October 31, 2014 
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October 31, 2014 [00:00:09] <dermetfan> in other words, make menuDest.elements final. where you currently use =, use clear() and addAll(..).[00:00:10] <bluszcz> ok, i am missing something,[00:01:03] <bluszcz> dermetfan: sec[00:02:46] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[00:04:12] <bluszcz> dermetfan: works, Xoppa: thx. i understand now problem with reference and adding elements to assigned reference.[00:06:12] *** eReS has quit IRC[00:07:10] *** derferman has quit IRC[00:08:58] *** nick_coden is now known as nick-chls[00:19:05] *** Xoppa has quit IRC[00:20:23] *** LordDVG has quit IRC[00:21:01] <kalle_h> I readed dozens of papers of advanced motion blur techniques and wondered how I should do this for hours. But when I actually tested my motion blur with good settings and I needed to add debug option to pause frame but still preserve motion vectors, bring camera almost 10cm away from problem spot and I needed to multilply motion vectors bu factor of two to even see the problem in still shot. I noticed that I am worrying it too much[00:21:54] <TEttinger> really, kalle_h?[00:21:57] <indiepig> lol[00:22:16] <TEttinger> is there such a thing as worrying too much about appearances[00:22:40] <indiepig> yes[00:22:41] <indiepig> yes there is[00:22:57] <indiepig> say the pig[00:23:11] <jeffol> bacon[00:24:01] <kalle_h> TEttinger: problems are easy to see if you use crazy not physically based settings[00:24:05] *** kjempff has quit IRC[00:25:32] <kalle_h> but If I just disallow such settings and use my time wiser to somewhere else[00:25:39] <kalle_h> I will be lot saner[00:26:07] <kalle_h> but now I am doing same for temporal AA but this time the artifacts are there and they can be horrendous[00:27:11] <kalle_h> but more I read this I think I will use something simple. http://advances.realtimerendering.com/s2014/drobot/HRAA_notes_final.pdf[00:27:21] <kalle_h> So not something like that[00:33:05] *** dajos77 has quit IRC[00:34:05] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[00:35:49] *** DarkNarayan has quit IRC[00:36:13] *** DarkNarayan has joined #libgdx[00:43:36] *** hextileX has quit IRC[00:44:34] *** Cethos has joined #libgdx[00:46:27] *** DarkNarayan has quit IRC[00:47:42] *** Guest97982 has quit IRC[00:49:12] *** jeffol has quit IRC[00:49:30] *** Guest83031 has quit IRC[00:53:59] *** deniska has quit IRC[00:55:16] *** tny has joined #libgdx[00:55:55] *** tny has quit IRC[00:58:24] <qaisjp> hey, i created my world like in the box2d tutorial[00:58:32] <qaisjp> and my thing falls reaaally slowly[00:58:43] <qaisjp> im using the exact dt passed from graphics.getDeltaTime[00:58:44] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[00:59:19] <qaisjp> nvm[00:59:23] <qaisjp> divde by 1000 i guess[01:00:01] <qaisjp> 60[01:00:10] <qaisjp> 1000[01:00:24] *** nooone has quit IRC[01:01:23] <qaisjp> nope[01:01:25] <qaisjp> wrong each time[01:01:55] <kalle_h> don't use pixels are world units[01:02:22] <qaisjp> oh ofc[01:02:23] <qaisjp> that reminds me[01:02:24] <kalle_h> box2d caps velocity to about 100m/s[01:02:43] <qaisjp> we used to use 64 or 32 in love2d.org as the units[01:02:44] <qaisjp> shame on me[01:02:45] <kalle_h> so if you use pixels instead of meters as units then its will ruin your simulation[01:02:46] <qaisjp> so simple[01:02:46] <qaisjp> thanks[01:02:49] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[01:03:16] <kalle_h> lot cleaner way than hacky magic constants is to design your game in box2d units[01:03:38] <qaisjp> yay[01:03:41] <qaisjp> works fine now, cheers[01:03:42] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[01:03:48] <kalle_h> and then just make camera with same units and only place that knows about pixels is rendering like it should be![01:04:20] *** dajos7 has quit IRC[01:04:49] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[01:05:21] *** kalle_h has quit IRC[01:05:44] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[01:07:26] *** derferman has quit IRC[01:14:18] *** SonnyCh has joined #libgdx[01:14:43] <SonnyCh> Hi! Anyone familiar with tiles + box2d in at a time like this? :)[01:16:55] *** indiepig has quit IRC[01:20:29] <dermetfan> just ask your question[01:20:31] <SonnyCh> Well, I'm stating my question, and if you want to put up a nice little answer, feel free :)[01:21:37] <SonnyCh> Is there any easy way to have box2d's that can be put into a TileLayer and thereby easily sorted on height and therefor possible to create a 2.5d feeling?[01:24:22] <dermetfan> you can't literally put bodies on tile layers. why would you? You can use body.getPosition().y to sort them by their y coord (or did you really mean height?)[01:24:25] <SonnyCh> I'm now having a TileLayers generated from Tiled, and then Box2D's also generated from Tiled. Now my Box2d moves around and therefor I want them to both be infront of a layer and behind the same layer (depening on y-orientation).. I have created a way to do this for my player, since I only need to render everthing that has a y < player.y and then render player, and hten render everything with[01:24:26] <SonnyCh> y > player.y[01:25:09] <SonnyCh> But I want to do that for every item..[01:25:50] <SonnyCh> No, I understand that I can't put bodies on TileLayers, I meant to put their content (their tile) on the tile layer.[01:28:14] <SonnyCh> Do you understand my problem? I don't want to sort only the bodies. I want to sort everything visible (tiles, bodies) and then rendered it from upperleft to lowerright.[01:29:11] <SonnyCh> Now I use a modified Orthogonal Renderer in order to render everything above the player-body first, then render the player body, and then render everything below the player body.[01:30:05] *** dajos7 has quit IRC[01:31:05] <dermetfan> well you would have to feed your custom renderer with y coords for the body sprites so it can sort them...[01:31:44] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[01:31:52] <SonnyCh> Well, you can see how my custom renderer works here[01:31:52] <SonnyCh> http://pastebin.com/aQXvXAGn[01:32:06] <SonnyCh> (almost a copy of the orthogonal renderer)[01:36:38] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[01:39:28] *** MousTO has quit IRC[01:40:11] *** ruben01 has joined #libgdx[01:40:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ruben01[01:40:50] *** rottz has quit IRC[01:48:05] *** debugger has joined #libgdx[01:51:47] *** deBugger_ has quit IRC[01:53:01] *** rockstar8577 has joined #libgdx[01:55:58] *** Guest97982 has joined #libgdx[01:59:01] <dermetfan> SonnyCh: one approach would be to put all the sprites in an Array, sorted by their y coord. Then in the custom renderer check if there is a sprite with lower y coord every time you want to render a tile and render the sprite first.[02:01:26] *** BlueProtoman has joined #libgdx[02:05:32] *** n3o59hf_atlas has quit IRC[02:06:14] *** Lecherito has quit IRC[02:06:29] *** Guest97982 has quit IRC[02:09:27] *** SgtCoDFish has quit IRC[02:12:01] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[02:14:09] <SonnyCh> That's a great idea..! I thought of something similar (after your previous hint) but am too tired to finish anything tonight.. Hopefully I get it to work tomorrow :) Thank you so much for your help :)[02:15:49] <SonnyCh> G'night to you all! :)[02:15:52] *** SonnyCh has quit IRC[02:17:47] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[02:18:56] *** Cethos has quit IRC[02:20:01] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[02:21:00] *** Patriick has joined #libgdx[02:21:31] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[02:22:46] *** ThePixelMonster has quit IRC[02:29:44] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[02:33:01] *** dysoco has joined #libgdx[02:33:45] <dysoco> Can anyone tell me what's the absolute minimum necessary to compile a LibGDX game for Android 4.4? I have a really slow internet connection and the SDK update is taking ages, and I don't think I need the whole 9Gb or whatever it's pulling currently.