January 4, 2017 
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January 4, 2017 [00:00:25] *** floraxing <floraxing!521727ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.23.39.174> has joined #manjaro[00:01:01] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:01:31] <floraxing> I have 177 packages to update but when I used sudo pacman -Syu or my update manager I keep getting conflicting packages with pip - http://i.imgur.com/wRgZxbh.png[00:01:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6CKVVA] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[00:01:51] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[00:05:38] <Dearu> about the conflicting packages https://forum.manjaro.org/t/having-trouble-updating-conflicting-packages/1119/4[00:05:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/B4uTaY] Having trouble updating (Conflicting packages) - Updating - Manjaro[00:06:01] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:12:46] <floraxing> Following that, after -Syyu I got conflicting packages but still checked etc and got[00:12:46] *** SpinningWheels <SpinningWheels!~SpinningW@unaffiliated/spinningwheels> has joined #manjaro[00:13:20] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@93.190.139.35> has joined #manjaro[00:13:28] <SpinningWheels> i just updated manjaro on my desktop and rebooted now it sits with a blinking underscore forever[00:15:19] *** NoSyK <NoSyK!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[00:15:35] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:16:44] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[00:18:13] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:18:27] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[00:19:56] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-084-063-124-004.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:22:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@15.184.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[00:23:14] *** batch_ <batch_!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[00:23:16] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:23:32] *** batch_ is now known as batch[00:27:07] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:28:05] <SpinningWheels> i believe a kernel update did something with my video drivers, how do i fix this in the chrooted environment?[00:30:06] <johnvan> SpinningWheels, I do not know how to recover using chroot, but do you have a 2nd kernel on your machine[00:32:08] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:32:30] <SpinningWheels> i dont even get the grub option[00:34:59] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[00:40:24] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:40:38] *** manjaro-budgie_ <manjaro-budgie_!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #manjaro[00:43:30] *** stiky <stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-66-39.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:43:49] *** floraxing <floraxing!521727ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.23.39.174> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:45:44] *** LockeAnarchist <LockeAnarchist!~deathcraw@unaffiliated/deathcrawler> has joined #manjaro[00:48:18] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-7.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:48:29] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57990209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:50:02] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[00:53:38] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:54:29] <SpinningWheels> after mounting my root and boot to /mnt when i manjaro-chroot /mnt i get "ERROR: You can't mount 0!" when i mhwd-chroot /mnt i get another cli window say it can't find a linux installation and it closes. i can ls /mnt and see that my linux installation is there[00:55:15] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[00:56:04] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[01:00:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@15.184.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:00:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@15.184.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[01:05:45] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[01:06:34] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[01:07:51] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:08:06] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:08:45] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[01:08:56] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has joined #manjaro[01:11:21] <lambda-11235> If I'm installing on a computer that had an old linux installation on it (with seperate / and /home partitions), should I simply reformat the / partition, set the mountpoints, and then start the uefi x86-64 process for the disk preparation and boot loader phases of installation?[01:13:08] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has joined #manjaro[01:13:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[01:15:05] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[01:17:43] *** manjaro-budgie_ <manjaro-budgie_!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[01:18:45] <nicklas_> yo[01:19:17] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@acrl169.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:20:36] *** notis <notis!~notis@46.246.232.187.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:21:23] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p5DC4D1B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:21:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@15.184.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:22:10] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@15.184.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[01:22:33] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:23:59] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has joined #manjaro[01:26:35] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[01:27:18] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:28:33] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:28:55] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[01:37:48] <lambda-11235> Ok. I have backups and I tested in QEMU. I'm going for it.[01:37:52] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[01:40:45] <SpinningWheels> i just updated manjaro on my desktop and rebooted now it sits with a blinking underscore forever[01:41:14] <nicklas_> maybe something went wrong with graphics update or something[01:41:32] <nicklas_> how did you update, did it give any messages?[01:41:59] <SpinningWheels> that's my best guess but so far nothing i do changes anything. i've just tried the nomodeset and setting my grub menu to 60 second timeout and i still get nothing but this blinking line[01:42:19] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:42:34] <SpinningWheels> it did update the kernel but i do no remember anything else[01:43:01] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[01:44:37] <SpinningWheels> is there a way to remove any specific video drivers so that i can at least boot into my system?[01:44:44] <SpinningWheels> is there anything i can do?[01:52:10] <SpinningWheels> how do you change video drivers?[01:53:05] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@97e3eb6a.skybroadband.com> has joined #manjaro[01:53:47] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:54:40] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B2081F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:55:17] *** jsamyth <jsamyth!~jsamyth@75-151-113-165-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:56:48] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Ragequit)[01:58:12] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[01:58:53] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:01:08] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@97e3eb6a.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation 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<stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:51:23] *** elh9__ <elh9__!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:55:50] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:56:00] <lambda-11235> Yeah, I successfully installed manjaro![03:57:07] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[03:57:13] <b0n> welcome to the brotherhood ! :p[03:57:16] * b0n applaudes[03:58:06] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:01:32] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@cpe-24-90-40-180.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[04:01:45] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@cpe-24-90-40-180.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:04:12] *** Oachkatzl_ <Oachkatzl_!~Oachkatzl@178-191-20-185.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:06:14] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:08:20] <lambda-11235> Only problem is GRUB doesn't recognise my Window's partition, which isn't that series since I haven't used it for months.[04:09:45] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:11:12] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:13:10] <dodgejcr> lambda-11235: boot into manjaro, ensure your efi partition is mounted (if you are using uefi) and run update-grub[04:15:21] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:16:11] <lambda-11235> dodgejcr: By mounted I assume you mean /boot/efi is present?[04:18:30] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:18:52] *** stiky <stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #manjaro[04:18:57] <lambda-11235> It is, I just checked with mount.[04:19:52] *** dentame <dentame!d2ac80e6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.210.172.128.230> has joined #manjaro[04:20:28] *** dentame <dentame!d2ac80e6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.210.172.128.230> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:21:50] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[04:21:51] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[04:23:59] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:24:31] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[04:30:59] <dodgejcr> lambda-11235: yeah[04:31:11] <dodgejcr> re running update-grub with that in place should fix the windows bit[04:34:39] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[04:37:24] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-084-063-124-004.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined 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I'll lock at it tomorrow.[04:39:50] <lambda-11235> * look. 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I can't update my system because of that. How I can solve it?[06:21:07] <dodgejcr> does it give you the option to replace one?[06:21:11] <dodgejcr> if so, choose yes[06:23:56] <manjaro-web|1193> Yup I will try[06:29:04] <manjaro-web|1193> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)[06:29:04] <manjaro-web|1193> :: libkgeomap4: removing libmarble4 breaks dependency 'libmarble4'[06:29:24] <manjaro-web|1193> I can't do it.[06:30:51] <dodgejcr> open a terminal and type sudo pacman -Sdd marble. It will force the new install and allow you to update[06:31:27] <manjaro-web|1193> Ok[06:31:59] <dodgejcr> after you run that and it finishes, do sudo pacman -Syyu[06:34:03] *** ywecur[m] <ywecur[m]!ywecurmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lsiaarhfgtmrjyjk> has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer)[06:34:31] <manjaro-web|1193> It's working, thanks for your help stranger.[06:34:47] <dodgejcr> no problem. Its why we are here[06:35:43] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[06:35:45] <manjaro-web|1193> You help me a lot, thanks.[06:38:17] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupOfCoff@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[06:40:33] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupOfCoff@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:42:37] *** manjaro-web|1193 <manjaro-web|1193!beb5db0a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.181.219.10> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:42:50] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[06:43:24] <Vlado9A> good morning[06:45:34] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-084-063-124-004.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:50:32] *** ywecur[m] <ywecur[m]!ywecurmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yclrsgeefyssafol> has joined #manjaro[07:00:45] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@84.63.124.4> has joined #manjaro[07:01:26] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:05:10] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@84.63.124.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:13:43] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[07:13:58] *** Ravenmire <Ravenmire!~stercor@24-181-195-221.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[07:15:12] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[07:17:01] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@27.201.144.5> has joined #manjaro[07:18:48] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@27.201.144.5> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:19:23] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[07:21:50] *** sotram <sotram!~sotram@cblmdm134-228-69-208.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[07:26:08] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.244.31> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[07:27:54] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:34:05] *** lgbtpride4ever <lgbtpride4ever!~manjaro-k@175.128.171.95.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:34:56] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[07:38:08] <sgo11> hi, I added some mount points in /etc/fstab and disable automount. I always mount them by using sudo mount after login manually. There is a problem when I shutdown/reboot the system. I always need to wait for about 2 minutes somehow. Without mounting these partitions, shutdown has no problem. It seems manjaro/archlinux can not auto umount my manually mounted partitions. why? how to fix it? thanks.[07:39:05] <sgo11> PS: I was using ubuntu, there is no such issue in ubuntu. thanks.[07:44:56] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[07:49:33] <sgo11> I will reboot this machine and check if I can find any logs... brb.[07:49:36] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[07:49:42] *** stiky is now known as Stiky[07:49:54] *** Stiky <Stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:50:09] *** stiky <stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-44.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #manjaro[07:57:52] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[07:59:41] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2605:e000:ab42:ac00:88a:b188:2e51:8b24> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:59:48] <sgo11> ok, I don't know how to find this failure log. during the shutdown process, the black screen outputs "A stop job is running for /my/manually/mount/partition (36s / 1min30s)". I don't want to wait for 1min30s everytime...[08:01:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2605:e000:ab42:ac00:88a:b188:2e51:8b24> has joined #manjaro[08:07:10] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~grzegorz@user-94-254-134-218.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[08:07:12] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~grzegorz@user-94-254-134-218.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:08:12] *** fisk <fisk!~fisk@ool-43560807.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[08:11:48] <sgo11> ok, I found the log: https://hastebin.com/azajixigof.erl[08:11:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GcvE1A] hastebin[08:15:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2605:e000:ab42:ac00:88a:b188:2e51:8b24> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:15:48] *** hahahahh <hahahahh!~hahahahh@154.193.3.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #manjaro[08:16:07] *** hahahahh <hahahahh!~hahahahh@154.193.3.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:17:03] *** hahahahh 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<fisk!~fisk@ool-43560807.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:20:29] <vexare> lol[08:20:54] <optics> nice and colourlful i like[08:21:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o vexare[08:21:59] *** vexare sets mode: +b *!*@154.193.3.123.sta.dodo.net.au[08:23:11] <Vlado9A> sgo11: I remember having second hdd with ext4 partition, but I don't remember having this issue. Have you tried to umount it manually before shutdown, is there the same issue present, taking long time?[08:23:54] *** vexare sets mode: +b *!