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[00:31:01] * ringo best wishes
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[00:34:05] <manjaroDeepin> happy new year
[00:35:34] <manjaroDeepin> torsocks bootstrap only 90%
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[03:37:18] <manjaro-kde5_> ?
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[05:09:21] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
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[07:31:40] <CountryfiedLinux> Happy New Year!
[07:33:12] <bugzbunny> u 2
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[08:30:38] <Vlado9A> gm all, happy new year
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[08:45:24] <Amdgpu> how to use manjaro tools for build copy of my system
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[09:39:22] <b0n> Amdgpu: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Build_Manjaro_ISOs_with_buildiso
[09:39:23] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7CNgs8] Build Manjaro ISOs with buildiso - Manjaro Linux
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[10:01:31] <fluffy> hay stuped qwestion im been trying to find how to install vertualbox on manjaro linux but cant find anything on the matter dose anyone know a way as to how
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[10:27:14] <fluffy> https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPr45lZmwUG dose anyone know how to fix this
[10:27:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/FJTOSP] /TheP(aste)?B\.in/i - For all your pasting needs!
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[10:30:58] <CountryfiedLinux> If I don't eat raising bran regularly I regret it later. Am I getting old?
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[10:31:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Is heartburn next? Will I have to take antacids wherever I go? And what about Depends?
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[10:39:25] <b0n> pacman -S virtualbox ?
[10:44:51] <CountryfiedLinux> b0n, And don't forget sudo. It's the Linux translation of the word please. :P
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[11:02:40] <b0n> alias p "sudo pacman"
[11:02:53] <b0n> im too lazy to type out pacman
[11:02:56] <b0n> i just use p
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[11:04:29] <CountryfiedLinux> We could use a more simplified package manager. For example 'install firefox' or 'remove gimp' or 'update system'.
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[11:05:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I wonder what Chinese cursive looks like.
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[11:28:41] <ringo> xxxxxxxxxx
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[11:39:33] <magican> Well, something i forgot aswell, like facebook @ firefox, fonts look not that sexy.. what was the fix?
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[11:40:56] <ringo> magican,  remove favebook :)
[11:41:06] <Vlado9A> and remove firefox :)
[11:41:43] <ringo> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-font-size/
[11:41:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/paip2D] Facebook Font Size :: Add-ons for Firefox
[11:41:46] <magican> Hah ;P
[11:41:54] <magican> lets see how chromium look then
[11:42:02] <ringo> is for old people :)
[11:42:57] <magican> U  guys win, chromium look normal (like windozzz), so why are firefox retarded?
[11:42:59] <magican> :)
[11:43:11] <ringo> i use google-chrome :)
[11:43:31] <magican> difference is..?
[11:43:50] <ringo> i like http://i.imgur.com/rgY4WPj.png  (joking)
[11:43:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/E6M3zh] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[11:44:01] <ringo> whats difference?
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[11:44:09] <ringo> chromium+nonfree software
[11:44:12] <ringo> lol
[11:44:25] <Dearu> google=bigbrother
[11:44:28] <ringo> but i get from a Repo
[11:44:40] <ringo> quicker in update lol
[11:44:48] <ringo> no aur :)
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[11:45:40] <magican> ah
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[11:47:07] <ringo> lol
[11:49:51] <magican> ttf-dejavu was it.. solves firefox stupid fontissue
[11:51:30] <ringo> this wil solve : http://fontsup.com/full-search/magican-fonts.html
[11:51:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/VTr0Ul] Magican Fonts
[11:53:32] <ringo> :)
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[11:54:18] <magican> :D
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[11:56:44] <Nikky> printf '\a' should make my laptop beep correct ?
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[12:02:54] <ringo> script?
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[12:09:08] <Nikky> actually apparently terminology does something weird where it plays its own sound.. but the PC speaker beep never worked
[12:09:19] <Nikky> so it stops working when i use terminator
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[12:15:07] <ringo> you use enlightend?
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[12:32:43] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning
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[12:33:30] <ringo> hi CountryfiedLinux
[12:33:56] <CountryfiedLinux> I got my newly purchased refurbished laptop. :D
[12:34:02] <CountryfiedLinux> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3520M CPU @ 2.90GHz (2.90GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (6.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 43.1 GiB / 104.2 GiB (61.1 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M • Uptime: 21h 26m 20s
[12:34:09] <ringo> when i get mine ?
[12:34:13] <CountryfiedLinux> haha
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[12:34:25] <CountryfiedLinux> ringo, When you buy my Acer from me for $200.
[12:34:27] <ringo> you know i am poor :)
[12:34:43] <ringo> 9200$ct
[12:34:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Me too. Right now anyhow.
[12:34:46] <ringo> :)
[12:35:00] <ringo> magican,  can sponsor me
[12:35:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Lots of days missed from work from injury, then some call outs because they work me double shifts and I can't recover in time to return that night after getting off.
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[12:35:37] <ringo> when do you fix that laptop ?
[12:36:00] <CountryfiedLinux> What do you mean?
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[12:36:29] <ringo> yeah ; when do you remove the Windows out :)
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[12:39:02] <harish2309> how often do i get updates
[12:39:07] <CountryfiedLinux> ringo, It's got an easy access SSD, and I'll be getting another SSD. One for Linux, one for Windows.
[12:39:10] <harish2309> on octipi
[12:39:27] <ringo> depend 1/2  weeks
[12:39:34] <harish2309> okay
[12:39:46] <harish2309> they are slower than a tortoise
[12:39:51] <harish2309> i mean the mirrors
[12:40:13] <ringo> already did sudo pacman-mirrors -g ?
[12:40:30] <harish2309> nop
[12:42:18] <harish2309> : Generated and saved '/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist' mirrorlist.
[12:42:29] <CountryfiedLinux> ringo, I'll be using both Windows and Linux.
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[12:45:46] <ringo> harish2309,  sudo pacman -Syy
[12:45:47] <ringo> now
[12:45:51] <ringo> is it quicker?
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[12:45:59] <ringo> do checkupdates
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[12:48:15] <ringo> CountryfiedLinux,  :)
[12:48:25] <ringo> you know :) i use linux only :)
[12:48:38] <CountryfiedLinux> No BSD? iOS?
[12:49:01] <ringo> nah dont need personally
[12:49:19] <ringo> but  BSD and Linux is just a talk
[12:49:39] <ringo> freedom on different ways
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[13:06:59] <adamali> happy new year
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[13:08:38] <ringo> adamali,  you 2 :)
[13:09:01] <adamali> hey ringo,do you use mpv?
[13:10:06] <ringo> personally not :)
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[13:11:29] <ringo> you search for players for mpv ?
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[13:13:46] <adamali> yeah thinking switching to mpv
[13:14:20] <ringo> smplayer ?
[13:14:34] <ringo> i dont mind of things is just to try :)
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[13:26:27] <negen> switching ? that is a odd thing
[13:27:31] <negen> I prefer mpv since It seems to have the best functions and works the clearest as in it does what you tell it to do without fualtering
[13:29:43] <ringo> you serious negen ?
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[13:31:15] <negen> yeah
[13:31:19] <negen> why
[13:31:46] <ringo> thats nice :)
[13:32:38] <ringo> everyone got also its preference
[13:32:51] <adamali> how to remove black border in mpv?
