October 28, 2016 
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October 28, 2016 [00:06:23] *** Shockah <Shockah!~Shockah@abed157.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:06:31] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip24-253-45-21.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:06:59] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[00:08:45] *** mobidevelop <mobidevelop!~nexsoftwa@2607:fb90:2205:bfdf:6b19:ee7c:dc80:9132> has joined #libgdx[00:08:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[00:12:06] *** Kotcrab <Kotcrab!uid51771@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmuncbastyqbdmkf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:15:52] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has quit IRC (Quit: icomputo.com)[00:33:15] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qiddxluaodwkpbnt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:37:55] <TEttinger> gah, this network outage[00:39:09] *** Joozey <Joozey!~Joozey@ip5452bbda.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:40:04] <madytyoo> Hi Guys, I have a question about lwjgl. As far as I know lwjgl supports OpenCL so, at least in theory, it would be possible run some typical CPU computation on the GPU?[00:48:23] <Xoppa> sure, not only in theory, also in practice ;)[00:49:11] *** Biliogadafr <Biliogadafr!~PIN@nat-minsk-pool-46-53-202-183.telecom.by> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:50:29] *** CaptainLex <CaptainLex!~CaptainLe@12.104.244.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:51:35] *** laubed <laubed!~Thunderbi@p57B4D89E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:54:52] *** flonka <flonka!~flonka@2a00:5500:80fe:2400:e9f2:28fc:cd10:ad8d> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:59:17] <madytyoo> it is hard to say when it would be convenient, because the OpenCL API setup, execute and fetch results has a cost. Any thought?[01:00:29] <Xoppa> perhaps expand a bit?[01:01:49] <Xoppa> why does the cost of something make it less convenient? and why does it has a cost (compared to what)?[01:08:05] <madytyoo> I mean, a simple float multiplication make sense on the CPU, probably costs more time (and code) to setup/execute OpenCL call. It is different if in case of matrix operations[01:09:44] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:10:47] *** zymo <zymo!8173c32e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.115.195.46> has joined #libgdx[01:10:57] <Xoppa> unless you have more than a couple of matrices you want to perform the same operation on at once, it is not different[01:11:28] <zymo> anyone know how to sort an array to greatest to least, or have an example?[01:12:17] <Xoppa> zymo, http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/nightlies/docs/api/com/badlogic/gdx/utils/Array.html#sort--[01:14:08] <zymo> the array is of objects, would it still work?[01:14:09] <Xoppa> if you want to reverse the array after that: http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/nightlies/docs/api/com/badlogic/gdx/utils/Array.html#reverse-- zymo[01:14:43] <Xoppa> sure, as long as they implement Comparable or you provide your custom Comparator zymo[01:15:08] <zymo> i guess i have to learn about comparators now ugh haha[01:15:32] *** lapinozz <lapinozz!~lapinozz@45.74.164.117> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[01:15:56] *** lapinozz <lapinozz!~lapinozz@45.74.164.117> has joined #libgdx[01:17:00] <madytyoo> so OpenCL make sense when you have a significant amount of computing, xoppa[01:19:52] <Xoppa> madytyoo, when its a significant amount of *the same* computing, e.g. as shaders do on, there are some other requirements as well, like memory lay-out, but those are usually fixable. Either way, you shouldn´t be looking into it unless there is an actual problem you are having which you cant fix using only the CPU.[01:22:49] *** rifter <rifter!~ob@178.red-79-158-164.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #libgdx[01:23:00] *** [twisti] <[twisti]!~twisti@ipv6.toadwater.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:24:00] *** rifter <rifter!~ob@178.red-79-158-164.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:24:21] *** rifter <rifter!~ob@178.red-79-158-164.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #libgdx[01:24:38] *** solarlune <solarlune!~solarlune@2606:6000:6507:3900:4ecc:6aff:fe03:da25> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:27:48] *** jeffol <jeffol!~jeffol@65.158.118.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[01:28:02] <TEttinger> madytyoo: also, no OpenCL on android at all[01:28:23] <TEttinger> google actually specifically took off drivers that were unofficially available on one sony phone[01:29:13] <madytyoo> thank you for the information Tettinger[01:29:15] <TEttinger> zymo: comparators are really simple, thankfully.[01:30:33] <zymo> TEttinger: currently googling it but i cant understand it[01:33:35] *** zymo <zymo!8173c32e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.115.195.46> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[01:39:18] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@d51a46969.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Doodiedoodiedoodiedoooo)[01:39:43] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:40:57] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:41:29] *** [twisti] <[twisti]!~twisti@ipv6.toadwater.com> has joined #libgdx[01:45:03] *** Neomex <Neomex!~Neomex@brc80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:50:18] <mobidevelop> android has renderscript instead of opencl[01:55:19] <madytyoo> Thanks mobidevelop, I'm trying to figure out if OpenCL has a future. I took a look back at the bullet implementation which looks interesting, but is seems each vendor is coming out with its own standard[02:03:41] *** madytyoo <madytyoo!57116b26@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.17.107.38> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[02:11:08] *** pleitsi <pleitsi!