*@123.3.193.154[08:24:07] *** vexare sets mode: -o vexare[08:24:11] <b0n> what the hell was that[08:24:21] <vexare> worst spammer ever[08:24:42] <b0n> agreed[08:24:58] <sgo11> Vlado9A, If I umount them manually, there will be no issue. if i don't mount them manually, there will be no issue. The system just can not umount my manually mounted partitions automatically during shutdown.[08:25:01] <Colt> at least, made me some laugh in this ugly morning :)[08:25:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o vexare[08:25:10] *** vexare sets mode: +b *!*@*.193.3.123.sta.dodo.net.au[08:25:10] *** hahahahh was kicked by vexare (hahahahh)[08:26:09] <vexare> fuck this children[08:26:11] <vexare> in vacation time[08:26:23] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[08:26:28] <Vlado9A> sgo11: it is some local network share, am I right?[08:26:41] <b0n> its okay i go back to college on the 9th. i assume most kids will be going bck soon too.[08:26:43] <sgo11> Vlado9A, yeah. it is.[08:27:09] <vexare> australia i think has bandwidth caps[08:27:16] <vexare> and shit copper internet anywaysw[08:27:19] <dodgejcr> damn I step outside to have a smoke and I missed some awesome spam[08:27:20] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I don't have other partitions locally. so I can not test if local manually mounted partitions will have the same issue or not.[08:27:22] <vexare> who the hell wastes time so badly[08:27:42] <sgo11> I am not sure if this is the same issue as mine or not: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/867[08:27:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zUFqWq] /var stays busy at shutdown due to journald · Issue #867 · systemd/systemd · GitHub[08:27:58] <day|flip> sup dodgejcr[08:28:09] <Vlado9A> I would say that it can'tumount cause your network stops before umount, so that might be an issue... I suggest umounting it manually before shutdown... you can make some script and make an alias in your .bashrc config file[08:28:15] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@ip-89-176-251-164.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[08:28:28] <optics> vexare: fiber to the node and shit copper, but unlimited ;)[08:28:42] <dodgejcr> day|flip: not much just finishing up some work before heading to bed[08:28:46] <vexare> oh, they remove the caps now?[08:29:17] <optics> it depends on your net plan[08:29:34] <optics> its the same as UK fiber[08:29:41] <day|flip> ahh. i just got on. i thought you never go to bed[08:29:42] <day|flip> :)[08:30:07] <dodgejcr> lol dont really have to be up in four hours to pick up the kids[08:30:25] <dodgejcr> 4.5 hours*[08:31:04] <vexare> i've got fiber to the node in Spain too but i'm not sure how they do the tier connection or in between cities[08:31:27] <vexare> i kinda laughed when technician comes with coaxial cable pulled over the building[08:31:41] <vexare> it was like 'you call this shit fiber plan' more or less[08:32:04] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I think you are right. how can I make network disconnect after umounting finishes? thanks.[08:32:11] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I don't have this issue in ubuntu...[08:32:21] <optics> in Australia the infrastructure is all owned by 1 company the NBN - we call it fraudband[08:32:54] <optics> because the copper is all rat shit so the fttn is pointless bottlenecked overpriced crap[08:33:32] <vexare> we had here a monopoly by national Telefonica company until 2000[08:33:47] <Vlado9A> sgo11: it will help if you only umount your network share before going to shutdown[08:33:48] <vexare> it was called Timofonica at it's time, from timo = scam[08:34:07] <day|flip> I hear that australia internent is one the slowest interent[08:34:35] <Vlado9A> and there's no worries about disconnecting a network :)[08:34:47] <dodgejcr> no day|flip that would be most of america[08:35:03] <vexare> i have 2 mb/s down 900 kb upload[08:35:08] <day|flip> you mean south americal[08:35:11] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I am lazy to do manual umount everytime before shutdown...[08:35:16] <day|flip> america*[08:36:24] <dodgejcr> we have good speeds but could easily have much better.[08:36:25] <Vlado9A> sgo11: maybe somebody else here can give you more help, cause I can't tell exactly what to do[08:36:48] <vexare> i wish i could have higher upload rates, i can't do seriously any private trackers[08:37:16] <Vlado9A> but I'm sure I would make a script and run it before shutdown[08:37:24] <sgo11> Vlado9A, sure. you gave me a direction to the fix. I never realized my network was disconnected before the umount. i checked the log. you are right. thanks a lot.[08:38:04] <Vlado9A> you're welcome sgo11[08:38:16] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has joined #manjaro[08:38:19] <day|flip> dodgejcr: speed is ok. just not on par with japan china and south korea[08:38:20] <thid> yo[08:40:11] <dodgejcr> sgo11: how are you mounting in your fstab?[08:40:29] <dodgejcr> x-systemd-automount may help a bit[08:41:30] <sgo11> dodgejcr, //storage/s /media/smbstorage/s cifs username=user,password=pass,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto 0 0[08:41:50] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:41:56] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: fatal halt)[08:42:05] <sgo11> dodgejcr, I am reading https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180577 post. I think I will try a network dispatcher script at first.[08:42:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jN7HFv] Can't unmount network drive on shutdown / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums[08:42:50] <dodgejcr> sgo11: yeah I would try using x-systemd.automount Read up on it. I believe it lets systemd handle all of that properly so it doesnt hand when it cant find the network to unmount the drive[08:43:35] <dodgejcr> I use it on my nfs servers and havent had that problem since I started using it. I dont remember having it much to begin with tho[08:44:47] <dodgejcr> day|flip: yeah my speeds are good I suppose but the infrastructure that the US is capable of sort of leaves the end users screwed[08:45:54] <day|flip> speed is ok till i start trying to start streaming 4k. 2k some time give me issue. but i tend to buffer for 20 sec before i start playing the video[08:46:38] <dodgejcr> I really shouldnt complain. Im being shitty. There are far worse internets out there tbh[08:47:02] <day|flip> im happy with what i have.[08:47:42] <sgo11> dodgejcr, thanks. I just read fstab wiki page and I will try to add noauto,x-systemd.automount to my fstab.[08:47:45] <dodgejcr> yeah I get by. My upload sucks compared to my down but thats my only real complaint. It sucks when you upload large image files for a distro and it takes hours lol[08:48:02] *** Ravenmire <Ravenmire!~stercor@24-181-195-221.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:48:29] <day|flip> upload is really need for torrenting and uploading videos to the web[08:48:43] <dodgejcr> sgo11: I think it may be a cleaner way of handeling that. If it still doesnt work. You could always write a systemd service to handle the unmount before systemd brings down the network[08:48:51] <day|flip> there may be more to it then i know so far.[08:49:29] <dodgejcr> day|flip: I've to upload image files often ~1gb. It sucks really because my up speed is 2.5Mbit/s[08:49:39] <day|flip> ehh[08:49:42] <day|flip> that sucks[08:50:02] <dodgejcr> yeah when the down is 125Mbit/s Just doesnt seem right[08:50:08] <sgo11> I will reboot to test. brb[08:50:11] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[08:51:42] *** vexare sets mode: -o vexare[08:53:13] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[08:55:01] <dodgejcr> well im off. 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Does anyone have information ?[10:06:47] *** peetaur2 <peetaur2!~peter@i4DF67CD2.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:06:52] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[10:09:16] *** peetaur2 <peetaur2!~peter@i4DF67CD2.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has joined #manjaro[10:09:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v peetaur2[10:12:55] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@178-190-218-176.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[10:16:51] *** fh <fh!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has joined #manjaro[10:17:33] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cudgfvwhogwhepeq> has joined #manjaro[10:30:18] *** fh <fh!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:30:38] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[10:31:30] *** fh <fh!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has joined #manjaro[10:31:33] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[10:32:20] *** beyrek <beyrek!58fef24a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.254.242.74> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[10:33:41] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[10:34:33] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: exit (xchat 2.4.5 или старше))[10:35:30] <sgo11> I failed to umount cifs samba share before network disconnected druing shutdown/reboot. I use wifi connection. I tried to put x-systemd.automount in fstab and it failed. I tried to use NetworkManager.dispatcher script and it failed due to this bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701242. I tried to write a systemd service and it failed since it run after the network disconnected. any ideas how to execute a script before the network disconnected?[10:35:30] <sgo11> thanks.[10:35:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1kyChL] (link was unresponsive: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701242.)[10:36:56] <fh> swwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww[10:37:31] *** fh <fh!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:40:47] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:41:45] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@188.163.232.130> has joined #manjaro[10:43:49] *** fh <fh!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has joined #manjaro[10:44:29] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrl169.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:49:41] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:50:35] *** manjaro-web|6981 <manjaro-web|6981!028a7040@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.138.112.64> has joined #manjaro[10:51:34] *** manjaro-web|6981 <manjaro-web|6981!028a7040@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.138.112.64> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:51:36] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[10:55:03] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[10:55:19] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:01:32] <sgo11> brb[11:01:36] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:02:28] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579905F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:03:25] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@175.128.171.95.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[11:07:20] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@85-69-253-116.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[11:10:00] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:10:53] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[11:11:37] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[11:13:40] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@85-69-253-116.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:15:17] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-164-40.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:16:57] *** MatthewAllan93 <MatthewAllan93!~MatthewAl@unaffiliated/matthewallan93> has joined #manjaro[11:18:06] *** MatthewAllan93 <MatthewAllan93!~MatthewAl@unaffiliated/matthewallan93> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[11:19:30] *** NoSyK <NoSyK!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:22:37] *** Animtim_ is now known as Animtim[11:22:58] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[11:23:17] <magican> There ya go.. fresh install of Arch on a Crucial MX300 SSD.[11:23:21] <magican> DAMN it's a fast system :O[11:24:03] *** gnus-fghiter <gnus-fghiter!~gnus-fghi@37.236.136.83> has joined #manjaro[11:24:04] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@p200300760E26773179021B7C9EA1673C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:24:28] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:25:50] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:26:54] *** mandje_ <mandje_!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:ad39:d926:c627:8714> has joined #manjaro[11:29:08] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:5d21:7a88:f084:b808> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:29:21] *** sega <sega!~manjaro-k@cable-178-149-89-206.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #manjaro[11:31:12] <fh> magician: ssd's are the industrys gift to nerds[11:31:35] <fh> magician: congrats with your system[11:32:04] <day|flip> mmm i say m.2 ssd are for the nerds. 2.5 ssd are normal[11:34:00] <fh> hey dayz - how many m.2s in your rig?[11:34:14] <day|flip> i only have a intel nuc. so one[11:34:25] <day|flip> and a 2.5 tb hdd[11:34:32] <fh> :) nice[11:34:39] <day|flip> 2*** tb hdd[11:34:53] <day|flip> 2.5" 9mn high[11:35:59] <fh> my rig has and pci with 4 slots for msata and my laptop is waiting for my € to stack up to a m.2[11:36:53] <day|flip> im starting to build a new pc for gamming. just got the case and fans. watting for am4 motherboard and ryzen cpu[11:37:08] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@i59F6AFF7.versanet.de> has joined #manjaro[11:37:11] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@i59F6AFF7.versanet.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:37:16] <day|flip> there not out yet V.V[11:37:51] <fh> you have no problem with AM and nix?[11:38:01] <negen_> I never had the chance to test out m.2 ssd's before they seem cool enough a bit high priced though[11:38:16] <day|flip> ya. my intel nuc is my first intel computer that i own[11:38:26] <day|flip> amd cpu for a long time now[11:38:55] <negen_> I use normal ssd's though a sas card seems like a nice setup but still not as fast as the m.2 cards[11:39:08] <magican> fh: Thanks.. some finetuning in progress. UEFI and Grub made me almost cry lastnight ;P sorted eventually.[11:40:00] <fh> magician: use 17alpha/dev build?[11:41:01] <fh> day|flip: long time ago a had nothing but trouble with amd - sticked to intel ever since[11:41:34] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:41:50] <fh> day|flip: amd must be doing something right though[11:43:00] *** fh is now known as fhdk[11:43:10] <day|flip> i only own two pc. both were amd cpu. and they did just fine. my pc that have is AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition[11:43:23] <day|flip> really old but running good[11:43:46] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:43:50] <negen_> Timing cached reads: 15982 MB in 2.00 seconds = 7997.37 MB/sec[11:43:50] <negen_> Timing buffered disk reads: 2332 MB in 3.00 seconds = 776.61 MB/sec[11:43:51] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@178-191-20-185.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[11:44:23] <negen_> I still use my amd 940[11:44:37] <negen_> that system has windows on it though[11:44:46] <negen_> and two 7970's[11:44:46] <day|flip> ahh[11:44:56] <day|flip> for the gpu i see[11:45:16] <negen_> my linux system is a bit faster[11:45:21] <negen_> same age though[11:45:29] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:45:37] <fhdk> have a great day everybody - i am disconnecting[11:45:48] <day|flip> take care fhdk[11:46:32] *** fhdk <fhdk!~fh@static-5-103-137-72.seas-nve.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:47:46] <negen_> CPU(s)~2 Hexa core Intel Xeon X5670s (-HT-MCP-SMP-) speed/max~1600/2934 MHz Kernel~4.8.15-2-ck x86_64 Up~12 days Mem~2067.3/24057.4MB HDD~479.0GB(5.8% used) Procs~347 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.5[11:48:14] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:49:00] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[11:52:47] <negen_> reading on bossiness management is boring[11:53:00] <negen_> business even[11:53:09] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC ()[11:54:20] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:54:28] <negen_> but when i am rich an meet bob hope i will shoot some golf and shoot some dope[11:56:17] <negen_> if anyone wants to set up a crowd fund for me to buy a fjallraven down jacket no.1 I would be obliged[11:56:22] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@81.171.75.147> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:56:56] <negen_> 570 pages of boring[11:57:21] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[11:58:43] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:58:57] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[11:59:09] *** jarco_ is now known as jarco5000[11:59:33] *** jarco5000 is now known as jarco|work[12:00:19] <sunn> New to Linux, I am looking to add a line of code to a lot of .ovpn files, is there some kind of automation software that could help me with this task?