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[03:37:59] <DB219> Approaching 5K downloads!
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[03:48:53] <TEttinger> woo
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[03:52:02] <jayhost> woop woop
[03:57:09] <LiquidNitrogen> hnnnggggg
[03:57:09] <DB219> 4851
[03:57:34] <jayhost> You said it wasn't about the fame!
[03:58:22] <DB219> I lied
[03:58:39] <DB219> It is about fame...
[03:58:41] <DB219> and money
[03:58:48] <DB219> and chicks
[03:58:54] <jayhost> haha
[03:59:01] <DB219> money for nothing, chicks for free
[03:59:12] <DB219> I want my MTV
[03:59:41] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRcjmgxJEQ
[04:00:40] <SuckyNoob> im playing some guitar to this right now :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cchlCNlJUXw
[04:00:43] <SuckyNoob> I love the oldies tho
[04:01:18] <SuckyNoob> and having another dance with mary jane
[04:02:38] <DB219> surprised you know that song :)
[04:02:43] <SuckyNoob> :O
[04:02:58] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcY_enzwmI
[04:03:03] <SuckyNoob> which one
[04:03:05] <SuckyNoob> the oldies? lol
[04:03:12] <SuckyNoob> i call them oldies
[04:03:19] <SuckyNoob> Pink Floyd is my favourite
[04:03:32] <DB219> The Dire Straits one...
[04:03:37] <SuckyNoob> out of all bands new and old, that isnt pink floyd but its the same era
[04:03:49] <SuckyNoob> ya Dire straits are good
[04:03:55] <SuckyNoob> like 80s music too
[04:03:58] <DB219> Pink Floyd is awesome... I like most of them. Just heard Have a Cigar on the radio today...
[04:04:04] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY
[04:04:56] <DB219> Also, Supertramp. 'nuf said
[04:04:57] <SuckyNoob> lol, gotta have a bit of Breakin the law now and then
[04:04:58] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
[04:05:03] <SuckyNoob> supertramp ya I like them too
[04:05:42] <DB219> Did you know they had a video game sound effect in Logical Song? Towards the end, when he says "d-d-d-digital"
[04:05:56] <SuckyNoob> lol no
[04:06:05] <SuckyNoob> will check that now then
[04:06:18] <DB219> Apparently it was some soccer game they had in the studio and they were tired of always hearing it, so they decided to put it in the song.
[04:07:14] <SuckyNoob> I think this is my favourite pink floyd, still cant play along with it for the full song. No words, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7YMI39sObY. High Hopes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBM5vWiBLo that and
[04:07:20] <SuckyNoob> ah shit there are too many
[04:07:24] <SuckyNoob> Pigs on The Wing too
[04:07:39] <SuckyNoob> lol
[04:08:09] <SuckyNoob> threw it in there it was part of the mood while they were making the music :p
[04:08:50] <SuckyNoob> u arent that much older than me are you DB219?
[04:09:09] <SuckyNoob> ripe old 30 here
[04:09:27] <DB219> Yeah a bit older++
[04:09:39] <SuckyNoob> less than a decade?
[04:09:56] <DB219> no
[04:09:57] <DB219> :)
[04:09:59] <SuckyNoob> lol
[04:10:43] <SuckyNoob> honestly I think I like all music
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[04:10:52] <SuckyNoob> besides the stuff where they are screaming and I cant understand them
[04:11:06] <SuckyNoob> unless its done right and only for a tiny piece of the song lol
[04:11:24] <DB219> oh I have a good one, see if you can follow the lyrics...
[04:11:26] <SuckyNoob> oh and pop shit
[04:11:30] <SuckyNoob> cant handle that either
[04:11:39] <SuckyNoob> anything newer than 2005 really lol
[04:11:57] <SuckyNoob> besides the folky stuff since then, or alternative/indie, that stuffs alright
[04:12:13] <SuckyNoob> lol god please no
[04:12:17] <SuckyNoob> need my eardrums
[04:14:04] <SuckyNoob> is Have a Cigar the one about riding the gravy train?
[04:14:06] <SuckyNoob> or is that money
[04:14:28] <SuckyNoob> lol have u ever heard Careful With That Axe Eugene?
[04:14:41] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMpGdG27K9o
[04:14:46] <SuckyNoob> sweet guitar
[04:17:02] <DB219> damn I can't find it.. I thought it was from GWAR...
