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[00:00:02] <bugzbunny> :)
[00:00:12] <rhg136> I'm also banned on several sites at home for that ip
[00:00:13] <bugzbunny> It's the same with cell phone numbers
[00:00:29] <bugzbunny> You guy a number and bill collectors calling you all day long
[00:00:33] <bugzbunny> s/guy/get/
[00:00:43] <rhg136> mhm
[00:01:09] <bugzbunny> "I just got this number", "Can I speak to Mr. Mike. I am bugzbunny not Mr. Mike"
[00:01:13] <bugzbunny> xD >.>
[00:01:56] <rhg136> I'm sadistic and report them for solisciting
[00:02:12] <rhg136> unwanted I mean
[00:02:20] <rhg136> and harassment
[00:02:43] <bugzbunny> Well, the courts might not see it that way but whatever, I just got a new number :)
[00:03:07] <bugzbunny> But too bad for you about that IP, getting a VPN, is like paying for Internet + paying for Internet again
[00:03:07] <rhg136> Serves them right
[00:03:09] <bugzbunny> :|
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[00:12:22] <rhg136> I know, what I do is as soon as I hear a name I do not know I hang up
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[00:31:16] <DC42> yo
[00:31:40] <rhg136> oy
[00:31:46] <DC42> Anyone know how to turn off composite on XFCE4? I got an ES1000 Adapter in this server and it's not liking it
[00:32:40] <rhg136> in wm settings there is a checkbox iirc
[00:32:48] <DC42> kk
[00:32:50] <DC42> I will check it
[00:33:04] <DC42> Canonical gets a Darwin award
[00:33:26] <rhg136> they deserve it
[00:33:32] <DC42> damn right
[00:33:46] <DC42> 16.04 won't work on an of my HP Proliants now
[00:33:49] <DC42> oh well
[00:33:56] <DC42> Time for some Manjaro <3
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[00:35:30] <rhg136> seeing as this is #manjaro I agree
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[00:49:41] <DC42> Compositor Enable/Disable was under "Window Manager Tweaks" @rhg136. Works nicely now thank you. :)
[00:49:44] <bugzbunny> I am trying to remember a sci-fi show, where they woke up, and civilazation this guy kept people in suspended and would wake up a few people to start a civilazation
[00:50:15] <rhg136> np, DC42
[00:50:43] <rhg136> bugzbunny: sounds familiar
[00:51:01] <manjaroCinnamon> Hey, could anyone shed some light onto certain traffic I am seeing with Wireshark? Just want to figure out if it has something to do with Manjaro Cinnamon itself.
[00:51:20] <bugzbunny> Then people would kill each other and he would start over.. And you can't talk about the past
[00:51:30] <bugzbunny> and there was cameras every where
[00:51:58] <DC42> Truman Show?
[00:52:00] <DC42> lol
[00:52:03] <DC42> no idea
[00:52:30] <bugzbunny> nah, it's not a movie, it's a series
[00:52:50] <bugzbunny> This FBI when to investigate a disapperance
[00:53:05] <DC42> sounds interesting for sure
[00:53:05] <bugzbunny> He woke up in a town like 200 years later
[00:53:24] <DC42> Is it old or new?
[00:53:31] <manjaroCinnamon> I get connections going to EC2 amazonaws servers, NTP protocol.
[00:53:55] <bugzbunny> DC42, Really new, I think second season started last year lol, 2016
[00:54:01] <manjaroCinnamon> Do Arch/Manjaro NTP pools use amazonaws servers?
[00:54:25] <DC42> I don't trust Amazon with anything
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[00:55:19] <manjaroCinnamon> Yep, I know DC42, hence my question!
[00:55:23] <bugzbunny> manjaroCinnamon, That's not Arch
[00:55:26] <manjaroCinnamon> Forgot how to list my NTP servers.
[00:55:32] <bugzbunny> That's has nothing to do with distros
[00:55:47] <bugzbunny> That's whatever packages that using NTP protocol
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[00:56:10] <bugzbunny> Some NTP packages are configured to use ntp.org servers
[00:56:14] <manjaroCinnamon> Ah, ok.
[00:56:26] <manjaroCinnamon> Any way I can narrow down what's making those NTP connections?
[00:56:29] <bugzbunny> Possibly, ntp.org themselves uses Amazon servers
[00:56:58] <bugzbunny> I don't why people have issues with Amazon, because many Linux distrutions using Amazaon as a backend
[00:57:17] <bugzbunny> Uhhh, ps aux | grep ntp
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[00:57:29] <bugzbunny> systemctl status ntpd
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[00:58:29] <manjaroCinnamon> Ok, so ntpd is running...
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[01:03:17] <manjaroCinnamon> Would ps aux | grep ntp
[01:03:24] <manjaroCinnamon> give me a PID for what's using NTP?>
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[01:07:46] <DC42> Amazon is XenServer.....traitors
[01:09:29] <manjaroCinnamon> bugzbunny, think I figured it out.
[01:09:43] <bugzbunny> DC42, rhg136 Wayward Pines
[01:09:54] <bugzbunny> I think they killed the second season
[01:09:59] <manjaroCinnamon> I'm not actually using NTP at the moment, but it is enabled and synced.
[01:10:02] <bugzbunny> manjaroCinnamon, Great
[01:10:23] <DC42> never heard of that one bugz
[01:10:38] <manjaroCinnamon> I checked the pool, and it's # Associate to Arch's NTP pool server 0.arch.pool.ntp.org server 1.arch.pool.ntp.org server 2.arch.pool.ntp.org server 3.arch.pool.ntp.org
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[01:10:56] <manjaroCinnamon> That's what's listed in /etc/ntp.conf anyhow.
[01:11:00] <bugzbunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQ9Fl0VCkk
[01:11:06] <bugzbunny> The first season was so much better
[01:11:12] <bugzbunny> oO, where's the bot
[01:11:29] <manjaroCinnamon> So I figure that part of that Arch pool are those amazonaws servers.
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[01:11:55] <bugzbunny> Yeah
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[01:12:05] <bugzbunny> Looks lies like Arch hosting severs for NTP
[01:12:20] <DC42> how dare they
[01:12:23] <DC42> :P
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[01:13:47] <manjaroCinnamon> I might just turn it off with systemctl.
[01:13:54] <manjaroCinnamon> It seems I'm not using NTPD at the moment anyhow.
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[01:15:11] * bugzbunny checks out sense8 sci-fi show
[01:15:34] <batch> sup doc
[01:15:34] <rhg136> they killed the bot :o
[01:16:27] <bugzbunny> batch, \o
[01:16:42] <bugzbunny> NanoSector, your bot is GONE :-p
[01:17:09] <NanoSector> no it' s not
[01:17:26] <NanoSector> Botergos: ping
[01:17:26] <Botergos> Pong!
[01:17:29] <NanoSector> see :P
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[01:18:44] <bugzbunny> http://www.google.com/
[01:18:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/C8FkRE] Google
[01:18:48] <bugzbunny> oO
[01:19:05] <bugzbunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQ9Fl0VCkk
[01:19:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/OkdYXT] WAYWARD PINES - New FOX Series | TRAILER | HD - YouTube
[01:19:17] <bugzbunny> Probably lagging out :-p
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[01:22:01] <NanoSector> if it crashes systemd automatically restarts it :P
[01:23:10] <Bagga> sneaky
[01:23:40] <DC42> 32 Core <3 http://i.imgur.com/T6JpCkv.png
[01:23:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8dNI0D] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
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[01:35:43] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[01:35:47] <Bagga> hiya
[01:36:16] <PurpleIbex53> I'll eat everyone here
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[01:36:52] <PurpleIbex53> Shoo elh9
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[01:37:34] <PurpleIbex53> There's one ☝️
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[01:46:59] <siki> Hello!