[12:01:59] *** learnBot <learnBot!~onajkojik@95.180.95.170> has joined #manjaro[12:02:20] <learnBot> is manjaro-dev version more stable then arch?[12:03:07] <day|flip> kind of. but 90% of arch stable is in manjaro-dev. hint. it used unstable repo[12:03:41] <negen_> I think that manjaro-dev repo's use arch stable repo's if i recall correctly[12:03:53] <day|flip> yes[12:04:09] <negen_> i do not think that manjaro uses arch's unstable or testing repo's what ever arch has[12:04:16] <day|flip> i still remember this. i have not used manjaro in a wee bit of time now[12:04:22] <negen_> but arch in it self is pretty stable for most things[12:04:38] <day|flip> it manjaro unstable = arch stable[12:05:00] *** jarco|work is now known as jarco_[12:05:22] <day|flip> testing repo is little more stable. mostly what happen is package are hold from unstable till they are stable to be tested[12:05:27] <negen_> I mean both are suitable for workstations and non mission critical systems[12:05:59] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:05:59] <day|flip> i have always like using manjaro testing[12:06:54] <negen_> one thing I have never been clear about is what is manjaro's testing procedures I mean before when i used manjaro there were no testing teams or anything setup just people basing info off of reported issues in the forums[12:07:42] <negen_> I guess the idea is that by the time it reaches arch stable issues are probably most likely somewhat maybe kinda fixed[12:08:18] *** manjaroi3 is now known as padh[12:09:22] <negen_> one thing I think is most helpful and I wish some how could be integrated into mhwd is dkms I think dkms drivers are something wonderfull[12:10:02] <day|flip> their a godsend for broadcom-wl driver[12:10:05] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@178-190-218-176.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[12:10:11] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[12:10:36] <negen_> I get a feeling like a bad headache just goes away from the front to the back of my head just the pain is erased just thinking of how dkms has eased my life[12:11:17] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:11:21] <negen_> yeah broadcom-wl is working for the most part for me using dkms[12:11:29] <negen_> but that driver is only meh[12:11:47] <day|flip> will i do like that a found a good setting on my 20-intel.conf. stupid skylake was a pain to get my gpu part working just right[12:12:24] <negen_> really the only good driver for linux is either the older 2.5ghz stuff or ath10k[12:12:52] <negen_> but ath10k cards were never brought to the masses for some reason[12:13:02] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgyuhvjdwuyojutc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[12:14:42] <negen_> i mean dell or who ever owns those killer wifi brands were the only card to use that chipset and they used a hacked up version of the 5ghz firmware part that makes it not compatible with standard qca chips[12:15:26] <negen_> intel wireless chips are strange in that they do not seem to work via usb[12:16:00] <negen_> although the bluetooth radio's can get picked up via usb I never was able to the wireless bits to work via usb[12:16:26] <day|flip> the only issue i had was broadcom. it SOL or your supper lucky it supported by the kernel[12:16:57] <day|flip> i don't own a lot wifi card. so i cant speek to say so much about it[12:17:06] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@175.128.171.95.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:17:16] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@175.128.171.95.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[12:18:09] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-164-40.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:19:10] <negen_> I have a laptop with a tinnie tiny broacom piece of shit card that utter garbage i do not know what chipset it is but it can only connect under win7 at 3Mbit[12:19:33] <learnBot> sorry i went alt tab frogot xD, am asking will i get in manjaro-dev crashes that wont boot PC at all like i got 1-2 time with arch[12:20:21] <negen_> well those crashes sound like driver issues[12:20:45] <day|flip> it should not be as bad. i guess. most people have seen unstable repo stable for "THEM". but it not for everyone[12:20:58] <negen_> if it does not boot and yes more than likely if you use non-free drivers and you use the lastest thingies[12:21:25] <negen_> but if you use a dkms driver the crashes will probably not be there[12:21:55] <negen_> although if use ati i do not know if that is an option amd/ati is a bit odd at moment so i cannot comment on that[12:22:09] <negen_> but I have been told that manjaro does not support dkms[12:22:38] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:22:47] <negen_> one thing you can do is make a blacklist of the video drivers in the pacman configs[12:23:01] <negen_> and of course the xorg thingies[12:23:27] <negen_> too that way when you update you do not get things that are the most probable thingies to bork your system[12:24:07] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cudgfvwhogwhepeq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[12:24:11] <negen_> then when you get some free time and a shit tonne of caffine then you can update the xorgs and drivers at a time of your choosing[12:24:41] <negen_> that is most likely the best thing to do if you have issues with getting kicked out of xorg[12:24:43] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[12:24:53] <magican> So! Done! Yey...[12:25:11] <negen_> I would think there would a wiki posting about it somewhere[12:25:22] *** manjaro_ <manjaro_!~manjaro@213.231.113.165.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[12:25:51] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-222-105-139.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:26:06] <whytrytofly> hi[12:26:13] <negen_> magican, I need you to use your magic to make ringo fall in love with me[12:26:20] <whytrytofly> my graphic chip uses video-intel and video vesa[12:26:26] <whytrytofly> i sometim3es have probs watchin videos[12:26:38] <whytrytofly> how could i check whether these driver are the optimum for my graphic chip[12:27:22] <thid> whats ur gpu ?[12:27:22] <negen_> well intell does have a hackish way of using hardware decoding[12:28:00] <day|flip> whytrytofly: mhwd -li[12:28:04] <negen_> libva is the thingie that intel will use for gpu acceleration[12:28:11] <day|flip> this till us what installed[12:29:19] <whytrytofly> http://pastebin.com/n89urrTs[12:29:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/w9GL8F] mhwd -li > Installed PCI configs: -------------------------------------------- - Pastebin.com[12:29:23] <whytrytofly> how do i treat this information[12:29:57] <negen_> there are two versions of the libva that could work[12:30:08] <negen_> one is something along the lines of libva-intel[12:30:50] <negen_> and the other is from aur called libva-intel-driver-g45-h264[12:31:23] <negen_> the best way to test video acceleration is with mpv[12:31:34] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-084-063-124-004.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:31:42] *** Tobinski <Tobinski!~Tobinski@p5DE0C6F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:31:49] <negen_> when loading a video from the command line it will tell what driver is being used and what is working[12:31:51] *** Tobinski <Tobinski!~Tobinski@p5DE0C6F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:32:01] <day|flip> im betting that need to make 20-intel.conf[12:32:01] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@175.128.171.95.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:32:34] <day|flip> whytrytofly: inxi -G[12:33:26] <negen_> does the ucode need to be installed for these things day|flip ?[12:33:51] <negen_> I always install the ucode but i do not remember if it helps with intel gpu's or just intel cpu's[12:34:00] <magican> what was the command for checking boottime once in X?[12:34:05] <magican> forgot that[12:34:18] <negen_> systemd-analyze[12:34:31] <day|flip> idk what hd intel gpu he running. he may get lucky and just need "option "TearFree" "True"[12:34:41] <magican> ah, thanks[12:35:20] <day|flip> if it skylake he could try out my options[12:35:45] <day|flip> im running Intel Iris Graphics 540[12:35:56] <day|flip> witch was a bloody pain to setup right[12:36:04] <negen_> yeah the iris stuff came out just after my system did[12:36:16] <negen_> i had a haswell chip[12:36:22] *** manjaro-web|2730 <manjaro-web|2730!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has joined #manjaro[12:36:31] <day|flip> your will be much easier to deal with[12:36:38] <negen_> yeah but it died[12:36:45] <manjaro-web|2730> morning[12:37:04] <negen_> if your not bringing coffee go away[12:37:20] <manjaro-web|2730> soda is better isnt it[12:37:28] <day|flip> GIVE ME COFFEE OR FLY[12:37:29] <negen_> no ![12:37:36] <day|flip> jk[12:38:01] <day|flip> anyway it 4:40am and still up[12:38:04] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yvowvpfmmjqvlphn> has joined #manjaro[12:38:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[12:38:22] *** manjaro-web|2730 <manjaro-web|2730!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:38:26] <negen_> well i am drinking coffee at 330 am[12:38:33] <negen_> so meh i guess[12:38:34] <whytrytofly> day|flip, http://pastebin.com/s1YxXgSX[12:38:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zjf92R] inxi -G Graphics: Card: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller - Pastebin.com[12:38:39] *** manjaro-web|3842 <manjaro-web|3842!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has joined #manjaro[12:38:58] <magican> Dualboot with Win10 (uefi) and then a pure arch install on 2nd drive, and then Grub to relaise it has 2 OS, THAT was fun.. *not*[12:39:01] <magican> :P[12:39:02] <manjaro-web|3842> hello[12:39:11] <whytrytofly> day|flip, did you win your bet ;[12:39:11] <manjaro-web|3842> lol[12:39:25] <magican> archwiki sux when it comes to grub/uefi howto. manjarowiki saved my ass there.[12:41:21] <negen_> that is old hardware probably does not need much configs[12:41:25] <day|flip> will you could try out this simple option whytrytofly. no your gpu much older then mines. so no need to used my stupid setup for skylake[12:41:44] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fd8b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[12:41:45] <whytrytofly> day|flip, sorry what?[12:42:08] <negen_> i think day|flip is confused[12:42:14] <Lowl3v3l> magican, what do you find missing in the archwiki i wonder?[12:42:41] <Lowl3v3l> magican, granted for some more obscure features i'll use the gentoo wiki myself, but i doubt the manjaro wiki is more complete[12:42:54] <negen_> well arch wiki did revise there stuff just recently[12:42:59] <day|flip> no. just saying my skylake gpu set up is a mess to work with. whytrytofly your gpu is older. less work to get working[12:43:02] <magican> Lowl3v3l: nothing, but they type it so hard to sort out, manjarowiki is more 1,2,3,4,5,done.[12:43:22] <magican> Lowl3v3l: Archwiki just make a big soup of it =) However it contains all facts.. but still..[12:43:24] <negen_> i am glad i had printed out the old wiki before they removed the useful bits[12:43:27] <Lowl3v3l> magican, you have to understand it first. just copy pasting is the worst possible way to do things.[12:43:29] <day|flip> whytrytofly: are you running xfce DE?[12:43:39] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@ain100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:43:40] <manj-budgie> hello. my new manjaro budgie installation won't start after installation. sometimes i get to the not really recognizing greeter screen, once i was able to login, but screen stayed white then. virtual console via ctrl-alt-fx doens't work.[12:43:59] <whytrytofly> day|flip, net edition, having xfce installed but right now on lxqt[12:44:05] <manj-budgie> oh and usb boot with non free drivers doesn't work[12:44:16] <magican> Lowl3v3l: Didn't do that at all. But the part with GRUB/UEFI etc, u can read it 10 times wihout getting a grip of it. Manjarowiki spanks arch ass when it comes to HOW TO SET IT UP.[12:44:18] <day|flip> whytrytofly: what your fav text editor?[12:44:19] <magican> :)[12:44:31] <whytrytofly> day|flip, vim+[12:44:34] <whytrytofly> vim[12:44:44] <whytrytofly> day|flip, why ^^[12:45:00] <negen_> I like nano leafpad and geany[12:45:03] <Lowl3v3l> magican, i really really doubt that and i have learned to distrust manjaro wiki. It's simply not as good as arch's or gentoo's^^[12:45:41] <magican> Lowl3v3l: True, but fact remain, the UEFI part was better explained when it comes to installing it. At least for me.[12:46:15] <manj-budgie> the budgie version booted with free drivers from usb stick works pretty well though[12:46:17] <day|flip> whytrytofly: sudo vim /etc/X11/mhwd.d/intel.conf[12:46:28] <magican> So now I have a 600Gb partion do waste on something, an other distro perhaps.. Arch is now running on a Crucial MX300 SSD. So the old HDD is useless, hmm. Almost like a VM ;P[12:46:37] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:46:37] <negen_> arch used to have two sections one for beginners and the normal one they merged the two and are more complicated than before[12:46:58] <day|flip> whytrytofly: in Section "Device". add this Option[12:47:00] <magican> negen_: What we want, do like this > 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, done.[12:47:07] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrl169.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:47:11] <manjaro-web|3842> why not use a LIVE USB for awhile?[12:47:16] <day|flip> whytrytofly: Option "TearFree" "True"[12:47:20] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[12:47:21] <Lowl3v3l> negen_, my point there is simply : those things ARE complicated and oversimplification is the enemy[12:47:21] <manjaro-web|3842> waste some time then get back to installing[12:47:23] <magican> but nooo.. 10 pages of 1,000 options etc.. AND?! I need to know step #2 or something :P[12:47:26] <whytrytofly> you might be flamed for sudo vim[12:47:32] <whytrytofly> :P[12:47:34] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:47:39] <Lowl3v3l> magican, problem is those things are and remain complicated.[12:48:08] <Lowl3v3l> magican, properly maintaining, configuring and installing a linux system IS hard.[12:48:20] <magican> Lowl3v3l: What I learned the hard way, Win = UEFI / GPT drive. And I installed arch with "normal" msdos and grub (as we always done) on /sdc.. os-probe didn't find a shit ;P[12:48:28] <day|flip> whytrytofly: i like using text base editor in the terminal. it just don't like dealing with 10000 line stuff[12:48:32] <magican> Lowl3v3l: so format again, GPT, set up EFI, blablabla.. happy days.[12:48:35] <magican> so learning by doing ;P[12:48:48] <magican> (but i almost cryed for a while there)...[12:48:50] <Lowl3v3l> magican, of course it didn't. Though you can do a gpt install without efi ;)[12:49:05] <Lowl3v3l> magican, and even efi without gpt if you have a funny mood xD[12:49:06] <magican> Lowl3v3l: that part of grub/install is a PAIN :D[12:49:09] <negen_> I never used ueffi cept once when arch had the old wiki buy it was on a laptop with a hacked up bios from clevo so the uefi bits were probably a bit more simple but also i do not dual boot so that probably made things easier[12:49:22] <Lowl3v3l> magican, depends. If you have a solid grasp on it it really isn't.[12:49:42] <magican> Lowl3v3l: Choosed the way with a tiny partion mounted to /boot, then everything went smooth.[12:50:00] <Lowl3v3l> magican, the only thing i had to look up when i did my first uefi install was how to tell grub to directly load from a crypto partition when the only other is /boot/efi ;)[12:50:17] <day|flip> whytrytofly: i'm taking a guess you work with xorg stuff before. not many user like using vim on here. it copy paste drive me a little made from out side of vim stuff[12:50:39] <whytrytofly> day|flip, yes sure[12:50:55] <whytrytofly> day|flip, i like the "+y "*y stuff[12:51:05] <magican> Haha. Have to say that UEFI/GRUB is the only tricky part (at least with dualboot, only arch is easy), otherstuff is pretty basic once u done it a few times. 