[02:33:55] <dysoco> I mean I'm not using emulators or UI libraries or anything[02:36:49] <dermetfan> only SDK Platform may be enough[02:37:34] <dysoco> hm I'll see[02:39:24] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[02:44:01] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[02:44:04] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[02:48:29] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[02:49:30] *** Qowface has left #libgdx[02:50:58] *** dajos7 has quit IRC[02:57:34] *** davebaol has quit IRC[02:59:22] *** dermetfan has quit IRC[02:59:33] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[03:02:34] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[03:06:52] *** Guest97982 has joined #libgdx[03:07:02] *** derferman has quit IRC[03:10:22] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[03:16:33] *** nick-chls is now known as nick-cdn[03:17:54] *** Guest97982 has quit IRC[03:22:35] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[03:40:03] *** arkenox has left #libgdx[03:40:26] *** rockstar8577 has quit IRC[03:41:12] *** arkenox1 has joined #libgdx[03:44:59] *** warmwaffles has joined #libgdx[03:52:33] *** qaisjp is now known as qaisjp`[03:55:18] *** dysoco has quit IRC[03:58:12] *** ruben01 has quit IRC[04:00:12] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[04:00:21] *** arkenox1 has left #libgdx[04:02:23] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[04:03:23] <TEttinger> everyone with a game in any app store, ask this woman to review your game. http://www.amazon.com/review/R1NJ2T9IRJH056/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm[04:03:28] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[04:03:40] <TEttinger> her review for a set of speakers was "youtube can be played on it"[04:04:02] <TEttinger> 5 stars[04:04:19] <TEttinger> though another one was 1 star for a windows program she bought for her mac[04:04:55] *** derferman has quit IRC[04:05:08] <sinistersnare> i love that the review is more of a review of youtube than the speakers[04:05:18] <sinistersnare> god damn[04:05:19] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[04:05:29] <TEttinger> it's incredible[04:08:45] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[04:11:31] *** derferman has quit IRC[04:13:11] <cobolfoo> need someone to test a game prototype over network[04:13:14] <cobolfoo> someone interested ?[04:14:05] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[04:15:05] <warmwaffles> 7 hours later and my RAID array is still rebuilding[04:15:11] <warmwaffles> 21%[04:15:22] <cobolfoo> hehe I had this issue once, now I use lsyncd :)[04:16:13] <warmwaffles> doesn't help when the array is being expanded...still has to do its thang[04:17:19] <warmwaffles> though lsyncd does look cool[04:17:22] <warmwaffles> I haven't used it before[04:17:28] <warmwaffles> good ole' rsync and SCP[04:17:31] <cobolfoo> poor m an s olution :)[04:17:39] <cobolfoo> but I could tell you I use it on several servers to mirror disks[04:17:56] <cobolfoo> and it's very stable[04:19:09] <warmwaffles> I'll bet it is, it's on top of rsync[04:20:15] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[04:20:53] *** derferman has quit IRC[04:21:10] <cobolfoo> I think asking for beta-testers at 11h20 PM is not the perfect time :)[04:26:11] <warmwaffles> probably not[04:27:32] <warmwaffles> currently having to break a shared bit of code out of three projects and put it in one place[04:27:47] <cobolfoo> private github?[04:27:58] <warmwaffles> private bitbucket[04:27:59] <warmwaffles> cuz free[04:28:24] <warmwaffles> will be open source once I get shit together and working[04:36:35] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[04:38:37] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[04:40:59] *** TheUnkn0wn0ne has quit IRC[04:48:30] *** StefanW has joined #libgdx[04:49:02] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[04:49:30] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[04:49:50] *** arkenox1 has joined #libgdx[04:49:57] *** arkenox1 has left #libgdx[04:52:52] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[04:54:53] *** ZettaBlade has quit IRC[04:56:19] <StefanW> Hey guys, need some help here. I'm trying to use a FrameBuffer Object with depth and stencil, but I get a error on the constructor: "Exception in thread "LWJGL Application" java.lang.IllegalStateException: frame buffer couldn't be constructed: unsupported combination of formats" . Anyone knows what to do?[04:57:28] <StefanW> I have already tried all formats, RGBA888, RGBA444, RGB888, etc. no success.[05:01:16] <warmwaffles> no clue, mobidevelop may have some insight[05:01:58] *** catsandcode has joined #libgdx[05:06:34] *** log_ has joined #libgdx[05:09:52] *** log` has quit IRC[05:11:06] *** warmwaffles has quit IRC[05:15:16] *** nexsoftware has joined #libgdx[05:15:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o nexsoftware[05:15:38] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[05:18:10] *** andymac has joined #libgdx[05:20:01] <andymac> Hi, if I wanted to start my android app in a normal activity, would this simply be a change in the manifest to make the new activity the one seen in the launcher, then start the AndroidLauncher activity when I wanted to start the game?[05:20:01] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[05:20:57] *** ZettaBlade has joined #libgdx[05:26:33] *** linbob has joined #libgdx[05:26:34] *** ZettaBlade has joined #libgdx[05:31:06] *** ZettaBlade has quit IRC[05:32:16] *** andymac has left #libgdx[05:35:03] *** deBugger_ has joined #libgdx[05:38:20] *** ASneakyFox has quit IRC[05:38:35] *** debugger has quit IRC[05:44:57] *** log_ has quit IRC[05:46:24] *** Raziel has quit IRC[05:49:04] *** Lars__ has joined #libgdx[05:52:47] *** Scrittl_ has quit IRC[05:53:52] *** StefanW has quit IRC[06:00:50] *** Tann_ has quit IRC[06:02:16] *** linbob has quit IRC[06:03:32] *** log_ has joined #libgdx[06:05:40] *** Guest46127 has quit IRC[06:13:35] *** catsandcode has quit IRC[06:13:38] *** Sadale has quit IRC[06:19:35] *** LiquidNitrogen has quit IRC[06:22:55] *** ZettaBlade has joined #libgdx[06:24:03] *** loogie has joined #libgdx[06:24:32] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[06:30:11] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[06:35:12] *** seitensei has quit IRC[06:36:58] *** seitensei has joined #libgdx[06:37:47] *** joshuafcole has quit IRC[06:38:54] *** BlueProtoman has quit IRC[06:39:20] *** sinistersnare has quit IRC[06:44:24] *** lasserix has quit IRC[06:51:30] *** nexsoftware has quit IRC[06:59:41] *** tenseiten has joined #libgdx[07:01:28] *** seitensei has quit IRC[07:02:27] *** Keniyal has quit IRC[07:09:52] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[07:12:41] *** Guest97982 has joined #libgdx[07:16:06] *** Guest97982 has quit IRC[07:32:06] *** tomzsa has joined #libgdx[07:37:24] *** derferman has quit IRC[07:50:12] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[07:55:42] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[08:08:12] *** tomzsa has quit IRC[08:09:04] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[08:20:02] *** derferman has quit IRC[08:20:19] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[08:20:41] *** mk1 has joined #libgdx[08:26:38] *** deBugger_ has quit IRC[08:26:59] *** m3t4lukas has joined #libgdx[08:27:06] <m3t4lukas> hey guys :)[08:27:22] *** deBugger_ has joined #libgdx[08:29:17] <m3t4lukas> has anyone else the problem that every time you start eclipse it changes the library export of libraries like "google-play-services_lib" to export "Android Private Libraries" and "Android Dependencies"?[08:29:46] <m3t4lukas> I googled it up, but nobody except me seems to have this problem[08:30:33] *** tomzsa has joined #libgdx[08:31:34] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[08:36:50] <ZettaBlade> People still use eclipse?[08:38:49] <m3t4lukas> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=60128[08:39:07] <m3t4lukas> what about people still use eclipse? :O[08:39:15] <m3t4lukas> what alternative is there?[08:40:52] <ZettaBlade> I use android studio[08:40:57] *** andrew710 has joined #libgdx[08:41:02] <ZettaBlade> Then again, I just code for android[08:41:14] <ZettaBlade> I guess android studio isn't cross platform?[08:42:22] *** derferman has quit IRC[08:43:37] *** tomzsa has quit IRC[08:44:03] <m3t4lukas> ZettaBlade: well most important is, Android studio is only about android. There's no modeling tools, so for larger projects there's just no way to manage the mess without using extra tools. In eclipse I have them all in one. And they even are the best Project support you get out there at that price :P[08:44:33] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[08:45:11] <ZettaBlade> Makes sense[08:45:31] <m3t4lukas> Android Studio has a loooooooooong way to go to be able to replace eclipse for me. Does it have git support?[08:45:34] *** Guest83031 has joined #libgdx[08:45:37] <ZettaBlade> Intellij totally rules, but $99 isn't exactly cheap[08:45:44] <ZettaBlade> Yea it does[08:46:24] <m3t4lukas> Eclipse can do more than Java ;) That's important, too.[08:48:21] <ZettaBlade> People still use languages other than java?[08:48:23] <ZettaBlade> Jkjk[08:48:49] <mk1> ugh, brainfuck and shakespeare[08:49:05] <mk1> ugh = Ook[08:49:25] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[08:49:32] <m3t4lukas> ever tried to write something fast using Java? :P[08:50:30] <ZettaBlade> I usually write everything fast, language doesn't really matter to !e so much anymore.[08:51:06] <m3t4lukas> I don't meant coding fast, I meant make it run fast[08:52:37] <m3t4lukas> there's either a way I did not found yet or Java is not able to run... It just walks[08:53:24] <ZettaBlade> Eh, java ain't that bad.[08:53:44] <ZettaBlade> Could be worse. Could be interpreted python.[08:54:20] <ZettaBlade> How are the eclipse plugins for c?[08:54:46] <ZettaBlade> I haven't ever really used them? Is there cmake support?[08:55:37] *** megasoft78 has joined #libgdx[08:55:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o megasoft78[08:55:46] <megasoft78> goodmorning :)[08:58:33] <andrew710> hello. I use Label to display a multiline text. When the text is too long, the text height overflow label's max height. How can i limit the text in label, text don't daw outside label?[08:58:56] *** LiquidNitrogen has joined #libgdx[09:01:07] <mk1> andrew710: you can't[09:02:28] <mk1> andrew710: to be more specific, a label can't[09:02:44] <mk1> you can however use a Container[09:04:24] <mk1> and setClip[09:04:26] <andrew710> mk1: i read Label source code, can't find the limitation about text height.You mean ,i should put label in a group?[09:04:45] <mk1> yeah. container might be more lighweight, but yes[09:05:05] <andrew710> mk1: thank you . i get it.[09:05:40] <mk1> beware that this increases the number of draw calls[09:06:29] <andrew710> mk1: ok ,thank you[09:08:10] <ZettaBlade> Would a scrollpane help you? That way you could keep the text and not have to cut it off.[09:09:04] <mk1> I'd really like to see an option in Label to clip text using "..." when it doesn't fit[09:09:44] <ZettaBlade> Ah I see[09:11:35] <mk1> uh, I think that exists[09:12:52] *** ZettaBlade has quit IRC[09:16:25] *** Guest83031 has quit IRC[09:16:44] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[09:21:34] <m3t4lukas> ZettaBlade: I don't know whether there is cmake support, but there's autotools support[09:24:27] *** ajhager has quit IRC[09:26:44] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[09:27:38] *** davebaol has joined #libgdx[09:34:51] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[09:38:51] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[09:40:19] *** derferman has quit IRC[09:41:09] *** LiquidNitrogen has quit IRC[09:43:53] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[09:50:00] *** andrew710|2 has joined #libgdx[09:53:49] *** andrew710 has quit IRC[10:02:34] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[10:04:07] *** Symyon has joined #libgdx[10:06:30] *** Oebele has joined #libgdx[10:07:19] *** derferman has quit IRC[10:07:48] *** tomzsa has joined #libgdx[10:10:21] <mk1> how would I implement a ui widget that shows a graph?[10:10:55] *** log_ has quit IRC[10:11:46] <mk1> I'm not fond of using a shape renderer because of the ART/dalvik issue[10:12:07] *** doev has joined #libgdx[10:20:41] *** tomzsa has quit IRC[10:22:28] *** Xoppa has joined #libgdx[10:22:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[10:33:13] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[10:38:00] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[10:43:04] *** n3o59hf has joined #libgdx[10:44:20] *** doev has quit IRC[10:52:16] *** mk1 is now known as mk1_meeting[10:58:30] *** Scellow has quit IRC[10:59:42] *** LordDVG has joined #libgdx[10:59:53] *** Scellow has joined #libgdx[11:02:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[11:06:25] *** tomzsa has joined #libgdx[11:07:25] *** derferman has quit IRC[11:11:38] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[11:19:24] *** tomzsa has quit IRC[11:21:15] *** Kajos has joined #libgdx[11:26:03] *** tomzsa has joined #libgdx[11:27:25] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[11:31:19] *** blomman has quit IRC[11:31:53] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[11:31:58] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[11:36:38] *** blomman has quit IRC[11:37:38] *** tomzsa has quit IRC[11:43:02] *** Lecherito has joined #libgdx[11:47:33] *** duff has joined #libgdx[11:48:49] *** mobidevelop has quit IRC[11:49:44] *** mobidevelop has joined #libgdx[11:49:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[11:52:28] *** mobaxe has joined #libgdx[11:59:44] *** tom992 has joined #libgdx[12:00:35] *** Patriick has quit IRC[12:02:31] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[12:05:28] <tom992> i have question about running libgdx on android , first as i install app on android device whole app lagging but when i close and run again its smooth , its happen to me in quite general sense so know anybody what may cause that[12:06:48] <m3t4lukas> tom992: do you have a virus scanner installed?[12:06:54] <megasoft78> tom992, how you did make lag libgdx?[12:07:18] <megasoft78> it's not lagging even on my super cheap LG P350[12:07:26] *** derferman has quit IRC[12:07:39] <megasoft78> are you using some antivirus or the Samsung UI?[12:07:50] <m3t4lukas> tom992: I have eset mobile scurity installed, that also causes lag when it scans te app after installing/reinstalling it, but it shows it to me in the system tray[12:08:02] <megasoft78> or maybe you are loading too many textures in memory?[12:08:28] <megasoft78> remove antivirus[12:08:36] <megasoft78> Android doesn't need one[12:08:58] <m3t4lukas> tom992: do you use loading screensor AssetManager.finishLoading()?[12:09:00] <megasoft78> it's just useless in Android[12:09:22] <m3t4lukas> megasoft78: it's not useless in android, not anymore[12:09:37] <megasoft78> m3t4lukas, did you get a virus in Android?[12:09:44] <megasoft78> it never happen to me[12:10:02] <mobidevelop> There is a lot of malware on Android[12:10:30] <megasoft78> ah ok[12:10:47] <megasoft78> anyway maybe that antivirus is too heavy?[12:10:56] <m3t4lukas> yep, I have eset mobile security and it saves me everytime I have a typo like "gfacebook.com" or something like that... a hundred redirects and a virus for free, lol :D[12:12:12] <mobidevelop> Never heard of eset[12:13:08] *** rgr has joined #libgdx[12:13:19] <m3t4lukas> really? I have their systems for my Servers, too. Pretty neat mail filtering[12:13:49] <m3t4lukas> well to integrate with sieve[12:13:54] <mobidevelop> I don't use antivirus myself[12:14:02] <m3t4lukas> *amavis[12:19:15] *** qaisjp` is now known as qaisjp[12:19:53] *** faylite has joined #libgdx[12:19:55] <tom992> its weird because in first run lags cause by in logs androidinput pointer id lookup failed[12:20:03] <tom992> and bunch of numbers[12:20:59] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[12:21:19] <tom992> and yes using input processor to listen touch events but why just first time failing and second nothing[12:21:40] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[12:23:11] <tom992> not using antivirus[12:23:23] <tom992> testig on offline device[12:25:01] *** megasoft78 has quit IRC[12:25:09] <m3t4lukas> tom992: dou you use google maps in your app?[12:25:18] <m3t4lukas> tom992: http://badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5352[12:25:27] *** Tann_ has joined #libgdx[12:26:28] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[12:27:44] <tom992> nope quite simple game grab a box[12:28:02] <tom992> and change location of that boxc[12:30:13] <mobidevelop> Taking random guesses at what could potentially cause lag is usually not very productive[12:36:46] *** Lestat has joined #libgdx[12:38:36] *** jerome[fr] has joined #libgdx[12:41:30] <jerome[fr]> hi[12:43:06] <tom992> im more curious what may causing that androidinput pointer id lookup failed because when this start show in logcat all start lagging http://imgur.com/YkQ1OMP[12:44:35] *** ruben01 has joined #libgdx[12:44:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ruben01[12:55:56] *** blomman has quit IRC[12:56:31] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[13:01:06] *** andrew710|2 has quit IRC[13:01:23] *** rgr has quit IRC[13:02:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[13:03:44] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[13:05:39] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[13:05:53] *** mk1_meeting is now known as mk1[13:05:53] *** TEttinger has quit IRC[13:06:53] *** derferman has quit IRC[13:08:57] *** rgr has joined #libgdx[13:13:44] *** log_ has joined 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:)[15:24:45] *** Mury has joined #libgdx[15:25:37] <Mury> hey guys,if i`m not wrong i`m drawing somewhere around 300 blocks using ModelInstance and i`m getting 10 fps.How can i render only the face of the cube that is facing the camera?[15:25:53] <Mury> are*[15:25:57] <eq2k> was wondering if anyone has some code to zoom to cursor / zoom away from cursor for libgdx, been trying to implement own but seems to have a couple of glitches[15:26:02] *** Guest83031 has quit IRC[15:31:51] <Mury> can anyone help me out?[15:32:07] *** duff has quit IRC[15:37:05] <eq2k> Mury, I'm no libgdx expert, but 300 blocks seems a little low to get such bad performance, are you doing some extra logic somewhere bogging it down?[15:37:33] <eq2k> personally i can only think of ensuring you have back face culling enabled[15:37:50] <dauntless26> I think everyone's asleep. Lol try in a few hours.[15:43:14] *** ShivanHunter has quit IRC[15:47:25] *** rottz has quit IRC[15:51:29] *** ShivanHunter has joined #libgdx[15:56:18] *** Guest32259 has quit IRC[15:56:37] <faylite> Has anyone used Egit with libgdx?, I just broke my entire project :/[15:57:57] <faylite> Or would it be better to use git from command line?[15:58:49] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[16:00:18] *** tom992 has quit IRC[16:00:21] <Oebele> I just use command line[16:00:26] *** indiepig has joined #libgdx[16:00:28] <Oebele> not that that is an answer to you question[16:00:53] <log`> faylite: I was having similar issues recently[16:01:11] <log`> the problem seemed to stem from the fact that my project was located within the Eclipse Workspace[16:01:22] *** m3t4lukas has quit IRC[16:01:26] <log`> which can cause problems with gradle dependencies i think[16:01:29] *** bugQ has joined #libgdx[16:02:00] <log`> so try to copy your project out of the workspace or recreate it outside the workspace and re-import it[16:02:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[16:03:00] <faylite> It's not in the workspace I imported from an external folder.[16:03:20] <log`> when you created the repo with egit, did it ask to move your project somewhere else?[16:03:27] <faylite> Yes[16:03:34] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[16:03:35] <log`> yeah i think that's what breaks it[16:03:42] <log`> unless you told it not to do that[16:03:51] <log`> then I have no idea[16:04:22] *** LordDVG has quit IRC[16:07:09] *** derferman has quit IRC[16:09:15] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[16:12:28] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[16:12:41] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[16:14:40] *** jeje has quit IRC[16:14:53] *** arkenox has left #libgdx[16:18:58] *** jeje has joined #libgdx[16:19:28] <Mury> thanks for the help you dick heads[16:19:35] *** Mury has quit IRC[16:20:50] *** ASneakyFox has quit IRC[16:21:03] *** Tomski sets mode: +b Mury!*@*[16:21:44] <log`> lol where did that come from[16:21:56] *** Sadale has quit IRC[16:23:14] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[16:24:32] <faylite> I got it to work :D[16:24:44] <log`> cool :)[16:24:52] <log`> what did you do?[16:25:58] <faylite> First I created a repository in the top folder project (if you get what I mean), then added the other projects.[16:26:41] <log`> i see[16:27:51] <davebaol> lol bye bye Mury[16:27:55] <faylite> I kinda forgot, I was just pressing random things till it worked, destroyed 4 projects in the process.[16:28:10] <log`> hehe alright, it's just nice to be able to replicate the process[16:28:18] <log`> i wound up just using command line git instead of egit for now[16:28:42] <log`> cause it doesnt try to do a bunch of things on it's own it just handles things in place[16:29:10] <faylite> Yeah, probably much easier. I just started using egit now, it's like learning git all over again :/[16:29:46] <log`> yeah[16:30:11] <log`> ah well, learning is fun[16:30:46] *** duff has joined #libgdx[16:35:23] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[16:35:32] *** Sadale has quit IRC[16:36:49] *** m__ has joined #libgdx[16:38:48] *** jeffol has joined #libgdx[16:39:09] *** indiepig has left #libgdx[16:40:10] *** Flaiker has joined #libgdx[16:40:16] <eq2k> note to self don't try and help someone called Mury :)[16:40:55] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[16:41:40] *** Sarraz has joined #libgdx[16:41:47] <Sarraz> Hey guys[16:41:52] <Sarraz> and gals[16:41:56] <jeffol> wzzzzupppp[16:42:06] <jeffol> another libgdx day is a good day[16:42:12] <faylite> Hi[16:42:34] <Sarraz> I'm trying out libgdx for the first time and im having a few tiny problems[16:42:37] <Tomski> eq2k, pretty much :P[16:43:04] <Sarraz> I'm trying to render a simple hello world text banner[16:43:19] *** rottz has quit IRC[16:43:21] <Sarraz> but i dont quite know what to do to get a font[16:43:42] <Sarraz> i call new BitmapFont(Gdx.files.internal("data/hiero.fnt"),[16:43:42] <Sarraz> Gdx.files.internal("data/hiero.png"), false);[16:44:16] <Sarraz> then get an error and I suspect i have to manually get the font, but i dont know how to do that[16:44:39] <Sarraz> or where from[16:44:41] <eq2k> was wondering if anyone has some code to zoom to cursor / zoom away from cursor for libgdx, been trying to implement own but seems to have a couple of glitches?[16:45:04] <Tomski> Not sure what you mean by that eq2k ?[16:45:18] <eq2k> like how google maps works[16:45:37] <eq2k> also similar to Spine's zooming to mouse pointer[16:45:49] <nexsoftware> I have code for that, but it isn't very presentable[16:45:54] <Tomski> ah[16:46:44] <Sarraz> eeek guess no one knows?[16:46:56] <Tomski> Not without the error[16:47:00] <Tomski> pastebin.com[16:47:08] *** mk1 has quit IRC[16:48:13] <jeffol> Sarraz: you could try just doing new BitmapFont() and it will just generate or use a default one i believe[16:48:13] <eq2k> its just steps to how to implement i need and maybe key part of algo[16:48:31] <Sarraz> http://pastebin.com/scBKU4hv[16:48:53] <cobolfoo> Hi, someone want to help me test a game prototype I made, I have to test how the netcode do. If you are interested PM :)[16:48:53] <eq2k> at mo I'm doing.... mousePos.x = (((getWidth() / 2.0f) - localPosition.x) / (getWidth() / 2.0f) * halfMaxSize); mousePos.y = (((getHeight() / 2.0f) - localPosition.y) / (getHeight() / 2.0f) * halfMaxSize);[16:48:56] <Tomski> eq2k, well the cursor position is the same in terms of relative positioning. So you'd need to adjust the camera position to match that[16:49:11] <cobolfoo> My sentence miss a ? somewhere[16:49:18] <Tomski> cobolfoo, sure[16:49:42] <eq2k> http://pastebin.com/35jWTfs7[16:49:55] <eq2k> thought paste bin better :)[16:52:21] *** eReS has quit IRC[16:53:06] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[16:53:35] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[16:58:22] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[17:01:37] *** n3o59hf has quit IRC[17:02:47] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:05:57] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[17:06:38] <Tomski> eq2k, what is EditorActor?[17:07:04] <Tomski> Did you make a software cursor?[17:07:37] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[17:07:52] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:08:35] *** nooone has joined #libgdx[17:09:10] *** mobidevelop has joined #libgdx[17:09:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[17:10:22] *** mobidevelop has quit IRC[17:10:28] *** burninghand has joined #libgdx[17:10:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o burninghand[17:10:49] *** burninghand has quit IRC[17:10:53] *** mobidevelop has joined #libgdx[17:10:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[17:11:02] *** nexsoftware has quit IRC[17:11:25] *** Symyon has quit IRC[17:12:52] *** ruben011 has joined #libgdx[17:14:31] *** ruben01 has quit IRC[17:14:35] *** blomman has quit IRC[17:14:46] <davebaol> to anyone interested in pathfinding I'm adding it to gdx-ai, see https://github.com/libgdx/gdx-ai/issues/7[17:14:54] <davebaol> looking for feedback :)[17:15:03] <jeffol> davebaol: <3[17:15:28] *** mobidevelop has quit IRC[17:15:33] <cobolfoo> daveboal thank you, I was going to start developing my own next week :)[17:15:39] <cobolfoo> I would prefer to use your implementation[17:15:55] <jeffol> right now my own slapped together pathfinding has performance issues so i'm happy to use it[17:16:04] <jeffol> yours*[17:16:17] *** poxip has joined #libgdx[17:16:21] <davebaol> cool, 2 testers already :)[17:16:37] <cobolfoo> davebaol: I guess your implementation is grid-based?[17:16:44] <davebaol> nope[17:16:59] <cobolfoo> how it works?[17:16:59] <davebaol> just the example/test[17:17:09] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:17:34] <davebaol> look at Graph, Connection, PathFinder interfaces[17:18:14] <davebaol> the wiki is not ready yet, sorry[17:19:02] <davebaol> but if you have more specific questions....[17:19:52] <davebaol> BTW note that at the higher level there's no Node interface[17:20:47] <davebaol> specific pathfinders are completly free to define the node interface they need[17:21:04] <cobolfoo> If I remind correctly, there is no way to run tests direclty in console from gradle?[17:21:11] <cobolfoo> I have to import in IDE right?[17:21:28] <davebaol> not sure, I always use eclipse[17:21:55] <cobolfoo> I could build the JAR and call the tests main class direclty[17:22:19] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[17:23:09] <davebaol> the test shows pathfinding and path smoothing[17:23:20] <davebaol> on a tile graph[17:25:14] <Tomski> You can do it with command line[17:25:17] <Tomski> If they are setup correctly[17:27:24] <cobolfoo> davebol which Test I have to select? I saw BehaviorTree, MessageTimer, STateMachine, Steering and Telegram[17:28:42] <davebaol> PathFinderTest[17:28:59] <davebaol> int the pathfinding branch[17:29:04] <cobolfoo> ah dumb me[17:29:52] *** eq2k has quit IRC[17:31:06] <davebaol> btw, cobolfoo, although the wiki is missing there's some useful javadoc[17:31:45] *** SOAD has quit IRC[17:32:45] *** Hightower666 has joined #libgdx[17:33:23] <cobolfoo> nice bw maze :)[17:34:05] *** Hightower666 has joined #libgdx[17:34:13] <davebaol> well, if you remove the outer loop in generate it's even more good-looking[17:34:13] <cobolfoo> what the peformance look like when the maze is changing?[17:34:28] <davebaol> enable metrics cobolfoo[17:34:52] <cobolfoo> ah nice[17:35:36] <cobolfoo> for 3056 nodes I get 0.4 ms[17:36:02] <cobolfoo> on a core i7 2600k[17:37:18] <davebaol> the test has 125x75=9375 nodes[17:37:18] <cobolfoo> I guess I could recalculate the path in a second thread if something change[17:37:24] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:37:36] <cobolfoo> Could the information be re-used when I have to calculate the path for like 100 different agents?[17:38:09] <davebaol> a whole path is reusable of course[17:38:20] <davebaol> if you mean part of a path then no[17:38:29] <davebaol> LPA* is needed for that[17:38:48] <cobolfoo> Yeah this is good enough for me, I have fixed spawn points, I only need to calculate paths for each spawns[17:39:11] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:39:57] <cobolfoo> You know a smart way to generate 2-3 different valid paths, I would like my agents trying to flank position[17:40:12] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[17:40:36] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[17:40:44] <cobolfoo> I was thinkg about blocking the nodes used by the previous path but I wonder if it would be enough[17:41:43] <davebaol> do you mean parallel paths?[17:41:45] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[17:41:54] *** nT4BR has joined #libgdx[17:42:23] <davebaol> if so, then you need 1 path and 1 steering behavior :)[17:42:24] <cobolfoo> different paths, like going south instead of north and doing a U-turn somewhere :)[17:43:17] <davebaol> you can play with the cost of connections[17:43:18] *** n3o59hf_atlas has joined #libgdx[17:43:22] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:43:25] *** fblyn has joined #libgdx[17:43:54] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:43:56] <davebaol> to make some part of the graph preferrable[17:44:13] <davebaol> parts*[17:45:10] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[17:46:23] *** agobit has joined #libgdx[17:46:31] *** m__ has quit IRC[17:46:59] *** agobit has quit IRC[17:47:32] *** agobit has joined #libgdx[17:47:58] *** agobit is now known as Webchef[17:48:12] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:48:37] <davebaol> cobolfoo, got to go now[17:48:41] <davebaol> I'll be back in half an hour[17:48:48] <Webchef> hello o/[17:49:21] *** arkenox has left #libgdx[17:50:25] *** nT4BR has quit IRC[17:51:57] <Webchef> I use a pixmap to load a texture with only 1 backgroundcolor and several colored pixels. I have a second texture, which is the same width/height. I get the pixel positions from texture A and wants to add an overlay on texture B. Works all good except that there is an offset in Y-axis .. someone knows why?[17:53:11] *** davebaol has quit IRC[17:55:48] <Webchef> here is an image for explanation http://pbrd.co/1q90nmE[17:59:13] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[18:01:07] *** Sadale has quit IRC[18:03:15] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[18:04:12] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, maybe you could show how do you do it?[18:05:42] <Webchef> yes .. one moment .. I am preparing pastebin[18:06:31] *** nick-airhead has joined #libgdx[18:07:11] *** davebaol has joined #libgdx[18:07:50] <Webchef> here is the code http://pastebin.com/9PNdr5qM[18:08:14] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[18:11:54] *** Mous has joined #libgdx[18:12:48] <Webchef> maybe it has something todo with the orthographic camera.. I set ydown to false ..[18:14:15] <davebaol> <cobolfoo> I was thinkg about blocking the nodes used by the previous path but I wonder if it would be enough[18:14:15] <davebaol> yeah but that way you're potentially excluding many more paths than just previous ones[18:15:59] *** Oebele has quit IRC[18:16:12] <Webchef> n3o59hf_atlas any ideas?[18:16:40] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, trying to understand the code[18:16:48] <Webchef> ok[18:16:50] *** duff has quit IRC[18:17:41] *** Oebele has joined #libgdx[18:18:19] <davebaol> cobolfoo, insead of blocking, which means infinite cost, you can try to increase a bit the cost of connections already used by other paths[18:21:07] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[18:26:58] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, how does your coordinate system work for turrets? 0;0 is middle point?[18:32:26] <Webchef> yes[18:32:29] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[18:32:40] <Webchef> center is getWidth()/2, getHeight()/2[18:34:07] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, and in your iteration cycle you turret.fixedPosition.set(x, -y); where x and y = 0..dimension, not -dimension/2..dimension/2[18:35:42] <Webchef> fixedposition is the pixel position on the ship. where the turret should be rendered[18:36:07] *** Liasain has quit IRC[18:37:39] *** derferman has quit IRC[18:38:24] *** Shorttail has joined #libgdx[18:38:53] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, but it's shifted because of 0;0 being center of ship, not left bottom pixel when you do setPositionRelativeTo (or I don't understand code correctly)[18:39:03] *** rottz has quit IRC[18:40:06] *** mobidevelop has joined #libgdx[18:40:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[18:44:22] *** Flaiker has quit IRC[18:46:29] *** rottz has joined #libgdx[18:47:07] *** dermetfan has quit IRC[18:54:50] *** nick-airhead has quit IRC[18:56:24] *** LordDVG has joined #libgdx[18:57:33] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[19:00:55] <cobolfoo> davebaol: sorry for the delay, this is what I will do[19:01:55] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[19:02:30] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[19:02:42] *** abs25 has joined #libgdx[19:04:24] <Webchef> hm I will look at it again..[19:04:38] <Webchef> thx for your help[19:05:16] <n3o59hf_atlas> Webchef, np[19:11:49] *** TheUnkn0wn0ne has quit IRC[19:16:02] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[19:16:40] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[19:17:00] <davebaol> cobolfoo: no problem[19:18:34] *** ajhager has quit IRC[19:26:13] *** eReS has quit IRC[19:27:35] <theaftermath> Is this article up to date? https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Sound-effects[19:28:01] <Tomski> Looks it[19:28:12] <cobolfoo> aug 13 :)[19:29:50] <theaftermath> ok well I can't seem to get eclipse to import the required files[19:30:19] <theaftermath> it says it can't find Gdx.audio[19:31:23] <Tomski> You have the import com.badlogic.gdx.Gdx?[19:31:26] <theaftermath> Specifically "Gdx.audio" cannot be resolved to a type[19:31:32] <theaftermath> Yes I do have that imported[19:31:50] <Tomski> Pastebin the line this happens on?[19:32:22] <theaftermath> coming right up[19:32:29] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[19:33:09] <theaftermath> http://pastebin.com/bSeVUn5e[19:33:18] <Tomski> Ditch the "new"[19:34:01] <theaftermath> *facepalm* thanks![19:34:27] *** kalle_h has joined #libgdx[19:35:47] <kalle_h> Hello[19:35:54] <kalle_h> Temporal AA rocks[19:36:24] <GhostNr1> Hi all[19:36:31] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[19:36:45] *** Kajos_ has joined #libgdx[19:36:47] <kalle_h> After reading all those fancy papers I ditched their proposed methods and implemented my own and its artifact free, simple and fast[19:36:54] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[19:37:25] *** Kajos_ has quit IRC[19:37:35] <kalle_h> Basically I do antialiasing after all opaque geometry is shaded but after transparent/volumetric/post proc[19:37:39] *** Kajos has quit IRC[19:37:58] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[19:37:59] *** Kajos has joined #libgdx[19:38:00] <kalle_h> in hdr space[19:38:31] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[19:42:26] *** Guest83031 has joined #libgdx[19:42:40] *** Kohaku1 has joined #libgdx[19:47:32] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[19:49:37] *** XTremEive has joined #libgdx[19:49:45] <XTremEive> Hi there![19:50:23] *** vestu has joined #libgdx[19:51:52] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[19:52:23] *** combo has joined #libgdx[19:53:34] *** arkenox has quit IRC[19:53:45] <XTremEive> I have a small existential issue here: I want to switch my current project to a message based architecture... I can see the benefits, but I'm not if I should do it. Especially with libGDX.... I mean it's like I'm reinventing the wheel (Unity). Any input?[19:54:00] *** mxttie has joined #libgdx[19:54:38] <kalle_h> XTremEive: just finish your game and use message style on your next project[19:54:58] *** faylite has quit IRC[19:55:57] <XTremEive> Ok, forget the "current project" part of it. I don't if I should do it regardless of the project.[19:56:42] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[19:57:53] <kalle_h> my opinion is that message based is hard to debug and may cause redudant latency to gameplay[19:58:07] *** Flaiker has joined #libgdx[19:58:10] <kalle_h> but I need to be afk for while[19:59:28] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[19:59:36] *** Keniyal_ has joined #libgdx[20:02:32] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[20:02:40] *** Hightower666 has quit IRC[20:05:52] <abs25> where can I learn more about shaders?[20:11:16] <maximtwo> abs25, https://github.com/mattdesl/lwjgl-basics/wiki[20:11:23] *** arkenox has quit IRC[20:12:13] *** faylite has joined #libgdx[20:13:27] *** SudsDev has quit IRC[20:14:32] *** nooone has quit IRC[20:14:57] *** nooone has joined #libgdx[20:15:13] *** SudsDev has joined #libgdx[20:15:51] *** Caseus has joined #libgdx[20:17:04] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[20:20:15] *** SgtCoDFish has joined #libgdx[20:21:56] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[20:22:05] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[20:22:39] *** ZettaBlade has joined #libgdx[20:24:43] *** ajhager has quit IRC[20:26:12] *** Kajos has quit IRC[20:26:16] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[20:27:23] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[20:27:31] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[20:29:07] *** nooone has quit IRC[20:36:50] *** arkenox has quit IRC[20:37:59] <theaftermath> What would be the best way to save my game settings when it is closed? I tried putting the code in Screens dispose function but its not working[20:39:51] *** InspiredNotion has joined #libgdx[20:40:29] *** tajobe has quit IRC[20:41:05] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[20:41:05] <jeffol> theaftermath: FileHandle file = Gdx.files.local(fileName);[20:41:17] <jeffol> theaftermath: file.writeString(stringData, false);[20:41:30] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[20:41:44] <theaftermath> jeffol I already have that code set up and it works, but I'm trying to call it when android decides to close the app[20:42:00] <jeffol> lemme see where i put mine[20:42:31] <jeffol> @Override pause in my main ApplicationAdapter[20:42:40] <jeffol> @Override public void pause()[20:43:05] <theaftermath> Got it, that should help, thank you![20:43:09] <jeffol> yw[20:43:26] <ZettaBlade> That reminds me, does dispose have to be called manually each time the game switches to a new screen?[20:43:30] *** log` has quit IRC[20:44:09] <theaftermath> ZettaBlade I have a Game class that creates a Screen class. I just figured out that I have to call the Screen's dispose function manually from the Game class's dispose function[20:45:18] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[20:46:49] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[20:47:10] <ZettaBlade> Oh, interesting. I'm gonna go read the source. My game passes anonymous screen objects to the game object in the call to setScreen. I assumed they were handled by libgdx.[20:48:41] *** Flaiker has quit IRC[20:49:56] *** arkenox has joined #libgdx[20:50:15] <ZettaBlade> Oh yea, it definitely needs to be called manually.[20:50:20] <ZettaBlade> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/gdx/src/com/badlogic/gdx/Game.java[20:52:23] *** mkc has joined #libgdx[20:52:31] *** mkc has quit IRC[20:52:40] <kalle_h> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr9yook7mis4bxw/Table-Screenshot-09.png?dl=0[20:52:46] *** mkc has joined #libgdx[20:52:48] <ZettaBlade> I don't get why Game.dispose calls Screen.hide[20:53:02] <ZettaBlade> Shouldn't it call Screen.dispose?[20:53:15] *** ParkourGrip has joined #libgdx[20:53:23] *** XTremEive has quit IRC[20:53:37] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[20:53:46] *** Kuhmaus has joined #libgdx[20:55:38] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[20:58:01] *** Kuhmaus has quit IRC[21:00:25] <maximtwo> ZettaBlade, you don't have to extend Game at all[21:00:44] <maximtwo> you can just extend ApplicationAdapter or implement Application Listener and delegate to Screen as you see fit[21:00:53] <maximtwo> you don't have to use Screen either[21:02:27] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[21:04:02] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[21:05:06] <ParkourGrip> if someone is bored as duck i'm streaming some bad programing xD http://www.hitbox.tv/ParkourGrip[21:05:46] <arkenox> bored as duck[21:05:47] <maximtwo> boo eclipse[21:05:48] <maximtwo> im done[21:06:10] <ZettaBlade> I don't think ducks get bored haha[21:06:40] <arkenox> Anyone else having weird buffering issues with his stream?[21:06:58] <ZettaBlade> Their stream hates my flash plugin[21:07:01] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[21:07:27] <dajos7> ducks fu** all day long[21:07:27] <ZettaBlade> How bad is their programming? Is it comically bad?[21:08:05] <ParkourGrip> just look at mine xD[21:08:09] <arkenox> The buffering issues are so horrible that it's like watching a powerpoint presentation with several slides missing.[21:08:19] <dajos7> ^^[21:08:35] <dajos7> beautiful comparison[21:09:42] <kalle_h> http://i.imgur.com/NptRfht.png which name is the best?[21:09:54] *** I_R_B_ has joined #libgdx[21:10:39] <arkenox> The Unburied sounds cool. But the Forgotten Folk seems like it fits the artstyle more.[21:11:02] <kalle_h> most of the ppl have said same[21:11:35] <kalle_h> maybe some race after those can get the unburied name[21:11:50] <dajos7> kalle_h: what are these guys?[21:11:55] <dajos7> zombies?[21:12:05] <kalle_h> http://steamcommunity.com/app/321980[21:12:38] *** mxttie has quit IRC[21:12:58] <ParkourGrip> no ducks left in my stream[21:13:11] <I_R_B_> I've been having a couple of problems with the scene2d ui List class. Anybody know much about it?[21:13:21] <kalle_h> dajos7: something close to zombie but not quite right[21:13:46] <dajos7> C) sounds wrong ...[21:14:15] <dajos7> i would go with unburied as well[21:14:24] <ParkourGrip> freetype font in gradle version is soo much faster[21:14:31] <Lecherito> http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/548638296705987584/2B801D263A882601C9158789E8F72056CD276898/ <-- a horse oneee[21:15:00] <cobolfoo> I like the forgotten folk, I feel bad for them :)[21:16:01] <InspiredNotion> Evening all[21:16:58] <dajos7> evening[21:17:34] <kalle_h> Lecherito: that might or might not be some easter egg later on[21:18:59] <kalle_h> Forgotten folks could be some ppl that some witch freezed and then forget to unfroze them for a long time[21:20:45] <I_R_B_> So in the constructor of scene2d.ui.List, the width and height is set from getPrefWidth and getPrefHeight which, initially, before the list is populated, are just 0. A call to invalidate is made when the setItems method is called, which sets Widget.needsLayout to true. This is fine so far. When the draw method is called, it first makes a call to validate(), which is correct. The validate method sees that needsLayout is true and calls[21:20:52] <I_R_B_> turn sets prefWidth and prefHeight based on the contents of the list. However, it doesn't update width and height. The result of this is that the default hit method doesn't work, and the List doesn't receive any input events. The Label class solves this by keeping track of a sizeInvalid field, then calls a method called computeSize in its layout() method. I suspect List needs something similar[21:21:32] <I_R_B_> Or am I just missing something obvious?[21:21:40] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[21:22:08] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[21:22:17] *** arkenox has quit IRC[21:22:36] *** ParkourGrip has quit IRC[21:24:13] <InspiredNotion> hey peeps.. alittle off topic, installed ubuntu, first linux installation.. i have been using soure tree with bitbucket to manage my projects.. but source tree doesnt seem to support linux. Can anyone suggest another to use?[21:25:05] <I_R_B_> InspiredNotion, which version control system are you using? Mercurial or git?[21:26:33] <cobolfoo> InspiredNotion: time to install VirtualBox :)[21:27:24] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[21:28:20] *** cobolfoo has left #libgdx[21:28:47] <InspiredNotion> virtual box ok will do[21:29:12] <InspiredNotion> youot a link[21:29:18] <InspiredNotion> you got..[21:29:28] <I_R_B_> Why would he need VirtualBox?[21:30:38] <I_R_B_> It's a git client he's looking for[21:32:10] <InspiredNotion> no dont think i need Virtual box at the mo.. but it ight be an option of my desktop[21:32:15] <InspiredNotion> might*[21:32:34] *** ParkourGrip has joined #libgdx[21:33:09] <ParkourGrip> okok my shit is definetly borring so i stopped here is something more interesting that is not from me http://www.hitbox.tv/EvilDogProductions[21:33:52] *** ParkourGrip has quit IRC[21:35:56] <I_R_B_> Okay, let's try the second List problem. It provides only setItems method, which is fine for initializing the list with a fixed set of values. However, if you want to dynamically add and remove values, there are no methods. There is, however, a getItems() method which returns a mutable Array with which you can.[21:36:10] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[21:36:25] <I_R_B_> The problem: modifying this mutatable Array returned by getItems results in the list being modified without List.invalidate() being called[21:36:41] <I_R_B_> Again: something I'm missing?[21:37:09] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[21:40:12] <mobidevelop> Call invalidate?[21:43:55] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[21:45:57] *** InspiredNotion has quit IRC[21:46:00] *** joshuafcole has quit IRC[21:46:20] *** Kotcrab has joined #libgdx[21:48:11] *** fblyn has quit IRC[21:50:54] <I_R_B_> mobidevelop: sure, but it seems like something the List class should take care of internally, especially when the setItems method already does this itself. It seems inconsistent for list.setItems("foo") to work, but list.getItems().add("foo") to require an extra invalidate call by the user[21:50:58] *** vestu has quit IRC[21:53:32] <mobidevelop> Well, that's because you change stuff from outside.[21:53:42] <mobidevelop> How is it supposed to know you did that?[21:54:09] <kalle_h> magic[21:54:22] <I_R_B_> If I shouldn't be changing stuff from outside, then it should return an immutable data structure. If it's returning a mutable data structure, it should ideally hook changes to that data structure that may require layout.[21:54:47] <I_R_B_> Unfortunately the Array class doesn't currently implement any change events, but this could easily be added[21:55:41] <kalle_h> That would effect performance of Array class[21:55:51] <I_R_B_> If this is by design then fine, I can live with it, but it seemed like an oversight to me[21:56:49] <kalle_h> There are many places where encapsulation is relaxed to allow users to use stuff more flexible and code to be simpler[21:57:44] <mobidevelop> Android has a notifyDataSetChanged method to tell an adapter you changed something behind its back[21:57:51] <I_R_B_> kalle_h: I can't see a simple change event system affecting performance to any noticeable degree, and besides which, premature optimization is never a good reason not to implement a consistent API[21:57:51] <mobidevelop> Same idea[21:58:38] <I_R_B_> mobidevelop: and any ideas about my first question? That one *does* seem like a bug[21:58:41] *** Arrkangel_ has joined #libgdx[21:58:46] <kalle_h> I_R_B_: Array is meant to be be dead simple and more performant version of ArrayList[21:58:55] *** Arrkangel_ is now known as Arrkangel[21:59:04] <mobidevelop> I have no idea what your other question was[21:59:21] <kalle_h> not adding boiler plate to it is not premature optimization is just keeping it simple[21:59:23] *** LiquidNitrogen has joined #libgdx[21:59:44] <I_R_B_> In the constructor of scene2d.ui.List, the width and height is set from getPrefWidth and getPrefHeight which, initially, before the list is populated, are just 0. A call to invalidate is made when the setItems method is called, which sets Widget.needsLayout to true. This is fine so far. When the draw method is called, it first makes a call to validate(), which is correct. The validate method sees that needsLayout is true and calls the[21:59:55] <I_R_B_> This in turn sets prefWidth and prefHeight based on the contents of the list. However, it doesn't update width and height. The result of this is that the default hit method doesn't work, and the List doesn't receive any input events.[22:00:14] *** debugger has joined #libgdx[22:00:52] <mobidevelop> That's a lot to read on a phone screen[22:01:21] <I_R_B_> okay, the short version is: List.width and List.height are never anything other than 0, which causes hit to fail, which causes the List to never receive any input events[22:01:30] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[22:02:11] <mobidevelop> So set the width and height?[22:02:28] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[22:03:02] <mobidevelop> You, or a parent Group is responsible for sizing widgets[22:03:20] *** deBugger_ has quit IRC[22:04:19] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[22:05:56] <I_R_B_> I see, so the default behavior is that a widget will have a width and height of 0 and thus receive no InputEvents unless something externally calls setSize or setWidth/setHeight on it?[22:06:00] *** ruben011 has left #libgdx[22:06:51] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[22:06:54] *** derferman has quit IRC[22:06:56] *** eReS has quit IRC[22:07:20] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[22:07:26] *** EndiFreeKolesio has joined #libgdx[22:07:29] <EndiFreeKolesio> Hi[22:09:10] <jeffol> greetings[22:11:53] *** dauntless26 has quit IRC[22:11:55] *** TEchh has joined #libgdx[22:21:02] *** catsandcode has quit IRC[22:21:10] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[22:26:57] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[22:28:09] *** dajos7 has quit IRC[22:28:40] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[22:33:03] *** Arrkangel has quit IRC[22:35:16] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[22:36:25] *** I_R_B_ has quit IRC[22:37:04] *** EndiFreeKolesio has quit IRC[22:37:34] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[22:40:11] *** Fitzy has joined #libgdx[22:43:17] *** Guest30927 is now known as LoneStranger[22:50:29] *** mkc has quit IRC[22:55:05] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[22:59:22] *** Oebele has quit IRC[23:00:11] *** rottz has quit IRC[23:02:27] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[23:07:10] *** lasserix has joined #libgdx[23:07:25] *** derferman has quit IRC[23:08:58] *** a10killer has joined #libgdx[23:10:45] *** SgtCoDFish has quit IRC[23:10:50] <a10killer> hey all, Im hoping some one can help me understand a SelectBox. Currently Im gettong an error for FLeets = new SelectBox(new String[] {"Fleet 1", "Fleet 2", "Fleet 3"}, skin);. The error states that I shoul only use ListButton = new SelectBox(skin); Any suggestions?[23:10:52] <a10killer> thanks[23:12:23] *** a10killer has quit IRC[23:18:04] *** waldohatesyou has joined #libgdx[23:21:52] *** Sawbones has joined #libgdx[23:24:01] *** TEttinger has joined #libgdx[23:27:14] *** Sawbones has quit IRC[23:27:23] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[23:46:09] *** ZettaBlade has quit IRC[23:51:40] *** ZettaBlade has joined #libgdx[23:53:16] *** waldohatesyou has quit IRC[23:53:52] *** Lingo__ has joined #libgdx[23:54:17] *** Lingo__ is now known as nick_halloweenin[23:54:22] *** nick_halloweenin is now known as nick_halloweenN[23:55:42] *** davebaol has quit IRC