March 25, 2018 
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March 25, 2018 [00:14:01] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:23:59] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5DEBE562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[00:26:17] <wp_> TEttinger, i just want an example to work from[00:26:21] <wp_> understand the very basics[00:29:49] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-73-101-93-10.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:46:59] *** wp_ <wp_!~wp@ua-84-219-215-81.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:47:10] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip70-173-209-228.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:47:17] *** wp_ <wp_!~wp@ua-84-219-215-81.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #libgdx[00:47:29] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip70-173-209-228.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #libgdx[01:19:38] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: sleep)[01:30:10] *** dsbk <dsbk!~Bokudesu@79-69-48-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #libgdx[01:43:55] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5DEBE562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:58:17] <TEttinger> wp_: the shader in SpriteBatch is the best for that, if you intend to use the shader with SpriteBatch. there's a different one for ModelBatch in 3d[03:33:09] *** guardianxxx <guardianxxx!~guardian@120.18.200.80> has joined #libgdx[03:39:12] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-76.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[03:47:21] *** wp_ <wp_!~wp@ua-84-219-215-81.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:47:45] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5DEBE562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[03:52:49] *** guardianxxx <guardianxxx!~guardian@120.18.200.80> has quit IRC ()[03:56:10] *** guardianxxx <guardianxxx!~guardian@120.18.200.80> has joined #libgdx[04:02:36] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[04:02:43] *** dsbk <dsbk!~Bokudesu@79-69-48-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:05:02] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-76.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Quit: -)[04:09:28] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgcngxajshmomekn> has joined #libgdx[04:24:10] *** guardianxxx <guardianxxx!~guardian@120.18.200.80> has quit IRC ()[04:28:58] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-73-101-93-10.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[05:30:19] *** lukass_ <lukass_!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[05:32:57] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5DEBE562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:57:43] *** lukass_ <lukass_!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:08:46] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[06:19:20] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxvtdswltxnlywky> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[06:21:42] *** nobie <nobie!6eaedcb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.174.220.182> has joined #libgdx[06:23:11] <nobie> hi, I am trying to verify if a struct have been initialized in glsl, but since null doesn't exist in glsl. How do verify the result?[06:28:52] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b840@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.184.64> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:29:04] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b840@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.184.64> has joined #libgdx[06:35:50] <TEttinger> structs can't usually be null either, can they?[06:36:20] <TEttinger> I could easily be wrong here[06:36:29] <TEttinger> C# structs are non-nullable[06:39:20] <jayhost> The answer is not really. You typically have to use the FragColor as your test. nobie. I don't think Renderdoc or APItrace can show you variables but not 100% sure[06:39:29] <TEttinger> nobie: do you have any code that you can paste to a pastebin?[06:39:57] <TEttinger> I don't even know what renderdoc or apitrace are[06:40:36] <jayhost> Renderdoc is debugger. Apitrace shows you the GL calls[06:41:14] <jayhost> You can run your shader through a GLSL shader compiler program but I'm not sure that will help.[06:43:51] *** wp_ <wp_!~wp@ua-84-219-215-81.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #libgdx[06:44:07] <jayhost> I think a pro-workflow might run the shader on CPU first, I don't recall how to do that, I'll look into it[06:46:35] *** nobie <nobie!6eaedcb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.174.220.182> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[06:50:09] *** wp_ <wp_!~wp@ua-84-219-215-81.