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[00:13:45] <geekosaur> two colons
[00:14:02] <geekosaur> site[:subdir[:file]]
[00:15:07] * geekosaur wishes the guide were annotated such that one could link to specific list items...
[00:20:37] <Ionic> Linux works fine on my box, via EFI
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[00:42:42] <mojca> geekosaur: I understand that for sourceforge:, but I don't understand the syntax for "plain" URLs
[00:44:12] <mojca> just http://example.com::tagone?
[00:44:13] <geekosaur> hm, no idea. the guide suggests it doesn't work for urls
[00:44:17] <mojca> with two colons?
[00:46:07] * geekosaur doesn't see any Portfiles that do that, in fact
[00:46:18] <geekosaur> so I suspect you can't do it with plain urls
[00:47:45] <geekosaur> oh, you can, one colon, and I was wrong about filename
[00:47:59] <geekosaur> it is a tag, and you need to label each distfile with that tag as well
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[00:48:56] <geekosaur> distfiles foo.tar.bz2:tag1 bar.tar.gz:tag2 // master_files http://foo.com/foo:tag1 http://bar.com/foobar:tag2
[00:49:16] <geekosaur> er master_sites
[00:49:44] <geekosaur> see the qt3 portfile as an example
[00:49:50] <geekosaur> (as the first one I saw that did it)
[00:52:13] <Ionic> yeah, that's just a tag
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[01:27:12] <irker330> mojca ports:master * d775393 / python/py-minecraft-overviewer/Portfile: py-minecraft-overviewer: new port https://git.io/vDVEk
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[01:28:29] <mojca> geekosaur: thanks, submitted
[01:28:35] <mojca> I mean committed
[01:29:52] <mojca> I only realized at the end that I needed a label rather than full url for the additional file
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[01:46:21] <irker330> mps ports:master * e5e0485 / archivers/dar/Portfile: dar: update to version 2.5.9 https://git.io/vDVu1
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[01:58:46] <irker330> mps ports:master * bcd7d59 / textproc/highlight/Portfile: highlight: update to version 3.34 https://git.io/vDVzg
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[02:56:22] <l2dy_> Can I force port(1) to not use distfile mirrors?
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[03:17:25] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * bcd336a / mail/neomutt/Portfile: neomutt: update to 20170206 https://git.io/vDVwI
[03:20:19] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * 5dcccd8 / archivers/zstd/Portfile: zstd: update to 1.1.3 https://git.io/vDVw3
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[04:12:02] <Ionic> short of blacklisting all mirrors? I don't think so...
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[04:57:18] <Ionic> nice... looks like clang-3.4 generates DWARF information that the older gdb on 10.6 can't use...
[05:01:22] <Ionic> so I can either install gcc 5 and force that or screw off
[05:09:58] <pjb> Well, if you have a way to make gdb work on macOS Sierra…
[05:14:31] <Ionic> lldb should work, right?
[05:17:52] <pjb> But it's incompatible with this human.
[05:18:04] <pjb> Next time, keep the user interface!
[05:18:11] <pjb> Interfaces exist for a reason.
[05:21:29] <Ionic> it's a completely different program
[05:21:52] <pjb> Doing exactly the same.
[05:22:13] <pjb> They interfaced with the same OS, then why didn't they interface with the same users?
[05:23:58] <Ionic> uhm, they are free to implement their program the way they want to, I guess? the LLVM guys did actually create a few compatibility aliases along the way
[05:24:48] <Ionic> hey, compiling it with gcc5 didn't work either, nice. looks like the symbols *do* get stripped automatically when the object files are linked, for whatever stupid reasons
[05:25:00] <Ionic> luckily, there's port's -k option...
[05:26:16] <geekosaur> pjb, a significant part of the reason is that gdb did exactly that
[05:26:30] <geekosaur> it maintained compatibility with a 1980s era debugger called dbx
[05:26:57] <geekosaur> then put everything developed since then (like thread support) on top in an increasingly insane command structure
[05:28:14] <geekosaur> which you think is "normal" because you ended up learning it the hard way, but gdb's UI is spaghetti with tar
[05:29:13] <Ionic> geekosaur: do you think a debugger can actually have a "meaningful UI"?
[05:29:30] <geekosaur> it can at least have one where every command isn't its own special case
[05:29:48] <geekosaur> which is what dbx had and gdb has far, far worse
[05:30:00] <Ionic> hm? special case like how?
[05:30:38] <Ionic> lldb seems to be working with more option parameters than gdb's rigid interface
[05:32:23] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * dfe8d71 / net/pure-ftpd/Portfile: pure-ftpd: update to 1.0.45, fix destroot https://git.io/vDV69
[05:32:38] <irker330> xeron.oskom ports:master * 9bbfff2 / sysutils/dpkg/Portfile: dpkg: update to 1.18.22. https://git.io/vDV6H
[05:33:09] <Ionic> uh... that went well...
[05:33:15] <Ionic> now gdb's segfaulting
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[06:06:37] <irker330> ionic ports:master * 1ca7ccb / audio/pulseaudio/Portfile audio/pulseaudio/files/patch-src_Makefile.am-drop-FlatCarbon-include.diff: audio/pulseaudio: fix up FlatCarbon patch. Revbump. https://git.io/vDVii
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[07:55:12] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * 43fadaf / shells/fish/Portfile: fish: update to 2.5.0 https://git.io/vDVMt
[07:55:27] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * 4fddc31 / lang/lua/Portfile: lua: update to 5.3.4 https://git.io/vDVMq
[07:55:48] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * 515e683 / net/miniupnpc/Portfile: miniupnpc: update to 2.0 https://git.io/vDVMm
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[08:53:19] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * 1560197 / net/iperf3/Portfile: iperf3: update to 3.1.6 https://git.io/vDVDK
[08:53:38] <irker330> l2dy ports:master * c880973 / math/pari/Portfile: pari: update to 2.9.1 https://git.io/vDVD6
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[12:20:32] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * c2b8c56 / shells/fish/Portfile: fish: Disable silent rules https://git.io/vDV5X
[12:20:32] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * 1a11abb / net/avahi/Portfile: avahi: Disable silent rules https://git.io/vDV51
[12:20:32] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * b41f115 / sysutils/file/Portfile: file: Update to 5.30 https://git.io/vDV5M
[12:20:32] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * 8a0f186 / graphics/graphviz-devel/Portfile: graphviz-devel: Update to 2.41.20170210.2013 https://git.io/vDV5D
[12:20:32] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * 58552b3 / graphics/libart_lgpl/Portfile graphics/libart_lgpl/files/yosemite-libtool.patch: libart_lgpl: Don't create flat-namespace dylib on Yosemite https://git.io/vDV5y
[12:20:33] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * bd04fad / net/pure-ftpd/Portfile: pure-ftpd: Remove --prefix=${prefix} from configure.args https://git.io/vDV5S
[12:20:41] <irker742> ryandesign ports:master * 5ea23e3 / devel/nodejs4/Portfile devel/nodejs4/files/patch-src-util.h.diff: nodejs4: Fix build with libc++ https://git.io/vDV59
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[14:50:46] <irker742> g5pw ports:master * 4330787 / lang/rust/Portfile: lang/rust: update to 1.15.1 https://git.io/vDVxO
[15:12:33] <irker742> ctreleaven ports:master * f6bdf91 / multimedia/mythtv.28/Portfile: mythtv.28: update to fixes as of 2017 Feb 01 https://git.io/vDVpc
[15:12:34] <irker742> ctreleaven ports:master * acddc84 / multimedia/mythweb.28/Portfile: mythtweb.28: update to fixes as of 2017 Jan 13 https://git.io/vDVpC
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[18:57:37] <JacksonIsaac> has anyone setup hadoop on macOS ?
[18:57:50] <JacksonIsaac> I am having issues setting up passwordless ssh itself
[18:58:04] <JacksonIsaac> I tried lot of methods adding id_rsa to authorized_keys
[18:58:08] <JacksonIsaac> chmod them to 600
[18:58:23] <JacksonIsaac> but nothing seems to be working
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[19:12:04] <JacksonIsaac> regarding base code: what is preferred puts or ui_msg/debug ? I was modifying the libsolv code to use ui_msg and ui_debug appropriately instead of always relying on ui_msg or directly puts.
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[20:00:33] <irker833> jeremyhu ports:master * 90aa20f / aqua/qtiplot/Portfile python/py-python2-pythondialog/Portfile python/py-usbtmc/Portfile: misc: Ensure Portfiles have terminal newlines https://git.io/vDwmr
[20:00:33] <irker833> jeremyhu ports:master * 9ef889e / : misc: Update maintainership of my ports to include my GitHub handle https://git.io/vDwmo
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[20:05:47] <Ionic> I'd really like to have an lldb port...
[20:06:33] <Ionic> oh guess what, there IS one
[20:07:25] <Ionic> great
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[21:32:02] <Ionic> jeremyhu: ever seen "ld: library not found for -lto_library"? clang-3.9 fails with that message on 10.6
[21:33:11] <Ionic> sounds suspiciously like ld64 is too old to support that, although ld64-127 is installed as part of llvm-3.4
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[21:37:06] <Ionic> hmm, I may need to rebuild ld64-127 with +llvm39, because that's the first version to include libLTO
[21:53:24] <irker833> ram ports:master * e6a4196 / science/ligo-gracedb/Portfile: science/ligo-gracedb: update to 1.23 https://git.io/vDwZK
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[22:18:05] <Lord-Kamina> Hello.
[22:18:18] <Lord-Kamina> What happened to cpp-netlib; did it get nuked?
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[22:22:44] <Ionic> there seems to never have been such a port
[22:27:27] <Lord-Kamina> https://lists.macports.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2015-November/031883.html
[22:28:55] <Ionic> yes?
[22:28:59] <Ionic> it's a new port thread
[22:29:06] <Ionic> obviously it never made it into the ports tree
[22:29:48] <Ionic> either failed review or it just phased out slowly, whatever the case
[22:37:57] <Lord-Kamina> Oh
[22:38:15] <Lord-Kamina> Meh, I guess I'll have to install it the old-fashioned way
[22:52:21] <Ionic> is Trac slow for just me or in general?
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[23:43:22] <Ionic> something really is slow, apparently
[23:44:15] <irker833> ionic ports:master * daeceb0 / devel/libssh/Portfile: devel/libssh: don't zero out configure.cppflags, use -isystem. https://git.io/vDw8H
[23:46:04] <neverpanic> Why do we have the trac browser enabled, again?
[23:46:30] <Ionic> which trac browser?
[23:47:06] <Ionic> uh, I just got an error message from trac while posting a comment... that it conflicts with something - and that "something" being my own new comment
[23:47:09] <Ionic> interesting race
[23:47:39] <Ionic> half a minute later or so the conflict message just disappared
[23:49:14] <Ionic> also got two mail messages for the same comment
[23:50:09] <neverpanic> The trac repository browser. Every time I look into the server stats there about 80 connections open to /browser/trunk/something by some web spider, mostly baidu
[23:50:24] <neverpanic> And yes, the stats confirm the HTTP load time was slow over the last hours
[23:53:37] <Ionic> mh
[23:53:57] <neverpanic> I might just try filtering Baidu traffic for /browser/ for a week and see if that changes anything
[23:54:05] <Ionic> well *probably* because trac links source stuff to its internal browser instead of github
[23:55:25] <Ionic> looks like the repository is not mirrored constantly as well, as trac just gives me a "no changeset ... in the repository" error
[23:55:46] <neverpanic> No, we have most (all?) of those links redirect to github directly
[23:55:59] <neverpanic> that happens when a webhook update from github times out due to the load
[23:56:11] <Ionic> ah
[23:56:58] <neverpanic> Yep, a few requests timed out
[23:57:04] <neverpanic> I'm adding a robots.txt now
[23:57:13] <Ionic> yeah, good idea
[23:57:18] <neverpanic> But from what I read online, baidu ignores those anyway…
[23:58:01] <Ionic> of course...
[23:58:58] <neverpanic> done, let's see if it helps
[23:59:40] <Ionic> it'll probably a day before baidu fetches the new robot.txt anyway
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