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[00:13:32] <irker285> jmr base:master * 55c3b2c / src/port1.0/portutil.tcl: Use -ignorestderr with exec of cmp https://git.io/vD9YT
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[00:49:28] <Ionic> jmr_mp: if you want to make the port lint stuff part of 2.4, I guess you should cherry-pick the commits to release-2.4 as well?
[00:49:39] <jmr_mp> I am
[00:49:57] * Ionic nods
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[01:11:30] <irker285> raimue base:release-2.4 * 07825b9 / src/macports1.0/macports.tcl: mportselect: always delete existing symlinks https://git.io/vD9cd
[01:11:31] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * b2ec8c8 / src/port1.0/portlint.tcl: Handle really huge epochs and revisions in lint https://git.io/vD9cF
[01:11:32] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * e214c74 / src/port/port.tcl: Fix validity checks in ui_ask_singlechoice https://git.io/vD9cb
[01:11:34] <irker285> barry base:release-2.4 * b757252 / portmgr/dmg/postflight.in: Never run installing user's profile code as root https://git.io/vD9cN
[01:11:35] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * dedca69 / src/cregistry/sql.c src/pextlib1.0/Makefile.in src/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.c src/pextlib1.0/adv-flock.c src/pextlib1.0/mktemp.c src/pextlib1.0/realpath.c src/pextlib1.0/system.c: Fix build on Tiger https://git.io/vD9cA
[01:11:43] <irker285> raimue base:release-2.4 * 33e6865 / src/macports1.0/reclaim.tcl: reclaim: Remove redundant port list from output https://git.io/vD9cp
[01:11:44] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * dce55c6 / .travis.yml: Add Travis CI config https://git.io/vD9ch
[01:11:49] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 4c29521 / src/macports1.0/macports.tcl: Fix extraction of portdir archives https://git.io/vD9cj
[01:11:50] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * aa8e2f7 / src/port1.0/portutil.tcl: Check for file size sanity in _archive_available https://git.io/vD9Ce
[01:11:51] <irker285> ionic base:release-2.4 * 8dfd82d / doc/macports.conf.5.txt doc/macports.conf.in src/macports1.0/macports.tcl tests/test-macports.conf: add -l option to rsync_options. https://git.io/vD9Cv
[01:11:53] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 52fa086 / src/macports1.0/diagnose.tcl: Make port diagnose less verbose https://git.io/vD9Cf
[01:11:53] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * a5c8a42 / src/macports1.0/diagnose.tcl src/macports1.0/macports.tcl: Port diagnose PATH check improvements https://git.io/vD9CU
[01:11:54] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 3e1f15d / src/macports1.0/diagnose.tcl: Port diagnose file check fix https://git.io/vD9CT
[01:11:55] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 435dae3 / src/macports1.0/diagnose.tcl: Don't check file readability in port diagnose https://git.io/vD9Ck
[01:11:57] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 98d55a8 / src/port1.0/portlint.tcl: Fix 'port lint' for multi-valued maintainers https://git.io/vD9Ct
[01:11:58] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * ce493cb / src/port1.0/portutil.tcl: Use -ignorestderr with exec of cmp https://git.io/vD9Cq
[01:11:59] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 9e75ff0 / tests/test-macports.conf: Strip down macports.conf for tests https://git.io/vD9Cm
[01:12:00] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 34c16b3 / src/package1.0/Makefile.in src/package1.0/tests/library.tcl src/package1.0/tests/portmpkg.test: Fix portmpkg.test https://git.io/vD9CY
[01:12:01] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 3741e56 / : Don't fail due to stderr output in tests https://git.io/vD9CO
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[01:58:59] <irker285> jmr base:master * 0f34eb8 / ChangeLog: Update ChangeLog https://git.io/vD94O
[02:03:30] <irker285> jmr base:release-2.4 * 7718ad4 / ChangeLog: Update ChangeLog https://git.io/vD940
[02:08:21] <Ionic> uh... what...
[02:08:31] <Ionic> sqlite3 on 10.6 doesn't support the "load" command?
