March 6, 2018 
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March 6, 2018 [00:00:10] <samort7> Tettinger: wow, that's dirty[00:00:12] <Tomski> You'll have to persuade mario to let us change it[00:00:31] <TEttinger> is mario badlogic?[00:01:01] <samort7> TEttinger: Yea - https://twitter.com/badlogicgames[00:01:25] <TEttinger> zechner![00:01:52] <samort7> "The Zech"[00:03:02] <LiquidNitrogen> a lot of forum type things end up like that, broken links and missing images[00:04:27] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:29] <samort7> Yea. There's a lot of games I can think that really do well to show off the framework[00:04:39] <samort7> http://store.steampowered.com/app/396480/Battlevoid_Harbinger/[00:05:41] <Tomski> Last time I had a conversation about it, the reason for not doing it was to give some people priority over others[00:07:00] <samort7> http://store.steampowered.com/app/249630/Delver/ | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orangepixel.spacegrunts&hl=en | http://store.steampowered.com/app/625740/Rifter/[00:07:09] <samort7> Those would all be great candidates for front-page spotlight[00:07:13] <LiquidNitrogen> giving successful games priority on the libgdx showcase isnt going to hurt the discoverability of someones flappybird clone[00:07:24] <samort7> LiquidNitrogen: too true[00:07:27] <Tomski> LiquidNitrogen: its not my opinion[00:07:57] <samort7> I really want to see the framework to grow. It has so much to offer, but its gotta be presented in a way that's appealing[00:08:33] <samort7> Especially when it's doesn't have a fancy UI like GameMaker, Unity, etc.[00:15:58] *** rovi <rovi!~rovi@81.196.220.135> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:16:54] <Tomski> Best bet is for someone to just make it, do a good job and show it off[00:20:00] <jayhost> Priority!!!!!! I smell corruption[00:34:57] <samort7> +1[00:35:05] *** samort7 <samort7!~samort7@209.65.164.27> has quit IRC ()[00:35:23] <jayhost> lol /sarcasm oops[01:03:02] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d729545@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.69> has joined #libgdx[01:03:43] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-92-178.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:06:32] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egjsambebhrtpdrh> has joined #libgdx[03:07:40] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-109.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[03:41:12] *** DB219 <DB219!415efff8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.94.255.248> has joined #libgdx[03:43:41] *** new <new!~qaajkftv@181.68.0.232> has joined #libgdx[03:43:48] <new> I'm looking for Japanese 8-bit English font, some idea?[03:43:56] <new> im new[03:45:19] <jayhost> sorry you have to have subscription[03:46:10] <new> ok ty[03:50:18] <SuckyNoob> all hail new![03:50:29] <SuckyNoob> *sprinkles dust on head*[03:52:38] <jayhost> *poors diet coke in mouth* This is a hazing[03:52:43] <SuckyNoob> lol[03:54:28] <SuckyNoob> hmm need to think of things similar to the idea of Goblin Tribes, and Bandit clans[03:54:49] <SuckyNoob> semi organized groups of monsters/enemies[03:57:04] <jayhost> new you can find different solutions. It's not something I've done. https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/issues/1589 https://web.archive.org/web/20170501220235/http://www.cocos2d-x.org/wiki/Text_Labels[03:58:54] <jayhost> SuckyNoob here's a tweet I made, it's a pretty stupid joke. https://twitter.com/JadenHorst/status/953166510637375488[03:59:12] <TEttinger> new: I've made some distance field font versions, I'd check fontstruct[04:00:35] <SuckyNoob> i like them lol[04:00:45] <SuckyNoob> those for the game youre making?