November 27, 2015 
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Feeling safe.[15:39:10] *** Johnade has joined #libgdx[15:40:04] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[15:40:58] <mobidevelop> O.o[15:44:09] *** rottz has quit IRC[15:45:03] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[15:46:22] *** Fastinyoh has joined #libgdx[15:47:19] *** EvilEnti_ has quit IRC[15:48:22] *** gentlemandroid has joined #libgdx[15:48:22] *** aaa801 has joined #libgdx[15:48:22] *** Biliogadafr has joined #libgdx[15:48:22] *** jigidust has joined #libgdx[15:48:22] *** nijotz has joined #libgdx[15:48:22] *** rops has joined #libgdx[15:51:03] *** Biliogadafr1 has joined #libgdx[15:51:47] *** Fastinyoh has quit IRC[15:54:39] *** rottz has quit IRC[15:55:35] *** Biliogadafr has quit IRC[15:56:20] *** badlogic1 has left #libgdx[15:56:23] *** Raziel has joined #libgdx[15:57:27] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[16:02:04] *** mk1 has left #libgdx[16:10:27] *** ajhager has quit IRC[16:11:18] *** Xoppa has joined #libgdx[16:11:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[16:14:12] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[16:14:33] *** Kotcrab has joined #libgdx[16:35:29] *** Johnade has quit IRC[16:36:30] *** Johnade has joined #libgdx[16:37:48] *** VnM has quit IRC[16:38:54] *** bazola has quit IRC[16:41:12] *** Keniyal has joined #libgdx[16:43:24] *** hextileX has joined #libgdx[16:53:09] *** Biliogadafr has joined #libgdx[16:53:47] *** Biliogadafr1 has quit IRC[16:55:52] *** pt has joined #libgdx[16:57:30] *** eyohansa_ has quit IRC[17:07:00] *** davebaol has joined #libgdx[17:07:27] *** davebaol_ has quit IRC[17:10:03] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[17:14:48] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[17:18:26] *** lukass_ has quit IRC[17:20:14] *** EvilEntity has quit IRC[17:24:14] *** isdera has quit IRC[17:28:26] *** ajhager has quit IRC[17:32:41] *** deepinthewoods has joined #libgdx[17:33:26] *** davebaol has quit IRC[17:37:29] *** Johnade has quit IRC[17:46:20] *** deepinthewoods has quit IRC[17:46:24] *** SpookyMachine has quit IRC[17:46:28] *** bazola has quit IRC[17:46:35] *** pt has quit IRC[17:46:38] *** hextileX has quit IRC[17:46:42] *** gentlemandroid has quit IRC[17:46:44] *** aaa801 has quit IRC[17:46:50] *** jigidust has quit IRC[17:46:53] *** nijotz has quit IRC[17:46:55] *** rops has quit IRC[17:50:00] *** Lefanto has quit IRC[17:51:28] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[17:52:11] *** Lefanto has joined #libgdx[17:55:53] *** isdera has quit IRC[17:56:18] *** lapinozz has joined #libgdx[17:56:18] *** deepinthewoods has joined #libgdx[17:56:18] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[17:56:19] *** pt has joined #libgdx[17:56:19] *** hextileX has joined #libgdx[17:56:19] *** gentlemandroid has joined #libgdx[17:56:19] *** aaa801 has joined #libgdx[17:56:20] *** jigidust has joined #libgdx[17:56:20] *** nijotz has joined #libgdx[17:56:20] *** rops has joined #libgdx[17:56:59] *** Murii has joined #libgdx[17:57:23] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[17:58:24] *** abs25 has joined #libgdx[17:59:04] *** vestu has joined #libgdx[18:04:35] *** Ange_blond_ has quit IRC[18:08:17] *** Lefanto has quit IRC[18:09:06] <Bernzel> How do I integrate cURL code? I'm so confused with this: https://parse.com/docs/rest/guide/#files-deleting-files[18:10:43] *** Lefanto has joined #libgdx[18:11:40] *** ajhager has quit IRC[18:12:42] *** Serpent7776 has quit IRC[18:13:13] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[18:15:10] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[18:15:56] <bazola> has anyone thought about making a flight simulator with libGDX?[18:21:04] *** dnyy has joined #libgdx[18:22:49] <dnyy> hey, so i have a (i think) really dumb question but i can't figure it out from googling (not sure what to even google). have never used 3d before so decided to give it a go. i got models rendering and all that. my question is, no idea how to place stuff within the world because nothing has a size? like w/ sprites, you could just say "this (32x32) sprite goes 32px to the right of this one." i'm not sure what the equivalent is for 3d, sinc[18:23:16] <dnyy> reason for this is i'm generating a 2d array dungeon style thing, and trying to place things as a grid basically[18:24:51] *** symatix has quit IRC[18:24:54] *** symatix has joined #libgdx[18:27:16] *** porkotron has quit IRC[18:27:53] *** bazola has quit IRC[18:27:54] *** Lefanto has quit IRC[18:28:03] *** EvilEntity has joined #libgdx[18:33:47] *** jwinterm has quit IRC[18:34:30] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[18:35:17] *** symatix has quit IRC[18:39:08] <wulax> dnyy: everything still has a size in 3d. you can find out the size of a model by calculating its bounding box.[18:39:27] <wulax> modelInstance.calculateBoundingBox(boundingBox);[18:40:07] <wulax> then e.g. boundingBox.getWidth(), height, depth, etc[18:44:22] *** EvilEntity has quit IRC[18:46:52] *** EvilEntity has joined #libgdx[18:47:38] *** bazola has quit IRC[18:52:54] <Xoppa> bananas can be 3d[18:54:54] *** Epoch__ has joined #libgdx[18:54:56] *** EvilEntity has quit IRC[18:57:09] *** Epoch__ has quit IRC[19:03:34] *** Xpe has joined #libgdx[19:06:20] *** Xpe_ has joined #libgdx[19:07:41] *** Xpe has quit IRC[19:08:00] *** JoC has quit IRC[19:08:25] <dnyy> wulax: so i can just use that to place things next to each other i guess? idk why i couldn't find that googling[19:08:37] <dnyy> i was having a hard time wording search phrase maybe[19:08:57] *** JoC has joined #libgdx[19:10:15] <wulax> yep[19:14:52] <dnyy> i think what i meant by not have a size is it depends on camera. so i can't depend on, like, it having a static pixel size to use when drawing the map.[19:15:00] <dnyy> but thanks a ton, been confused on this for like a day lol[19:19:38] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[19:19:41] *** Xpe_ has quit IRC[19:19:44] *** sreich has joined #libgdx[19:19:50] *** vestu has quit IRC[19:19:50] *** vestu has joined #libgdx[19:19:52] *** sreich has quit IRC[19:19:54] *** sreich has joined #libgdx[19:21:23] *** Xpe has joined #libgdx[19:21:46] *** porkotron has joined #libgdx[19:21:56] *** SpookyMachine has quit IRC[19:22:59] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[19:24:11] *** symatix has joined #libgdx[19:24:11] *** FrottyZ has joined #libgdx[19:24:13] <dnyy> wulax: also, if you're just having fun answering questions: i don't really get the unit, thing. like in this tutorial, he spawns like 10 ships and each one is just "1" to the right of the other https://xoppa.github.io/blog/loading-models-using-libgdx/[19:24:44] <dnyy> which i guess is 1 unit, but i'm not sure how you define how big a unit is? like the models i made in blender are based on unit being a meter, but that doesn't really mean anything?[19:25:00] <Xoppa> use your imagination[19:25:16] <wulax> one unit is three bananas[19:25:16] <Xoppa> in most cases one unit is one meter, but it can be whatever you like[19:25:29] *** isdera has quit IRC[19:25:43] *** SpookyMachine has quit IRC[19:25:51] *** linkedinyou has joined #libgdx[19:25:53] <dnyy> right, but then how does setTranslation(1, 0, 0) work so that the models aren't overlapping? like mine just overlap[19:25:59] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[19:26:08] <Xoppa> that depends on how big your models are[19:26:12] <symatix> has anyone tried using box2d without scaling the stuff?[19:26:20] <symatix> I just hate all scaling..[19:26:24] <symatix> it makes things complicated[19:26:31] <Xoppa> symatix, blog.xoppa.com/pixels[19:26:38] <Xoppa> never ever scale anything[19:26:48] <Xoppa> and never ever use the word ¨pixels¨[19:26:58] <dnyy> i get that units are just a thing to keep consistent between models, i just don't get how to translate that to libgdx. so you're just doing 1 unit is like the width of a model, but it might be the my models are like 1000 libgdx units or something?[19:27:04] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[19:27:24] <Xoppa> if your model is 1000 in size then scale it down[19:27:34] <Xoppa> units should be around 1 to 10[19:27:48] <dnyy> well idk how many units it is 'cause that word seems vague and doesn't seem to mean anything lol[19:28:05] <Xoppa> sure it does, it means whatever you want it to mean[19:28:18] <Xoppa> if you are in blender and creating your model, then how do you define its size?[19:28:24] <wulax> just make sure they are smaller than Float.MAX_VALUE[19:28:42] <dnyy> in blender everything is based on meters, i think, and so i have a cube that's just 1 it's a meter width/height/etc[19:28:47] <dnyy> but that is not the same as 1 in libgdx it seems[19:29:06] <Xoppa> then you have exported as centimeter (which is often the default)[19:29:09] <dnyy> cause when i do what you did it's just a ton of cubes like 1px to the right of each other[19:29:19] <Xoppa> just scale it down, if you dont know how to fix that[19:30:07] <symatix> okay thanks I'll check that.[19:30:18] <Xoppa> hmmm... it sounds like you might be using .obj files dnyy[19:30:21] <Xoppa> dont do that[19:30:32] <dnyy> i exported to fbx, then converted to g3db[19:30:37] <dnyy> i'll see if maybe i exported wrong tho?[19:30:44] <dnyy> i didn't check, never used blender until i tried this lol[19:31:18] <Xoppa> im sure you can define it somewhere, but if you cant, then just scale it to whatever size you like[19:31:33] <wulax> in Blender, if you scale a model in "object mode" you should apply the scale with ctrl+A before exporting[19:31:33] *** rgr has quit IRC[19:35:35] *** Xpe has quit IRC[19:35:45] *** hurricaneSlider has joined #libgdx[19:42:48] * sreich begins the process of updating from 1.5.2[19:42:56] <sreich> love me some nice shiny updates :)[19:43:56] <sreich> i do however wish there was a nice spot to see all the updates, their notes, etc[19:44:07] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[19:44:08] <sreich> even if the blog had like a tag..for #update, or something[19:44:51] <Xoppa> sreich, check the CHANGES file in the root of the repo[19:46:01] <sreich> yeah, but doesn't give the nice developer commentary :)[19:46:15] <sreich> also, there's one of these that specifically tells me to change something..changelog doesn't say that, i don't believe[19:47:27] <Xoppa> all api changes as marked as, well, api change[19:47:48] *** Xpe has joined #libgdx[19:48:01] *** Fastinyoh has joined #libgdx[19:52:47] *** Fastinyoh has quit IRC[19:53:32] <sreich> btw you guys know the link here is borked right? https://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/donate.html[19:53:36] <sreich> 'core contributors'[19:54:58] *** dnyy has quit IRC[19:59:00] <sreich> Xoppa: actually no, changelog doesn't say the special changes to your gradle you have to make for ios[19:59:04] <sreich> though at least, that doesn't apply to me[19:59:40] <Xoppa> thats correct it only shows api changes[19:59:51] <Xoppa> *whether the api is changed[20:01:19] *** EvilEntity has joined #libgdx[20:02:56] *** isdera has quit IRC[20:09:47] *** absof25 has quit IRC[20:11:51] <sreich> hhhmm crap, scene2d.utils.ALign, symbol not found...[20:12:38] <Xoppa> which link is borked sreich?[20:12:45] <sreich> Xoppa: core contributors one[20:13:00] <sreich> https://github.com/orgs/libgdx/members[20:13:40] <Xoppa> ow, lets see if i can fix that[20:13:45] *** davebaol has joined #libgdx[20:14:50] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[20:15:21] <sreich> nvm, fixed scene2d issue[20:15:56] <Xoppa> not sure how to rebuild the site, but when it is done it should be fixed: https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx-site/commit/47d522a9fd14c24e0010a057b038426d5efc4109[20:17:52] *** Biliogadafr has quit IRC[20:18:29] *** Biliogadafr has joined #libgdx[20:27:05] *** absof25 has quit IRC[20:33:20] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[20:33:32] <sreich> has anyone tried to do fancy things with the tooltip in scene2d?[20:33:50] <sreich> outside of the basic "this button does ..."[20:33:53] <bazola> ive done mousover tooltip stuff but i did it manually[20:34:20] <sreich> see i thought about that..and actualyl started to, but in the time i was away, it was added to scene2d :D[20:34:40] <sreich> i don't think it had any tooltip functionality before that[20:35:11] <bazola> i think it took about 20 lines of code[20:35:55] <sreich> yea[20:36:08] <bazola> using hoverlistener to enable and disable the hover table[20:36:33] <bazola> while its open, the table is positioned at the location of the mouse cursor[20:36:51] <sreich> i was a bit weary on using scene2d for in-game ui things...i'm not exactly sure where to draw the line[20:37:29] <bazola> i like the simplicity of it[20:37:41] <sreich> i guess for things like..say, in-game damage per second indicators (the kind that jump out and fade away), that is one case where it is prolly better to do that by hand[20:37:57] <sreich> as i wouldn't expect it to allow complex transformations kinda thing[20:38:06] *** lapinozz has quit IRC[20:39:20] <bazola> it is still possible to move things around when they are part of a table, but you do have to convert coordinates and crazy stuff like that[20:43:13] *** hextileX has quit IRC[20:44:57] *** intrigus has joined #libgdx[20:47:36] <EvilEntity> lights! https://twitter.com/evilentity/status/670308182695288832[20:49:49] <bazola> thats awesome[20:50:20] <sreich> very nice[20:50:22] <sreich> got source?[20:51:37] *** Harha_ has joined #libgdx[20:55:40] <intrigus> Yeah[20:56:25] *** eyohansa has joined #libgdx[20:56:43] <intrigus> iMac <3[20:58:19] <EvilEntity> it will end up in box2dlights eventaully[20:58:49] <sreich> kewl[21:00:17] <EvilEntity> but if you insist on finding some bugs https://bitbucket.org/evilentity/perfectlights[21:01:40] <sreich> eeeehhh how doeds one upgrade gradle?[21:01:49] <sreich> like..is this something you specify in your build.gradle file?[21:02:28] <sreich> ./gradlew --version says 2.2[21:08:10] *** lukass has joined #libgdx[21:09:12] <EvilEntity> ofc noone cares to help[21:09:26] <EvilEntity> replace your current one with latest[21:10:21] <sreich> not sure what that means[21:10:29] <sreich> my build.gradle has no mention of a version[21:10:34] <sreich> (for itself)[21:14:47] *** BeautiCode has joined #libgdx[21:17:43] <BeautiCode> Anyone mind taking a look at this? http://www.badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21183[21:17:46] *** LiquidNitrogen has joined #libgdx[21:24:29] *** FrottyZ has quit IRC[21:24:37] <EvilEntity> sreich: download latest version from gradle.org and replace tour current one, be it in wrapper or global[21:25:03] <sreich> oh, interesting..i didn't realize i had to do that at all. i figured it'd have a neat way of updating..itself[21:25:54] <EvilEntity> if you have it installed and you are on non windows you can do that with your package manager[21:26:22] <EvilEntity> BeautiCode: your code is not beati, fix it and maybe someone will care to take a look[21:26:27] <intrigus> BeautiCode I'd suggest that you rewrite everything. If you don't want that, I'd suggest that you remove your camera, because ScreenViewport creates it's own camera, you don't have to supply one.[21:26:53] <sreich> oooh okay, it's from the system..[21:27:05] <sreich> i thought it was something i had to do to my repo[21:27:14] *** TEttinger has joined #libgdx[21:27:36] <BeautiCode> Alright, thanks @EvilEntity & intrigus[21:27:44] * sreich realizes he..didn't even have it installed[21:27:55] <sreich> maybe intellij had a default, very old one bundled ig uess[21:27:56] <EvilEntity> BeautiCode: make http://sscce.org/ perhaps it will clear things up for you[21:28:34] *** bazola has quit IRC[21:28:34] <EvilEntity> do you have gradle folder in your repo? if so, its in there[21:28:53] <sreich> yes[21:29:18] <BeautiCode> Interesting site[21:29:20] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[21:29:24] <sreich> crap..is gradle/ even supposed to be in the scm?[21:29:44] *** BlueProtoman has joined #libgdx[21:30:16] *** BlueProtoman has left #libgdx[21:31:24] <TEttinger> .gitignore should be generated by the setup tool[21:32:17] <sreich> ah, indeed..the gradle/ and .jar is supposed to be there[21:33:06] <TEttinger> these lines should be present in .gitignore , but .jar should not be automatically ignored. https://github.com/SquidPony/SquidLib/blob/master/squidlib/src/gdx_test/.gitignore#L57-L61[21:33:15] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[21:34:33] <sreich> yeah, was referring to gradle/, not .gradle/[21:35:18] <TEttinger> ah ok[21:35:39] <TEttinger> i wasn't sure if you were saying "supposed to be there" as "supposed to be in .gitignore"[21:36:18] *** FrottyZ has joined #libgdx[21:43:44] *** Scellow has joined #libgdx[21:45:05] *** Scellow has quit IRC[21:49:31] *** Fastinyoh has joined #libgdx[21:53:14] *** xylen has joined #libgdx[21:53:32] *** Fastinyoh has quit IRC[21:56:20] *** SpookyMachine has quit IRC[21:56:24] *** SpookyMa_ has joined #libgdx[21:57:12] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[21:58:59] *** icedp has quit IRC[22:03:58] *** bazola has quit IRC[22:08:12] *** EvilEntity has quit IRC[22:09:24] *** EvilEntity has joined #libgdx[22:13:59] *** EvilEntity has quit IRC[22:14:13] <Bernzel> Can I start/end my spritebatch twice in render?[22:14:33] <sreich> yes[22:14:36] <sreich> as many times as you want[22:14:54] <sreich> and actually..in some cases, you'd want to[22:14:59] <Bernzel> lovely. Thanks[22:16:13] *** LostWarrior has joined #libgdx[22:18:29] <TEttinger> starting and ending spritebatch is a bit expensive for performance (I think just ending maybe, not sure).[22:19:39] <TEttinger> there are cases where an effect relies on multiple spritebatches or multiple "passes", and it's totally fine if the look needs it[22:19:50] <sreich> sure, expensive compared to one batch[22:20:11] <sreich> but even still, eg gpus can handle thousands of texture switches, depending on your target[22:20:16] <sreich> or...only a few ;)[22:20:29] *** eyohansa has quit IRC[22:22:41] <sreich> i guess you could consider ending a spritebatch as expensive..because it synchronously calls to the driver more heavily..[22:25:41] *** Fastinyoh has joined #libgdx[22:26:18] <ASneakyFox> yeh but theres nothing wrong with having multiple batches in a frame, just if you can do it without multiple sprite batches then that would be more peformant[22:26:26] *** Fastinyoh has quit IRC[22:26:41] <ASneakyFox> which i guess is sort of what you just said ^.^[22:30:58] *** n3o59hf has quit IRC[22:33:47] *** isdera has quit IRC[22:34:05] *** isdera has joined #libgdx[22:40:01] *** FrottyZ has quit IRC[22:40:37] *** FrottyZ has joined #libgdx[22:41:02] *** Nako_ has quit IRC[22:42:12] *** EvilEntity has joined #libgdx[22:42:43] *** vestu has quit IRC[22:49:16] *** Fastinyoh has joined #libgdx[22:50:49] *** Fastinyoh has quit IRC[22:52:41] *** FrottyZ has quit IRC[23:01:15] *** LostWarrior has quit IRC[23:04:50] *** FrottyZ has joined #libgdx[23:09:30] *** Murii has quit IRC[23:11:04] *** EvilEnti_ has joined #libgdx[23:14:45] *** FrottyZad has joined #libgdx[23:15:26] *** EvilEnti_ has quit IRC[23:16:08] *** FrottyZ has quit IRC[23:18:55] *** eyohansa has joined #libgdx[23:21:30] *** bazola has joined #libgdx[23:21:58] *** SpookyMa_ has quit IRC[23:23:39] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[23:24:09] *** SpookyMachine has joined #libgdx[23:24:10] *** bazola has quit IRC[23:25:25] *** absof25 has quit IRC[23:36:26] *** gentlemandroid has quit IRC[23:41:35] *** Xpe has quit IRC[23:47:19] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[23:50:18] *** abs25 has quit IRC[23:51:20] <FrottyZad> Kotcrab is there the possibility to have a "folder-view" inside a viswindow? Basically the folder selection part of the filechooser, but I want to set a fixed folder to be displayed.[23:54:59] *** eyohansa has quit IRC[23:56:48] <FrottyZad> Kotcrab and how do i access the existing icons[23:58:27] <Kotcrab> FrottyZad: no, it's not. You have to make your own. For icons you can just you do VisUI.getSkin().getDrawable("icon-name")[23:58:45] <FrottyZad> the names are in json?[23:58:58] *** Xpe has joined #libgdx[23:59:41] <Kotcrab> They are the names of png files inside assets-raw (I'm on phone, can't link)