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[00:41:04] <pleitsi> sup
[00:41:15] <pleitsi> anyone got experience with box2d weld joint?
[00:41:30] <pleitsi> mine goes totally bananas
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[00:41:42] <pleitsi> when it gets hit hard
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[01:04:45] <diphtherial> pleitsi: i'm not very familiar with box2d, but maybe this is relevant?: http://www.box2d.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8651
[01:05:27] <diphtherial> their suggestion of making it all one body might work in your case, though, assuming they don't need to be dynamically connected and disconnected from each other
[01:07:18] <pleitsi> they need to :P
[01:07:49] <pleitsi> am i misconfiguring this somehow
[01:07:54] <pleitsi> because that's possible
[01:08:40] <diphtherial> perhaps paste a code sample?
[01:08:58] <wulax> I remember having that problem with fixed constraints and strong forces in Bullet. iirc using smaller time steps in the simulation helped a bit
[01:10:40] <pleitsi> http://www.binarytides.com/weld-joint-box2d-javascript/
[01:10:44] <pleitsi> that example
[01:10:55] <pleitsi> those joint lines (light blue) are from object to object
[01:11:07] <pleitsi> mine go to the 0,0 in the world
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[01:13:16] <diphtherial> i assume the weld joint's not fighting with some other constraint, like colliding with the body to which it's welded?
[01:13:23] <diphtherial> (reading the code sample slowly)
[01:14:06] <pleitsi> can joints collide with bodies?
[01:14:08] <pleitsi> wut
[01:14:26] <diphtherial> no, like the two bodies are marked to collide with each other, but they're also welded to each other
[01:14:37] <pleitsi> yeah theyre supposed to
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[01:15:55] <Tomski> pleitsi: post code
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[01:37:04] <diphtherial> wrry does intellij leave its old links around after updating?
[01:37:33] <diphtherial> (no need to respond, just expressing -- off-topic -- frustration)
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[02:27:47] <pleitsi> \\\\\o/////
[02:27:48] <pleitsi> fixed
[02:27:56] <pleitsi> totally wrong configuration
[02:28:18] <pleitsi> actually the numbers were right, but the guide was wrong
[02:28:27] <pleitsi> http://box2d.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7100
[02:28:38] <pleitsi> that cpp shows the right way to do it
[02:29:19] <pleitsi> lol, laughing at my own game, is it a good sign? xD
[02:29:27] <pleitsi> been laughing the whole week X)
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[04:53:09] <Me4502-> Hi, just to check, is there an official way to do VisUI by programatically making the skin?
[04:53:15] <Me4502-> Everything seems to require a skin JSON file
[04:53:29] <Me4502-> I want to do it programatically as a lot of the assets are generated on startup
[04:59:40] <TEttinger> good question, Me4502-. I'd think the skin would be a normal libgdx skin file?
[04:59:55] <Me4502-> Yeah, I've done that - hopefully it'll just wokr
[04:59:56] <Me4502-> thanks
[05:00:52] <TEttinger> there's an example here for the normal kind of skin, which I think visui just extends and adds widgets to, and those should be add-able in the same way https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/tests/gdx-tests/src/com/badlogic/gdx/tests/UISimpleTest.java#L37
[05:01:14] <Tomski> Heh
[05:01:45] <Me4502-> Is there any issue with using VisUI?
[05:01:50] <Me4502-> Like is it stable etc?
[05:02:00] <Tomski> Its been around for a while, so Id say so
[05:02:20] <Tomski> Regularly gets updates
[05:02:25] <Tomski> I dont and havent used it though
[05:02:38] <Me4502-> yeah, thanks
[05:02:53] <Tomski> Its built ontop of scene2d so there shouldnt really be any issue
[05:04:17] <Me4502-> also as of 1.9.4 I've had an issue with ScrollPanes being offset from the x position, but I'm going to simplify my UI setup first before properly reporting it
[05:07:57] <Tomski> Me4502-: from 1.9.3 to 1.9.4?
[05:08:05] <Me4502-> I think I went from 1.9.2 to 1.9.4
[05:18:07] <Me4502-> Actually it may have been earlier
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[05:26:01] <Me4502-> Is it possible to somehow get the OSS RoboVM to enable debugging - in that stacktraces show the correct line? I remember the original RoboVM had it as a paid addon
[05:32:03] <TEttinger> I bet it's still a paid addon if you buy mobidevelop a chateau on the French Riviera
[05:32:23] <TEttinger> (surprisingly, not as expensive as living in NYC)
[05:32:55] <Me4502-> :P
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[05:33:26] <TEttinger> https://www.buzzfeed.com/benrosen/6-castles-that-cost-less-than-an-apartment-in-nyc
[05:33:44] <myke> location, location, location
[05:33:55] <myke> out here in montana there's a lot of stunning homes in really irritating locations
[05:34:03] <myke> like an hour drive to anything other than cows
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[05:47:12] <Me4502-> Well this is odd, I'm getting a crash on iOS - but no crash log is generated, and the IntelliJ console just outputs that it exited with code -1
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[05:52:52] <TEttinger> it's because you won the Apple Development Game
[05:55:49] <Me4502-> :)
[05:56:10] <Me4502-> Ended up working where they've hidden the console view in newer xcode releases
[05:56:15] <Me4502-> a memory warning is triggered
[05:56:26] <Me4502-> you'd think that'd generate a crash report, but apparently not
[05:57:32] <Me4502-> Does anyone see something obviously wrong with this code? http://pastebin.com/L01AFrnL
[05:57:36] <Me4502-> It's loading a PDF file
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[08:03:49] <TEttinger> woah, Me4502-, just clicked the link
[08:03:54] <TEttinger> that's complex apple-y code
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[08:58:28] <Me4502-> TEttinger: Yeah... It kills it with memory :P
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[09:51:24] <[AD]Turbo> hi there
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[12:58:50] <metaphore> Tomski, mobidevelop, guys could you please have a look at https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/4357
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[15:01:26] <Ammar> hello ,
[15:02:13] <Ammar> does anyone try to use pomelo faramework with nodejs , and integrate it with libgdx ?
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[16:57:42] <Betalord> hi
[16:58:25] <Betalord> I have a quick question: upon importing a clean libgdx project (created with the generator app), I can't run it. I get the following error: Exception in thread "LWJGL Application" com.badlogic.gdx.utils.GdxRuntimeException: Couldn't load file: badlogic.jpg
[16:59:30] <Betalord> now, looking at the project structure, I'd say that the generator got it wrong. The "assets" folder, where the pic is, is located in the android subfolder instead of the core subfolder. The desktop subfolder also has assets that is a shortcuts to the assets to the android's assets
[16:59:57] <Betalord> So, have oyu got any idea what is wrong? I tried recreating the project numeruous times and it's always the same
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[17:01:04] <Tomski> Set the working directory of the project
[17:01:18] <Tomski> Assets should be in android/assets if you have an anadroid project
[17:01:34] <Betalord> yes I do have an android project (but also a desktop project)
[17:01:47] <Betalord> it should be in "core", as far as I understand
[17:01:52] <Tomski> no
[17:02:01] <Betalord> this is what I saw in some youtube videos anyway
[17:02:03] <Tomski> As I said, it should be in android/assets if you have an android project
[17:02:16] <Tomski> It is only in core/ if you do not have an android project
[17:02:33] <Betalord> hm, OK. So, what do I make it work then?
[17:02:38] <Betalord> what=how
[17:02:39] <Tomski> what ide are you using?
[17:02:42] <Betalord> Eclipse
[17:02:57] <Tomski> Edit the run configuration so the working directory is teh android/assets folder
[17:02:59] <Betalord> I've imported the project as a Gradle project
[17:03:05] <Betalord> ah, ok, just a sec
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[17:04:40] <Betalord> yep now it works
[17:04:54] <Betalord> I think you should add that to the tutorial/documentations, because it's consufing
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[17:10:54] <Betalord> It doesn't work on my virtual android device though, here's the error:
[17:10:57] <Betalord> 10-11 11:05:59.150: E/AndroidRuntime(1863): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate activity ComponentInfo{com.mygdx.game/com.mygdx.game.AndroidLauncher}: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "com.mygdx.game.AndroidLauncher" on path: DexPathList[[zip file "/data/app/com.mygdx.game-2.apk"],nativeLibraryDirectories=[/data/app-lib/com.mygdx.game-2, /vendor/lib, /system/lib]]
[17:11:02] <Betalord> any idea what's wrong?
[17:11:24] <isdera> you should test on an actual android device anyway.. the virtual device is useless
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[17:12:23] <intrigus> Betalord http://www.badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23304&hilit=Unable+to+instantiate+activity
[17:13:40] <Betalord> isdera: I just tested it on my Galaxy S4, exactly the same error
[17:14:11] <isdera> it's probably your run config
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[17:20:34] <Betalord> well, I did what the guy in intrigus's post suggested, and it works now. I just had to include all dependencies... maybe you guys should add that to the docs as well? :)
[17:21:14] <intrigus> Betalord the wiki pages are editable so you can change the docs yourself :)
[17:23:36] <Betalord> Yeah, well, I'm not an expert on this, I'm a beginner, I don't even know what to write (except for the streight solution... but some explanation would be necessary I assume, or maybe some automated solution, not these manual modifications/workarounds)
[17:24:30] <Betalord> I think that the libgdx app generator should be fixed so that it created good eclipse build instead of a flawed one (I imported the eclipse build that it created)
[17:27:13] <Tomski> eclipse and adt make it flawed
[17:27:26] <Tomski> if you run via gradle everything is fine
[17:27:50] <Tomski> There is only so much we can do to hack around eclipse
[17:29:59] <Betalord> are you saying if I import gradle project I won't have these issues?
[17:30:58] <Tomski> If you run via the gradle tasks rather you won't.
[17:31:16] <Betalord> OK, I'll delete everything and try via gradle import... brb
[17:31:21] <Tomski> Thats not what I said
[17:31:27] <Tomski> Import and running are two different things
[17:31:41] <Tomski> You can import as a gradle project and still run android via adt
[17:31:47] <Tomski> And then you'll have the same issue
[17:32:32] <Tomski> Im saying you wont see the issue if you run via gradle tasks instead of adt
[17:32:36] <Betalord> ok, so, what am I supposed to do in order to just import an automated project and it will work without hassle?
[17:32:45] <Tomski> Use a better IDE
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[17:33:06] <Betalord> yeah, I tried Android Studio and decided not to touch it ever again
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[17:33:13] <Betalord> I think Eclipse is just better
[17:33:38] <Tomski> I'd use IDEA
[17:34:09] <Tomski> But you are stuck with tools that google have ditched themselves
[17:34:46] <Tomski> Im revamping the documentation at the moment, so I can have a look at the new builds of eclipse and adt to see if something can be hacked around when I get to it
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[17:36:16] <Betalord> ok, that's great
[17:36:58] <Betalord> do you have some experience with Android Studio btw? I just can't like it, it is incredibly slowly, rebuilding takes like 2 minutes for a basic projects, etc.
[17:37:31] <Tomski> very complex projects take around 1-3 seconds to launch
[17:37:46] <Tomski> Even via gradle builds which used to be very slow are very quick
[17:38:05] <Betalord> well, I do it via gradle buils, and it takes a really long time
[17:38:07] <Tomski> There is also instant run with android, I havent used it myself but apparently its superquick
[17:38:47] <Tomski> What tasks are you running?
[17:39:04] <mobidevelop> Instant Run is amazing when it works and frustrating as hell when it doesn't.
[17:39:12] <Betalord> a single demo application... says "Hello world", that's about it
[17:39:24] <Tomski> What gradle task?
[17:40:00] <Betalord> hm, don't know now, will have to look at it. It wasn't libgdx project though
[17:40:09] <Betalord> was some native demo project
[17:40:24] <Betalord> the one you get from the tutorials section on the main android development page
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[17:51:10] <jeffol> I'm sad to admit I've moved onto using MonoGame/C# over libGDX/Java but also I'm very pleased with the workflow and results
[17:51:31] <jeffol> i liked libgdx a lot, but I don't ever see myself using it again
[17:53:06] <mobidevelop> It happens, certain tools work out better for each of us
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[17:53:56] <jeffol> and for my professional products I'm using Unity because very quick results :P
[17:54:07] <jeffol> quick, dirty, efficient. its just business
[17:54:37] <jeffol> $40/mo for splash screen options. Lol
[17:55:10] <mobidevelop> Money well spent
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[18:02:23] <wulax> Xoppa: regarding that bullet issue I mentioned yesterday: it compiles fine on desktop, but on android I get an error about "undefined reference to vtable" https://gist.github.com/jsjolund/b6b6475bade1ad92f954ab0200984d49
[18:02:32] <wulax> any ideas on what could be wrong?
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[18:03:27] <Xoppa> pastebin the relevant code (dynamics_wrap.cpp:31441) wulax
[18:03:41] <wulax> ok, one sec
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[18:06:12] <wulax> Xoppa: https://gist.github.com/jsjolund/b6b6475bade1ad92f954ab0200984d49#file-dynamics_wrap-cpp
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[18:08:33] <wulax> I found some info about this vtable problem here, not sure if it is relevant http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3065154/undefined-reference-to-vtable
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[18:09:24] <Xoppa> whats up with all the virtual methods wulax? do you want them to be a director?
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[18:09:48] <wulax> no, I have just been experimenting...
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[18:10:15] <wulax> it seems when the setters are not virtual in the header, they get the same error about vtable
[18:10:40] <Xoppa> ditch the destructor and the virtual keyword, you dont need them
[18:10:50] <wulax> ok
[18:11:15] <wulax> I will try recompiling
[18:16:27] <wulax> Xoppa: ok, I updated it and got more errors https://gist.github.com/jsjolund/b6b6475bade1ad92f954ab0200984d49
[18:18:30] <Xoppa> which is dynamics_wrap.cpp:31444 and 31457?
[18:19:01] <wulax> down at the bottom https://gist.github.com/jsjolund/b6b6475bade1ad92f954ab0200984d49#file-dynamics_wrap-cpp
[18:19:03] <Xoppa> ow, heh
[18:19:14] <Xoppa> should read better ;)
[18:19:35] <wulax> no worries
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[18:21:18] <Xoppa> hmmm, cant see any obvious problems
[18:22:10] <wulax> are there any additional environment variables needed?
[18:22:13] <Xoppa> perhaps try a simple class, which doesnt extend anything else, to verify that compiles successfully
[18:22:14] <wulax> I run: ant -f build-android32.xml -DndkSuffix="" -Denv.NDK_HOME="/opt/android-ndk" -v
[18:22:19] <wulax> ok
[18:23:30] <Xoppa> i have the NDK_HOME set on my system, not in command, but i doubt that has something to do with it
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[18:24:19] <wulax> me too, but ant won't recognize it for some reason (on linux)...
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[18:24:43] <wulax> i will try with a simple class and see what happens
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[20:06:39] <wulax> Xoppa: even a very simple class fails to link correctly on android it seems https://gist.github.com/jsjolund/8fa7876289064d1146a5d8b2a6f05e90
[20:06:56] <wulax> no idea what I am doing wrong
[20:07:48] <Xoppa> ow...
[20:08:02] <Xoppa> i think you might need to regenerate a file on linux
[20:08:11] <Xoppa> about which cpp files it has to compile
[20:08:14] <Xoppa> let me check
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[20:08:40] <Xoppa> this one https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/extensions/gdx-bullet/jni/Android.mk wulax
[20:09:15] <wulax> ah, ok, how do I regenerate it?
[20:09:58] <Xoppa> try to run the gdx-bullet project
[20:10:59] <Xoppa> this one: https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/extensions/gdx-bullet/src/com/badlogic/gdx/physics/bullet/BulletBuild.java#L30
[20:13:41] <wulax> thanks, I will try
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[20:30:30] <wulax> it compiles now, thanks Xoppa!
[20:31:27] <Xoppa> yay!
[20:33:47] <wulax> maybe the process of building the bullet wrapper could be added to the wiki? unless it already exits somewhere I haven't found
[20:34:29] <wulax> I could get one started
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[20:39:45] <Shawneth> If I want to use the asset resources in my asset directory, can I load the resources outside of the core-folder?
[20:40:02] <Shawneth> It seems as if I can't through the desktop-project launcher
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[20:47:39] <Xoppa> that would be great wulax!
[20:49:13] <Xoppa> its not clear what you´re asking Shawneth, perhaps show some example
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[21:08:58] <diphtherial> i'm starting to realize there's a lot missing from artemis-odb's wiki
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[22:52:07] <diphtherial> like, why is this the example for an iteratingsystem?: https://github.com/junkdog/artemis-odb/wiki/IteratingSystem
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[23:00:10] <wulax> Xoppa: sorry to bother you again, but after sucessfully compiling Bullet for Android, then running the test suite after installing it on my phone, it does not seem to pack bullet correctly? http://dpaste.com/09DCGPM
[23:00:29] <wulax> I tried running gdx-tests-android from both Eclipse and Idea, same problem
[23:01:50] <wulax> I also tried building it with ./gradlew tests:gdx-tests-android:build, then installing through adb
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[23:04:45] <Tomski> wulax: dont use build
[23:04:52] <Tomski> just installDebug
[23:05:03] <wulax> thanks, I will try it
[23:05:09] <Tomski> wulax: where did you put the natives?
[23:05:41] <wulax> last time I did this i ran: cp libgdx/extensions/gdx-bullet/libs/armeabi/* libgdx/tests/gdx-tests-android/libs/armeabi/
[23:05:44] <wulax> etc
[23:06:34] <wulax> but after compiling with ant -f build-android32.xml it seems to put them there automatically, or at least the md5sums are the same
[23:07:34] <wulax> the compile-natives task says e.g. [exec] [armeabi] Install : libgdx-bullet.so => libs/armeabi/libgdx-bullet.so
[23:08:20] <wulax> but I am not sure what folders those are...
[23:10:30] <diphtherial> interesting, appears that artemis-odb is impossible to debug; it's throwing a null pointer exception, yet it just dies to the console rather than breaking where the exception occurs
[23:10:36] <diphtherial> super cool software
[23:11:26] <TEttinger> diphtherial: how are you running the game, I wonder?
[23:12:15] <diphtherial> TEttinger: via intellij's 'application' run template; i'm feeding it the DesktopLauncher class as the main class and using the classpath for the core module
[23:12:53] <diphtherial> i can set breakpoints that get hit that don't have anything to do with the ECS
[23:13:10] <TEttinger> using the debug button (green beetle image) or the run button (green triangle)? seems like you're debugging it fine
[23:13:13] <diphtherial> it's when the ECS code takes over that it no longer respects my breakpoints for some reason, or breaks when there's an exception
[23:13:29] <TEttinger> there may be an option for debugging outside of your own code
[23:13:51] <diphtherial> that could be it; i'll look into that, thanks
[23:13:58] <TEttinger> it may need the sources downloaded, which gradle can do automatically (right click on dependency, download sources)
[23:15:40] <Xoppa> wulax, i havent used gradle when testing bullet, but if you run from source you need to copy the natives to the correct folder (the armabi/v7 folders), those are located in the test project (they also are fetched when running ant -f fetch.xml)
[23:15:50] <Tomski> wulax: same names as teh previous natives?
[23:16:11] <Tomski> As long as you build to the correct directory gradle picks up whatever is there
[23:19:31] <wulax> Xoppa Tomski: I copied like this http://dpaste.com/3GZTVHS and yes, they are all named libgdx-bullet.so
[23:20:52] <Tomski> I see
[23:20:55] <Xoppa> when in doubt, open the apk and verify the contents wulax
[23:20:58] <Tomski> It shouldnt put them automatically
[23:21:01] <Tomski> there*
[23:21:22] <wulax> ok, I will look at the apk
[23:21:24] <Tomski> Might be worth removing the natives and then doing another build
[23:21:36] <wulax> ok
[23:21:50] <Tomski> a clean might be worth it too on the gradle task
[23:22:03] <Tomski> ./gradlew tests:gdx-tests-android:clean tests:gdx-tests-android:installDebug
[23:22:26] <wulax> I will try your suggestions, thanks guys
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[23:58:58] <wulax> Tomski Xoppa: cleaning, rebuilding bullet, then running installDebug did not help. also, the gdx-tests-android-debug.apk contains the libgdx-bullet.so files http://dpaste.com/0DZYTPG
[23:59:23] <wulax> they have the same checksums as the ones generated by ant build.xml
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