[04:01:00] <jayhost> It's from the original spelunky, I have a half assed clone of the game made in libgdx[04:02:10] <TEttinger> this one has katakana https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/157866/pureprog_12_5x8_pixel_mono_normal[04:02:12] <SuckyNoob> oh ive never played that[04:02:32] <jayhost> you can play original here http://tinysubversions.com/game/spelunky/[04:03:28] <SuckyNoob> cool ill check it out later[04:03:33] <SuckyNoob> made with game maker eh[04:03:47] <SuckyNoob> i never did try game maker[04:04:02] <SuckyNoob> wouldnt want to spend 100$ on something I most likely wont use th[04:04:41] <SuckyNoob> not sure if its the same company but when I was a kid I had a floppy disk and the software was called Game Maker, for DOS[04:04:43] <jayhost> Me either. Game Maker Studio is free and there is a port of Spelunky to it. Also there is an open source version of GameMaker 8 or whatever the original spelunk was made in[04:05:54] <SuckyNoob> oh i didnt know it was free[04:05:55] <jayhost> Good question. Turns out it's not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaker[04:06:14] <jayhost> To previous. Game Maker Studio is ffree[04:06:37] <SuckyNoob> this is the one[04:06:38] <SuckyNoob> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game-Maker[04:06:57] <SuckyNoob> lol i had no clue what i was doing tho[04:07:56] <jayhost> Same. Game maker (new) is pretty lame imo but people have been successful with it. It's basically just attaching .GM scripts to all the different entities[04:08:50] <SuckyNoob> ya im not so good with that scripting stuff[04:08:54] <SuckyNoob> or dynamically typed[04:08:58] <SuckyNoob> like with godot[04:09:19] <SuckyNoob> i cant follow what im doing without scope brackets etc {}[04:09:20] <SuckyNoob> lol[04:10:30] <jayhost> GM scripts are scoped actually[04:12:19] <SuckyNoob> oh[04:12:40] <SuckyNoob> well maybe eventually ill buy the 99$ version and try it out[04:12:50] <SuckyNoob> if i have extra money[04:12:51] <jayhost> lol no[04:13:25] <SuckyNoob> lol[04:13:47] <SuckyNoob> hmm this is hard[04:14:02] <SuckyNoob> only got Ogre Bands/Band of Ogres on top of the other two[04:17:10] <SuckyNoob> vampire covens[04:17:17] <SuckyNoob> lol[04:18:13] <jayhost> Throw in all the cliches[04:19:21] <SuckyNoob> lol ya whers a big list of them[04:19:26] <SuckyNoob> tvtrops is all kinda broken up[04:20:05] <SuckyNoob> ah wait im going about it the wrong way[04:20:19] <SuckyNoob> I just need to find a list of words like band and clan etc and then match them with creatures[04:24:26] <SuckyNoob> oodles lol[04:24:33] <SuckyNoob> Oodles of Ogres[04:44:29] <jayhost> lol ya[04:47:42] <jayhost> Tet probably has a spreadsheet somewhere but this will do for now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legendary_creatures_by_type[04:50:49] *** new <new!~qaajkftv@181.68.0.232> has quit IRC (Quit: exit)[04:51:17] <SuckyNoob> ah ya thats a good list[04:51:29] <SuckyNoob> used the thesaurus too[05:31:39] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-svdzzzcheozezfni> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:33:36] <TEttinger> mwahaha[05:33:51] <TEttinger> coveys of hags[05:34:08] <TEttinger> clutches of hatchlings[05:34:20] <TEttinger> flocks of harpies[05:35:10] <TEttinger> good (weird) creatures: aitvaras, peryton, baku, penanggalan, mbolo-mbembe[05:35:56] <TEttinger> all of H.P. Lovecraft's original work is in public domain in US[05:36:08] <TEttinger> since he's long dead[05:36:22] <TEttinger> some other authors wrote key parts (hastur), so that isn't PD[05:36:50] <jayhost> Ahh it's a Morgen of Succubi[05:37:05] <TEttinger> harem or orgy of succubi[05:37:26] <jayhost> lol[05:38:11] <SuckyNoob> lol[05:38:43] <TEttinger> all succubi turn out to be lesbians who are primarily interested in equality before demon law. summoning multiple succubi always summons some that are already scissoring though, not that effective[05:38:53] <TEttinger> I mean, effective at some thingss[05:38:58] <SuckyNoob> haha[05:39:42] <TEttinger> similarly, all incubi are gay and really like magic leather armor[05:40:05] *** DB219 <DB219!415efff8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.94.255.248> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:40:07] <SuckyNoob> lol[05:41:47] <TEttinger> if you want thith ultimate leather +99 armor of all-rethithtanthe, babe, I'm gonna need you to thign your thoul over to me. them'th the breakth![05:42:30] <TEttinger> it looks like a single pair of assless chaps, but the stats do indeed indicate that it resists everything[05:42:54] <SuckyNoob> haha[05:43:10] <SuckyNoob> aha[05:45:38] *** zortness <zortness!~zortness@cpe-23-241-196-37.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[05:54:39] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d729545@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.69> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:23:08] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[06:41:33] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:f15b:90f:1203:4e87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:12:30] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-199-109.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:21:18] *** Veridia <Veridia!uid282413@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qcjrnjgypozapvzf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:16:13] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@191.17.28.249> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:30:03] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has joined #libgdx[08:48:06] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[08:52:36] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-93-157.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[09:20:37] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has quit IRC ()[09:22:03] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has joined #libgdx[09:22:23] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:23:23] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has joined #libgdx[09:24:03] <TEttinger> how goes forest living, LiquidNitrogen?[09:25:31] <LiquidNitrogen> red alert! bear attack![09:25:37] <LiquidNitrogen> man the cannons![09:28:24] <TEttinger> bear vs. tiger http://digg.com/video/sloth-bear-vs-tiger[09:39:21] <LiquidNitrogen> minecraft villagers look like squidward[09:45:17] *** guardianx <guardianx!~guardian@121-200-16-123.cust.aussiebb.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:46:48] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-211-54.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has joined #libgdx[09:47:06] *** royal_screwup21 <royal_screwup21!89de72f3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.137.222.114.243> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:47:11] <[AD]Turbo> hi there[09:50:47] <bomb> hi[09:53:28] <jayhost> heyo[09:55:51] <TEttinger> well, great googly boogly, wow. 130435 seconds later, this RNG passes with no failures and no anomalies[09:56:04] <TEttinger> that's never happened to me once[09:56:08] <TEttinger> now it has[10:03:05] *** codi^r <codi^r!~codi@ip4d179e3d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:03:56] <LiquidNitrogen> that calls for a celebration[10:10:30] *** codi^r <codi^r!~codi@ip4d179e3d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[10:18:01] <TEttinger> public static long determine(long s) { return (s = (s = ((s *= 0x6C8E9CF970932BD5L) ^ s >>> 25) * 0x2545F4914F6CDD1DL) ^ ((s << 19) | (s >>> 45)) ^ ((s << 53) | (s >>> 11))) ^ s >>> 25; }[10:18:05] <TEttinger> yes it does[10:18:46] <TEttinger> I imagine this thing is slow as molasses without hotspot kicking it in the pants[10:19:26] <TEttinger> but there are two sections in there that look slow but JIT to one intel assembly instruction (also present on AMD)[10:32:26] *** ChaseWaylon <ChaseWaylon!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has joined #libgdx[10:34:50] <ChaseWaylon> how can i set no filters for texture atlas?[10:35:35] <TEttinger> how are you making the texture atlas?[10:35:50] <ChaseWaylon> if i prepare images same rez as device screen and set filter: Nearest, Nearest image gets pixelated[10:36:01] <ChaseWaylon> with GDX texture packer[10:36:02] <TEttinger> nearest is no filter[10:36:27] <TEttinger> you have a high DPI phone.[10:36:37] <Tomski> You always have texturing, there is no option for no filter[10:36:43] <ChaseWaylon> no, image is 225px width and it takes 225px on screen pixels[10:36:46] <ChaseWaylon> still gets pixelated[10:36:46] <Tomski> texture filtering*[10:37:09] <TEttinger> what phone...[10:37:18] <ChaseWaylon> phone rez 720x1280[10:37:33] <TEttinger> what phone model/manufacturer...[10:37:37] <ChaseWaylon> note 2[10:37:44] <ChaseWaylon> samsung galaxy note2[10:38:13] <ChaseWaylon> what i am trying to say. filters are min, mag . what if texture doesnt need minification nor magnification?[10:38:33] <ChaseWaylon> why it still changes and looks different from original image[10:38:54] <Tomski> because you dont draw pixels[10:39:06] <ChaseWaylon> what do you mean?[10:39:49] <Tomski> Opengl isnt in the drawing 2d grid of pixels game[10:40:33] <TEttinger> it should look a little less than one inch wide, that phone has 267 ppi. you're probably drawing at some larger size, or skewed/rotated somehow, or just not at an integer position[10:40:38] <Tomski> In the case of spritebatch, it draws triangles and samples texels (differently depending on filtering mode) to find the appropriate colour for fragment[10:40:55] <Tomski> Perhaps take a screenshot on your phone and upload it?[10:41:18] <TEttinger> normally it's pressing both buttons on opposite sides[10:41:28] <Tomski> If you are drawing at a fake pixel perfect perspective, you shouldnt see any artifacting[10:41:40] <TEttinger> notsure if note 2 is different for screenshot[10:41:59] <TEttinger> also post original image[10:42:02] <Tomski> Power button and home button apparently[10:42:36] <ChaseWaylon> it looks like a mag filter is applied, when i change mag to Linear it comes out ok[10:42:52] <ChaseWaylon> i will make screenshots after lunch :) see ya[10:42:58] <ChaseWaylon> and thanks[10:43:01] <TEttinger> then you are drawing at a larger size[10:43:12] <ChaseWaylon> i am drawing at same size exactly as original img[10:43:20] <TEttinger> not if mag does anything[10:43:57] <TEttinger> there may be something in the lib code or on that phone's hardware[10:44:37] <TEttinger> many phones (almost all iPhones) will use a fake low resolution and internally use a superhigh resolution[10:46:02] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b98a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.185.138> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[10:47:31] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b98a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.185.138> has joined #libgdx[11:35:22] *** Ashiren <Ashiren!~Ashiren@host-62-61-44-66.dynamic.mm.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:35:41] *** Ashiren <Ashiren!~Ashiren@host-62-61-44-66.dynamic.mm.pl> has joined #libgdx[11:35:55] *** wheeler <wheeler!3efd5782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.253.87.130> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:54:01] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD66200F0E1C1AD0E16F6CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:17:58] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@92.154.69.235> has joined #libgdx[12:54:02] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[13:06:32] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-93-157.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:11:47] *** zephyz_ <zephyz_!~zephyz@bbcs-103-168.pub.wingo.ch> has joined #libgdx[13:20:48] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[13:22:59] *** ChaseWaylon_ <ChaseWaylon_!5877cfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.119.207.197> has joined #libgdx[13:24:54] <ChaseWaylon_> batch.draw(btnBlue); inside actor class and Image blueBtn = new Image(btnBlue); both put texture region on screen, but Image is blurry[13:25:06] <ChaseWaylon_> what makes the difference?[13:27:07] <ChaseWaylon_> oh nevermind, I had different texture atlases lol[13:50:08] *** wheeler <wheeler!3efd5782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.253.87.130> has joined #libgdx[13:50:18] <wheeler> quick help on mac OS suitability[13:50:19] <wheeler> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F263521208385[13:50:27] <wheeler> I just won this, kind of accidentally[13:50:38] <wheeler> I was trialling out a sniper app[13:50:53] <wheeler> my situation is that I so far have only written my games for android[13:51:04] <wheeler> and I know eventually, to release on iOS I'll need a mac[13:51:19] <wheeler> so I was thinking of using a little mac mini just to compile and test on[13:51:31] <wheeler> however, I didn't really scan this one properly, and it's from 2010![13:51:40] <wheeler> would it be powerful enough to do the job?[13:52:06] <wheeler> I would be doing all the actual main coding on my ubuntu laptop(s) which are only a year or so old and are powerful enough[13:52:39] <wheeler> I basically need to know, should I buy this, or should I be a dick and back out of the eBay auction (we can discuss the ethics of that at a later date!)[13:55:50] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@92.154.69.235> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:02:29] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:02:31] *** mattie_ <mattie_!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[14:03:11] *** Agnel <Agnel!1b0403b9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.27.4.3.185> has joined #libgdx[14:04:50] <Agnel> Ashiren![14:04:54] <Agnel> you there?[14:05:10] *** skizye <skizye!~jtbeckha@rrcs-70-60-104-210.midsouth.biz.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[14:08:40] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@92.154.69.235> has joined #libgdx[14:08:41] <Ashiren> hm?[14:09:48] <Agnel> I got the particle effect to work. But the strange thing is with the delta time. I changed the clear screen to black to see if the effect actually appeared (since the effect color was similar to the background) and it does. But only for a split second. I also noticed that the animation was playing way too fast. I decided to slow it down and see if[14:09:48] <Agnel> i can see the effect. I tried dividing the delta time by a 1000 and wouldn't you know it played just fine and a bit slower than desired. I'm not sure what is causing this. 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I can just clear the depth buffer right before drawing, seems to work[17:10:55] <SuckyNoob> it has a Z or depth doesnt it[17:10:58] <SuckyNoob> ah ok[17:11:16] <SuckyNoob> i figured couldnt you just sort it to the top z?[17:11:47] <isdera> probably but I'm not sure how to do that[17:12:01] <SuckyNoob> ah ur working in 3D right[17:12:47] <isdera> yass :][17:13:49] <SuckyNoob> there is also this[17:13:49] <SuckyNoob> http://badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12445[17:14:20] <SuckyNoob> the second post down explains about a CAmerGroupStrategy or something. Ive never done any of this I just remember reading them before[17:16:30] <SuckyNoob> third post down that is[17:21:38] *** ecv <ecv!d4a9b98a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.169.185.138> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:24:40] <SuckyNoob> and this https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/tests/gdx-tests/src/com/badlogic/gdx/tests/SimpleDecalTest.java[17:36:27] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@rrcs-24-97-52-35.nys.biz.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:37:30] *** bhldev <bhldev!~bhldev@69-165-248-89.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #libgdx[17:40:39] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:40:40] *** bhldev_ <bhldev_!~bhldev@69-165-248-89.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:48:14] *** jaagr <jaagr!~jaagr@2-249-127-195-no288.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #libgdx[17:50:07] *** jaagr <jaagr!~jaagr@2-249-127-195-no288.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:50:07] *** jaagr <jaagr!~jaagr@unaffiliated/jaagr> has joined #libgdx[17:58:23] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-211-54.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC ()[18:05:47] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[18:11:02] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:23:17] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@92.154.69.235> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:26:06] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egjsambebhrtpdrh> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:26:48] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[18:26:51] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689FCD.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[18:26:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[18:35:58] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:f15b:90f:1203:4e87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:00:03] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[19:19:10] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d20:5a9:f15b:90f:1203:4e87> has joined #libgdx[20:00:24] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d729545@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.69> has joined #libgdx[20:39:25] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[20:41:20] *** loosik <loosik!~loosik@unaffiliated/loosik> has joined #libgdx[20:42:32] <loosik> I think I've encountered a bug with gdx-freetype :<[20:43:25] <loosik> using .incremenetal = true with the FreeTypeFontGenerator[20:43:50] <loosik> ignores the color value for anything beside auto-generated characters from .characters[20:44:09] <loosik> the dynamic generated ones are getting added as white font color[20:44:13] <loosik> unless I'm missing something[20:44:53] <loosik> https://i.imgur.com/0ndsElT.png[20:45:19] <loosik> I've added two characters to the param.characters to test it[20:45:24] <loosik> and they render fine then[21:05:28] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD66200A4BCA91FE6384EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[21:10:07] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:20:18] <SuckyNoob> hmm I use the Heiro program to pregenerate fonts, sorry man. I haven't used the freetype yet.[21:37:53] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:40:14] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[21:59:47] <loosik> SuckyNoob i found the issue...[21:59:58] <SuckyNoob> what was it?[22:00:08] <loosik> FreeTypeFontParameter has color param in it[22:00:11] <SuckyNoob> im just curious lol might help me in the future[22:00:12] <SuckyNoob> oh i see[22:00:14] <loosik> but[22:00:18] <loosik> I was using it wrong[22:00:32] <loosik> coz it references Color.WHITE as default ( and not new Color )[22:00:49] <loosik> so I did param.color.set(...)[22:00:51] <SuckyNoob> so you gotta just set Color.[22:01:00] <loosik> which in fact set the colors STATIC COlor.White[22:01:09] <loosik> and later loaded fonts were setting that to new value[22:01:16] <loosik> but same reference point for all fonts[22:01:36] <loosik> so actuall way to do it is param.color = new Color( ... );[22:01:48] <loosik> man been a while since something tilted me so much lol[22:01:55] <SuckyNoob> ah ok cool thx for explaining it to me[22:02:02] <loosik> I couldn't find what was causing for like 2hours[22:02:17] <SuckyNoob> Why is it people use the freetype again?[22:02:28] <SuckyNoob> to be able to set the font based on resolution?[22:02:35] <loosik> That along many other things[22:02:39] <loosik> In my case[22:02:43] <SuckyNoob> what other things sorry[22:02:47] <loosik> its chinesee, japanese support[22:02:59] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689FCD.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:03:04] <loosik> if you do hiero stuff or bitmapfont in general[22:03:10] <loosik> you can end up with ALOT of texture pages[22:03:14] <loosik> if you include CJK[22:03:29] <loosik> and FreeTypeFont not only allows you to dynamicly create fonts[22:03:34] <loosik> but also have incremenetal loading[22:03:45] <loosik> meaning as you type, you get Glyphs populated into your texture atlas[22:03:49] <SuckyNoob> what would the incremental loading before[22:03:50] <SuckyNoob> oh[22:04:09] <loosik> its pretty neat feature overall imo[22:04:23] <SuckyNoob> be* for[22:04:40] <loosik> And the only right way to support other languages properly without flooding your bitmapfonts with a lot of texture data[22:04:48] <SuckyNoob> im going to need to learn how to use it[22:05:02] <loosik> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Gdx-freetype[22:05:04] <SuckyNoob> other languages as in other localizations?[22:05:46] <loosik> other languages as in any other characters besides latin[22:05:53] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:06:50] <loosik> a BASIC implementation of Chineese, and japanese with like still relatively small size[22:07:00] <loosik> costed me like 30 of 1024x1024 textures[22:07:22] <SuckyNoob> how did u get it translated?[22:07:49] <loosik> community driven translation :P[22:07:51] <SuckyNoob> or do you already speak/write them[22:07:54] <loosik> nah[22:07:56] <SuckyNoob> interesting[22:08:27] *** new <new!~qaajkftv@181.68.5.172> has joined #libgdx[22:08:42] <new> parent version?[22:09:46] <loosik> Tomski I would highly suggest FreeTypeFontParameter would use Color.WHITE.cpy() rather than static reference :U[22:09:59] <loosik> similarry how it does with shadow color right now[22:10:14] <new> 1.9.8 or 1.9.6?[22:10:27] <Tomski> I think there are a few instances where these are used elsewhere loosik[22:10:36] <Tomski> Im afraid its just one of those gotchas[22:10:42] <loosik> mm[22:10:45] <Tomski> There is lengthy discussion about it on theissue tracker[22:10:50] <loosik> i see[22:11:16] <Tomski> new: 19.8[22:11:18] <Tomski> 1.9.8[22:11:33] <new> ok thanks[22:11:34] <loosik> It's just you wouldn't expect a static reference there if even every example in wiki states to do new FreeTypeFontParameter();[22:11:44] <loosik> so then you do param.color.set( ); and get rekt :D[22:11:46] <loosik> like me[22:12:11] <loosik> although wiki has the class print there, I just missed it there[22:12:15] <loosik> that it might be that[22:12:39] <new> Why do sounds produce lag?[22:12:51] <Tomski> loosik: ah, i see what you are talking about[22:12:55] <Tomski> Yes, i would agree with that[22:13:13] <Tomski> feel free to PR :)[22:13:40] <loosik> new: are you running sounds in opengl context or something?[22:13:40] <Tomski> new: extra processing power is required, if you are already hitting a bottleneck you will be making things worse[22:14:00] <Tomski> That said, you generally shouldnt have any problems at all, unless you are running on some ancient hardware[22:14:48] <new> loosik no[22:16:09] <new> Tomski quuad core 1,2[22:16:36] <new> low quality graphics and sounds[22:17:07] <Tomski> And when you say lag, what are you talking about here?[22:17:18] <new> delay[22:17:27] <new> fps[22:17:31] <Tomski> delay or fps?[22:17:35] <new> fps[22:17:42] <Tomski> How are you determining this?[22:17:53] <new> 60 fps normal[22:18:01] <new> 40 fps delay[22:18:41] <new> sorry im new[22:18:46] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:18:46] <SuckyNoob> lol[22:19:01] <Tomski> This is when you play a single sound?[22:19:56] <new> but i am xD[22:20:38] <new> if, for example, jump sound[22:20:41] <new> yes[22:20:45] <new> *[22:21:41] <new> try mp3 and ogg sounds in mono and stay the same[22:22:10] <Tomski> Just one single jump sound is making you drop to 40fps?[22:23:26] <Tomski> can you use pastebin.com and show your code/[22:23:26] <new> yes sometimes :([22:24:03] <new> I'm not on my pc at this time :([22:24:35] <loosik> generally you probably want to run sound in separate thread[22:24:49] <loosik> but yeah piece of code would help[22:24:52] <Tomski> This is already handled through libgdx[22:25:06] <loosik> oh[22:26:17] <new> try with assetmanager and Sound and follow the same :([22:26:31] <Tomski> are you loading this at the time of playing?[22:26:46] <new> with Sound I improve a little[22:26:59] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[22:27:44] <new> before I loaded everything in the beginning, and now I charge everything in each world[22:28:28] <Tomski> you should use Sound, and have them loaded in memory before playing them[22:29:15] <new> that's what I'm doing[22:29:20] <new> :([22:29:27] <Tomski> will need code samples[22:29:33] <Tomski> and you should be able to reproduce this in a minimal sample[22:31:18] <new> ok when this on my pc I will show you my code[22:31:25] <new> thanks[22:40:03] *** new <new!~qaajkftv@181.68.5.172> has left #libgdx ("exit")[22:48:25] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-79-60-123.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[22:49:00] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-87-79-60-123.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:49:11] <segurb> Tomski: is the best[22:49:11] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[23:01:31] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD66200A4BCA91FE6384EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:15:59] *** AlHafoudh <AlHafoudh!~AlHafoudh@echo.freevision.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:17:59] *** AlHafoudh <AlHafoudh!~AlHafoudh@echo.freevision.sk> has joined #libgdx[23:28:37] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Doodiedoodiedoodiedoooo)[23:29:46] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-184.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[23:34:11] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)