26:08] <windbox> press F6 ---> choose Soundcard option . It shows the numbers[15:27:25] <windbox> in my case 0 is HD sound (which is choosen by default and will give me the same problem as you have) and 1 is HDA, the analog card which works.[15:29:44] <windbox> but choosing the sound card in alsamixer alone wont work.[15:30:27] <MADDA> I have HDA intel and HDA ATI HDMI[15:30:53] <windbox> i just saw on your screenshot, that pulseaudio is muted[15:31:57] <windbox> Press "M" while beeing in that alsamixer window and check sound again[15:32:11] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[15:33:12] <MADDA> yes man it's work[15:33:32] <windbox> allright, congratulations :)[15:33:41] <MADDA> thanks alot .. i don't mm meant mute[15:33:49] <windbox> wasnt that complex then[15:33:56] <windbox> welcome m[15:34:52] *** hank is now known as hank_[15:35:09] *** car-los <car-los!~manjaro-k@78.17.149.223> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:35:21] *** hank_ <hank_!549ac057@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.154.192.87> has left #manjaro[15:35:34] *** MADDA <MADDA!2944dd25@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.68.221.37> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:36:10] *** _thelion1 <_thelion1!~Matthias@188-23-172-119.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[15:38:52] <NiteRaidah> hi. I'm having an issue with getting abcde going (read: I installed from the repos and have no idea whatsoever how to set it up from its folders). can anyone help?[15:41:28] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-206-214.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[15:45:01] <Celmor> anyone here using the i3 community edition?[15:46:20] <windbox> yep i do, celmor[15:46:47] *** hank <hank!~quassel@p549AC057.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:46:53] <Celmor> do you know what the used notification daemon is called?[15:48:24] <windbox> mh no idea, but i can send messages through it in terminal via "notify-send" command[15:48:51] <Celmor> yeah, got the same with twmnd[15:50:10] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[15:51:38] <windbox> but that's not what you are looking for? maybe ask that question in the manjaro i3 forum[15:51:59] <Celmor> also interested in the dmenu donfiguration but can't really find were those are stored[15:52:29] <Celmor> what's your exec line for it? ($ grep dmenu ~/.config/i3/config )[15:53:06] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Celmor: maybe go to the irc i3 channel #i3[15:53:35] <windbox> # start program launcher[15:53:35] <windbox> bindsym $mod+d exec --no-startup-id dmenu_recency[15:53:55] *** sk1pp <sk1pp!~skipp@97-91-238-68.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:55:13] <Celmor> CupOfCoffee-IPAD, well, I'm rather interested in the manjaro community edition specific configuration[15:55:13] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p200300D363C6FA00CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:55:52] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:56:00] <CupOfCoffee> Celmor, its maybe worth a try[15:56:13] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[15:57:49] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-152-223-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:58:14] <Celmor> just wanted to use these as a starting point, I mean how am I supposed to ask about that specific notification daemon, only I got last time when asking for one was a different suggestion[16:00:32] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs393280.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:01:01] <windbox> i think i got your answer[16:01:21] <windbox> the manjaro i3 notification daemon could be : dunst[16:03:48] <Celmor> thanks[16:04:15] <Celmor> why does pkgfile not exist in the manjaro repositories?[16:04:52] <windbox> its in the aur[16:05:30] *** hank <hank!~quassel@p549AC057.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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#manjaro[17:13:52] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@179.7.84.210> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:14:26] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@179.7.84.210> has joined #manjaro[17:16:51] *** manjaro-web|6096 <manjaro-web|6096!d4e7bea7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.231.190.167> has joined #manjaro[17:17:05] <manjaro-web|6096> hola a todos feliz año[17:17:40] <manjaro-web|6096> alguien habla español aqui[17:18:45] <manjaro-web|6096> tengo un problema que no consigo actualizar un manjaro[17:19:44] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.12.229> has joined #manjaro[17:19:48] <rghvdberg> wut ?[17:20:30] <xangua> Enchiladas[17:20:48] *** israuor <israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has joined #manjaro[17:21:08] <rghvdberg> salsa tequilla[17:21:16] <rghvdberg> I'm sorry[17:21:41] <israuor> Hey guys..[17:21:53] <israuor> has anyone of you a nvidia gtx 1050ti running with manjaro ?[17:23:01] <manjaro-web|6096> tengo un manjaro awesome respin y me gusta pero el problema es que no actualiza desde que q lo instale[17:23:56] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:24:09] <manjaro-web|6096> y es algo con las llaves pgp[17:24:24] *** Amadiro <Amadiro!jonathri@dalvik.ping.uio.no> has joined #manjaro[17:24:59] <manjaro-web|6096> es la segunda vez q lo instalo y no consigo que actualice y es un manjaro antiguo[17:25:17] <tripout> i would suggest he can't update his system because of broken pgp keys after installation[17:25:36] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:45] *** manjaro-web|6096 <manjaro-web|6096!d4e7bea7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.231.190.167> has left #manjaro[17:25:57] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:26:33] *** manjaro-web|5946 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I'm complete beginner with linux, trying to install Slimjet. WThere is what I get [robert@r123 ~]$ cd /home/robert/downloads/slimjet bash: cd: /home/robert/downloads/slimjet: No such file or directory [robert@r123 ~]$ cd /home/robert/Downloads/slimjet [robert@r123 slimjet]$ sudo ./flashpeak-slimjet [sudo] password for robert: [1:1:0105/092207:ERROR:nacl_fork_delegate_linu[18:10:12] <DolceVici> x.cc(315)] Bad NaCl helper startup ack (0 bytes) Abortedggggggggggg[18:10:22] *** temboelty <temboelty!29df7522@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.223.117.