~pleitsi@82-128-230-241.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #libgdx[02:11:52] <pleitsi> sup[02:21:37] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@67.241.211.212> has joined #libgdx[02:24:12] <rifter> Tomski you may want to have a look to the PR I've just submitted related to another Label scaling bug https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/4382[02:35:43] <TEttinger> nooooooo Label scaling[02:39:17] *** notostraca <notostraca!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:466:466:f86b:95ea:dfa5> has joined #libgdx[02:41:33] <mobidevelop> Boo[02:42:36] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@76-217-24-171.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:44:19] *** notostraca <notostraca!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:466:466:f86b:95ea:dfa5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:47:19] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@67.241.211.212> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[03:05:07] *** atrus6 <atrus6!~Thunderbi@72.241.82.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[03:06:42] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[03:07:19] *** FrottyZad <FrottyZad!~FrottyZao@5.147.54.249> has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org)[03:12:22] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has quit IRC (Quit: I Bomanos)[03:12:42] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has joined #libgdx[03:19:20] *** Dig <Dig!~Dig@103.242.25.144> has joined #libgdx[03:26:53] *** crazy_im1 <crazy_im1!~mj@a89-182-186-142.net-htp.de> has joined #libgdx[03:30:08] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:31:53] <rifter> I know, boring stuff...[03:42:29] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:42:47] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[03:54:33] *** darkamikaze <darkamikaze!~darkamika@cpe-76-169-176-20.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[03:59:38] *** Scellow <Scellow!~quassel@bly33-1-78-246-251-30.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:06:22] *** lapinozz <lapinozz!~lapinozz@45.74.164.117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:09:01] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:09:13] *** suexec <suexec!~suexec@2001:16d8:ee92:9afa:47d0:3070:4883:d95e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[04:10:58] *** Joetz <Joetz!~Johannes@cable-78-34-30-47.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:20:44] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[04:25:55] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:32:22] *** solarlune <solarlune!~solarlune@2606:6000:6507:3900:4ecc:6aff:fe03:da25> has joined #libgdx[04:40:48] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[04:44:01] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[04:46:14] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:48:10] *** warmwaffles <warmwaffles!~warmwaffl@cpe-72-183-137-95.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:04:28] *** Tristitia <Tristitia!~tristitia@static-ip-69-64-50-196.inaddr.ip-pool.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:07:44] *** Mac70 <Mac70!~Mac70@195.187.156.43> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:14:21] *** Dig <Dig!~Dig@103.242.25.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:17:34] *** Tristitia <Tristitia!~tristitia@static-ip-69-64-50-196.inaddr.ip-pool.com> has joined #libgdx[05:21:03] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5087C8A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[05:23:39] *** lukass_ <lukass_!~lukass@p5087CFBA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[05:26:59] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[05:34:01] *** zymo <zymo!48b1d172@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.209.114> has joined #libgdx[05:34:05] <zymo> hey guys[05:34:39] <zymo> my comparable sort isnt working out. It's a z sort[05:34:39] <zymo> http://pastebin.com/78V2BRCb[05:41:41] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:43:09] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-43.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[05:43:32] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@173.245.67.72> has joined #libgdx[05:49:17] *** NullString <NullString!602a4a6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.42.74.107> has joined #libgdx[05:58:05] <zymo> im doing a zSort on my array of entities that i draw per render[05:58:12] <zymo> it works, but now it looks flashy[05:58:34] <zymo> like, overlapping textures will flip flop so fast, it looks almost transparent[06:03:53] *** Isogash <Isogash!~Isogash@87.127.112.116> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:05:15] <TEttinger> that doesn't sound quite right, zymo[06:05:35] <TEttinger> are you drawing them unsorted, sorting them, then drawing them again?[06:05:56] <zymo> I am sorting them then drawing them[06:06:00] <zymo> every render[06:06:12] <zymo> aaand it crashed[06:06:26] <zymo> "Comparison method violates its general contract!"[06:06:37] <TEttinger> yep, that's a "fun" one[06:07:11] <TEttinger> that I believe happens when you return a different value for equal items, that is, items that compare as .equal() being true[06:07:28] <TEttinger> not totally sure[06:07:44] <zymo> oh boy[06:07:47] <TEttinger> if they're equal they must have the compare function return 0[06:07:51] <zymo> do you see anything odd? http://pastebin.com/yEVD4WXX[06:09:57] <TEttinger> yeah uh... my solution is not the best demonstration of Java's clarity.