10-15 min to install arch? Something like that.. (minus all optional crap)[12:51:09] <negen_> whytrytofly, another thing that may help with video playback is with using mpv you can increase the cache size[12:51:29] <magican> partion, mount, pacstrap, chroot, blabla, reboot[12:51:37] <magican> faster that GUI in manjaro :P[12:51:40] <whytrytofly> negen_, thats what i do anyway ;)[12:51:43] <Lowl3v3l> magican, every install is easy once you got the basic grasp. you can install manjaro, debian... all the same way^^[12:51:52] <day|flip> negen_: that stream stuff[12:51:55] <negen_> man it takes me about an hour to install arch[12:52:20] <magican> almost boring when everything is as it should now :P[12:52:29] <negen_> the first few times i did arch were a few hours long[12:52:32] <whytrytofly> day|flip, i dont see the TearFree[12:52:40] <manj-budgie> problems with fresh budgie installation, need help if possible[12:53:08] <whytrytofly> manj-budgie, what sort of[12:53:19] <negen_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Tear-free_video[12:53:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/tuZBfR] Intel graphics - ArchWiki[12:53:23] <whytrytofly> manj-budgie, you get hellp, but need to describe the problem[12:53:28] <negen_> this is the part he is talking about whytrytofly[12:53:28] <whytrytofly> general IRC rule :P[12:53:37] <whytrytofly> negen_, but i dont have that line[12:53:42] <negen_> add it[12:54:13] <whytrytofly> ah yeah sure[12:54:15] <manj-budgie> usb live media works pretty good with free drivers, but when installed to disk, i barely reach the bugging greeter, once i figured out how to login but screen stayed blank/white-[12:54:17] <whytrytofly> and what does it do[12:54:24] <manj-budgie> virtual console isn't working[12:54:43] <day|flip> whytrytofly: http://pastebin.com/HCbkswP5[12:54:43] <whytrytofly> manj-budgie, sure that ur HD/SSD is working properly?[12:54:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/hNe0Li] Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "Intel" Option "AccelMeth - Pastebin.com[12:54:45] <negen_> it works with v-sync or something along those lines if i recall correctly[12:55:22] <manj-budgie> usually it should work yes[12:55:37] <day|flip> whytrytofly: it should look a little something like that. that TearFree option should also act like vsync.[12:56:04] <whytrytofly> day|flip, okay![12:56:43] <manj-budgie> calamares is installer of choice right?[12:56:56] <day|flip> it the only choice now[12:57:59] <day|flip> whytrytofly: you will only notice the that option working on reboot.[12:58:08] <whytrytofly> day|flip, will do so now[12:58:11] <whytrytofly> brb[12:58:13] <badbodh> howdy[13:01:26] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:01:30] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-222-105-139.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:02:14] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!uid205280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aartvoisucknoudn> has 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incompatible con radeon?[13:12:25] *** Sargosse <Sargosse!~Sargosse@ARennes-658-1-11-31.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:13:11] <Lowl3v3l> manjaro_, this is an english channel. if somepony knew he'd answered the first time ;)[13:13:47] <manjaro_> sorry[13:14:29] <day|flip> manjaro_: can you give us a little more on what going on. it could give us a better idea to guess were the issue might be at[13:15:35] *** D3mian <D3mian!~dcarron@206.132.109.91> has joined #manjaro[13:15:59] <manjaro_> ya, with the last version "fringilla" can't fix the owners drives os ati radeon 6770[13:16:34] <day|flip> are you running free driver or non free?[13:17:23] <manjaro_> my solucion was install 16.06 win xorg-server 1.17 and fix to ingnore upadate of xorg-server[13:20:20] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@ip-89-176-251-164.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:20:38] <manjaro_> ok, nive to meet all[13:20:38] <day|flip> have you tried running live cd of the newer iso to 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Se necesita Manager para Fundación importante que subvenciona proyectos y canales de IRC en Freenode y StormBit. Si estás interesado(a) por favor ingresa al canal #quieroseroperador . Se requiere dominio nativo o avanzado de idioma español, y un dominio básico de inglés (como mínimo, no excluyente).[13:50:55] <SeNecesitanOps> Hola, ¡Buenos días! Se necesita Managers y Operadores para Fundación importante que subvenciona proyectos y canales de IRC en Freenode y StormBit. Si estás interesado(a) por favor ingresa al canal #quieroseroperador . Se requiere dominio nativo o avanzado de idioma español, y un dominio básico de inglés (como mínimo, no excluyente).[13:51:13] *** SeNecesitanOps <SeNecesitanOps!569c725d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.156.114.93> has left #manjaro[13:56:17] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-pelgarjvjswpdjzi> has joined #manjaro[13:57:08] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@81.171.75.149> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:58:43] *** Sango <Sango!~kvirc@10.230-227-89.dsl.completel.net> has joined #manjaro[13:58:59] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:59:53] *** learnBot <learnBot!~onajkojik@95.180.95.170> has left #manjaro[14:11:58] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[14:14:40] <magican> Anyone else that DON'T have a startmenu? ;P[14:14:49] <magican> openbox and kbd shortcuts ftw[14:17:16] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[14:17:26] *** 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#manjaro[15:08:13] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[15:14:28] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@190.113.128.142> has joined #manjaro[15:15:18] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@190.113.128.142> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:16:58] *** naitsabes <naitsabes!~naitsabes@unaffiliated/naitsabes> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:20:08] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-8-72.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[15:22:18] <noy|b> Hello[15:22:20] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF26EEF0CBEA078E6D2D80B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:22:29] <noy|b> Question about fstab[15:22:52] <noy|b> Do you think it's worth changing noatime to relatime for and SSD?[15:24:56] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:26:11] <noy|b> No neither do I.[15:27:53] <thid> noy|b nope[15:28:37] <thid> stay with noatime and change io scheluder to noop[15:29:55] <magican> I've read about SSD, and adding discard is the way to use TRIM (if ur drive support it)[15:30:24] <negen_> it is more than just having the drive support it too if in raid for example[15:30:31] <magican> my fstab => rw,discard,relatime,data=ordered[15:30:36] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[15:30:49] <negen_> but also if you really want to see your ssd fly f2fs is the fastest filesystem i have tested[15:31:03] <magican> ANy quick command to get ALL free/total hd space, regardles of drive and partion?[15:31:14] <thid> df -h[15:31:46] *** manjaro-web|8898 <manjaro-web|8898!6e5dd462@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.110.93.212.98> has joined #manjaro[15:32:03] <negen_> /dev/sda2 / f2fs rw,relatime,background_gc=on,inline_data,extent_cache,active_logs=6 0 0[15:32:24] <manjaro-web|8898> testing chat room, looks great[15:32:29] *** sunn 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Maybe do one on my own insted.[15:32:33] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.12.241> has joined #manjaro[15:33:07] <negen_> inxi ?[15:33:27] <negen_> inxi -D should probably do it[15:33:49] <magican> Ah, danke! Forgot a lot of commands, been /away for a few years.[15:33:53] <negen_> SR-2% inxi -D[15:33:53] <negen_> Drives: HDD Total Size: 479.0GB (5.7% used)[15:33:53] <negen_> ID-1: /dev/sda model: MR9267 size: 479.0GB[15:33:56] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:33:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[15:34:08] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:34:13] <magican> HDD~4525.9GB(4.7% used)[15:34:18] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host109-145-140-69.range109-145.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[15:34:21] *** manjaro-web|8898 <manjaro-web|8898!6e5dd462@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.110.93.212.98> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:35:41] <Strit_Laptop> [strit@HAL ~]$ inxi -D[15:35:44] <Strit_Laptop> Drives: HDD Total Size: 774.2GB (17.7% used)[15:35:45] <Strit_Laptop> ID-1: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_SSD_U100 size: 24.0GB[15:35:46] <Strit_Laptop> ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST750LM022_HN size: 750.2GB[15:35:52] <negen_> wow you have lots of thinigies on your drive magican[15:36:14] <negen_> you guys both have lots of thingies[15:36:15] <magican> Drives: HDD Total Size: 4525.9GB (4.7% used)[15:36:17] <magican> ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB[15:36:20] <magican> ID-2: /dev/sdd model: TOSHIBA_DT01ABA3 size: 3000.6GB[15:36:22] <magican> ID-3: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10JPVX size: 1000.2GB[15:36:32] <magican> ID-4: /dev/sdc model: Crucial_CT275MX3 size: 275.1GB[15:36:34] <magican> There. Well, Win 10 and BF H / 4 / 1 etc etc..[15:36:48] <Strit_Laptop> Mine is mostly WoW though. :P[15:36:57] <magican> sdc <-- Archlinux only on that[15:37:00] <negen_> I am surprised the world accepted win10[15:37:04] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:37:30] <magican> EVil thing.. But I _must_ play battlefield..[15:37:39] <magican> Anyhow, looks stupid with GTX1080 in linux :P[15:37:43] <magican> load 0.00001%[15:38:00] <magican> :P[15:38:04] <Strit_Laptop> How do you measure GFX load?[15:38:13] <magican> Just an guess..[15:38:35] <Strit_Laptop> The only indicator I have, is how much of the GPU ram is in use. :P[15:38:37] <magican> BUT! nvidia-settings can show it.[15:38:37] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host109-145-140-69.range109-145.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:38:42] <magican> 0% atm[15:39:15] <magican> :)[15:39:15] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[15:39:17] <magican> 1% mem used[15:39:18] <magican> (gfx)[15:39:21] <magican> But, it was nice to have it in blender though[15:39:25] <negen_> I have a 980ti in linux[15:39:34] <negen_> some kingpin thingie[15:39:47] <negen_> meh i guess it is enough to run linux[15:40:12] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has joined #manjaro[15:40:27] <negen_> volkswagen bought it for me since they are liar liars[15:40:27] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:40:58] <manjaroCinnamon> Hey there, could somebody give me advice about running a script/command at boot that requires sudo permissions? I edited /etc/rc.local and just put that command in, but it doesn't seem to do anything.[15:41:00] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[15:41:10] *** manjaro-web|3842 <manjaro-web|3842!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:41:37] <negen_> probably the preferred way is make a systemd thingies manjaroCinnamon[15:41:45] <manjaroCinnamon> Ah, ok.[15:41:54] <negen_> systemd service file[15:41:57] <negen_> that calls the script[15:42:01] <manjaroCinnamon> I didn't know we could do it that way.[15:42:54] <negen_> I forgot the exact steps but i had to do that in the past[15:43:26] <magican> But, it was nice to have it in blender though00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,0[15:43:27] <magican> 00[15:43:45] <manjaroCinnamon> Enable a unit to be started on bootup # systemctl enable unit[15:43:56] <manjaroCinnamon> Something like that?[15:43:57] <negen_> my gpu clock speed now is 135mhz[15:45:37] <negen_> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175789[15:45:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ts7hyq] [solved] Running a systemd script as root on startup / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums[15:45:51] <negen_> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146259[15:45:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/lsfHly] [solved] writing systemd service file to run script / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums[15:46:27] <magican> ,300[15:46:59] <magican> 0[15:47:09] <negen_> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162297[15:47:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/X6Exg6] [solved] systemd: Start process as specific user / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums[15:47:22] <negen_> these links should probably get you to where you want to go manjaroCinnamon[15:47:57] <manjaroCinnamon> Thanks nengen![15:48:07] <manjaroCinnamon> Or, should I say, nengen_[15:48:15] <manjaroCinnamon> Er...negen_[15:48:17] <manjaroCinnamon> Hah.[15:48:24] <negen_> yeah thats it[15:48:28] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@2a00:1028:83c2:110a:32f3:58fe:4249:8741> has joined #manjaro[15:48:31] <magican> ,,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,[15:48:41] <negen_> probably be like that when you make your systemd service file too[15:49:15] <negen_> nope thats not it nope thats not it nope thats not it oh maybe this will work ok that seems to be working now[15:49:21] <manjaroCinnamon> You mean make sure I don't make typos?[15:49:21] <manjaroCinnamon> Haha.[15:49:24] <manjaroCinnamon> Good idea.[15:49:49] <negen_> well not only that but also making sure you have the right style of service file[15:50:05] <negen_> probably need a oneshot thingie for example[15:50:30] <negen_> and user= root thingie should probably work[15:50:33] <manjaroCinnamon> Yeah. It's weird that the system settings in Cinnamon don't seem to work in this case - as in, trying to do it via the GUI 'Startup Applications'[15:50:44] <manjaroCinnamon> But I get it, the cli is the way to go.[15:50:46] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:51:14] <manjaroCinnamon> Let me try it then, thanks for you assistance.[15:51:24] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[15:51:26] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:51:29] <negen_> I do not know about how cinnamon works[15:51:49] <negen_> there may be another way to make it work using some sort of gui tools[15:51:54] *** manjaro-web|4995 <manjaro-web|4995!5b89d3bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.137.211.191> has joined #manjaro[15:52:30] <negen_> I use openbox so most my scripts or thingies get started with the openbox.RC thingie[15:53:28] <negen_> going back to college after ten years is kinda strange i will start my linux schooling thingies soon enough[15:53:38] <manjaro-web|4995> Hello guys, i have a question , i started Database programming on my computer with c++ Qt, everything seems cool but i have some problem when i start my mysql server (xampp) it isn't creating the mysql.socket file in the correct folder and i got an error message:[15:53:38] <manjaro-web|4995> QSqlError("2002", "QMYSQL: Unable to connect", "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2 \"No such file or directory\")")[15:53:55] <negen_> that will probably for me to learn the harder way of using linux like ubuntu and suse and those confusing distro's[15:54:33] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@2a00:1028:83c2:110a:32f3:58fe:4249:8741> has quit IRC (Quit: japonecka)[15:54:36] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[15:55:34] <magican> haha[15:55:38] <negen_> no clue about that sql makes me want to shoot my self but i would think a symlink should probably fix that issue if directories are different[15:56:03] <magican> all the random stuff i apperently say sometimes, my 1,5yr daughter that walk by and press something :)[15:56:39] <Lukimya> what happens if you issue chmod 400 for a folder? should it not become only accessible by root?[15:57:25] *** elh9_ <elh9_!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[15:58:08] <manjaro-web|4995> thank you i'm going to try that you suggest[15:58:09] <negen_> Lukimya, wouldn't that only work if root was the owner or does root get to over ride that as well[15:58:10] <negen_> i kinda forget sometimes the things that root can override[15:58:30] <negen_> 400 should made readable only by the owner[15:58:42] <negen_> but root might also have access too[15:59:13] <Lukimya> thunar says root is the owner[16:00:12] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:00:25] <negen_> yes well anyways 400 should only be readible by the owner[16:00:35] <Lukimya> my brain is too slow to understand these magnificent logics of file permissions[16:01:10] <negen_> I think that some things need to be set in order to made a user tell root to fuck off[16:01:59] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has joined #manjaro[16:02:13] *** elh9_ <elh9_!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:02:22] <Lukimya> well, the point of my excercise is to make a specific folder only accessible by root and no one else[16:02:23] <negen_> things can get complicated when trying to keep root from prying i think[16:02:56] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[16:03:03] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yvowvpfmmjqvlphn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[16:03:43] <Lukimya> and by my understanding the folder is now configured in that way, but it still opens with the password of the previous owner even though thunar shows that the owner now is root[16:04:10] *** gebruiker <gebruiker!~gebruiker@77.172.237.233> has joined #manjaro[16:04:31] <gebruiker> What is the xfce theme and icon theme called in manjaro? I am on my arch box right now and can't recall the name atm[16:07:49] <naxs> Hi there, hope you can give me a hand on the following error: After rebooting from update i took the folloing msg on the screen: ERROR: device 'UUID=......' not found. Skipping FSCK'[16:07:50] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[16:08:02] <naxs> I have followed the instraction from here : https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Fails_to_Load_(pata_acpi_error) but without success[16:08:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/TmYXmH] Kernel Fails to Load (pata acpi error) - Manjaro Linux[16:08:03] <negen_> yes Lukimya if the root is the owner then 400 should keep everyone else out[16:08:42] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[16:09:48] *** manjaro-web|4995 <manjaro-web|4995!5b89d3bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.137.211.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:11:42] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@217.23.12.241> has joined #manjaro[16:11:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@188.163.232.130> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:12:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@188.163.232.130> has joined #manjaro[16:13:18] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@217.23.12.241> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:13:19] <naxs> Botergos: I've edited the grub file as well as updated it. success[16:13:33] <naxs> Without success, sory[16:19:20] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[16:21:18] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:21:48] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[16:23:16] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:24:06] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~bernhard@dslb-094-219-213-003.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:24:39] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:25:38] <batch> what's the best settings to put in fstab for sdcards?[16:25:53] <batch> i have these: https://bpaste.net/show/9db0e8fd9383[16:25:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jvZXwM] show at bpaste[16:26:08] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[16:27:11] *** fh <fh!~fh@193.33.149.190> has joined #manjaro[16:28:14] *** fh is now known as fhdk[16:28:43] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has joined #manjaro[16:29:12] <manjaroCinnamon> Well negen_ no luck so far![16:29:33] <manjaroCinnamon> I've created a systemd unit, enabled it and rebooted. Doesn't work yet, must tinker a bit more.[16:29:44] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:30:38] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[16:30:46] <manjaroCinnamon> I noticed some people saying the script you're trying to run should start with a shebang, which this one doesn't. Tried making a separate script that does start with one, then calling that with the unit. 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BUT, It did contains the files: hp-laserjet_m1005-hpijs.ppd.gz and hp-laserjet_m1005.ppd.gz inside '/usr/share/ppd/HP'. I tried to manually choose them which doesn't work. any ideas? thanks a lot.[16:51:14] *** CupOfEspresso <CupOfEspresso!uid205280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aartvoisucknoudn> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[16:51:31] *** CupOfCappuccino is now known as CupOfEspresso[16:52:23] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:52:58] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:54:21] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-8-72.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - Evelyn Beatrice Hall)[16:56:50] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:58:23] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C5280064D1E7C69FC5BB22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:59:10] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-8-72.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[16:59:13] <noy|b> [noyfb@Z30-A ~]$ cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler[16:59:14] <noy|b> [noop] deadline cfq bfq[16:59:16] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[16:59:28] <noy|b> Do the brackets indicate noop is selected?[17:00:07] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p200300D363C5280064D1E7C69FC5BB22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:00:48] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p200300D363C5280064D1E7C69FC5BB22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:00:48] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@169-1-163-173.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:01:48] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C5280064D1E7C69FC5BB22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:02:03] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:02:36] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:04:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-103-218.voxdsl.co.za> has joined #manjaro[17:04:23] <magican> /join #archlinux[17:04:29] <magican> bah[17:07:17] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:07:56] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[17:08:07] <UNSC-Marathon> Hello?[17:08:45] <Strit_Laptop> UNSC-Marathon: hi[17:09:13] <UNSC-Marathon> Wondering if anyone was here, I kinda need some help with installing Manjaro[17:10:16] <UNSC-Marathon> Im having issues booting into Manjaro itself, like everything is there, except GRUB doesnt see anything[17:10:38] <magican> Sounds like a UEFI issue?[17:11:01] * magican installad dualboot yesterday, pure arch, win10 on diffrenet disk, grub / UEFI was a pain to sort out.[17:11:07] <UNSC-Marathon> Probably, but i'm not exactly sure how to fix it[17:11:26] <UNSC-Marathon> Om on a MAcbook using rEFInd to dual boot[17:11:33] <magican> Ah[17:12:11] <magican> If u boot from usb or whatever, and then do a os-prober, if that don't find ur install - bad thing.[17:12:33] <UNSC-Marathon> I made a 4gb swap partition, a 250mb ext4 under /boot, and then the rest for root, does that sound correct?[17:12:46] <magican> By mistake I made my install msdos/vfat, not GPT, fucked it up totally.. redid everything with GPT and EFI, then it worked flawless.[17:12:50] *** gebruiker <gebruiker!~gebruiker@77.172.237.233> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:12:52] <magican> Yepp..[17:13:07] <magican> my /dev/sdc1 is -> /boot/ were I have the efi file[17:13:42] <magican> /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/[17:13:48] <Strit_Laptop> UNSC-Marathon: what's the 250 MB ext4 partition for?[17:14:07] <Strit_Laptop> Is the macbook using UEFI?[17:14:10] <magican> Tru dat.. that partion MUST be .. wtf it was.[17:14:15] <magican> forgot it in 10 hrs ;P[17:14:25] <UNSC-Marathon> Yes, and the 250MB was supposedly for bootloader[17:14:50] <magican> Linux VS grub/boot/efi = pain for everyone, and a pain to sort out if it fails.[17:14:50] <Strit_Laptop> If it's UEFI the 250 MB partition needs to be fat32 and mounted at /boot/efi. If not, it should work fine.[17:15:43] <UNSC-Marathon> So 250mb fat32 for bootloader, and then ext4/swap for everything else?[17:15:49] <magican> But, if i understand correct u install manually? The nice GUI installer should fix everything as long u choose right? :)[17:15:56] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. IF the macbook is booting in UEFI.[17:16:08] <UNSC-Marathon> I am using the GUI[17:16:20] <UNSC-Marathon> I'm just doing manual partitions[17:16:38] <UNSC-Marathon> wait[17:17:10] <UNSC-Marathon> If I were to select "Install Manjaro alongside" would that have basically set all this up automatically?[17:17:26] *** oditector <oditector!~diodeee@gateway/tor-sasl/truenicker> has joined #manjaro[17:17:26] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:17:32] <oditector> hi[17:17:42] <Strit_Laptop> Not certain. It might have done some of the work, but you should still double check. :)[17:18:00] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:18:00] <UNSC-Marathon> Okay, thank you guys so much :)[17:18:01] *** manjaro-web|3842 <manjaro-web|3842!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has joined #manjaro[17:18:12] <oditector> no problem UNSC-Marathon[17:18:17] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has left #manjaro[17:18:32] <manjaro-web|3842> hello[17:18:38] <oditector> hello[17:18:43] <oditector> what's up[17:18:44] <manjaro-web|3842> whats new[17:18:54] <manjaro-web|3842> are you a robot[17:19:05] <oditector> no why?[17:19:06] <manjaro-web|3842> the SYSTEM IS ON AUTO[17:19:15] <manjaro-web|3842> TURN IT OFF TURN IT OFF[17:19:17] <oditector> how could I be a robot lol?[17:19:26] <magican> :|[17:19:29] <magican> <-- RoboCop[17:19:51] <manjaro-web|3842> On August 17, 1997 Skynet will be unmanned and operational[17:19:51] <oditector> manjaro-web|3842: i think you are really a bot[17:20:11] <oditector> and I dont like human's[17:20:17] <magican> ping skynet.gov[17:20:21] <oditector> what the hell is skynet[17:20:28] <Strit_Laptop> lol[17:20:34] <oditector> Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6697 [Cannot assign requested[17:20:35] <oditector> address: 142.54.173.92][17:20:44] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ ping www.skynet.org[17:20:46] <magican> PING www.skynet.org (205.178.189.129) 56(84) bytes of data.[17:20:48] <oditector> when i use irssi i get that error[17:20:48] <magican> :O[17:20:50] <magican> Oh noo[17:21:08] <magican> oditector: Haven't u seen terminator?![17:21:42] <manjaro-web|3842> I'm a meteorlogist and would like to study your warm front[17:22:39] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[17:22:47] <oditector> magician yes I have but why are adults playing child like jokes[17:22:51] <manjaro-web|3842> Do you believe in love at first sight?[17:22:52] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[17:23:22] <oditector> manjaro-web|3842: I can't e believe someone as dumb as you could be a meterologist?[17:24:28] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~bernhard@dslb-094-219-213-003.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:24:52] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:41] * magican belive in himself, the allmighty. (and somone have to belive in me) ;P[17:25:50] *** ksilobait <ksilobait!~manjaro-k@188.232.188.26> has joined #manjaro[17:25:53] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:25:59] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.64.183> has joined #manjaro[17:28:55] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:28:57] *** padh <padh!~manjaro-i@LStLambert-657-1-100-120.w90-63.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:29:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@59.88.131.116> has joined #manjaro[17:30:40] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[17:32:47] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:33:24] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:34:35] *** D3r3t1us <D3r3t1us!~grzegorz@89-64-46-197.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[17:34:52] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@59.88.131.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:37:05] *** manjaro-web|3842 <manjaro-web|3842!6c430e43@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.67.14.67> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:37:17] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@a89-183-147-83.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[17:37:31] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@188.163.232.130> has joined #manjaro[17:41:17] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has joined #manjaro[17:41:42] <manjaroCinnamon> Hmm...this systemd startup thing is a real headache.[17:41:50] <oditector> magician i don't believe in you, and you don't have to believe to have someone belive in you to be able to yourself believe in you, IK?[17:42:01] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:42:01] <manjaroCinnamon> Found a topic on the Manjaro forum that actually deals with the exact issue I'm trying to solve.[17:42:06] <oditector> manjaroCinnamon: why?[17:42:11] <manjaroCinnamon> https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=10834.0[17:42:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/D60nhH] [SOLVED] Start g15daemon on startup[17:42:23] <oditector> manawyrm: tell the issue first[17:42:44] <manjaroCinnamon> Which links to a German language post on the Arch forums:[17:42:48] <manjaroCinnamon> https://bbs.archlinux.de/viewtopic.php?pid=301008#p301008[17:42:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gijWcL] [gelöst] systemd und g15daemon / Installation und Konfiguration / bbs.archlinux.de[17:43:21] <manjaroCinnamon> Trying to auto-start g15daemon with systemd basically.[17:43:26] *** Jupiler is now known as ringo[17:43:55] <manjaroCinnamon> I made a systemd service unit, enabled it.[17:44:09] <manjaroCinnamon> It fails to start, because I think it tries to load to early, perhaps.[17:44:38] <theFam> i think there are Before= and After=[17:44:52] <theFam> you can try to make it load after most things[17:45:28] <manjaroCinnamon> Maybe so![17:46:17] <manjaroCinnamon> The poster in that Manjaro forum used a udev rule and a separate script to start it successfully - did the same thing. Still no luck.[17:46:33] *** ksilobait <ksilobait!~manjaro-k@188.232.188.26> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:47:27] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as manjaro-i3tux[17:48:54] <manjaroCinnamon> I confirmed that the keyboard has the same ID via lsusb[17:49:01] <manjaroCinnamon> ID 046d:c222[17:49:12] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C52800CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:49:45] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-113-95-21.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:50:44] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C52800CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:50:49] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[17:51:09] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:51:12] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C52800CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:51:37] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p54A164E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:51:58] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C52800CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:52:10] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has joined #manjaro[17:52:16] <manjaroCinnamon> Oh my god.[17:52:18] <manjaroCinnamon> I fixed it.[17:52:36] <manjaroCinnamon> That's embarrassing. Turns out the script I made was titled wrong.[17:52:40] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[17:52:48] <manjaroCinnamon> Left out the g out of star_g15[17:52:53] <manjaroCinnamon> Er, start_g15[17:53:03] <UNSC-Marathon> Hello I'm back[17:53:07] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p200300D363C52800CDAB1B0BE0ECC63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:53:39] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:53:46] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-126-35-74.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[17:56:22] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[17:56:55] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[17:57:56] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[17:58:16] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:58:22] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)[17:58:48] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:58:52] <Dearu> Did you manage to start g15stats too?[17:59:21] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-8-72.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:59:50] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[18:00:00] <UNSC-Marathon> Okay, so I'm actually back[18:00:26] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2620:cc:8000:93:8209:4495:387d:2850> has joined #manjaro[18:00:42] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has joined #manjaro[18:01:01] <UNSC-Marathon> I made a 250mb fat32 partition for the boot loader when I installed, and i made a slight amount of progress, but not much[18:01:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2620:cc:8000:93:8209:4495:387d:2850> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:01:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@8.22.106.108> has joined #manjaro[18:01:56] <UNSC-Marathon> It would boot into GRUB and then give a message saying it had fallen back to recovery mode, and would then fall again to emergency mode[18:02:14] <UNSC-Marathon> and would never successfully boot, any ideas?[18:03:32] <magican> Almost sound like skiping the part to generate fstab, but guess thats not the case either.[18:05:05] <UNSC-Marathon> rEFInd gives me 3 Linus options to boot, 1 for vmzlinux under 250mb, 1 for legacy OS on 250mb, and 1 to boot entire disk[18:05:23] <UNSC-Marathon> *linux[18:05:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@8.22.106.108> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:06:02] <UNSC-Marathon> And the vmzlinux is the grub thing[18:06:09] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:07:12] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@pD9FD496D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:07:12] *** manjaroi3 is now known as windknopw[18:08:24] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[18:08:46] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[18:09:24] <UNSC-Marathon> I'm not entirely sure how I would fix it, so I came back here for ideas :/[18:10:06] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[18:10:20] <retr0> i need help[18:10:39] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[18:10:50] <retr0> anyone?[18:11:02] <Celmor> !question[18:11:28] <retr0> i deleted osx and have an unformatted partition[18:11:44] <retr0> i wanna delete manjaro n get it back[18:12:02] <Celmor> did you install manjaro on the same partition as osx?[18:12:14] <retr0> i think not[18:12:40] <retr0> i ca[18:12:42] <Celmor> how did you 'delete' osx[18:13:06] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[18:13:08] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:13:11] <retr0> when i boot up my the partition with mac os x[18:13:26] <retr0> it was a blank screen[18:13:26] <Celmor> try again[18:13:33] <retr0> i have[18:13:38] <Celmor> I mean your sentence[18:14:01] <Celmor> how do you 'boot a partition'?[18:14:13] <Celmor> who says your partition is blank[18:14:21] <Celmor> on which partition is manjaro and on which was osx[18:14:32] <Celmor> did you knowlingly delete osx?[18:15:11] <retr0> no[18:15:23] <retr0> i had no knowledge of it[18:15:39] <retr0> i wanted to go back on osx[18:15:48] <retr0> so i decided to reboot my system[18:16:00] <Celmor> first reboot after manjaro install?[18:16:05] <retr0> yeah[18:16:38] <Celmor> so the way you installed manjaro probably messed it up[18:16:47] <retr0> damn[18:16:51] <retr0> any way to fix it?[18:16:51] <Celmor> do you know on which partition manjaro is now and on which osx was?[18:17:26] <retr0> manjaro = sda4[18:17:31] <retr0> osx = sda2[18:17:47] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[18:18:03] <windknopw> maybe just the grub is messed.[18:18:15] <retr0> thats what i rea[18:18:16] <retr0> read[18:18:23] <retr0> but i dont know how to fix it[18:18:29] <Celmor> do the sizes of these partition match up with what they should be for manjaro and for osx?[18:18:57] <retr0> manjaro is 50gb big[18:19:25] <retr0> the osx one (which is unformatted as when it was when i installed mjaro) is 440gb[18:19:43] <Celmor> what was that partition formated with?[18:19:53] <retr0> the osx?[18:19:57] <retr0> or mjaro[18:19:58] <Celmor> yeah[18:20:01] <Celmor> osx[18:20:04] <retr0> osx i dont know[18:20:06] <windknopw> would recommend to try a boot recovery first. create a live usb recovery system with rescatux or sparky rescue[18:20:10] <retr0> ive tried googling it[18:20:24] <retr0> i have a recovery hd partiton[18:20:31] <retr0> i booted thhe mac into safe mode[18:20:42] <windknopw> but you can access it?[18:20:48] <retr0> however when it asks what partition i want to reinstall osx[18:20:49] <Celmor> could be that only manjaro think it's unformatted but it just does not recognize it's filesystem and the fact that it can't boot is just because of a messed up boot loader for osx[18:21:04] <retr0> it only shows the 20gb manjaro partitino[18:21:11] <retr0> thats what i think celmor[18:21:13] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-074.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:21:28] <retr0> it says that if i try and format the data in it will be erased[18:21:47] <Celmor> try to find out what filesystem it had[18:21:56] <retr0> how[18:22:07] <windknopw> dont do that. restore the boot loader with rescatux[18:22:22] <Celmor> probably the default one for macosx, whatever that is[18:22:40] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[18:22:56] <Celmor> windknopw, before he messes up his system further I would first check if that data is still there[18:23:13] <magican> chroot to it?[18:23:13] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[18:23:17] <magican> easy enough?[18:23:29] <retr0> this is all jargon to me[18:23:34] <Celmor> magican, if he could mount it, which he cannot as manjaro apparently does not recognize its filesystem[18:23:36] <retr0> this is my first distro ever[18:23:42] <windknopw> sounds like oxs is still present[18:23:55] <Celmor> you can use testdisk on that disk, it can analyse it for filesystems no matter the partition layout[18:24:00] *** naxs <naxs!02548f96@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.84.143.150> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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DKMS version[18:26:40] <magican> there are some things to try, to mount it.[18:26:50] <Celmor> I would first try toi mount it readonly though[18:27:07] <Celmor> testdisk apparently should work with hfs formatted partition so I would try that[18:27:21] <magican> So, manjaro -> mac install = not 100% finetuned? :)[18:27:34] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@pD951839F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:27:47] <UNSC-Marathon> Not at all[18:27:51] <magican> Worth asking the devs (sometimes here) or forum perhaps?[18:27:52] <Celmor> retr0, are you currently booted into manjaro?[18:28:57] <Celmor> run `sudo testdisk /dev/sdX` with X replaced to the disk osx is on, install testdisk if needed (sudo pacman -S testdisk)[18:29:31] <retr0> yes im in manjaro[18:30:17] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has left #manjaro[18:31:05] <retr0> what do i press[18:31:08] <retr0> ive gone onto mac[18:31:34] <Celmor> what do you mean you've gone onto mac[18:31:39] <retr0> the partition[18:31:44] <Celmor> this should be able to help with testdisk: https://perrohunter.com/repair-a-mac-os-x-hfs-partition-table/[18:31:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JQFbd5] (link was unresponsive: https://perrohunter.com/repair-a-mac-os-x-hfs-partition-table/)[18:31:59] <retr0> ok thanks[18:32:24] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p54A164E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:33:04] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:34:15] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[18:34:50] <UNSC-Marathon> Keep getting disconnected from wake/sleep cycles on iPad[18:35:30] <UNSC-Marathon> so does anyone have experience installing OS X on a Mac?[18:36:08] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p54A164E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:36:28] <magican> Do many of u run KDE / similar with a shitload of effects etc?? I admit, I was like that before, now it's openbox as clean as possible, opssite :D[18:36:42] <magican> Just courious[18:36:59] <UNSC-Marathon> XFCE everywhere[18:37:00] *** oditector <oditector!~diodeee@gateway/tor-sasl/truenicker> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[18:37:39] <magican> Openbox + LXDE and XFCE good parts = win :) i.m.o.[18:38:18] <UNSC-Marathon> okay so I have to be doing something wrong here[18:38:44] <UNSC-Marathon> Manjaro installed perfectly (for the 4th time) and everything is there[18:38:53] <retr0> im using kde[18:38:53] <Celmor> I tried KDE, liked their appplication, now I switched to i3-wm and still have to use some of their applications and have regularly problems with QT stuff because of their applications[18:39:00] <retr0> it was great at the start[18:39:00] <UNSC-Marathon> got my swap, got my 250mb fat32 boot,order,[18:39:04] <retr0> but it keeps freezing[18:39:10] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:39:11] <UNSC-Marathon> *bootloader[18:39:35] <UNSC-Marathon> but I can't even boot into it, and I'm not understanding why[18:39:40] <manj-budgie> Hi again, still can't solve my broken budgie installation, getting xfce iso now :/[18:39:40] <magican> Celmor: Aye! QT 4/5, not Qt, gtk 2/3.. COMEON .. too often it fcks up, and despite a good theme, som stupid program can look different.[18:39:45] <Celmor> I really like the i3 community edition, but can't just switch to it since I would have to reinstall everything[18:39:52] <magican> Pretty much the only thing that anoys me a lot with linux[18:40:13] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:40:20] <manj-budgie> only blank white screen after bootup[18:40:27] <magican> manj-budgie: Download arch, get a good youtube guide, 2.4Kg candy, and u good to go![18:40:34] <magican> (cigg and coffe is optional)[18:40:36] <magican> ;P[18:40:38] <manj-budgie> booted live image from iso works like a charm though[18:40:49] <Celmor> yeah, I'm unable to change the QT themes at all anymore, even though looking into the KDE settings that I still have, it only offers me to change the themes of GTK applications, KDE applications are just too dependend on the KDE environment[18:41:36] <manj-budgie> 2.4kg candy during one arch installation magican? ;P[18:41:50] <magican> Celmor: Yepp.. at least in gtk there are 2/3 compatible themes, but usually not the ones I like.[18:42:18] <magican> manj-budgie: haha, yepp, takes a while after install, config, finetune, etc.. and more is ALWAYS better..[18:42:36] <Celmor> only problems I had with gtk themes is black text boxes and black font in firefox, but there was already a solution in the troubleshooting section in the arch wiki article :)[18:42:50] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.96.88> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:43:09] *** manjaro-i3tux <manjaro-i3tux!~manjaro-k@a89-183-147-83.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:43:33] <manj-budgie> last time i tried arch-anywhere, that was pretty neat to use, compared to manual arch installation[18:44:02] <Celmor> arch install isn't that hard, getting all applications you want and having them work and customized, getting drivers like bluetooth work with e,g, wireless bluetooth headset is a pain[18:45:13] <manj-budgie> fresh arch install is beatiful, but takes some time until everything is working the way you want. i just wanted a neat manjaro budgie installation, but unfortunately it's not working for me :/[18:45:55] <manj-budgie> non-free live image doesn't work too (radeon chip)[18:45:56] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbhqwvplnowjrisq> has joined #manjaro[18:45:57] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@188.163.232.130> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:46:14] <manj-budgie> hope the xfce version will work out of the box[18:46:29] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:46:44] <xangua> Huh[18:46:46] <manj-budgie> can't do much research or bugfix, because virtual console doesN't work too[18:46:52] <Celmor> i915 (for intel iGPU) is also really buggy[18:47:05] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!uid205280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qevdsvysysdtbdlo> has joined #manjaro[18:48:03] *** manjaroi3_ is now known as Celgost[18:48:15] *** Matombo444 <Matombo444!~Matombo@pD95189DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:48:21] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[18:50:53] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:51:54] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@pD951839F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:52:56] *** notis <notis!~notis@46.246.133.176.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[18:53:40] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:54:03] <manj-budgie> what i don't understand is, that the live usb media works, but the hd installation is not :/[18:54:12] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[18:54:13] <xangua> Oh[18:54:20] <xangua> :-([18:54:40] <manj-budgie> yeah :/[18:55:04] <Celmor> yeah, I know that problem[18:55:56] <manj-budgie> and big minuspoint to the "new" calamares installer, i miss the comfortable luks disc encryption that was provided some versions ago[18:57:44] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@97-81-120-81.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:58:10] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[18:58:26] <Celgost> how is budgie man ? manj-budgie[18:59:02] <manj-budgie> budgie has a nice out of the box look and seems to be pretty neat and relative low on ressources.[18:59:15] <manj-budgie> but hd installation doesn't work for me[18:59:32] <manj-budgie> getting just a white blank screen and nothing works[19:00:16] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has joined #manjaro[19:00:17] *** UNSC-Marathon <UNSC-Marathon!177c424d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.124.66.77> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:05:49] <windknopw> sounds like a graphic card problem[19:07:35] <magican> AMD / Nvidia? You can choose what to use whith mhwd-gpu --setgl[19:07:49] <magican> tried both drivers?[19:08:23] <magican> And yepp, when u see that white screen, do ctrl+alt + f1 give u just the terminal?[19:08:31] <magican> If so, def gpu driver issue[19:09:01] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:09:23] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:09:36] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[19:11:29] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[19:12:17] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@apn-95-41-102-219.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:12:39] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@apn-95-41-102-219.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:14:20] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:16:14] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[19:18:20] *** Monro_ <Monro_!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[19:19:33] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[19:20:10] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.64.183> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:20:38] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[19:53:22] <manj-budgie> oh hey magican, windknopw was a bit afk- it's and amd qc5000 itx with onboard graphic chip/apu.[19:53:48] <manj-budgie> and magican, no i can't reach virtual console, it's just blank black screen then[19:54:09] <manj-budgie> non-free driver installation doesn't boot[19:54:41] <manj-budgie> free driver installation boots from live usb but get white screen when booting from hd after installation[19:54:57] <manj-budgie> md5sum matches[19:55:21] <manj-budgie> still downloading the xfce iso[19:56:07] <windknopw> strange[19:56:09] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-220-68.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[19:56:09] <manj-budgie> hope that this issue is related to the budgiewm/graphicscard combination[19:57:36] <manj-budgie> but i'm unable to do any changes, because virtual console isn't working :/[19:57:38] <windknopw> i used archbang for a while. still not real arch ... but the day will come :D[19:58:12] <windknopw> what was your gpu?[19:59:01] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-201-108.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:59:35] <manj-budgie> it's amd qc5000 itx mainboard with a4-5000 quadcore apu[20:00:10] <manj-budgie> and my first manjaro experience with that system[20:01:43] *** chomwitt2 <chomwitt2!~chomwitt@athedsl-351879.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:02:02] <windknopw> radeon card?[20:02:12] <manj-budgie> yeah amd chip[20:02:33] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:02:55] <manj-budgie> integrated on mainboard, no extra gpu[20:04:04] <windknopw> hm, i remember that there was a possibility to boot with vesa drivers. did not work also i guess? maybe its something else.. ssd drive ?[20:04:21] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-220-68.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:04:30] <manj-budgie> no ssd drive, oldschool hd[20:05:02] <manj-budgie> do you know where i find the option to boot with vesa drivers?[20:05:25] <manj-budgie> have still 2hrs left until xfce iso dl is completed[20:05:29] <windknopw> i guess the wizard would know spontaneously. i have to search... one mom[20:06:03] <manj-budgie> bios and grub are the only things that work atm[20:06:32] <manj-budgie> i reached the budgie greeter once, but it was barely responding[20:07:18] <windknopw> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/842[20:07:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PBVRtF] Fixing the black screen after grub boot-up (screen/video settings mismatch) - Linux Mint Community[20:07:27] <windknopw> theres a description[20:08:01] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:08:06] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:08:20] *** D3r3t1us is now known as DeretiusAFK[20:08:32] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[20:08:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[20:10:14] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@93.75.254.222> has joined #manjaro[20:11:08] <manj-budgie> thx i will try[20:11:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[20:13:14] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[20:13:29] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:13:44] <magican> May the force be with him[20:16:25] <windknopw> and may his little budgie fly again[20:16:58] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:17:43] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:18:20] <magican> Sooo, anyone bother making conkys?[20:18:26] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[20:19:11] *** chomwitt3 <chomwitt3!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-200-118.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:19:34] <magican> http://imgur.com/a/O9QDM[20:19:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/X9x9Z7] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[20:19:36] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[20:19:47] <magican> Mine at the moment.[20:20:56] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[20:21:58] *** chomwitt2 <chomwitt2!~chomwitt@athedsl-351879.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:22:30] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[20:22:53] *** thid <thid!~thid@93-181-168-49.internetia.net.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:23:01] <thid> damit I forgot to logout in work[20:23:08] <Celmor> anyone here using the i3 communiy edition?[20:23:26] <magican> Negative. Openbox here[20:23:46] <thid> deepin[20:24:14] <thid> anyone used LXC Web Panel on manjaro/arch?[20:24:32] <magican> Nope, worth tryin?[20:24:33] *** chomwitt4 <chomwitt4!~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-61-87.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:24:33] <windknopw> nice. the cpu bars & the storages[20:24:47] <windknopw> yea i do[20:24:52] <windknopw> i3[20:25:28] <magican> windknopw: Mean the conky? Thanks in that case, quite a lot commented out, still tuning it, but think I'm happy now.[20:25:37] <magican> updates is a supereasy bashscript with execi[20:26:00] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer)[20:26:32] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[20:26:36] <magican> pacman -Qu | wc -l <-- gives no of updates. BUT u have to pacman -Syu aswell, I have that in a crontab.[20:27:03] <magican> So prettymuch, $1 = pacman -Qu | wc -l , then just print $1[20:27:07] <magican> easypeasy[20:27:15] *** chomwitt3 <chomwitt3!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-200-118.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:28:52] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@5.174.126.50> has joined #manjaro[20:28:55] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~bernhard@dslb-094-219-213-003.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:30:33] <dodgejcr> my conky. well not mine but what I am using currently http://i.imgur.com/L37eM3Y.png[20:30:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/svKaYI] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[20:30:35] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has joined #manjaro[20:30:53] <thid> my old openbox <3 http://imgur.com/a/ryUZw[20:30:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EVenTi] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[20:31:49] <thid> still have no idea what to do with deepin[20:31:58] <dodgejcr> lol thid I use that one on my kde install[20:32:04] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-pelgarjvjswpdjzi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:32:16] <dodgejcr> I enjoy it. Works well for 8-core desktop[20:32:44] <thid> dodgejcr, ikr, I did heavy mode it[20:33:03] <thid> from the orginal to have proper fan support and other stuffs[20:33:23] <thid> hell took me awhile to chose font xD[20:33:47] <dodgejcr> although I may put that one from the screenshot on the desktop. I need to fix some alignment stuffs[20:34:45] <windknopw> hehe nice .. colours thid @openbox[20:35:21] <thid> thx[20:36:03] *** SpinningWheels <SpinningWheels!~SpinningW@unaffiliated/spinningwheels> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-152-223-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** teo- <teo-!~teo@kde/teo> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** SyneArdwin <SyneArdwin!~quassel@cpe-72-129-148-102.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:03] *** Nephe <Nephe!~quassel@nephe.fr> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:36:04] <magican> dodgejcr: Someone spent som time on that :) Very nice![20:36:21] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[20:36:31] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:36:42] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-152-223-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #manjaro[20:37:09] *** Nephe <Nephe!~quassel@nephe.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:37:27] *** SyneArdwin <SyneArdwin!~quassel@cpe-72-129-148-102.new.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[20:37:41] *** bryz <bryz!~bryz@198.50.192.151> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:37:50] *** bryz <bryz!~bryz@198.50.192.151> has joined #manjaro[20:37:54] <magican> Hum[20:38:04] <magican> win => origin => BF1 ? Naah.. or..?[20:38:09] <magican> anyone tried?[20:38:30] *** ToeSnacks <ToeSnacks!sid84043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvuhnewgrsouqrra> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:39:08] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[20:40:05] *** ToeSnacks <ToeSnacks!sid84043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icztwxcyaxrtfszv> has joined #manjaro[20:40:11] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[20:40:30] <thid> http://imgur.com/a/P6bbH - I loved this one[20:40:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/CBtt79] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[20:40:52] <manj-budgie> hey windknopw could you please repost the last link since my system isn't persistent atm[20:41:09] <windknopw> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/842[20:41:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PBVRtF] Fixing the black screen after grub boot-up (screen/video settings mismatch) - Linux Mint Community[20:41:17] <manj-budgie> thx[20:43:07] <magican> Soooo... any good tip for fun stuff to do? Blender is one of them, what else? Ideas?[20:43:17] <magican> amiga eulator perhaps.[20:43:26] <thid> hmm[20:43:34] <thid> kvm + vga passthru[20:44:58] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:45:18] *** teo- <teo-!~teo@kde/teo> has joined #manjaro[20:45:29] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjjroyiwbuuwoylc> has joined #manjaro[20:45:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[20:46:00] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Back to Work)[20:46:03] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:47:33] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~Thunderbi@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[20:49:19] *** rgh <rgh!~rob@145.130.225.41> has joined #manjaro[20:49:19] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has joined #manjaro[20:51:27] *** gebruiker <gebruiker!~gebruiker@77.172.237.233> has joined #manjaro[20:51:36] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[20:51:36] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:51:37] *** rgh <rgh!~rob@145.130.225.41> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:51:49] <gebruiker> what is the default font again ? - manjaro xfce[20:53:30] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-cfbf-0-92f5-d248-8de0-d0eb.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:55:10] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:56:26] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[20:56:52] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[20:58:15] *** manjaro-web|2140 <manjaro-web|2140!31cf81ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.207.129.174> has joined #manjaro[20:58:44] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjjroyiwbuuwoylc> has quit IRC ()[20:59:10] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has joined #manjaro[20:59:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[20:59:35] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@x2f7fcfb.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[21:00:01] <manj-budgie> unfortunately no success...[21:00:02] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:00:47] <manj-budgie> i tried to reach virtual console and do a sys upgrade, but even with nomodeset i get an amd gpu error and system boots into mafunctioning graphical enviroment[21:01:02] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[21:01:06] <manjaro-web|2140> Hi, Just a few hours ago, I said goodbye to windows and installed manjaro. Now i want to install mint alongside manjaro but cant seem to boot with usb. manjaro has taken over boot and bios menu. can someone help?[21:01:10] <manj-budgie> so there is a chance that the stable xfce iso won't work too?[21:01:21] *** D3mian <D3mian!~dcarron@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:02:03] <manj-budgie> manjaro-web|2140, you have to press a key while in bios splash screen[21:02:19] <Jeannie> Manjaro can't take over the bios menu[21:02:30] <manj-budgie> it's usally esc f2 f11 or f12 and there is usually a hint at the bios splash screen[21:03:34] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:03:35] *** sk1pp <sk1pp!~skipp@144.160.98.96> has joined #manjaro[21:04:06] <manj-budgie> first distro i tested with this system was lubuntu, because it was the only remaining "full" distro i could use without internet connection. and except that lubunut is just a buggy distro, i had no driver issues with free and proprietary drivers[21:04:26] <manjaro-web|2140> manj-budgie, i did use the keys but it went straight to manjaro ... thats why i said manjaro has taken over....during installation i opted for erase disk...did that cause this issue?[21:05:14] <thid> is windows that bad?[21:05:35] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:05:51] <manj-budgie> manjaro-web|2140, try it again after you've shutdown your pc completly[21:06:05] <manj-budgie> soetimes it's bit buggy after just doing a reboot[21:06:13] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:06:14] <manj-budgie> so complete shutdown[21:06:17] <Jeannie> Not even grub is being loaded when that happens, so Manjaro can't take it over[21:06:19] *** Oachkatzl_ <Oachkatzl_!~Oachkatzl@62-46-158-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[21:06:19] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has joined #manjaro[21:06:23] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as kirlon[21:06:25] <manj-budgie> then start again and press key for enter boot menu[21:06:40] *** kirlon is now known as manjaro-kde5__[21:06:52] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as kirlon[21:06:56] <kirlon> hello ?[21:07:04] <Jeannie> Hello[21:07:09] <kirlon> I am new to Manjaro[21:07:15] <kirlon> I switched from Ubuntu[21:07:15] <Jeannie> Welcome[21:07:27] <kirlon> Very gracious of you. thank you :)[21:07:34] <manjaro-web|2140> manj-budgie, did that 4 times before i thought of seeking help here...but what the heck, will try once again..thanks.[21:07:49] <kirlon> Is there a GUI app for managing users and groups ?[21:07:56] <kirlon> changing UID, GID, etc[21:08:02] *** manjaro-web|2140 <manjaro-web|2140!31cf81ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.207.129.174> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[21:08:18] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~bernhard@dslb-094-219-213-003.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[21:08:44] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[21:09:12] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[21:09:22] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@178-191-20-185.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:09:49] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:09:53] <kirlon> any1 ?[21:10:14] <kirlon> GUI app for managing users and groups? changing UID, GID ?[21:10:29] <thid> manjaro-settings-manager?[21:11:24] <kirlon> It allows only to add/remove users and set/unset them as admin[21:11:37] <kirlon> I need to change UID and GID as well[21:12:03] *** manjaro-web|8279 <manjaro-web|8279!31cf81ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.207.129.174> has joined #manjaro[21:12:20] <kirlon> need to reboot. be back soon[21:12:23] <thid> what for ?[21:13:03] *** kirlon <kirlon!~manjaro-k@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:13:30] <manjaro-web|8279> manj-badgie, it says something like cannot get into boot splash, no such file found. any suggestions?[21:14:36] <manj-budgie> oO and if you try to change the boot order in the bios directly?[21:15:13] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:15:28] <manj-budgie> so first bootable device would be usb stick and not sda[21:15:40] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:15:47] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@217.23.12.241> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:16:42] <manjaro-web|8279> it opens up boot menu but it has just one option..manjaro...there is another tab there for diagnostics and it shows my bootable usb but when i touch any key it leaves that page...so laptop is reading usb but cannot boot with it[21:16:54] <magican> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsfiocDyIg[21:16:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Hzo7C3] ARCH LINUX VS MANJARO 0.8.12 - YouTube[21:16:59] <magican> manjaro vs arch :O[21:17:10] * magican grab a beer and must see that..[21:17:27] <thid> sounds like bad made stick[21:17:56] *** DeretiusAFK <DeretiusAFK!~grzegorz@89-64-46-197.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:18:12] <manjaro-web|8279> na man, it checked it on my other machine and it works fine[21:19:31] *** DeretiusAFK <DeretiusAFK!~grzegorz@89-64-7-87.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:20:43] <thid> the other machine is also uefi ?[21:22:40] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:22:55] <manjaro-web|8279> i am not that much tech savvy...i think bios, the one i having issues in was bios too[21:22:55] <retr0> im afk sorry[21:23:35] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[21:24:49] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:25:04] <manjaro-web|8279> i used unetbootin for making bootable usb...it went smoothly and i can see the files on usb...the other machine booted with usb[21:25:23] *** retr0 <retr0!02dd7951@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[21:25:52] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:25:57] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:27:01] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[21:27:23] <manj-budgie> unetbootin is often problematic when creating usb devices[21:27:32] <manj-budgie> just launch up your manjaro[21:27:33] <magican> manjaro-web|8279: In my BIOS I can choose D: blabla, or D: (UEFI) blabla[21:27:44] <magican> same usb, but with/without uefi boot[21:27:51] <manj-budgie> check out if your usb drive is /dev/sdb[21:28:54] <manj-budgie> and then open terminal and type "sudo dd bs=1M if=~/path/to/you/name.iso of=/dev/sdx" and hit enter[21:30:20] *** manj-budgie is now known as tripout[21:31:25] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:31:46] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~bernhard@dslb-094-219-213-003.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:55] <tripout> and be sure that at least md5sum matches[21:35:39] *** gebruiker <gebruiker!~gebruiker@77.172.237.233> has left #manjaro[21:38:27] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@77.49.154.33.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[21:38:44] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@5.174.126.50> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:38:44] *** notis <notis!~notis@46.246.133.176.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:38:56] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:40:02] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has joined #manjaro[21:40:09] <manjaro-kde5__> hello again[21:40:54] <manjaro-kde5__> does anyone here familiar with GUI application to manage users and groups? change GID and UID ?[21:40:59] <manjaro-kde5__> not just add/remove users[21:41:05] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[21:41:05] *** tmsbrdrs is now known as tmsbrdrs_[21:41:55] <manjaro-kde5__> Hello ?[21:42:10] *** Oachkatzl_ <Oachkatzl_!~Oachkatzl@62-46-158-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:42:30] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@62-46-158-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[21:42:40] <manjaro-kde5__> anyone alive here ?[21:42:47] <magican> find a nice dark theme that make both gtk2 and 3 look good is hard![21:43:02] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as kirlon[21:43:06] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-76-229-94.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:43:20] <kirlon> any1 here can help a newbie in manjaro ?[21:43:33] <magican> with?[21:43:40] <kirlon> changing UID and GID[21:43:50] <kirlon> using GUI (I know how to do it in command line)[21:45:21] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:45:55] *** manjaro-web|8279 <manjaro-web|8279!31cf81ae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.207.129.174> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[21:46:05] <kirlon> I'm guessing its more complicated then I thought ?[21:47:05] <windknopw> ever tried antergos, magican?[21:48:19] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has joined #manjaro[21:48:40] <kirlon> so ... I'm guessing thats a no on my question :)[21:49:22] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:49:50] <kirlon> its very quiet here[21:50:33] <kirlon> either I am not connected and speaking to myself, or most people join automatically during logon, and do not actually open the IRC channel[21:50:53] <Jeannie> GTK theming is the sheer horror, magician[21:51:40] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has joined #manjaro[21:51:43] <kirlon> well ... whomever going to read this - have a pleasent evening/night :)[21:51:53] <thid> kirlon, for stuffs like that most use command line since ur suppose to know what ur doing[21:52:02] <thid> aka garder to get "gui" that aims for newbs[21:52:07] <thid> harder*[21:53:33] <kirlon> I know what I'm doing in command line. but establishing 10 users on the machine with specific UID is a pain[21:53:51] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[21:53:52] <kirlon> Ubuntu/Fedora/Debian has this nice app.[21:54:12] <kirlon> I hoped arch has something similar[21:54:44] <thid> if u remember app name perhaps its in aur[21:55:55] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[21:56:16] <kirlon> in fedora its "system-config-users"[21:56:28] <kirlon> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/12/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-users-groups.html#s2-redhat-config-users-user-new[21:56:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/icv2jy] Chapter 22. Users and Groups[21:56:35] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:59:59] <thid> hmm[22:00:27] <thid> kirlon, how about gnome-system-tools ?[22:00:27] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@37.166.129.163> has joined #manjaro[22:00:29] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:00:52] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@37.166.129.163> has left #manjaro[22:01:20] <thid> afair that one was used in debian[22:02:29] <thid> its in aur[22:04:21] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-76-229-94.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:08:50] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@apn-46-76-140-251.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:09:59] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[22:10:10] *** kirlon <kirlon!~manjaro-k@bzq-82-81-163-150.red.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:10:15] <windknopw> budgie-man how's your xfce?[22:10:35] *** SpinningWheels <SpinningWheels!~SpinningW@pool-100-4-92-126.nrflva.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[22:10:44] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@169-1-165-22.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[22:10:45] *** SpinningWheels <SpinningWheels!~SpinningW@pool-100-4-92-126.nrflva.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:10:45] *** SpinningWheels <SpinningWheels!~SpinningW@unaffiliated/spinningwheels> has joined #manjaro[22:11:15] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@169-1-165-22.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:12:45] <tripout> windknopw, still downloading :/[22:12:56] <tripout> 1mbit is max here[22:13:09] *** Monro_ <Monro_!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has left #manjaro[22:13:29] <tripout> time for food[22:14:07] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Quit: Me fail English? That's unpossible.)[22:14:09] *** Celgost <Celgost!~manjaro-i@psz34-1-88-167-224-119.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:16:37] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[22:17:33] <SpinningWheels> my computer boots up into a blinking line. what logs can i look at to find out why?[22:18:19] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-164-40.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:18:33] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:21:40] *** Hobbyboy <Hobbyboy!Hobbyboy@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-xjqluwzxrsdhuond> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:22:56] <tripout> SpinningWheels, which iso?[22:23:00] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:23:40] <tripout> and you can try to edit the grub boot entry when you type "e" while in grub menu at manjaro menu entry[22:24:00] <tripout> then there's a line starting with "linux" and ending with "quiet splash"[22:24:05] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[22:24:18] <tripout> and you can disable splash by just changing it to "nosplash"[22:24:48] <tripout> then you can follow the bootup process and maybe will see an error with graphicscard[22:25:05] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:25:22] *** Matombo444 <Matombo444!~Matombo@pD95189DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:25:23] <SpinningWheels> i installed 16.06.01, but the installation has been used for a while and is fully up to date.[22:25:35] *** rghvdberg <rghvdberg!~rob@145.130.225.41> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:26:04] <SpinningWheels> im convinced there is some graphics driver or something problem and i've been doing what i can figure out to "fix' that. however nothing i do changes anything for good or bad.[22:26:09] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[22:28:01] <tripout> try the "nosplash" thing and follow the boot process again[22:28:04] <SpinningWheels> *or some graphical problem[22:28:05] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has joined #manjaro[22:28:26] <tripout> it should return you an errorcode there[22:28:27] <SpinningWheels> ok. what am i looking for?[22:28:29] <SpinningWheels> ok[22:28:55] <windknopw> this channel should be called "boot problems united!"[22:31:09] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:31:26] <SpinningWheels> i think boot issues are the most unknown waters. it works once, you never play with it until it breaks and when it breaks it's usually when you needed to do something so its omg i need this to work instead of lets play with this while i youtube for an hour[22:31:41] *** thid <thid!~thid@93-181-168-49.internetia.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:31:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[22:31:59] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@93.75.254.222> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:32:22] <SpinningWheels> well i don't know what happened but when i changed quiet splash to nosplash it flickered and my screen went dead[22:33:44] <tripout> try it again and add "grub_gfxmode=1280x720x24" and "nomodeset"[22:33:52] <tripout> at the and of the line[22:34:03] <tripout> and nosplash[22:34:18] <tripout> *end[22:35:21] <SpinningWheels> ok[22:36:51] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.87.164> has joined #manjaro[22:37:19] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.87.164> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:38:55] <SpinningWheels> i don't get any error codes but it does stop on Starting Light Display Manager[22:39:47] <SpinningWheels> thank you for the help. i'm going to keep this configuration as my standard grub configuration. having nothing to go on was driving me crazy.[22:39:47] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-125-234.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:41:01] <windknopw> anyone ever did a bios update?[22:41:19] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:41:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[22:42:34] *** Hobbyboy <Hobbyboy!Hobbyboy@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-djnmwrnolsdoleec> has joined #manjaro[22:42:45] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:43:42] <SpinningWheels> my lightdm var log says Can't launch X server X, not found in path[22:45:23] <tripout> it's possible that it's caused by nomodeset[22:45:42] <tripout> because usually you don't boot into graphical enviroment then if i'm right[22:46:07] <SpinningWheels> i use xfce[22:46:12] <tripout> try it once again, without nomodeset[22:46:18] <SpinningWheels> ok[22:51:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:51:29] <tripout> but with the nomode set you're able to rund updates and change graphicsdrivers if that helps[22:51:36] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[22:51:45] <tripout> *run[22:54:20] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[22:54:29] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@156.213.231.103> has joined #manjaro[22:54:34] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:56:47] <SpinningWheels> tripout: omitting the nomodeset causes the screen to flicker out[22:58:29] <tripout> hm, sounds really like you have a graphics driver issue. only think i could suggest now is updating your sys with nomodeset in virtual console and maybe reinstall graphicsdrivers[22:59:00] <SpinningWheels> ive tried that and it has not worked. how can i reinstall graphics drivers in chroot?[22:59:33] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:00:50] <SpinningWheels> i did something yesterday that removed the ati drivers and installed xf86-video-driver[23:01:30] <windknopw> which system are you trying to enter?[23:01:30] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:01:44] <tripout> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Configure_Graphics_Cards[23:01:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/iXuLaS] Configure Graphics Cards - Manjaro Linux[23:01:55] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has joined #manjaro[23:02:57] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:03:55] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-103-218.voxdsl.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:04:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@169-1-177-98.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[23:04:21] *** sk1pp <sk1pp!~skipp@144.160.98.96> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[23:05:57] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-122-127.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[23:06:18] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[23:06:55] <windknopw> maybe switch back to ati with mhwd-gpu ?[23:07:56] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:08:47] <tripout> oh no! i hate my fucking slow net, md5sum doesn't match! :o download the whole shit again?[23:08:55] <tripout> this is really not my day xD[23:14:15] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@220-143-3-231.dynamic.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[23:14:16] <windknopw> oh :([23:14:43] <windknopw> hmmm. maybe you could try the netversion?[23:14:52] <windknopw> its smaller[23:15:07] <windknopw> and you can still install xfce or budgie from there[23:15:17] <tripout> yeah will do[23:16:35] <windknopw> if you are looking for a low resource wm and are fine with tiling, i rrecommend the i3 community edition... but its still over 1 gb to download[23:21:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:197e:bd00:b583:e495:f755:c1a4> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:21:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined #manjaro[23:22:16] <bugzbunny> lol[23:22:28] <bugzbunny> I just came back from Micro Center, lol, bent the CPU pins[23:22:32] <bugzbunny> >>[23:22:35] <bugzbunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise (x64) • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (3.20GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (6.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 861.7 GiB / 931.5 GiB (69.8 GiB Free) • VGA: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics • Uptime: 1m 21s[23:22:38] <bugzbunny> w00t[23:23:02] * bugzbunny stress test cpu[23:23:04] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:23:26] <bugzbunny> Windows 10 boot up without a hitch....w00t.. like nothing happened[23:23:32] <NanoSector> Sysinfo for 'rick-laptop': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.8.5 on Arch Linux powered by Linux 4.10.0-rc2-mainline, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz at 2300-2580/2600 MHz, RAM: 2188/7867 MB, Storage: 49/345 GB, 163 procs, 0.98h up[23:24:03] <bugzbunny> :) \0/[23:24:30] * NanoSector is still waiting for his iMac to upgrade to win10[23:24:31] * bugzbunny stress cpu stability[23:24:41] <NanoSector> and it's slightly starting to annoy me that everything related to updates hangs Windows[23:24:46] <bugzbunny> Windows 10 on a iMac!!![23:24:46] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[23:24:51] <bugzbunny> >.>[23:25:03] <NanoSector> like, it gets stuck at searching updates, downloading updates, installing updates..[23:25:51] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:26:01] * bugzbunny suggest wsus repair[23:26:54] * NanoSector suggests uninstalling windows[23:27:05] * bugzbunny claps[23:27:18] * NanoSector rips off bugzbunny's hands[23:27:22] <bugzbunny> :-p[23:27:28] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:27:28] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[23:27:43] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[23:29:39] * bugzbunny doesn't think turbo core is enabled.. hmmm[23:30:57] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[23:31:52] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:32:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.221.121.81> has joined 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ERROR: Hook 'plymouth' cannot be found[23:33:38] <sunn> I just got four of these messages during an update[23:34:38] <sunn> I found this solution, but I'm too inexperienced to implement it https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=13981.0[23:34:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/FgRLEC] How to add the hook Plymouth ?[23:36:04] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@156.213.231.103> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:36:18] *** manjaro-web|8141 <manjaro-web|8141!4db4dc40@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.180.220.64> has joined #manjaro[23:36:24] *** manjaro-web|8141 <manjaro-web|8141!4db4dc40@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.180.220.64> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:36:28] <tripout> SpinningWheels, success?[23:36:56] <sunn> I figured it out! Newbie win! :D[23:48:34] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:49:22] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[23:51:01] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:51:35] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:53:18] *** Ethel <Ethel!~manjaro-i@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f867-212.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[23:53:32] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579905F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:54:45] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:54:51] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:56:10] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:56:23] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@pool-68-133-8-218.bflony.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[23:58:03] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[23:58:13] <CountryfiedLinux> Howdy![23:58:38] <windknopw> Howdy fella[23:59:22] <tripout> Heya