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:10:33] *** mnemonic <mnemonic!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[18:12:10] <thid> DolceVici u use 32bit version ?[18:12:21] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:13:54] <DolceVici> no. 64bit[18:16:30] <thid> use 32bit[18:17:01] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:17:08] <DolceVici> okay I'll try. thanks[18:17:42] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@94.183.121.17> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:18:40] *** tripout_ <tripout_!~tripout@x59cc8250.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:18:44] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:18:55] *** tripout_ <tripout_!~tripout@x59cc8250.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:19:38] *** negen_ <negen_!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:19:58] *** negen_ <negen_!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[18:19:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen_[18:19:59] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> DolceVici: next time you could beter post the error on a paste in service and give us the link[18:20:30] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[18:21:41] <DolceVici> Will do that next tim[18:21:44] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rqsrwyyujkzhzgui> has joined #manjaro[18:21:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[18:23:36] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:24:53] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[18:25:14] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[18:26:09] <DolceVici> Unfortunately still doesn't work. error while loading shared libraries: libsmime3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory[18:26:09] <DolceVici> . 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Whit exec budgie-desktop[19:53:31] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.12.229> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:55:02] <keevitaja> yeah, from arch wiki[19:55:50] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> What is the exact error[19:55:57] <keevitaja> Terminated[19:57:17] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> That all[19:57:24] <sk1pp> is that from the x logs?[19:57:27] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> You type startx[19:57:42] <keevitaja> ohpah[19:57:45] <keevitaja> stupid me[19:57:51] <keevitaja> it works :D[19:57:55] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Wat[19:58:02] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Was the probleem now[19:58:18] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p5DC4D1B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:58:20] <keevitaja> no problem. thank you so much[19:58:52] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> keevitaja: wat did I do[19:59:28] <keevitaja> typed startx :D i tried to launch it with busgie-desktop[20:00:23] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Oo[20:00:38] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Well good luck with budgie[20:01:29] *** startCommand <startCommand!4ba80aa1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.168.10.161> has joined #manjaro[20:02:30] *** loco__ <loco__!~tripout@217.23.10.184> has joined #manjaro[20:02:38] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:02:49] *** loco__ <loco__!~tripout@217.23.10.184> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:03:26] <keevitaja> tnx[20:03:31] <keevitaja> and it feels pretty quick[20:04:36] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> keevitaja: You like quick You should try i3[20:04:56] <keevitaja> i have used xfce forever[20:05:03] <keevitaja> but yeah, there are quicker things[20:05:11] *** tripout_ <tripout_!~tripout@x59cc8250.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:05:18] <rhg135> i3 is quick, but really I love how effective it is[20:05:32] <rhg135> like fast to use[20:06:00] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Me to i3 ftw[20:06:30] <keevitaja> i find the entire concept bit strange... but then again i have never tried it[20:06:34] * rhg135 is using i3 atm[20:07:40] <sk1pp> I've used i3 for about a year I was thinking about trying awesomewm[20:08:07] <keevitaja> btw which filesystems do you use. ext?[20:08:21] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Awesomewm is also a rilling wm right?[20:08:24] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> 4[20:08:30] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Ext4[20:08:35] <keevitaja> tnx[20:08:39] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Np[20:09:20] <sk1pp> I think so, not 100% sure that its tilling though[20:10:18] <keevitaja> one thing i do hate is installing computers[20:10:27] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> I Will have a search on that[20:10:39] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> keevitaja: that is the part i love[20:10:56] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> The first hour setting up You pc[20:11:19] <keevitaja> i do this so infrequently, that each time i have to relearn it[20:12:37] <sk1pp> I like to mess around with them on VMs and then eventually actually run them. I just started with manjaro after using arch/ubuntu for about a year[20:12:41] <keevitaja> and it usually takes days to get it all done. with apps and tools[20:13:02] <keevitaja> i am switching my arch laptop to manjaro as well[20:13:08] <CupOfCoffee> keevitaja, i am never finished doing that[20:13:12] <keevitaja> i have used manjaro at work for quite some time[20:13:25] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@41.105.65.153> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:13:28] <CupOfCoffee> imo arch is more free that manjaro[20:13:31] <keevitaja> and i am long time xfce user. just the dock support is crappy[20:13:58] <CupOfCoffee> xfce always crshe[20:13:59] <keevitaja> as long as it is not canonical[20:14:01] <CupOfCoffee> on me[20:14:11] <sk1pp> for the most part with VMs you have to use xfce, all the other DE are too heavy[20:14:12] <keevitaja> xfce has been rock solid[20:14:30] <keevitaja> just i hate it's poor dual-monitor support with alptops[20:14:33] <keevitaja> laptops[20:14:33] <sk1pp> I love xfce, my work always requires me to use ubuntu :([20:15:34] <keevitaja> how can work do that[20:15:47] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[20:16:02] <keevitaja> at least we do not have this BS in the office. use what ever makes you more productive[20:16:20] <rhg135> you would prefer they force win xp[20:16:27] <keevitaja> lol[20:17:01] <keevitaja> actually i used ubuntu long time... i got my act together recently. like 2 years ago or so[20:17:10] <CupOfCoffee> i3 guys just i3 quick good work flow and light as heck[20:17:54] <sk1pp> all of our servers run ubuntu so its nice to match our desktops to the os thats running the code[20:18:17] <sk1pp> they don't technically "enforce" its just strongly recommended[20:19:30] <rhg135> I agree that the real win for tiling wms is the workflow[20:20:27] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> And it just look fucking techy[20:20:34] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> And hacker like[20:20:38] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> :D[20:20:53] <rhg135> not mine :([20:21:17] <keevitaja> in a coffe shop using command line is hacky enaugh for some people[20:21:42] <rhg135> ah then I;m an ultra hacker[20:21:58] <rhg135> complete with the odd keyboard layout[20:21:59] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> If You have like four terminals open one running htop other ranger ect ect[20:22:04] <keevitaja> i used to play aardwolf mud in the office. and when coworker asked about it, i told her that i am trying to open a corrupt file[20:22:33] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Play dwarf fortress:D[20:22:52] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> In a coffee shop[20:23:05] <rhg135> I just code something in vim/emacs[20:23:26] <rhg135> and for extra points with cat and sed[20:23:27] <keevitaja> i am not autistic enaugh to use vim[20:23:41] *** CupOfCoffee_ <CupOfCoffee_!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[20:23:41] <keevitaja> one has to be to remember all the keys[20:23:46] <sk1pp> once you learn vim its hard to use other things[20:23:55] <rhg135> that's called memory[20:23:57] <rhg135> ...[20:24:02] <keevitaja> muscle memory[20:24:06] <sk1pp> I love vim to death[20:24:17] <keevitaja> i do sublime text :D[20:24:18] <rhg135> that's a normal thing man[20:24:32] <rhg135> ask any musician[20:24:38] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Atom.io here[20:25:04] <sk1pp> atom is great minus the large file issue[20:25:09] *** siki <siki!25ddb040@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.221.176.64> has joined #manjaro[20:25:22] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> True[20:25:41] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> But I hope they fix it soon[20:25:43] <rhg135> I do love vim and emacs at times[20:26:01] <keevitaja> but why do all desktops look like crap out of the box. like xfce is a disaster. and other do not look good as well[20:26:09] <rhg135> emacs is great when I vim is broken for me[20:26:11] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Have use vim but could use vimscrip[20:26:27] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[20:26:32] <rhg135> when I break vim*[20:27:35] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> keevitaja: kde look good out of the box[20:27:47] <keevitaja> yeah it could, never used it[20:27:55] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Btw i3 is worse then xfce out of the box[20:28:17] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Kde is great just a bit heavy[20:28:50] <keevitaja> i know[20:28:56] <keevitaja> like gnome[20:29:03] <keevitaja> or unity :D[20:29:14] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> Gnome is so bad imo[20:29:20] <keevitaja> with the pre-installed spyware[20:29:36] <rhg135> gnome is heavier than kde though...[20:29:41] <keevitaja> gnome issue is, that it makes no sense on a laptop[20:30:39] <CupOfCoffee_> gnomes work is like -___-[20:30:47] <CupOfCoffee_> flow*[20:31:21] <rhg135> gnome's workflow is "do what you can" imo[20:31:55] <rhg135> it's unorganized chaos[20:32:00] <keevitaja> rolf[20:32:02] <CupOfCoffee_> exactly[20:33:05] <CupOfCoffee_> kdes workflow is beter[20:33:09] *** Naca <Naca!