[02:09:32] <Ionic> well, great
[02:09:34] <jmr_mp> 3.3.7 and later
[02:09:59] <Ionic> it's 3.6.12
[02:10:40] <Ionic> I'll use the macports-provided sqlite3 binary and hope it doesn't break anything
[02:12:28] <Ionic> actually, that won't help
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[02:40:24] <irker285> mps ports:master * 1dc8f08 / devel/gnutls/Portfile: gnutls: update to version 3.5.9 https://git.io/vD9EZ
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[04:59:01] <Ionic> wow, I think py27-appdirs might be trying to index the whole root FS during install
[05:01:39] <Ionic> at least it's going strong  through /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/
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[05:59:19] * geekosaur makes note to be very careful about installing that, should it come up
[05:59:48] <geekosaur> (most such tools don't recognize /afs as a distinct filesystem, or think it can be handled like a local filesystem. :)
[06:05:10] <jmr_mp> the setup.py doesn't look like it's doing anything unusual
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[06:12:47] <Ionic> dunno, it feels like it's indexing at least the python directory, but maybe I'm off
[06:16:11] <Ionic> hmmm
[06:18:47] <Ionic> already ran 1.5 hours without finishing... let's stop that and reinstall base without my changes and try again
[06:21:42] <jmr_mp> it imports some modules of course
[06:23:21] <Ionic> *sigh* yeah, that finishes almost instantly
[06:28:06] <Ionic> so I essentially slowed it down by a factor of... a googol?
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[06:32:44] <Ionic> yeah... each file access taking about  one or two seconds is just not good enough (granted looking at it via dtrace, but still)
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[07:02:12] <Ionic> even using getattrlist() isn't considerably faster... uhoh
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[07:06:27] <Ionic> not good, the problem is sqlite3 taking considerably longer to return the result for LIKE instead of just an equality operation
[07:06:58] <Ionic> let's see if = with COLLATE NOCASE is faster...
[07:07:54] <Ionic> naturally not very surprising, since it can't use the index if used in this way *sigh*
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[07:16:59] <Ionic> = COLLATE NOCASE seems to be about as slow as LIKE
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[07:22:02] <Ionic> neverpanic: do you a think a new index with COLLATE NOCASE might help? it's too slow for any practical usage like that, if a simple python port that normally takes seconds to "build" instead takes hours
[07:46:27] <Ionic> but that would probably mean we have to increment (internal) the database version number as well...
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[09:30:12] <neverpanic> Ionic: Sure, worth a try
[09:30:20] <neverpanic> Ionic: EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN might be your friend
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[09:39:16] <Ionic> neverpanic: I'll backup my current DB and create a new index, then test with that tomorrow/to...night - if that speeds things up considerably it might be worth a DB revision update
[09:40:58] <Ionic> yeah.. EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN reports the index being used for non-COLLATE and non-LIKE queries only
[09:41:14] <Ionic> without it degrades to a operation on the table as-is
[09:41:51] <Ionic> err, with LIKE or COLLATE it degrades ...
[10:00:25] <neverpanic> yeah, I guess we'll need a new index then
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[10:18:43] <Ionic> I have to test performance first
[10:19:04] <Ionic> if it doesn't help, I'll have to scratch the whole idea and live with the bug
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[10:29:04] <Ionic> lol, how cute: https://dpaste.de/FcNK/raw
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[10:45:54] <Ionic> *sigh* someone set me up the xar bomb...
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[12:43:36] <irker971> mps ports:master * 6add351 / science/armadillo/Portfile: armadillo: update to version 7.800.0 https://git.io/vDHYi
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[13:10:43] <irker971> mps ports:master * 3d3ce53 / lang/guile/Portfile: guile: update to version 2.0.14 https://git.io/vDHsK
[13:19:19] <irker971> mps ports:master * cc3f8fd / perl/p5-io-socket-ssl/Portfile: p5.24-io-socket-ssl: update to version 2.047 https://git.io/vDHZk
[13:28:11] <irker971> mps ports:master * df3cc8d / perl/p5-libwww-perl/Portfile: p5.24-libwww-perl: update to version 6.19 https://git.io/vDHZp
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[14:24:13] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * c7a7730 / aqua/qt5/Portfile aqua/qt55/Portfile: qt5*: add openssl variant https://git.io/vDH8a
[14:24:18] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * 72f9ad9 / aqua/qt5/Portfile aqua/qt55/Portfile: qt5*: always respect configure.sdk_version value https://git.io/vDH8w
[14:24:19] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * fd4e329 / aqua/qt5/Portfile aqua/qt55/Portfile: qt5*: ensure C++-11 support for all supported OSs https://git.io/vDH8r
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[15:21:55] <JacksonIsaac> Is there a notification system in place where we get notified when a software is updated and our port is old ? like the one fedoraproject has
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[15:50:26] <neverpanic> No
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[16:08:52] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * 58640ae / aqua/qt5/files/patch-macx.conf.diff aqua/qt5/files/patch-qnetworkproxy_mac.cpp.diff aqua/qt55/files/patch-macx.conf.diff: qt5*: add missing patchfiles https://git.io/vDHKF
[16:11:42] <irker971> khindenburg ports:master * bab00f1 / python/py-xlsx2csv/Portfile python/py-xlsx2csv/files/patch-run-python-version.diff: py-xlsx2csv: new port https://git.io/vDH6O
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[17:27:23] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * e04b5cd / aqua/qt5/Portfile aqua/qt5/files/patch-qnetworkproxy_mac.cpp.diff: qt5: remove unnecessary patch https://git.io/vDH5i
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[18:14:16] <danchr> mf2k_mp: you seemed to wonder about an account of mine recently?
[18:14:37] <danchr> I think I had one back in the opendarwin days — don't know how I'd use it today
[18:14:38] <mf2k_mp> Yes!
[18:14:41] <mf2k_mp> Heh
[18:15:07] <mf2k_mp> I think all of the account a github based now.
[18:15:18] <mf2k_mp> And you simply request access to the Macports github group.
[18:15:29] <mf2k_mp> account->accounts
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[18:15:37] <mf2k_mp> a->are
[18:16:39] <danchr> do you manage the email server?
[18:17:51] <mf2k_mp> no I don't
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[18:19:11] <danchr> ah, okay
[18:19:16] <danchr> may I ask how this came about?
[18:19:43] <mf2k_mp> I was going through the list of Macports Developers and moving the old accounts to the “retired” section.
[18:20:03] <mf2k_mp> https://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers
[18:21:11] <mf2k_mp> I’m trying to make sure that ports have active maintainers, otherwise tickets get assigned to inactive people and get forgotten. This frustrates our users as you can imagine.
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[18:28:05] <danchr> yup, I've submitted bugs against ports that didn't get fixed
[18:28:18] <danchr> e.g. issue 22872
[18:28:38] <danchr> (or rather, I posted a fix and recieved no reply)
[18:29:58] <mf2k_mp> I can tell you from my perspective what part of the problem was with that ticket.
[18:30:06] <mf2k_mp> You did not also attach a Portfile patch.
[18:30:15] <mf2k_mp> Leaving someone to have to figure that part out.
[18:30:26] <mf2k_mp> Which makes it less likely to get committed.
[18:31:12] <mf2k_mp> Also, more importantly, is the issue I was talking about. The maintainer did not respond.
[18:31:30] <danchr> well, I was hoping for a bit of discussion or feedback — but given that the port is effectively dead upstream, and somewhat esoteric, I should probably just post a patch
[18:31:51] <mf2k_mp> It is the maintainer’s reponsibility to comment.
[18:32:42] <mf2k_mp> I will open a port abandoned ticket for his ports right now...
[18:36:11] <mf2k_mp> danchr: Please request access to the Macports team https://github.com/orgs/macports/people
[18:36:27] <mf2k_mp> Then you can get your commit access back.
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[18:37:43] <danchr> mf2k_mp: I don't see anything akin to “request” there?
[18:37:59] <mf2k_mp> I think the top middle button was the one.
[18:38:09] <mf2k_mp> “Request to join teams”
[18:38:30] <mf2k_mp> Oh right - no button… hold on… let me look for the email about it.
[18:39:07] <mf2k_mp> Try clicking on Teams
[18:39:20] <mf2k_mp> I think you can request to join “Developers” there.
[18:39:21] <danchr> mf2k_mp: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6706818/github-macports-people.png
[18:39:52] <mf2k_mp> Hmmm. no Teams tab
[18:39:57] <danchr> nope :)
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[18:40:32] <danchr> …and I'm definitely logged in
[18:40:58] <mf2k_mp> Yes, I can see that.
[18:44:00] <mf2k_mp> danchr: OK, this has the instructions https://lists.macports.org/pipermail/macports-users/2016-October/042102.html
[18:44:22] <mf2k_mp> Read the section called “Action Required by MacPorts Developers: Joining the GitHub Organization”
[18:55:41] <danchr> there, mail sent
[18:55:59] <danchr> (and a pull request for base — which I'd been sitting on for a few days — made)
[18:56:06] <mf2k_mp> Cool. Hopefully you will be approved soon.
[18:56:12] <mf2k_mp> Welcome back!
[18:56:21] <danchr> thanks :)
[19:05:54] <neverpanic> danchr: why were you asking for somebody who manages the mailserver?
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[19:07:32] <danchr> neverpanic: danchr at macports dot org bounces
[19:09:04] <danchr> which may or may not be intentional
[19:09:56] <neverpanic> danchr: It's commented in the alias table, but my history doesn't show why; it was commented when we copied the configuration from Apple's mailserver.
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[19:10:11] <neverpanic> danchr: We usually don't do this unless the owner requests that.
[19:10:26] <danchr> I may have done so — it's been a while ;)
[19:10:30] <neverpanic> danchr: want me to re-enable it?
[19:10:36] <danchr> please do
[19:10:59] <neverpanic> should work again
[19:11:09] <danchr> as an alias?
[19:11:14] <neverpanic> yes
[19:12:13] <danchr> heh, but the forwarding address bounces too
[19:12:53] <neverpanic> Oh, OK. That's not ideal :/
[19:13:25] <neverpanic> Do you have access to your trac account still?
[19:13:34] <danchr> I should have
[19:14:00] <danchr> although it uses github for login now
[19:14:07] <neverpanic> Can I ask you to open a ticket requesting to change your forward to a new address, use the server component, and assign to 'neverpanic'?
[19:14:15] <neverpanic> danchr: your tickets will be converted on first login
[19:14:54] <neverpanic> But I guess you would happen to have either your macports address or your old email address verified in your github account?
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[19:15:05] <danchr> nope
[19:15:14] <danchr> er, wait
[19:16:35] <danchr> yeah, I think it's a different account: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/10500
[19:18:43] <danchr> neverpanic: can I still try to login to the old account in trac?
[19:18:47] <neverpanic> Oh well. Mail to macports-infra at lists dot macports.org with cc: macports-mgr at lists dot macports.org with a request to change your email address.
[19:18:59] <neverpanic> No, the old login plugin is gone.
[19:19:16] <neverpanic> I'd rather not change an email address to a new value when asked on IRC ;-)
[19:19:48] <danchr> what!? I'm a totally honest and trustworthy person who would _never_ attempt any spearphishing ;)
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[19:20:48] <danchr> or: will do, thanks!
[19:21:01] <neverpanic> Sure, and why would it even matter, you'd just have commit access to code thousands of people run with root privs on their machine, so it's not that bad anyways ;-)
[19:21:46] * danchr shivers
[19:25:02] <irker971> mcalhoun ports:master * eb28946 / devel/cloog/Portfile: cloog: put warning in pre-test phase https://git.io/vDQtC
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[20:15:42] <danchr> interestingly, my contributions to opendarwin/darwinports actually predate the creation of my gmail account — and some of them even gmail itself…
[20:19:28] <neverpanic> ;-)
[20:38:26] <irker971> jmr base:release-2.4 * 88c62db / src/macports1.0/macports.tcl: Warn when using unsigned rsync for base or ports https://git.io/vDQWS
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[20:56:36] <danchr> neverpanic: could you perhaps take a quick look at <https://github.com/macports/macports-base/pull/20> and let me know what you think?
[20:58:49] <khindenburg> what % of all build failures are for 10.5_ppc?
[20:59:29] <danchr> people still run that?
[20:59:44] <mf2k_mp> heh
[21:08:45] <mariuss> I keep a G5 iMac around just to test...
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[22:03:42] <danchr> interesting; trace mode prevents synchronising sources located outside the MacPorts prefix
[22:09:43] <danchr> never mind…
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[22:22:39] <Ionic> people with old hardware are quite vocal...
[22:41:45] <neverpanic>  danchr I don't think trace mode applies to sync
[22:42:49] <neverpanic> Ionic: that's why I have the strict rule to not spend time on fixing on anything older than 3 releases old
[22:45:44] <Ionic> welll... given that I'm still on 10.9, I'm not one to be too much of a hard-ass on it - if  the quick is fix, why not do it
[22:46:02] <neverpanic> Well, then you don't get to complain :P
[22:46:16] <Ionic> danchr: uh, we've been talking about you
[22:46:27] <Ionic> but mf2k_mp isn't here right now
[22:46:45] <Ionic> ah, I see you've been talking to him
[22:49:41] <danchr> yeah, I happened to grep my logs for my name and noticed it :)
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[22:50:39] <danchr> oops
[22:51:33] <Ionic> heh
[22:52:05] <danchr> focus matters — not only in real life
[22:52:11] <neverpanic> danchr: wow, you're fast.
[22:53:59] <danchr> push notifications FTW :)
[22:57:16] <danchr> neverpanic: is it ok to push the changes?
[22:57:36] <neverpanic> I would say so, but you may want to wait for CI, unless you ran the tests locally?
[22:57:57] <Ionic> neverpanic: what about LIKE vs. = COLLATE NOCASE?
[22:58:01] <neverpanic> Also, we usually rebase rather than merge, just so you know.
[22:58:45] <neverpanic> Ionic: I don't care, but LIKE COLLATE NOCASE seems double to me?
[22:58:52] <neverpanic> Ionic: Did you try with a nocase index?
[22:58:53] <Ionic> You haven't really looked up my comments it seems :/
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[22:59:00] <Ionic> not yet, I just woke up...
[22:59:24] <neverpanic> Ionic: your sleep schedule is broken, just in case you didn't know already :-P
[22:59:47] <Ionic> anyway, my point being is that if we use LIKE, characters like % and _ in paths will do *very* strange things, unless we go out of our way and escape them
[23:00:06] <neverpanic> Oh, good point. So = COLLATE NOCASE it is?
[23:00:19] <Ionic> and it's certainly possible that LIKE won't use any index at all, even if it exists
[23:00:25] <Ionic> that's what I thought, yeah
[23:00:43] <neverpanic> I wonder whether case-sensitive = would be able to use a COLLATE NOCASE index
[23:00:44] <danchr> neverpanic: I think I read that somewhere, but thanks for the reminder
[23:00:54] <Ionic> it'll still leave us with the problem of only ASCII characters being supported ,but well...
[23:01:13] <Ionic> I don't think so, but it doesn't matter
[23:01:20] <Ionic> we already have a non-COLLATE NOCASE index
[23:01:29] <neverpanic> Ionic: I wouldn't worry at all about case-conversion of non-ASCII chars. Nobody's going to name their include file Müllabfuhr.h
[23:01:29] <Ionic> the new index will be supplimentary
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[23:02:44] <Ionic> regarding getattrlist... yeah, I can use that in pextlib, but it won't work on Linux
[23:02:46] <neverpanic> Also, we have very few ports with weird filenames anyway. The worst port we have in terms of filenames is probably deco-archive (and that needed a new base release to build correctly :-P)
[23:03:01] <danchr> I assume I should push my changes
[23:03:05] <danchr> ergh
[23:03:08] <danchr> to master?
[23:03:10] <Ionic> also, using asprintf is a very bad idea in cregistry, as cregistry has to work cross-platform, which is why I resorted to snprintf ;)
[23:03:14] <neverpanic> Ionic: tracelib isn't run on Linux, and on pretty much all Linux systems we can assume case-sensitive is the default
[23:03:25] <neverpanic> danchr: yes
[23:03:32] <danchr> thanks
[23:04:07] <Ionic> do we actually have a C library that is used by all platforms so that the check could go into there?
[23:04:16] <neverpanic> Ionic: pextlib
[23:04:18] <Ionic> and callable from TCL, of course...
[23:04:27] <Ionic> pextlib is non-OSX too?
[23:05:02] <jmr_mp> of course, portfiles can use it
[23:05:48] <neverpanic> Ionic: yes, just the tracelib part of it does nothing on non-mac systems
[23:06:48] <Ionic> I see, ok
[23:07:33] <Ionic> I'd still prefer to use getattrlist on OS X and BSDs and fallback to the lstat() checks on other platforms, including when getattrlist fails
[23:07:48] <Ionic> does that sound okay?
[23:08:30] <neverpanic> Yeah, sounds OK.
[23:08:42] <irker971> danchr base:master * 0e729c0 / doc/port-reclaim.1 doc/port-reclaim.1.txt src/macports1.0/reclaim.tcl: Allow 'port reclaim' to uninstall unrequested ports https://git.io/vDQSW
[23:08:43] <irker971> danchr base:master * b042c0e / doc/port.1 doc/port.1.txt src/port/port.tcl: Add 'rleaves' alias https://git.io/vDQSl
[23:08:44] <irker971> danchr base:master * eed6ffc / src/port/port.tcl: reclaim: run rev-upgrade at the end https://git.io/vDQS8
[23:08:46] <neverpanic> I wonder if on Linux statfs(2) has a flag or something
[23:09:05] <Ionic> would be good to get rid of the TCL check as well
[23:09:17] <Ionic> so that it just calls a C function
[23:09:26] <danchr> do people actually use macports on other platforms?
[23:09:29] <Ionic> I'll look it up
[23:09:40] <Ionic> danchr: our infrastructure is Linux-based :)
[23:09:48] <danchr> heh
[23:09:52] <neverpanic> danchr: it needs to run on Linux because that generates the portindex
[23:09:55] <Ionic> port must work on Linux in order to be able to create a portindex and other stuff
[23:10:07] <neverpanic> Other than that, most except a few crazy ones have given up on it
[23:10:09] <danchr> that makes sense
[23:10:31] <neverpanic> Originally, that was an Apple decision to have our infrastructure on Linux, though
[23:11:50] <irker971> ionic ports:master * a5241e9 / lang/llvm-3.9/Portfile lang/llvm-4.0/Portfile lang/llvm-devel/Portfile: lang/llvm-{3.0,4.0,devel}: use path-based dependency for xar. https://git.io/vDQ9v
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[23:14:24] <Ionic> neverpanic: one more thing... if I update the DB version, do I really have to copy the other one for 1.102 and recreate the whole DB, or is doing a INDEX CREATE operation + updating the version good enough?
[23:14:31] <Ionic> I'm not going to change any other semantics
[23:15:25] <neverpanic> You just have to run the INDEX CREATE query and adjust the original creation SQL + version number.
[23:15:41] <Ionic> ok
[23:15:45] <neverpanic> There's this do-while-loop that updates the database, and there's a comment at the top explaining what to do
[23:15:56] <Ionic> I know
[23:16:07] <Ionic> but I saw the other updates re-create the whole DB
[23:16:23] <Ionic> probably because the changes were so massive that it didn't work otherwise
[23:16:59] <neverpanic> One of them does it, I think, because some old SQLite version does not support ALTER TABLE
[23:17:17] <neverpanic> The part of the code that re-creates the table is only run on those old systems, though
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[23:19:59] <Ionic> nah, 1.202 is huge and is being executed everywhere
[23:20:20] <Ionic> ah right, sqlite doesn't support some ALTER TABLE constructs, okay
[23:20:32] <Ionic> in comparison, 1.201 was a small change
[23:20:45] <Ionic> okay, got it
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[23:21:25] <neverpanic> Well, it does, but it doesn't support ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN
[23:21:28] <neverpanic> you can only add columns
[23:21:48] <Ionic> yeah
[23:22:56] <danchr> is the new syntax for maintainer lines documented somewhere?
[23:23:27] <Ionic> {mailaddress @githubname} IIRC
[23:23:46] <Ionic> err, not mailaddress, but... more like the first part
[23:23:48] <neverpanic> danchr: there's a PR in the guide repo that I haven't finished
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[23:24:42] <Ionic> and domain:{firstaddresspart @githubname} IIRC
[23:25:00] <neverpanic> {handle @githubname}
[23:25:00] <Ionic> if you don't give it a domain, @macports.org is silently assumed
[23:25:14] <neverpanic> {domain.tld:localpart @githubname}
[23:25:15] <Ionic> handle is a better word, yeah
[23:25:17] <Ionic> ah
[23:25:47] <danchr> would be nice if it could imply the case where the two are equal
[23:26:03] <Ionic> yeah...
[23:26:11] <Ionic> but that's prone to errors
[23:26:21] <neverpanic> Not a bad idea, but what would be a good syntax for that? Also, that would require a base release, so it a rather long-term change.
[23:26:35] <Ionic> what if a submitter has no github account?
[23:26:50] <danchr> ah
[23:27:28] <neverpanic> Ionic: just domain.tld:localpart as it was before?
[23:27:34] <Ionic> for member handles, it's not a big deal though, as that's implied
[23:28:00] <Ionic> yeah
[23:28:24] <neverpanic> handle+@ or something, but it all looks weird to me
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[23:29:26] <Ionic> as far as my account concerned, handle and defaulting on @handle for github would just work fine
[23:29:38] <Ionic> not so much in your case
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[23:58:31] <jmr_mp> handle, callsign, "hacker alias"? :P
[23:59:10] <jmr_mp> if you don't have a github account it's pretty hard to be a submitter now
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