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:50:30] <jayhost> But using Renderdoc should make things much more straightforward.[07:04:42] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:13:26] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[08:01:58] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:08:22] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[08:15:51] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-200-199.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[08:16:30] <LiquidNitrogen> ello[08:23:52] <jayhost> Aye Nitro[08:33:53] *** cackling_grandma <cackling_grandma!~cackling_@117.1.106.178> has joined #libgdx[08:43:05] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-200-199.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Quit: -)[08:50:36] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@ip5f5adffa.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[08:54:42] <TEttinger> hm, he quit[08:54:46] <TEttinger> hey jayhost[08:55:48] <TEttinger> I'm still a little curious about glsl noise. it seems to be kinda an open field with lots of room for improvement[08:57:03] <TEttinger> hashing the points for perlin or simplex noise seems very open[08:57:35] <TEttinger> depends on whether bitwise ops work, which I don't think they are always present on GL ES 2[09:05:25] <grim001> I've done an investigation into many types of noise implemented in glsl[09:05:33] <grim001> there are quite a few implementations out there[09:05:56] <grim001> but there are so many ways to generate noise, there's always room for new techniques[09:19:39] <TEttinger> this one looks pretty good, 3d simplex, short code https://www.shadertoy.com/view/4sc3z2[09:22:11] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:25:19] <grim001> this is the version of 3d simplex I currently use: https://hastebin.com/nepuyoxusa.cpp[09:27:32] <grim001> I should compare them side by side[09:27:37] <TEttinger> looks like normal CPU-style simplex there[09:27:46] <TEttinger> nice and clear[09:30:37] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-196-77.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[09:41:28] <grim001> I spliced that noise function in and they look identical as far as I can tell[09:41:40] <grim001> difference would be the performance, which is harder to test[09:42:10] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[09:46:21] <TEttinger> neat![09:48:43] <grim001> I've also got a nice implementation of cellular 3d noise[09:49:06] <[twisti]> cellular ?[09:49:07] <grim001> I found some repository that had a huge number of noise functions[09:49:23] <TEttinger> all in one file[09:49:25] <TEttinger> ?[09:49:34] <grim001> cellular aka Worley noise[09:49:43] <bomb> that sounds like Liquid Nitrogen level of shit[09:50:15] <grim001> https://gist.github.com/patriciogonzalezvivo/670c22f3966e662d2f83[09:50:41] <TEttinger> https://github.com/BrianSharpe/Wombat[09:50:42] <TEttinger> ?[09:50:53] <grim001> yeah, that[09:52:14] <TEttinger> also https://github.com/BrianSharpe/GPU-Noise-Lib[09:54:29] <TEttinger> cool stuff[09:54:43] <TEttinger> how goes, LiquidNitrogen?[09:55:33] <LiquidNitrogen> kinda tired. hard to sleep properly with the ceiling mouse waking me up every hour[09:56:18] <TEttinger> ceiling mouse? I have one of those sometimes, they seem to enjoy triggering the traps with debris instead of their faces[09:56:43] <TEttinger> I run a fan and it's harder to hear[09:57:14] <LiquidNitrogen> theres always one here cos my house isnt quite good enough to keep them out[09:57:59] <LiquidNitrogen> and its feet are very loud on the corrugated cardboard ceiling[09:58:57] <TEttinger> it may be nibblin'[09:59:23] <TEttinger> it pops in for breakfast, "whacha makin?"[10:00:24] <LiquidNitrogen> i dunno what its up to, it doesnt even go into the kitchen looking for food[10:15:32] <[twisti]> i get ceiling mice in fall when it gets cold outside[10:22:56] <bomb> guys[10:23:02] <bomb> recommend me a Wordpress alternative[10:24:59] <LiquidNitrogen> notepad[10:34:33] <bomb> wordpress is nice but then you need to run mysql and php[10:35:36] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has joined #libgdx[10:36:24] <jayhost> Medium[10:37:06] <bomb> no[10:37:28] <jayhost> Ghost or Jekyll[10:40:43] <bomb> https://gohugo.io/[10:40:46] <bomb> what about Hugo?[10:49:23] <jayhost> Ya that'd be an alt to Jekyll, would work fine[10:50:21] <jayhost> There's also https://middlemanapp.com/ not sure if it's good[10:51:38] <jayhost> This is what I would use though. https://blog.getpelican.com/[10:53:09] <jayhost> https://github.com/getpelican/pelican[10:54:21] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBE92D00E3D393C736E37DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:56:10] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[10:56:22] <jayhost> Actually that might be outdated. Here's another. https://www.getgutenberg.io/ I'm tired going to bed. Later[11:01:12] <bomb> but can grandpa use it?