[04:17:44] <SuckyNoob> lol
[04:18:10] <LiquidNitrogen> gwar makes you really old
[04:19:30] <DB219> Jethro Tull's Aqualung is good too
[04:20:12] <SuckyNoob> well from what I looked up GWAR isnt as bad as most of the screamo stuff ive heard
[04:20:22] <SuckyNoob> ya Aqualung is one of my favourite songs
[04:20:30] <SuckyNoob> not sure why, its certainly not the lyrics
[04:20:34] <SuckyNoob> just how it plays out
[04:20:46] <DB219> They got another one with the flute.. Don't remember the name, too lazy to google it
[04:21:06] <SuckyNoob> love me some Cat Stevens too
[04:21:14] <SuckyNoob> or some Gerry Rafferty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU6w56epBdc
[04:22:16] <SuckyNoob> ah a simpler time
[04:22:24] <SuckyNoob> with less sophisticated mass surveillance
[04:22:31] <SuckyNoob> need a time machine to go back to the 60s
[04:23:52] <SuckyNoob> guess baker street is more late 70s tho lol
[04:26:29] <SuckyNoob> lol aqualung. I can play it perfectly on that guitar hero, no chance on a real guitar tho
[04:26:49] <SuckyNoob> what a song
[04:27:21] <DB219> Yeah me too, Rock Band I think
[04:27:33] <SuckyNoob> and of course the Who right?
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[04:28:44] <SuckyNoob> well that's good I haven't met anothere Canadian in a while that doesn't listen to absolute shit music
[04:28:52] <SuckyNoob> today is a good day
[04:29:38] <DB219> Rush
[04:29:50] <DB219> YYZ
[04:30:01] <SuckyNoob> ya RUsh
[04:30:04] <SuckyNoob> not sure about yyz
[04:30:06] <SuckyNoob> never heard that
[04:30:23] <DB219> It was on GH2 and/or Rock Band I think
[04:30:25] <SuckyNoob> These days I dont know why but I enjoy these female indie/alternative/folk artists
[04:30:30] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3AtRBlRQ-I
[04:30:38] <SuckyNoob> ill have to look it up
[04:30:47] <SuckyNoob> u like Matthew Good Band?
[04:30:54] <DB219> Yeah!
[04:31:02] <SuckyNoob> ya me too man my favourite artist for sure
[04:31:11] <SuckyNoob> no 1 im pretty sure
[04:31:28] <DB219> I like Hello Time Bomb
[04:31:44] <SuckyNoob> i have too many favourites lol possibly
[04:31:47] <DB219> I mostly agree about recent music being crap
[04:31:54] <DB219> but I like Radiohead...
[04:32:02] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwMni-2szU
[04:32:12] <SuckyNoob> i also like radiohead
[04:32:17] <SuckyNoob> annnd
[04:32:22] <SuckyNoob> shit who did californication
[04:32:30] <SuckyNoob> and the otherside
[04:32:33] <SuckyNoob> red hot chili peppers
[04:32:56] <DB219> Hehe yeah like them too
[04:33:11] <SuckyNoob> ya 21st century living from avalanche
[04:33:20] <SuckyNoob> and avalanche the song also from that album
[04:33:29] <SuckyNoob> they are all good really
[04:34:54] <SuckyNoob> ah shit and this one
[04:35:07] <SuckyNoob> its hard to find online on youtube they block it somehow for some reason
[04:37:45] <SuckyNoob> guess I cant unblock youtube anymore :O
[04:37:48] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Mfwg97sGU
[04:37:55] <SuckyNoob> the live version isnt as good i dont think
[04:38:38] <SuckyNoob> wish there were more canadian musicians like that these days. All crap music now
[04:38:59] <SuckyNoob> like i write guitar songs but none of that is worth shit without some words and a singer
[04:39:17] <SuckyNoob> couldnt compete with that either lol
[04:40:44] <LiquidNitrogen> songs with words are lame
[04:41:06] <SuckyNoob> I cant sing so I write my guitar songs like its someone singing haha
[04:41:10] <SuckyNoob> parts of them
[04:47:12] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgJQPO2xP34
[04:47:26] <SuckyNoob> alright im done posting songs, my bad
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[04:50:22] <jayhost> Liquid I gotta get a playlist from you sometime. Listening to some S P A C E TRIP II Chillwave whatever that means
[04:51:28] <SuckyNoob> nice
[04:51:35] <SuckyNoob> i just turned it on too
[04:51:36] <SuckyNoob> lol
[04:51:58] <jayhost> I think singing can be honed to a degree
[04:51:58] <SuckyNoob> time to put the guitar away and get back to coding with some of this.
[04:52:34] <jayhost> Yeah, YT has been recommending a bunch of "homework music". It's great tho
[04:52:39] <SuckyNoob> possibly id have to really try and dedicate myself I think
[04:52:55] <SuckyNoob> no time to dedicate to learning singing
[04:53:16] <SuckyNoob> and very little prospect of making any money at it
[04:53:58] <jayhost> Chasing music dream must be really awful
[04:54:09] <SuckyNoob> learning this programming is more than enough :I
[04:54:19] <SuckyNoob> I dunno, my mom did that
[04:54:23] <SuckyNoob> shes really good
[04:54:35] <jayhost> She tour singing?
[04:54:36] <SuckyNoob> can actually make crystal glasses oscillate lol
[04:54:53] <SuckyNoob> no she had kids and shit and gave up on that I guess
[04:54:54] <SuckyNoob> ll
[04:54:56] <SuckyNoob> err lol
[04:55:14] <SuckyNoob> went back to it later but she never really went for it hard enough i guess
[04:55:21] <SuckyNoob> didnt know the business ins and outs
[04:55:43] <SuckyNoob> and honestly unless youre going to sit down for a month its hard to get a grasp on the world out there, business wise
[04:56:13] <DB219> I think Physics Girl had a video where she actually shatters the glass
[04:56:18] <SuckyNoob> so i get it, but at the same time, i dunno. Unlike her I bury my dreams, if they come true they'll come true lol
[04:56:48] <SuckyNoob> i try and fill it with more practical shit. I guess making a game is sorta a dream, but it has far more chance of financial success than singing I think
[04:57:01] <SuckyNoob> who is physics girl
[04:57:18] <DB219> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7DdEm33SyaTDtWYGO2CwdA
[04:57:56] <SuckyNoob> that's weird she looks familiar
[04:58:38] <SuckyNoob> ah ok ive seen her before
[04:59:21] <SuckyNoob> ya she can do opera and such, i didnt know u could do it without training tho
[04:59:29] <SuckyNoob> the glass i mean
[05:00:30] <SuckyNoob> lol build a sphere around the sun
[05:00:35] <SuckyNoob> wtf
[05:02:16] <jayhost> Concentrate. SPACE TRIP II
[05:05:30] <DB219> SuckyNoob: That's a very popular concept in sci-fi (Dyson sphere/shell)
[05:05:43] <SuckyNoob> the materials required to build it would be insane
[05:06:38] <SuckyNoob> I think we as a species should focus as much as we can on quantum physics (from what I think I know)
[05:06:54] <SuckyNoob> so we can figure out how to teleport ourselves across the galaxy
[05:07:02] <SuckyNoob> faster than light
[05:07:12] <DB219> Still need energy
[05:07:24] <SuckyNoob> for sure
[05:07:57] <SuckyNoob> if you were going to make something like a dyson sphere I think what we'd want to do is figure out how to build a mini sun
[05:08:02] <SuckyNoob> like that spiderman movie
[05:08:04] <SuckyNoob> lol
[05:08:27] <SuckyNoob> so if its smaller u can build a smaller casing
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[05:08:34] <DB219> Best way to do that is to harness all the energy from the sun.. Achieve type 2 civilization on the Kardashev scale...
[05:08:34] <SuckyNoob> isnt that really just what fission is tho?
[05:08:38] <SuckyNoob> i guess we need fusion
[05:08:53] <DB219> I think the Borg in Star Trek were getting close to that
[05:08:57] <SuckyNoob> lol
[05:09:00] <LiquidNitrogen> well you could crash jupiter into saturn, and it probably would still be too small to fuse, but too big to build around.
[05:12:03] <SuckyNoob> one step to get us farther when it comes to energy I think would be to use the oceans water to produce Hydrogen gas, but we need a way to store it (which theyre getting close to doing)
[05:12:53] <SuckyNoob> cant rely on windmills etc. And having electric engines in everything like tesla cars is begging for disaster given the right circumstances. We need a combustable fuel that works in combustion engines thats clean
[05:13:03] <LiquidNitrogen> just store it in a hole in the ground. i know hydrogen is more sneaky but they do that with natural gas here, pump it back down a well to store it
[05:13:15] <SuckyNoob> hydrogen bleeds through everything
[05:13:23] <SuckyNoob> except Palladium/Platinum etc
[05:13:41] <SuckyNoob> supposedly palladium can hold 900x its volume of hydrogen
[05:13:50] <SuckyNoob> or 900x its mass in volume
[05:13:55] <SuckyNoob> of hydrogen cant remember
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[05:14:02] <LiquidNitrogen> if its used on a daily cycle, it wouldnt matter much if some is lost
[05:14:10] <SuckyNoob> or even 24/7
[05:14:14] <SuckyNoob> its just water
[05:14:19] <SuckyNoob> and its byproduct is water
[05:14:28] <SuckyNoob> which gets evaporated back into the natural system
[05:14:39] <LiquidNitrogen> well i imagine you need to use solar to split it in the first place
[05:15:27] <LiquidNitrogen> i think the main issue is that its pretty explosive, it would be very easy to have serious accidents
[05:15:43] <SuckyNoob> ya thats why if we can store it in a solid state
[05:15:54] <SuckyNoob> and only release it when it needs to go to the combustion chamber
[05:16:03] <SuckyNoob> that is
[05:16:06] <SuckyNoob> store the gas in a solid
[05:17:32] <SuckyNoob> it wont be combustable and is totally safe in that case
[05:17:39] <SuckyNoob> also hydrogen burns faster than gasoline
[05:17:52] <SuckyNoob> invisible but faster
[05:18:06] <LiquidNitrogen> yeah so it explodes worse
[05:18:07] <SuckyNoob> we can even store it conventionally
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[05:18:16] <SuckyNoob> just not as efficiently
[05:18:30] <SuckyNoob> especially if you throw in cryogencis and freeze the tanks
[05:18:32] <SuckyNoob> but ya
[05:18:37] <SuckyNoob> in that case super dangerous lol
[05:21:03] <SuckyNoob> https://www.gkn.com/en/our-technology/2016/hydrogen-storage/
[05:21:27] <SuckyNoob> havent looked into this specific company but they are claiming the same thing I saw in an article a few years ago
[05:29:41] <SuckyNoob> physics girl is kinda hot :O
[05:29:45] <SuckyNoob> oh shit can i say that
[05:30:04] <DB219> Sure
[05:30:12] <DB219> I like the other chick that makes crazy robots too
[05:30:20] <SuckyNoob> which ones that
[05:30:46] <SuckyNoob> hha
[05:30:50] <DB219> she's hilarious... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3KEoMzNz8eYnwBC34RaKCQ
[05:31:17] <SuckyNoob> lol think she needs to fix her breakfast robot
[05:31:24] <SuckyNoob> or like all of then
[05:31:26] <SuckyNoob> err them
[05:32:26] <SuckyNoob> lol look at the biceps on her
[05:32:36] <SuckyNoob> shes got big arms
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[05:38:34] <SuckyNoob> hmmm what is the definition of a robot
[05:38:44] <SuckyNoob> i can build a 3d printer or cnc machine lol
[05:38:56] <SuckyNoob> I guess the robotic arm would be the next step up
[05:39:36] <LiquidNitrogen> cluster of 3d printer drones with robotic arms
[05:40:02] <SuckyNoob> lol
[05:40:08] <SuckyNoob> no more jobs for anyone ever
[05:43:20] <LiquidNitrogen> thats probably close to feasible already
[05:43:35] <SuckyNoob> ah wish u had more data
[05:43:45] <SuckyNoob> would show u this video of robotic welders
[05:43:53] <SuckyNoob> welding like every piece of a car
[05:44:02] <SuckyNoob> and
[05:44:10] <SuckyNoob> reloading themselves and dipping their tips
[05:44:18] <SuckyNoob> which is trivial
[05:44:20] <SuckyNoob> but not really
[05:46:04] <SuckyNoob> trivial for me
[05:46:14] <SuckyNoob> for the robot not so much
[05:46:30] <SuckyNoob> i wonder what happens when they put the code in for them to learn when to do it
[05:46:40] <SuckyNoob> rather then being programmed when
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[05:48:26] <DB219> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio
[05:48:48] <SuckyNoob> oh shit I came up with ideas on how to take those things down
[05:48:53] <SuckyNoob> need a mini sabot
[05:49:02] <SuckyNoob> with an internalized EMP
[05:49:11] <SuckyNoob> lol
[05:49:31] <SuckyNoob> fuck thats scary
[05:50:05] <DB219> Yeah... Weaponize 10000 of those and drop them on the streets of North Korea and see what happens.
[05:50:18] <SuckyNoob> did u see the slaughterbots video lol
[05:50:30] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA
[05:50:53] <DB219> Yeah I saw that
[05:50:59] <SuckyNoob> cant ever defeat NK unless its total unreserved prejudice lol
[05:51:11] <DB219> There was a funny one on the news today
[05:51:12] <SuckyNoob> Literally would have to invade
[05:51:15] <DB219> flipped burgers
[05:51:35] <DB219> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVOfqunm5E
[05:51:49] <SuckyNoob> lol
[05:52:04] <SuckyNoob> there goes 40% of canadas workforce
[05:52:50] <SuckyNoob> oh man how all these people gonna buy burgers with no wages :P
[05:53:06] <DB219> lol
[05:53:33] <SuckyNoob> have you ever seen
[05:53:37] <SuckyNoob> The Animatrix
[05:53:49] <DB219> nope
[05:56:29] <SuckyNoob> ah man gotta watch that if u like the matrix trilogy
[05:57:37] <SuckyNoob> im only really a fan of the first, the last two coulda been done better imo
[05:58:13] <SuckyNoob> man after seeing all those burgers i kinda want one
[05:58:24] <SuckyNoob> no burger places open at this time of night :(
[05:59:46] <isdera> animatrix is awesome :P
[06:00:33] <SuckyNoob> ya it really is, touches on a bunch of stuff that the movies didnt
[06:00:51] <SuckyNoob> i put it up there with A Scanner Darkly, Naked Lunch, Videotron and Waking Life
[06:01:14] <SuckyNoob> one of the gotta see movies
[06:02:13] <SuckyNoob> theres this shw on Netflix based on a book series I think ill buy the book series
[06:02:19] <SuckyNoob> Altered Carbon
[06:03:23] <SuckyNoob> interesting somewhat original concept
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[07:03:10] <TEttinger> the animatrix is good yeah
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[09:15:51] <ChaseWaylon> heyall
[09:16:12] <ChaseWaylon> I get a black outline arround my sprite.how can I get rid of that? https://pasteboard.co/HaLC6ow.png
[09:17:42] <Tomski> Add bleed to transparent pixels via texture packer
[09:17:52] <Tomski> Or use premulitiplied alpha
[09:17:59] <ChaseWaylon> tried both, didnt help
[09:18:01] <Tomski> You have black transparent pixels, when you use linear filtering you are sampling those
[09:18:20] <ChaseWaylon> yeah i googled it and tried, but didnt help
[09:18:31] <Tomski> then you didnt implement the fixes correctly
[09:18:48] <ChaseWaylon> i checked
[09:19:05] <ChaseWaylon> i am sure i checked 'bleeding' and 'premulti alpha' checkboxes in texture packer correctly
[09:19:11] <ChaseWaylon> :)
[09:19:18] <Tomski> That doesnt mean you have implemented it correctly
[09:19:24] <ChaseWaylon> i know, that's why i am asking
[09:19:28] <Tomski> If you do both of those things, you dont have this problem
[09:19:34] <Tomski> so you havent done it correctly
[09:19:37] <Tomski> /s/both/either
[09:20:22] <Tomski> With premultipliy alpha you need a different blend mode, simply using that option wont help you
[09:20:43] <Tomski> With adding transparent bleeds, you should check the resulting pixels in photoshop
[09:20:52] <Tomski> They should be the same colour as your edges with 0 alpha
[09:20:55] <Tomski> Not 0,0,0,0
[09:22:06] <ChaseWaylon> trying
[09:25:30] <Tomski> Btw, that GUI texture packer is not official
[09:25:49] <ChaseWaylon> which one should i use?
[09:25:50] <Tomski> I dont know how up to date, or what features are working in that
[09:26:14] <Tomski> TexturePacker in gdx-tools package
[09:26:28] <Tomski> If you know that one is up to date with libgdx TexturePacker you can use that
[09:32:51] <ChaseWaylon> so which blend mode i should use with premultiply alpha?
[09:34:40] <Tomski> GL_ONE, GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA
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[09:38:39] <[AD]Turbo> ciao all
[09:46:32] <TEttinger> chow
[09:48:41] <TEttinger> ChaseWaylon: neither bleed nor premultiply alpha was checked in the screenshot you showed
[09:49:08] <TEttinger> I think the crashinvaders texture packer has been fine for me
[09:49:10] <ChaseWaylon> yes. but result was the same
[09:49:24] <TEttinger> it uses TexturePacker directly
[09:49:40] <ChaseWaylon> so i have to prepare images in gimp somehow first. and then pack them into atlas with premultiply checked?
[09:51:26] <TEttinger> https://github.com/crashinvaders/gdx-texture-packer-gui/issues/29
[09:51:39] <TEttinger> it seems like this may be an issu in their preview, maybe?
[09:54:47] <TEttinger> crashinvaders' texture packer GUI has been updated more recently than texture packer in libgdx, Tomski
[09:55:29] <ChaseWaylon> when i set premultiply alpha, black edges appear both in their preview and in PNG itself (i open it with gimp)
[09:55:37] <TEttinger> yes
[09:55:39] <ChaseWaylon> or you ment something else?
[09:55:43] <TEttinger> that seems correct
[09:55:43] <Tomski> TEttinger: sure, Im just saying i have no idea of the status. I only know that the official texturepacker works as intended
[09:56:10] <TEttinger> Tomski casts FUD -1! It fizzled.
[09:57:15] <ChaseWaylon> so what should I do?
[09:57:27] <TEttinger> so those black edges should be rendered as transparent (partially transparent) in a game if I understand this right
[09:57:39] <Tomski> TEttinger: if someone is having a problem with certain settings in an off official tool where I dont know if things are actually working, thats hardly fud
[09:57:41] <TEttinger> and Tomski gave the GL_ settings for that
[09:57:52] <ChaseWaylon> where do I apply those settings?
[09:58:24] <TEttinger> usually at the top of render(), around where clear screen stuff is
[10:08:28] <ChaseWaylon> not sure how to do that
[10:08:30] <ChaseWaylon> Gdx.gl.glBlendFunc(GL20.GL_ONE, GL20.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA);
[10:08:32] <ChaseWaylon> is this enough?
[10:08:48] <Tomski> batch.setBlendMode(GL20.GL_ONE, GL20.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPA);
[10:09:00] <Tomski> setBlendFunction*
[10:11:21] <ChaseWaylon> success!
[10:11:25] <ChaseWaylon> thank you so much
[10:11:33] <ChaseWaylon> stage.getBatch().setBlendFunction(GL20.GL_ONE, GL20.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA);
[10:11:45] <ChaseWaylon> worked
[10:13:01] <ChaseWaylon> it feels nice to overcome an obstacle
[10:13:06] <ChaseWaylon> and learn somethig
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[10:14:40] <ChaseWaylon> uhm.. ok the black edge is gone.. but now my freetype font is squares instead of symbols
[10:14:56] <Tomski> Freetype doesn't have pma support
[10:15:36] <ChaseWaylon> pma?
[10:16:00] <Tomski> Premultiplied alpha
[10:17:00] <Tomski> It has bleed support for normal rendering
[10:17:05] <ChaseWaylon> i wonder if i could setblendfunction to some actors, not all
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[10:19:45] <ChaseWaylon> or use another stage for non pma stuff
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[10:20:06] <ChaseWaylon> oh but then i cant group actors from different stages
[10:22:27] <ChaseWaylon> Tomski: could you offer any solution?
[10:22:38] <Tomski> Use bleed with normal blending
[10:25:45] <ChaseWaylon> instead of ppma
[10:25:49] <ChaseWaylon> ?
[10:27:16] <Tomski> yes
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[10:43:15] <ChaseWaylon> ok with bleeding edges become really blurry and there is still some black outline
[10:43:15] <ChaseWaylon> https://pasteboard.co/HaMalHe.png
[10:43:48] <Tomski> ChaseWaylon: bleed enabled, bleed iterations~6
[10:43:56] <Tomski> Higher iterations when downscaling
[10:45:12] <ChaseWaylon> it means bleed more pixels near edges?
[10:47:16] <ChaseWaylon> texture packer doesnt have iterations option
[10:47:24] <ChaseWaylon> i will have to use a command line one i guess
[10:47:58] <Tomski> Its the amount of iterations that are used in the bleeding algorithm
[10:48:07] <Tomski> Greater values give better results
[10:48:10] <Tomski> Especially when downscaling
[10:49:30] <ChaseWaylon> oh yeah there will be downscaling 2-3 times
[10:49:41] <ChaseWaylon> since i am using only 1 texture
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[13:04:52] <blahblah_> hello
[13:05:14] <Tomski> hello
[13:05:39] <blahblah_> in my project I have some PNGs representing black arrows, and I'm using this code to change the color of the pixmap arrows: https://pastebin.com/x0KmtbQQ
[13:07:17] <blahblah_> my problem is I get some remnants of black in the resulting image for the pixel that are not completely opaque. Any clue what's wrong with my code?
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[13:08:13] <blahblah_> I can upload a picture to show the problem if it can help
[13:10:19] <Tomski> sure
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[13:10:42] <LiquidNitro> sounds like the same problem heh
[13:11:50] <blahblah_> mmmh I'm confused, now it seems to work :o
[13:12:08] <blahblah_> guess eclipse failed to rebuild some class or so...
[13:12:25] <blahblah_> anyway is it the proper way to change color of a pixmap or do you know of a better way?
[13:12:26] <LiquidNitro> its good at doing that with asset files
[13:14:15] <blahblah_> mmm still the arrows seem mangled, let me show you
[13:19:04] <ChaseWaylon> rendered font (freetype) symbols look stretched and spaces between symbols not so great. look at the space between T and A: https://pasteboard.co/HaN9kZp.png
[13:19:43] <ChaseWaylon> any way to fix this?
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[13:21:24] <blahblah_> OK so it seems the transparency channel is completely ignored when changing colors: https://imgur.com/a/eJKEE
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[13:22:00] <blahblah_> Tomski: LiquidNitro: any clue?
[13:22:15] <LiquidNitro> blahblah_: i think theres a blend mode for drawing pixmap which you can change..?
[13:22:43] <Tomski> ChaseWaylon: use kerning
[13:23:05] <Tomski> blahblah_: are you saving this to file?
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[13:23:54] <blahblah_> Tomski: no
[13:24:01] <Tomski> How are you rendering this?
[13:25:18] <blahblah_> Tomski: I create somewhere a Texture out of this Pixmap, and then in the draw method of my component i do: batch.draw(arrowTexture, x, y);
[13:26:05] <Tomski> Id save it to file to debug this
[13:26:15] <blahblah_> which works fine if I don't change the color of the arrows, i.e. the semi-transparent pixels are rendered correctly
[13:26:18] <Tomski> You can be seeing other artifacting due to teexture filtering
[13:27:02] <blahblah_> ok let me try to save the picture to files
[13:39:04] <ChaseWaylon> looks like kerning is true by default and nothing changes
[13:40:37] <Tomski> Your font also needs to provide the correct kerning data
[13:42:13] <ChaseWaylon> seems like it provides kerning data just fine for inkscape where it looks good
[13:44:13] <Tomski> provide the font?
[13:44:20] <ChaseWaylon> just noticed something. kerning = true works in desktop app, but not android
[13:44:46] <ChaseWaylon> this font https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/liberation-sans
[13:49:02] <ChaseWaylon> yeah setting kerning true/false makes difference when i run app in desktop, but on android kerning is off no matter
[13:52:54] <Tomski> Are you scaling your font?
[13:54:00] <ChaseWaylon> yes
[13:54:13] <Tomski> By what values?
[13:55:12] <ChaseWaylon> 0.66667
[13:55:30] <ChaseWaylon> its dynamic. based on device resolution
[13:55:38] <ChaseWaylon> i turned scaling off, still no kerning :)
[13:55:52] <Tomski> In that case, try disabling integer positioning on your font
[13:56:09] <ChaseWaylon> tried that already, no impact
[13:56:50] <Tomski> Then you may have found a bug, make a single standalone barebones class that reproduces your problem and we can look into it
[13:59:39] <ChaseWaylon> i use it as label font. maybe something with label?
[14:00:21] <Tomski> Try using font directly and find out
[14:01:07] <ChaseWaylon> omg I just realised you are that Tomski
[14:01:09] <ChaseWaylon> :DD
[14:01:13] <ChaseWaylon> thanks man
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[14:10:26] <gerds0n> hey hey guys ;)
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[14:16:44] <Tomski> howdy
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[14:22:31] <deployed> hello everyone
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[14:47:58] <blahblah_> Tomski: OK i manage to change the colors of my arrows correctly by setting Blending.None on my pixmaps
[15:37:13] <Tomski> nice!
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[18:33:01] <royal_screwup21> what are some big no no's when writing a libgdx application? I've been reading the docs and I understand it's bad to instantiate an object every time in render() because of garbage collections issues. What are some other things to be wary of?
[18:33:52] <SuckyNoob> as far as I know its more optimal to use GDX's versions of arrays and maps
[18:34:04] <SuckyNoob> um let me think from what ive learned so far besides that
[18:34:11] <royal_screwup21> thanks yup came across that too
[18:34:44] <SuckyNoob> sorry
[18:34:47] <SuckyNoob> collections
[18:34:51] <SuckyNoob> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Collections
[18:35:08] <SuckyNoob> if your making android stuff
[18:35:20] <SuckyNoob> gotta put your assets in android/assets instead of core/assets I believe?
[18:36:01] <SuckyNoob> honestly im not sure what to watch for other than the boxing/unboxing the "collections" post talks about
[18:36:17] <royal_screwup21> thanks for the input SuckyNoob
[18:36:31] <Tomski> royal_screwup21: avoid new in render completely. Always share textures where possible
[18:36:46] <royal_screwup21> ah good call
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[19:27:03] <ChaseWaylon> Tomski: please take a look at this, no kerning on android: https://pasteboard.co/HaPByFm.png
[19:28:28] <Tomski> ChaseWaylon: can you submit an issue onn the tracker with the template filled out fully
[19:32:52] <ChaseWaylon> i can, but i think it's more likely I am doing something wrong, not the bug thing :)) since i am a beginner
[19:34:00] <Tomski> That sample looks fine
[19:39:39] <SuckyNoob> i see where the top picture the A's left side is more under the T
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[19:39:47] <SuckyNoob> which picture is the program running?
[19:39:59] <SuckyNoob> of the 2
[19:40:13] <ChaseWaylon> upper is desktop app
[19:40:20] <ChaseWaylon> lower is android screenshot
[19:40:22] <SuckyNoob> oh ok
[19:40:33] <SuckyNoob> it looks good on the bottom one
[19:40:33] <ChaseWaylon> desktop kerning looks ok
[19:40:42] <SuckyNoob> oh i thought kerning was the other way around
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[19:52:28] <SuckyNoob> there is a truncate parameter in one of that draws but im not sure what that'd actually do? Just shorten the end?
[19:52:36] <SuckyNoob> one of the draws for font.
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[19:58:14] <ChaseWaylon> i will test with some old libgdx version
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[20:04:05] <TEttinger> I'd suggest he try with some known kerning combination, like Yo
[20:04:30] <TEttinger> or Tr
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[21:22:52] <myke> TEttinger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQTr2Xmlz0
[21:23:42] <TEttinger> yeah... I tried to implement it and failed. it's a lot harder without lambdas
[21:27:26] <SuckyNoob> cool
[21:27:50] <SuckyNoob> I want to see something grow an isometric tree differently every time
[21:27:56] <SuckyNoob> wonder what it takes to learn that shit
[21:28:16] <SuckyNoob> just "procedural generation" in general?
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[21:28:40] <SuckyNoob> would be where to start im guessing?
[21:30:05] <SuckyNoob> i guess maybe thats not practical for a game tho
[21:30:17] <SuckyNoob> if they were all different growing in real time
[21:33:49] <TEttinger> trees are really hard.
[21:34:59] <SuckyNoob> ya i can imagine ive seen a 3D procedural tree maker
[21:35:11] <SuckyNoob> looks pretty complicateed
[21:35:19] <SuckyNoob> like whatever is going on behind the scenes
[21:37:21] <SuckyNoob> this ones pretty sweet
[21:37:23] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDgrfwdKXLM
[21:37:49] <SuckyNoob> just replace those green blobs with some billboards or decals maybe, covered in leaves textures?
[21:38:29] <SuckyNoob> ive seen nicer looking ones tho
[21:41:31] <jayhost> replace the stump of the tree with a deer instead, Antler Jousting
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[21:43:45] <SuckyNoob> lol
[21:45:10] <SuckyNoob> this is pretty cool
[21:45:13] <SuckyNoob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An-k7Mx3xVc
[21:46:54] <taharqa> hello o/ I just finish the first step of the tutorial on the github wiki. Everything is ok but I have no sound
[21:46:59] <taharqa> what can I check
[21:47:00] <SuckyNoob> lol the scanner to scan those trees would be a fortune tho
[21:48:59] <SuckyNoob> do you have the dropSound.play() in the if(raindrop.overlaps(bucket)) { statement?
[21:50:54] <SuckyNoob> and create the dropSound?
[21:54:28] <taharqa> SuckyNoob: let me check this
[21:55:36] <taharqa> SuckyNoob: yes. even "rainMusic.play();" does not play
[21:55:48] <SuckyNoob> and the files are in the core/assets?
[21:55:55] <taharqa> perhaps it is because I'm running inside eclipse
[21:55:56] <SuckyNoob> and u have your working directory set to that im guessing
[21:56:00] <taharqa> yes
[21:56:02] <SuckyNoob> hmm
[21:56:13] <SuckyNoob> not sure why it wouldnt work
[21:56:39] <taharqa> yes just before I had an error saying wrong filename then fix it so i'm sure everything is ok
[21:56:45] <taharqa> not ok but read
[21:57:49] <SuckyNoob> perhaps your system sound is turned down for GDX apps?
[21:57:55] <SuckyNoob> in the mixer lol
[21:58:01] <SuckyNoob> ive done that before
[21:59:07] <taharqa> uh let me check this
[22:03:24] <SuckyNoob> like your windows sound mixer i mean
[22:03:31] <SuckyNoob> or mac whichever
[22:05:32] <taharqa> archlinux/gnome
[22:05:49] <taharqa> mhh let me generate a jar to test this out of eclipse
[22:06:10] <taharqa> what is the gradle command to generate a jar, I'm more familiar with maven
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[22:24:57] <SuckyNoob> uh
[22:25:04] <SuckyNoob> cant remember
[22:25:11] <SuckyNoob> i use the ide
[22:26:57] <jayhost> desktop:dist
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[22:51:15] <taharqa> jayhost: let me try this
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[23:32:03] <taharqa> jayhost: thank you it works
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[23:36:13] <jayhost> :D
[23:36:27] <taharqa> but no sound :'(
[23:40:29] <SuckyNoob> hmm
[23:44:24] <jayhost> No sound on what? Which project
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