December 31, 2016 
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December 31, 2016 [00:01:05] <ringo> :)[00:01:33] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)[00:01:56] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:02:37] <inahd> i'm getting so tired of not being able to fix the problems on this laptop[00:03:10] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-129-210.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:03:26] <ringo> inahd, what koinda issue?[00:03:26] <inahd> i feel like i should just get something that will play better with linux[00:03:57] <ringo> dont know what you need is it hardware or software or combined[00:04:02] <inahd> well, internal/discreet graphics card causes glitch out waking from suspend[00:04:04] <ringo> which init system you use?[00:04:09] <inahd> xfce[00:04:52] <inahd> looked forever to solve that one, seems that xorg and catalyst are not matching up[00:05:54] <inahd> and then the internet fuxes up, which is like EEPROM, requiring kernel patch[00:06:20] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:06:56] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[00:07:00] <inahd> i spent so much time on this crap i could have earned money and bought a new laptop...[00:07:27] <inahd> if i had a skill to exploit in that fashion..[00:14:05] <Celgost> u want to do gaming on linux ?[00:14:09] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:14:56] <Celgost> oh no ok[00:14:59] <Celgost> im idiot[00:15:18] <Celgost> whats your laptop ?[00:16:43] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:17:14] <ringo> inahd, Manjaro has catalyst server[00:17:19] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[00:17:56] <inahd> i have an hp x360[00:18:11] <inahd> ringo, what do you mean a catalyst server?[00:18:52] <ringo> catalyst server = Xorg-server 1.17 , catalyst is basicly dead.. but keeping older xorg alive catalyst users can play again[00:22:39] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ezaggqmyrxdxvcsg> has quit IRC ()[00:22:59] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has joined #manjaro[00:22:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[00:23:22] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@186.59.33.70> has joined #manjaro[00:24:09] <manjaro-kde5_> jk[00:25:34] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~manjaro-k@83.223.233.12> has joined #manjaro[00:25:43] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@186.59.33.70> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:26:22] *** CupOfCoffee-PC <CupOfCoffee-PC!~Youri@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:28:54] <Celgost> http://imgur.com/a/SjcgE lol one[00:28:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EFlRSz] Grand Prix Richmond Crackstyle - Album on Imgur[00:29:52] <inahd> well that sounds very encouraging[00:30:06] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:30:16] <Celgost> lesson 1: go on irc xD[00:32:57] <inahd> ringo, is mhwd not installing the correct driver?[00:33:08] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-129-210.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ))[00:33:25] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-129-210.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:34:16] <ringo> inahd, pastebin mhwd -li ?[00:35:24] <inahd> http://pastebin.com/zRGU4Qsh[00:35:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/nn10lA] > Installed PCI configs: ------------------------------------------------------ - Pastebin.com[00:36:04] <inahd> oops i broke the text input windows on my browser (apparently), they do not show text.[00:36:58] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[00:37:16] <ringo> inahd, video-cayalyst is ok ? sudo mhwd-gpu --check[00:37:18] <ringo> ?[00:37:52] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~manjaro-k@83.223.233.12> has quit IRC (Quit: Mom decided I had to go to bed.)[00:37:58] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!~m4sk1n@user-94-254-129-210.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:38:16] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~Claymore@83.223.233.12> has joined #manjaro[00:38:38] <inahd> http://pastebin.com/2ScQtbhm[00:38:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bmurC5] Using default Default lib32 support: true xorg configuration symlink valid... - Pastebin.com[00:38:51] <inahd> when i paste into the bin, i see nothing.[00:39:20] <inahd> i think i read that xorg version i was using was too new[00:39:49] <inahd> causing the problem to wake from suspend[00:40:54] *** arthurfiggis <arthurfiggis!~arthurfig@unaffiliated/arthurfiggis> has joined #manjaro[00:42:06] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:43:58] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@109.79.186.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:44:08] *** arthurfiggis <arthurfiggis!~arthurfig@unaffiliated/arthurfiggis> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:45:01] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57990325.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:45:07] <ringo> inahd, normal you have only catalyst server : pacman -Qs catalyst , so no pacman -Qs xorg-server[00:45:29] <ringo> even if you do pacman -Qs xorg[00:45:33] <ringo> you dont see that[00:46:07] <ringo> just stop suspending i would personal say, but you got intel/ati setup?[00:46:36] *** anoki_ <anoki_!~anoki@CPE00fc8d486343-CM00fc8d486340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #manjaro[00:47:39] <inahd> intel.. its an amd radeon 8?[00:47:55] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[00:48:30] *** anoki <anoki!~anoki@2607:fea8:d1c0:644:8c4:f4c7:2b39:2c6e> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:48:32] <inahd> yes i have avoided suspend as much as possible but it sucks to keep the screen running 24/7[00:49:38] <inahd> wait ringo, what is this about pacmas -Qs?[00:50:00] <ringo> pacman -Qs is local search[00:50:03] <inahd> ah[00:51:40] <inahd> yeah lots of stuff locally. catalyst xorg server 117[00:52:46] *** thid <thid!~thid@93-181-168-49.internetia.net.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:53:11] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[00:53:19] <inahd> im noticing catalyst packages are all xf86, i am running 64bit..[00:53:20] *** johnvan_ <johnvan_!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:55:19] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:56:11] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:57:15] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has joined #manjaro[00:57:47] *** Ravenmire <Ravenmire!~stercor@24-181-195-221.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:57:52] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[00:58:02] <badmamajama> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm[00:59:27] <Celgost> multilib support ?[01:00:07] <inahd> i imagine[01:00:31] <inahd> more than imagine, i imagine[01:01:19] <NanoSector> inahd: xf86 = Xfree86 = X11 implementation[01:01:25] <NanoSector> nothing to do with your CPU architecture[01:02:00] <NanoSector> inahd: I highly recommend against using catalyst/fglrx though[01:02:22] * badmamajama is mind blown[01:03:00] <NanoSector> why do so many minds spontaneously combust when i speak[01:03:02] <NanoSector> weird[01:03:11] <badmamajama> ha :-p[01:06:42] <inahd> oh[01:06:47] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@188-23-175-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:07:09] <inahd> NanoSector, what other option do i have?[01:07:28] <NanoSector> inahd: what GPU do you have? and why do you want to use catalyst?[01:08:52] <ringo> got only suspend issue.. probably a bug , inahd i would say try to report on bugs.manjaro.org[01:08:56] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:10:17] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@85-127-196-254.dsl.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[01:10:34] <NanoSector> inahd: what suspend issue are you having?[01:12:06] <inahd> basically the screen goes crazy when it wakes up, cant switch tty or anything.[01:12:50] <NanoSector> and what gpu do you have?[01:12:54] <inahd> amd a8 is the gpu?[01:12:59] <NanoSector> no[01:13:06] <NanoSector> that's the CPU[01:13:09] <NanoSector> what's the model of the CPU?[01:13:20] <badmamajama> It has R7[01:13:31] <inahd> oh[01:13:33] <inahd> c. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics[01:13:42] <badmamajama> He says thats the CPU and ask what model of the CPU[01:13:52] * badmamajama looks at NanoSector and think he just lost it[01:14:14] <badmamajama> oO, that must be old amd a8 :-p[01:14:22] <inahd> hehe badmamajama don't give NanoSector a hard time.[01:14:43] <NanoSector> badmamajama: need specifics[01:14:51] <NanoSector> AMD A8 could be first gen, second gen, third gen...[01:15:01] <inahd> this laptop is not satisfactory, whatever it is[01:15:35] <inahd> i got it new for $300, and it has 10hr battery life.[01:15:48] <NanoSector> inahd: what does this command say: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"[01:16:09] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@85-127-196-254.dsl.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:16:25] <inahd> AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics[01:16:47] <NanoSector> badmamajama: reason i'm asking is because AMD A4/A6/A8/A10 series are APUs, that means CPUs with integrated graphics cards[01:17:04] <inahd> yes integrated and discreet also,[01:17:04] <NanoSector> badmamajama: but there's versions with different GPU architectures[01:17:17] <NanoSector> inahd: eh?[01:17:30] <inahd> has two graphics cards[01:17:44] <NanoSector> inahd: paste output of: lspci | grep -e 3D -e VGA[01:18:28] <inahd> weird[01:18:38] <badmamajama> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise (x64) • CPU: AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G (3.10GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (2.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 861.4 GiB / 938.7 GiB (77.3 GiB Free) • VGA: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics • Uptime: 16h 48m 20s[01:18:43] <badmamajama> NanoSector, ^^^[01:18:43] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[01:18:43] <inahd> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] (rev 05)[01:18:50] <NanoSector> and the other one?[01:18:55] <badmamajama> NanoSector, IM a big AMD FanBoi[01:18:58] <inahd> don't see it:[01:19:10] <NanoSector> inahd: what other one were you expecting?[01:19:30] <inahd> i could have sworn this thing had two graphics cards[01:19:39] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:41] <badmamajama> doubt it[01:20:27] <NanoSector> ok so you have the Beema architecture which is based on GCN 1.1 which means you're running on the radeon graphics driver and am stuck with that[01:20:58] <inahd> god im so out of touch[01:21:03] <ringo> isnt that ATI/ATI dual ?[01:21:10] <NanoSector> ringo: what is[01:21:22] <ringo> two amd gpu's ?[01:21:31] <NanoSector> yeah, but that's apparently not the case here[01:21:59] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[01:22:18] <ringo> its reeads [R4/R5][01:22:29] <NanoSector> ringo: R4 or R5 graphics[01:22:30] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:22:32] <NanoSector> not both[01:23:04] <ringo> ok[01:23:10] <ringo> i dont know also :)[01:23:30] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[01:23:43] <NanoSector> inahd: either way, try to capture a dmesg log when it hangs or something[01:25:03] *** DomasoFan <DomasoFan!~Miranda@194-208-201-238.tele.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:49] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@194-166-136-18.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:25:49] <ringo> what is a APU ?[01:25:52] <inahd> fair enough[01:26:00] <inahd> 6410?[01:26:05] <inahd> oh[01:26:15] <ringo> remember me always as aladin :)[01:27:34] <inahd> isn't apu from qwiki mart?[01:27:53] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:28:20] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@46.246.202.236.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:29:07] <NanoSector> APU stands for Accelerated Processing Unit, it's AMDs term for a CPU with an integrated GPU[01:30:13] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aclk233.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:30:55] * badmamajama buys only AMD[01:31:08] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:31:41] <tefter> 17.1.2017! AMD d-day[01:31:45] <NanoSector> Intel for CPUs and AMD for GPUs here, I guess[01:32:12] <inahd> the real question is, what computer to replace this one with?[01:32:23] * badmamajama can't wait to get his AMD FX 8320E w000t[01:32:33] <Celgost> superbia is a boy right ?[01:33:02] *** Spec-Chum <Spec-Chum!~Russ@90.255.189.199> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:33:03] <inahd> i am thinking zenbook ux360ca[01:33:28] <inahd> or thinkpad x260. or something.[01:33:46] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[01:34:06] <CountryfiedLinux> I got my refurbished laptop in the mail. Dell Latitude E6530[01:34:18] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@2601:86:0:5::e2e0> has joined #manjaro[01:35:07] <badmamajama> \o/[01:35:33] <NanoSector> inahd: why do you want to replace it[01:35:35] <NanoSector> ?[01:35:50] <inahd> i dunno. it frustrates me[01:35:54] <NanoSector> inahd: if it's jsut for this bug you can probably find someone in #radeon who is willing to help you diagnose it[01:36:21] <inahd> the mousepad and keyboard kinda suck imo[01:37:49] *** ClaymorePT <ClaymorePT!~Claymore@83.223.233.12> has quit IRC (Quit: Mom decided I had to go to bed.)[01:38:32] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:40:20] <ringo> i like desktops[01:41:16] <inahd> i like travelling[01:41:18] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:41:58] <ringo> i like traveling without computer :)[01:42:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Desktop? Laptop? I have both with my Dell Latitude :D[01:42:06] <ringo> and i got hungery lol https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vR0kvXO3TaKfidG/giphy.gif[01:42:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EXVG8m] (not a web page, content type: image/gif)[01:43:20] <inahd> ringo, i like indefinite travelling... eventually the computer calls.[01:43:39] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[01:43:49] <ringo> these days you have laptop/ ipads...[01:43:55] <ringo> hehh[01:44:03] <ringo> mobiles and ipads[01:44:55] <badmamajama> and farts[01:45:03] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[01:45:03] <inahd> i was thinking about a tablet[01:45:15] <inahd> i had one once though and it was total shit[01:45:42] <CountryfiedLinux> I want a tablet that automatically upgrades the OS that has Android.[01:46:01] <CountryfiedLinux> So iPad and Windows tablets are out. Probably Amazon too.[01:46:04] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:47:51] <inahd> there are mechanical keyboard covers for the surface pro. and ipads too[01:48:24] *** Botergos <Botergos!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:48:44] *** Botergos <Botergos!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has joined #manjaro[01:49:37] <CountryfiedLinux> iPads are too expensive for me, and the future of Windows in the mobile space is uncertain.[01:49:46] <NanoSector> CountryfiedLinux: automatically upgrades?[01:49:48] <NanoSector> how do you mean?[01:50:38] <CountryfiedLinux> NanoSector, I mean not your typical "You're stuck with the Android OS version it comes with until it dies". Not a lot of Android devices automatically upgrade the OS.[01:50:48] <CountryfiedLinux> AKA FragDroids.[01:50:58] <NanoSector> you probably want a Nexus then[01:51:16] <Celgost> « infinality-bundle-fonts.db » frombohoomil.com : The requested URL returned error: 404 ?????[01:51:51] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah probably. I really like the UI and performance of Windows phones and probably tablets too. It's just sad that 3rd party support ain't really much there yet.[01:51:58] <Celgost> doesnt seem to be down[01:51:59] <Celgost> wtf[01:52:18] <badmamajama> Celgost, isup.me :-P[01:52:21] <CountryfiedLinux> NanoSector, So you mean to say those $40 RCA tablets ain't future proof? :P[01:52:30] <Celgost> it is up[01:52:39] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@181-161-203-238.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[01:52:47] <CountryfiedLinux> brb[01:52:48] <badmamajama> oO, it's 404, nvm[01:52:51] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@181-161-203-238.baf.movistar.cl> has left #manjaro[01:53:24] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:53:49] <Celgost> oh fack[01:53:54] <Celgost> my fault[01:54:57] <Celgost> added a h to fonts in repo list[01:55:02] <Celgost> xD[01:55:08] <NanoSector> rip[01:56:04] *** anoki_ <anoki_!~anoki@CPE00fc8d486343-CM00fc8d486340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:00:05] <NanoSector> https://soundcloud.com/maxximizerecords/blasterjaxx-no-sleep-radio-edit-out-now[02:00:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/yJM88A] Blasterjaxx - No Sleep (Radio Edit) <OUT NOW> by Maxximize Records | Free Listening on SoundCloud[02:00:50] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[02:00:50] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:00:50] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[02:03:55] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[02:07:12] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@unaffiliated/dodgejcr> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[02:14:28] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[02:14:30] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:14:38] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has joined #manjaro[02:14:58] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[02:16:22] *** johnvan_ <johnvan_!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:25:24] <nuuuciano> the information in this page is a lot more useful than that specific title... https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Limit_the_size_of_.log_files_%26_the_journal should be titled something else?[02:25:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GwAKfq] Limit the size of .log files & the journal - Manjaro Linux[02:29:46] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:30:05] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[02:30:35] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B20835B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:37:57] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[02:38:28] <nuuuciano> when pamac run silently update checks... in ps aux is listed as pamac? or pacman?[02:39:30] <oceanmanor> I always recommend taking a more controlled approach to updates, are you running a server?[02:40:05] <nuuuciano> noup, just an user laptop[02:40:27] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:41:16] <oceanmanor> My opinion, but type out your updates yourself don't rely on auto-updates. It can present a bit of a security flaw and decrease stability in a few things, for instance any vm instances[02:41:41] <nuuuciano> I was asking it just in case I see the db.lock created, to know what to search on ps (pacman or pamac)...because pamac will not install all automagically, right? just inform about new updates being there[02:41:45] <oceanmanor> I just realized you might be talking about somethign completely different[02:41:50] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has joined #manjaro[02:41:52] <NanoSector> nuuuciano: pamac uses libalpm as its backend[02:41:58] <NanoSector> nuuuciano: it doesn't call pacman directly[02:42:03] <oceanmanor> Oh yea[02:42:20] <nuuuciano> NanoSector, so, in a ps output will show libalpm?[02:42:28] <NanoSector> nuuuciano: no, it will show as pamac[02:42:33] <oceanmanor> ps aux[02:42:33] <NanoSector> or pamac-notifier or something[02:42:39] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:42:41] <oceanmanor> ps aux | grep pamac[02:42:55] <oceanmanor> hmmm pamac-notifier sounds familiar[02:43:06] <NanoSector> iirc it's pamac-notifier doing the checking[02:43:17] <NanoSector> though i use kalu personally[02:43:22] <oceanmanor> kalu?[02:43:25] <NanoSector> !aur kalu[02:43:25] <Botergos> kalu - Upgrade notifier w/ AUR support, watched (AUR) packages, news -- version 4.1.0-1 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kalu[02:43:26] <oceanmanor> htop and glances[02:43:37] <oceanmanor> I'll check it out[02:43:43] <oceanmanor> !aur glances[02:43:43] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.[02:43:47] <oceanmanor> !aur htop[02:43:47] <Botergos> htop-git - Interactive text-mode process viewer -- version 833.f295a52-1 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/htop-git[02:44:06] <nuuuciano> NanoSector, why you prefer kalu?[02:44:31] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has joined #manjaro[02:44:53] <nuuuciano> *do you[02:45:19] *** songy2 <songy2!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has joined #manjaro[02:45:33] <NanoSector> nuuuciano: for one since it doesn't do partial updates[02:45:54] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:45:54] *** songy2 <songy2!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:46:05] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:46:15] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has joined #manjaro[02:46:16] <NanoSector> plus it shows me the arch linux news and has more options to configure it[02:47:29] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[02:47:45] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[02:50:07] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has joined #manjaro[02:50:28] *** notcraig <notcraig!~notcraig@2001:2002:51e9:b6d8:67b1:6a9e:3c80:8533> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:52:16] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:52:52] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:56:11] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has joined #manjaro[03:12:26] <oceanmanor> Kalu: unsupported pakage: Potentially dangerous !" (blinking) well that's interesting[03:12:46] *** johnvan_ <johnvan_!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[03:13:03] <sgo11> hi, I tried to change the icon for qlipper by modifying /usr/share/applications/qlipper.desktop and reboot. alt+f2 window shows qlipper icon correctly, but lxqt-panel still uses the old icon. I think it might be lxqt bug. I have no idea which .desktop/icon that lxqt-panel reads from. can anyone help? (running manjaro/archlinux and lxqt-panel 0.11.0-1)[03:13:13] <sgo11> Actually, I changed all qlipper.desktop files. ~/.local/share/applications/qlipper.desktop, ~/.config/autostart/qlipper.dsektop, /usr/share/applications/qlipper.desktop.[03:21:59] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:23:23] *** Ravenmire <Ravenmire!~stercor@24-181-195-221.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[03:25:10] <johnvan_> no dogeH@wkm00n[03:26:12] *** Celgost <Celgost!~Celgost@psz34-1-88-167-224-119.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:29:19] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[03:29:19] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[03:30:32] <badmamajama> Guess what[03:30:53] <badmamajama> This guy in Cali got charged for DUI[03:31:10] <badmamajama> The drugged they find his system:[03:31:18] <badmamajama> *Caffine*[03:31:34] <badmamajama> Alright folks, Caffine is a class 1 drug people[03:31:40] <badmamajama> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG35JjakE8E[03:31:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/oT0Sx3] Can You Get Arrested for Drinking Coffee and Driving? - YouTube[03:32:15] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:33:08] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:33:45] <inahd> you can get a dui fully sober, im pretty sure[03:33:54] <badmamajama> :)[03:34:05] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrfbojontgzjscyb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:36:23] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:36:36] <badmamajama> "28 cups of coffee might actually impair driving"[03:38:10] <badmamajama> "Agreed. In Wisconsin, which has one of, if not the most lacking of DUI laws in the US... we still have a law against "Detracted" Driving which usually tends to cover a lot of little things like fiddling with the radio,cell,infotainment systems or just talking to your passenger(s)... Basically, regardless if it's the Act of Drinking the Caffeinated beverage, while driving which takes your focus off the task of driving... OR you've[03:38:10] <badmamajama> consumed dangerous levels of it, causing your driving to become erratic... Seems like something you hand the person a ticket/warning for Distracted Driving once it's determined that it wasn't from Alcohol... and advise them to cutback on the Caffeine, Drive more carefully, and or see a Doctor..."[03:38:16] <badmamajama> _sigh_[03:38:52] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:39:25] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@192.241.217.231> has joined #manjaro[03:39:56] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[03:41:41] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[03:42:08] <brutus> yeah, like it's a great idea to have me on the road without coffee[03:47:59] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:48:28] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[03:51:24] *** johnvan 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<manjaro_cinnamon!~manjaro_c@137.97.236.20> has joined #manjaro[08:37:57] <manjaro_cinnamon> hii[08:39:57] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@201.145.136.120> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:42:46] *** manjaro_cinnamon <manjaro_cinnamon!~manjaro_c@137.97.236.20> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:46:41] *** mchasard <mchasard!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:51:04] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@46.246.250.64.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[08:59:10] <ringo> hi[08:59:52] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[09:02:06] <Vlado9A> hi[09:02:48] *** arulmagi <arulmagi!~manjaro-m@2405:205:810e:ed70:f0af:7fd4:3860:4ee7> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:03:44] <ringo> Vlado9A, good :)[09:05:19] <Vlado9A> good morning to you too ringo ;)[09:09:28] <ringo> toomorow new year :p[09:13:51] <Vlado9A> tomorrow[09:14:10] <ringo> lol[09:14:32] <ringo> your dog :) http://www.hypedojo.com/assets/images/attachments/f7a1be6359da70c9f17194751f7924ab.jpg[09:14:33] <Vlado9A> and I don't care about that much... I have plenty of years on my back so it's everything seen already :)[09:14:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/k7xWVB] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[09:14:41] <ringo> :)[09:15:34] <Vlado9A> I don't have a dog... I have a tiger :D[09:16:39] <Vlado9A> I know I'll have to get my cat into a safe place at midnight during fireworks outside...[09:17:23] <Vlado9A> as well as my neighbour's cat, a male one (mine is female), jumps onto my window and asks me to get in :)[09:18:37] <ringo> mine looks like : http://www.cat-breeds-encyclopedia.com/images/Tiger-cat-full.jpg[09:18:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ePtNlY] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[09:18:57] <ringo> tiger cats are adorable :)[09:19:26] <Vlado9A> I've had one like that, just like a tiger, but she died two years ago ...[09:20:10] <Vlado9A> now I have one 3color :) ... white, brown and black... and neighbour's male is white with grey socks :)[09:20:30] <Vlado9A> funny animals :)[09:21:41] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[09:23:35] <ringo> i like regulary a dog[09:23:42] <ringo> but died weeks agoo[09:23:51] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[09:23:57] <ringo> where i live cant have a dog so a cat is nice[09:25:27] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.98> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:27:02] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3EB1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:27:44] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:28:04] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has joined #manjaro[09:28:35] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.98> has joined #manjaro[09:31:42] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:37:35] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:38:42] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[09:38:55] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:42:15] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[09:42:22] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~malx@cpe-172-115-36-215.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[09:42:44] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~malx@cpe-172-115-36-215.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:44:29] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:44:41] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e0d3-0-c04-d3bd-a7d0-b05d.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[09:45:14] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@71-212-11-252.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:52:18] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@bsr-176-139-185-179.ft.ethernet.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[09:52:26] <NaoTix> Hi[09:54:11] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[09:57:28] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e0d3-0-c04-d3bd-a7d0-b05d.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:58:13] *** NaoTix is now known as Naologramme[10:12:17] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[10:13:13] *** Not_A_Skid <Not_A_Skid!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[10:15:11] <LissajousPattern> 0/[10:16:05] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:16:11] <badbodh> \0[10:17:36] <LissajousPattern> hello[10:19:17] *** nickermicker <nickermicker!59840bee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.132.11.238> has joined #manjaro[10:19:50] <nickermicker> hello, i have a problem: linux47-nvidia: installing nvidia-utils (1:375.26-2) breaks dependency 'nvidia-utils=1:370.28'[10:20:29] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[10:23:44] <LissajousPattern> nickermicker, did you remove the old kernel?[10:24:01] <nickermicker> LissajousPattern: nope, I didn't realize it was old[10:24:11] <nickermicker> thanks for the hint[10:24:25] <LissajousPattern> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/update-failed-nvidia-driver-dependency-kernel-4-5/8009/3[10:24:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wHRq67] Update failed - Nvidia driver dependency, Kernel 4.5 - Updating - Manjaro[10:24:36] <nickermicker> linux44 and 47 are installed[10:24:59] <LissajousPattern> it seems to be discussed here for the same issue just different kernels[10:26:18] <nickermicker> as I see linux44 is the latest longterm kernel[10:26:48] <LissajousPattern> i am not sure[10:27:33] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:27:35] <nickermicker> I don't wish to install a 'shortterm' kernel because this problem will occur soon then[10:27:46] <nickermicker> thank you for your help! :)[10:27:47] <LissajousPattern> probably so[10:27:49] <LissajousPattern> np[10:29:17] *** nickermicker <nickermicker!59840bee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.132.11.238> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[10:29:54] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[10:31:30] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:31:50] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:36:11] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[10:37:00] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[10:37:04] <magican> yo![10:37:14] <magican> <--- TSW a few years ago[10:37:24] <magican> or was it tsw_Sweden[10:37:27] <magican> hm[10:37:59] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3EB1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:41:02] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:42:13] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:44:22] <magican> ringo still here though :)[10:46:36] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:47:37] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@188-23-175-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[10:48:57] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@194-166-140-23.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[10:49:30] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.72.83> has joined #manjaro[10:49:34] *** respawn <respawn!~resp0wn@AToulouse-256-1-155-154.w109-215.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:50:57] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:51:50] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.98> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:55:55] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[10:56:53] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@46.246.250.64.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:57:25] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[10:58:35] <ringo> magican, hi[10:59:49] <ringo> hah magican tsw :p[11:02:41] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:07:01] <magican> Yepp, been a while.. :) I made a "funny" thing, roll back manjaro to pure Arch.. took a while to sort shit out :P[11:07:22] <magican> But now it's rolling nice, minus sound :D[11:08:22] <magican> i7 6700K @ 4.8 Ghz and GTX 1080 and Linux.. what can I say.. it flows ;P[11:09:31] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@nat-users-79-98-153-170.pnet.sferianet.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:09:31] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@nat-users-79-98-153-170.pnet.sferianet.cz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:10:00] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:10:01] <magican> BUT! That pulse/alsa crap... pavucontrol show when i pull/insert headphones (so it clearly recoqnize it), bars are moving, correct output device, blablabla.. but nope, silent. WTF![11:10:16] <magican> ideas? 4 hours of google and wiki and forum later, i'm clueless..[11:10:27] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[11:11:11] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:12:05] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: exit (xchat 2.4.5 или старше))[11:13:21] <ringo> why you need sound? :)[11:13:36] *** respawn <respawn!~resp0wn@AToulouse-256-1-155-154.w109-215.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:17:11] <ringo> removed the pulse already ?[11:17:39] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[11:19:45] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.72.83> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:20:17] <magican> listen to music is always nice.. but it's hard to find a desecnt troubleshooting guide. The ones I found is check (=my system is like that), and noooo not muted in alsamixer either.[11:21:00] <magican> tips and trix pls :) Must be some more easy stuff to check, and if thoose are check = will work. Uhm... the thing that anoys me is 1) it shows if headphone are connected or not and 2) bars are moving in pavucontrol.[11:21:12] <magican> ..../kickban sound go to hell[11:21:15] <magican> =)[11:22:13] <ringo> not removed any pulse map?[11:24:28] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@c-73-222-178-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:25:13] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@c-73-222-178-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:26:29] <magican> how to verify that? (but no, not on purpose anyway) .. also reinstalled pulse and alsa, so any misstakes "should" been corrected (missing files etc)[11:27:04] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[11:27:16] *** Leighton <Leighton!~leigh@c-73-222-178-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[11:28:43] *** Leighton <Leighton!~leigh@c-73-222-178-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has left #manjaro[11:28:50] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:30:44] *** Widea <Widea!~Widea@5354ABEA.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:30:51] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@ip98-167-36-147.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[11:33:08] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[11:33:59] *** manjaro-web|1209 <manjaro-web|1209!53bc58f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.188.88.249> has joined #manjaro[11:34:21] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@ip98-167-36-147.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:35:03] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:35:04] <manjaro-web|1209> kas nors cia kalba lietuviskai?[11:35:51] *** manjaro-web|1209 <manjaro-web|1209!53bc58f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.188.88.249> has left #manjaro[11:35:55] <ringo> nah fbi[11:38:27] <ringo> magican, i dont know just go to your hidden .config[11:38:31] <ringo> search for Pulse[11:38:34] <ringo> remove it[11:38:41] <ringo> pulseaudio -k[11:38:49] <ringo> then pulseaudio --start ?[11:39:07] <ringo> also peak in to alsmixer play with dynamic and loopback[11:40:45] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@194-166-140-23.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:41:12] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[11:46:31] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has joined #manjaro[11:47:34] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[11:48:39] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:50:13] *** Not_A_Skid <Not_A_Skid!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:50:18] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has joined #manjaro[11:52:27] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@137.97.39.236> has joined #manjaro[11:52:32] <manjaroCinnamon> hai[11:52:56] <magican> Nope... this is insane, was easier to get nvidia and X / opencl running[11:52:58] <magican> :O[11:53:22] <manjaroCinnamon> wat about amd radeon[11:53:25] <manjaroCinnamon> ??[11:54:05] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:54:32] <manjaroCinnamon> how to install AMD Readeon[11:54:34] <manjaroCinnamon> ??[11:54:58] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@137.97.39.236> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:55:45] *** Huczas- <Huczas-!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:55:49] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:58:35] <ringo> magican, we can switch hardware :)[11:58:42] <ringo> ^^[11:59:13] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p3E9EBF91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:01:10] <magican> ;P[12:01:42] <magican> BF1 @ ULtra is like playing quake 1 =)[12:03:00] <ringo> Xonotic :)[12:03:14] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, Xonotic is better. :P[12:03:27] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@137.97.39.236> has joined #manjaro[12:03:42] <manjaroCinnamon> hey[12:03:45] <magican> Back to issue, wtf do pulseaudio want..[12:03:52] <magican> intel with Realteak ALC1150[12:04:22] <manjaroCinnamon> wat is latest version of kernal??[12:04:35] <Strit_Laptop> Latest stable kernel is 4.9.[12:04:39] <magican> The fact that bars move when play, but still silence, THAT anoys me.. selecting some other device = fail.. which is in order.[12:04:44] <ringo> magican, tried? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Alternative_method[12:04:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6jbwT8] Advanced Linux Sound Architecture - ArchWiki[12:05:13] <manjaroCinnamon> can i upgraded to 4.9??[12:05:23] <manjaroCinnamon> is there any problem[12:05:26] <manjaroCinnamon> ??[12:05:31] <ringo> yeah , peak intoo manjaro settings manager[12:05:42] <Strit_Laptop> manjaroCinnamon: ofcourse you can. Just look in Manjaro Settings Manager -> Kernel.[12:05:43] <ringo> keep older kernel like 4.4 behind[12:05:57] <manjaroCinnamon> ok.. tnx[12:06:43] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:07:16] <manjaroCinnamon> when my system start it show.... cleaned.. then readeon init erro..how to solve it??[12:07:53] <magican> ringo: my manjaro became => Linux 4.8.13-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 9 07:24:34 CET 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux[12:07:55] <magican> ;P[12:08:28] <magican> Guess I CAN have a kernel issue.. almost only that thing left.[12:11:34] <ringo> :p[12:11:42] <ringo> Linux konoha 4.8.14-1-zen #1 ZEN[12:11:55] <ringo> Zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn[12:12:26] <badmamajama> alsamixer, alsatest?[12:12:28] <manjaroCinnamon> eng plzz[12:12:31] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:12:45] *** manjaro-web|7920 <manjaro-web|7920!5604debb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.4.222.187> has joined #manjaro[12:12:59] <ringo> alsactl restore ?[12:13:00] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:13:10] <badmamajama> >.>[12:13:24] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[12:13:36] <magican> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC1150" "HDA:10ec0900,10438691,00100001" "0x1043" "0x8691"[12:13:36] <manjaro-web|7920> Hi All. Anyone use the Deepin version on here at the moment ?[12:13:38] <magican> Hardware is initialized using a generic method[12:13:43] <magican> USE IT THEN.. stupid fck.. =)[12:14:02] <manjaroCinnamon> is cinnamon and deepin are same??[12:14:07] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:14:16] <magican> Openbox ftw.. and tint2.[12:14:18] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has joined #manjaro[12:14:23] <ringo> manjaroCinnamon, no[12:14:26] <manjaro-web|7920> no not the same[12:14:33] <manjaroCinnamon> wats the difference??[12:14:33] <ringo> deepin is a born from gnome and QT5[12:14:42] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[12:14:47] <ringo> uses gnome scheme but is all qt5[12:14:49] <manjaroCinnamon> ooh..[12:15:00] <manjaro-web|7920> it looks nice, but there is no Font DPI function, so still not there yet Ithink[12:15:14] <ringo> Xfce is all you need :)[12:15:17] <ringo> Stable :)[12:15:28] <manjaroCinnamon> depin is bad compare to cinnamon??[12:15:42] <manjaroCinnamon> i hav cinnamon its nic...[12:15:49] <manjaro-web|7920> Deepin is very nice, but a lot of flash but the basics are not there tbh[12:16:00] <manjaroCinnamon> tbh??[12:16:02] <magican> even xfce is a bit much.. but i now, i used kde and compiz and shit when i was kinda new.. now there is openbox and keyboard shortcuts to everything.[12:16:09] <magican> We all end up there sooner or later ;)[12:16:34] <manjaro-web|7920> as far as XFCE, well Iprefer Gnome now, with XFCE I get fed up using options to stop video tearing in Kodi and others, plus Ihate how basic the menus are[12:16:42] <manjaroCinnamon> how to solve readon init erro.. at start up??[12:16:44] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:17:03] <manjaroCinnamon> error*[12:17:05] <ringo> which card do you have?[12:17:21] <manjaroCinnamon> radon 8000 sries[12:17:30] <manjaroCinnamon> radeon*[12:18:54] <manjaroCinnamon> ....[12:19:08] <manjaro-web|7920> Im back to Wn 10, and keep trying different distros, but always the shame, file sharing/video tearing yada yada[12:19:24] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.174.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:19:35] <manjaro-web|7920> *same[12:20:13] <magican> thats why we dualboot =)[12:20:41] <manjaro-web|7920> haha yeah hear you, but since the share and video is mostly what Ido, there is no point[12:21:24] * ringo flips (: sʇooqןɐnp ǝʞıן ʇuop[12:21:46] <manjaro-web|7920> but miss the customization, but then get tripped up every time by the same issues, with different fixes[12:22:03] <manjaroCinnamon> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars [Radeon HD 8730M] (rev ff).....[12:22:10] <manjaroCinnamon> init error...[12:22:23] <ringo> mhwd -li which driver?[12:22:34] * ringo is playing on Clementine: [ 00:43 / 03:15 ] "Calvin Harris X Grant Genske - My Way (MÖÖM Remix)" by "Lost In Bangers" | Unknown | 0 Hz | 0 kbps[12:27:48] <manjaro-web|7920> manjaroCinnamon - https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107381[12:27:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/rEcS0r] Bug 107381 – radeon VCE init error (-110) -- AMD/Intel Mars Hybrid Graphics[12:28:05] <magican> ringo: According to archlinux it's a kernel issue..[12:28:12] <magican> no wonder it won't work with me =)[12:28:59] <manjaro-web|7920> https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=33126.0[12:29:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/CSiaBN] Manjaro errors in boot ! And a bit intel & amd question about PRIME[12:29:13] <manjaro-web|7920> looks like a hybrid/kernel issue as you say[12:30:36] *** manjaro-web|7920 <manjaro-web|7920!5604debb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.4.222.187> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:33:15] <ringo> manjaroCinnamon, inhad ?[12:33:24] <magican> RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGO[12:33:26] <ringo> are you inhad ?[12:33:28] <magican> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189411[12:33:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eWzMjk] Bug 189411 – [Motherboard: ASUS ROG Ranger VIII, Codec: Realtek ALC1150] No front panel audio output[12:33:36] <magican> boom, sound works.[12:33:42] <magican> No wonder i riped my hair grey[12:33:46] <magican> fucking bug in kernel :D[12:33:54] <NanoSector> > ASUS motherboard[12:33:56] <NanoSector> > bugs[12:33:56] * ringo damn we couldnt switch hardware :)[12:34:08] <ringo> my front sound dont work..[12:34:14] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[12:34:21] * ringo is playing on Clementine: [ 00:09 / 03:26 ] "DJ Snake ft. Justin Bieber - Let Me Love You (Koni Remix) (Emma Heesters Cover)" by "Koni" | Unknown | 0 Hz | 0 kbps[12:34:52] <magican> check the link ringo.. so many hours of trying to solve it, wasted.. :([12:34:54] <magican> ;P[12:35:06] <ringo> no time is wasted :)[12:35:15] <ringo> Linux-zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn[12:36:45] *** Huczas- <Huczas-!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:38:17] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:38:57] * ringo who wanna play xonotic[12:39:41] <magican> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=247021&action=diff[12:39:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/QInr3Q] Attachment #247021 for bug #189411[12:39:50] <magican> the fix for sound on asus mobos[12:41:09] *** _thelion1 <_thelion1!~Matthias@178-190-31-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[12:42:44] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@137.97.39.236> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:42:56] * badmamajama will be buying a ASUS Motherboard[12:43:53] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@188-23-175-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:44:34] <magican> save that link(s)[12:45:05] <ringo> why saving links ?[12:45:08] <ringo> :)[12:45:09] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:45:45] <ringo> just save it keep.google.com =)[12:50:18] <magican> blablabla ;P[12:52:06] *** Georgi <Georgi!~Georgi@ns323250.ip-37-187-3.eu> has joined #manjaro[12:52:27] <batch> magican it's fixed?[12:53:00] <magican> Yepp[12:53:05] <magican> hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 1 SET_GPIO_MASK 3[12:53:07] <magican> hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 1 SET_GPIO_DIRECTION 3[12:53:09] <magican> hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 1 SET_GPIO_DATA 3[12:53:18] <batch> cool![12:53:23] <magican> that start the sound.[12:53:25] <magican> stupid kernelbug[12:53:28] <ringo> magican, be sweet and watch http://ww1.gogoanime.io/kizumonogatari-ii-nekketsu-hen-episode-1[12:53:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IpDJJ0] (link was unresponsive: http://ww1.gogoanime.io/kizumonogatari-ii-nekketsu-hen-episode-1)[12:53:34] <ringo> :)[12:53:44] *** Celgost <Celgost!~Celgost@psz34-1-88-167-224-119.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:53:57] <magican> So plan A) compile kernel with patch B) a file with thoose commands at .autostart[12:54:04] *** Kunda_ <Kunda_!~Kunda_@ip24-170-206-156.ga.at.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[12:54:05] <Celgost> hey all[12:54:09] <badmamajama> I don't see that a kernel bug[12:54:19] <badmamajama> Just unsported device[12:54:27] <magican> Bug 189411 - [Motherboard: ASUS ROG Ranger VIII, Codec: Realtek ALC1150] No front panel audio output[12:54:49] <Celgost> hey badmajamama, hey magican :)[12:55:19] <ringo> magican, i have also no front sound :)[12:55:28] * ringo flips ɐɥɐɥɐɥ[12:55:34] <magican> Try thoose commands then?[12:55:36] <ringo> only back[12:55:58] <badmamajama> magican, You can create a bug report for a device that isn't yet supported and want it supported[12:56:02] <badmamajama> Happens all the time[12:56:07] <ringo> asus issue[12:56:21] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[12:56:25] <ringo> god a Old Asus board[12:56:29] <ringo> its also there[12:56:34] <negen> I see it as a ringo issue[12:56:38] <Celgost> i always fuck up your name badmamajama :([12:56:45] <Celgost> sorry[12:56:52] *** badmamajama is now known as bugzbunny[12:56:56] <bugzbunny> :-p[12:57:02] <Celgost> easier thanks :p[12:57:07] <Kunda_> so there was a massive update in the Community and Extra repos. One of the packages that was updated qt5-base is used by several programs that I have pre-installed. Do I need to recompile said programs manually ?[12:57:09] *** NineTook <NineTook!~manjaro-m@p5097-adsao01atuta2-acca.aichi.ocn.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[12:57:26] <ringo> if from repo not?[12:57:38] <Kunda_> they are from AUR[12:57:43] <magican> <-- Reverted manjaro to pure arch , a good tip if u have nothing to do and want a ton to do =)[12:57:59] <negen> I once recompiled ontop of ringo best time of my life[12:58:10] <magican> Wasn't that hard, but many small things to sort out. Symlinks pointing at wrong place etc.[12:58:18] <ringo> negen, say hi to tsw[12:58:37] <negen> tsw?[12:58:38] <magican> Oh yeah, tsw_sweden @ forum , or old forum..[12:59:29] <magican> magican is my usuall nickname, and/or tsw.. of some reason i don't really know.[12:59:34] <magican> =)[13:00:14] <ringo> negen vergot :p[13:00:38] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:00:45] <magican> is kartoffel dude still active?[13:02:54] <ringo> not really[13:03:10] <ringo> comes here and then , not much anymore[13:04:01] <magican> Hm, compile a kernel is overkill, i can live with launching a script after a reboot =)[13:04:06] <magican> it's not that painfull[13:04:17] <ringo> just using the back :)[13:07:12] <magican> hun[13:07:14] <magican> hum[13:07:29] <magican> i have NOPASSWD: on myself in sudoers, still ask for password..[13:07:31] <magican> wtf?[13:07:45] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has joined #manjaro[13:07:53] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:08:14] *** Spec-Chum <Spec-Chum!~Russ@90.255.189.199> has joined #manjaro[13:08:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Spec-Chum[13:10:07] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:11:47] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:12:40] *** _thelion1 <_thelion1!~Matthias@178-190-31-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[13:13:17] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[13:13:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[13:13:29] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has joined #manjaro[13:13:40] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[13:13:46] <ringo> magican, right group ?[13:13:53] <magican> So, tried my autostart script.,.. easier than patch kernel ;P[13:14:06] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kalwbahsckgbeygr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:14:11] <ringo> ionly use pamac without pasw[13:14:27] <magican> magican ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL[13:14:33] <magican> have always worked..[13:14:42] <magican> a few years ago anyway, maybe things changed..[13:14:57] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:15:29] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[13:16:14] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~Youri@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[13:18:47] <magican> So, almost done, a nice conky and finetune openbox, then it's done. Puh.. manjaroxfce -> arch as i want it. (pure arch ofc)[13:18:58] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ mhwd[13:19:01] <magican> bash: mhwd: command not found[13:20:33] <Strit_Laptop> You on manjaro?[13:20:56] <magican> Was.. took manjaroXFCE and reverted it back to pure Arch insted.[13:21:09] <Strit_Laptop> Fair enough. Can't see why you would though. :)[13:21:24] <magican> Had too see how hard it was :)[13:21:37] <magican> When just using it, dosen't matter at all.[13:22:06] <magican> Took a while though, was some symlinks here and there and other stuff that broke.[13:22:22] <Kunda_> so there was a massive update in the Community and Extra repos. One of the packages that was updated qt5-base is used by several programs that I have pre-installed. Do I need to recompile said programs manually ?[13:22:31] <magican> But overall, doable, from 1-10, hm.. 2? Conclusion: Not hard, just take a while to sort it out.[13:22:38] <Strit_Laptop> Kunda_: not usually.[13:22:46] <Strit_Laptop> They should also be updated.[13:22:51] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, if I installed from AUR ?[13:23:01] <Strit_Laptop> If you installed from AUR then yes.[13:23:08] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[13:23:10] <Kunda_> i mean.. programs that depend on Qt5 that I installed from AUR[13:23:35] <magican> Hm.. are there any spotify clone? Mine just crash when pressing login, if i remeber correct last time it was a qt problem.[13:23:47] <Strit_Laptop> Yes, those needs to be compiled and installed again.[13:23:58] *** Georgi <Georgi!~Georgi@ns323250.ip-37-187-3.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:24:14] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, how do I list programs that depend on Qt5 and that have been installed from AUR ?[13:24:54] <Strit_Laptop> Do you really have that many AUR programs installed that you don't know which are qt5 based?[13:25:34] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[13:25:35] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~Youri@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:26:40] <Kunda_> how do i list what programs i have installed via AUR in pacman ?[13:27:15] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:28:11] <magican> haha[13:28:14] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:28:17] <magican> linux is fun sometimes.[13:28:42] <magican> spotify crash on login.. but. $ spotify --username=<blabla> --password=<blabal> works fine[13:28:57] <Kunda_> I think i'm running Scribus, QGIS, calibre and perhaps a few more installed via AUR[13:29:03] <Strit_Laptop> Kunda_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[13:29:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[13:29:56] <Kunda_> Rosetta :)[13:30:01] <Kunda_> thanks Strit_Laptop[13:30:27] <Strit_Laptop> Kunda_: pacman -Qmq should list all AUR packages.[13:31:39] <Strit_Laptop> Or atleast the foreign packages.[13:32:00] <magican> add to bashrc[13:32:04] <magican> alias lsorphans='sudo pacman -Qdt'[13:32:07] <magican> alias rmorphans='sudo pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qtdq)'[13:32:13] <magican> Cleaning! :)[13:32:46] <Strit_Laptop> magican: that's orphans. :)[13:33:01] <magican> yepp, just speaking of pacman and packages and stuff[13:33:07] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[13:33:17] <Kunda_> i know it's not recommended but there are many packages that manjaro community and extra don't support. there are like 2 dozen packages there[13:33:33] <Strit_Laptop> I have like 3. :P[13:34:53] <Kunda_> Strit_Laptop, do you use Tor, skypeforlinux, jdownloader, darktable-git, scribus-svn ?[13:35:26] <Kunda_> do you manually install them ?[13:35:48] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[13:35:54] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:36:29] <Strit_Laptop> Kunda_: No I don't. Btw, to actually see only AUR packages installed you need to do this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=76218[13:36:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/blxs3f] [Solved] List AUR packages installed and only AUR packages. / AUR Issues, Discussion & PKGBUILD Requests / Arch Linux Forums[13:36:58] <magican> #UUID=e1d0f651-9f9d-4284-b50e-c134468cfdc0 /mnt/data ntfs defaults,noatime,users,rw 0 0[13:37:07] <magican> THAT won't work at boot (if uncomment)[13:37:07] <Strit_Laptop> Usually the packages from AUR that I really need, I put into my own repo, so my build server takes care of it.[13:37:09] <magican> why..?[13:37:14] <Kunda_> how do i pipe pacman -Qmq in to a pacman query that checks which of those have qt5 deps ?[13:37:42] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[13:38:56] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-155-193-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC ()[13:41:57] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:42:12] *** NineTook <NineTook!~manjaro-m@p5097-adsao01atuta2-acca.aichi.ocn.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:43:31] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:44:55] <Celgost> hey i want to make a community release, how can i achieve this PROPERLY, do u have some resources to help me ?[13:45:17] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3368.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has left #manjaro[13:46:42] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@46.246.191.174.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[13:49:16] <Strit_Laptop> Celgost: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Manjaro-tools[13:49:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/urs1HL] Manjaro-tools - Manjaro Linux[13:49:49] <Strit_Laptop> It's over 1½ years old though, and much of the tools have changed.[13:50:40] <Strit_Laptop> This is the most up-to-date one: https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools[13:50:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/amlmZc] GitHub - manjaro/manjaro-tools: Development and build tools for Manjaro Linux[13:51:49] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:53:19] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:53:47] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[13:57:18] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:59:52] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-190-92.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[14:01:18] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:04:23] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-190-92.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:06:57] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[14:07:47] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.84.157> has joined #manjaro[14:09:25] *** songy2 <songy2!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has joined #manjaro[14:10:25] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[14:11:22] *** sgo11 <sgo11!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:13:30] <ringo> Celgost, let esclapion be your teacher :)[14:14:02] <Celgost> Strit_Laptop, so many thanks :)[14:14:18] <Celgost> wanna learn from ste74 :p[14:14:48] <ringo> lol[14:14:51] <Celgost> im eating homemade ketchup that's awesome[14:15:10] <ringo> not by you? your woman? :)[14:15:10] <Celgost> handsome :][14:15:51] <ringo> Manjaro gnome is too much :)[14:16:12] * ringo flips ןoן ǝɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝǝɹƃɐ oʇ ʇuɐʍ ʎpoqou ʇnq[14:16:24] <Celgost> lol yes she's very good at making things :][14:16:43] <ringo> is she younger then me?[14:17:15] <ringo> does she have a sister? :p[14:17:52] <Celgost> idk how old are u, yo maybe 20 ? :p[14:18:06] <ringo> heh 36 :)[14:18:07] <Celgost> (am i nice ?)[14:18:25] <Celgost> she HAS actually[14:18:36] <Celgost> i recommend her[14:18:43] <ringo> :lol[14:19:16] <Celgost> she is 35, fitted for you ;)[14:19:57] <Celgost> i'm actually 51 and my wife 43[14:20:12] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:20:28] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:20:38] <Celgost> many people think i'm younger, i'm already a child in my head[14:20:49] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[14:21:11] <ringo> lol[14:21:43] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@216.218.221.204> has joined #manjaro[14:22:19] <Celgost> did i just took you off of your chair ? xD[14:22:32] <ringo> https://youtu.be/oeV8aNVmgGM[14:22:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6TTjlA] Coding in the Name of. SUSE guys (Rage again the machine) - YouTube[14:22:34] <ringo> :)[14:23:02] <ringo> cool Music :)[14:23:03] <magican> openbox or terminal, period![14:23:12] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@216.218.221.204> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:23:17] <magican> a nice conky can be OK also[14:24:17] *** songy2 <songy2!~songy4@178.62.161.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:24:25] *** Spec-Chum <Spec-Chum!~Russ@90.255.189.199> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:24:44] <ringo> conky suck :p old :)[14:25:00] <Celgost> cool one ringo[14:25:06] <Celgost> this seems oldschool[14:25:15] <ringo> listen to the text :)[14:25:29] <Celgost> haha ye[14:25:34] <magican> ringo: So what u suggest? Conky is what u do it ?[14:25:42] <magican> Applets? nooooo[14:26:07] *** Spec-Chum <Spec-Chum!~Russ@90.255.189.199> has joined #manjaro[14:26:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Spec-Chum[14:26:27] <magican> anyone got a sweet bashprompt to share?[14:26:31] *** systadmin <systadmin!~jed@203.87.156.111> has joined #manjaro[14:26:41] <ringo> there was a new one[14:26:49] *** oceanmanor <oceanmanor!~nathan@c-24-20-116-88.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[14:27:08] <magican> To refresh ya'lls memory[14:27:19] <magican> <-- = tsw <-- = https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=2991.0 <- that's was (is) me[14:27:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aoIxtW] Conky thread, show your work![14:27:58] <Celgost> "Developers are People too!" mail in my inbox from egrappler xD[14:28:01] <magican> 2013 :O[14:28:04] <magican> damn time flies[14:28:38] <Celgost> like "u developers are like bears, u not human"[14:28:45] <Celgost> "computer is your shellter"[14:29:11] <Celgost> nb : egrappler is resources for dev[14:29:26] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[14:32:54] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@103.16.27.75> has joined #manjaro[14:33:37] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as manjaro-kde5__ss[14:33:53] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:34:00] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.84.157> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:34:54] * roch digging conky configs.[14:34:58] <roch> o/[14:35:32] *** manjaro-kde5__ss is now known as somegoogle[14:37:21] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as harish2309[14:37:34] *** Kunda_ <Kunda_!~Kunda_@ip24-170-206-156.ga.at.cox.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:40:44] *** somegoogle <somegoogle!~manjaro-k@103.16.27.75> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:42:00] * ringo calls conky-manager[14:43:22] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@216.218.221.204> has joined #manjaro[14:43:44] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[14:48:23] <negen> i do not have access to the forums anymore since i made a naked ringo thread[14:48:40] <negen> i guess i am the only one who finds those pictures to be art[14:48:49] <ringo> :lol[14:49:02] <negen> proof magic is real[14:49:05] <ringo> i dont follow forum not anymore peak a bit, not much[14:49:26] <negen> the new forums hurt my eyes[14:49:36] <negen> i never seen anything so ugly in my life[14:49:40] <ringo> :lol[14:49:42] <ringo> https://youtu.be/oeV8aNVmgGM[14:49:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6TTjlA] Coding in the Name of. SUSE guys (Rage again the machine) - YouTube[14:50:02] <ringo> change it to the Rage against the forums :)[14:51:59] <negen> the guy on drums[14:52:00] <negen> lols[14:52:40] *** systadmin <systadmin!~jed@203.87.156.111> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:53:22] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[14:53:42] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@46.246.169.251.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[14:54:00] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@46.246.191.174.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:56:15] <ringo> :)[14:56:26] <ringo> looks like you :)[14:56:31] *** Huczas- <Huczas-!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[14:56:33] *** GeneL <GeneL!~gene@140-113-69-82.Dorm9.NCTU.edu.tw> has joined #manjaro[14:57:04] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:57:25] <GeneL> hey there, anyone here has any idea on how to get gcc3x for arch linux?[14:57:38] <ringo> for which reason.?[14:57:50] <GeneL> to compile an old version of HTK[14:57:56] <GeneL> HTK is a toolbox for speech[14:57:59] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:58:00] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:58:11] <GeneL> the latest GCC will have error compiling that[14:58:23] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[14:58:42] <ringo> but if you compile in v3 , does not work in 6?[14:59:39] <GeneL> i need gcc3 to compile that, google has results stating that gcc4 and above will fail compiling that[14:59:58] <GeneL> which i've tried using gcc6[15:00:07] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-ec49-0-d82d-9a11-fbad-5f96.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[15:00:31] <magican> Tip for black/red icons: iCrystal - Brown[15:00:40] <ringo> in aur is a cross compiler but ... :)[15:00:55] <GeneL> yeah, i founda cross compiler in aur[15:00:57] <GeneL> :([15:01:03] <GeneL> i need it for my x86 machine[15:02:01] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@216.218.221.204> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:02:28] <batch> magican what icons?[15:03:34] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@om126212165031.14.openmobile.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[15:04:25] <ringo> GeneL, gives code 2 ?[15:04:44] <GeneL> @ringo, what's code2?[15:05:03] <ringo> tar: Child returned status 2[15:05:47] <GeneL> @ringo, ohh 1 sec[15:05:48] <batch> someone know if there exist some post-it like function that i can pin some notes on my desktop wallpaper?[15:05:54] <roch> http://i.imgur.com/BGTxQml.png[15:05:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wYmmZk] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[15:06:02] <GeneL> @ringo, yeap code 2[15:06:47] <magican> batch: google it.. they look very good with a dark theme[15:07:31] <batch> oh hehe diamants magican[15:07:59] <ringo> GeneL, does not find the link ?[15:08:01] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cpe-71-79-148-147.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[15:08:07] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cpe-71-79-148-147.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:08:13] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)[15:08:18] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:08:42] <ringo> GeneL, because its propietary so you have to login too with name and pasw[15:08:45] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-125-234.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:09:36] <negen> you returned out child already ringo ?[15:09:40] <GeneL> @ringo how do i do that?[15:09:51] <ringo> GeneL, have you registred , on the site, and editted the PKGBUILD?[15:10:06] <GeneL> @ringo, nope, guess not[15:10:08] <ringo> you see a line , with wget and your usernamen and pasw[15:10:16] <ringo> then remove #[15:10:18] <GeneL> @ringo, are you refering to gcc3x?[15:10:21] <ringo> front of that[15:10:26] <ringo> GeneL, no[15:10:28] <negen> batch, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-little-useful-sticky-notes-app-for-linux/[15:10:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/P6KutV] 5 Little Useful Sticky Notes For Linux[15:10:35] <ringo> i refering thats a propietary[15:10:54] <ringo> You can download when you register[15:11:16] <ringo> a gcc3 compiled software wont work proper on gcc6 based system?[15:11:16] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:11:52] <GeneL> i actually have to compile that source using gcc3[15:11:56] <batch> negen thankyou, i saw it but i saw the xfce4-notes also exist, i'll try to figure if i can work with that[15:12:01] <GeneL> so i need gcc3 beforehand[15:12:13] <GeneL> so that i can get the executable working[15:12:14] <negen> tommy notes is nice[15:12:32] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has joined #manjaro[15:12:41] <negen> I think xfce notes is a fork of gnotes but i could be wrong[15:13:01] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@om126212165031.14.openmobile.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:13:09] <ringo> GeneL, huhm?[15:13:11] <magican> are there any "app" that just open a window and run, like in windows (almost). I knew one but forgot the name of it[15:13:16] <batch> oh k[15:13:21] <magican> (insted of open terminal and start something)[15:13:46] <GeneL> @ringo, I source code that requires gcc3 to compile, but i couldnt find any repository providing that[15:13:53] <GeneL> @ringo, I've source code*[15:13:55] <ringo> you have te sources?[15:14:00] <GeneL> yeah[15:14:08] <ringo> hoh which version?[15:14:09] <negen> I think most programs are like that magican[15:14:20] <ringo> 3.4.1 ?[15:14:25] <negen> you just need to make sure there is a short-cut or launcher[15:14:30] <GeneL> of HTK 3.2 (it's just an application)[15:14:33] <magican> negen: nope.. not like that.[15:14:40] <ringo> 3.4.1 is latest[15:14:40] <GeneL> i need to compile the source code of that[15:14:48] <GeneL> you mean gcc?[15:14:51] <ringo> no[15:14:53] <ringo> !aur htk[15:14:54] <Botergos> htk - A portable toolkit primarily used for speech recognition research -- version 3.4.1-3 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/htk[15:15:01] <GeneL> oh yeah, 3.4.1 is the latest[15:15:08] <GeneL> but i need the 3.2 version[15:15:16] <ringo> wat is main difference?[15:15:32] <GeneL> There's a difference with HVite[15:15:39] <GeneL> which is a sub application inside[15:16:03] <magican> Something else I forgot, how to make text/font in firefox look less stupid, they are not as smooth as other programs.[15:16:07] <GeneL> to go through what the difference are, it'll take lots of time[15:16:08] <magican> forgot that also=)[15:16:10] <ringo> gcc3 compiled software wont work proper on gcc6 system ? i think ?[15:16:30] <inahd> yay updates[15:16:33] <GeneL> really? how do i define a gcc6 system? I thought gcc is just a compiler?[15:17:00] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[15:17:21] <ringo> GeneL, if Arch a Gcc update let example to Gcc7 , lot Gcc software based must be rebuilded[15:17:47] <ringo> python2 wont work also not on python3 ??[15:17:59] <GeneL> @ringo, but previous software will still work, wont they?[15:18:10] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.81.43> has joined #manjaro[15:18:16] <ringo> can work but can be buggy aswell[15:18:52] <GeneL> @ringo, but after compiling it should be debugger independent wouldnt it?[15:19:16] *** Huczas- <Huczas-!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:19:17] <GeneL> @ringo, it'll only be architecture dependent[15:19:33] <negen> https://www.ostechnix.com/install-fonts-improve-font-rendering-quality-arch-linux/[15:19:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/40Jd6y] Install fonts and improve font rendering quality in Arch Linux[15:19:53] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[15:20:18] *** trylam <trylam!~manjaro-k@62.147.242.8> has joined #manjaro[15:20:20] <ringo> hmmm this answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18699828/how-to-compile-gcc-3-4-on-archlinux[15:20:20] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:20:21] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/dqXBuG] how to compile gcc 3.4 on archlinux? - Stack Overflow[15:21:05] <inahd> maybe 4.9 kernel will work now!?[15:23:47] <GeneL> @ringo, i'll have a look, thanks! :)[15:24:26] <ringo> mayby change the pkgbuild and check sources[15:24:33] <ringo> use one from gcc49 ?[15:25:03] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[15:25:55] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[15:32:29] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[15:33:05] * ringo windows fail: https://youtu.be/Dd5FwciiunE?t=330[15:33:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IQ4KKJ] We Love Russia 2016! Funniest russian videos & fails compilation Try Not To Laugh 5 - YouTube[15:33:07] <ringo> :)[15:33:37] *** archetech <archetech!~noota3@108-78-29-140.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[15:34:32] *** manjaro-web|3115 <manjaro-web|3115!50915f25@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.145.95.37> has joined #manjaro[15:35:23] <GeneL> Hmmm.. i'll try and see, too many bugs popping out[15:35:49] <manjaro-web|3115> What favorite Distro you guys have?[15:36:38] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:37:47] <ringo> regression GeneL ?[15:38:25] <GeneL> @ringo, yep :([15:38:34] <GeneL> @ringo, not going well[15:38:54] *** manjaro-web|3115 <manjaro-web|3115!50915f25@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.145.95.37> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:39:47] <ringo> negen, keep your cat out https://youtu.be/tGtHl61Ujik?t=466[15:39:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MyhrhJ] New Russian fails december 💩 fails Compilation from Russia 2016 funny video - YouTube[15:41:38] *** yans <yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has joined #manjaro[15:42:17] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:42:34] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:44:01] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[15:47:06] <batch> i will use conke wit som ${exec cat ~/bla.txt} negen see if that works :p[15:47:08] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:47:24] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[15:47:27] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:48:12] <Strit_Laptop> If the text document changes, better change that line to ${execi 30 etcetc)[15:48:30] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@78.187.193.194> has joined #manjaro[15:49:09] <batch> Strit_Laptop yeah[15:49:40] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@78.187.193.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:49:46] <batch> i like conky, configured it a year ago or something so should work out of the box[15:50:01] <batch> saddly i lost all the configs from back then that i made[15:51:26] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[15:52:25] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:53:33] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[15:54:35] <NanoSector> probably my favourite snippet of code in SMF: https://hastebin.com/raw/erewimokav[15:54:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Gf3SLV] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[15:55:23] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[15:57:02] *** user-pc <user-pc!~user-pc@120.188.81.43> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:02:11] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:02:20] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:02:46] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@178.130.45.48> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:02:47] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[16:03:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@178.130.45.48> has joined #manjaro[16:05:00] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[16:05:21] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:05:25] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[16:08:45] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:11:03] *** archetech <archetech!~noota3@108-78-29-140.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:14:24] *** GeneL <GeneL!~gene@140-113-69-82.Dorm9.NCTU.edu.tw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:15:07] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:15:07] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:15:45] *** Huczas <Huczas!~huczas@host-188-122-2-27.finemedia.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:16:14] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[16:18:12] <ringo> ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_Hi_everyone_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸[16:18:40] <ringo> negen, your beloved tobot : ¦̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱(̢ ̡͇̅└͇̅┘͇̅ (▤8כ−◦[16:19:26] <ringo> Thugs life ( ͡ °~͡° )[16:19:57] *** Jason4271 <Jason4271!68b4ea4f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.180.234.79> has joined #manjaro[16:20:33] <inahd> okay i captured dmesg on fail-to-suspend[16:21:02] <inahd> these seem relevant: [59254.369249] <3>[fglrx:firegl_lock_free] *ERROR* lock was not held by 6! (*lock=0x80000001)[16:21:02] <inahd> [59254.369256] <3>[fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* firegl_lock_free failed![16:22:26] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:22:40] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80.12.42.200> has joined #manjaro[16:22:53] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[16:24:59] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80.12.42.200> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:24:59] <ringo> inahd, mayby this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst#Video_fails_to_resume_from_suspend2ram[16:25:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NL8PvM] AMD Catalyst - ArchWiki[16:25:15] *** CupOfCoffee-CLI <CupOfCoffee-CLI!~youri@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[16:25:39] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-125-234.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[16:25:53] <roch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATizG7i8tcs would U buy ?[16:25:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ewInGr] The Truly Ergonomic Mechanical Keyboard – Technical Advances - YouTube[16:26:03] *** Mowee <Mowee!~Mowee@195-154-194-139.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:26:04] <ringo> edit /etc/default/grub add vga=0 to kernel line[16:26:13] <ringo> roch, you may buy mone :)[16:26:16] <ringo> mine :)[16:26:40] <ringo> roch, is pretty small[16:27:02] <roch> this model ?[16:27:17] <inahd> i want to make a mechanical 'plank'/ midi keyboard fusion[16:27:42] *** Jason4271 <Jason4271!68b4ea4f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.180.234.79> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:27:47] <ringo> roch, sell's talk[16:27:56] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[16:28:04] <ringo> my wive keyboard must push hard :) not mine[16:28:07] <ringo> same keyboard[16:28:09] <ringo> :p[16:28:19] <ringo> just keep your keyboard clean[16:28:20] <roch> I will talk to U in february, if U still got it ;)[16:28:41] <ringo> mm but is interesting[16:28:56] <ringo> but no keypad?[16:29:38] <roch> there is a numlock[16:30:01] <ringo> belgium keyboard need keypad ;à[16:30:20] <ringo> butr i dont type with 10 fingers :)[16:30:35] <inahd> i want to make fn keys (or maybe numpad) behave like drumpads[16:30:44] <peaveyman> Is it possible to build a binary from source with manjaro[16:30:50] <ringo> roch, review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13LUWeDqjZ0[16:30:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Maic7u] REVIEW: Truly Ergonomic Model 227 Mechanical Keyboard [2016] - YouTube[16:31:17] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:32:15] <inahd> ringo, do i need to reboot to make effect?[16:33:11] <ringo> also did sudo update-grub ?[16:33:19] <ringo> you need to reboot[16:34:13] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:34:45] <inahd> ohh update.[16:34:48] <ringo> even my keyboard have some dirt, my wive keyboard i need too push hard O_o[16:35:15] <roch> slap it ? :)[16:36:11] <ringo> just lot smoke dust :p[16:36:27] <ringo> its a pain[16:36:58] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:39:04] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:39:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:40:26] <ringo> roch, but got naturaly love to my keyboard , when lot people uses a keyboard, it suck at the end when you have some people that always push hard[16:41:02] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@om126212165031.14.openmobile.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[16:41:15] <ringo> but i prefer logitect[16:41:54] <roch> my will be exclusive ;-[16:42:01] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31799.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[16:42:07] <ringo> also i dont like bluetooth keyboards as well[16:42:41] <ringo> roch exclusive? https://www.bol.com/nl/p/ergoslider-ergoslider-plus-ergonomisch-toetsenbord/9200000056859839/?country=BE[16:42:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MWLt1t] bol.com | Ergoslider ErgoSlider Plus (black) Ergonomisch toetsenbord[16:43:25] <roch> BT kbd is a supplement, not main[16:45:35] <ringo> i like what logitect use , no driver needed :)[16:46:02] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[16:46:17] *** Bagga <Bagga!~karl@90-230-126-42-no116.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[16:46:52] <inahd> weird. just initiating xfce4-session-logout in the command line makes everything better[16:46:57] *** yans <yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has quit IRC (Quit: Alice Is Not In Wonderland)[16:47:38] *** Celgost <Celgost!~Celgost@psz34-1-88-167-224-119.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:47:56] <inahd> i dont' even have to logout..[16:48:09] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:48:22] <ringo> inahd, ?[16:48:29] <ringo> you did vga=0 ?[16:48:34] <ringo> is a kernel thing[16:48:41] <inahd> i did.[16:48:47] <inahd> i assume.[16:48:58] <ringo> reboot was needed[16:49:27] <roch> ringo, U use that ergo slider? with which kbd ?[16:49:34] <ringo> no :)[16:49:35] <inahd> yeah i did that.[16:49:38] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@om126212165031.14.openmobile.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:49:42] <ringo> inahd, and?[16:49:45] *** manjaro-web|5881 <manjaro-web|5881!2e05fe62@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.5.254.98> has joined #manjaro[16:49:48] <ringo> roch, no i dont use it[16:49:55] <ringo> i use logitech k120[16:49:59] <inahd> and the glitchy screen looks a bit different but still messed up[16:50:34] <ringo> roch just the joke was 506euro , expensive :)[16:51:06] <roch> I think I can just life without it, miserable life perhaps.. ;)[16:51:25] <ringo> i use this k120 is fine enough for me[16:51:40] <ringo> dont have issues of hardpushing[16:52:07] <ringo> if 4 different person use a keyboard, it might suck[16:52:28] <ringo> here in house 4 person pushes standard Hard on keyboard[16:52:45] <ringo> i use logitec m570 mouse :)[16:52:49] <manjaro-web|5881> Hi, I just booted up the 17.0 alpha1 xfce, it boots to a "going to sleep" screen if you don't hit ctrl+alt+F1 before it really goes to sleep. It happens with both the free and non-free boot options[16:53:49] <manjaro-web|5881> is there a way to avoid it before I install it?[16:54:40] <ringo> mmmm[16:54:50] <Strit_Laptop> Never heard of it. Alpha's are just for testing though. You should get the 16.10.3 image instead.[16:55:12] <Bagga> anyone got an idea on a fairly good quality laptop to buy?[16:55:26] <manjaro-web|5881> Strit_Laptop: it doesn't boot at all because it has an old kernel and I have a polaris GPU[16:55:38] <Strit_Laptop> Ah okay.[16:56:30] <ringo> Strit_Laptop, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-xfce-17-0-alpha-1/14394[16:56:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/07lyXr] Manjaro Xfce 17.0 (Alpha 1) - Announcements - Manjaro[16:57:03] <Strit_Laptop> I know the announcement ringo[16:57:58] <ringo> hah[16:59:52] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@77.66.145.213> has joined #manjaro[16:59:56] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as bazinga_[17:00:13] <roch> Bagga, http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/system76-oryx-pro-review-linux-in-a-laptop-has-never-been-better/[17:00:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0IpT5n] System76 Oryx Pro review: Linux in a laptop has never been better | Ars Technica[17:01:54] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[17:02:08] *** CupOfCoffee-CLI <CupOfCoffee-CLI!~youri@145.130.120.226> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[17:02:17] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF1A450049290C12F54C4987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:04:21] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-107-118.voxdsl.co.za> has joined #manjaro[17:04:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@169-1-176-159.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:05:18] *** bazinga_ <bazinga_!~manjaro-k@77.66.145.213> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:05:52] <Bagga> thank you roch, been looking on that one a bit.[17:09:23] *** llread <llread!~fff@117.177.75.82> has joined #manjaro[17:09:59] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has joined #manjaro[17:09:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[17:11:13] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~Youri@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[17:17:53] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:18:14] *** johnvan_pb <johnvan_pb!~androirc@75.98.19.132> has joined #manjaro[17:18:30] *** manjaro-web|5881 <manjaro-web|5881!2e05fe62@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.5.254.98> has left #manjaro[17:20:04] <ringo> roch, why they call is artechnica ?[17:20:18] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p5DC4D1B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:20:29] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[17:20:40] <Bagga> arschtechnica?[17:21:30] <ringo> sounds like Ars[17:21:33] <ringo> !w ars[17:21:33] <Botergos> Ars - Ars may refer to: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars[17:21:55] <ringo> a poop hole in dutch :)[17:22:21] <roch> ringo, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ars#Etymology[17:22:22] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/QGtvAc] ars - Wiktionary[17:22:23] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has joined #manjaro[17:22:59] *** nikos_prinio <nikos_prinio!~Nikos@2a01:e35:2e93:a290:30da:a7e:97e4:1c9e> has joined #manjaro[17:23:00] *** kafudzz <kafudzz!~apud@120.188.4.112> has joined #manjaro[17:24:02] *** kafudzz <kafudzz!~apud@120.188.4.112> has left #manjaro[17:24:41] <ringo> :)[17:25:02] *** johnvan_pb <johnvan_pb!~androirc@75.98.19.132> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:25:13] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[17:25:53] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ppp-94-67-153-3.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[17:25:54] *** manjaro-kde5-- is now known as aris2[17:26:17] *** llread <llread!~fff@117.177.75.82> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:26:27] *** johnvan_pb <johnvan_pb!~johnvan@75.98.19.132> has joined #manjaro[17:26:45] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p5082E2A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:27:37] <aris2> happy new year to everyone a simple question about vlc from someone who only browses the internet and watches movies. May I???[17:28:43] <roch> how should I prepare ?:)[17:28:49] <Bagga> anyone got experience with Intel HD Graphics 620 and gaming?[17:29:24] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:29:45] <roch> Bagga, I got experience with 450, terrible ;)[17:30:16] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[17:30:27] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[17:30:32] <Bagga> right, people seem to be saying you can play games with it but fuck do I know. Trying to figure out what laptop to get and from where ^^[17:30:36] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-ec49-0-d82d-9a11-fbad-5f96.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:31:20] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[17:31:23] <ringo> just take time :)[17:32:26] <Bagga> are Sys76-computers easily opened and fiddled with?[17:33:00] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:33:30] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[17:33:52] <roch> Bagga, U mean removing mobo, screen and every screw to just clean a blower is not accessible ?[17:33:56] <roch> no idea[17:36:05] <Bagga> roch: I mean I've broken computer chassis just to fix something internally where many of the screwholes break off completely so it's impossible to assemble again[17:36:37] <batch> i did same with my laptop lol[17:36:45] <batch> 1 screwhole broke of[17:36:49] <batch> plastic crap[17:38:02] <roch> U too stronk[17:40:56] <Bagga> rather they use plast[17:41:08] <Bagga> plastic mounted screwholes that easily break off[17:41:55] <roch> I would look on ifixit[17:42:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:42:52] <roch> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/System76+Gazelle+Professional+9+mSATA+SSD+Replacement/16075[17:42:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZelOoa] System76 Gazelle Professional 9 mSATA SSD Replacement - iFixit[17:42:55] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host54-27-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:43:14] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@255.red-79-150-71.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:43:20] <roch> blower is just under bottom cover, I expect this design is carried over,[17:43:53] *** trickster0 <trickster0!~trickster@ppp079166237119.access.hol.gr> has joined #manjaro[17:43:59] <Bagga> btw, is power supply a concern between US/EU in this case?[17:44:15] *** trickster0 <trickster0!