~dave@37.222.37.47> has joined #manjaro[20:33:20] <m4sk1n> I think that after some simply config Xfce is best[20:33:22] <CupOfCoffee_> its a bit like windows heavy but usable[20:33:34] <CupOfCoffee_> I3[20:33:40] <CupOfCoffee_> arch i3[20:33:42] <rhg135> the thing is, keys are my friends; for me, it is so much faster to hit a hotkey than move my mouse and click[20:34:04] <rhg135> especially having problems with shaking[20:34:09] <keevitaja> xfce is very nice if you want it to be stable and minimal[20:34:16] <keevitaja> also you can make it look pretty nice[20:35:02] <siki> Hi guys[20:35:10] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:35:14] <keevitaja> http://i.imgur.com/ljQGRoZ.png[20:35:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ptjZYj] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[20:35:19] <CupOfCoffee_> where thing can be pretty[20:35:42] <CupOfCoffee_> everthing*[20:35:55] <rhg135> the problem is kde takes so long to start on my POS[20:36:06] <rhg135> it's not even that old[20:36:06] <GeekK> keevitaja: neat[20:36:13] <rhg135> so does gnome[20:36:13] <siki> http://pasteboard.co/iwjoJs4T4.png[20:36:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/hsEYKI] Pasteboard — Uploaded Image[20:36:20] <siki> I have this problem with panel[20:36:42] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, even on my i5 6400 i took ages[20:36:53] <rhg135> hdd? CupOfCoffee_[20:37:15] <rhg135> seems to be io limited these days[20:37:15] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.65.80> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:37:27] <m4sk1n> keevitaja: my Xfce config is very similiar, that's easy to make it looking like this, it looks far better than most DE's[20:37:32] <Naca> Hello everybody!! I think I have a bug. The problem is it: when I turn my pc turn off in ram (I think it is called as suspend), it don't wake up correctly after pushing the On button. It only appear a black screen and the LED energy is on, but nothing about HDD led activity neither ram... And it take so long that I have to force shut down manually pushing the button. What I should do ? (sorry about my low level english if there are some error in grammar)[20:37:37] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, procesor[20:37:53] <keevitaja> m4sk1n: nod on that![20:37:58] <Naca> My pc is Toshiba Satellite A300 and in XFCE[20:38:08] <rhg135> I mean is your /usr on an hdd. CupOfCoffee_[20:38:44] <siki> ANYONE FOR HELP????[20:38:45] <CupOfCoffee_> Naca, press the power button one[20:39:04] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, idk how should i be able to see that[20:39:30] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, oo wait lol i dont have a ssd[20:39:40] <rhg135> ah yes[20:39:49] <rhg135> that matters a lot[20:39:55] <CupOfCoffee_> but my win10 took only 7 sec and kde took nealy 40[20:40:00] <rhg135> for almost all things[20:40:23] <GeekK> siki: you have to add a spacer i think[20:40:26] <rhg135> win is incredibly optimized to start fast[20:40:43] <rhg135> it isn't ready to go until much later though[20:40:57] <siki> Which stacer?[20:41:01] <siki> spacer*[20:41:12] <Naca> CupOfCoffee_ , yes, I did it, pressing the power button one at start my pc, but my pc don't wake up[20:41:32] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-77-139-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:41:33] <CupOfCoffee_> Naca, is he powerd off[20:41:41] <CupOfCoffee_> by doing a suspend[20:41:50] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-77-139-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:41:55] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-074.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:42:04] <Naca> not now[20:42:15] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, well np my i3 boot just a fast a win10 only internet take age to connect[20:43:29] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[20:43:45] <CupOfCoffee_> Naca, you did you suspend using a terminal or just a DE button[20:43:49] *** hank <hank!~hank@p549AC057.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:44:36] <Naca> no, I did suspend my pc via graphics[20:45:23] <rhg135> CupOfCoffee_: lucky, mine still takes about 40s[20:45:30] <Naca> "Menu" -> Close active session -> and appear a dialog with options like, turn off, suspend, hibernate...[20:46:04] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, with i3[20:46:08] <rhg135> I'm thinking to just move / to my ssd[20:46:11] <rhg135> yes[20:46:28] <rhg135> most of it is the boot though[20:46:44] <rhg135> the login is ~2s[20:46:49] <CupOfCoffee_> rhg135, what kind of procceror you have[20:47:00] <rhg135> a really bad one[20:47:13] <rhg135> early FX quad core[20:47:18] <rhg135> let me check[20:47:31] *** ZokiR <ZokiR!59a484aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.164.132.170> has joined #manjaro[20:47:32] <m4sk1n> What flat icon theme is most complete to use with Xfce?[20:48:06] <CupOfCoffee_> fx 6300[20:48:21] <CupOfCoffee_> freazer?[20:48:36] <CupOfCoffee_> m4sk[20:48:38] <rhg135> fx 4130 says inxi[20:48:53] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has joined #manjaro[20:48:54] <CupOfCoffee_> ooo that is a old one :D[20:48:57] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@75-38-199-202.lightspeed.ypslmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[20:49:08] <CupOfCoffee_> m4sk1n, freazer?[20:49:32] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as theremper[20:49:36] <rhg135> yeah, it is bad[20:50:05] <rhg135> I'm hoping to upgrade to a 8320 soon[20:50:18] <rhg135> or 8350[20:50:30] <rhg135> whichever is cheaper[20:50:37] *** theremper <theremper!~manjaro-k@75-38-199-202.lightspeed.ypslmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:51:15] *** ZokiR <ZokiR!59a484aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.164.132.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:51:18] <CupOfCoffee_> it has high clock speed then mine[20:51:23] <CupOfCoffee_> 3.8[20:51:25] <CupOfCoffee_> 4 core[20:51:26] <CupOfCoffee_> s[20:51:39] <rhg135> but amd and early fx[20:51:52] <CupOfCoffee_> mine has 2.7 turbos boost 3.3[20:51:54] <rhg135> they are grossly inefficient[20:51:55] <CupOfCoffee_> and 4 cores[20:51:59] <CupOfCoffee_> thats to[20:52:02] <CupOfCoffee_> true[20:52:24] <CupOfCoffee_> intel is imo the king on CPUs[20:52:33] <CupOfCoffee_> AMD is second :D[20:52:34] <rhg135> yeah, sadly[20:52:41] <rhg135> so expensive[20:52:54] <rhg135> far second[20:53:01] * rhg135 sighs[20:53:25] <CupOfCoffee_> true mine $200[20:53:55] <rhg135> my fx runs slower than my old Deneb :'([20:54:10] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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[AMD/ATI] Curacao PRO [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270/370 OEM] @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 5h 26m 3s[21:04:45] <bugzbunny> Intel, blasphemy[21:04:48] <bugzbunny> :-p[21:04:58] <bugzbunny> rhg135, You going to buy an AMD and you call me a defector!!![21:05:02] <bugzbunny> :-p[21:05:09] <bugzbunny> Ahh, Windows :-p[21:05:19] <bugzbunny> Don't worry xD, going to install Arch :-p[21:05:21] <rhg135> what's with all the subpar irc programs[21:05:27] <CupOfCoffee_> http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-6400-vs-AMD-FX-8350[21:05:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/DCKvFO] Intel Core i5 6400 vs AMD FX 8350[21:05:49] <bugzbunny> Don't care about the numbers, Intel, blasphemy!!![21:05:52] <bugzbunny> >.>[21:06:36] <CupOfCoffee_> haha intel is no cheap but is good as heck :D[21:06:44] <CupOfCoffee_> not*[21:07:19] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[21:08:12] <bugzbunny> Once I get water cool, I will OC to 5Ghz :-p[21:09:35] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[21:09:52] *** CupOfCoffee_ is now known as CopOfCoffee[21:09:59] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[21:10:58] <CopOfCoffee> bugzbunny that never gonna be stable[21:11:04] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-77-139-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:11:17] <bugzbunny> CopOfCoffee, What are you talking about lol?[21:11:30] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has joined #manjaro[21:11:38] <CopOfCoffee> bugzbunny you 5Ghz[21:12:18] <bugzbunny> CopOfCoffee, It's been done and advertise by AMD, the 8320E is a underpowered 8350 which itself can be OC to 8Ghz[21:12:24] <bugzbunny> Then have been Benchmarks done[21:12:29] <bugzbunny> :)[21:12:54] <CopOfCoffee> 8Ghz with liqued nitrogen[21:14:17] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@203-7-1-67.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[21:14:56] <CopOfCoffee> bugzbunny https://youtu.be/dYdVGns4wJw[21:14:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LVOoHc] Overclocking CPU to 7ghz with Liquid Nitrogen.mp4 - YouTube[21:16:30] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@177.158.96.52> has joined #manjaro[21:16:33] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as rodrigottd[21:16:52] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@2601:281:c500:62a0:7c74:f271:b8f4:4249> has joined #manjaro[21:17:11] <rhg135> and using obscene amounts of energy[21:17:37] <rhg135> and burning your hands if you touch the vents[21:18:02] <CopOfCoffee> yes so idk why you would need it[21:18:07] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has left #manjaro[21:18:22] *** d-zaster <d-zaster!~user@ip-62-235-86-137.dsl.scarlet.be> has left #manjaro ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.1.1)")[21:18:32] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-95-41-117-74.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:20:00] <bugzbunny> http://www.anandtech.com/show/8864/amd-fx-8320e-cpu-review-the-other-95w-vishera/2[21:20:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/q18Gd5] AMD FX-8320E Overclocking, Test Setup, Power Consumption - AMD FX-8320E CPU Review: The Other 95W Vishera[21:21:30] *** superbia <superbia!c1c608d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.198.8.211> has joined #manjaro[21:21:44] <rhg135> it makes me sad[21:22:04] <rhg135> the 8320 is only slightly faster per-core[21:22:23] <rhg135> the main improvement is the extra cores[21:22:51] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:23:33] <bugzbunny> It's Piledriver, 2nd revision[21:24:43] <bugzbunny> AMD A8 7600 Kaveri (Streamroller 3rd revision) is better :| However, you get extra CPU features and better L1, L2, L3 cache and unlocked[21:25:17] <bugzbunny> SO far, benchmarks for Multi Thread is off the roof where AMD CPUs shine[21:25:24] *** israuor <israuor!~israuor@dsl217-132-27-47.bb.netvision.net.il> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:26:08] <bugzbunny> And OC 8320 so far on benchmark nest around an Intel i5 while stock nest around Intel i3[21:26:23] <bugzbunny> Don't care... /me worships AMD..[21:26:27] * bugzbunny dances around the room[21:26:43] <rhg135> http://www.microcenter.com/product/437624/FX_8320E_Black_Edition_PileDriver_32GHz_Eight-Core_Socket_AM3_Boxed_Processor[21:26:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jA5Zog] AMD FX 8320E Black Edition PileDriver 3.2GHz Eight-Core Socket AM3+ Boxed Processor FD8320FRHKBOX - Micro Center[21:26:53] *** superbia <superbia!c1c608d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.198.8.211> has left #manjaro[21:27:05] <rhg135> I can get this by saturday[21:27:13] * bugzbunny claps[21:27:30] <rhg135> it will be glorious[21:28:51] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-7.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[21:28:52] *** aspekt00 <aspekt00!~diegouy00@r167-57-66-46.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has joined #manjaro[21:28:56] <rhg135> I just wish I knew how to overclock well[21:30:40] <bugzbunny> Depend on Mobo, it's really easy[21:30:44] <rhg135> as an aside, I love having such a store close by; so useful[21:31:26] <rhg135> I have an MSI one, it's really easy, just don't know what to change safely[21:31:49] <bugzbunny> It has based clock of 200x20 gives you 4Ghz[21:31:51] <rhg135> I've just slightly increased the modifier before[21:32:21] <bugzbunny> You just change the multiplier but you need to do it incrementally and you need to disable turbo core[21:32:56] <bugzbunny> You go from 16 (factory stock) to 17 and stress test for 5minutes[21:33:08] <bugzbunny> But but but but with stock cooler[21:33:19] <rhg135> but once you get to a certain point you need to increase the core voltage, no?[21:33:33] <bugzbunny> You would need to either get water cool or get a cooler with thermal pipes with good thermal paste[21:33:49] <rhg135> I have a liquid cooler, but it may be dead :([21:34:03] <bugzbunny> rhg135, You only increase the core voltage if you experience stability issues at the frequency you are testing at[21:34:25] *** LordShadowWing <LordShadowWing!~LordShado@fsf/member/lordshadowwing> has joined #manjaro[21:34:52] <bugzbunny> Increasing core voltage increases heat (I am not Overclocker, I am a total newbie, just been watching videos on OC and reading docs) :)[21:35:12] <rhg135> ofc[21:35:26] <rhg135> physics are a bummer[21:35:51] <bugzbunny> At stock speeds, the CPU hangs around 30C[21:36:06] <rhg135> mine is at 46C[21:36:10] <rhg135> on water[21:36:21] <rhg135> the pump is dead I think[21:37:00] <rhg135> or the paste is not very effective[21:37:01] <bugzbunny> The CPU will revert to stock speeds if all the cores are stressed and I've seen it hang around 60C-70C... Only issue, is wattage, xD[21:37:22] <bugzbunny> I used ASUS OC Tuner and the CPU wattage jumped to wopping 150w[21:37:46] <bugzbunny> @ 3.8Ghz[21:37:57] <rhg135> good thing I used a 750W PSU[21:38:00] <bugzbunny> Under stress testing[21:38:08] <bugzbunny> LOL, I have 550 :-p[21:38:33] * bugzbunny stress test with prima95[21:38:42] <rhg135> same[21:38:51] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-87-79-188-198.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[21:38:53] <rhg135> then brb[21:38:56] *** rethus <rethus!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-dc30-0-b701-4644-922b-beb6.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:39:57] <bugzbunny> Prima95 at Stock speeds... 80w[21:39:59] <bugzbunny> w00t[21:40:07] <batch> hi, is sonar gnu linux still in development? i remember manjaro helped making isos for it[21:41:13] <batch> when i search google for sonar gnu linux, it returns on the first entry but google thinks the website is probably hacked too[21:41:26] <bugzbunny> 70c[21:41:28] *** prillian5 is now known as rethus[21:41:40] <bugzbunny> batch, :\[21:41:40] <batch> bugzbunny 0/[21:41:44] <batch> :D[21:41:46] <bugzbunny> hello![21:41:55] <batch> you know about sonar?[21:42:09] <bugzbunny> nope[21:42:10] *** LordShadowWing <LordShadowWing!~LordShado@fsf/member/lordshadowwing> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[21:43:06] <bugzbunny> batch, https://sourceforge.net/projects/sonargnulinux/[21:43:07] <bugzbunny> ?[21:43:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/u1yTDN] sonar GNU/Linux download | SourceForge.net[21:43:10] <batch> hmm 5 hours for 2gb iso lol[21:43:12] <batch> not gonna happen[21:43:16] <batch> yeah bugzbunny[21:43:47] <bugzbunny> 17.01 was released 1 month ago[21:44:09] *** mandje_ <mandje_!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:ad39:d926:c627:8714> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:45:11] <batch> mate or gnome hmm[21:45:30] <bugzbunny> There's not a lot going ont heir website >.>[21:45:57] <batch> looks like it's only gnome in the alpha latest[21:46:03] <batch> yeah[21:46:28] <batch> ok 7 minutes[21:46:35] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[21:47:01] * rhg135 is at 4GhZ[21:48:07] <bugzbunny> I hit about 77w @ 70c on stock speeds.. Well within what I desire[21:48:14] <bugzbunny> welcome to my little buddy http://picpaste.com/pics/20170105_153010_1_-423BNoHn.1483649244.jpg[21:48:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LljZ7h] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[21:48:40] <bugzbunny> I have the colors on the mobo to changed based on a CPU temp xD[21:49:02] <manjaroi3> wish i could oc my system[21:49:13] *** manjaroi3 is now known as SpaceManSparrow[21:49:18] <bugzbunny> http://picpaste.com/pics/20170105_031234_2_-PD9QE3bf.1483649348.jpg[21:49:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1OZt2J] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[21:49:50] <bugzbunny> SpaceManSparrow, :.................([21:49:53] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:49:59] <rhg135> how do you measure wattage, bugzbunny?[21:50:32] <bugzbunny> rhg135, I used a software from ASUS[21:50:53] <rhg135> this is a linux channel yo[21:51:00] <rhg135> powertop iirc[21:51:58] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[21:53:16] <bugzbunny> rhg135, http://picpaste.com/pics/asus-RkmvMsh6.1483649585.png[21:53:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/krTusv] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:53:19] <bugzbunny> :-p[21:53:20] <rhg135> meh[21:53:40] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic[21:53:41] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[21:54:08] <bugzbunny> Tells me everything I need to know :-p[21:55:12] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:57:21] *** D3mian <D3mian!~dcarron@206.132.109.91> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:58:29] <batch> running it in qemu bugzbunny[21:58:44] <bugzbunny> sweet![21:59:14] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-18-187.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[21:59:20] <batch> http://i.imgur.com/l3iW4ZD.png[21:59:21] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/f9EAKn] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:59:32] <batch> looks like it does not wanna start i think lool :p[21:59:47] <bugzbunny> xD[22:01:17] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agsg6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:01:34] <magican> Speaking of it[22:01:57] <magican> <-- 6700K @ 4.8 ghz (1.4v) or 4.6Ghz @ 1.28v[22:02:04] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:387b:4fc4:9255:dc1b> has joined #manjaro[22:02:10] <magican> 4.6 is y sweetspot[22:02:14] <magican> my*[22:03:04] <vexare> sup[22:03:29] <bugzbunny> :)[22:05:54] *** Infamous <Infamous!znc@185.38.14.119> has joined #manjaro[22:06:56] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[22:07:16] <magican> Anyone know a good dark theme that looks thesame in GTK2 AND 3 ?[22:07:26] <magican> Thats the tricky part.. BOTH 2 and 3[22:08:22] <batch> xfce-dusk magican[22:08:25] <batch> :p[22:08:29] <batch> dark[22:08:56] <batch> variation as window decoration[22:09:12] <batch> and flatwoken-icons-git as icons[22:10:29] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:11:01] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:12:01] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[22:16:19] *** aspekt00 <aspekt00!~diegouy00@r167-57-66-46.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:17:52] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[22:18:48] <magican> dusk v3 will have to do for now[22:20:00] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[22:25:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- is now known as Dippy[22:25:36] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:25:49] *** rethus <rethus!~prillian5@xdsl-87-79-188-198.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:30:46] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agsg6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:34:13] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:34:37] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[22:35:49] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[22:36:15] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@190.217.219.88> has joined #manjaro[22:36:18] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@190.217.219.88> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:37:45] *** HeyCitizen <HeyCitizen!~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-02-70-54-172-223.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[22:38:52] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agsg6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:39:01] *** dqsii <dqsii!~dqsii@69.167.30.72> has joined #manjaro[22:39:13] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[22:40:01] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has left #manjaro[22:42:16] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[22:44:52] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:50:59] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[22:52:54] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[22:59:29] <batch> haha bugzbunny sonar is fun, it has speech-dispatcher but he's talking so fast and incorrect[22:59:42] <batch> he drunk[22:59:56] <bugzbunny> make a recording![23:00:09] <batch> idk how :D[23:00:33] <batch> tell me the fastest easiest screenrecorder with audio bugzbunny[23:00:34] <bugzbunny> sound recorder![23:00:35] *** Meehai <Meehai!~Mihai@188.25.145.215> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:00:44] <bugzbunny> simplescreenrecorder?[23:01:01] <batch> gnome sound recorder?[23:01:47] <batch> i don't even know root pass[23:02:08] <bugzbunny> Well, if you want to record the screen too, you can give simplescreenrecorder a shot[23:02:14] <bugzbunny> And the password might be empty[23:02:38] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-125-234.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:02:50] <batch> yeah just sudo lol[23:02:57] <batch> empty i think yes[23:02:59] <batch> crazy[23:04:32] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@169-0-105-140.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[23:04:33] *** ok91 <ok91!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/ok91> has joined #manjaro[23:04:36] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-103-200.voxdsl.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:08:19] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-206-214.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:08:33] <bugzbunny> for a livecd[23:08:37] <bugzbunny> quite common[23:11:26] <mike-zal> live password? it's manjaro[23:11:29] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:12:47] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:13:02] <bugzbunny> hes on sonar[23:15:39] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@178.114.75.8.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has joined #manjaro[23:16:30] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@178.114.75.8.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:17:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@194.44.128.155> has joined #manjaro[23:17:26] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:40] *** mchasard_ <mchasard_!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[23:17:47] <mchasard_> hi[23:18:04] <mchasard_> is manjaro arm discuss here?[23:18:47] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-206-214.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[23:18:59] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-95-41-117-74.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:19:01] *** hank <hank!~hank@p549AC057.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:19:19] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-31-1-192-197.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:19:22] <bugzbunny> #manjaro-arm[23:19:56] <mchasard_> ok thanks[23:20:46] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[23:21:36] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:22:33] *** TheGoose <TheGoose!~Goose@2602:306:c577:2310:fc73:b710:d939:208d> has joined #manjaro[23:23:16] <TheGoose> Hey everyone, I'm looking to switch to Manjaro, and had a question. Since its based on Arch, I just install packages made for Arch on it?[23:23:34] <sk1pp> yeah[23:23:46] <sk1pp> are you coming from debian?[23:23:50] <TheGoose> Cool. Thanks! Yeah I am[23:24:08] <TheGoose> Gonna be a...interesting change[23:24:16] <TheGoose> I've been using debian forever[23:24:31] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:24:39] <TheGoose> Any tips with switching?[23:24:54] <sk1pp> with manjaro it will be really easy[23:25:11] <sk1pp> you won't notice a lot of arch's quirks until you dig imo[23:25:31] <sk1pp> I've never run into a package that was on debian that I was unable to find on arch[23:25:39] <TheGoose> I just load a live iso and install like most distros right?[23:25:50] <sk1pp> yeah[23:25:52] <TheGoose> yeah AUR is a big reason I'm looking to switch. It seems wonderful[23:26:01] <TheGoose> Just not sure on which version I want[23:26:13] <sk1pp> it will boot into manjaro and then just run the graphical installer[23:26:18] <TheGoose> Sweet[23:26:19] <sk1pp> you mean of the DEs??[23:26:22] <TheGoose> Yeah[23:26:33] <TheGoose> Usually used GNOME but looking at other stuff[23:26:45] <sk1pp> KDE is really nice, but heavy (very similar to gnome)[23:26:54] <sk1pp> xfce is lighter[23:27:03] <TheGoose> Yeah, I tried KDE right when plasma released and it was not a good time[23:27:16] <sk1pp> I use xfce but thats just a personal choice[23:27:27] <TheGoose> Kinda put me off, may try it again. I always loved the look.[23:27:34] <TheGoose> Though, it easy to switch so i may as well[23:27:57] <sk1pp> I've never run into any issues with it, unless you're on a VM[23:28:24] <TheGoose> yeah it seems real stable, just last time I used it a lot of graphical stuff was weird.[23:28:31] <TheGoose> Torrent link for KDE 64 bit?[23:28:37] <TheGoose> nevermind[23:29:02] <sk1pp> Manjaro has some really good graphics detection[23:29:34] <TheGoose> Awesome. Why would one choose arch over manjaro?[23:29:36] <TheGoose> Just curious[23:29:48] *** mchasard_ <mchasard_!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:29:53] <sk1pp> Weight/smiplicity[23:30:00] <sk1pp> arch is barebones[23:30:47] <TheGoose> Thanks![23:30:53] <TheGoose> DLing now[23:30:54] <sk1pp> manjaro is similar to an ubuntu install[23:31:01] <TheGoose> That's what it seemed like[23:31:12] <TheGoose> Just seems like user-friendly arch[23:31:21] <TheGoose> BUt I guess that's kinda the goal[23:31:24] <sk1pp> thats how I think about it[23:31:48] <sk1pp> installing arch is fun in itself though :)[23:31:57] <TheGoose> Not looking forward to reinstalling everything again but oh well[23:33:52] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[23:34:29] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[23:35:38] <sk1pp> If you haven't used pacman before it will be fun to learn it[23:35:54] <TheGoose> I have not. Excited for it. People rant and rave over it[23:36:08] <TheGoose> relearning all these commands is going to be a pain in the ass[23:36:49] <sk1pp> One thing that I've notice about ubuntu and manjaro is that neither have vim installed by default[23:36:58] <TheGoose> Really?[23:37:00] <TheGoose> Weird[23:37:01] <sk1pp> I haven't checked emacs[23:37:10] <sk1pp> nope[23:37:15] <ringos> is just detail[23:37:25] <ringos> people want too many luxe oboard :)[23:37:31] <sk1pp> hahaha[23:38:04] <sk1pp> I figured, I just always thought more people used vim over nano.[23:38:20] <ringos> nzno is fine enough :)[23:38:38] <ringos> atleast i am just used to nano[23:39:05] <sk1pp> I'm bias because my school forced me to learn vim :)[23:39:44] <ringos> personally cant stand vim or gvim lol[23:40:37] <sk1pp> I've never bothered with gvim[23:40:46] <sk1pp> I'd like to learn emacs eventually[23:41:17] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:45:01] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[23:45:30] <ringos> people must use what they like to use, :)[23:46:01] <ringos> personally a iso dont need much , only stuf that can importand to disk recovery[23:46:15] <ringos> and installer and terminal then is fine and irc en webbrowser[23:46:36] <ringos> personal office and music stuf is not needed :)[23:46:57] <sk1pp> agreed[23:47:10] *** TheGoose <TheGoose!~Goose@2602:306:c577:2310:fc73:b710:d939:208d> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:47:36] <ringos> people look to much blind on application on preinstalled linux distro[23:48:40] <sk1pp> that was one of the things that was appealing about arch to me in the first place, and still with manjaro is the lack of things I'd consider "bloated"[23:48:57] <startCommand> emacs: escape-meta-alt-control-space[23:49:11] <startCommand> just learn vim or use evil mode[23:53:02] *** startCommand <startCommand!4ba80aa1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.168.10.161> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:55:42] *** montetobuso <montetobuso!~monteto@211.84-48-196.nextgentel.com> has joined #manjaro[23:57:55] <montetobuso> My installation suddenly started to act wierd, every time i close the computer lid or it goes to sleep, it says that networking has been disabled. I can't enable it again, nothing happens. Logging in and out doesn't help, it needs a har reboot. This is a new problem, worked fine yesterday[23:58:42] *** CopOfCoffee <CopOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:58:45] <montetobuso> when i think about it I switched to new kernel yesterday, maybe that's the problem?[23:59:16] <montetobuso> running 4.9.0-1 now