February 16, 2018 
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February 16, 2018 [01:20:46] <irker936> khindenburg ports:master * b8a06a30e4 / sysutils/gkrellm/Portfile sysutils/gkrellm/files/patch-master-commits.diff: gkrellm: add commits from 2.3.10 onward from git master branch https://git.io/vAcnE[01:34:00] <Ionic_> hm, finding out what packages build-depend on a specific one is surprisingly difficult[01:52:50] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has joined #macports[01:54:24] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:03:01] <toby> Ionic_: port list depends_build:portname[02:04:21] <Ionic_> ah, that does it nicely, thanks[02:04:58] <Ionic_> (I've found out what I wanted to know by grepping through the ports tree, but that's definitely more convenient)[02:10:42] *** beauby <beauby!~hoss@vol75-4-82-224-160-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #macports[02:15:11] *** beauby <beauby!~hoss@vol75-4-82-224-160-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[02:15:48] <toby> yeah... port list and port info have pretty extensive syntax[02:16:07] <toby> or rather, the "how to specify a set of ports" syntax is quite extensive[02:22:27] *** l2dy_ <l2dy_!~l2dy@unaffiliated/l2dy> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[02:30:47] *** l2dy_ <l2dy_!~l2dy@unaffiliated/l2dy> has joined #macports[02:31:44] <irker936> l2dy ports:master * f35c80647d / irc/irssi/Portfile: irssi: security update to 1.1.1 https://git.io/vAc4t[02:37:58] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has joined #macports[03:02:45] *** variable <variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable> has joined #macports[03:13:49] *** toby <toby!~toby@2620:149:f:1a65:d196:4e00:9bdf:2def> has quit IRC ()[03:24:20] *** variable <variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable> has quit IRC (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero)[04:06:27] *** toby <toby!~toby@2620:149:f:1a65:e0db:86aa:5e7e:3707> has joined #macports[04:10:16] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has quit IRC (Quit: jfcaron)[04:10:54] *** beauby 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<irker316!~irker@donkey.codingfarm.de> has joined #macports[12:33:44] <irker316> ryandesign ports:master * e302b20bdd / : glib2, glib2-devel: No longer add -I/opt/local/include to glib-2.0.pc https://git.io/vAcbU[12:53:40] <irker316> mps ports:master * 008175b152 / science/gmic/Portfile: gmic: update to version 2.2.0 https://git.io/vAcNN[13:02:05] <irker316> mps ports:master * f5d92d57ee / devel/gnutls/Portfile: gnutls: update to version 3.5.18 https://git.io/vAcAp[13:12:42] <irker316> ryandesign ports:master * 49a3ec66b5 / devel/glib2-devel/Portfile devel/glib2-devel/files/patch-configure-switch-for-gappinfo-impl-mp.diff devel/glib2-devel/files/patch-configure-switch-for-gappinfo-impl.diff devel/glib2-devel/files/patch-configure.diff devel/glib2-devel/files/patch-get-launchd-dbus-session-address.diff devel/glib2-devel/files/patch-glib-gmain.c.diff: glib2-devel: Update to 2.55.2 https://git.io/vAcpJ[13:15:21] <irker316> mps ports:master * 3125f7a69d / devel/libatomic_ops/Portfile: libatomic_ops: update to version 7.6.2 https://git.io/vAcps[13:26:19] *** Crosma <Crosma!~Crosma@unaffiliated/crosma> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[13:26:45] *** Crosma <Crosma!~Crosma@230.206.149.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #macports[13:26:45] *** Crosma <Crosma!~Crosma@230.206.149.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Changing host)[13:26:45] *** Crosma <Crosma!~Crosma@unaffiliated/crosma> has joined #macports[13:53:18] *** Ussat <Ussat!~Ussat@pdpc/supporter/active/ussat> has joined #macports[14:10:31] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@91.206.116.155> has quit IRC (Quit: negaduck)[14:34:17] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@213.87.138.217> has joined #macports[14:39:20] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@213.87.138.217> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:40:07] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@213.87.138.217> has joined #macports[14:41:59] *** Ussat <Ussat!~Ussat@pdpc/supporter/active/ussat> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:58:49] *** stibium <stibium!~stibium@big320.static.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:17:44] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has joined #macports[15:20:06] *** Ussat <Ussat!~Ussat@pdpc/supporter/active/ussat> has joined #macports[15:21:49] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@213.87.138.217> has quit IRC (Quit: negaduck)[15:31:57] *** Crosma <Crosma!~Crosma@unaffiliated/crosma> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:39:26] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has quit IRC (Quit: jfcaron)[15:45:53] <irker316> michaelld ports:master * 89ad08de23 / devel/boost/Portfile: boost: update to 1.66.0. https://git.io/vACYM[15:46:51] <irker316> michaelld ports:master * 38c08eb5d7 / : Rebuild ports with boost 1.66.0 https://git.io/vACYp[15:50:16] *** moala <moala!~moala@unaffiliated/moala> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:58:24] *** floppydh <floppydh!floppydh@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/floppydh> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)[16:18:28] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@91.206.116.155> has joined #macports[16:35:54] *** jfcaron <jfcaron!~jfcaron@unaffiliated/jfcaron> has joined #macports[16:48:53] <irker316> eborisch ports:master * 838850a64b / net/zabbix3/Portfile: Zabbix3: Update to 3.4.7 https://git.io/vACWe[16:57:59] <irker316> eborisch ports:master * 389322c21c / www/minio-mc/Portfile www/minio/Portfile: minio[-mc]: Update to latest. https://git.io/vACls[17:56:27] *** mschamsc_ <mschamsc_!~mschamsch@173-25-43-101.client.mchsi.com> has joined #macports[17:59:29] *** mschamschula <mschamschula!~mschamsch@173-25-43-101.client.mchsi.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:36:03] *** beauby <beauby!~hoss@199.201.66.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:36:52] *** bart- <bart-!~hideout@puredarwin/developer/bart> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:24:24] <irker316> jmr base:master * 6faf3f82 / src/port1.0/port.tcl src/port1.0/portstartupitem.tcl: Use notes for startupitem loading information https://git.io/vAC6l[19:35:55] *** toby <toby!~toby@2620:149:f:1a65:419a:e327:9cb7:955c> has joined #macports[19:38:51] *** negaduck <negaduck!~negaduck@91.206.116.155> has quit IRC (Quit: negaduck)[19:41:40] <khindenburg> jmr_mp: I completely forgot about https://github.com/macports/macports-base/pull/48 - should I just abandom it since you're working on the startup code?[19:46:12] <jmr_mp> khindenburg: yeah, closed[20:00:13] <jfcaron> I just discovered Quick Look plugins. MacPorts has three in the repo (Stephen, Markdown, and ColorCode). These sound awesome.[20:00:26] <jfcaron> Is it possible to add the other ones from this page? https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins[20:07:41] *** mojca <mojca!~Adium@cpe-31-15-149-7.dsl.telemach.net> has joined #macports[20:12:29] *** mojca <mojca!~Adium@cpe-31-15-149-7.dsl.telemach.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:13:28] <toby> bleh @ https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/1217[20:13:40] <toby> simple harmless patch turned into stupid debate[20:33:20] <toby> pmetzger hates libressl[20:33:27] <toby> 🤷♂️[20:38:51] <jfcaron> Drama![20:41:45] *** bart- <bart-!~hideout@x4e373312.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #macports[20:53:24] *** bart- <bart-!~hideout@x4e373312.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:53:24] *** bart- <bart-!