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[00:02:06] <Tomski> wulax: ok, and you get the same error as before?
[00:02:14] <wulax> yeah
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[00:03:44] <Tomski> wulax: what distro are you running on?
[00:03:55] <wulax> Arch Linux
[00:04:19] <wulax> I remember it worked fine like half a year ago
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[00:05:41] <Tomski> wulax: building android natives?
[00:05:51] <wulax> yes
[00:06:28] <wulax> I remember changing some class interfaces in the wrapper, then building and testing them on both desktop and android...
[00:07:38] <Tomski> what ndk are you using?
[00:08:19] <wulax> r13
[00:09:26] <Tomski> wulax: I guess its a versioning problem
[00:10:32] <wulax> yeah, I have no idea which version I used back then unfortunately
[00:10:51] <Tomski> wulax: in gradle/dependencies.gradle, try switching the android sdk to the latest
[00:11:10] <wulax> ok
[00:13:33] <wulax> I have to download it too, so it will take some time
[00:16:20] <Tomski> wulax: https://github.com/android-ndk/ndk/issues/126
[00:17:10] <wulax> interesting, nice find
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[00:43:59] <wulax> Tomski: versions.androidSdk = 24; did not help, same error. latest build tools did not help either :(
[00:44:47] <wulax> well, I have to sleep now, see ya
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[06:46:05] <tian_> libgdx has a ui editor?
[06:46:28] <tian_> Tool chain
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[07:20:31] <iprime> is there a Label font scale action?
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[07:38:19] <iprime> never mind, created my own
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[09:44:50] <[AD]Turbo> ciao all
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[17:39:26] <remonvv> Hi all, beta released our first libgdx game : https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-cubicle/id1071308988 and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mankyscooter.cubicle.android . Looking for some feedback for our update!
[17:39:35] <remonvv> Apologies if this is not the place to ask :)
[17:42:50] <diphtherial> heh, the description is...interesting...
[17:43:33] <diphtherial> the android screenshots are pretty slick; i'll install it and give it a shot
[17:45:09] <diphtherial> personally i really like it when developers include actual changelogs instead of 'bugfixes and performance improvements'
[17:46:06] <remonvv> fair enough :)
[17:46:39] <remonvv> Figured "Made it even more awesome" is less than informative but it there weren't any practical fixes
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[17:57:13] <diphtherial> it's a cool game, just played it in the bathroom a bit
[17:57:19] <diphtherial> i have to ask about 'baby jesse'
[17:57:56] <remonvv> Newborn of my collegue ;)
[17:58:17] <remonvv> He needs diaper money. But there's no monetization so there's a flaw in that plan
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[17:58:46] <iprime> has ST refs, that's cool :)
[17:59:05] <Xoppa> congrats remonvv, looks like fun!
[17:59:10] <remonvv> thanks ;)
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[18:00:32] <diphtherial> one minor point, i think bringing the player back to the level select screen between levels breaks the stride of the game a bit
[18:00:49] <diphtherial> perhaps give them the usual option to continue or return to the menu
[18:01:29] <diphtherial> it's appropriate to return to the level select screen after finishing an episode so they can see the new background and episode title, though
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[18:01:39] <remonvv> yeah we've had that feedback. Good point. We're planning one more "polish" update to get all the UX and other stuff out of the way which is sort of legacy
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[18:24:33] <Shawneth> I'm trying to write a server that loads TiledMap data, but FileHandles only work if initiated inside of ApplicationListeners
[18:24:58] <Shawneth> Is there a way I can load the data without the need of one so I can run it on an SSH server?
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[18:28:20] <Tomski> Shawneth: I assume you mean a headless backend?
[18:28:29] <Tomski> In which case, sure, use the headless backend
[18:28:46] <Shawneth> I never heard of that, I'll look into it
[18:30:42] <Shawneth> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30789626/how-can-i-run-a-libgdx-application-on-a-non-gui-server-environment
[18:30:51] <Shawneth> Is this what I should be doing?
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[18:31:02] <Shawneth> With the mock stuff and all?
[18:32:18] <Tomski> mock shouldnt be required unless you are trying to run non-headless code on the headless machine
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[18:35:25] <Shawneth> Okay, thank you!
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[18:41:21] <mobidevelop> Note: The tile map loader uses non-headless code so if you are using that you'll need to make some changes
[18:41:44] <Tomski> Probably should blame whoever wrote that
[18:42:19] <mobidevelop> Yep
[18:42:37] <diphtherial> tiled has a lot of loaders written in different languages, right? i'm confused about why you'd use libgdx code at all on anything but the client
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[18:43:38] <Tomski> Use same code on server and client for loading the world
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[18:55:19] <dinosaadeh> hello, that is the super noob question.. in a libgdx project.. where do i place a third party jar file :D.. I was reading this http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/81338/using-libraries-in-libgdx but gradle build under core doesn't seem to have dependencies.. + I already downloaded the jar file.
[18:56:53] <diphtherial> dinosaadeh: you can just add the dependencies section if it's not already there, although i'm nearly sure it should be if you're using the project generator
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[18:57:52] <dinosaadeh_> I got disconnected, I hope I didn't miss an answer
[18:59:11] <diphtherial> i don't know how helpful this is, but: < diphtherial> dinosaadeh: you can just add the dependencies section if it's not already there, although i'm nearly sure it should be if you're using the project generator
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[19:01:36] <myke> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20700053/how-to-add-local-jar-file-dependency-to-build-gradle-file
[19:01:39] <myke> maybe
[19:02:14] <Tomski> er
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[19:03:05] <Tomski> dinosaadeh_: if its just a jar, https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Dependency-management-with-Gradle#file-dependencies
[19:03:53] <dinosaadeh_> Tomski: it is this library https://github.com/NetEase/pomelo-androidclient
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[19:06:03] <dinosaadeh> Tomski: can u please resent the link.. I got disconnected
[19:08:05] <Tomski> dinosaadeh: the chat is logged, if you miss messages you can view them https://echelog.com/logs/browse/libgdx/
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[19:08:58] <dinosaadeh> ^.^' some link to remember
[19:09:58] <Tomski> Its in the topic of this channel
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[19:19:16] <dinosaadeh> Tomski: when I include a jar in libs folder.. how can i use it in java file? I did import above the class for the namespace of the jar file but something is still missing
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[19:21:54] <Tomski> Did you refresh gradle?
[19:22:09] <Tomski> And did you make sure its in the correct libs folder for the project you are trying to use it in?
[19:22:42] <Shawneth> @Tomski thank you for pointing me in the right direction with the headless backends, now everything works perfectly.
[19:22:44] <diphtherial> Tomski: related to our discussion of ECSs the other day, do you happen to have a recommendation for one that has actual example code that does something useful?
[19:22:53] <diphtherial> i'm quite disappointed in artemis-odb, although maybe i haven't looked enough
[19:23:28] <Tomski> Shawneth: woop!
[19:24:12] <Tomski> diphtherial: dissapointed in the documentation?
[19:24:29] <Tomski> I dont know of any decent examples off the top of my head
[19:25:15] <diphtherial> Tomski: ah, that's fine, and yes, the documentation. i thought artemis-odb's docs were more fleshed out than ashley after some superficial inspection, but it turns out they're not complete enough to write anything useful
[19:25:49] <diphtherial> (e.g. i have no idea from the docs how to retrieve an entity's component in a system -- all the pieces are there, but no entities end up getting processed...)
[19:26:00] <diphtherial> i don't know, maybe i'll hack on it more at home. at work currently so i can't paste a code sample
[19:26:10] <Tomski> With odb?
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[19:27:54] <dinosaadeh> Tomski: ok.. to refresh gradle, let me see how to do tha
[19:27:56] <dinosaadeh> t
[19:28:36] <Tomski> dinosaadeh: what ide do you use?
[19:28:45] <dinosaadeh> netbeans
[19:28:49] <Tomski> God help you
[19:28:55] <dinosaadeh> lol
[19:29:06] <dinosaadeh> what do u recommend i use.. i mean so far it seems an awesome IDE
[19:29:10] <Tomski> You may have to reimport, but there should be some right click refresh option
[19:30:29] <dinosaadeh> there is a reload project (i think this should do.. however, I got this error http://pastebin.com/6hac9qCH
[19:30:36] <dinosaadeh> what IDE u recommend using?
[19:31:07] <Tomski> I use IDEA, Android Studio and eclipse in that order
[19:31:17] <Tomski> If I can Ill always use IDEA
[19:31:34] <dinosaadeh> I know that android studio is based on IDEA no?
[19:31:38] <Tomski> Yes
[19:31:49] <Tomski> It seems your support library hasnt been found
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[19:33:39] <dinosaadeh> hmmm so basically once I manage to do that.. a simple import com.netease.pomelo; should suffice for me to use it right?
[19:33:42] <diphtherial> Tomski: yeah, with artemis-odb specifically (not sure if that's the only odb)
[19:33:52] <Tomski> dinosaadeh: yep
[19:33:53] <diphtherial> i'm considering giving ashley a shot since it seems to be a little bit more established
[19:34:00] <dinosaadeh> thx Tomski
[19:34:23] <Tomski> diphtherial: you'll probably need to manually add the repository for the android sdk repo
[19:34:31] <Tomski> dinosaadeh: *
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[19:35:53] <Tomski> piphtherial: have you checked out the open source games that use it?
[19:36:14] <Tomski> https://github.com/junkdog/artemis-odb/wiki/Game-Gallery there are many there, most of which use libgdx also
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[19:36:38] <Tomski> i didnt know dog sled saga uesd libgdx, cool stuff
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[19:38:39] <piphtherial> Tomski: i looked at that space sim game, but it appears to be using an older version of the library, when managers were still a thing and aspects didn't exist
[19:38:49] <piphtherial> Tomski: but yeah, that's a good idea; i'll go through them and see if one's current
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[22:56:30] <diphtherial> yeah...no, most of the games are circa 2014-2015; the library has changed completely since then
[22:56:40] <diphtherial> e.g. Entity has been deprecated in favor of integer-based entity IDs
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[23:41:58] <diphtherial> lovely -- afaict the creator of artemis-odb made all these huge changes to the API that nobody ever actually used in a game
[23:42:04] * diphtherial rages to the max
[23:45:46] <matthewt> so what
[23:46:40] <diphtherial> so it's impossible to use because nothing is documented
[23:47:07] <Tomski> which part in particular?
[23:47:29] <diphtherial> here, now that i'm home, i'll paste up some code, one moment
[23:48:55] <diphtherial> i assume this should be as simple as it gets: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/449184/08922147/
[23:49:54] <diphtherial> it throws the following on launch: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/449185/76308986/
[23:50:24] <diphtherial> running it in debug doesn't stop where it's hitting the exception, although mysteriously breakpoints placed in LivingCastleMain's create() method *do* get hit
[23:50:42] <diphtherial> removing the entity causes it to run without an exception
[23:51:05] <diphtherial> oh...wait, i may be super dumb
[23:51:23] <diphtherial> irritatingly there are some files floating around from when i was using kotlin
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[23:52:07] <diphtherial> but just for lulz, i guess, intellij takes you to RenderSystem.java:32 when you click on the reference, not RenderSystem.kt:32, which is apparently what it's using
[23:53:02] <diphtherial> yep, it was apparently using the old build directory sources instead of the new sources
[23:53:12] <diphtherial> that'll teach me to read
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