[01:47:07] <Bagga> hola
[01:47:07] <siki> Anybody here for help?
[01:47:13] <siki> hey
[01:47:18] <Bagga> no, not rly
[01:48:17] <siki> Can u help about my grub, I just have Manjaro grub menu for select, not Windows anymore
[01:48:40] <PurpleIbex53> I'm eating everyone here
[01:48:44] <rhg136> grub :(
[01:48:53] <NanoSector> PurpleIbex53: wat
[01:49:00] <siki> Grub menu
[01:49:12] <siki> Sorry for bad english
[01:49:22] <rhg136> the kernel is bootable these days
[01:49:31] <PurpleIbex53> Pled declined
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[01:50:01] <Bagga> no bad english there tbh. but yah I don't remember how to fix grub, why not check archwiki for it?
[01:50:40] <PurpleIbex53> I'm eating elh9
[01:50:43] <rhg136> I actually use systemd-boot so idk, sorry
[01:51:06] <siki> Can I fix it?
[01:51:30] <Bagga> ofc you can siki
[01:51:39] <PurpleIbex53> Oh crap 💩
[01:52:00] <Bagga> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Dual-booting
[01:52:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jlKO9x] GRUB - ArchWiki
[01:52:38] <PurpleIbex53> I'll eat Bagga first
[01:52:51] <siki> I have problem with root
[01:53:27] <Bagga> what siki?
[01:53:30] <siki> You must run this as root
[01:53:30] <siki> You must run this as root
[01:53:30] <siki> You must run this as root
[01:53:37] <siki> this showingme
[01:53:42] <siki> showing me
[01:53:57] <Bagga> so either run it with sudo or run su root before so you get the # symbol instead of $
[01:54:26] <Bagga> and always be careful with what you do in root privileges
[01:54:43] <PurpleIbex53> Now I'll eat siki
[01:54:50] <siki> HAHAHHAAHAHHAHAH
[01:54:55] <siki> Wait man
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[01:55:30] <PurpleIbex53> Pled Declined
[01:55:55] <siki> Can you send me full text which I must type in terminal
[01:56:27] <PurpleIbex53> No
[01:56:32] <Bagga> no, because if it turns out wrong I do not want to be responsible ;)
[01:56:51] <siki> its not problem man
[01:57:00] <siki> how can I root this shit
[01:57:02] <Bagga> I do not recall how to properly setup grub manually. And you should as a very basic thing know how to acquire root privileges
[01:57:08] <Bagga> su root
[01:57:22] <PurpleIbex53> And now I'll eat e
[01:57:35] <bugzbunny> !aw Grub
[01:57:36] <Botergos> GRUB - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[01:57:44] <bugzbunny> !mw How to repair grub
[01:57:44] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
[01:58:06] <Bagga> bugzbunny: yeah I already linked aw grub #dualbooting
[01:58:14] <PurpleIbex53> And now I'll eat Botergos
[01:58:27] <bugzbunny> oh okay
[01:58:27] <Bagga> PurpleIbex53: he might taste metallic
[01:58:30] <rhg136> being careful as sudo, pfft
[01:58:41] <bugzbunny> Here's another link just in case https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader
[01:58:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6lIg49] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux
[01:58:48] <bugzbunny> It's very _easy_
[01:58:49] <PurpleIbex53> I'm eating rhg136
[01:58:51] <Bagga> rhg136: haha you don't like my warnings ? ;)
[02:00:27] <rhg136> just avoid `rm -rf /` and `rm -rf /home`, the latter one makes people mad at you
[02:01:09] <Bagga> I'd say the former is the worst one
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[02:01:20] <rhg136> nah
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[02:01:36] <Bagga> haha why not? it will remove /home too
[02:01:36] <rhg136> the OS can be fixed
[02:01:46] <rhg136> well yeah
[02:02:11] <Bagga> the only real difference is that the latter will begin in /home instead of beginning in / :P
[02:02:46] <Bagga> and if you're lucky the computer will break down before removing /home no?
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[02:03:20] <rhg136> this is unix...
[02:03:33] <rhg136> io caching
[02:03:44] <PurpleIbex53> I'm eating newcoder
[02:03:47] <Bagga> man, I have run rm -rf / on a computer, I know where it gets me :P
[02:04:04] <rhg136> as have I
[02:04:46] <Bagga> I guess I was a bit drunk and or tired, but all I really lost was a shitload of porn acting as a buffer for all important files ;)
[02:04:57] <rhg136> if you are really lucky, it'll crash after the first file :)
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[02:05:18] <bugzbunny> It would break, not every code get's loaded in mem
[02:05:26] <bugzbunny> Linux kernel would be fine doh :-p
[02:05:35] <PurpleIbex53> I'm eating tmsbrdrs_
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[02:06:35] <rhg136> zfs with l2arc and 16G of RAM; it's not dying
[02:07:50] <newcoder> Is pacman the package manager in manjaro like archlinux?
[02:07:57] <rhg136> yes
[02:07:59] <Bagga> yes
[02:08:17] <rhg136> a great one too
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[02:08:39] <Bagga> pacman über alles
[02:10:47] <PurpleIbex53> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC_help_disclaimerHy
[02:10:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/j7JiJV] (link was unresponsive: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC_help_disclaimerHy)
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[02:11:50] * rhg136 shrugs
[02:12:41] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't care who ya are that's funny right there. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15826690_10212444891186079_5650937492027017033_n.jpg?oh=f5a50ee23c97f4504843fb03a817af7e&oe=58E6EBD8
[02:12:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/KZmzDQ] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
[02:13:07] <Bagga> <3
[02:14:05] * rhg136 shrugs again
[02:16:07] <Bagga> fuck it, I'm going back to reading The road to serfdom by F.A Hayek, and sleeping
[02:16:10] <Bagga> bye guys
[02:16:19] <bugzbunny> :-p
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[02:27:19] <newcoder> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Pacman-based , why isn't manjaro listed here?
[02:27:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/t80yWE] List of Linux distributions - Wikipedia
[02:28:09] <b0n> good question
[02:28:23] <b0n> wait, its in the arch based
[02:29:23] <newcoder> Why not in pacman based?
[02:29:54] <b0n> im not sure. manjaro technically uses its own repos except for the unstable branch ( i think ). so it should be in the pacman based
[02:31:51] * NanoSector looks at the Edit page button
[02:33:37] <bugzbunny> :-P
[02:33:46] * bugzbunny claps
[02:34:10] <rhg136> I want to try arch testing again
[02:34:26] * rhg136 likes heisenbugs
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[03:30:29] <manjaro-kde5-> Oi
[03:31:35] <rhg136> Io
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[04:20:09] <b0n> oi
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[06:08:33] <b0n> anyone ever used coreboot?
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[06:14:07] <itsNotWorking> Can someone pls help? I am trying to install manjaro-xfce on a dell 7559 laptop and I keep getting stuck. MHWD is running a startup script that never ends. How do I resolve this?