[06:10:08] <TEttinger> the issue may be, not sure, related to floating point math[06:10:55] <zymo> that would be annoying[06:11:54] <TEttinger> you can have 0.2 + 0.4 - 0.6[06:11:59] <TEttinger> and you may think that's 0.0[06:12:02] <TEttinger> but it's not[06:12:11] <TEttinger> it's 1.1102230246251565E-16[06:12:18] <zymo> wuuuh[06:12:41] <myke> limited precision math[06:12:44] <TEttinger> imprecision with non-multiples of fractions that can be expressed with powers of two[06:12:53] <TEttinger> so 0.25 is fine, it's 1/4[06:12:56] <TEttinger> but 0.2 is 1/5[06:13:00] <myke> easy fix is to never do x == y but abs(x - y) < (small number epsilon)[06:13:00] <TEttinger> 0.4 is 2/5[06:13:10] <TEttinger> ^ myke has it[06:13:22] <TEttinger> 0.000001 is probably fine for epsilon[06:13:30] <TEttinger> floats may need higher[06:13:31] <myke> numerical methods was probably my most useful class in uni[06:13:39] <myke> since it was all about actually getting things done on real computers[06:13:41] <TEttinger> 0.0001 for floats maybe[06:13:42] <TEttinger> cool![06:13:46] <zymo> i thought the toCompare has to return 0, -1 or 1. wouldnt Math.abs always make it positive?[06:14:00] <TEttinger> less than in there[06:14:06] <TEttinger> that's to replace your boolean == test[06:14:23] <TEttinger> that isn't to get the -1, 0, or 1[06:14:28] <LiquidNitrogen> thats an interesting trick[06:14:38] <myke> fairly standard trick i think[06:14:42] <TEttinger> yeah[06:14:53] <TEttinger> it is interesting though[06:15:06] <TEttinger> the choice of epsilon can vary for different precisions[06:16:35] <TEttinger> also, your < 0 check should be < -0.0001 or something instead[06:16:48] <TEttinger> (err, -0.0001f)[06:17:11] <zymo> so instead of (first - second < 0) id just do Math.abs(first - second) < 0.00001?[06:17:24] <TEttinger> no[06:17:33] *** ShivanHunter <ShivanHunter!~quassel@cpe-98-25-97-110.sc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:17:33] <zymo> this is confusing haha[06:17:41] <TEttinger> instead of (first - second == 0)[06:17:44] <TEttinger> you do Math.abs(first - second) < 0.00001[06:17:55] <TEttinger> it's checking if the difference is very small[06:18:02] <zymo> ah[06:18:05] <TEttinger> which could be 0, but might be just very close to 0[06:18:14] <myke> make it a function with epsilon in it so you don't have to think about it[06:18:24] <myke> floatequal(a, b)[06:18:40] <TEttinger> the other check is in the if, if(second - first < 0) becomes if(second - first < -0.0001f)[06:19:19] <TEttinger> oh I may have typoed, use the same number of 0s in both numbers :)[06:19:36] <TEttinger> (pick one and stick with it, one will be negative, the other positive)[06:20:01] <zymo> thats cool[06:20:30] <zymo> it works like a charm now[06:20:35] <zymo> thanks a bunch yall[06:20:48] <TEttinger> yay[06:20:55] <zymo> oh noo[06:20:58] <zymo> i still got the crash[06:21:04] <zymo> its not immediate[06:21:09] <TEttinger> I was wondering if that wasn't the whole thing :|[06:21:18] <zymo> it doesn't have the flashy thing at least haha[06:22:05] <TEttinger> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20354527/java-comparator-violates-general-contract#20356467[06:22:07] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has joined #libgdx[06:23:42] <zymo> what! the flashy is still there[06:23:45] <zymo> ugh[06:24:51] <TEttinger> so if two things x and y compare as equal, they must compare the same with any other value, so x.compare(20) == y.compare(20)[06:25:10] <TEttinger> it could be 1, could be -1, could be 0 even. but they must be the same[06:26:09] <zymo> i'll probably just round the floats[06:26:24] <TEttinger> I'm not sure that's actually the problem now[06:26:35] <TEttinger> and rounding might make it worse if the float part matters[06:28:11] <TEttinger> what if both topSprite and entity are null?[06:28:24] <TEttinger> that would throw a NullPointerException I think[06:28:45] <zymo> the way i set it up, that would never happen[06:28:52] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip24-253-45-21.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #libgdx[06:29:12] <TEttinger> ok[06:29:18] <zymo> every time a new MapZSort is made, its with either a topSprite or an Entity[06:30:30] <TEttinger> are you changing the things you're sorting as you sort them?[06:31:02] <TEttinger> any modification in another thread is a surefire way to mess with the comparison contract[06:31:45] <zymo> nope, I'm only using one thread[06:32:00] <TEttinger> good.[06:32:14] <zymo> also, I'm spawning a bunch of entities around a tree thing, so i guess maybe too many of them are just around it?[06:32:24] <zymo> they are zsorting with the tree[06:32:52] <TEttinger> is every part of "other.entity.getComponent(SpriteComponent.class).sprites.get(0).getY();" returning a value that you are expecting?[06:32:59] <TEttinger> sprites could be empty maybe?[06:33:38] <TEttinger> oh![06:33:47] <TEttinger> are you sorting sprites with this comparator?[06:33:47] <zymo> i think i figured it out[06:34:10] <TEttinger> ohhhh[06:34:18] <zymo> nevermind[06:34:34] <TEttinger> sprites.get(0) always gives the top sprite, but it never changes unless this is sorting sprites somehow[06:34:37] <zymo> Its an array of MapZSort objects that hold a sprite (map objects) and entities[06:35:35] <zymo> i just use sprites.get(0) to use the first frame of the animation[06:35:43] <TEttinger> oh ok[06:35:58] <zymo> just to test things[06:36:08] <zymo> also i lost my mouse so i cant animate ;([06:36:30] <TEttinger> I think the issue may, maaaaybe, be that getY for the tree and whatever's around the tree may not be considering height[06:36:42] <TEttinger> since I imagine the tree is tall[06:37:26] <zymo> yeah, but im only looking at its base[06:47:47] <zymo> i made a gif https://imgur.com/NVtvIuH[06:59:29] *** LuaKT <LuaKT!~LuaKT@unaffiliated/luakt> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye.)[07:01:37] <Burny123> Hi guys i implemented an android leaderboard with the google play services api. The problem is when i click my leaderboard button twice very fast the leadersboards also pops up twice, so it looks a bit jerky.. I already put in some logic so the button wont work for 3 seconds when it gets clicked but the leaderboard still pops up twice. This logic is working because i monitor it in the debug console. Anyone maybe have an idea what c[07:01:37] <Burny123> auses this?[07:07:31] <zymo> TEttinger when i cast the floats to int, and turn it all to int, it fixes the crashing problem[07:11:50] <TEttinger> huh[07:11:54] <TEttinger> well that works :)[07:12:51] <zymo> the gross flashing though :([07:13:03] <zymo> i dont understand how that could be happening[07:13:51] <LiquidNitrogen> http://i.imgur.com/4qGB6Yk.png i like how this orange dude looks in this environment[07:14:46] <TEttinger> lol LiquidNitrogen[07:14:56] <TEttinger> he's like a tangerine made flesh[07:15:00] <TEttinger> http://i.imgur.com/UWZ79FE.png is my stuff[07:16:41] <Tomski> LiquidNitrogen: cute[07:17:08] <TEttinger> environment looks great LiquidNitrogen[07:18:24] <LiquidNitrogen> do you think you might make tile transitions TEttinger?[07:18:30] <TEttinger> in mine?[07:18:34] <LiquidNitrogen> yah[07:18:39] <TEttinger> no gameplay reason to have them, but maybe[07:18:51] <zymo> crashing still there :([07:19:10] <LiquidNitrogen> it can be an ass to make them, but it would help soften the terrain[07:20:35] <TEttinger> I don't want any confusion about what tile you're on, though, that's the main concern[07:21:13] <LiquidNitrogen> fluffing out around the corners a little shouldnt add confusions[07:25:31] <LiquidNitrogen> i think im getting the feeling that the terrain feels a little noisy, which clashes with the high detail of the models[07:26:09] <TEttinger> yeah, I've wondered about that. I had detailed models for terrain too[07:26:13] <TEttinger> it was way too clashy[07:27:22] <LiquidNitrogen> it might mainly be the dark green tile[07:27:51] <LiquidNitrogen> the rest are light and contrast nicely with the models[07:28:43] <TEttinger> the ones at the very top?[07:29:08] <TEttinger> the jungle tile is very dark green, not sure how to differentiate it from normal forest[07:30:05] <TEttinger> I can actually fix this with just a palette change, which would be convenient[07:31:18] *** ShivanHunter <ShivanHunter!~quassel@cpe-98-25-97-110.sc.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[07:33:08] <LiquidNitrogen> i like the orange tank guy at the bottom, he looks like a cyborg-tank[07:41:16] <TEttinger> hm, still a little noisy, but lighter seems to improve readability. http://i.imgur.com/WPP2Uov.png[07:41:51] <Tomski> 30fps[07:41:56] <TEttinger> it can get much more[07:41:57] <Tomski> you targetting next gen consoles?[07:42:01] <TEttinger> hehe[07:43:48] <TEttinger> when vsync's off and I stop limiting FPS, http://i.imgur.com/UGZqNzg.png[07:43:57] <TEttinger> this is not a new laptop[07:45:33] <TEttinger> thoughts on either, LiquidNitrogen?[07:46:12] *** pleitsi <pleitsi!~pleitsi@82-128-230-241.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC ()[07:47:57] <LiquidNitrogen> TEttinger: im not sure what you changed. i noticed it looks better in full screen though.[07:48:25] <TEttinger> oh, just some slight color tweaks[07:48:40] <TEttinger> the jungle (dark blue-green) is less dark[07:48:57] <TEttinger> the forest (mid green) is more grayish[07:49:47] <TEttinger> I'm wary of continuing too far into making them similar-looking[07:53:05] <LiquidNitrogen> still seems like theres too much contrast with the other ground tiles, but not sure what would help and i dont want to sidetrack you heh[07:56:33] *** Burny123 <Burny123!~rembrandt@c98195.upc-c.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:56:38] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@173.245.67.72> has quit IRC (Remote host 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<TEttinger!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:466:466:b852:74b9:b0aa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:19:19] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:466:466:b852:74b9:b0aa> has joined #libgdx[08:19:32] <TEttinger> friggin' network[08:22:12] <zymo> ah, i made a map with just two things for my zsort array. they keep switching indexes over and over[08:24:36] *** broesl <broesl!b221237b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.33.35.123> has joined #libgdx[08:33:25] <zymo> omg[08:33:38] <zymo> the mistake was so small[08:34:07] <LiquidNitrogen> thats asking for a joke[08:34:42] <zymo> yes lol[08:35:26] *** smelC <smelC!~churlin@gateway.provenrun.com> has joined #libgdx[08:44:06] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-43.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:51:42] <TEttinger> well that was good advice, LiquidNitrogen who just left :|[08:51:43] <TEttinger> http://i.imgur.com/wG1Ubyx.png[08:53:15] <TEttinger> it's much less distracting now. that kiwi knows his pixel art[08:57:41] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:58:22] <zymo> haha yeah that looks better[08:58:36] *** Shockah|Work <Shockah|Work!~Shockah@185.28.17.74> has joined #libgdx[09:01:27] <TEttinger> yay[09:06:43] *** crazy_im1 <crazy_im1!~mj@a89-182-186-142.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[09:06:50] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@a89-182-186-142.net-htp.de> has joined #libgdx[09:06:50] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@a89-182-186-142.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[09:06:50] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has joined #libgdx[09:07:06] *** realitix <realitix!~Thunderbi@92.103.166.6> has joined #libgdx[09:12:32] <TEttinger> zymo, so your sort works now?[09:19:59] <zymo> TEttinger yeah, I made the smallest mistake[09:20:28] <TEttinger> you squished a bug and it got in your desktop case[09:21:16] <zymo> http://pastebin.com/yEVD4WXX in line 19, I put entity == null instead of other.entity == null[09:22:00] <zymo> so im happy now[09:23:50] <zymo> do yall tend to be lazy on writing well performing code when it's not in update or render loops?[09:25:49] *** atrus6 <atrus6!~Thunderbi@72.241.82.247> has joined #libgdx[09:30:37] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@host242-241-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #libgdx[09:30:49] <[AD]Turbo> hi there[09:30:51] *** Biliogadafr <Biliogadafr!~PIN@nat-minsk-pool-46-53-202-183.telecom.by> has joined #libgdx[09:31:26] <zymo> hey[09:39:27] <TEttinger> zymo: I think I over-optimize code that doens't need it[09:39:32] <TEttinger> it's become a habit though[09:39:45] <TEttinger> bitwise for L|FE[09:42:34] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:48:04] <zymo> https://imgur.com/xCJshdV yay[09:55:46] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has joined #libgdx[09:59:04] <monsieur_h> zymo: Neat ![09:59:07] <monsieur_h> Box2dlights ?[10:00:49] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:02:16] *** solarlune <solarlune!~solarlune@2606:6000:6507:3900:4ecc:6aff:fe03:da25> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:08:41] *** realitix <realitix!~Thunderbi@92.103.166.6> has quit IRC (Quit: realitix)[10:08:53] *** realitix <realitix!~Thunderbi@92.103.166.6> has joined #libgdx[10:09:05] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has joined #libgdx[10:12:34] *** Jonas___ <Jonas___!~Jonas__@unaffiliated/jonas/x-7723671> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:12:59] <zymo> monsieur_h yep![10:19:48] <zymo> can this be any more optimized? http://pastebin.com/Ea0akz8X[10:19:57] <zymo> its a heuristic for pathfinding[10:25:50] <monsieur_h> what do you want to optimize ? it's already a heuristic[10:27:45] <zymo> because it will be performing a lot of math a whole bunch, i just didnt know if there was any cheaper ways of doing anything[10:27:54] <zymo> it looks small but it adds up in my game[10:28:08] *** karkoon <karkoon!5292fa41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.146.250.65> has joined #libgdx[10:28:20] *** karkoon <karkoon!5292fa41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.146.250.65> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:28:46] <TEttinger> there are some ways, zymo[10:28:52] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[10:29:26] <TEttinger> if your map width is always a power of 2, you can do some very small optimizations to avoid division. the bigger gain will be from cutting out the sqrt call[10:29:34] <TEttinger> float distance = (float)Math.sqrt(Math.pow(endX - startX, 2) + Math.pow(endY - startY, 2)); // can become...[10:29:57] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:30:10] <TEttinger> float distance = (endX - startX) * (endX - startX) + (endY - startY) * (endY - startY));[10:30:15] *** Jonas__ <Jonas__!~Jonas__@unaffiliated/jonas/x-7723671> has joined #libgdx[10:30:26] <zymo> so thats only if my map width is a power of 2?[10:30:32] <TEttinger> or assign those to existing but now-unused vars[10:30:36] <TEttinger> no that's different[10:31:04] <TEttinger> if your map width is a power of 2 you can replace / with >> and % with a modified call using &[10:31:25] <TEttinger> that only matters in very tight loops[10:31:57] <TEttinger> so if you had...[10:32:20] <TEttinger> int startY = startIndex / MapManager.mapWidth; // where mapWidth is a constant and a power of 2, this would become[10:35:13] <TEttinger> int startY = startIndex >> mapWidthBits; // where mapWidthBits can be computed, once, with Integer.numberOfTrailingZeros(Integer.highestOneBit(mapWidth))[10:35:46] <TEttinger> the % is a nice one though[10:35:57] <TEttinger> so if you're doing something simple like x % 8[10:36:09] <Ashiren> wouldnt that be optimized away at runtime if jvm knows its power of 2[10:36:13] <TEttinger> that produces values from 0 to 7, well it should but doesn't[10:36:21] <TEttinger> it should be, Ashiren. is it?[10:36:31] <TEttinger> there are differences sometimes[10:37:09] <TEttinger> so x % 8 is generating values that can be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7[10:37:17] *** atrus6 <atrus6!~Thunderbi@72.241.82.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:37:51] <TEttinger> that's the same set of numbers that can be produced by only using the bits that can represent 7, a special property because it's 1 less than a power of 2[10:38:29] <TEttinger> so x & 7 is almost the same as x % 8, but faster and behaves correctly on negative numbers (debatable, but it allows you to use the numbers as indices in arrays)[10:39:48] <zymo> haha wow[10:40:00] <TEttinger> bitwise magic![10:40:05] <TEttinger> it gets much crazier[10:40:14] <TEttinger> there's a whole page on unusual tricks[10:40:25] <zymo> just float distance = (endX - startX) * (endX - startX) + (endY - startY) * (endY - startY)); made a difference in framerate[10:40:47] <TEttinger> woah[10:40:52] <TEttinger> yeah, sqrt is pricey[10:40:57] <zymo> i can eat this stuff up all day[10:40:59] <TEttinger> that can be an int too[10:41:03] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:41:13] <TEttinger> it saves a conversion, since all of those I think are ints?[10:41:23] <TEttinger> if they're floats, don't change a thing :)[10:41:37] <zymo> you are right[10:41:40] <TEttinger> this technique of avoiding sqrt when an exact number isn't needed is used in libgdx[10:41:40] <zymo> ints[10:42:01] <zymo> does declaring distance cost memory?[10:42:23] <zymo> cant i just set return = to what distance would have been declared as?[10:42:24] <TEttinger> like, right before you return it? probably not. but shorter methods can be JITed quicker[10:42:37] <TEttinger> yeah, returning instead of creating a temp variable is clean too[10:43:19] <TEttinger> if you don't need the value of distance for anything but what you return, just return the value[10:44:15] <zymo> cool[10:44:59] <zymo> honestly would probably spend 50 hours straight trying to find more optimizations like this instead of actually being productive one of these days haha[10:45:55] <Ashiren> premature optimization is root of all evil[10:46:12] <zymo> i feel its toll already[10:46:14] <TEttinger> fun evil[10:46:39] *** Serpent7776 <Serpent7776!~Serpent77@90-156-68-175.internetia.net.pl> has joined #libgdx[10:46:53] <Ashiren> while i enjoy those micro optimization myself, it is crucial to profile the code first[10:48:51] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:48:51] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@188-167-240-164.dynamic.chello.sk> has joined #libgdx[10:50:22] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@188-167-240-164.dynamic.chello.sk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:50:47] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@188-167-240-164.dynamic.chello.sk> has joined #libgdx[10:50:48] *** remonvv 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seconds)[11:08:56] *** NullString <NullString!602a4a6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.42.74.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[11:11:08] <broesl> the distance of light when i create a new PointLight is in meters?[11:23:09] *** Isogash <Isogash!~Isogash@87.127.112.116> has joined #libgdx[11:25:03] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:26:38] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has joined #libgdx[11:36:20] *** bomb <bomb!~bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[11:46:37] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:466:466:b852:74b9:b0aa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:47:48] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:51:02] *** Larry1123 <Larry1123!Larry1123@irc.larry1123.net> has joined #libgdx[11:52:45] *** chandujr <chandujr!~chandujr@111.92.4.109> has joined #libgdx[11:57:22] <monsieur_h> I agree with Ashiren[11:57:38] <monsieur_h> the fact that you have an heuristic for the distace calculation is already a sort of optimisation[11:57:58] <monsieur_h> now if you over-engineer it, you'll have some trouble to add/change behaviors later[11:58:06] <monsieur_h> optimizing should happens later[12:16:02] <chandujr> hey guys, anybody know how to change particle emitter spawn width during runtime?[12:18:35] *** broesl <broesl!b221237b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.33.35.123> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:20:37] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[12:20:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[12:23:50] *** sonicthehedgehog <sonicthehedgehog!~Aaron@120.155.100.2> has joined #libgdx[12:24:54] <monsieur_h> emitter.getBoundingBox().ext(x, y, z);[12:25:04] *** LyronDev <LyronDev!86937419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.147.116.25> has joined #libgdx[12:25:55] <LyronDev> Anyone a clue why some sounds are not playing on android? I have .ogg files and they play correctly when running DesktopLauncher but not on android[12:26:06] <monsieur_h> chandujr: ^to extend the bounding box of the emitter[12:26:43] <Tomski> LyronDev: android audio isnt fun[12:27:00] <Tomski> Make sure you have supported sampling rates, and sizes[12:27:08] <Tomski> Dont play as soon as you load[12:27:59] <LyronDev> Problem is, that some sounds don't play at first, but when triggering the events that should play the sound they do play[12:28:12] <LyronDev> *triggering the events multiple times[12:30:50] <Tomski> They may not have been fully loaded yet[12:30:55] <Tomski> You also might be at a limit[12:33:36] *** Kotcrab <Kotcrab!uid51771@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpgmrjutvhpsbbfv> has joined #libgdx[12:37:28] <LyronDev> What limit?[12:37:49] <Tomski> simultaneous sounds limit[12:38:33] <LyronDev> Oh, okay...[12:39:01] <LyronDev> Well they're definately loaded. I have them in an AssetsManager and call finishLoading() on it before playing any sounds[12:40:21] <chandujr> monsieur_h: Thank you. So if I wanted to increase the spawn width to 10, I just call ext(10, y, z)??[12:44:26] <Tomski> LyronDev: that doesnt mean they are loaded[12:44:32] <Tomski> It just means the java side is done[12:46:11] <LyronDev> Yes, unfortunately. I just found out by testing. Is there a way to ensure that they're loaded?[12:59:17] <Tomski> nop[12:59:50] <Tomski> Why not load them at the start?[13:02:48] <LyronDev> How do you mean? I load them with my assetmanager[13:05:20] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has joined #libgdx[13:07:17] <Tomski> Load them well before you are playing them is what i mean[13:08:29] *** LuaKT <LuaKT!~LuaKT@unaffiliated/luakt> has joined #libgdx[13:09:05] <LyronDev> I think i do... http://pastebin.com/rZCdXtfV[13:10:10] <LyronDev> My Assets class load() function is called when the app opens (loadingscreen)[13:10:41] <LyronDev> From there the player goes to the menu, to the level select screen, selects a level and then plays[13:10:57] <LyronDev> Then another 3 seconds pass while a countdown is running[13:11:06] <LyronDev> And then it's the earliest time i need that sound[13:13:03] <Tomski> no sounds are played before ten?[13:13:40] <LyronDev> Oh, actually a click sound when clicking on a button in the menu[13:14:21] <Tomski> There are a few bugs that cause sound loading to take a huge amount of time when loading lots of htem at once also[13:14:40] <Tomski> A test would be to only load one and test that[13:15:09] <Tomski> you can also try messing with the different audio players on your device[13:15:12] <LyronDev> Yeah, gonna do that. Thanks for the tip[13:15:16] <Tomski> nuplayer and the other one[13:15:22] <LyronDev> Okay[13:15:22] <Tomski> Gotta head out, good luck![13:15:27] <LyronDev> Thanks[13:33:36] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[13:42:53] <chandujr> hey I couldn't quite figure out what ext(x,y,z) did in boundingbox of particle emitter.[13:43:20] *** wulax <wulax!~wulax@c-94-255-235-218.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:43:40] <chandujr> if I had to change the spawn width of particle emitter, how should I use ext() method?[13:44:38] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@chello089173223119.chello.sk> has joined #libgdx[13:53:37] *** lvGdx <lvGdx!7c6d2924@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.109.41.36> has joined #libgdx[13:53:52] <lvGdx> Hi[13:53:57] <lvGdx> Array<Body> bodies = new Array<Body>(world.getBodyCount());[13:54:04] <lvGdx> world.getBodies(bodies);[13:54:26] <lvGdx> whats happening?[13:56:33] <chandujr> didn't understand your question[13:56:36] <Ashiren> let the bodies hit the floor[13:56:58] <chandujr> oh sorry! thought you were talking to me. :D[13:58:26] <lvGdx> what does this two lines of codes means[13:58:43] <lvGdx> more specifically this one world.getBodies(bodies)?[13:59:45] <Ashiren> https://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/nightlies/docs/api/com/badlogic/gdx/physics/box2d/World.html#getBodies-com.badlogic.gdx.utils.Array-[13:59:57] <Ashiren> it sems it fills the arraylist with bodies of the world[14:00:30] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d7295f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.241> has joined #libgdx[14:00:45] <lvGdx> world.getBodies(bodies)?[14:01:26] *** FrottyZ <FrottyZ!~FrottyZao@5.147.54.249> has joined #libgdx[14:02:24] <lvGdx> Ashiren: ^[14:15:01] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:20:52] *** LuaKT <LuaKT!~LuaKT@unaffiliated/luakt> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[14:20:52] *** Kotcrab 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getting the initial error[14:47:56] <ficolas> http://pastebin.com/R5vKdx19[14:49:53] *** rolfpancake <rolfpancake!~chatzilla@cable-86-56-75-242.cust.telecolumbus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 51.0a2/20161027004020])[14:52:56] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: remonvv)[14:53:47] <ficolas> what should I have in the gradle.build in android project regarding the support v4 library?[14:55:32] *** rolfpancake <rolfpancake!~smuxi@cable-86-56-75-242.cust.telecolumbus.net> has joined #libgdx[14:58:17] *** broesl <broesl!5a922e23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.146.46.35> has joined #libgdx[15:02:34] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[15:02:53] *** Sanic <Sanic!~Sanic@120.155.100.2> has joined #libgdx[15:05:14] *** rolfpancake <rolfpancake!~smuxi@cable-86-56-75-242.cust.telecolumbus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:06:31] *** chandujr <chandujr!~chandujr@111.92.4.109> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:08:30] *** Mac70 <Mac70!~Mac70@195.187.156.43> has joined #libgdx[15:10:10] *** FrottyZad <FrottyZad!~FrottyZao@5.147.54.249> has joined #libgdx[15:12:11] <ficolas> I have no idea what else to do...[15:12:27] *** realitix <realitix!~Thunderbi@92.103.166.6> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:12:43] *** FrottyZ <FrottyZ!~FrottyZao@5.147.54.249> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:13:06] <ficolas> if I add the 23.2.1 android support version through project->android->add support library I get http://pastebin.com/nVPCgc91[15:13:24] <ficolas> and If I add the 24.0.0 version manually, I get this http://pastebin.com/R5vKdx19[15:14:07] <ficolas> the line I use in the build.gradle is compile "com.android.support:support-v4:23.2.1" or compile "com.android.support:support-v4:24.0.0"[15:18:20] *** jaagr <jaagr!~jaagr@unaffiliated/jaagr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:18:41] 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dependencies[15:46:19] <mobidevelop> What does your android dependencies block look like in your gradle?[15:51:00] <ficolas> http://pastebin.com/1wKSXfAY[15:51:42] <ficolas> 24.0.0 instead of 23.2.1[15:53:57] *** smelC <smelC!~churlin@gateway.provenrun.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:03:50] *** jaagr <jaagr!~jaagr@unaffiliated/jaagr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:05:13] *** Ange_blond <Ange_blond!~Ange_blon@AMontpellier-656-1-2-157.w92-133.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:08:47] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[16:08:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[16:10:21] *** smelC <smelC!~churlin@gateway.provenrun.com> has joined #libgdx[16:11:11] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@189.110.209.122> has joined #libgdx[16:16:49] <LyronDev> Any downside to using Music.class for small sound files (.ogg) ?[16:17:13] <LyronDev> I had big issues playing audio with Sound.class on Android. I changed everything to Music.class now it works[16:17:52] <LyronDev> Because the Doc says: "Music instances are heavy, you should usually not have more than one or two at most loaded."[16:23:08] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: remonvv)[16:25:22] *** jeffol <jeffol!~jeffol@65.158.118.6> has joined #libgdx[16:29:01] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[16:36:54] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: remonvv)[16:46:07] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.167.232> has joined #libgdx[16:49:45] *** Shockah|Work <Shockah|Work!~Shockah@185.28.17.74> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:50:01] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[16:50:04] *** ficolas__ <ficolas__!5d7295f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.241> has joined #libgdx[16:52:10] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d7295f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.241> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:55:11] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@189.110.209.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:57:00] *** CaptainLex <CaptainLex!~CaptainLe@12.104.244.5> has joined #libgdx[16:58:13] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@189.110.209.122> has joined #libgdx[17:01:37] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: remonvv)[17:02:12] *** remonvv <remonvv!~remon@ip-213-127-248-102.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #libgdx[17:04:59] *** mobidevelop <mobidevelop!