~hideout@puredarwin/developer/bart> has joined #macports[21:45:46] * toby applies face to desk repeatedly[21:45:47] <toby> whyyyyy[21:47:21] <Ussat> toby, because...internet[21:49:11] <toby> true[21:49:47] <mf2k_mp> toby: Your Picard icon is perfect for that conversation[21:50:03] <toby> it's perfect for almost all situations[21:50:08] <mf2k_mp> hah[21:50:21] * Ussat hands toby a cold beer[21:50:29] <toby> the guy really seems to have something against libressl[21:50:38] <mf2k_mp> Yea, it’s pretty irrational[21:51:30] <toby> i think i'm showing remarkable restraint[21:51:40] <toby> but i'm on the verge of playing the "i work at apple" card[21:51:42] * toby grumbles[21:51:46] <jmr_mp> want me to just executive-merge it? :P[21:51:53] <toby> or the "i've been a macports contributor for like 15 years" card[21:52:10] <toby> I mean I can merge it too :p[21:52:25] <jmr_mp> but I can wear a portmgr hat while doing it :)[21:52:34] <mf2k_mp> sounds good to me[21:53:11] <toby> lol[21:53:15] <jmr_mp> it would be nice if the actual maintainer would say something[21:53:36] <toby> (i've only been a contributor since 2004)[21:53:40] <toby> so "only" 14 years :)[21:53:43] <jmr_mp> but meh, timeout[21:53:55] <toby> also i cannot believe it's been that long[21:55:19] <toby> I guess my other argument would be that... let's say there's a hypothetical operating system that still ships OpenSSL 0.9.8, but also includes a somewhat more recent version of libressl[21:55:32] <toby> and compiling things against libressl is good for research?[21:55:36] <Ussat> stop being logical[21:55:39] <Ussat> just. stop[21:55:57] <toby> yes, drinking is an alternative[21:56:18] <irker316> hans ports:master * 913892e864 / audio/opusfile/Portfile audio/opusfile/files/patch-libressl.diff: opusfile: patch libressl version confusion https://git.io/vACbE[21:56:19] <toby> i can't wait to see what happens now :D[21:56:51] * Ussat waits for the fecal matter to hit the air propulsion device[21:57:06] <jmr_mp> 🎉 indeed, lol[21:57:13] <mf2k_mp> lol[21:58:18] <toby> I'm too old for petty open source wars like that[21:58:27] <toby> we're a ports system, just make the fuckin ports work[21:58:46] <toby> openssl/libressl partisans should take the fight elsewhere[22:00:23] *** mf2k_mp <mf2k_mp!~mf2k_mp@132.163.47.113> has quit IRC (Quit: mf2k_mp)[22:02:06] <Ussat> I am just a user, but I am for anything (almost) that makes it easier for users[22:06:28] <cuavas> using a different versioning scheme in the same macro is annoying though[22:06:36] <cuavas> Apple clang vs MacPorts clang[22:06:56] <cuavas> Apple clang has a serious case of version inflation[22:08:18] <cuavas> if you look at GLM's glm/simd/platform.h it has to check for __apple_build_version__ before it can interpret __clang_major__ and __clang_minor__[22:12:20] <jmr_mp> it's pretty much the same mess as User-Agent strings, for much the same reasons[22:13:25] <cuavas> I don't see why Apple decided to start inflating their clang version numbers - it doesn't really help anyone[22:13:33] <cuavas> it just causes more porting headaches[22:16:14] <jmr_mp> bit of an odd choice for their internal project version to be the primary one advertised, I agree[22:18:04] <toby> well at least we just say 9 instead of 902? ;)[22:19:02] <toby> that said[22:19:10] <toby> __has_feature[22:19:14] <toby> don't check the friggin version :([22:19:27] <jmr_mp> well, that works for features, but not bugs[22:19:47] <toby> what[22:19:50] <toby> compilers never have bugs[22:19:57] <jmr_mp> __has_bug? :P[22:20:01] <toby> if the compiler does it, it is correct[22:21:00] <jmr_mp> there are so many correct ways of doing things it seems[22:33:45] *** toby <toby!~toby@2620:149:f:1a65:419a:e327:9cb7:955c> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:43:38] *** toby <toby!~toby@17.230.44.64> has joined #macports[22:48:14] *** toby <toby!~toby@17.230.44.64> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:57:56] *** toby <toby!~toby@17.115.222.191> has joined #macports[23:04:27] *** maggusFFM <maggusFFM!maggusFFM@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/maggusffm> has joined #macports[23:15:38] *** maggusFFM <maggusFFM!maggusFFM@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/maggusffm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[23:39:02] <jfcaron> I like the idea of backporting __has_bug flags into software. =p[23:47:29] <toby> yes, except for the part where that violates causality :p[23:51:49] <jfcaron> Really the developpers should add those flags to software as they introduce the bugs in the first place.[23:51:57] <jfcaron> It would make things so much easier.