[06:14:21] <b0n> can you press control + alt + f2
[06:14:26] <b0n> and get a login prompt?
[06:15:25] <itsNotWorking> I will try, but the issue seems to be a conflict with my 960m graphics card. before I restart my machine, what is the command for the CLI installer?
[06:15:54] <b0n> cli installer?
[06:16:16] <itsNotWorking> you know, to install without a gui
[06:17:09] <itsNotWorking> are there any known issues with 960m and default installation?
[06:17:34] <b0n> errr i dont know what the cli installer is, or if manjaro has one
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[06:22:29] <rhg135> it had one before; it's deprecated iirc
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[06:37:36] <Vlado9A> good morning
[06:45:55] <sgo11> hi, vim is "printed" to the shell when I quit. but this doesn't happen in ubuntu. how to change this behavior? thanks a lot.
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[06:47:55] <dodgejcr> sgo11: is this related? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60499/how-to-set-the-bash-display-to-not-show-the-vim-text-after-exit
[06:47:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/tvTNhR] terminal - How to set the bash display to not show the vim text after exit? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
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[06:50:04] <sgo11> dodgejcr, yeah, it's related. I just realized that manjaro doesn't do this, it's becaues of the 'screen' program.
[06:50:25] <sgo11> dodgejcr, echo $TERM shows screen inside screen.
[06:52:24] <dodgejcr> well i think there is a solution for screen as well
[06:56:46] <sgo11> dodgejcr, I found it. it does solve the screen's problem. thanks a lot.
[06:57:08] <dodgejcr> glad you got it
[07:01:00] <sgo11> dodgejcr, thank you very much. ^_^
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[09:31:41] <anonkunn> hi
[09:31:50] <anonkunn> I haven't upgraded my system in like 3 months
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[09:32:03] <anonkunn> can someone help me try an upgrade? dont mind if it breaks
[09:32:14] <Jeannie> sudo pacman -Syyu
[09:32:40] <anonkunn> it has conflicting depepndencies
[09:32:51] <anonkunn> :: Replace kdebase-kdialog with extra/kdialog? [Y/n]
[09:32:52] <anonkunn> stuff like this
[09:33:06] <anonkunn> error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
[09:33:11] <anonkunn> and ends up with this ^
[09:33:18] <Jeannie> Did you confirm all of them with y?
[09:33:21] <anonkunn> ya
[09:33:24] <anonkunn> confimed all with y
[09:33:40] <anonkunn> have around 10-11 such conflicts
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[09:35:14] <Jeannie> run that command in a terminal, confirm all of them with y and use something like pastebin to post the output here please
[09:35:23] <anonkunn> ok sure
[09:37:32] <anonkunn> Jeannie: http://pastebin.com/hseHEFvc
[09:37:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MNutwF] [ananke@Aether ~]$ sudo pacman -Syyu :: Synchronizing package databases... co - Pastebin.com
[09:40:24] <Jeannie> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/stable-update-2016-12-31-kernels-libreoffice-kde5-virtualbox-cinnamon-budgie/14906/30
[09:40:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/sO01bT] [Stable Update] 2016-12-31 - Kernels, LibreOffice, KDE5, VirtualBox, Cinnamon, Budgie - Stable Updates - Manjaro
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[09:41:01] <anonkunn> so I should remove de-servicemenus-pkg-tools?
[09:41:11] <anonkunn> kde*
[09:41:26] <Jeannie> Well, that's what the forum says
[09:41:40] <Jeannie> And that's what worked for me
[09:41:47] <anonkunn> the thing is
[09:41:50] <anonkunn> I havent updated in 3 months
[09:42:16] <peetaur2> anonkunn: I'm not expert with nvidia, so what I'd do is boot without using nvidia... like use nouveau, then remove the packages it complains about (pacman -Rcs shashlik-bin linux47-nvidia) carefully reading what it wants to remove and not answering y if it's too many, then when it's all up to date, try reinstalling anything it removed and get back to using nvidia if you want it
[09:42:19] <Jeannie> Then expect a lot of packages to be updates
[09:42:33] <Jeannie> Nvidia?
[09:42:37] <anonkunn> I dont mind the package updates
[09:42:41] <anonkunn> Just want it to actually work
[09:42:49] <anonkunn> I guess I could leave it at this state for perpetuity though
[09:42:52] <Jeannie> No nvidia dependency problem in anonkunn 's paste
[09:43:06] <peetaur2> right here: :: linux47-nvidia: installing nvidia-utils (1:375.26-2) breaks dependency 'nvidia-utils=1:370.28'
[09:43:21] <anonkunn> ya
[09:43:26] <Jeannie> Must have overlooked that
[09:43:36] <anonkunn> :: kmail-account-wizard and kdepim-common are in conflict
[09:43:40] <anonkunn> seems I need to remove these 2 first
[09:43:59] <Jeannie> Wasn't kernel 4.7 removed?
[09:44:07] <anonkunn> 4.8 hangs for me
[09:44:14] <Jeannie> There are others
[09:44:20] <anonkunn> I can use previous ones
[09:44:28] <Jeannie> or 4.9
[09:44:53] <anonkunn> ill need to download that one
[09:45:21] <Jeannie> Install it with mhwd
[09:45:28] <anonkunn> let me give it a shot
[09:45:30] <anonkunn> but before I do
[09:45:36] <anonkunn> I cant seem to remove kmail-account-wizard
[09:45:37] <Jeannie> Or with the manjaro-settings-manager gui
[09:45:38] <anonkunn> says target not found
[09:46:32] <Jeannie> The forum post says this:" you have to remove kde-servicemenus-pkg-tools before to update your system, because there is a dependency name problem. that should be solved"
[09:47:00] <anonkunn> well I cant use mhwd cause of the nvidia conflict
[09:47:16] <anonkunn> :: linux44-nvidia: installing nvidia-utils (1:375.26-2) breaks dependency 'nvidia-utils=1:370.28'
[09:47:17] <anonkunn> :: linux47-nvidia: installing nvidia-utils (1:375.26-2) breaks dependency 'nvidia-utils=1:370.28'
[09:47:24] <Jeannie> 44 was removed too
[09:47:36] <anonkunn> should I remove it first
[09:47:40] <anonkunn> then try to install 4.9?
[09:47:58] <anonkunn> and
[09:47:59] <anonkunn> error: target not found: kde-servicemenus-pkg-tools
[09:48:00] <Jeannie> Thats what I would do
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[09:48:13] <Jeannie> Hmm...
[09:48:46] <negen> things like these are why i prefer dkms drivers
[09:49:09] <Jeannie> kde dependency problems can be avoided by these drivers?
[09:49:13] <anonkunn> doubt it
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[09:50:28] <anonkunn> i'm probably gonna have to reinstall, arent I?
[09:50:45] <bugzbunny> What's the problem?
[09:50:56] <anonkunn> http://pastebin.com/hseHEFvc
[09:50:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MNutwF] [ananke@Aether ~]$ sudo pacman -Syyu :: Synchronizing package databases... co - Pastebin.com
[09:50:59] <anonkunn> this is :(
[09:51:01] <anonkunn> updating after 3 months
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[09:54:15] <b0n> why -Syyu?
[09:54:21] <b0n> and not just -Syu
[09:54:31] <anonkunn> neither work
[09:54:32] <anonkunn> so doesn't matter
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[09:54:38] <anonkunn> but syy updates the sources
[09:54:53] <anonkunn> I even tried pacman-mirrors -g
[09:55:09] <b0n> i was told to never use -Syyu.. or maybe it was -SyUu
[09:55:27] <anonkunn> I didi -Syy
[09:55:30] <anonkunn> then -Syu
[09:56:46] <b0n> nothin wrong with doin a reinstall if you have to
[09:56:58] <anonkunn> ya just gonna do that
[09:57:03] <anonkunn> what's the popular distro these days?
[09:57:56] <b0n> i ran antegros for a while, its nice. i kinda want to put it on here but im too committed to manjaro now..dont want to reconfigure everything
[09:58:18] <b0n> its really just an installer for vanilla arch tho
[09:59:48] <Jeannie> It comes with an own repo for themes
[10:00:26] <b0n> yea, has its own pretty, exclusive icon themes
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[10:01:47] <anonkunn> been a bit busy as of recent
[10:01:55] <anonkunn> so I like it
[10:02:04] <anonkunn> when a installer does it quickly
[10:02:31] <Jeannie> The antergos installation takes longer than a manjaro installation
[10:02:45] <anonkunn> I dont suppose copying over and replacing all manjaro files from the iso and doing a grub-update will work...will it?
[10:02:55] <Jeannie> Definitively not
[10:09:25] <anonkunn> so I haven't been keeping in touch with the linux news laltely
[10:09:33] <anonkunn> but has wayland and nvidia sorted their differences?
[10:09:38] <Jeannie> No
[10:09:41] <anonkunn> lol
[10:09:47] <anonkunn> so proprietary drivers still wont work?
[10:09:51] <Jeannie> No
[10:09:52] <anonkunn> with wayland
[10:09:57] <anonkunn> good old nvidia
[10:10:00] <Jeannie> Indeed
[10:10:16] <Jeannie> Wayland almost works
[10:10:25] <Jeannie> After only 8 years of evelopment
[10:10:32] <anonkunn> hmm
[10:10:34] <anonkunn> lol
[10:10:34] <Jeannie> development even
[10:11:00] <anonkunn> what was that os that is based on Ubuntu and made by the KDE team?
[10:11:08] <Jeannie> Project neon?
[10:11:11] <anonkunn> ah ya
[10:11:14] <anonkunn> is it going good?
[10:11:24] <Jeannie> Dunno, I don*t touch *buntus
[10:11:46] <anonkunn> haha
[10:12:21] <anonkunn> might give it a shot
[10:12:26] <anonkunn> since I wont be updating my OS as often
[10:12:50] <anonkunn> though I'm afraid it will suck compared to manjaro
[10:12:53] <Jeannie> Almost all my *buntus have autodestroyed themselves in the past
[10:12:55] <anonkunn> and initiate a distro hopping cycle
[10:13:21] <anonkunn> ya, at least didn't get rm -rf'd by steam
[10:14:12] <Jeannie> I don't use steam
[10:15:00] <anonkunn> how would I make a bootable manjaro USB
[10:15:07] <anonkunn> from...windows 10?
[10:15:40] <Jeannie> Use rufus
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[10:17:21] <anonkunn> oki
[10:18:15] <anonkunn> i'm gonna reboot now
[10:18:20] <anonkunn> thank you for having a chat with me Jeannie
[10:18:21] <Jeannie> Good success
[10:18:22] <anonkunn> and everyone else
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[10:24:34] <sgo11> hi, do anyone know where qt widget style (lxqt-config-appearance widget style) files are located? such as 'fusion'.
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[10:35:06] <manjaro> hello
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[10:36:08] <gtilokani> hello
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[11:01:01] <mroki> hello everyone! :D
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[11:02:51] <mroki> anybody knows how to install python 3.6 on manjaro?
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[11:08:35] <kritikk> how to check if my nvidia drivers are functionating?
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[11:15:18] <nosanity> for python either "sudo pacman -S python" - you should get python 3 or check octopi
[11:16:04] <nosanity> for nvidia go to settings/ hardware detection
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[11:16:20] <nosanity> you should see the drivers you are using
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[11:20:29] <negen> kritikk, glxinfo should give you some infos that you need
[11:20:56] <negen> something along these lines
[11:20:57] <negen> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:21:22] <sgo11> ok. I think I found it by myself. they should be located at /usr/lib/qt/plugins/styles/ directory. I still don't find fusion widget style, but all ohter widget styles are in that directory.
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[12:34:06] <audiophiel> hey, do somebody know how to get cups to recognize my smasung ML-1660 printer?
[12:37:55] <audiophiel> dmesg shows: usblp 1-14:1.0: usblp2: USB Bidirectional printer dev 5 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04E8 pid 0x3301
[12:38:21] <Strit_Laptop> I just use the GUI printer setup in Manjaro for my Samsung ML-1640.
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[12:38:59] <audiophiel> it worked some month ago, but now the printer isn't even detected
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[14:00:31] <manjaroi3> hola
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[14:18:18] <Bagga> elo
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[14:20:47] <elh9> My 'find' function in dolphin doesn't seem to work. Is there a good alternative to Dolphin?
[14:20:53] <elh9> for kde
[14:21:43] <elh9> ah ill try kfind
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[15:16:30] <ringo> hej bugzbunny :)
[15:16:36] <ringo> hej forgottenone
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[15:20:48] <bugzbunny> ringo, don't talk to me
[15:20:52] <wantomakemyowndi> hi, i have a question: how can i build my own distro with manjaro.
[15:20:52] <bugzbunny> :-p
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[15:21:01] <forgottenone> merhaba ringo
[15:21:02] <wantomakemyowndi> ?
[15:21:12] <bugzbunny> Go talk to someone else
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[15:32:57] <Siki> How to get Manjaro Linux Installation Framework ?
[15:33:18] <Strit_Laptop> What do you mean with framework?
[15:33:44] <Siki> I mean like terminal
[15:33:59] <Strit_Laptop> Cli installer is not on the ISO's anymore. Not maintained.
[15:34:02] <Siki> I found video tutorial on Youtube
[15:34:09] <Siki> wait sec
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[15:35:28] <Siki> https://youtu.be/6854EiOF7QE?t=29m14s
[15:35:29] <Siki> look
[15:35:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1MTBfA] Isolated Dual Boot - Windows 7 & Manjaro Linux - YouTube
[15:36:10] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah. That's a very old ISO, the CLI installer is not on the new ISO's anymore, because it has not been maintained for some time.
[15:36:37] <Siki> Oh my god
[15:36:52] <Siki> But I parted my partition like he
[15:37:01] <Strit_Laptop> You can install manjaro-cli-installer on a live session and try it, but I can't garantee that it will work.
[15:37:02] <thid> Siki use netinstall!
[15:37:16] <Strit_Laptop> thid: netinstall is also an old ISO.
[15:37:24] <thid> but it works!
[15:37:33] <thid> I always use it!
[15:37:53] <Strit_Laptop> That's true. but not on some new hardware.
[15:38:11] <Siki> How to get it
[15:38:12] <Siki> ?
[15:38:38] <Strit_Laptop> https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/archive/16.06.1/netinstall/
[15:38:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4rPdYC] Manjaro Linux - Browse /archive/16.06.1/netinstall at SourceForge.net
[15:39:00] <Strit_Laptop> Og, 16.08 also had a net install: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/archive/16.08/netinstall/
[15:39:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/kstmc1] Manjaro Linux - Browse /archive/16.08/netinstall at SourceForge.net
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[15:40:01] <Siki> I it same installation like Manjaro Framework Terminal
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[15:40:23] <Strit_Laptop> Yes it is. No GUI, just ncurses installer.
[15:40:56] <Siki> okay man
[15:41:19] <Siki> What you prefer, which option
[15:41:20] <Strit_Laptop> YOu don't like Calamares?
[15:41:38] <Strit_Laptop> I prefer Calamares. :)
[15:42:11] <Siki> Yes, but I can not select option
[15:42:20] <Strit_Laptop> What option?
[15:42:22] <Siki> Install alongside
[15:42:40] <Strit_Laptop> Oh? I can....
[15:43:24] <Siki> Because, I Shrinked partitions like on this video which I sent you
[15:43:28] <Strit_Laptop> Else I just use Manual partitioning. That way I get it the way I want.
[15:43:46] <Siki> Yes, Just manual partitioning I can
[15:43:49] <Siki> select
[15:44:06] <Strit_Laptop> Using that, is way easier than cli installer. :)
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[15:46:28] <Siki> How to shrink my partition?
[15:46:47] <Siki> I dont want to get problem again with grub menu
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[15:48:27] <Strit_Laptop> Siki: To shrink a windows partition, you need to do it from within windows.
[15:48:59] <Siki> yea yeah, I did it
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[15:49:51] <Siki> An then?
[15:49:55] <Siki> and*
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[15:54:07] <Strit_Laptop> Then you Choose Manual Partitioning in Calamares and set the new free space as the partition for Manjaro.
[15:55:09] <Siki> Ok
[15:55:36] <Siki> done
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[15:56:49] <Siki> Do I have to make extended partition?
[15:57:04] <Strit_Laptop> Depends on your current partitions.
[15:57:54] <Lowl3v3l> Siki, in the best case you just use one physical partition as an lvm volume and do all from within^
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[15:59:27] <Siki> http://pasteboard.co/hEy9aPb4l.png
[15:59:30] <Siki> look
[16:00:17] <Siki> I will delete all of this, started from sda4 partition
[16:00:26] <Lowl3v3l> Siki, mbr partitions can only hold 4 primary ones. I still advise to just use 1 lvm physical volume and create all other things within^^
[16:00:52] <Strit_Laptop> I need to define mountpoints as well though. :)
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[16:01:22] <Strit_Laptop> s/I/you/
[16:03:18] <Lowl3v3l> Strit_Laptop, usually 3 should be enough though.
[16:05:34] <Siki> http://pasteboard.co/hEEFXDMn8.png
[16:06:00] <Siki> Is it ok?
[16:06:25] <Siki> How much size to set for lvm
[16:07:11] <Lowl3v3l> Siki, all you want for your complete installation
[16:07:52] <Siki> ALL?
[16:07:55] <Siki> Ouh
[16:10:56] <Lowl3v3l> Siki, google on lvm2 first, please :)
[16:11:08] <Siki> ok
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[16:20:24] <manjaroCinnamon> Hey guys.
[16:21:23] <manjaroCinnamon> Wondering what the best practice is for starting a script/program on startup in Manjaro Cinnamon. If I try to run this particular program, it requires me to use sudo
[16:21:38] <manjaroCinnamon> So adding it to start automatically via the settings manager doesn't seem to work.
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[16:35:10] <manjaro-kde5> Hey
[16:35:34] <Jeannie> Ho
[16:35:39] <Jeannie> Let's go!
[16:35:40] <manjaro-kde5> Looking to drop manjaro on my second SSD - running Windows on my main SSD - what should I select as boot loader location?
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[17:10:38] <Kunda_> anyone able to run sketchup make 2017 on manjaro ?
[17:11:44] <Strit_Laptop> You getting an error?
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[17:19:55] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, yea
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[17:20:57] <Kunda_> where should I paste the output to ?
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[17:26:34] <Strit_Laptop> Some kind of pastebin, then link it to us.
[17:28:06] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, https://gist.github.com/luzpaz/502f49a3417e7952f98f72e7f6e0daa2
[17:28:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1t65BE] gist:502f49a3417e7952f98f72e7f6e0daa2 · GitHub
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[17:29:21] <Strit_Laptop> Kunda_: it's a wine issue. But it seems you lack Windows 7 Service Pack 1 in your wine prefix.
[17:29:52] <Kunda_> how do i add it ?
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[17:30:56] <Strit_Laptop> Solution is probably this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=794173#p794173
[17:30:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BcrsA7] cannot load setup.exe/Office 2007 under bin32-wine [SOLVED] / Other Architectures / Arch Linux Forums
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[17:32:49] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, EDIT: As of 19-Sep-2010 one does NOT need to install all the winetricks stuff to get this to work; also, winetricks in now in the official repos:
[17:33:06] <Strit_Laptop> I know. But have you selected Windows 7 in your winecfg?
[17:34:20] <Kunda_> oh..duh
[17:35:34] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, ok.. new issue: https://gist.github.com/luzpaz/26c1ed073f202cfef022633130719fc1
[17:35:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ikcwlu] gist:26c1ed073f202cfef022633130719fc1 · GitHub
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[17:52:44] <Kunda_> "C:/windows/syswow64/mfc100u.dll" must be copied to "C:/windows/system32/mfc100u.dll" before running program -- winetricks should not be necessary.
[17:52:53] <Kunda_> how do i find that dll ?
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[17:55:09] <bootupdelay> Hey guys, where can i change the time amount that manjaro waits before booting up in grub?
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[17:59:27] <Bagga> no?
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[18:30:04] <marco-parillo> bootupdelay: I have not tried it, but you could try: http://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/
[18:30:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ARRNmR] How to Configure the GRUB2 Boot Loader’s Settings
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[18:39:26] <Kunda_> When I bootup, how can I tell firefox to wait until an internet connection is made to load ?
[18:40:18] <Bagga> why not just not autostart it?
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[18:43:06] <MrLawrence> Hello guys, I'm booting Manjaro Linux in this HP laptop, after the boot option from the USB, I get a black screen both with the default and the nonfree version
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[18:44:25] <Kunda_> Bagga, what do you mean 'autostart' ?
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[18:55:33] <bootupdelay> thx marco-parillo!
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[19:03:26] <manjaro-kde5-> Hey guys I keep getting an error at the sucsessfull installation screen about the bootloader
[19:03:35] <manjaro-kde5-> google doesn't seem to help out much
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[19:38:20] <Techknight> HIi guys do any of you use Manjaro-i3wm and do you know where the i3-statusbar config is stored?
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[19:41:39] <Celgost> Hello ringo
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[19:42:25] <ringo> hej
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[19:54:54] <montetobuso> I have just reinstalled manjaro on a new ssd. I got the pacman -Q result from old install in a file, and want to use this as a base for installing everything i had on the old disk. Is this possible?
[19:58:44] <montetobuso> and by the way, wich kernel should I use, and while the LTS beside a kernel in the settings manager is self explanatory to me, "real time" is not
[20:00:16] <montetobuso> any help appreciated
[20:00:40] <thid> if u don't know whats real time kernel then u dont need it
[20:00:57] <thid> stick to lts
[20:02:03] <montetobuso> There is also many kernels newer than lts not marked real-time
[20:02:21] <thid> yep
[20:02:52] <montetobuso> what about them
[20:03:05] <thid> ...
[20:03:07] <montetobuso> is it fine to use the newest kernel not marked lts?
[20:03:17] <montetobuso> I don't need a super stable system
[20:03:42] <thid> how I'm suppose to know if u want/need to use the newest or stable
[20:04:03] <thid> since u don't know I suggest lts
[20:04:37] <montetobuso> ok
[20:04:42] <montetobuso> thanks anyway
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[20:05:27] <thid> montetobuso is rly ur choice for kernel, u can even go for linux-ck if feel like u need it
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[20:05:43] <thid> but if u don't know the diffrence, lts is the best choice for u
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[20:06:49] <montetobuso> thanks, did some googeling inspired by you, and there is no way I'm needing real-time. I am however trying out a newer than LTS kernel as it seems that it may solve some other problems for me. Thanks
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[20:22:27] <stibbi> Hi, does anybody have an idea why I can't hear any sound if I connect headphones to my PC? I'm running Manjaro XFCE Edition fully patched.
[20:22:55] <thid> jack, usb, bt?
[20:23:17] <stibbi> jack
[20:23:26] <thid> alsamixer and check how high is sound
[20:23:33] <stibbi> 100%
[20:23:50] <official-tr0ll> Go into pulse audio and see if showing head phones
[20:24:09] <stibbi> pavucontrol says "Analog Headphone (plugged in)" as output device after connecting the headphones
[20:24:54] <stiky> Try switching the output to headphones
[20:25:23] <stibbi> stiky, I think I do not understand? It's alredy set to Headphones
[20:26:07] <stiky> k I should have asked if you had.
[20:26:15] <stibbi> stiky, np :)
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[20:26:42] <stiky> I had it reverse once. I put speakers in and they showed up as headphones and I had to switch it to headphones for it to work.
[20:27:16] <stibbi> if i disconnect the headphones it say "Line Out (plugged in)" and i can hear sound out of my speakers
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[21:03:36] <manjaroi3> hello?
[21:03:42] <thid> ?
[21:03:46] <thid> ?!?
[21:03:49] <thid> ?? ?? ??
[21:03:58] <manjaroi3> sorry, what is this?
[21:04:01] <thid> lets talk in python! sss ss s s sss
[21:04:45] <manjaroi3> is this like a public char or something?
[21:04:57] <Lowl3v3l> manjaroi3, it is a chat, yes.
[21:05:11] <thid> fully controled by NSA, yes
[21:05:24] <manjaroi3> I see, and what's the use for this?
[21:05:38] <manjaroi3> are there specified topics?
[21:05:55] <Lowl3v3l> obviously, you even got it at your login
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[21:06:40] <thid> we'r like manajro doctors, u tell us ur problem and perhaps someone will help u
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[21:07:01] <manjaro-web|3039> I need help guys with that https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=13444.0
[21:07:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zK4nOq] [How-to] Setup WhatsApp in Manjaro
[21:07:22] <manjaroi3> Oh I see!
[21:07:42] <manjaroi3> well that's actually convenient
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[21:08:12] <thid> oh more ppl use deepin :O
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[21:09:04] <Dearu> KDE...we are a hidden majority
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[21:09:36] <manjaroi3> I have a little question. I have a partition with arch linux, and i want to install manjaro on it. Thing is I want to keep my personal files in /home folder
[21:10:03] <manjaroi3> Does replacing manjaro without formating in said partition will keep those files?
[21:10:14] <xangua> manjaroi3: backup, make separate / and /home partition next time
[21:10:38] <manjaro-web|3039> so anyone can help
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[21:11:09] <thid> manjaroi3, always try to have / and /home on diffrent partition
[21:12:44] <manjaroi3> Yeah, i've been considering that. What consecuences you find the most annoying in doing that? does having to resize /home or /root when you have no more space in thos partitions but you have in the overall disk are an actual inconvenient for you?
[21:12:47] <thid> manjaro-web|3039, help with?
[21:12:52] <manjaroi3> or is it worth giving a try
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[21:13:41] <manjaro-web|3039> How to make whatsapp work ?? https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=13444.0
[21:13:41] <thid> manjaroi3 on / u pretty much keep only apps, on /home ur files, I never manage to get my system to use 10GB but still I always make / 20GB just in case
[21:13:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zK4nOq] [How-to] Setup WhatsApp in Manjaro
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[21:14:25] <xangua> manjaroi3: do you plan to install all Manjaro repository and AUR to get no more space?
[21:14:34] <thid> manjaro-web|3039, did u even read that topic ?
[21:14:48] <manjaro-web|3039> yes
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[21:14:57] <thid> manjaroi3, u can always use lvm :D
[21:15:07] <thid> manjaro-web|3039, so wheres the problem ?
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[21:15:34] <manjaro-web|3039> i download wart but it's did work
[21:15:36] <manjaroi3> haha no, but actually don't know which size for / would be the best for my needs
[21:15:52] <thid> manjaroi3, for start u can go with 20GB
[21:15:56] <manjaroi3> lvm? I'll check that
[21:16:25] <manjaro-web|3039> and i download purple-whatspp but it did't show up at pidgen
[21:17:01] <manjaro-web|3039> Wart didn't work
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[21:18:21] <thid> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/purple-whatsapp/
[21:18:22] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eXaE1O] (link was unresponsive: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/purple-whatsapp/)
[21:18:31] <thid> I wonder how did u download if its 404
[21:18:45] <manjaro-web|3039> with aur
[21:19:43] <manjaro-web|3039> It Won't work ??
[21:19:54] <louis_1> is anybody having trouble with cantarell fonts on xfce?
[21:20:34] <thid> manjaro-web|3039, no it wont coz its not even in aur
[21:20:40] <thid> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/whatsapp-web-desktop
[21:20:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JqwFdo] AUR (en) - whatsapp-web-desktop
[21:20:46] <thid> use web version
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[21:24:33] <manjaro-web|3039> Is it fake ?!! https://postimg.org/image/jvpn3z76h/
[21:24:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Kc1ImR] aa — Postimage.org
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[21:26:58] <thid> https://aur.archlinux.org - look for urself
[21:26:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/o0WGnc] AUR (en) - Home
[21:27:30] <thid> not to mention that plugin don't get updates anymore
[21:28:14] <manjaroi3> excuse me, are these lines from the manjaro wiki accurate?
[21:28:20] <manjaroi3> "It is worthwhile noting that the Manjaro installer will not overwrite a Home folder if it contains an existing username."
[21:28:34] <manjaroi3> from this article https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Partitioning_Overview_and_Existing_Partition_Tables
[21:28:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GcQuG5] Partitioning Overview and Existing Partition Tables - Manjaro Linux
[21:28:50] <thid> manjaroi3, I wouldnt risk
[21:29:09] <manjaro-web|3039> Thankes @thid
[21:29:17] <thid> installer is not perfect
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[21:29:29] <thid> at least not cli, not sure about gui
[21:29:38] <manjaroi3> Me neither haha, just seemed curious I didn't read that before
[21:29:46] <manjaroi3> and wondered if it was true
[21:30:00] <manjaroi3> although that article hasn't been updated since mid 2015
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[21:35:47] <xangua> 2:10 PM <xangua> manjaroi3: backup, make separate / and /home partition next time
[21:35:57] <xangua> Whatever you decide to to, backup
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[21:41:31] <thid> ehh...gona have to sit down and do some changes in my hardware :/
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[21:44:59] <bugzbunny> thid
[21:45:06] <thid> hm?
[21:45:16] <bugzbunny> I got a new mobo
[21:45:24] <bugzbunny> and cpu
[21:45:33] <thid> gz
[21:45:53] <thid> I'm still w8ing for my cash to buy new desktop
[21:46:10] <bugzbunny> I wont touch shit yet
[21:46:17] <thid> :D
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[21:46:20] <bugzbunny> let me take the mobo out the box
[21:46:45] <thid> I'm getting rdy to play with kvm passthro on gpu
[21:46:58] <rhg135> yo
[21:47:21] <bugzbunny> fuqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
[21:47:27] <bugzbunny> it looks good
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[21:48:19] <bugzbunny> let me smell
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[21:53:24] <manjaro-web|3379> hello people
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[21:55:11] <manjaro-web|3379> i install manjaro last night and grub on same disk and said to take over the whole disk and after i finnished installing system i went to boot of that disk and all i got was balck screen no grub stuff
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[21:57:37] <rhg135> grub :(
[21:58:14] <NanoSector> rip grub
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[22:06:08] <bugzbunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZc7wtlUcGc
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[22:06:10] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/81kRrH] Mobo - YouTube
[22:06:47] <NanoSector> ew asus
[22:08:05] <bugzbunny> :-p
[22:08:26] <thid> yeah better go for asrock xD
[22:08:48] <NanoSector> ew asrock
[22:08:58] <bugzbunny> wait
[22:09:13] <NanoSector> asrock is a daughter company of asus afaik
[22:09:27] <thid> hey! asrock mobo always support iommu!
[22:09:40] <thid> and they never give problems like msi mobo for linux
[22:09:40] <NanoSector> gigabyte do too
[22:09:55] <NanoSector> gigabyte's even support OS X
[22:09:58] <NanoSector> :x
[22:10:25] <thid> I'm over with hackintosh
[22:10:38] <NanoSector> same
[22:11:17] <thid> its nice to play around for awhile but not something u would use for daily work
[22:11:30] <NanoSector> yeah
[22:11:38] <NanoSector> although i did for a while
[22:11:44] <thid> like solaris :D
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[22:15:18] <bugzbunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86BMcwz6uKE
[22:15:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zFnlxC] January 3, 2017 - YouTube
[22:16:59] <bugzbunny> I can't wait
[22:17:04] <bugzbunny> :s
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[22:17:45] <b0n> for a new cpu?
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[22:18:09] <bugzbunny> When I put it together
[22:18:17] <bugzbunny> :-p
[22:18:22] <b0n> oh :p
[22:18:26] <b0n> gamin?
[22:18:41] <bugzbunny> yup
[22:18:52] <NanoSector> someone marked my package out of date :<
[22:18:58] <b0n> :o
[22:19:15] <b0n> im not gonna bother upgrading until at least halfway through 2017
[22:19:28] <b0n> things are gonna get faster, cheaper and better '
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[22:19:44] <NanoSector> but my package is up to date
[22:19:48] <b0n> (plus i cant afford it)
[22:20:13] <NanoSector> oh it isn't
[22:20:29] * NanoSector gets his package more up to date than the original package
[22:20:38] * b0n giggles
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[22:21:09] <bugzbunny> windows won't boot with new mobo
[22:21:20] <bugzbunny> hmmmm
[22:21:30] <thid> go with linux
[22:21:33] <b0n> from an existing install?
[22:22:00] <bugzbunny> I doubt it
[22:22:08] <b0n> new windows is locked to the motherboard. you cant move it to a new machine. you have to reinstall :P
[22:22:08] <bugzbunny> but ...
[22:22:23] <b0n> win8 and up dont let you move installs
[22:22:24] <bugzbunny> b0n, >.>
[22:22:32] <b0n> <_< wat
[22:22:34] <NanoSector> bugzbunny: if it's MBR windows it will
[22:22:43] <NanoSector> bugzbunny: if it's UEFI it won't
[22:22:47] <bugzbunny> nope
[22:22:50] <bugzbunny> UEFI
[22:22:59] <NanoSector> i mean the windows install
[22:23:36] <bugzbunny> I will go eat first
[22:23:39] <b0n> i usually buy the cheap, $100 oem system builder editions of windows. one install.no bloatware.
[22:23:57] <bugzbunny> before I touch anything
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[22:28:43] <LyriCa> whats teh ffmpeg command to view file information?
[22:28:44] <LyriCa> ?
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[22:33:43] <retr0> can i have some help?
[22:33:56] <NanoSector> depends on what your question is
[22:34:09] <retr0> i'm new to manjaro, and am currently trying to dual boot it on my MBP-mid2012 model
[22:34:19] <b0n> dual boot with what
[22:34:26] <NanoSector> OS X I assume
[22:34:39] <retr0> ive made a new partition for manjaro however i can't click next on the installation guide
[22:34:42] <retr0> yes OS X
[22:34:46] <b0n> i highly recommend you dont dual boot, due to personal problems ive had with it :^)
[22:35:04] <retr0> why what's wrong with dual booting it?
[22:35:10] <b0n> every hard drive ive ever dual booted with has corrupted and broken over time.
[22:35:10] <NanoSector> when i tried dual booting my iMac i had a ton of issues
[22:35:18] <b0n> just use a VM
[22:35:28] <retr0> VMs are slow and painstaking
[22:35:30] <NanoSector> retr0: next on which stap?
[22:35:32] <NanoSector> *step
[22:35:34] <b0n> not always
[22:35:46] <retr0> the step is "partitions"
[22:35:59] <NanoSector> can't you select what type of partitioning to use?
[22:35:59] <retr0> you know on the GUI Installation with calamares
[22:36:05] <retr0> (i think thats what its called)
[22:36:09] <NanoSector> i haven't installed manjaro for like a year :x
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[22:37:08] <retr0> ive given the mount /boot/efi
[22:37:15] <retr0> and ive set the filesystem to fat32
[22:38:25] <retr0> can i get any help?
[22:38:31] <NanoSector> mhm did you mount the root (/)?
[22:38:41] <retr0> i havent mounted the root
[22:38:48] <NanoSector> or set that mount in the installer i meant
[22:38:49] <retr0> im new to linux sorry if thats a noob mistake ive done
[22:38:58] <retr0> oh ive done /boot/efi
[22:39:08] <NanoSector> you need to have set two partitions, /boot/efi and /, to a partition
[22:39:08] <retr0> thats what it tells me to do anyway
[22:39:24] <retr0> just /
[22:39:30] <NanoSector> otherwise you can't continue
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[22:39:55] <retr0> ok
[22:40:09] <retr0> how large should the partitions be
[22:40:33] <retr0> i have a 500GB HDD but i want the partition size to be alot smaller than the OSX partition
[22:40:47] <retr0> i was thinking 20gb or 50gb?
[22:41:00] <NanoSector> 50 GB is enough
[22:41:23] <retr0> for both partitions?
[22:42:08] <NanoSector> nono
[22:42:21] <NanoSector> /boot/efi should be ~256MB or 512MB
[22:42:27] <retr0> okay
[22:42:34] <NanoSector> / should be 50GB or whatever you want it, over 10GB at least
[22:42:42] <NanoSector> recommend something like 50
[22:42:48] <retr0> what flags?
[22:42:53] <thid> with that EFI is not rly true
[22:42:56] <retr0> boot, esp and?
[22:43:02] <NanoSector> boot and esp
[22:43:06] <NanoSector> thid: what
[22:43:57] <thid> windows make default 100mb, once u instaill manjaro kernel with all stuffs u still have like 30-40mb free
[22:43:58] <retr0> what about the 50 gig one what flags
[22:44:14] <retr0> sorry thid, continue
[22:44:26] <NanoSector> you could make it smaller thid, but that could get you into trouble later on
[22:44:30] <thid> totaly no reason to go fro 256mb+,512 is waste
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[22:44:56] <thid> NanoSector, allready tryed to even simulate problems, but couldnt
[22:45:09] <NanoSector> multiple kernel images, especially on manjaro
[22:45:12] <thid> even if u set grub to "Stand alone" u still have frickin alot of psace
[22:45:13] <retr0> already tried* ;)
[22:45:26] <retr0> i want a decent amount of space
[22:45:34] <NanoSector> kernel images take up ~40 MB each
[22:45:47] <NanoSector> imagine what happens if you install 4.7, 4.8, 4.9 and 4.10
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[22:46:07] <thid> ehhh...
[22:46:08] <thid> nothing
[22:46:11] <retr0> im doing developing on manjaro and my media studies on osx thats why im keeping them seperate
[22:46:21] <NanoSector> thid: you'll run out of space
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[22:46:34] <retr0> what flags for my / one
[22:46:42] <NanoSector> you don't really need flags
[22:46:47] <retr0> dope
[22:46:49] <NanoSector> except ESP on /boot/efi
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[22:46:55] <retr0> fat32 right?
[22:47:00] <NanoSector> yup
[22:47:03] <NanoSector> but not for /
[22:47:09] <NanoSector> probably want ext4 for that
[22:47:25] <thid> ehhh
[22:47:33] <retr0> for the filesys on both of them
[22:47:39] <thid> in efi u put only grub
[22:47:43] <NanoSector> retr0: fat32 on /boot/efi, ext4 on /
[22:47:45] <thid> kernel stays in boot
[22:47:54] <retr0> thanks @NanoSector
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[22:48:05] <NanoSector> thid: oh right, i'm used to having /boot separate
[22:48:05] <thid> so u can have 10 kernel, and efi will still have alot of free space
[22:48:29] <thid> NanoSector, same and for /boot I support 512
[22:48:39] <thid> but for EFI 100mb is enaught
[22:48:41] <NanoSector> yes
[22:48:53] <NanoSector> 50 MB should be enough
[22:48:54] <retr0> YES SWEET MOTHER OF GOD ITS WORKING
[22:48:57] <NanoSector> lol
[22:49:04] <retr0> ive gone 512 lol
[22:49:09] <NanoSector> doesn't matter
[22:49:16] <retr0> thanks dudes i appreciate it
[22:49:19] <NanoSector> np :)
[22:49:21] <thid> dev/sda2 96M 24M 73M 25% /boot/efi
[22:49:29] <thid> 50M might be abit risky
[22:49:30] <retr0> are yall manjaro devs or just people who know how to linux?
[22:49:46] <NanoSector> i'm support member in #antergos, concurrency :P
[22:50:14] <thid> I mostly use debian and ubuntu
[22:50:18] <thid> xD
[22:50:22] <NanoSector> thid: /dev/sdb1 253M 46M 207M 19% /boot
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[22:51:00] <thid> I rare split / and /boot :D
[22:51:03] <retr0> i used kali when i watched mr robot lmao that os sucks ass
[22:51:12] <retr0> so i used fedora
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[22:51:24] <NanoSector> thid: i use systemd-boot and not grub, systemd-boot wants /boot separated
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[22:51:27] <retr0> and ubuntu like 4 years back to feel like a hackerman
[22:51:44] <NanoSector> retr0: heh, fedora is nice
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[22:51:52] <NanoSector> lacks a ton of packages though
[22:51:57] <retr0> debian is good too
[22:52:03] * NanoSector disagrees :P
[22:52:06] <thid> NanoSector, oh, I got used now to efi and brtfs on /
[22:52:19] <retr0> yeah apparently archs pkg respiratory is MASSIVE compared to fedora
[22:52:29] <thid> debian is nice for servers but thats also
[22:52:34] <thid> in desktop is pain in ass
[22:52:36] <NanoSector> retr0: well arch repos include a shitton of packages, AUR includes even more
[22:52:45] <NanoSector> 99% chance AUR includes a package if it isn't in the repos
[22:53:21] <NanoSector> thid: even on servers it's a PITA
[22:53:25] <NanoSector> i tried
[22:53:32] <retr0> im a pentester so id be able to get blackarchs packages on manjaro right?
[22:53:34] <NanoSector> I also tried Ubuntu but that committed suicide after a month
[22:53:36] <thid> NanoSector, I'm using :)
[22:53:38] <retr0> im new to arch so
[22:53:58] <retr0> sudo pacman -S instead of sudo apt-get right?
[22:54:26] <NanoSector> retr0: blackarch contains instructions for installing on arch linux, manjaro is essentially arch
[22:54:32] <NanoSector> jjust different
[22:54:45] <NanoSector> !rosetta
[22:54:47] <NanoSector> no
[22:54:49] <NanoSector> okay
[22:54:51] <NanoSector> !aw rosetta
[22:54:51] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
[22:54:54] <NanoSector> Botergos: you suck
[22:55:04] <NanoSector> retr0: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta
[22:55:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki
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[22:55:31] <NanoSector> !doubletableflip
[22:55:32] <Botergos> ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
[22:55:33] <NanoSector> take that
[22:55:39] <NanoSector> tableflipper-quitter
[22:56:13] <bugzbunny> if I am not back in 30min
[22:56:24] <NanoSector> we will call 911, don't worry
[22:56:25] <bugzbunny> Windows didn't boot
[22:56:35] <retr0> oh no
[22:56:36] <bugzbunny> hahhaha
[22:57:30] <thid> off to sleep cya all
[22:57:33] <NanoSector> cya thid
[22:57:40] <retr0> night thid
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[22:57:52] <retr0> do yall program?
[22:57:56] <retr0> or just use linux for fun
[22:58:29] <NanoSector> or both
[22:58:31] <NanoSector> :)
[22:59:14] <retr0> true same here aha
[22:59:21] <retr0> what languages?
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[22:59:40] <retr0> okay im gonna restart to see if it really has installed
[22:59:42] <retr0> brb
[22:59:44] <retr0> lol
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[23:06:03] <Techknight> Hi guys. do any of you use i3wm?! and in that case do you know where the config file for i3status is stored?
[23:06:17] <NanoSector> never used i3
[23:06:19] <NanoSector> !aw i3
[23:06:19] <Botergos> I3 - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3
[23:06:53] <rhg135> it's ~/.i3status iirc
[23:06:56] <NanoSector> Techknight: ~/.config/i3status/config
[23:07:16] <rhg135> ^ that's a better one
[23:07:57] <Techknight> hmmm it isn't there ?
[23:08:41] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3#i3status
[23:08:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/whdLJH] i3 - ArchWiki
[23:08:46] <NanoSector> you should copy over the default file
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[23:12:55] <Guest40768> i was mounting some disks using gpt partition labels using /dev/disk/by-partlabel. these disks show in fdisk -l but there is no longer a directory called by-partlabel in /dev/disk
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[23:31:20] <stibbi> still no luck with my headphones -.-
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