~nexsoftwa@2607:fb90:2205:bfdf:6b19:ee7c:dc80:9132> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[17:06:09] <ficolas__> How can I implement android support v4 in my project? 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but can't seem to find any methods to achieve this[20:02:39] <dogshackstudio> Nevermind, I was looking for a setAngle method but I have to use the getAngle method to get access to ways of changing the angle[20:03:02] *** kjempff <kjempff!~kvirc@0133501203.0.fullrate.ninja> has joined #libgdx[20:06:09] <jeffol> whats up my libgdx fellows! my next game is now on steam greenlight if you don't mind giving it a look http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=788639576[20:13:35] *** Burny123 <Burny123!~rembrandt@c98195.upc-c.chello.nl> has joined #libgdx[20:18:05] *** Burny123 <Burny123!~rembrandt@c98195.upc-c.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:21:12] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has joined #libgdx[20:47:03] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~gerds0n@p579915D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[20:47:53] <gerds0n> hi guys, is there a way to use full justificaiton in scene2d when drawing fonts? (code snippet / library?)[20:48:04] <gerds0n> * full justification[20:50:15] *** X-Ray-Jin1 <X-Ray-Jin1!~X-Ray-Jin@dslb-088-071-010-020.088.071.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:51:17] *** Keniyal <Keniyal!~Keniyal@unaffiliated/keniyal> has joined #libgdx[20:51:51] *** X-Ray-Jin <X-Ray-Jin!~X-Ray-Jin@dslb-088-071-010-020.088.071.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #libgdx[20:54:56] *** dogshackstudio <dogshackstudio!516184e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.97.132.232> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:57:14] *** davimore <davimore!~davimore@static.88-198-41-86.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:35:33] *** Sadale <Sadale!~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:43:14] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~gerds0n@p579915D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:43:32] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~gerds0n@p579915D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[21:47:19] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrpmesyowigalxbh> has joined #libgdx[21:51:10] *** emPi <emPi!~emPi@unaffiliated/empi> has quit IRC (Quit: emPi)[22:18:55] *** cackling_grandma <cackling_grandma!~cackling_@14.177.167.232> has joined #libgdx[22:21:41] <gerds0n> hi guys, is there a way to use full justification in scene2d when drawing fonts? (code snippet / library?)[22:22:20] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.167.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:25:47] <Xoppa> i don´t think that´s supported by default gerds0n, you could extend the font to implement it, but i doubt there are any examples specifically for that[22:27:24] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:95:95:a411:e062:afc9> has joined #libgdx[22:30:12] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has quit IRC (Quit: icomputo.com)[22:31:58] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has joined #libgdx[22:39:48] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has quit IRC (Quit: icomputo.com)[22:46:48] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has joined #libgdx[22:52:49] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@2606:f180:0:95:95:a411:e062:afc9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:52:53] *** notostraca <notostraca!~notostrac@76.217.24.171> has joined #libgdx[22:55:34] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has left #libgdx[23:03:45] *** X-Ray-Jin <X-Ray-Jin!~X-Ray-Jin@dslb-088-071-010-020.088.071.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:04:18] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has quit IRC (Quit: icomputo.com)[23:07:10] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has joined #libgdx[23:15:17] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:16:52] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@cpe-172-73-18-120.carolina.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[23:16:52] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@cpe-172-73-18-120.carolina.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:16:52] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has joined #libgdx[23:25:10] <solarlune> 'Sup! How's everyone doing?[23:25:46] <solarlune> Just wanted to mention this: https://www.reddit.com/r/libgdx/comments/59wafk/asepriteintegrated_sprite_animation_for_bdx/[23:26:27] <solarlune> TL;DR: A component that reads Aseprite JSON files for sprite animation under BDX (a 3D LibGDX-powered game engine).[23:27:14] <solarlune> So you don't have to add animations and timing and stuff yourself, which is cool. It also will read the tags.[23:38:59] *** Burny123 <Burny123!~rembrandt@c98195.upc-c.chello.nl> has joined #libgdx[23:44:56] *** Shockah_ <Shockah_!~Shockah@avd87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #libgdx[23:44:56] *** Shockah is now known as Guest36692[23:44:57] *** Shockah_ is now known as Shockah[23:47:50] *** Guest36692 <Guest36692!~Shockah@aado79.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:52:01] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@chello089173223119.chello.sk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:52:08] *** Kotcrab <Kotcrab!uid51771@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpgmrjutvhpsbbfv> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:52:37] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@chello089173223119.chello.sk> has joined #libgdx[23:52:56] *** rifter <rifter!~ob@178.red-79-158-164.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #libgdx[23:54:26] *** lapinozz <lapinozz!~lapinozz@45.74.164.117> has joined #libgdx[23:57:26] *** matej_ <matej_!~matej@chello089173223119.chello.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)