March 9, 2018 
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I have no idea what's going on here... according to the late great George Marsaglia, the 64-bit generator he recommends, with a left shift, right shift, left shift, should be identical to one with a right shift, left shift, right shift. but his recommended one (with different input) fails a lotta tests and the other succeeds...[03:40:26] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:41:35] <LiquidNitro> maybe different endianness?[03:42:32] <TEttinger> sorta, his kept the result for the next input, mine uses an increment to get the next input[03:42:38] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:44:16] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[03:45:43] <TEttinger> wb[03:46:02] <LiquidNitrogen> too windy[03:46:18] <TEttinger> endianness doesn't affect one-word operations[03:46:33] <TEttinger> it can affect them if they're converted to bytes[03:46:42] <TEttinger> multiple bytes, only[03:50:34] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[03:53:32] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[04:05:00] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[04:07:57] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:42:15] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[04:42:16] *** xXx_casca_xXx <xXx_casca_xXx!~casca@96.43.138.50> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io)[04:45:34] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-116.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:48:26] *** DB219 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(Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:07:35] *** DB219 <DB219!415efe37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.94.254.55> has quit IRC ()[07:22:13] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[07:46:12] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:51:01] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[07:56:14] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has joined #libgdx[07:56:44] <ChaseWaylon> how can I insert an image to libGDX issue thread at github?[07:58:31] <bomb> https://help.github.com/categories/writing-on-github/[07:59:41] <bomb> or just[07:59:42] <bomb> https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#images[08:01:12] <jayhost> Nice bomb[08:02:28] <ChaseWaylon> thanks bomb[08:02:38] <ChaseWaylon> still dont know how to insert image though :)[08:03:34] <Ashiren> use some fancy ascii art[08:04:16] <Ashiren> or just link to imgur[08:05:34] <ChaseWaylon> i can make a link, but i've seen other peoples posts are with images[08:05:41] <ChaseWaylon> so it should be possible[08:06:06] <Ashiren> well it says everything you need in that page[08:10:19] <ChaseWaylon> well it doesn't, found the solution elswhere :)[08:10:55] <ChaseWaylon> needed to ad exclamation mark before link[08:11:46] <ChaseWaylon> oh, lol, only now I noticed a second link that bomb gave[08:11:50] <ChaseWaylon> my bad[08:20:30] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[08:33:28] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has joined #libgdx[08:45:01] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:45:16] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[08:54:06] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[08:57:05] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:bc49:d8ba:ed3c:d7d8> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:58:04] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-73-101-93-10.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[09:03:42] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has joined #libgdx[09:09:14] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[09:12:15] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBE133002146ABCC8A1A806C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:20:13] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:25:05] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD4DB00D1B18DB4A1FB7912.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[09:26:04] *** spaceemotion <spaceemotion!~spaceemot@x55b4e911.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #libgdx[09:37:05] *** spaceemotion <spaceemotion!~spaceemot@x55b4e911.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[09:47:18] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-211-54.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has joined #libgdx[09:57:14] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b98a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.185.138> has joined #libgdx[09:59:45] *** Jonas__ <Jonas__!~Jonas__@unaffiliated/jonas/x-7723671> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:29:54] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[10:30:17] <TEttinger> smelc: you were right[10:30:28] <TEttinger> I've moved SquidLib back to using LightRNG[10:30:56] <smelc> hey Tet[10:30:58] <smelc> about what ?[10:31:20] <TEttinger> although next(int), nextInt(int) and nextInt(int, int) changed to slightly more efficient versions because they had really old impls[10:31:24] <TEttinger> about LightRNG[10:31:44] <TEttinger> (the old versions are still there)[10:32:40] <TEttinger> I had made the default ThrustAltRNG and it turns out that generator makes the same longs more than once in its period and never produces some others, ever[10:32:56] <TEttinger> LightRNG works and I think is fast enough :)[10:33:07] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:33:22] <TEttinger> ThrustAltRNG still passed every test I threw at it[10:49:54] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:50:09] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[11:02:39] <TEttinger> nn[11:07:56] <bomb> TEttinger i think i'm old enough to start writing tutorials[11:08:19] <bomb> i'll mostly cover web and server-side stuff, if it's OK for you[11:08:36] <bomb> but now i'm in a great dilemma[11:09:05] <bomb> should i create a website for each topic, or have one catch-all website for all?[11:15:10] <LiquidNitrogen> write a book about suffering[11:16:11] <bomb> hmm, people sell tutorials on Gumroad[11:17:11] <bomb> also on Udemy[11:17:23] <bomb> How To Suffer Mastercourse[11:19:02] <bomb> https://www.udemy.com/the-complete-libgdx-game-course/[11:19:38] <bomb> 20 hours[11:21:23] <bomb> there is also this one: https://www.udemy.com/libgdx-game-development-masterclass/[11:21:26] <bomb> 58 hours[11:21:53] <bomb> > 1,134 students enrolled[11:22:00] <bomb> > €17.99[11:22:18] <bomb> that's...[11:22:28] <bomb> 20 eurogrands[11:29:30] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[11:30:04] <LiquidNitro> thats a small fortune[11:32:13] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:33:03] <bomb> he has 5 other courses and total 203,199 students[11:33:03] <bomb> same price[11:33:44] <LiquidNitro> 4mil$?[11:35:17] <smelc> wow[11:35:25] <smelc> didn't know there were stuff like this[11:36:02] <bomb> it's essentially selling shovels to gold miners[11:36:20] <smelc> yep that's exactly it[11:36:24] <ChaseWaylon> can I somehow load and get fonts not by filename through asset manager? asset.manager.get("FontName.ttf", BitmapFont.class);[11:36:59] <bomb> how hard is to record screencasts?[11:37:11] <bomb> i mean, things go wrong all the time[11:38:09] <smelc> it's for sure a lot of time to build a complete course[11:42:08] <bomb> https://www.udemy.com/2dunitygame/[11:42:12] <bomb> 36 students enrolled[11:42:21] <bomb> €17.99 again[11:42:48] <bomb> this is the worst scenario i could find[11:45:29] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:bc49:d8ba:ed3c:d7d8> has joined #libgdx[11:45:32] <bomb> dang[11:46:22] <bomb> udemy takes 50%[11:47:37] <bomb> so you make $5-$10 per course[11:47:47] <bomb> 36 sales won't cut it obviously[11:50:20] <bomb> still, $400 isn't bad for 10 hours of screencast[11:59:45] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[12:03:12] *** LiquidNitro <LiquidNitro!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:48:13] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@117.1.106.178> has joined #libgdx[12:49:21] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-90-169.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:52:02] <ChaseWaylon> what is the best practice to prepare freetype font for all resolutions? i set size, but in screen that has higher res than my gameworld virtual rez it becomes blurry[12:53:13] <ChaseWaylon> also tried multiplying size by Gdx.graphics.getWidth() / worldWidth[12:53:29] <ChaseWaylon> and then scale down the font by the same multiplier[12:53:44] <ChaseWaylon> but it doesnt work well with smaller font sizes[12:54:35] <ChaseWaylon> please reveal the secret of freetype fonts :)[12:57:11] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:bc49:d8ba:ed3c:d7d8> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:09:43] <Tomski> ChaseWaylon: never scale[13:10:03] <Tomski> Use a screen viewport and generate font based on size of screen viewport height[13:10:54] <ChaseWaylon> oh cool, scaling caused other issues for me as well[13:14:45] <cackling_ladies> you'll have to do something like html vh/vw if you want to have your font consistently sized relative to the game window screen tho[13:15:49] <ChaseWaylon> could you elaborate a bit please[13:17:56] <cackling_ladies> let's say you want the font size to be around 5% the height of the windows[13:17:58] <ChaseWaylon> so I have parameter.fontParameters.size = 22; this looks good in 480 width resolution of my gameworld. but in 720 or 1440 not so much. where do I go from there?[13:18:03] <ChaseWaylon> yeah[13:18:10] <cackling_ladies> then it'd be different when it's 800x600 and 640x480[13:18:31] <cackling_ladies> that mean when you initiate the font, it'd have to read from the windows size[13:19:31] <cackling_ladies> I personally put it on the resize() call just to be sure that it's properly reinitiated when the screen size change.[13:19:55] <cackling_ladies> html has vw/vh units which are 1% of the screen width and height[13:20:07] <ChaseWaylon> could you paste a line?[13:20:09] <cackling_ladies> this is handy when you want to script your game[13:21:36] <cackling_ladies> resize() is a method you extend from ApplicationListener[13:21:42] <cackling_ladies> it's not something i came up with[13:22:48] <ChaseWaylon> i know what resize() is but still dont get how you generate your font according to resolution :)[13:23:57] <cackling_ladies> uh something like absoluteSize = relativeSize*unit*screenHeight[13:25:57] <ChaseWaylon> I think that is what I am doing .. parameter.fontParameters.size = (int)Math.ceil(Constants.resolutionMultiplier*22);[13:26:23] <cackling_ladies> yep pretty much :)[13:26:39] <ChaseWaylon> and then labelScore.setFontScale(1f/Constants.resolutionMultiplier,1f/Constants.resolutionMultiplier);[13:26:57] <cackling_ladies> wait why do you need to scale the font again...[13:28:08] <ChaseWaylon> because it gets too big in higher resolutions[13:29:07] <ChaseWaylon> size 22 is ok in 480x800 res. on device 720x1280 same size is fine, but font resolution looks like is ment for 480x800[13:29:11] <cackling_ladies> isnt that the way it should be? 5% font in 800x600 is 30px and in 1920x1080 is 54px[13:30:05] <cackling_ladies> oh I can kind of guess how you got there. You have an internal resolution right?[13:30:08] <ChaseWaylon> so i generate bigger size (what gives me better rez) and then scale it down back to the size i need[13:30:19] <ChaseWaylon> yes, its 480x800[13:30:48] <cackling_ladies> you should render font in native resolution[13:31:39] <ChaseWaylon> how do I set actor bounds etc then?[13:32:23] <ChaseWaylon> yeah i feel this is something i have to understand[13:32:25] <cackling_ladies> same way as you'd do fonts I suppose. use relative size and scale them to absolute size to match with screen resolution.[13:33:06] <cackling_ladies> alternatively do two pass rendering with different viewports?[13:33:17] <cackling_ladies> (i've never tried that, too complicated for me!)[13:33:58] <cackling_ladies> @tomski can different viewports of different scaling exist side by side?[13:34:19] <Tomski> yes[13:34:28] <Tomski> side by side in what sense?[13:34:38] <Tomski> You two are the same colour in my irc[13:34:40] <Tomski> thats not fun[13:34:58] <cackling_ladies> hmm I was wondering if I can have one of my internal resolution to render game world, and one of screen native resolution to render text[13:35:04] <Frotty> hi Tomski o/[13:35:18] <Tomski> hello[13:35:23] <Tomski> yes absolutely cackling_ladies[13:35:35] <cackling_ladies> ^ that's your answer then, @chasewaylon[13:35:47] <ChaseWaylon> stage = new Stage(new ExtendViewport(480, 800)); <--- this is my internal res (virtual res). should i do this differently somehow?[13:37:26] <ChaseWaylon> ok so I can keep this internal rez (480x800) and make another viewport for font generation only?[13:44:14] <cackling_ladies> pretty much is my suggestion[13:44:21] <cackling_ladies> else you get blurry font[13:44:33] <cackling_ladies> some people are fine with me, I absolutely abhor blurry font![13:44:44] <cackling_ladies> fine with it*[13:45:02] <Tomski> For all ui[13:45:02] <ChaseWaylon> I understand the principle[13:45:04] <Tomski> use a screen viewport[13:45:14] <Tomski> For the game, use some other, like extend with decent values[13:45:28] <ChaseWaylon> my game is made out of ui[13:45:42] <Tomski> Then just use a screenviewport[13:45:46] <Tomski> Or at least use a bigger one[13:45:50] <Tomski> so you aren't upscaling so much[13:47:59] <ChaseWaylon> i try to make less compromises so i could learn more[13:48:01] <ChaseWaylon> :)[13:48:08] <ChaseWaylon> for future projects[13:49:48] <cackling_ladies> good luck, font fixing is a major pita[13:53:23] <ChaseWaylon> Tomski: I have submited an issue about kerning on android. as you told me to[13:58:15] <Tomski> ChaseWaylon: soudns like a good plan.[13:58:24] <Tomski> And yes, I saw, its a good issue, thanks![13:59:18] <ChaseWaylon> thanks. see you later[13:59:32] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[14:40:40] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqwvscseuraarwrt> has joined #libgdx[15:32:23] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[15:48:36] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[15:52:54] *** mattfly <mattfly!~matheus@191.55.198.155> has joined #libgdx[15:58:56] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-79-196-238.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[16:02:43] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-79-196-238.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:15:32] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!4e3dc5ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.61.197.238> has joined #libgdx[16:36:37] *** mattfly <mattfly!~matheus@191.55.198.155> has left #libgdx[17:19:56] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:35:28] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-211-54.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC ()[17:36:38] *** kvuser7 <kvuser7!021807f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.24.7.241> has joined #libgdx[17:37:20] <kvuser7> hi all... just wanted to ask if there is a limit on the number of point lights you can render ... can't seem to instance more than five....[17:39:08] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[17:43:48] *** mutilator <mutilator!muti@c-73-144-231-9.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:44:02] *** mutilator <mutilator!muti@c-73-144-231-9.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[18:00:12] *** Elite-Epochs <Elite-Epochs!~Parker@165.227.217.42> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-876-42939c9 - https://znc.in)[18:09:03] *** mtsr <mtsr!mtsr@2600:3c01:e001:3912::11> has quit IRC (Quit: PanicBNC - http://PanicBNC.net)[18:14:06] *** mtsr <mtsr!mtsr@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-yhqycxuqvfwtbsjc> has joined #libgdx[18:17:10] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[18:27:53] *** kvuser7 <kvuser7!021807f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.24.7.241> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[18:37:27] *** zortness_ <zortness_!~zortness@cpe-23-241-196-37.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:37:53] *** zortness_ <zortness_!~zortness@cpe-23-241-196-37.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[18:44:24] *** spaceemotion <spaceemotion!~spaceemot@x55b4e911.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #libgdx[18:50:12] *** spaceemotion <spaceemotion!~spaceemot@x55b4e911.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[19:40:06] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@117.1.106.178> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[20:07:48] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689FCD.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[20:07:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[20:08:46] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[20:29:44] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[20:30:55] *** cobolfoo <cobolfoo!~cobolfoo@modemcable234.250-70-69.static.videotron.ca> has joined #libgdx[20:37:13] <ChaseWaylon> when i make new Label with some text. and then change the text (.setText). then when i do label.getWidth() i get the original width that was before i changed text. how to i get the new width?[20:37:33] <ChaseWaylon> how do *[20:50:54] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jwqjfawihzmmhmlf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:51:14] *** Wilwarin <Wilwarin!562c41e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.44.65.228> has joined #libgdx[20:51:53] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:bc49:d8ba:ed3c:d7d8> has joined #libgdx[20:57:53] <Wilwarin> Hey guys :) I'm doing a project in LibGDX and I found that there aren't many resources on when to use Screen and when to use Stage. Eg. I want to implement main menu with home screen with new game, load game, settings, quit, and for the first 3 I'd have additional options like selecting save to load, selecting new game parameters, options, etc. Should these different "screens" be implemented as different screens or different stages?[20:58:51] <bomb> different screens Wilwarin[20:59:00] <Wilwarin> Thank you :)[20:59:19] <bomb> screens are just like game states, like menu state, gameplay state, game end state[20:59:38] <bomb> and stage is your canvas, if you're using stage2d[20:59:40] <Wilwarin> When to use Stages then? I feel like most of my screens would have 1 screen only[21:00:04] <bomb> yeah. i never needed more than one stage per screen for my games[21:00:18] <bomb> but my games weren't masterpieces[21:00:23] <Wilwarin> awesome, thank you very much[21:00:29] <bomb> welcome[21:01:06] <Wilwarin> I though of 2 stages when creating game screen, one for pannable map, one for interface on the side of the screen, would that be logical?[21:02:43] <Wilwarin> thought*[21:03:50] <bomb> some people use libgdx's own stuff for the game, and stage2d for HUD only[21:04:03] <SuckyNoob> https://www.gamedevelopment.blog/full-libgdx-game-tutorial-project-setup/[21:04:27] <SuckyNoob> This one starts off with a main menu and settings etc if u want to see Stage from scene2d and screens work[21:04:40] <bomb> i used stage2d for the games itself. single stage for both HUD and the game[21:04:43] <ChaseWaylon> map and interface can be actors on same stage[21:06:52] <ChaseWaylon> bomb: do you use tables?[21:09:17] <bomb> yep, it's surprisingly easy to use for grid layouts[21:11:02] <bomb> i thought i'd need to write at least 20 lines of JSON with broken syntax, and create 40 different objects to use it[21:11:11] <bomb> but it just works[21:13:17] <ChaseWaylon> how could I align horizontally [IMAGE] and label with text in the same line?[21:13:50] <ChaseWaylon> | <--- [IMAGE] [LABEL] ---> |[21:16:14] <bomb> i'd use nested tables[21:19:53] <Wilwarin> To expand on my previous question, the guide shows use of 5 screens. Would I do extra screens for the extra options? (new game -> # of players, difficulty; load -> save1, save2... etc.)[21:20:16] <Wilwarin> seems like a lot of extra work to create new screen and new stage for the screen for a few new fields[21:21:45] <ChaseWaylon> do you want each option displayed in a new screen?[21:35:12] <bomb> you can implement that in one screen by hiding/showing actors[21:36:27] <bomb> tip: use Group class to group actors :)[21:36:34] <Wilwarin> Do you think that hiding/showing actors would be the optimal solution? or hiding/showing scenes depending on the menu click?[21:36:46] <Wilwarin> Oh, so using groups then? :D[21:37:39] <Wilwarin> cause if there's like 5 settings for a new game, writing 10 lines to hide/show would be suboptimal imo. So creating all the options and grouping them and then showing them depending on what user click would be the best option?[21:39:42] <Wilwarin> That's where my main confusion is. When to use Screen, Stage and Group for diferent menu and UI parts[21:43:34] <bomb> dude just code the stuff[21:45:03] <bomb> you pretty much only need Menu screen, game screen, maybe pause game screen, and endgame screen[21:45:48] <bomb> then you have single stage for each screen[21:45:58] <bomb> Group is just an actor that holds other actors[21:58:03] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Doodiedoodiedoodiedoooo)[22:24:41] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-81-173-155-69.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[22:28:30] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-81-173-155-69.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:48:17] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689FCD.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:53:59] <royal_screwup21> I'm trying to access a font like so: "font = new BitmapFont(Gdx.files.internal("android/assets/arial-15.fnt.txt"));" but it throws a traceback saying it can't find the file https://thepasteb.in/p/48hYWxZD0ZrIR How do I fix this? The font file is indeed inside android/assets/[23:02:43] *** royal_screwup21 <royal_screwup21!89de72f3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.137.222.114.243> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:11:50] *** royal_screwup21 <royal_screwup21!89de72f3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.137.222.114.243> has joined #libgdx[23:13:14] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@b4FFD.static.pacific.net.au> has joined #libgdx[23:17:07] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:20:30] <ChaseWaylon> royal_screwup21: have you tried without android/assets/\[23:21:33] <royal_screwup21> figured it out, I need Gdx.files.local, instead of Gdx.files.internal - not sure why though[23:21:40] <royal_screwup21> it works[23:23:40] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!4e3dc5ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.61.197.238> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[23:25:24] *** cobolfoo <cobolfoo!~cobolfoo@modemcable234.250-70-69.static.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:25:36] *** SteamWells <SteamWells!sid79209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gutojybskzyqprqg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:25:47] *** SteamWells <SteamWells!sid79209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvcxkpojvnfejhaj> has joined #libgdx[23:28:25] *** dnyy <dnyy!sid134735@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aywbbuvfplgnwjve> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:28:26] *** james0x0A <james0x0A!sid118076@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xuwzkedqtdoesoal> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:30:55] *** dnyy <dnyy!sid134735@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vekmzmshmadamqcj> has joined #libgdx[23:30:56] *** james0x0A <james0x0A!sid118076@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tdgybzsbmgveptsa> has joined #libgdx[23:31:20] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has joined #libgdx[23:31:22] <Frotty> royal_screwup21: it will not work when u build the jar[23:31:28] <Frotty> chase was correct[23:34:04] <royal_screwup21> Frotty: hmm it throws "Exception in thread "LWJGL Application" com.badlogic.gdx.utils.GdxRuntimeException: File not found: /arial-15.fnt (Internal)" when I do it with internal, without android/assets/[23:42:52] <Frotty> then you havn't set your working directory royal_screwup21[23:47:29] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-73-101-93-10.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[23:47:43] <royal_screwup21> holy shit yes I didn't "git add/commit"[23:48:24] <royal_screwup21> My incompetence know no bounds