[13:33:28] <adamali> when viewing fullscreen,i can increase width/height in mpc, how to do this in mpv?
[13:33:30] <ringo> pure mpv ?
[13:33:40] <adamali> yup
[13:33:49] <ringo> negen knows it :)
[13:34:02] <ringo> me is a mixture i stil got vlc* xplayer whatever
[13:34:27] <negen> so you want to scale a video to a different resolution than its native resolution
[13:34:28] <negen> ?
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[13:35:15] <negen> I always play videos in their native resolution up to 1080p in the same aspect ratio that they were filmed in
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[13:36:38] <adamali> yup
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[13:38:04] <adamali> i already made some mpv.conf and made some working config
[13:38:17] <negen> so if you play a movie that is less than 1920x1080 it will have black bars on the top and bottom
[13:38:28] <negen> well on my monitor that is
[13:38:44] <adamali> but still got nothing with this upscale thing
[13:38:47] <adamali> yeah like that
[13:39:28] <adamali> but instead black bars,i want to upscale them to fill the screen
[13:39:32] <negen> so if a movie is 720p at a resolution of 1280x696 then it will of course have black bars
[13:39:36] <adamali> like ringo said,personal preference :D
[13:40:22] <negen> yeah i do not know how to distort the films like that using a video player
[13:40:29] <ringo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djA9q8mJbuM my brother
[13:40:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/yhUOcC] Johnny Depp in Rango Movie Trailer 3-4-2011 - YouTube
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[13:41:46] <adamali> i found this https://github.com/SteveJobzniak/mpv-tools/blob/master/quick-scale.lua
[13:41:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fb8kJS] mpv-tools/quick-scale.lua at master · SteveJobzniak/mpv-tools · GitHub
[13:42:02] <ringo> !apkg smplayer
[13:42:02] <Botergos> smplayer - Media player with built-in codecs that can play virtually all video and audio formats -- version 16.11.0-1 - https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/smplayer
[13:42:14] <negen> there is an option in mpv called panscan that you can use
[13:42:21] <adamali> is it true mpv will autoload any lua in ~/.config/mpv/scripts
[13:42:24] <negen> https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/DOCS/man/options.rst
[13:42:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IVBaDB] mpv/options.rst at master · mpv-player/mpv · GitHub
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[13:45:26] <negen> adamali, you would have to have the load script option set to yes to auto load the scripts from your config folder
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[13:55:28] <harish2309> thank you ringo its much faster now!
[13:55:42] <harish2309> it should be doing this automatically
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[14:01:24] <ringo> harish2309,  normal yeag
[14:01:41] <ringo> but update rate of manjaro is different then arch
[14:01:49] <ringo> or you must go to testing or unstable
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[14:52:45] <aris2> hi room i have a conflict between in upgrade to stable kmail-account-wizard   and   kdepim-common what should i do yes doews not help
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[14:53:14] <aris2> it says Interrupt signal received
[14:54:04] <ringo> aris2,  can you pastebin that ?
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[14:56:28] <aris2> <ringo> u wont understand because terminal uses greek i found the same problem in the forum in unstable
[14:56:52] <elh9> hello
[14:57:12] <aris2> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/unstable-update-2016-12-28-linux-4-10-rc1-plasma-5-8-5-cinnamon-3-2-7-haskell-python/14757/22 the user wolfyrion discribes it but didnt find a solution
[14:57:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4SzE4k] [Unstable Update] 2016-12-28 - Linux 4.10-rc1, Plasma 5.8.5, Cinnamon 3.2.7, Haskell, Python - Unstable Updates - Manjaro
[14:59:12] <elh9> is it ok that pacman wants to replace kdebase_* packages with extra* packages when running  -Syu?
[14:59:44] <elh9> or is it best to leave the kde packages alone?
[14:59:46] <aris2> i dont use kdepim-common if i press no
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[15:00:05] <aris2> is it ok i hope
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[15:01:09] <manjaroCinnamon> how to update grub??
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[15:03:10] <manjaroCinnamon> ...
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[15:05:49] <ringo> sudo update-grub
[15:06:26] <elh9> google gives a nice little 6 step if you search "how to update grub"
[15:07:20] <elh9> # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:07:24] <ringo> !lmgtfy update-grub
[15:07:50] <ringo> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=update-grub+manjaro
[15:07:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PF6Gsk] LMGTFY
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[15:18:51] <elh9> manjaro is pretty cool
[15:19:25] <mallowmow> Can anyone help me with this conflict I encountered when performing a system update? The log is here: http://pastebin.com/Gg4XrkuN
[15:19:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aCcfvr] :: Starting full system upgrade...  :: Replace kdebase-kdialog with extra/kdialo - Pastebin.com
[15:19:44] <elh9> yeah do it
[15:19:48] <elh9> press y
[15:19:58] <mallowmow> I did, look at the log
[15:21:51] <elh9> that libkgeomap4 is some theme package
[15:21:59] <elh9> can you just uninstall that?
[15:22:33] <mallowmow> I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking.
[15:22:34] <elh9> uninstall marble package
[15:22:39] <elh9> its just a theme
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[15:24:08] <elh9> actuall
[15:24:09] <elh9> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/marble/
[15:24:10] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4aAK4T] Arch Linux - marble 16.12.0-1 (x86_64)
[15:24:19] <ringo> keep marble is good
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[15:24:27] <elh9> neh sif geolocate
[15:24:48] <mallowmow> removing the libmarble theme cant happen as they say that will break the dependency
[15:25:06] <ringo> but is from the KDE4 ?
[15:25:08] <elh9> burn computer
[15:25:24] <elh9> buy android tablet
[15:25:26] <mallowmow> please, just stop elh9, that's just not helpful
[15:25:27] <elh9> be happy
[15:25:29] <elh9> sorry
[15:25:34] <ringo> pacman -Qi libmarlble4
[15:25:40] <ringo> pacman -Qi libmarble4
[15:25:49] <ringo> you see what package need,  pastebin it?
[15:26:09] <mallowmow> sure, ringo
[15:26:59] <mallowmow> http://pastebin.com/1dybRrPc
[15:27:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EZA8xw] Name            : libmarble4  Version         : 15.08.3-2  Description     : KDE - Pastebin.com
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[15:28:01] <ringo> a wel upstream is bit changed so
[15:28:30] <ringo> libmarble4  and libkgeomap4  is out
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[15:28:41] <ringo> libkgeomap4 is now libkgeomap
[15:29:02] <mallowmow> ringo: so what do you think I should do?
[15:29:45] <ringo> remove those to reinstall marble and libkgeomap
[15:30:31] <mallowmow> so remove libmarble4  and libkgeomap4?
[15:30:42] <ringo> yeah its KDE4 group anyway
[15:31:16] <ringo> but  if that fail let me know first
[15:31:32] <mallowmow> sure
[15:32:12] <cgmor> close
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[15:33:33] <mallowmow> ringo: that worked, thanks man
[15:34:10] <ringo> if its part of a theme i dont know, but i think would not horrified..
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[15:44:21] <aris2> guys to stop the conflict kmail-account-wizard and kdepim-common are in conflict yes or no in the terminal do not help is it ok to delete kdepim-common in octopi and try again????
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[15:50:27] <aris2> any ideas about kmail-account-wizard and kdepim-common are in conflict
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[15:52:51] <ringo> aris2,  mayby
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[15:54:32] <ringo> aris2,  would be helpfull if you do sudo pacman -Syu   , and output on pastebin service
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[15:54:55] <ringo> kde seems to  have a renaming kdepim-common isnt there anymore
[15:55:06] <aris2> ringo thanx i ll do that
[15:55:07] <Strit_Laptop> Yep.
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[15:55:41] <ringo> answer ll Y
[15:55:43] <ringo> :)
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[15:57:12] <aris2> http://pastebin.com/CBx77kC7
[15:57:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/D98pf1] [aris@aris-pc ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu   [sudo] password for aris:   :: Συγχρο - Pastebin.com
[15:57:54] <Strit_Laptop> aris2: you need to press Yes on the last one too
[15:58:12] <aris2> both fail i think but ok
[15:58:26] <Strit_Laptop> We need the english error message for the Yes one. :)
[15:59:56] <aris2> guys it worked with yes thanx alot
[16:00:13] <Strit_Laptop> np
[16:01:29] <aris2> in octopi i used after the terminal and didnt work i run octopi not sudo pacman -Syu is send me to terminal and failed both yes and no
[16:02:04] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, Octopi/Pamac can be weird like that.
[16:02:33] <aris2> Thaanx a lot to everyone here happy new year wish u the best. U rock helping novice guys like me these days
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[16:54:16] <manjaro-web|463> hey
[16:54:34] <manjaro-web|463> anyone here
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[16:58:43] <jak> lo
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[16:59:15] <jak> anybody there
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[17:00:43] * kn8fury is a newbie too
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[17:02:44] <vreus> Hello there, I've tried to install "Xfce 16.10.3 64 Bit". Used the erase disk option with encryption to install to /dev/sda. Installation seemed to be OK, but when I try to boot my computer from /dev/sda disk, I just doesn't. Like GRUB is not even installed, throwing back to boot device selection. Any ideas?
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[17:12:29] <fh> Hi - any calamares experts availabe?
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[17:16:45] <thng> Hello. I'm new here! Well, I was thinking about how to install packages from third partys, like Chrome, WPS or something like that, which they only offers in rpm and deb packages. Is there a good practice to extract an rpm or deb (I don't know which is better) and install it in manjaro? I say it because I see a problem: the autoupdates repository.
[17:16:45] <thng> That means, if I extract files from Chrome rpm package, then put it in the root directories it could work well I think. But what happen if I upgrade? I think the Chrome will download the latest version in rpm, and it still can't install. What's the best recommendation? (and please forgive me if there are english grammar errors, my level isn't high)
[17:17:47] <fhdk> @thng You will find most packages in AUR
[17:18:16] <thng> yeah, ok. From ArchLinux or from here in Manjaro?
[17:18:20] <fhdk> Is there any Calamares gurus present?
[17:18:50] <thng> but anyway, I would like to learn how to do it
[17:19:15] <fhdk> Manjaro makes AUR available - use yaourt or Pamac to install
[17:20:27] <fhdk> @thng EG chrome you would do     yaourt -S google-chrome
[17:22:52] <thng> ok, thanks fhdk
[17:25:22] <thng> it tells me: unsupported package, it could be dangerous!! Do you want edit PKGBUILD? why it say? Why is it unsupported?
[17:26:00] <fhdk> It is a standard disclaimer on everything installed from AUR.
[17:26:47] <thng> ah, ok
[17:27:09] <fhdk> It does mean unsupported in the sense that it is not a part of the official repo
[17:27:37] <thng> ok
[17:28:14] <fhdk> The edit thingy is meant as a safe so the user can see what action will be performed and the option of changing it if malicious
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[17:28:57] <thng> but it's safe, no? I mean, although it isn't official package from google, but it is the same, or the autor has modified something in chrome? (or in another app)
[17:29:17] <thng> ah understood
[17:29:18] <thng> ok
[17:29:38] <thng> so then, I'm going to check to edit option
[17:29:55] <fhdk> yes - it probably is - if unsafe I am sure it would be removed faster than you can say malicious
[17:31:31] <thng> that is good
[17:32:01] <fhdk> indeed
[17:34:07] <thng> reading the PKGBUILD through nano, I see in option it: !emptydirs ... what means that? It will erase files from home or something?
[17:34:37] <thng> and !strip
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[17:36:08] <fhdk> no - it means not emptydirs - and not strip
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[17:38:41] <thng> ah... understood
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[17:42:56] <fhdk> ping any Calamares guru
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[17:46:56] <fhdk> @Strit_Laptop
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[17:53:48] <Strit_Laptop> fhdk: hi
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[17:56:12] <fhdk> Hi - I have a weird calamares error trying to install uefi boot loader on the 17-dev
[17:56:52] <Strit_Laptop> I've heard about that. Can't confirm though, as I haven't tried the 17.0 alpha builds. :)
[17:57:32] <fhdk> Strit_Laptop: think I found why - did a chroot - and retried > grub-install: error: efibootmgr: not found.
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[17:58:22] <Strit_Laptop> Ah. Can you install it? It should be in Core repo
[17:59:24] <fhdk> yes - did a pacman -S efibootmgr dosfstools grub but it was only efibootmgr that was missing
[18:00:21] <fhdk> also had to exit chroot and modprobe efivarfs and then back in chroot mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
[18:00:44] <ringo> is possible to validate this on bugs.manjaro.org ?
[18:01:15] <fhdk> originally - this command failed grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=manjaro --force
[18:02:29] <fhdk> but after the fixes it ran as expected - I am on the very machine - and going for a reboot - see ya
[18:02:52] <Strit_Laptop> ok, cya
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[18:05:06] <torvic9> hi
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[18:05:20] <Ero_> Hi All, trying to boot manjaro and i'm getting the error "[drm:fw_domains_get [i915]] *ERROR* render: timed out waiting for forcewake ack request
[18:05:50] <fh> Strit_Laptop: Well - it booted nicely
[18:06:04] <Ero_> i've briefly read through search engine about applying a patch to the kernel? I've never done this before, has the issue been addressed in aomw orhwe qY?
[18:06:29] <Ero_> some other way*
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[18:06:45] <Strit_Laptop> fh: nice
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[18:07:23] <fh> Strit_Laptop: report on bugs?
[18:07:59] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah. If it's not there already
[18:08:19] <fh> strit_laptop: I mean the solution :)
[18:09:03] <Strit_Laptop> The real solution is ofcourse that efibootmgr is for some reason missing on the ISO, and should be added. :)
[18:09:36] <fh> Strit_Laptop: Thats what I meant :)
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[18:11:08] <fh> Strit_Laptop: But is it missing? The image booted as expected into UEFI - isnt efibootmgr in root img?
[18:12:21] <Strit_Laptop> I would imagine it's a wrong "dependency" of Calamares. But I don't know.
[18:12:45] <Strit_Laptop> The alpha iso's use Calamares-Dev I think.
[18:14:00] <ringo> i do think personally is because of modularity
[18:14:09] <fh> strit_laptop: by the way - my isp is fibia - and in a foreseeable future we are upping to 300
[18:14:52] <Strit_Laptop> fh: yeah, looked up your hostname address. Can't get Fibia where I am either. :(
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[18:15:38] <Strit_Laptop> Me too ringo. :) A module of Calamares needs efibootmgr, but it's not a dependency of Calamares-dev it seems.
[18:17:16] <fh> strit_laptop: after the up - with my static ip it as ridicoulus low as €50/m
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[18:17:45] <Strit_Laptop> fh: I got the max line I can get at my place atm, which is 120/40. :(
[18:18:00] <Strit_Laptop> Well, for a reasonable price anyway.
[18:18:38] <fh> strit_laptop: and then its worth it :)
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[18:19:54] <Strit_Laptop> I'd like to have fiber though, but sadly, it's not implemented here in the province yet. :)
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[18:21:35] <fh> strit_laptop: well i'm the province too - dont be fooled by the reverse hostname - i live in the capitol of the province
[18:22:15] <nedstark> does adding the AUR as a repo and checking for AUR updates make manjaro unstable?
[18:22:44] <nedstark> a guy on youtube was complaining about updates trashing his system in october
[18:23:10] <fh> nedstark: i'm no authority on that but i have never had problems
[18:24:02] <nedstark> he said he was going to ubuntu for more stability, which is ironic because its not really, i use it on another pc
[18:24:42] <fh> nedstark: there was an update that caused some grief but that was an upstream (Arch) isssue which could be remedied by switching to terminal and running pacman -Syyu
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[18:26:32] <fh> nedstark: indeed - have been there - supporting a local usergroup of ubuntu users age 50+ - they seems to think ubuntu is linux and there is no other - may they go with pease
[18:28:22] <fh> see you around - disconnecting
[18:28:27] <nedstark> bye
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[18:30:51] <manjaro-web|7891> hello, I'm a new in manjaro
[18:31:15] <manjaro-web|7891> someone can eplane to me how can i install skype?
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[18:31:38] <manjaro-web|7891> I'm italian
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[18:36:55] <GeekK> manjaro-kde5: it can be installed via pamac/aur
[18:37:14] <GeekK> first enable aur of course
[18:38:09] <Strit_Laptop> GeekK: The person left. :)
[18:38:26] <GeekK> oh oops, thx Strit_Laptop
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[18:41:25] <GeekK> even though I meant manjaro-web|7891, but he left too.. :P
[18:41:35] <Strit_Laptop> I know
[18:41:40] <GeekK> heh
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[18:42:38] <GeekK> trying foobar2000 on playonlinux now... still indexing the music
[18:42:59] <manjaroDeepin> Hello
[18:43:20] <GeekK> hey manjaroDeepin
[18:43:34] <manjaroDeepin> hey Geekk
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[19:03:21] <kritikk> i just installed manjaro, its awsome
[19:03:38] <kritikk> is it rolling release?
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[19:09:16] <CupOfCoffee> kritikk, you ask if manjaro is a rolling release ?
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[19:10:08] <CupOfCoffee> kritikk, https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/The_Rolling_Release_Development_Model
[19:10:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/uRkvVF] The Rolling Release Development Model - Manjaro Linux
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[19:15:09] <kritikk> so its the same version all the time, just need to upgrade ?
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[19:16:40] <nedstark> you just need to update it, no point upgrades
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[19:17:43] <kritikk> bad expression, i wanted to say that thanks
[19:21:18] <rmx77> hello there all
[19:21:22] <rmx77> whats goin down
[19:23:27] <rmx77> i have a little issue sad;y ots a flash issue where i installed flash to the os and firefox doesnt see the plugin and then i tried chromium and there is no flash installed for that browser at all so hmmm idk what to do
[19:25:47] <nedstark> maybe try installing chrome from the AUR
[19:25:59] <nedstark> its safer for flash use
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[19:28:01] <Celgost> hola
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[19:28:44] <rmx77> i installed chromium from the aur and i installed flash but neither do any good
[19:28:59] <nedstark> i mean google chrome not chromium
[19:29:06] <Celgost> go for chhrome
[19:29:07] <nedstark> flash is handled differently, its built in
[19:29:18] <Celgost> yaourt -S google-chrome
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[19:31:21] <CupOfCoffee> Celgost, you dont need -S
[19:32:17] <Celgost> CupOfCoffee: ty
[19:32:50] <Strit_Laptop> CupOfCoffee: actually, the -S just tells yaourt to install the package directly.
[19:32:52] <CupOfCoffee> Celgost, np i think it much nice that way you have a search and download in one
[19:33:18] <kritikk> should we use yaourt (difficult for writing) or pacman?
[19:33:56] <Celgost> kritikk: yaourt is for aur packages (community maintained)
[19:34:02] <CupOfCoffee> kritikk, pacman is for normal repos and yaourt is you AUR
[19:34:11] <kritikk> i didnt knew that
[19:34:16] <kritikk> thanks
[19:34:19] <CupOfCoffee> AUR(Arch User Repo..)
[19:34:27] <nedstark> you can turn on AUR searches and updates in pamac in the desktop environment
[19:34:42] <nedstark> the Add/Remove Software app
[19:34:52] <CupOfCoffee> prefer CLI
[19:35:02] <kritikk> i thought it was the same
[19:35:03] <Celgost> CupOfCoffee: sure, if we don't use pamac :p i didn't know and i love this
[19:35:06] <kritikk> ignorance
[19:35:27] <Celgost> kritikk: knowledge cant exist without ignorance
[19:35:34] <CupOfCoffee> i could always try it
[19:36:11] <nedstark> its good to learn the shell commands just in case the desktop environment fails to load one day
[19:36:22] <Celgost> CupOfCoffee: depends of your mood, oldschool vibes
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[19:36:37] <CupOfCoffee> need go later
[19:36:56] <Celgost> hola CountryfiedLinux :)
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[19:39:32] <kritikk> i love Yakuake on KDE its wonderfull
[19:39:38] <kritikk> fast terminal
[19:39:59] <rmx77> well looks like any time i try to install from yaourt it seems to ask me something bout edit package build and when i tell it no it errors out
[19:41:05] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. what error?
[19:41:49] <rmx77> ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is not allowed as it can cause permanent,
[19:41:49] <rmx77> catastrophic damage to your system.
[19:41:50] <kritikk> im installing discord with yaourt, it showed me the same
[19:42:01] <kritikk> exit root
[19:42:03] <rmx77> ==> ERROR: An unknown error has occurred. Exiting...
[19:42:03] <rmx77> Unable to read PKGBUILD
[19:42:12] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. don't use sudo with yaourt.
[19:42:33] <Celgost> rmx77: yaourt will ask you pass if needed
[19:43:30] <rmx77> hmm well i wonder why yaourt is different from pacman that it cant use the sudo stuff
[19:44:07] <Strit_Laptop> rmx77: because it's handling user generated content.
[19:44:27] <rmx77> oh
[19:44:35] <Strit_Laptop> A user could have put "rm -rf /" in his pkgbuild and you would give him permission to run it, if you gave it sudo rights.
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[19:45:14] <Celgost> lol its a nice idea
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[19:47:01] <Strit_Laptop> So when it comes to AUR packages, always check the PKGBUILD, and never run yaourt/pacaur with sudo.
[19:47:13] <rmx77> ok
[19:47:25] <rmx77> and now google chrome wont work with flash either
[19:48:02] <rmx77> wait there it goes sorta
[19:48:06] <rmx77> there
[19:48:14] <rmx77> i had to reboot the browser
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[19:49:22] <Strit_Laptop> Ofcourse. You can't change a component and expect it to work right away. The app needs to reload it's components.
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[19:51:05] <rmx77> yea
[19:53:24] * Strit_Laptop is watching Underworld: Awakening (2012).
[19:54:12] <ringo> i dont use chrome from aur :)
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[20:03:42] <rmx77> oh
[20:03:48] <rmx77> hmm strange
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[20:03:57] <rmx77> what does ringo use
[20:05:57] <ringo> google-chrome from a repo prebuild :p
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[20:08:19] <Celgost> west world
[20:08:29] <Celgost> is so good
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[20:16:39] <CountryfiedLinux> Strit_Laptop, I don't think the AUR allows users to run it with sudo.
[20:17:55] <Strit_Laptop> AUR is just PKGBUILDS. yaourt doesn't allow sudo. :) And makepkg does not allow sudo either. But it could still happen.
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[20:24:18] <Celgost> locate i3exit
[20:24:23] <Celgost> fack oops
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[20:28:29] <ringo> someone experience with fixing bricked Smartphone? :)
[20:32:48] <b0n> what kind of phone
[20:33:56] <b0n> rmx77: you need to install chrome-pepper-flash or whatever its called to get flash working
[20:34:01] <ringo> huawei g510
[20:34:19] <ringo> tried to install other os but forgoth most importand :p
[20:34:25] <ringo> so yeah purple screen
[20:34:27] <b0n> can you boot to recovery mode?
[20:34:32] <b0n> or fastboot?
[20:34:39] <b0n> power + vol down
[20:34:57] <ringo> cannot boot intoo it try to read now :) and understand possibilitys otherway trashcan :)
[20:35:10] <ringo> now download the stock firmware
[20:35:13] <b0n> if you can get into fastboot you cn save it
[20:35:36] <b0n> hold the power button til it turns off then hold volume down + power to try and get into fastboot.
[20:36:35] <ringo> is image signature fail
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[20:36:49] <ringo> also recovery
[20:36:50] <ringo> :)
[20:36:55] <b0n> the download failed?
[20:37:14] <ringo> what do you mean?
[20:37:33] <ringo> now busy downloading orginal firmware
[20:37:50] <b0n> oh ok
[20:38:06] <b0n> you might be able to use odin but id try fastboot first
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[20:39:48] <rmx77> yea i got it now b0n i have the google chrome runnin
[20:40:10] * CountryfiedLinux wonders why his laptop has a nub when it also has a touchpad
[20:40:21] <ringo> you might use a repo for google-chrome, it updates quicker then chromium also
[20:40:41] <nedstark> apple is in trouble, they are having to cut iphone 7 production and give it away "free" through an AT&T deal now
[20:40:48] <ringo> peak at http://repo.herecura.be/   , add this to your pacman.conf
[20:40:50] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/TLLhtw] archlinux repository
[20:40:54] <b0n> yea because no one is buying iphones anymore
[20:41:03] <nedstark> or macs
[20:41:05] <b0n> the world finally realized they are overpriced trash :)
[20:41:12] <nedstark> cook hasn't worked out
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[20:41:29] <ringo> signature you already have of this packager
[20:41:34] <b0n> im glad to see them sink with all the damage theyve caused to the enviornment and shit
[20:41:59] <ringo> i like the sailfish , want to have it
[20:42:56] <b0n> hundreds of chinese workers hurl themselves off apple factory rooves to their deathes because of the unfit working conditions..
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[20:44:41] <ringo> b0n,  iphone and samsung is same factory
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[20:45:32] <ringo> b0n,  is not only with those products lolz
[20:45:43] <nedstark> b0n, all of those companies are the same
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[20:45:58] <nedstark> there aren't any non-polling worker rights-respecting chinese manufacturers
[20:45:58] <b0n> mac is so useless that apple uses windows machines in their factories..
[20:46:07] <nedstark> non-polluting not non-polling
[20:46:44] <b0n> actually there is. theres this thing called the epeat speficiation which is a standard for all electronic devices. it approves the "Green-ness" of their manufacturing process
[20:46:46] <nedstark> beijing's smog is horrible and its common across china
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[20:47:10] <b0n> as of 2015 not one apple product passed epeat. the really pathetic thing is epeate was founded by steve jobs.
[20:47:31] <nedstark> they won't even let foreigners into the manufacturing sectors of cities like shenzhen without special approval for a dog and pony show
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[20:54:57] <CountryfiedLinux> nedstark, I read that the new Macbook outsold every other PC manufacturer.
[20:55:10] <brutus> great, now i want to watch a dog and pony show
[20:56:39] <brutus> b0n: their factories? I wasn't aware they actually had factories. as far as i know, all their products are made in china and not by apple themselves. they design it on apple machines
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[20:57:13] <b0n> tim cook took a picture of himself at a factory in china . the computer in the background was running windows lol
[20:57:30] <brutus> yeah but it's a foxcon factory, not an apple factory
[20:57:48] <b0n> i wouldnt know
[20:58:06] <b0n> if anything id buy a mac to put linux on it :^)
[20:58:11] <brutus> heh
[20:58:26] <nedstark> apple outsources to contract factories but enforces their own requirements on them.
[20:58:38] <ringo> each big company's outsource
[20:58:43] <ringo> is reality :)
[20:58:43] <brutus> well, steve started apple and it turned out to be a great company. then they kicked him out of his own company and it almost went bankrupt, then hired steve back and he turned apple around into a great company. then he died
[20:58:47] <ringo> even samsung
[20:58:55] <nedstark> some of them just buy vendor-designed systems
[20:59:04] <nedstark> apple still engineers their own
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[20:59:17] <b0n> apple has never invented anything...they just steal things and "refine them"
[20:59:20] <brutus> i bought the first gen intel macbook. man that thing was awesome. i was sad when it died (due to lightening strike)
[20:59:28] <brutus> b0n: they also don't claim they did
[20:59:32] <b0n> even the name iphone was bought from netgear...
[21:00:14] <brutus> they turn a terrible product into a great product. there weren't any good MP3 players out there, until the ipod was released. there wasn't a good smartphone until the iphone was released, there wasn't a good tablet until the ipad was released
[21:00:32] <brutus> they didn't invent any of the products, they just found a way to make it better and sell it to the masses
[21:00:42] <brutus> b0n: not netgear.... CISCO
[21:00:43] <b0n> i had the t mobile g1
[21:00:48] <b0n> and it was great :p
[21:01:01] <brutus> lol that wasn't great, that was horrible
[21:01:16] <b0n> once you got CM on it it was much more usable
[21:01:37] <nedstark> now CM is dead, i think
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[21:01:45] <b0n> yep
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[21:01:52] <brutus> i started with windows mobile 4 or 5. when the battery died, you lost all data.
[21:01:54] <b0n> actually its coming back under a different name - LineageOS
[21:02:05] <brutus> then i think 6 came along, then 6.5 or something, all horrible, really really bad
[21:02:15] <brutus> can't even call those windows devices smartphones, they were so bad
[21:02:20] <nedstark> they should base it on android 7
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[21:02:47] <b0n> they wont, they cant make royalties on that lol
[21:02:51] <nedstark> the privacy safeguards are better in 7, like limiting specific apps privileges
[21:03:10] <brutus> but the first iphone, the one that didn't even had an app store. man that was something. wasn't released in my country, but some people used it. then the iphone 3 came out and it was pretty much the perfect smartphone at the time. all other companies started to copy them
[21:03:36] <b0n> apple tried to patent round rectangle shaped devices...
[21:04:20] <brutus> same thing with the mp3 player. i had one. i had a very expensive 64MB USB MP3 player. that thing sucked big time. My mouth dropped open when i held the iPod Mini. I picked out my debit card and bought it right away. I still have that thing, I still use it from time to time.
[21:04:29] <b0n> i did really love my ipod back in the day
[21:04:44] <brutus> only problem that the ipod had was that it had to use itunes.
[21:05:26] <brutus> i still miss the macbook i had sometimes. it was so nice. It ran linux most of it's days. ubuntu with gnome 2 was just so nice running on that hardware
[21:06:10] <brutus> but the charger, the screen, the casing, it's so much better then what you can buy right now. i don't know about new macbooks, but most other brands are so meh
[21:06:22] <b0n> i really like my surface :p
[21:06:33] <brutus> i've never seen a surface in real life
[21:06:54] <b0n> the thing that sells it for me is the keyboard. the first thing that breaks in most laptops is the hinge that connects the keyboard..and then you have to use an external one
[21:07:01] <b0n> with the surface you just pop it out and slap a new one on
[21:07:13] <brutus> oh it's a tablet eh?
[21:07:19] <b0n> im on it right now
[21:07:33] <brutus> i got an old laptop. Dell E6430 ATG. I can drop it, i can spill water on it, it just keeps going
[21:07:41] <b0n> its not a tablet. its more like one of those ultraportable laptops
[21:07:45] <b0n> you can use it as a tablet tho
[21:07:47] <brutus> ahh ok
[21:07:55] <brutus> wouldn't be the first thing i'd look t
[21:07:57] <brutus> *at
[21:08:00] <b0n> the new ones come with a discrete nvidia gpu
[21:08:19] <b0n> this one didnt. dont recommend buying one without a real gpu. the intel gpu drivers for linux are kinda trash
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[21:08:36] <b0n> the intel gpu is kinda trash in general though
[21:09:00] <b0n> also the surface has that mac style magsafe charger which i love
[21:09:10] <badbodh> trash is treasure for some
[21:09:26] <brutus> the laptop i would like is the pinebook. cheap (89 dollars or 99 dollars or something). would be nice to have on the side. just a simple system, arch on it, i3 or something else lightweight and just take notes etc
[21:09:47] <b0n> ive been tempted to try angetros on here
[21:10:02] <b0n> but after all the dpi crap i had to do i really dont want to go do it again..
[21:10:14] <brutus> hope to build a new desktop this year. skylake or newer, 6 cores or more, must be able to use 4 or more displays in hdpi.
[21:10:27] <brutus> oh and low power usage.
[21:10:30] <b0n> wow the pinebook looks great
[21:10:41] <brutus> yeah it does. it should be a tiny bit faster than the rpi3
[21:11:10] <brutus> i wanted to make a diy laptop with a rpi3, but then i found the pinebook. just waiting for them to send me an e-mail so that i can order it
[21:11:20] <b0n> when does it come out i want one lol
[21:11:22] <brutus> it's still arm though, which is a bit meh
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[21:11:56] <brutus> (with that i mean, you can't use x86/64 software)
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[21:12:23] <b0n> you can with debian ;^)
[21:12:30] <brutus> you can?
[21:12:33] <b0n> multiarch!
[21:12:35] <b0n> of course!
[21:12:36] <brutus> ahh
[21:12:44] <brutus> hmmm, interesting
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[21:12:53] <brutus> i was thinking about trying to see if alpine would isntall on that laptop
[21:13:27] <b0n> im kinda spoiled by my laptops touchscreen so id feel weird not having it
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[21:13:57] <b0n> is there a desktop that is like touch oriented for linux yet? that isnt unity?
[21:14:14] <brutus> oh i really don't need a touchscreen on a laptop
[21:14:28] <brutus> i've had a touchscreen laptop, i've touched it once, then cleaned the screen and never touched it again
[21:14:36] <badbodh> ringo happy 20(brazil)(germany) :P
[21:14:43] <brutus> but, tbh, i gave it back to my boss after a week or 2 because it was horrible
[21:14:57] <b0n> linux has problems with highdpi as of lately
[21:15:01] <brutus> then it got changed to another lenovo (ugh), which was better, but still terrible
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[21:15:09] <b0n> things just dont scale. they are ridiculously small
[21:15:33] <brutus> hmm
[21:15:36] <b0n> and i dont know how to change the scaling. ive hacked at the xfce config but...
[21:15:36] <brutus> weird
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[21:15:47] <b0n> ive also hacked at the gtk config but my window bars and icons are just tiny
[21:15:49] <brutus> i only have normal displays though, i don't think full hd needs hdpi
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[21:16:12] <b0n> https://imgur.com/4RfZPcL
[21:16:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/VeUAUq] Screenshot at 12:16:08.png - Imgur
[21:16:18] <b0n> lookit the size compared to the text lol
[21:16:39] <brutus> no idea what i'm looking at
[21:17:39] <b0n> thats the minimize/maximize/close buttons on this window
[21:17:59] <brutus> so text is huge?
[21:18:03] <brutus> what resolution does your screen have?
[21:18:13] <b0n> text isnt huge. the buttons are small
[21:18:35] <b0n> resolution is ridiculous. 1440x2150 or something
[21:18:40] <b0n> its the native resolution of the surface
[21:19:36] <brutus> hmm ok
[21:19:46] <brutus> that's a widescreen display?
[21:20:01] <b0n> ive been able to change the bottom panel to be bigger but as for actual windows in the os. i cant
[21:20:16] <b0n> i just dont know how to make it bigger
[21:20:24] <b0n> gtk doesnt want to listen
[21:20:34] <b0n> it probably is widescreen
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[21:21:22] <johnvan_pb> #join manjaro-arm
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[21:21:51] <b0n> this aint arm :p
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[21:23:44] <Strit_Laptop> Argh I hate this scripting stuff. Why does it need to be this difficult.
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[21:24:34] <brutus> because otherwise everyone could do it and working in IT would be a low paying job
[21:25:03] <Strit_Laptop> It's really a simple thing I need to do, but I can't figure out how to do it. :P
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[21:28:38] <Strit_Laptop> I wanna use rsync to sync between to folders, where one contains .pkg.tar.xz files and the other contains .pkg.tar.xz and .pkg.tar.xz.sig files. The destination folder (containing also .sig files) needs to preserve the .sig files for the files matching the one in the source folder and delete the rest.
[21:28:56] <superbia> one lines
[21:29:01] <superbia> s/lines/liner
[21:29:37] <brutus> Strit_Laptop: should be someone here that's sober enough to help yhou
[21:30:11] <brutus> post current work on pastebin, share link, hope someone can help?
[21:30:15] <superbia> brutus: the key is to say sober enough
[21:30:20] <brutus> :)
[21:30:21] <Strit_Laptop> Maybe. rsync is like my last solution to get this done automaticly. Else I have to keep doing it manually.
[21:30:52] <brutus> well, i'm drinking whisky from scotland, i can't say i'm sober enough
[21:31:17] <brutus> any reason you can't keep it simple and store files on sshfs?
[21:31:25] <Strit_Laptop> The code i have so far, does not preserve the .sig files, because they do not exist in the source directory.
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[21:31:48] <Strit_Laptop> rsync -azP --delete $UPLOAD/armv6h $ARM/armv6h
[21:32:57] <Strit_Laptop> And I need the --delete one, to delete the old files not needed from the source folder.
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[21:34:14] <brutus> if it doesn't exist in the source, how can it upload them?
[21:35:05] <brutus> is rsync the backup?
[21:35:14] <Strit_Laptop> It will delete the files from destination folder, not the source folder.
[21:35:18] <brutus> if it's not that, you could use sshfs to write it directly
[21:36:13] <Strit_Laptop> brutus: the folders are on the same machine, I just need them to be sync'd, but not completely identical. :P
[21:36:21] <brutus> ahh ok
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[21:36:56] <Strit_Laptop> I know I'm not making much sense.
[21:37:00] <brutus> so you want to sync them to a different location, probably on a different drive, so you have ac opy without using raid?
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[21:37:18] <Strit_Laptop> No. Same drive, just different folders. :)
[21:37:25] <brutus> then whats the point
[21:38:20] <Strit_Laptop> It's for the build server for Manjaro-ARM. The devices build packages into $UPLOAD, and the repo gets synced from $ARM, that's why they need to be 2 places.
[21:39:23] <Strit_Laptop> I just need it to automaticly remove old versions of packages when new versions have been built.
[21:39:42] <brutus> yeah, tricky
[21:40:19] <Strit_Laptop> It is. I've tried with "while read" stuff and some ${file%.*} magic. Not of it works.
[21:40:44] <Strit_Laptop> Been thinking about this all day.
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[21:42:26] <Strit_Laptop> But I think I might have an idea. Completely forget the $ARM folder and just do it all from $UPLOAD, since all devices can write to that folder, they can each delete the previous package from the build script it self, before moving over the newly built package.
[21:44:00] <brutus> still doesn't fix .sig files
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[21:44:45] <brutus> i don't know if old versions have different names
[21:45:53] <Strit_Laptop> They do.
[21:46:03] <brutus> hmm
[21:49:31] <Strit_Laptop> I think I can do it the other way though, without rsync.
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[21:51:32] <brutus> as long as you have a solution
[21:53:44] <Strit_Laptop> I'll find out if it works tonight. :)
[21:53:52] <brutus> good luck
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[21:59:08] <Strit_Laptop> Thank you. All the scripts are now changed to see if it works.
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[22:15:35] <Nytram> Happy New Year Manjaro peeps. ;)
[22:16:07] <brutus> Nytram: happy new year
[22:16:41] <ringo> yo Nytram  take a glass of 2017 for me :)
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[22:17:51] <CountryfiedLinux> I was chatting with a woman on eHarmony that's not a paid subscriber. We were talking for a bit. She asked me what my last name is. Next thing I know she's "moved on". Guess she looked me up and got repulsed? haha.
[22:18:02] <CountryfiedLinux> non-subscribers communicate free but don't see pictures.
[22:18:30] <brutus> CountryfiedLinux: it happens
[22:18:35] <Nytram> Hey ringo, I've haved a fuw awredy. HIC!
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[22:19:18] <Nytram> lol CountryfiedLinux it's a harsh world
[22:20:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Nytram, yep haha
[22:20:37] <CountryfiedLinux> It's like "I just got on here. Lemme check my thousand other options." haha
[22:21:20] <Nytram> Kiddie in a sweet shop? Or Ferret in a chicken Coup?
[22:22:20] <brutus> CountryfiedLinux: when you get past level 30, all dating apps get horribly difficult
[22:22:35] <Nytram> Is that eHarmony a good thing or can it be a bit soul harming?
[22:22:50] <Nytram> level 30? oO
[22:22:51] <bugzbunny> hmm
[22:23:20] <brutus> Nytram: level as in age
[22:25:04] <CountryfiedLinux> brutus, So it's hate the game? :P
[22:25:09] <CountryfiedLinux> level 30 haha
[22:25:36] <CountryfiedLinux> How about those tower defense games. Pay money for gems, or wait 2 days for the upgrade to finish...
[22:26:13] <brutus> no i mean like, i'm level 31, i'm about to reach level 32 in march
[22:26:24] <brutus> the higher you get, the less great the "opposition" is
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[22:29:12] <Nytram> Hang on! We were talking about eHarmony and now we're talking about building defence towers. Somewone explain please or I'll just dive back into my bottle.
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[22:33:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Nytram, Did you know the bottle neck has a useful purpose? If you hold it by the neck it stays cold longer.
[22:33:31] <CountryfiedLinux> That's what it's for.
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[22:34:11] <CountryfiedLinux> Nytram, And eHarmony is useful for people like me that work late shift.
[22:34:30] <CountryfiedLinux> I'd prefer 1st or 2nd shift typically, but at a prison, 3rd shift is best IMO.
[22:34:38] <CountryfiedLinux> Inmates are often very annoying.
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[22:36:26] <Nytram> Hey! CountryfiedLinux that worked with my fife too, the longer I held her by the neck the colder she got. >:)
[22:36:50] <Nytram> *wife
[22:38:05] <CountryfiedLinux> good one Nytram haha
[22:39:00] <Nytram> Sinister joke, but it is just that... a joke. Don't want to be meeting you on your late shift. ;0
[22:39:40] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah prison life sucks.
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[22:40:57] <Nytram> I have a mate who got a medical discharge from the army after an incident in Northern Ireland many years ago. He made a full disclosure and still got ajob in the prison force.
[22:41:33] <Nytram> Got into a fight with an inmate and got a medical discharge from the prison force. He's raking it in now the lucky s*d
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[23:02:50] <Celgost> hey, how can i easily change gtk colors, i've tried many things, but css modifications are really borin
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[23:05:45] <roch> hohoho <3
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[23:08:52] <ringo> jaj im so happy
[23:09:29] <roch> exclent
[23:10:07] <roch> so fantastic, hadn't been arrested :D
[23:10:37] <roch> U excelent ppl,  wish U I
[23:10:51] <Nytram> HEY! No being happy here.... anyone would think it was Christmas. ;)
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[23:11:14] <ringo> fixed my damn phone
[23:11:18] <ringo> < stupid
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[23:12:00] <roch> LG g5
[23:12:50] <Nytram> You were holding it upside down ringo?
[23:13:03] <roch> I got i9300, want to buy new, can't decide..
[23:13:19] <binaryplease> Hi just installed manjaro, but cant get the desktop to start. I boots, everything shows [ OK ], then a black screen with blinking cursor. I can see the boot messages with alt+f1 and the other tty but no graphical login
[23:13:27] <binaryplease> How do I go about this?
[23:13:35] <Nytram> gfx
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[23:13:48] <roch> startx
[23:14:02] <binaryplease> also I cant login on the other consoles, as soon as I enter the password and press enter, Im back at the username prompt
[23:14:23] <roch> try alt+ctrl+F1..234
[23:14:32] <binaryplease> roch: i did that
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[23:14:35] <binaryplease> cant login
[23:14:40] <ringo> Nytram,  had downloading orginal firmware and put it on the sd card, rest by itsself
[23:14:42] <roch> U can
[23:15:05] <ringo> had messing with some rom last year and broke to load the phone proper
[23:15:25] <roch> xposed or bust
[23:15:35] <binaryplease> roch: I see "Last login..." after pressing enter for a fraction of a second then its back to the login prompt
[23:15:38] <Nytram> Hahah! Stooopid to mess with your 'working' phone.
[23:16:44] <roch> binaryplease,  gpu ?
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[23:17:17] <binaryplease> roch intel  HD Graphics 3000
[23:17:24] <binaryplease> its a lenovo b570
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[23:18:27] <roch> no sorry , I only got terrible with 4500
[23:18:41] <roch> so terrible..
[23:19:01] <binaryplease> roch: what?
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[23:22:38] <binaryplease> Something else I can try?
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[23:22:59] <stibbi> binaryplease, does that happen with the root user too?
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[23:23:41] <binaryplease> stibbi: Yes
[23:24:13] <binaryplease> If I enter wrong credentials I get the normal "Login incorrect" message
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[23:24:37] <stibbi> are there any other messages you can see before the login prompt comes up again?
[23:25:09] <roch> persist..:)
[23:25:32] <binaryplease> I just saw plymouthhd: could not start boot splash: No such file or directory
[23:25:41] <binaryplease> pressed esc during boot screen
[23:25:43] <stibbi> that's only for the boot animation
[23:25:58] <binaryplease> also kvm: disabled by bios
[23:26:17] <roch> update grub
[23:26:39] <binaryplease> roch but the system seems to have booted?
[23:26:42] <roch> You gopu is fantastic
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[23:26:52] <roch> it has potential
[23:27:03] <binaryplease> to do what?
[23:27:39] <roch> binaryplease, I wish U a happy nre year
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[23:27:50] <binaryplease> roch: U too!
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[23:28:07] <roch> U can also message Strit :)))
[23:28:20] <roch> TY, much love
[23:28:56] <binaryplease> stibbi: Strit any clues why I cant login and have no graphics?
[23:29:22] <stibbi> binaryplease, I'm currently lookiong for clues. just a second.
[23:29:41] <roch> well, there is wiki
[23:29:55] <roch> and also I am dobbering ;)
[23:30:11] <stibbi> binaryplease, what were the last things you have done to the system?
[23:30:12] <roch> we can do it , dont go
[23:30:23] <binaryplease> stibbi: Its a fresh install
[23:30:42] <stibbi> and there were no errors during the installation?
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[23:32:14] <roch> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Configure_Graphics_Cards
[23:32:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/iXuLaS] Configure Graphics Cards - Manjaro Linux
[23:32:38] <stibbi> roch, he can't even login in a tty
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[23:32:56] <stibbi> which has nothing to do with graphics settings
[23:32:58] <binaryplease> stibbi: No errors shown
[23:33:00] <roch> that is no acceptable
[23:33:33] <roch> I never had experieced
[23:34:00] <roch> no TTY, wtf
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[23:34:25] <stibbi> sounds to me like screwed up file system permissions or something like that
[23:34:31] <binaryplease> stibbi: roch there seem to be others (on arch) having the same problem
[23:34:32] <binaryplease> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=202801
[23:34:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/S8M04W] [SOLVED] TTY Endless Loop / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums
[23:34:35] <stibbi> but if it's a fresh install i doubt that
[23:34:53] <Nytram> Booting to init 3 and not loging in suggests his username and/or password are wrong.
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[23:35:14] <Nytram> Despite no error message
[23:35:57] <roch> Nytram, U are os smth.!
[23:36:00] <stibbi> Nytram, he gets a correct error message if he uses wrong credentials
[23:36:26] <stibbi> and he sees "Login successful.." for a second or so with the correct credentials
[23:36:35] <stibbi> but then it "resets" to the login prompt
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[23:38:38] <Nytram> loging in locally or via ssh?
[23:39:12] <binaryplease> Nytram: locally
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[23:40:01] <binaryplease> I can boot a live cd and manjaro-chroot into it though
[23:40:15] <roch> we are helping to hack a remote ;)
[23:40:24] <binaryplease> Maybe I try updating everything?
[23:41:46] <Nytram> Seriously! It's a fresh install. As long as you haven't done any work you need to keep (if so back it up) I'd re-install.
[23:42:18] <Nytram> I was assuming you had already done the update?
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[23:43:00] <stibbi> I would second that. I can't think of anything else as of an installation issue. Even if it wasn't visible. Perhaps you should recreate your installation media too.
[23:43:14] <Nytram> There's a systemd update that cures that problem
[23:43:36] <stibbi> binaryplease, how do you want to update if you're not able to login? :)
[23:43:46] <binaryplease> stibbi: from chroot?
[23:43:53] <Nytram> Good question. lol
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[23:44:29] <stibbi> binaryplease, too much of a hassle. but you could try that. I would recommend to install with a fresh installation media. ;-)
[23:44:44] <binaryplease> I just ran a live usb, chrooted into it. When I do "su myusername" I get a segmentation fault
[23:45:02] <binaryplease> that would explain why I'm not able to login I suppose
[23:45:24] <binaryplease> stibbi: Nytram same thing for su root
[23:45:42] <binaryplease> I will recreate the install media and reinstall
[23:46:10] <stibbi> I think that's the best you can do.
[23:47:58] <Nytram> I would have done that from the outset. There are things I find interesting, but standard, widely used install media issues are waaay down on the list.
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[23:49:31] <Nytram> I installed opensuse 5 times on one of my servers until it eventually worked. Same media, just a flakey drive. That drive is now history and the server is on day 63. :)
[23:50:12] <Nytram> Sorry, but I'm not using manjaro on my servers. ;)
[23:50:31] <Nytram> I'll be playing with them too much.
[23:50:40] <stibbi> That's why I always have multiple USB sticks around. :-)
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[23:54:37] <stibbi> Does anybody of you use the Vertex-Maia-Dark theme in XFCE on a high resolution screen? I'm having issues with the title bar which seems not to scale. The buttons are so super tiny that I have problems hitting them. :-)
[23:55:10] <binaryplease> Thanks for the help, I checked the sha1sum of the iso I downloaded, its fine. Now dd'ing it onto the usb drive. I'll report back after the second installation attempt
[23:55:26] <stibbi> binaryplease, you're welcome
[23:55:56] <nicklas_> stibbi: tried compiz+emerald?
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[23:56:03] <Nytram> Good luck binaryplease
[23:56:27] <binaryplease> Nytram: one thing, can I check the drive itself with the sha1sum?
[23:57:28] <nicklas_> stibbi: i use the theme, but with compiz+emerald, ive customed the theme a bit, wanna see?
[23:57:56] <stibbi> nicklas_, sure, I'm open for suggestions :-)
[23:58:02] <nicklas_> stibbi: btw, do you know how to solve the white text on white text fields in firefox?
[23:58:10] <stibbi> I'm running the deafult manjaro xfce installation
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[23:58:50] <nicklas_> http://i.imgur.com/0QiXeTM.png
[23:58:50] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/z6lKhj] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
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[23:59:40] <Nytram> binaryplease, no m8 just on a file. A checksum is calculated on a file not a drive
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