~trickster@ppp079166237119.access.hol.gr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:45:52] *** jp91 <jp91!52eed85a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.238.216.90> has joined #manjaro[17:46:02] <aris2> i installed an extention in vlc in /usr/lib/vlc/lua/extensions/ i dont know how i managed to copy there that file i did. For months now the updated vlc doesnt work with this extention . I dowloaded the new one but cannot copy the new one and replace the old one[17:46:40] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:47:25] <roch> aris2, what extension, might replicate.[17:47:39] <magican> New conky made.. puh..[17:47:47] <aris2> vlsub for subttitles[17:47:56] *** jp91 <jp91!52eed85a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.238.216.90> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:48:36] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@vir91-h03-176-190-12-167.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[17:48:36] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@vir91-h03-176-190-12-167.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:48:36] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[17:49:41] <magican> http://imgur.com/a/L2sQP <-- v0.1 ;P[17:49:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/UAXodB] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[17:49:58] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 <manj-1509-Lxde1!~manjaro@host-149-154-239-23.dynamic.voo.be> has joined #manjaro[17:50:44] <roch> aris2, got vlc-git, got this extension by default.[17:51:45] <roch> aris2, http://i.imgur.com/N9iXMvQ.png[17:51:45] *** Snit <Snit!~Snit@96-19-113-189.cpe.cableone.net> has joined #manjaro[17:51:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/92Faso] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[17:52:11] *** Snit <Snit!~Snit@96-19-113-189.cpe.cableone.net> has left #manjaro[17:52:34] <aris2> roch if i delete from octopi vlc and install it from aur everything will be ok u think???[17:52:45] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[17:52:53] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-48-229.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[17:53:00] <roch> settings will prevail[17:53:14] <roch> if U put this extension manually , remove it[17:53:27] <roch> imo.[17:55:09] <aris2> i think i did but i also think i cant delete it from dolphin what should i do to delete a file from dolphin right click doesnt give option to delete[17:56:06] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:58:54] <aris2> the /usr/lib/vlc/lua/extensions/ probably is in the root i dont know how i managed to put it there any help to delete the folder???[18:02:11] <aris2> sudo rm -r /usr/lib/vlc/lua/extensions/ is it correct????[18:02:20] <Bagga> aris2: how did you install the plugin?[18:02:52] <aris2> months ago i dont know from a forum irc help i dont remember[18:03:24] <Bagga> what does 'sudo pacman -Qs vlc' give you?[18:04:22] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p3E9EBF91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:04:28] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agtl57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:05:20] <aris2> local/vlc 2.2.4-5[18:05:40] <aris2> A multi-platform MPEG, VCD/DVD, and DivX player[18:05:59] <Bagga> yeah no need to give all of it ;) but then it seems you did not use any package manager to install it[18:06:48] <Bagga> but uninstall vlc with whatever package manager frontend u are normally used to, and check if that folder is also removed[18:06:56] <ringo> best of 2017 everyone /)[18:07:11] <Bagga> already Ringo? :)[18:07:39] <aris2> Bagga thanx i ll report back[18:08:12] *** Cronanius <Cronanius!~harrison@dyndsl-095-033-103-148.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #manjaro[18:09:18] <aris2> 8 dependancies i also remove them( i want to install vlc git )???[18:09:24] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:10:09] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has joined #manjaro[18:10:24] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[18:10:27] <Cronanius> ahoy! I was wondering if anybody had a better solution for me - I use nmcli to control my network connection, and it seems to require libreadline version 6, but the current version (7) is used by other important things. I was just going to figure out where the library is stored and create a symlink named the old library to the new one[18:13:48] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@092-111-247-218.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[18:14:19] <aris2> Thanx guys the folder and the file are also gone u rock. Now for a novice like me vlc git or just vlc and try to install vlsub this way Linux (current user): ~/.local/share/vlc/lua/extensions/ hope its not as root[18:14:41] <roch> get git, it rocks[18:15:15] <aris2> roch thanx a lot thank you all for your time[18:15:56] <roch> it's free.. ;)[18:17:57] *** nikos_prinio <nikos_prinio!~Nikos@2a01:e35:2e93:a290:30da:a7e:97e4:1c9e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:18:21] <aris2> vlc-git 3.0.0.r10339.ge8dde09cac-1 (2016-12-16 16:30) ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) thats ok??? yes[18:19:33] <roch> ya[18:19:33] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:22:28] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-125-234.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:22:51] <roch> aris2, what GPU do you have ?[18:24:56] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@092-111-247-218.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:25:46] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has 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<xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:11:04] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:11:49] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@092-111-247-218.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:12:47] *** jonass <jonass!~jonass@c-98b0e255.07-32-756d651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #manjaro[19:13:51] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:16:19] <aris2> sorry guys me again i left the pc to install vlc and after 45 minutes with the family terminal is still running CXX components/epg/libqt_plugin_la-EPGProgram.moc.lo[19:16:44] <roch> Happy new year, off for a party!.[19:17:06] <roch> aris2, VLC is big, on my quad core it took good 20minutes[19:17:15] <NanoSector> why are you compiling vlc[19:17:50] <roch> vlcsub extension missing in old build.[19:18:06] <roch> vlc from repo IS old[19:18:20] <NanoSector> mkay[19:18:23] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:18:38] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:18:43] <aris2> sorry i dont know what compiling is i read it everywhere probably it s the first time i compile a program LOL[19:19:07] <NanoSector> building binaries out of source code, pretty much[19:19:13] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@vir91-h03-176-190-12-167.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:19:13] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@vir91-h03-176-190-12-167.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:19:13] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[19:20:57] <aris2> guys i admire your will and kindness to help us even some anoying dudes like me that want bleeding edge software and dont bother to learn more about software but just turn to u for help[19:22:51] <NanoSector> heh, it's why we're here[19:22:54] <aris2> A question. I installed a program using git from now on everytime it has an update i will compile it[19:23:18] * NanoSector is missing the question[19:23:20] <NanoSector> :P[19:23:49] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@178-190-31-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[19:26:19] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@93.102.59.29.rev.optimus.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:28:39] <aris2> all the other updates finish quickly now that i installed vlc from git the terminal takes for ever other updates in vlc will finish in octopi style or in a console waiting for ever[19:28:55] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@190.150.23.46> has joined #manjaro[19:29:03] <NanoSector> unless the author changes the package but that usually does no thappen[19:29:44] <aris2> but if i decide to update vlc will be a long process i guess[19:29:50] <NanoSector> yes[19:29:59] <NanoSector> !aw ccache @ aris2[19:29:59] <Botergos> aris2: Ccache - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ccache[19:30:11] <NanoSector> helps speed things up if you compile the same things multiple times[19:30:38] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt2 <Manj-1611-Lxqt2!~manjaro@124-170-239-175.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[19:30:40] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt2 <Manj-1611-Lxqt2!~manjaro@124-170-239-175.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:30:50] <NanoSector> too late now though[19:30:58] <LyriCa> helloo[19:31:02] <NanoSector> hi LyriCa[19:31:21] <LyriCa> how sit goingt ?[19:31:32] <NanoSector> i'm fine thanks, you?[19:31:50] <LyriCa> im great ~ exploring jack[19:32:14] <NanoSector> friend tried using it in the past[19:32:19] <NanoSector> could never get it working[19:32:28] <LyriCa> i love jack[19:33:32] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@om126212165031.14.openmobile.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[19:34:16] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~Youri@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:35:45] <aris2> everything is settled thanx everyone for help his time and his her understanding wish u the best for the next year. PS i hope 2017 i will be ready for linux and i hope this year to be the year of the desktop for linux that we all want[19:36:21] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[19:36:23] *** mjrotstlxde <mjrotstlxde!~mjro-tst-@host-149-154-239-23.dynamic.voo.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:37:57] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[19:38:05] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[19:38:37] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has joined #manjaro[19:39:04] *** Kunda_ <Kunda_!~Kunda_@wsip-70-164-195-18.ga.at.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[19:40:02] *** aris2 <aris2!~manjaro-k@ppp-94-67-153-3.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:40:22] <sponge> manjaro site: Still some mirrors are outdated, but we hope to contact their owners soon, so this can be fixed as well. | Does anyone know if those mirrors got updated? It seems that my octopi doesn't offer any updates since the 27/12. Is there a way to fix this?[19:44:48] <Strit_Laptop> Check http://repo.manjaro.org/ to see what got updated and not yet.[19:44:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/VDqfaU] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)[19:46:17] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:48:14] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31799.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:52:37] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:53:00] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[19:54:39] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:55:25] <sponge> My firs server of choice in the mirrorlist is: Server = http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch the second is Server = http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch. Both of them appear up-to-date on stable, but I still don't get updates[19:55:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qPTvIv] (link was unresponsive: http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch)[19:57:09] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@190.150.23.46> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:58:34] <sponge> Oh, I manually clicked sync-database and now it offers updates![19:59:42] *** Celmor <Celmor!~celmor@HSI-KBW-134-3-38-196.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[19:59:51] <Celmor> well, that's new https://puu.sh/t6Y1A/ab7f127a0c.png[19:59:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/53ylvX] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[20:00:06] <sponge> Wow! 750 MB of updates![20:00:26] <Strit_Laptop> sponge: you on KDE?[20:01:51] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:01:53] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:03:48] <sponge> Yes Strit_Laptop, why?[20:04:36] <Strit_Laptop> Lots of updates for kde, kde apps etc. :)[20:05:24] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:05:26] <sponge> Is it specific to this update or always updates for kde apps will be bigger than updates for xfce's apps?[20:06:20] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[20:06:24] <Strit_Laptop> There are more kde apps than there are xfce apps. :)[20:06:59] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[20:09:18] <Kunda_> off-topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOoCuDnmtyM[20:09:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/77S0zz] Eds Coral Castle Quarry and Flywheel, Engineering Mystery Solved - YouTube[20:09:31] <magican> ,[20:09:33] <magican> ,[20:09:37] <magican> ,3[20:09:40] <magican> ,,[20:09:42] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:09:51] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:10:34] <d42> ,.,.,.,..[20:12:01] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[20:12:24] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[20:12:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit[20:13:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[20:13:49] <sponge> Maybe I should uninstall some of the kde apps that I don't really use[20:14:56] <d42> why not[20:18:06] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@oki-180-131-225-40.jptransit.net> has joined #manjaro[20:21:15] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@75.104.69.16> has joined #manjaro[20:23:41] <sponge> Wow! There's a package to help downgrade packages! cool[20:24:35] *** tumbler <tumbler!97317d24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.49.125.36> has joined #manjaro[20:24:47] <tumbler> hi guys ... what is going on???[20:24:58] <Celmor> new years eve I guess[20:25:28] <tumbler> yhea ... the same here[20:25:32] <tumbler> :))[20:25:46] <tumbler> Celmor: how do you party tonight?[20:26:29] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:26:57] <Celmor> maybe joining in on a roman candle fight ;)[20:28:09] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[20:30:31] *** jeffer <jeffer!~jeff@2605:a000:1504:c08b::2000> has joined #manjaro[20:30:56] <sponge> Can the downgrade package downgrade itself?[20:31:53] <jeffer> hey guys im getting an error when trying to update my system. an issue with nvidia drivers of some sort? doesnt seem to be anything on google about it..[20:31:54] <jeffer> http://pastebin.com/tF8cyZMz[20:31:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Pxsgz6] sudo pacman -Syu [sudo] password for jeff: :: Synchronizing package databases - Pastebin.com[20:32:33] <jeffer> oh wait is this something to do with not having my kernal updated?\[20:33:08] <Strit_Laptop> jeffer: yep, kernel 46 has been EOL for some time now.[20:33:24] <Strit_Laptop> Either downgrade to 44 or update to 49. :)[20:34:07] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[20:34:13] <jeffer> cool thanks[20:34:46] <jeffer> forgot i ignored the notice to update a while back lol[20:36:37] <jeffer> im guessing its not the end of the world that i update the kernel even though i have a bunch of other updates to do?[20:36:50] <jeffer> i.e. The following packages are out of date, please update your system first:[20:37:23] <jeffer> and why cant pacman just update anyway and ignore the shit with conflicts?[20:37:41] <Strit_Laptop> It can, if you put --ignore infront of those conflicting packages.[20:38:04] <jeffer> in front of?[20:38:10] <jeffer> i just do pacman -Syu[20:38:18] <jeffer> i guess i should read man[20:38:27] <Strit_Laptop> pacman -Syu --ignore <pkgname>[20:38:34] <jeffer> word[20:39:23] <Strit_Laptop> PS you can't update kernel while running updates, since both of those uses pacman, and only one pacman process can run at a time.[20:39:35] <jeffer> well yeah[20:39:48] <jeffer> but i mean, i guess im curious why it recommends having everything else updated first[20:40:17] <Strit_Laptop> Because it wants to do kernel switches on an up to date system.[20:40:21] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[20:41:23] <jeffer> i get what it wants to do, im curious why. obviously it still allows you to update if you want but is it common for shit to break if your system isnt up to date before kernel switch?[20:41:44] <Strit_Laptop> Because then all the dependencies are up to date.[20:43:27] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@aeex213.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:47:10] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@acrb100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:49:53] <b0n> i really like 4.9. its quite stable for me..and ive been stuck on 4.4 for ages[20:52:32] <Celmor> my VM GPU passthrough setup is not quite stable on 4.9[20:52:45] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@193.92.56.164.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:53:19] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:56:33] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:56:52] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[20:59:51] *** tumbler <tumbler!97317d24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.49.125.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:07:23] *** planhths <planhths!~manjaro-k@athedsl-4404046.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[21:10:35] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:12:37] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:14:50] <bugzbunny> whistles[21:15:07] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[21:15:42] *** manjaro-web|6193 <manjaro-web|6193!bba271be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.187.162.113.190> has joined #manjaro[21:15:57] <manjaro-web|6193> Buenas tardes[21:16:13] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@87.116.180.235> has joined #manjaro[21:20:02] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@189.250.37.176> has joined #manjaro[21:23:37] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@189.250.37.176> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:24:25] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:25:20] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@c-68-81-229-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[21:28:27] *** NineTook <NineTook!~manjaro-m@p6104-adsao01atuta2-acca.aichi.ocn.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:27] *** Kunda_ <Kunda_!~Kunda_@wsip-70-164-195-18.ga.at.cox.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:31:31] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:31:54] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:32:04] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[21:33:51] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@178-190-31-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[21:38:09] *** Ventrilo <Ventrilo!~james@108.175.241.227> has joined #manjaro[21:38:53] <Ventrilo> Hello, could someone possibly help me with an audio issue i am having inside of KDE, i have set a device as my default audio device, But it keeps resorting to a different audio device as the default.[21:40:09] *** manjaro-web|6193 <manjaro-web|6193!bba271be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.187.162.113.190> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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Pic => http://imgur.com/a/caJ9g[22:05:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/V9C1uF] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[22:05:42] <magican> Let me now if u want it. Replace blue Arch with green MANJARO :)[22:06:18] <magican> I know, a bit much hd space, but have win10 and 4 tb, so I us 1tb for arch ;P[22:07:00] <mike-zal> who is familar with iso-snapshot utility on antix or linux mx16?[22:08:03] <ringo> i kill my ants today :)[22:08:36] <magican> ringo: http://imgur.com/a/caJ9g[22:08:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/V9C1uF] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[22:08:45] <magican> There ya go.. =)[22:08:53] <magican> Onlt 672gb left in /home -.-[22:09:00] <magican> overkill.co[22:09:02] <magican> overkill.com[22:11:13] *** GGMethos <GGMethos!methos@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fea8:426e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:13:53] <jeffer> okay so i updated everything i could except for nvidia-utils since it breaks dependency, then i used "mhwd-kernel -i linux49" to update kernel and said yes to ignore the out of date nvidia-utils and it failed with the same dependency error[22:14:07] <jeffer> to install kernel i guess i should i sayu[22:14:27] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@a89-183-95-98.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[22:15:13] <jeffer> maybe i can replace nvidia drivers with free drivers to bypass this issue?[22:15:38] <magican> jeffer: whats the issue?[22:15:47] <magican> <-- running GTX1080 everything is spoton[22:16:26] *** deepblue <deepblue!d5eb515c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.235.81.92> has joined #manjaro[22:16:43] <magican> And i even killed manjaro to make it pure arch, THAT fucks up deps etc.. :)[22:16:49] <magican> and still spoton ;)[22:16:50] *** deepblue is now known as Guest59239[22:17:14] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3EB1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:17:21] <Guest59239> Happy New Year Manjaro![22:17:23] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3EB1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:17:31] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ pacman -Q | grep nvidia[22:17:32] <magican> [sudo] password for magican:[22:17:34] <magican> linux44-nvidia 1:375.26-1[22:17:36] <magican> nvidia 375.26-1[22:17:38] <magican> nvidia-settings 375.26-1[22:17:40] <magican> nvidia-utils 375.26-2[22:17:42] <magican> opencl-nvidia 375.26-2[22:17:44] <magican> Close to flood there ;P[22:18:40] <nedstark> manjaro is in third on distrowatch for the last 30 days, ahead of ubuntu[22:18:47] <magican> Yey![22:19:23] <magican> Very nice! I love manjaro, i just wanted to try to revert to pure arch. However, pretty much thesame anyway.[22:19:35] <inahd> trying to play tyranny rpg, gives error[22:19:36] <inahd> displaymanager : xrandr version warning. 1.4[22:19:36] <inahd> displaymanager : trying .X11-unix[22:20:11] <inahd> been loving to watch manjaro climb the charts too[22:20:17] <nedstark> i just installed the cinnamon version of manjaro[22:20:51] <sponge> Is there a way to save backups of packages that 'downgrade' is offering?[22:20:53] <magican> Glad to hear! I spent a good 10 hours config my openbox, NOW it's fine.. :P Openbox ain't very plug'n'play[22:21:27] <magican> Success! My conky shows "8 new packages" woho[22:21:37] <nedstark> the only tricky part of cinnamon is trying to configure menu font size, has to be done through editing a .css[22:22:03] <nedstark> the fonts app doesn't adjust it[22:25:48] <magican> the most anoying thing is gtk2 and gtk3, please, have ONE Of them..[22:26:02] <magican> like a sexy theme, only gtk2, and gtk3 look like shit, or vice versa.[22:28:05] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@75.104.69.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:28:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@87.116.180.235> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:29:25] *** nedstark <nedstark!~nedstark@unaffiliated/nedstark> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:37:09] *** Guest59239 <Guest59239!d5eb515c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.235.81.92> has left #manjaro[22:40:11] <jeffer> @magican, ran out of time to troubleshoot, but ive been wondering if the 10 series have better driver support than previous generations on linux?[22:40:29] <jeffer> if so then maybe i have an excuse to upgrade from my 680[22:40:35] *** GGMethos <GGMethos!methos@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fea8:426e> has joined #manjaro[22:40:49] <jeffer> ALSO, why the fuck do you have a 1080 on linux? lol[22:40:58] <magican> Haha :P[22:41:09] <magican> Play _all_ battlefields on Win10 (dualboot)[22:41:19] <jeffer> ohh okay[22:41:30] <jeffer> i was gonna ask if youve ever fucked around with GPU passthrough?[22:41:32] <magican> Also a 6700K @ 4.8 Ghz.. that and 1080 in linux is overkill.com[22:42:15] <magican> But needed in BF1 @ ultra settings though[22:42:27] <jeffer> ive since went back to using two different computers but i had a windows virtual machine set up with my 680 dedicated to the VM so i had basically 100% native gaming performnace on a windows VM with manjaro host.[22:42:45] <jeffer> was pretty slick[22:43:41] <magican> Maybe worth a try :) Have some room, once again a stupid thing, computer have 4Tb, so I use 1Tb for linux.. think I can spare some mb for a VM ;P[22:44:44] <jeffer> lol[22:44:48] <jeffer> do you not have a SSD?[22:45:19] <jeffer> i had a spare ssd drive as well so my gaming VIRTUAL MACHINE had a dedicated 680 & 120gb ssd. gave it like 8gb ram and half the cores from my 4790K[22:45:37] <jeffer> my virtual machine performed better than most peoples main rig lolol[22:45:43] <magican> Yepp, 250Gb SSD for win10, then 1x1Tb and 1x3Tb (HDD).. new plan => one more ssd for linux, and dualboot between them insted.[22:45:51] <magican> linux on ssd must be insane? :D[22:46:05] <jeffer> you dont have linux on a ssd?[22:46:05] <magican> power on, swhosh, login.. wtf happend? :O[22:46:16] <jeffer> i guess if you only have oen[22:46:18] <jeffer> one[22:46:21] *** Ventrilo <Ventrilo!~james@108.175.241.227> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:46:23] <jeffer> it would go to windows[22:46:43] <magican> Nah, must get one more.. Win10 eat so much so it's sad.. or one bigger ssd.. one more, or one bigger.[22:47:44] <jeffer> yeah windows sucjh[22:47:46] <jeffer> sucks[22:48:18] <jeffer> i was gonna say you should get one of those new intel pcie drives i think the 480gb is reasonably priced.[22:48:36] <jeffer> "reasonably priced" being said very loosely, but you have a 1080 so i think you can afford it[22:49:20] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[22:50:25] <magican> Yepp, here in sweden prices should go down pretty soon. /me is an electrician, computerparts are paid with "taxfree" work;P[22:50:28] <magican> *spelling[22:57:39] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:59:12] *** vexare <vexare!~vexare@unaffiliated/vexare> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:03:36] *** Eizen_ <Eizen_!~Eizen@190.244.210.40> has joined #manjaro[23:03:40] *** Eizen_ <Eizen_!~Eizen@190.244.210.40> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:04:12] *** Eizen <Eizen!Eizen@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-seqtrmzcwhdzxpeq> has joined #manjaro[23:04:22] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@169-1-163-38.ip.afrihost.co.za> has joined #manjaro[23:04:22] *** Eizen <Eizen!Eizen@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-seqtrmzcwhdzxpeq> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[23:04:26] *** planhths <planhths!~manjaro-k@athedsl-4404046.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:05:03] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-107-118.voxdsl.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:05:04] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[23:05:29] *** planhths <planhths!~manjaro-k@ppp-2-87-61-95.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[23:12:21] * bugzbunny adds taxes on tax free work in sweeden[23:13:11] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@76.73.235.135> has joined #manjaro[23:14:31] <magican> skattemyndigheten ;P[23:14:31] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@76.73.235.135> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:17:58] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[23:18:51] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epnqirnnykmhfmjd> has joined #manjaro[23:18:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[23:19:55] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@201.186.88.155> has joined #manjaro[23:19:55] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@201.186.88.155> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:20:22] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:22:14] <batch> for all of you guys https://bpaste.net/show/5f3e08b39a86[23:22:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/suP5Xn] show at bpaste[23:22:23] <batch> happy newyear[23:23:11] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAA274.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:24:48] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[23:25:55] <mike-zal> happy and linuxy new year 2017 :D[23:28:01] <CupOfCoffee-IPAD> mike-zal: you 33 minutes early[23:29:29] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[23:30:46] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[23:33:44] *** eloaders_ <eloaders_!~eloaders@aeex213.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:34:13] <jeffer> dude like 8 hours early[23:36:40] <b0n> 9 hours early here[23:36:42] <b0n> lol[23:39:28] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:39:30] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-126-15-2.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:40:53] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[23:40:55] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agtl57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:41:44] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-126-15-2.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[23:50:35] *** vini <vini!~vini@cbl217-132-157-24.bb.netvision.net.il> has joined #manjaro[23:53:24] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:53:40] *** CupOfCoffee-IPAD <CupOfCoffee-IPAD!~CupofCoff@145.130.120.226> has joined #manjaro[23:57:11] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)