[11:04:36] <TEttinger> can grandpa tell you stories about the war?[11:05:42] <TEttinger> if it's for an elderly person just use a web-hosted service[11:05:57] <TEttinger> they won't live long enough to see the service crash and go bankrupt[11:08:51] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBE92D00E3D393C736E37DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[11:12:43] <SuckyNoob> whatre u guys up to[11:24:23] <bomb> you're a terrible person TEttinger[11:26:06] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[11:34:00] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:35:30] <X-Ray-Jin> bomb: btw what is wrong with you that you r so offensive and sarcastic all the time?[11:49:28] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-196-77.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:57:52] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[12:00:47] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:06:29] *** linuxfranz <linuxfranz!~franz@pD95FF0DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[12:07:39] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@ip5f5adffa.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Zzzzz...)[12:21:29] *** cackling_grandma <cackling_grandma!~cackling_@117.1.106.178> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:23:46] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@2a02:810d:9240:d58:dc7d:a63c:c257:747a> has joined #libgdx[12:33:18] <bomb> X-Ray-Jin: WAT ME NO[12:34:00] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@2a02:810d:9240:d58:dc7d:a63c:c257:747a> has quit IRC (Quit: Zzzzz...)[13:22:59] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:41:23] *** royal_screwup21 <royal_screwup21!89de72f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.137.222.114.246> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:21:30] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[14:24:28] *** royal_screwup21 <royal_screwup21!89de72f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.137.222.114.246> has joined #libgdx[14:24:39] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:26:48] <royal_screwup21> I want to add graph library (jgapht) to my libgdx desktop app. I added it to my root build.gradle file like so: https://thepasteb.in/p/DRhjmAzlK8zIy and run "rebuild project", which returned a successful build. Yet the library doesn't show up on my complete and is presumably missing - how do I fix this?[14:27:19] <royal_screwup21> autocomplete*[14:28:05] *** segurb__ <segurb__!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[14:28:35] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:32:50] *** linuxfranz <linuxfranz!~franz@pD95FF0DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:40:06] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elzowdpyxkpdzvgg> has joined #libgdx[14:47:24] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has joined #libgdx[14:50:57] <royal_screwup21> someone? :([14:54:06] <SuckyNoob> whats up[14:54:28] <SuckyNoob> royal_screwup21[14:54:36] <royal_screwup21> I want to add graph library (jgapht) to my libgdx desktop app. I added it to my root build.gradle file like so: https://thepasteb.in/p/DRhjmAzlK8zIy and ran "rebuild project", which returned a successful build. Yet the library doesn't show up on my autocomplete and is presumably missing - how do I fix this?[14:54:40] <royal_screwup21> SuckyNoob:[14:57:45] <HMS_Reliable> try putting it in the projet "core" dependencies[14:58:49] <HMS_Reliable> project[14:59:45] <royal_screwup21> holy shit that worked![15:00:01] <royal_screwup21> thanks HMS_Reliable[15:00:05] <HMS_Reliable> np[15:01:26] <SuckyNoob> sorry lol stepped away for a second looked like the HMS_Reliable has your back tho :p[15:02:13] <royal_screwup21> I'm looking at the docs https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Dependency-management-with-Gradle and it explictly says NOT to put in core lol[15:02:25] <HMS_Reliable> oh does it[15:03:10] <royal_screwup21> actually nvm[15:04:09] <royal_screwup21> I mean yeah it's a little unclear[15:04:39] <royal_screwup21> at the start they say to put it all under desktop/android[15:05:52] <royal_screwup21> and then at the end, under "mavenizing local repositories", they say it put it under "core"[15:06:34] <royal_screwup21> is this an example of "mavenizing a repo"?[15:06:48] <royal_screwup21> don't want to make the same mistake again haha[15:06:56] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[15:07:44] <HMS_Reliable> yep[15:07:47] <HMS_Reliable> the old shaven maven[15:07:57] <royal_screwup21> ah I see thanks for the clarification[15:08:34] <royal_screwup21> so...basically, every time I want an external repo that's not part of libgdx, I put it under core[15:08:57] <HMS_Reliable> so it would appear[15:29:27] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:34:46] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b840@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.184.64> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:36:18] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b840@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.184.64> has joined #libgdx[16:33:12] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:38:31] *** segurb__ <segurb__!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[16:42:00] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[16:42:15] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-78-125-251.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[16:44:47] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-78-125-251.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:50:40] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:51:40] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[16:53:05] *** Zta1 <Zta1!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #libgdx[16:54:14] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@2a02:810d:9240:d58:5c:813f:cf35:6acb> has joined #libgdx[16:56:08] *** senthilkumark <senthilkumark!~senthilku@144.48.49.152> has joined #libgdx[16:56:21] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@pD9FF316F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[16:56:34] <senthilkumark> How to enable proguard for LibGDX?[16:57:53] <senthilkumark> for Desktop[16:58:03] <senthilkumark> not for Android release.[17:05:13] <jab> what's a good way to do kind of a "color scheme" for ui elements?[17:05:46] <jab> i don't want to have a billion different regions with different colors[17:06:14] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[17:23:30] <Frotty> jab: implemetation- or design-wise[17:24:08] <jab> Frotty: not sure i understand the difference?[17:24:34] <jab> it would be nice to just be able to set a background color and a tint color[17:24:53] <Frotty> the former is making a .json skin file and how to load it into libgdx[17:25:04] <Frotty> the latter is something about, how to know fitting colors[17:25:13] <Frotty> or decide on a color scheme cbased on color theory[17:25:18] <jab> i have a skin, it has white for most elements and grey/alpha backgrounds[17:25:32] <jab> eh, not color schemes, but implementation then[17:25:47] <jab> but in code be able to have the user set fg ui color and bg ui color[17:27:51] <jab> ive been trying to set batch color to affect all the white elements of the ui, and then setting background to a pixmap texture, but it hasn't been working[17:29:19] <Shockah> how are you drawing the UI elements? using the Sprite class? from what i've seen, doing that ignores SpriteBatch's color[17:29:26] <Shockah> you'd have to set Sprite's color instead[17:38:17] <senthilkumark> how to use proguard for desktop release? Somebody please help.[17:38:37] *** oseph <oseph!~textual@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #libgdx[17:39:44] <jab> Shockah: no sprites[17:44:43] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has joined #libgdx[17:45:18] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[17:46:18] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:35:45] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:52:39] *** senthilkumark <senthilkumark!~senthilku@144.48.49.152> has quit IRC ()[19:01:56] *** oseph <oseph!~textual@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:04:17] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[19:13:12] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has joined #libgdx[19:27:46] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:29:54] *** Frotty <Frotty!~FrottyZao@ip-178-201-132-41.hsi08.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:31:17] *** Frotty <Frotty!~FrottyZao@ip-178-201-132-41.hsi08.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #libgdx[19:38:20] <royal_screwup21> what's the easiest way to remove whitespace from a sprite? :([19:39:16] <royal_screwup21> actually it's a Texture, not a sprite[19:49:43] <bomb> whitespace?[19:50:31] <royal_screwup21> yeah, my image has a white background to it[19:50:56] <bomb> magic wand[19:57:05] <jayhost> In Gimp? If you post it I can post back[20:05:11] <royal_screwup21> someone? :([20:05:27] <royal_screwup21> I've tweaked the alpha channel, and while that's worked to a degree, it isn't perfect[20:23:08] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:9990:4839:735c:df6c> has joined #libgdx[20:29:55] <jayhost> royal_screwup21 post the image?[20:34:57] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:36:48] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[20:43:08] <jab> Anyone have an idea regarding setting fg/bg of scene2d elements at runtime?[20:49:18] *** mduSenthil <mduSenthil!90303198@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.48.49.152> has joined #libgdx[20:50:08] <mduSenthil> When libgdx app is packed using Packr with target of Win32 the game runs in 40 FPS[20:50:14] <mduSenthil> why?[20:52:38] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[20:52:50] <jayhost> No idea, it shouldn't affect fps[20:54:55] <jayhost> mduSenthil looks like someone else had that issue but no answer http://badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22672&p=93239[20:56:13] <royal_screwup21> jayhost: here's what I'm working with https://imgur.com/a/yHHSY[20:56:38] <Shockah> you can't easily automate it[20:56:43] <Shockah> or rather, can't at all[20:57:00] <mduSenthil> thanks jayhost[20:59:48] <royal_screwup21> I did it!!!!![20:59:49] <royal_screwup21> omg[21:00:11] <jayhost> You did? That one is tough with the robot being same color[21:00:38] <royal_screwup21> moral of the story: choose images that already have a transparent background to begin with[21:00:44] <Shockah> ^^^^^[21:01:09] <Shockah> or at least a different background color than the object is[21:01:15] <Shockah> and possibly without shadows and such[21:02:33] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@2a02:810d:9240:d58:5c:813f:cf35:6acb> has quit IRC (Quit: Zzzzz...)[21:13:42] <jayhost> royal_screwup21 I got it pretty damn close https://imgur.com/a/x5wuE[21:16:33] <[twisti]> jayhost: that looks kinda portalish[21:17:51] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgcngxajshmomekn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:22:05] <TEttinger> mduSenthil: which JRE did you package with packr?[21:22:26] <TEttinger> if it's a 32-bit JRE and you normally use a 64-bit JRE, that could make a big difference[21:22:33] <mduSenthil> openjdk-1.7.0-u80-unofficial-windows-i586-image.zip[21:22:47] <TEttinger> that's x86 I think[21:22:50] <TEttinger> hm[21:22:57] <TEttinger> 32bit[21:23:00] <mduSenthil> What should I go for?[21:23:03] <jayhost> [twisti] Yeah it's royal's image, I cropped out the white for them. What you been up to?[21:23:11] <mduSenthil> Where should I get open JDKs[21:23:17] <TEttinger> well some windows computers are 32 bit[21:23:26] <TEttinger> all macs can run 64-bit these days[21:23:28] <TEttinger> some linux[21:23:57] <mduSenthil> you are recommending to target 64 bit ?[21:24:10] <mduSenthil> or you are recommending to use 64 bit JRE?[21:24:13] <TEttinger> only if it's causing an issue[21:24:42] <mduSenthil> yes. it is causing issue. 32 bit is slow[21:24:47] <TEttinger> it's possible that openjdk zip only includes a client jre instead of a server jre[21:24:54] <TEttinger> there are 32-bit server jres[21:25:04] <jayhost> mduSenthil I get openjdk's here https://github.com/alexkasko/openjdk-unofficial-builds Tet gets them from Zulu[21:25:12] <TEttinger> server does massively more optimizations[21:25:13] <[twisti]> jayhost: nothing really, being forced to do PHP work at, well, work[21:25:25] <TEttinger> server does take longer to start up though[21:25:57] <TEttinger> https://zulu.org for me, they have java 8 and 7[21:26:03] <TEttinger> and more[21:26:50] <jayhost> Tettinger does the 32 bit jdk explain 50% framerate, assuming that's correct[21:27:17] <TEttinger> it explains it if server jre can't be used yes[21:27:20] <TEttinger> http://zulu.org/download/?platform=&processor=Intel%20x86&bitness=32[21:27:32] <TEttinger> I'll check if these include a server jre[21:28:35] <TEttinger> those are client, it seems most 32-bit java uses a client jre[21:28:43] <jayhost> [twisti] torture. I'm so sorry[21:29:15] <TEttinger> client's gotten a little better, but not as much as server[21:29:23] <[twisti]> it wouldnt be so bad if i didnt know java, but everything in php is like "java, but worse"[21:29:37] <mduSenthil> totally confused[21:30:16] <mduSenthil> for libgdx game to be packed using Packr which JDK should be used. there are many. 7/8/9?[21:31:03] <TEttinger> 9 can't be minimized currently[21:31:10] <TEttinger> 8 is larger but can be minimized I think[21:31:14] <jayhost> mduSenthil you can use whichever you prefer. If you don't use any new features 7 is fine.[21:31:21] <TEttinger> 7 is smallest and can also be minimized[21:31:29] <TEttinger> 8 allows lambdas etc.[21:31:39] <mduSenthil> I didnt use any new features[21:31:58] <jayhost> It's funny how half the internet posts online about java and fps are about minecraft specifically[21:31:59] <TEttinger> 7 is fine then. 6 may have security issues since it's been a decade since it was released[21:32:36] <mduSenthil> ok fine.[21:32:40] <mduSenthil> will try with Zulu[21:32:58] <royal_screwup21> how do I flip an image sideways? I've settled on using this image, so when it moves right I would need it to...flip sideways? https://imgur.com/a/PNO5K[21:33:46] <jayhost> royal_screwup21 that image is symetrical :P[21:34:09] <jayhost> nvm no it's not but close[21:35:28] <royal_screwup21> I'm trying to write a simple algorithm where a robot finds the shortest path to a given target, on a n x n grid. When this robot moves, say, right, wouldn't it look it weird if it moved right, with its image as-is?[21:35:50] <royal_screwup21> it would be facing the user[21:36:07] <jayhost> Well if you want it to face right you would want a side image of the robot[21:36:13] <royal_screwup21> yeah side image[21:36:17] <jayhost> You can flip with textureRegion.flip or draw -x[21:36:50] <royal_screwup21> draw -x hmm[21:37:13] <jayhost> you can use this asset pack https://www.gameart2d.com/the-robot---free-sprites.html[21:37:38] <royal_screwup21> damn, thanks![21:37:49] <royal_screwup21> have to figure out hot use an asset pack, but this looks promising[21:37:51] <royal_screwup21> how*[21:38:54] <jayhost> Yeah you just use spritesheet and split by regions[21:39:28] <royal_screwup21> jayhost: sorry what exactly did you mean by draw -x? I know of the batch.draw() method but I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to[21:42:51] <TEttinger> guessing he meant drawing with negative width?[21:43:28] <royal_screwup21> oh[21:43:41] <TEttinger> mduSenthil: I'd try the 64-bit builds of zulu, the 32-bit builds are newer and only have the slower client jre[21:43:49] <TEttinger> client jre uses less ram[21:44:33] <mduSenthil> ok Tettinger[21:44:50] <mduSenthil> I have tried JDK 7 from Zulu[21:44:59] <mduSenthil> exe is not opening.[21:45:23] <TEttinger> from packr or what?[21:45:51] *** mattfly1 <mattfly1!~matheus@191.54.99.229> has joined #libgdx[21:46:04] <TEttinger> is there an exception or other error that you can paste?[21:46:06] *** mattfly1 <mattfly1!~matheus@191.54.99.229> has left #libgdx[21:47:27] <mduSenthil> packr[21:48:03] <mduSenthil> no exception. just getting closed.[21:48:09] <mduSenthil> no error[21:48:25] <TEttinger> weird[21:48:35] <TEttinger> using a 64-bit zulu 7 build?[21:48:51] <mduSenthil> but if packr is used with https://github.com/alexkasko/openjdk-unofficial-builds it is working[21:49:07] <jayhost> Boom Jayhost links are superior![21:49:15] <jayhost> :P jk[21:49:25] <mduSenthil> yes x86_64[21:49:32] <mduSenthil> JDK 7[21:49:38] <TEttinger> I'm guessing that you have some config that still says it is an x86 JRE in packr[21:49:39] <mduSenthil> The most early version of 7[21:50:08] <mduSenthil> there is no such config i believe[21:50:15] <TEttinger> platform: one of "windows32", "windows64", "linux32", "linux64", "mac"[21:50:21] <TEttinger> you want windows64[21:50:58] <mduSenthil> if possible 32 without any lag[21:51:13] <mduSenthil> worst case 64 without any issue.[21:51:47] <jayhost> As long as FPS is good it sounds like it's good. I still want to make an Ultimate minimized Jre. The Pax Britannica demo uses Excelsior Jet https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx-demo-pax-britannica[21:51:54] <TEttinger> I'm saying if you use that zulu x86_64 build you need to change platform to windows64 instead of windows32[21:52:03] <mduSenthil> oh[21:52:06] <mduSenthil> got it[21:52:43] <TEttinger> packr should really give more info here, that should be detectable on its side...[21:55:56] <bomb> i wish i can write shit[21:55:57] <bomb> i can't write[21:56:07] <bomb> i make grammar mistakes[21:56:34] *** mduSenthil <mduSenthil!90303198@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.48.49.152> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:57:58] <jayhost> lovely poem bomb[21:59:47] *** serugb_ <serugb_!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[22:17:06] *** FOSProgrammer <FOSProgrammer!uid289678@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofiwxlkkzonmwmsc> has joined #libgdx[22:22:27] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:29:28] *** aurelius <aurelius!d44f6e79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.79.110.121> has joined #libgdx[22:31:14] <aurelius> hello, have you got link at graphically rich scene2d menu UI?[22:33:08] <aurelius> i need to specify this to the graphic designer. and i found only graphically very basic versions[22:33:57] <TEttinger> I'd guess that the existing skins in that one repo would be a good starting place[22:34:20] <TEttinger> https://github.com/czyzby/gdx-skins[22:35:05] <jayhost> and https://github.com/czyzby/gdx-lml[22:42:47] <aurelius> menu like this looks ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i7cujg9Y3M, but this menu will not change width and height ... seems like the size is fixed[22:46:26] <aurelius> TEttinger: i started with ORANGE template. now i would like to go futher[23:43:01] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-201-48.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[23:46:24] *** DB219 <DB219!c4340245@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.2.69> has joined #libgdx[23:59:42] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx