October 20, 2016 
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October 20, 2016 [00:01:44] *** Kotcrab <Kotcrab!uid51771@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-waouzytqgtlyjjsq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:02:25] *** Keniyal_ <Keniyal_!~Keniyal@unaffiliated/keniyal> has joined #libgdx[00:06:18] *** Keniyal <Keniyal!~Keniyal@unaffiliated/keniyal> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:21:08] *** kjempff <kjempff!~kvirc@0133501203.0.fullrate.ninja> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:33:13] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ryjxpnpadhjyejcw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:36:34] *** LyronDev <LyronDev!86933fb8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.147.63.184> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[00:37:04] *** Biliogadafr <Biliogadafr!~PIN@nat-minsk-pool-46-53-202-183.telecom.by> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:40:17] <dnyy> how can i mix 2 colors? i tried add/sub/mul but too dumb to figure those out it seems[00:40:41] <Tomski> mix in what way?[00:41:51] <dnyy> so blue and white would be a light blue, red and blue make purple, etc[00:41:54] <TEttinger> if you want a color that's interpolated between two colors, consider lerp[00:42:04] <TEttinger> I believe there's a method on Color[00:42:27] <TEttinger> it takes a float as well for how much to "lean" toward one color or the other[00:42:29] *** log` <log`!~louie@unaffiliated/log/x-9960987> has joined #libgdx[00:43:21] <TEttinger> with mul, blue and white would be blue (the same as the first), since mul is a simple shade that can't get brighter[00:43:29] <TEttinger> lerp should get it right[00:44:44] <TEttinger> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/gdx/src/com/badlogic/gdx/graphics/Color.java#L254-L281[00:45:44] *** laubed <laubed!~Thunderbi@p200300566D71070014F28029703B104E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: laubed)[00:48:14] <dnyy> so Color.BLUE.lerp(Color.WHITE, .5f) should make a light blue?[00:48:22] <Tomski> Dont do that[00:48:26] <Tomski> colors are mutable[00:48:29] <dnyy> well not doing that specifically[00:48:34] <dnyy> in real code doing cpy() first[00:49:01] <dnyy> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fb5fbf4f5f06e8292aaa317df7db41d1[00:49:05] <dnyy> is what i'm doing[00:49:48] <Tomski> 0, 0, 1, 1 lerp to 1, 1, 1, 1 by 0.5 alpa. So you'd end up with 0.5, 0.5, 1, 1[00:51:32] <TEttinger> that sounds good[00:51:40] <TEttinger> that would be a light blue[00:52:12] <dnyy> hm well spriteColor.cpy().lerp(cellColor, .5f) doesn't work but cellColor.cpy().lerp(spriteColor, .5f) does[00:52:37] <Tomski> more lilac than light blue[00:52:56] <TEttinger> I would consider not copying there, in that code[00:53:27] <TEttinger> if you copy when you assign the color (as in, don't assign Color.BLUE, but a unique copy), you can edit it without creating intermediate colors[00:53:47] <TEttinger> (edit the copy i mean, directly on the sprite)[00:54:27] <dnyy> not sure what you mean?[00:56:13] <dnyy> also results kinda good https://imgur.com/a/090hi[00:56:26] <TEttinger> https://gist.github.com/tommyettinger/23c64dc6277af328cb4c95a47082e779[00:56:30] <dnyy> maybe should just mix the water color w/ white instead of w/ the color of the sprite, since brown + blue ain't exactly nice looking[00:56:38] <dnyy> also oooh, gotcha thanks[00:56:49] <diphtherial> dnyy: heh, that looks cool[00:57:04] <TEttinger> I do love text-based game stuff[00:57:10] <dnyy> ty, was hoping mixing colors would make it easier to see (originally i just made the entity the color of the water)[00:57:20] <dnyy> but if the entity is brown, it doesn't really make it any easier to see at all lol[00:58:08] <TEttinger> I'm not totally sure what's being tinted there, but it looks good[00:58:26] <dnyy> yea hard to see in gif[00:58:30] <TEttinger> how'd you make the gif?[00:58:34] <TEttinger> it looks rather sharp[00:58:37] <dnyy> i throw a brown arrow into the water so it should tint the same color as the water[00:58:44] <dnyy> http://www.cockos.com/licecap/[00:59:10] <TEttinger> I didn't actually se the arrow at first[00:59:32] <dnyy> yea throw tween si pretty fast, kinda hard to see if only throwing 2 spaces away haha[01:00:55] *** jeffol <jeffol!~jeffol@65.158.118.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[01:01:28] <dnyy> https://imgur.com/a/fhWCs better gif maybe[01:02:32] <TEttinger> I feel like the tween should be slower, but I realize that's a little tricky when limited to exact grid cells[01:03:01] <dnyy> yea kinda a balance mostly cause the game pauses while the tweens happen[01:03:04] <dnyy> so too slow and would get annoying[01:08:16] *** jwinterm <jwinterm!~quassel@c-67-187-195-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:08:55] *** Neomex <Neomex!~Neomex@dua237.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:09:36] *** Dig <Dig!~Dig@103.242.25.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:09:43] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has quit IRC (Quit: icomputo.com)[01:10:49] *** Dig <Dig!~Dig@103.242.25.144> has joined #libgdx[01:22:37] <diphtherial> this might be a dumb question, but there isn't a version of Vector2 that returns new vectors with each operation rather than doing it in-place, is there?[01:22:47] <diphtherial> i suppose it'd be a gc nightmare[01:23:02] <diphtherial> (also, cpy() before the series of operations works as well)[01:26:30] <dnyy> i just use cpy, but i kno fuk all of performance lol[01:28:42] <TEttinger> maybe using pools would make sense there, diphtherial[01:29:11] <diphtherial> TEttinger: agreed; i should probably just write a class that manipulates vectors and uses a pool underneath[01:29:26] <diphtherial> i'd mostly like it for the clarity of not peppering my code with spurious allocations[01:32:22] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-213-196-232-162.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[01:33:42] <mobidevelop> Then you just need to pepper your code with spurious releases back to the pool[01:34:55] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@xdsl-213-196-232-162.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:42:24] *** jwinterm <jwinterm!~quassel@c-67-187-195-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[01:43:45] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has quit IRC (Quit: I Bomanos)[01:44:23] <diphtherial> mobidevelop: perhaps if you had some math-heavy section of code you'd begin() it, do your expensive allocations, then end() and have them all returned, i don't know[01:45:10] <diphtherial> er, math, not "expensive allocations"; i don't know where that came from[01:47:29] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[01:47:29] <mobidevelop> Seems legit[01:48:51] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has joined #libgdx[01:48:52] <diphtherial> :)[02:10:22] *** Loraunt <Loraunt!~Loraunt@ip70-178-10-112.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #libgdx[02:11:41] *** atrus6 <atrus6!~Thunderbi@72.241.82.247> has joined #libgdx[02:26:29] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:52:30] *** FrottyZ <FrottyZ!~FrottyZao@ip-178-200-234-13.hsi07.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org)[03:08:00] *** guardianL_ <guardianL_!~guardian@120.29.5.222> has joined #libgdx[03:17:56] *** guardianL <guardianL!~guardian@pa49-197-187-49.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #libgdx[03:22:07] *** guardianL_ <guardianL_!~guardian@120.29.5.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:28:48] *** atrus6 <atrus6!~Thunderbi@72.241.82.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:34:16] *** Isogash2 <Isogash2!~Isogash@87.127.112.116> has joined #libgdx[03:36:13] *** darkamikaze <darkamikaze!~darkamika@cpe-76-169-176-20.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[03:36:37] *** crazy_im1 <crazy_im1!~mj@a89-182-40-135.net-htp.de> has joined #libgdx[03:36:39] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-92.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[03:38:12] *** Isogash3 <Isogash3!~Isogash@87.127.112.116> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:39:56] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:43:48] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[03:47:49] *** Isogash2 <Isogash2!~Isogash@87.127.112.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:03:11] *** solarlune <solarlune!~solarlune@2606:6000:6507:3900:4ecc:6aff:fe03:da25> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:15:33] <TEttinger> hey LiquidNitrogen[04:15:42] <TEttinger> how's your city game going?[04:17:13] <LiquidNitrogen> im not really doing any coding lately[04:18:36] <TEttinger> http://i.imgur.com/QnyjcAv.png[04:18:37] <TEttinger> I am[04:19:30] <LiquidNitrogen> awesome :D[04:19:48] <TEttinger> how's your forest fortress coming?[04:20:10] <TEttinger> "it was stolen by elves, I'm prepping a raid to get it back"[04:20:56] <LiquidNitrogen> im cutting down trees and burning all the shit up so theres space for my sister to put a house over the other side[04:21:15] <TEttinger> woah![04:21:15] <TEttinger> nice[04:21:26] <TEttinger> housespace![04:21:40] <TEttinger> it is a lovely view[04:22:09] <TEttinger> probably be hard pressed to find a better one in any nation not currently at war with itself or neighbors[04:22:17] <LiquidNitrogen> lol[04:22:46] <TEttinger> new zealand has no land borders, so there IS that[04:23:11] <TEttinger> do you consider any polynesian nations as neighbors to NZ?[04:23:35] <LiquidNitrogen> not really.. theyre all quite some distance away[04:24:26] <LiquidNitrogen> a couple of them are nz territory though i think[04:25:21] <LiquidNitrogen> but certainly not in the way that a country with land borders would consider nearby areas neighbours[04:25:21] <TEttinger> and you're sooooo close to Australia :P[04:25:38] <TEttinger> it's like a 5 hour flight or something?[04:26:08] <LiquidNitrogen> might be less than that, not sure really[04:27:13] <TEttinger> ah, 4 hours[04:27:24] <TEttinger> http://www.travelmath.com/flying-time/from/Melbourne,+Australia/to/Wellington,+New+Zealand[04:27:30] <LiquidNitrogen> looks like aus is slightly closer than any of the pacific islands are[04:27:32] <TEttinger> probably could pick a closer australian city[04:29:57] <TEttinger> 1490 km apparently http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_minimum_distance_to_New_Zealand_from_Australia[04:30:39] <LiquidNitrogen> thats about how far i walk every day[04:32:38] <TEttinger> auckland to macquarie is 617 km though[04:33:45] <LiquidNitrogen> wow, are you sure? my wall map must be terribly distorted[04:34:12] <LiquidNitrogen> that doesnt really sound right[04:34:30] <LiquidNitrogen> nz is way more than 600km long[04:35:51] <TEttinger> they're distant islands aren't they?[04:35:55] <TEttinger> it's 383 miles[04:36:03] <TEttinger> no way you walk that many miles[04:36:11] <TEttinger> (distant from mainland)[04:36:19] <LiquidNitrogen> theyre halfway to antarctica[04:36:33] <TEttinger> there you go[04:36:38] <TEttinger> earth is a sphere[04:36:49] <TEttinger> each latitude line is that much smaller[04:37:03] <TEttinger> maps are usually rectangles, stretching the poles[04:37:30] <LiquidNitrogen> russia looks pretty stretched[04:37:40] <TEttinger> it is pretty huge[04:38:01] <LiquidNitrogen> surely not bigger than all of africa tho[04:38:12] <TEttinger> it definitely could be[04:38:24] <TEttinger> smaller population than bangladesh though[04:38:32] <TEttinger> find bangladesh on the map...[04:38:35] <TEttinger> find russia...[04:39:10] <LiquidNitrogen> i gotta go out, bbl[04:39:11] <TEttinger> http://mapfight.appspot.com/ru-vs-bd/russia-bangladesh-size-comparison[04:39:48] <TEttinger> apparently russia is just over half the size of africa http://mapfight.appspot.com/ru-vs-africa/russia-africa-size-comparison[04:39:50] <TEttinger> later[04:40:32] <LiquidNitrogen> thats still quite a big area![04:40:36] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@122-56-198-92.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:40:39] *** dhk <dhk!~dhk@138.59.24.18> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset 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call object-c function without covert Object-C code to java?[11:18:21] <Newbee> We are just making a decision which gl engine(Unity or libGDX)should choose for our work.[11:18:28] <Newbee> Many thanks.[11:20:50] *** FrottyZ <FrottyZ!~FrottyZao@ip-178-200-234-13.hsi07.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #libgdx[11:21:37] <Newbee> Is there any advices?[11:21:51] *** Quallenmann <Quallenmann!~quallenma@nat2-145.fh-giessen.de> has left #libgdx[11:22:05] *** mk1 <mk1!c291ebf8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.145.235.248> has joined #libgdx[11:42:58] *** monsieur_h2 <monsieur_h2!~Thunderbi@194.125-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com> has joined #libgdx[11:44:40] *** monsieur_h <monsieur_h!~Thunderbi@194.125-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:44:40] *** monsieur_h2 is now known as monsieur_h[11:55:51] *** crazy_im1 <crazy_im1!~mj@a89-182-40-135.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[11:55:57] *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has joined #libgdx[11:58:21] <Ashiren> though time[12:12:39] <monsieur_h> Ashiren: ?[12:16:01] <Ashiren> nobody's here to answer newbie's question ~[12:17:08] <mk1> if you don't ask you won't get an answer[12:19:31] <Ashiren> its not for meh[12:23:21] <TEttinger> Newbee: MOE and RoboVM both have ways to call Obj-C as I understand it[12:23:44] <TEttinger> it's the only way they can call iOS libraries for things like ad display, so it can be done[12:24:20] <TEttinger> there are some pre-made wrappers for existing obj-c libraries, but some may be out of date or not updated for the recent robovm changes[12:24:49] <TEttinger> Newbee: Unity is very very different from libgdx in style and development approach[12:29:13] *** guardianA <guardianA!~guardianA@58-7-194-122.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:31:07] *** Shockah|Work <Shockah|Work!~Shockah@185.28.17.74> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[12:33:30] *** TEttinger 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It happens randomly in our game and we have no idea why :/[14:11:22] <BCX> It works fine on other platforms tho[14:12:14] <Tomski> If you have ran out of simultaneous sounds, if you try to play a sound before its fully loaded[14:12:25] <Tomski> And android audio being terrible[14:14:00] <BCX> There shouldnt be more than 2 simultaneous sounds playing at the same time.[14:14:29] <BCX> I mean they are not playing, its still possible theyre somewhere else, doing nothing, blocking some stuff, breaking our game and laughing at us :/[14:22:10] <BCX> It happens for music aswell which is weird because music is loading as its playing if i understand that correctly[14:23:19] <Tomski> You aren't loading them directly before playing are you?[14:24:11] <BCX> Nah, its more like if Gdx.app.newMusic(...) is not null, play it.[14:24:24] <BCX> audio[14:24:25] <BCX> not app[14:24:30] <Tomski> When?[14:24:41] <Tomski> You should load them before hand[14:26:24] <BCX> We are not loading em, I thought you need to load sounds before playing em, not music.[14:26:41] <BCX> Its really like Gdx.audio.newMusic(...).play();[14:26:51] <BCX> atleast for the first time, then we cache it and use that instance instead :)[14:27:12] <Tomski> Yeah, dont play after a call to load[14:27:29] <Tomski> There isn't a gaurentee that they are loaded at that point in time[14:27:56] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has joined #libgdx[14:28:21] <BCX> Yea i see, is there any way to find out if they are loaded or blocking load method ?[14:28:28] <Tomski> no[14:29:39] <BCX> Oh okey, Ill try to load 'em when screen loads.. waay before playing em :) Thanks for the help[14:32:18] *** Fastinyoh <Fastinyoh!~Fastinyoh@204.28.124.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:38:27] *** davimore_ <davimore_!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has joined #libgdx[14:41:36] *** davimore__ <davimore__!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:41:55] *** Isogash 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matrix?[15:11:26] <Ghandhikus> same with getProjectionMatrix[15:12:00] <Ghandhikus> the only difference between them is that z is -1.0 on projection[15:12:49] *** jwinterm <jwinterm!~quassel@c-67-187-195-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[15:18:54] <Ghandhikus> i am using OrthographicCamera if that makes any difference[15:20:55] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@81.20.68.181> has joined #libgdx[15:20:56] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@81.20.68.181> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:21:46] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[15:23:35] <Ghandhikus> yep it doesnt work and i dont get what i do wrong http://pastebin.com/rxbwUER6[15:24:12] <Tomski> getTranslation isnt a valid method for a projection matrix[15:24:36] <Ghandhikus> so how should i get offset out of this?[15:25:30] <Tomski> You dont[15:25:35] <Ghandhikus> i see[15:25:41] <Tomski> If you really want to you can deconstruct the combined projection matrix with a bit of effort[15:25:47] <Tomski> but its not really something you should be doing[15:25:58] <Tomski> You know the offset before hand, so why are you trying to get it from the project matrix[15:26:35] <diphtherial> agreed, constructing matrices is cheap, but storing data in them is error-prone and inverting them can be tricky[15:26:56] *** Kotcrab <Kotcrab!uid51771@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haxowjtkdnbaaydh> has joined #libgdx[15:27:08] <Ghandhikus> i will just pass it with object that contains all the data[15:27:13] <diphtherial> endlessly applying transformations is also error-prone, e.g. rotations often end up producing 'gimbal lock'[15:27:16] <Ghandhikus> the offset i mean[15:30:21] <Ghandhikus> thanks for help[15:34:22] *** realitix <realitix!~Thunderbi@92.103.166.6> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:47:40] *** Ghandhikus <Ghandhikus!~Ghandhiku@host-92-1-230-204.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:55:17] *** rgr 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The thing is when it stretches everything, everything becomes pixelated (as aspected), but I would like to smooth the pixels (like GL_LINEAR for textures). How do I do that?[19:58:50] <Betalord> or, for that matter, how do I do that for entire screen in general (even when not using stretched viewport)?[19:59:21] <Tomski> Thats not a property of a viewport but the textures themselves[19:59:25] <Betalord> and the other question, related to this one, is: how to smooth lines, circles and other stuff drawn with ShapeRenderer?[20:00:19] <Betalord> Tomski: exactly. I used that as an example. What I would like to achieve is similar effect for the entire screen (and not a particular texture).[20:00:48] <Tomski> Thats not how filtering works[20:02:21] *** ficolas <ficolas!5d7295f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.114.149.241> has joined #libgdx[20:03:16] <Tomski> Do you have an example of what you trying to avoid?[20:03:22] *** NooBxGockeL <NooBxGockeL!~NooBxGock@p200300802D2E130089F0B3A84E0272D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:03:23] *** guardianA <guardianA!~guardianA@58-7-202-119.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:03:27] <Betalord> Tomski: if you imagine entire screen as a texture that you stretch (StretchViewport does that), then it is exactly like this that the filtering works[20:03:44] <Tomski> No it doesnt[20:03:55] <Betalord> Tomski: am not trying to avoid anything... I would like to smooth up edges, like I said.[20:05:12] <Tomski> Stretch viewport handles how a viewport resizes based on the screen resolution[20:06:14] <Tomski> As I said, perhaps provide an example if what your issue is[20:06:57] <Tomski> If you are talking about aliasing you can use anti aliasing techniques, and the inbuilt MSAA[20:07:13] <Betalord> yes, I'm talking about anti-aliasing... exactly[20:13:43] <Betalord> when I was still using raw lwjgl, I used GL11.glEnable(GL11.GL_POLYGON_SMOOTH) and GL_LINE_SMOOTH and GL_POINT_SMOOTH ... not sure how to do that in libgdx without actually calling this low level calls?[20:15:11] <Tomski> Use msaa[20:15:28] <Tomski> Configurable in the ApplicationConfiguration[20:17:37] <cackling_ladies> samples right?[20:18:10] *** smelC <smelC!~churlin@gateway.provenrun.com> has quit IRC (Quit: www.schplaf.org/hgames/)[20:18:23] <Betalord> config.samples=2 you mean?[20:18:48] <Betalord> that is, LwjglApplicationConfiguration.samples=2 (or 4 or whatever)[20:19:51] <Betalord> yeah, that's one thing, what about those GL_LINE_SMOOTH and polygon smooth?[20:21:31] *** laubed <laubed!~Thunderbi@p57A94756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[20:23:35] <Tomski> its redundant[20:23:42] *** Freiza <Freiza!~Freiza@117.205.145.160> has joined #libgdx[20:24:38] *** lukass_ <lukass_!~lukass@p5087C924.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:27:25] *** lukass <lukass!~lukass@p5087C924.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[21:05:38] *** davimore_ <davimore_!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:14:00] *** icomputo <icomputo!~saku@148.227.223.248> has joined #libgdx[21:16:44] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5467.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:33:02] *** Keniyal <Keniyal!~Keniyal@unaffiliated/keniyal> has joined #libgdx[21:36:02] *** jonfloren <jonfloren!519b291b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.155.41.27> has joined #libgdx[21:36:08] <jonfloren> Hola... can anyone help me? :)[21:38:24] <Ashiren> can we?[21:38:33] <jonfloren> I mean I'll just type it up anyways, but I'm making an isometric 3D game. I've got an ortho camera, and I've got a player which is a Sprite mapped on one face of a Box with like 0.1f depth[21:38:35] <jonfloren> Ah[21:38:52] <jonfloren> Then I've got some floor which is a bunch of box/model things, and I'm trying to move it accross the floor[21:39:18] *** phibedy <phibedy!~phibedy@ip5f5ac603.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[21:39:20] <jonfloren> but the direction it goes isn't really how I thought it should be, it kinda follows parallel to the edge of the map, rather than left/right how you'd want it to go[21:39:56] *** Freiza <Freiza!~Freiza@117.205.145.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:40:39] <jonfloren> Like I want it to go like this: http://i.imgur.com/Hn8vTvm.png[21:41:08] <jonfloren> But it ends up more like this: http://i.imgur.com/0u8W7Yj.png[21:41:10] <Xoppa> how is your camera setup?[21:41:29] <jonfloren> So it's an ortho camera set at (300, 300, 300) to look at (0, 0, 0)[21:41:31] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has joined #libgdx[21:41:33] <jonfloren> far is 1000f, and that's about it[21:41:47] <jonfloren> Wait it's actually at (300, 360, 360) my bad[21:41:47] <Xoppa> very unlikely[21:42:13] <jonfloren> I'm kinda new to 3D so I'm programming it like a 2D game.. so I think it's my movement code[21:42:17] <Xoppa> pastebin your sscce.org[21:42:29] <jonfloren> Which is basically W => vel = Vector(0, 0, -1)[21:42:45] <jonfloren> Aye ok[21:44:27] <jonfloren> http://pastebin.com/raw/gSTvx71T[21:44:28] <jonfloren> Bam[21:44:48] <Xoppa> click on the link and try again: sscce.org[21:45:05] *** davimore <davimore!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has joined #libgdx[21:45:25] <jonfloren> I mean I'm not quite sure how you would make the problem self contained[21:45:34] <jonfloren> That'd be a pretty long snippet[21:45:38] <Betalord> a quick question: I'm trying to do some custom drawing using opengl in libgdx, and figured I should use ImmediateModeRenderer. Now my question is this: I am already using ShapeRenderer, will the two interfer? Can I use them both?[21:45:59] <Xoppa> if that link didnt help you enough, then try this link: https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Getting-Help make sure to read it entirely[21:46:30] <Xoppa> Betalord, why?[21:46:44] <jonfloren> That's a bit better, ta Xoppa[21:47:01] <Xoppa> what does ImmediateModeRenderer offer you that ShapeRenderer doesnt Betalord?[21:47:18] <Betalord> Xoppa: don't know, perhaps each renderer sets up some stuff like blending on/off and other things and they may duplicate these calls or even contradict one another... I don't know, no idea how's implemented. That's why I'm asking[21:47:45] <Xoppa> no, i am asking why you want to use them both Betalord?[21:48:15] <Betalord> Xoppa: I am trying to implement my own circle rendering and some other drawing routines. I figured I would use ImmediateModeRenderer, but hey, I don't know - if you can suggest me something else, please do![21:48:35] <Xoppa> why did you figure that?[21:48:52] <Xoppa> what the reasoning behind that?[21:49:14] <Betalord> and I was thinking about using them both because I would like to use some drawing routines implemented in ShapeRenderer, others I want to implement myself[21:49:27] <Betalord> the reasoning is this: http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/27651/erasing-part-of-lines-in-libgdx-with-immediatemoderenderer[21:49:55] <Betalord> I obviously can't call those low level gl calls using ShapeRenderer, now can I?[21:50:12] <Xoppa> which low level gl calls?[21:50:30] <Betalord> begin(matrix, GL10.GL_LINES);[21:50:37] <Betalord> vertex(x0, y0, 0);[21:50:38] <Betalord> etc.[21:50:42] <Xoppa> eeeewww[21:50:55] <Xoppa> no, that are NOT low level gl calls[21:50:56] <[twisti]> GL10 ?[21:50:59] <Tomski> lol[21:51:48] <Xoppa> perhaps step back a bit and try to explain what you really want to do Betalord[21:52:33] <Betalord> ok, this is the line routine I would like to write using libgdx: http://pastebin.com/Jdfuxuww[21:52:55] <Xoppa> why?[21:54:03] <Betalord> what kind of question is that? I need it, because I need to draw GL_LINE_LOOP which I need in my custom circle drawing routine, which I want to use because it gives me more control over how to draw circles... I can do much more optimized drawing of circles than ShapeRenderer, together with smoothing and so on[21:54:23] <Betalord> I am testing out different algorithms for drawing circles.[21:54:37] <Betalord> I just want more control over things[21:54:58] <Xoppa> ok, you might want to take another step back[21:55:20] <Xoppa> somehow you got the impression that using a line loop is a good way to render a circle?[21:55:26] <Xoppa> why do you think that?[21:55:53] <jonfloren> Eh I mean it doesn't really answer his question, he just wants to try algorithms in the quickest/dirtiest way possible I presume. As far as I know they dont interefere as long as you begin/end your batch calls accordingly.[21:56:34] <Betalord> Xoppa: please... I just need to access GL calls and do some custom stuff.[21:56:53] <Betalord> Xoppa: It doesn't matter why I need line loops, I just do[21:56:54] <Xoppa> no, jonfloren, he is just posting old and obsolete code and tries to adopt it to a modern graphics pipeline, which is an obvious mistake[21:57:00] <jonfloren> ^^ Maybe it's a deprecated API from like the 90s, but if it gets the job done it works[21:57:03] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has quit IRC ()[21:57:20] <Xoppa> libgdx does not support opengl es 1.x anymore, not should you[21:57:29] <Xoppa> *not=nor[21:57:40] <Tomski> If you want to create crisp line/shape rendering you shouldnt be using primitve rendering at all[21:57:49] <Betalord> ok let me rephrase the question: how do I get to call GL calls in libgdx? Is ImmediateModeRenderer the answer, or should I use something else?[21:58:13] <Xoppa> you get access to all opengl es 2.0 calls using Gdx.gl.xxxx Betalord[21:58:28] <[twisti]> Betalord: a long time ago i got code for this circle drawing code from someone here: http://i.imgur.com/NlXxg8f.png[21:58:40] <[twisti]> its a custom shader, if you want it, let me know and ill dig it up[21:59:06] <Betalord> twisti: not that looks nice! Sure, if you can find it, I'm all for it :)[21:59:10] <Betalord> not=now[21:59:12] <Xoppa> ImmediateModeRenderer is certainly not a class that gives you ¨more control over things¨[22:00:31] <[twisti]> Betalord: can you view https://bitbucket.org/Twisti/tdtest04/src/89504ab3781cd067f960ae279b1be44e85725154/tdtest04/core/src/main/java/com/boringville/td/tdtest04/core/tools/GeometryDrawer.java?at=master&fileviewer=file-view-default ?[22:00:57] <Betalord> Xoppa: em, no, Gdx.gl doesn't have glBegin etc., which I need[22:01:30] <Betalord> twisti: I get an error[22:01:38] <[twisti]> then let me pastebin it[22:02:35] <[twisti]> this is the java code, which relies on two shader files: http://pastebin.com/v8bXPAyP[22:03:31] *** Xoppa_ <Xoppa_!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[22:03:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa_[22:03:34] <[twisti]> this is circle.vert http://pastebin.com/azamKJ8z and this is circle.frag http://pastebin.com/nL6vAe5P[22:03:35] <Tomski> All that fixed pipeline stuff is dead, and shouldnt be used[22:06:04] <Xoppa_> Betalord, glBegin is not supported anymore for quite some time now. it simply isnt part of opengl anymore. The source where you got those snippets is outdated.[22:06:36] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@54689556.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:06:47] *** Xoppa_ is now known as Xoppa[22:08:19] <Betalord> Xoppa: ah ok, didn't know about that. I was thinking that for prototyping it would still be fine[22:08:53] <Xoppa> no it isn´t, which is why i asked what you really want to do, so we can help you do that, Betalord[22:11:04] <Betalord> very well, I'll try to port twisti's code to my project right now. Seems complicated using shaders and all (haven't done that before), but I'll try[22:11:48] <Xoppa> if its just prototyping then you might not have to use shaders, but that depends on what you actually want to achieve[22:14:45] *** jonfloren <jonfloren!519b291b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.155.41.27> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:21:52] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has joined #libgdx[22:23:25] <Betalord> [twisti]: wow, that's a pretty nice circle! It works like a charm. Thanks! :)[22:26:52] <[twisti]> i thought so too, like i said, its not mine, got it from someone else here, sadly dont remember who[22:28:25] <Betalord> now what I'd need is a similar routine that draws a filled circle. Any idea on how to modify that shader to achieve it?[22:29:00] <[twisti]> well, it already fills the circle with a thin layer of red, shouldnt be hard to adjust so its more filled[22:29:38] *** davimore_ <davimore_!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has joined #libgdx[22:32:17] *** davimore <davimore!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:34:14] <Betalord> problem solved, that last line of shader (0.88) tell about the "filled" color. Perfect![22:39:29] <Betalord> btw, does anyone else have this GeometryDrawer that twisti posted? I'd be needing more shapes (polygons, elipses, etc.)[22:39:52] *** phibedy <phibedy!~phibedy@ip5f5ac603.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:42:02] <[twisti]> i know i got it from here and it had a bunch more shapes, maybe someone has it in an old log ?[22:45:45] <intrigus> Happy echelog-searching[22:48:10] *** davimore__ <davimore__!~davimore@253-148-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl> has joined #libgdx[22:49:20] *** laubed <laubed!~Thunderbi@p57A94756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:50:52] *** davimore_ <davimore_!~davimore@46.227.67.83> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:52:19] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@76-217-24-171.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #libgdx[22:54:07] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:00:37] <Betalord> found it! But the link is long dead... it was ParkourGrip[23:09:48] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has quit IRC ()[23:11:35] *** Matseman- <Matseman-!~Matsemann@vps.matsemann.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Ops)[23:12:52] *** Matsemann <Matsemann!~Matsemann@vps.matsemann.com> has joined #libgdx[23:14:33] *** Neomex <Neomex!~Neomex@dub107.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:31:55] *** guardianA <guardianA!~guardianA@58-7-202-119.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #libgdx[23:32:13] *** rgruber_ <rgruber_!~rgruber@cpc12-nmal18-2-0-cust864.croy.cable.virginm.net> has joined #libgdx[23:33:59] *** Shockah <Shockah!~Shockah@aub101.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:34:12] *** rgruber <rgruber!~rgruber@cpc12-nmal18-2-0-cust864.croy.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:43:36] <cackling_ladies> I'm trying to import flash skeletal animation to libgdx. It seems that the general agreed approach is flash -> json -> libgdx. Actual usage is something like flash -> flump ( to convert to json) -> flumpGdx(to make that json usable in libgdx) -> libgdx[23:43:53] <cackling_ladies> is that flumpgdx any good or are there any other recommendation?[23:46:56] <Xoppa> whats a flash skeletal animation?[23:51:34] *** matthewt <matthewt!matthew@namibia.aviation.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:54:43] *** laubed <laubed!~Thunderbi@p57A94756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx