October 25, 2014 
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October 25, 2014 [00:00:05] <NateAustin> ok. I've done some limited local testing but I definitely would want more eyes on it before it goes in. ;-)[00:02:15] *** Charlot has quit IRC[00:02:18] <Xoppa> make sure to include the test code and devices you've used[00:02:27] <Xoppa> *include=descibre[00:02:44] <Xoppa> btw, you can remove the (comment-only) mesh change[00:03:35] *** InspiredNotion has quit IRC[00:03:57] <Xoppa> NateAustin, i think that a separate vao implementation would be better then modifying vbo[00:06:31] <NateAustin> ok, but basically, not using vaos is not an option in 3.0 core, so anything that doesn't use them will either need to be used conditionally, or eventually deprecated.[00:07:29] *** abs25 has quit IRC[00:07:31] <NateAustin> So, if I make a VertexData implementation that uses VAOs, and then use that exclusively when in 3.0, is that what we want? I would have to modify Mesh, and not sure what else I guess.[00:09:26] <Xoppa> if that's what needed then that's what we want[00:09:56] <NateAustin> Ok I'll redo the changes in that direction and submit a PR.[00:10:39] <Xoppa> ok, thanks[00:11:42] *** drabla has quit IRC[00:22:52] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[00:23:04] *** LiquidNitrogen has joined #libgdx[00:24:40] <qaisjp> Xoppa: how do i check if an Array contains a certain key[00:25:10] <Xoppa> if (Array.contains(value)) ... ??[00:25:25] <qaisjp> that checks for a value[00:25:26] <qaisjp> not for a key[00:25:52] <qaisjp> ah nvm[00:26:25] <Xoppa> ow.. if (array.size > key) ...[00:26:29] <qaisjp> nah nvm[00:26:44] <qaisjp> i was using .contains before[00:26:50] <qaisjp> but i forgot about the boolean[00:27:03] <qaisjp> so it told me about the error, and i didn't realise what it was saying[00:27:07] <qaisjp> im fine now though, thanks[00:27:37] *** stefzekiller__ has joined #libgdx[00:31:07] *** stefzekiller_ has quit IRC[00:32:47] *** r0v3r6 has joined #libgdx[00:33:54] <nick-coden> hum... langauge fun[00:35:19] <nick-coden> what langauges can I easily support with libgdx?[00:35:32] <nick-coden> english, spanish, french, german?[00:36:34] <dauntless26> Farsi[00:36:47] <nick-coden> nah[00:36:48] <Xoppa> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Internationalization-and-Localization[00:36:59] <nick-coden> Xoppa: just i sitting on the wiki right now[00:37:14] *** stefzekiller_ has joined #libgdx[00:37:17] <nick-coden> i'm thinking about release to the french first[00:37:25] <nick-coden> not like anyone cares about france's opinion on anything[00:37:31] <nick-coden> but it would be a good test bed[00:37:41] <nick-coden> what do you think Xoppa?[00:38:13] *** TheUnkn0wn0ne has quit IRC[00:38:17] <Xoppa> sounds like a plan[00:38:37] <nick-coden> i almost forgot about canada[00:38:42] <nick-coden> 2 for 1[00:38:50] <nick-coden> :-)[00:39:23] <Xoppa> keep in mind though that the first 30 days after initial release will get you most exposure[00:40:07] <nick-coden> i can release under a flaux name then pull the game after two weeks and add the real game[00:40:10] <nick-coden> kinda dirty?[00:41:02] *** stefzekiller__ has quit IRC[00:41:25] <Xoppa> i think you'd have to rename the package, but other than that i don't think that google is going to hunt you for that[00:41:38] <nick-coden> i'm almost finished with a clash of clans sorta type game. online multiuser. so its not a big deal to run the game for 6 months IMHO without making any money.[00:41:40] <nick-coden> exactly[00:41:44] <nick-coden> not like i'm anyone important[00:55:58] *** echelog has joined #libgdx[00:56:48] *** pokkeli has quit IRC[00:58:13] *** tricid has joined #libgdx[01:03:01] *** tricid has quit IRC[01:03:13] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[01:05:15] *** r0v3r6 has quit IRC[01:07:32] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[01:08:21] *** tkrp has quit IRC[01:09:13] *** tricid has joined #libgdx[01:11:24] *** lasserix has joined #libgdx[01:13:07] *** Charlot has quit IRC[01:13:48] *** tricid has quit IRC[01:15:43] *** SOAD has quit IRC[01:22:45] *** tricid has joined #libgdx[01:30:05] <NateAustin> ok https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/2503[01:30:26] *** Raziel has quit IRC[01:31:57] <nexsoftware> Many words[01:33:13] <nexsoftware> Note on GWT, there is no way to request a gl3 context there since webgl is based on gles 2.0[01:41:26] <NateAustin> huh[01:41:57] *** kalle_h has quit IRC[01:43:17] *** Psyfire has quit IRC[01:43:28] <Xoppa> NateAustin, as for invalidate, see https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/2474[01:46:30] <NateAustin> Oh good.[01:47:44] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[01:47:56] *** ASneakyFox has quit IRC[01:47:56] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[01:54:46] *** yrk has joined #libgdx[01:54:50] *** yrk has joined #libgdx[01:58:48] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[02:03:42] *** Arbos has quit IRC[02:05:27] *** jeffol has quit IRC[02:06:01] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[02:08:30] *** Charlot has quit 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<Charlot> Hi![02:50:20] <Charlot> I am using an Timer.schedule(new Task)...[02:50:31] <Charlot> and i want to change the delay during the task[02:50:35] <Charlot> it is possible?[02:50:50] <Charlot> The goal of that it's to increase the speed of my game[02:51:02] <Charlot> Could someone help me?[03:01:08] *** Charlot has quit IRC[03:01:26] *** pokkeli has joined #libgdx[03:06:44] *** Biliogadafr has quit IRC[03:17:31] *** lukas_ has quit IRC[03:20:27] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[03:22:51] *** davebaol has quit IRC[03:26:12] *** Lecherito has quit IRC[03:26:54] *** Charlot_ has joined #libgdx[03:27:03] *** Charlot_ has quit IRC[03:27:33] *** Charlot_ has joined #libgdx[03:30:01] *** Charlot has quit IRC[03:31:57] *** Charlot_ has quit IRC[03:32:13] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[03:36:33] *** Charlot has quit IRC[03:36:55] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[03:39:19] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[03:48:07] *** Charlot has quit IRC[03:48:39] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[03:50:56] *** 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#libgdx[11:38:41] *** Hronom has quit IRC[11:41:33] *** Lecherito has joined #libgdx[11:41:37] *** holymac_ has quit IRC[11:51:20] *** Flaiker has joined #libgdx[11:56:17] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[11:56:59] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[11:58:15] *** jerome[fr] has joined #libgdx[11:58:34] <oal> Does the AssetManager support automatically loading the correct assets based on the device's DPI? Or is there such functionality in Libgdx?[12:01:03] <Tomski> You can look up ResolutionFileResolver[12:01:40] *** LordDVG has joined #libgdx[12:05:25] *** InspiredNotion has joined #libgdx[12:06:33] <InspiredNotion> Morning[12:08:52] <jerome[fr]> hi[12:09:19] <Tomski> howdy[12:09:30] <Oebele> good morning[12:09:42] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[12:10:16] <Lecherito> hellou[12:12:26] *** cackling_ladies has joined #libgdx[12:12:40] <Tomski> psssst Lecherito[12:13:52] <Lecherito> what's up babe[12:14:31] *** derferman has quit IRC[12:15:09] <cackling_ladies> hey guys this is not exactly libgdx per se but what's the word used to describe a ship which has "listed" to the front?[12:17:07] <[twisti]> ship of the line ?[12:17:17] <[twisti]> not sure what you mean exactly[12:17:57] <jerome[fr]> I try to use https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Gradle-on-the-Commandline#running-the-project with androidStudio, i have a gradle task, when i run desktop:run i have the error ":android:run error: device not found" its normal that gradle desktop use android:run ? :([12:18:46] <Tomski> Running from the command line?[12:19:20] <cackling_ladies> [twisti], it means the ship looks like this. http://blog.chron.com/mormonvoice/files/2012/09/titanic5.jpg[12:19:41] <[twisti]> oh, thats a weird use of the word listed[12:19:50] <cackling_ladies> hence in quote[12:19:59] <cackling_ladies> I know know "list"[12:20:17] <cackling_ladies> only* know[12:20:44] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[12:20:46] <[twisti]> ive never seen the word list used in that context either, and i have certainly no idea what the right word for your image is :|[12:20:56] <jerome[fr]> from the gradle task list (http://iromin.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/gradle-ep6-10.png), but i seams its the same, i test with command line[12:21:27] <Tomski> jerome[fr], not if you are running :app[12:22:11] <Tomski> Also if you aren't using configuration on demand then it could be trying to configure other unrelated projects[12:23:27] <jerome[fr]> mhhh ok, so if i test on the command line, its just run the desktop project ?[12:24:15] <Tomski> mhm[12:24:20] <oal> @Tomski, thanks. Does AssetManager pick the closes resolution if it doesn't exactly match any of the ones available from the ResolutionFileResolver?[12:25:43] <Tomski> oal, should do[12:26:10] <oal> Perfect :)[12:28:40] <jerome[fr]> Tomski: with the commande line ./gradlew desktop:dist works, but.....when its finish, app desktop isn't launched[12:29:21] <Tomski> dist doesnt launch it[12:29:39] <Tomski> Just bundles it into a jar in the build/libs directory[12:30:47] <jerome[fr]> Tomski: sorry, i run desktop:run, and app isn't launched[12:31:02] <Tomski> Whats the output[12:31:49] <jerome[fr]> BUILD SUCCESSFUL but Erreur : impossible de trouver ou charger la classe principale fr.test.desktop.DesktopLauncher[12:32:04] <Tomski> Did you change the names of packages/classes?[12:32:15] *** pokkeli has quit IRC[12:32:45] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[12:33:25] <jerome[fr]> mhhhh, i understand now ! before 1.4.1 i had a problem with gradle and AndroidStudio and i have tinker from an other project[12:33:54] <jerome[fr]> I go to check gradle files for fix it ! tks[12:34:21] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[12:34:42] *** andrew710|2 has quit IRC[12:36:54] *** Charlot has quit IRC[12:45:04] *** ColaColin has joined #libgdx[12:45:45] <jerome[fr]> Tomski: dist and run works fine now ;)[12:47:29] *** Oebele has quit IRC[12:49:45] *** Oebele has joined #libgdx[12:51:08] *** Thoast has joined #libgdx[12:55:49] *** nemanjakomar has quit IRC[12:57:17] *** mk1 has joined #libgdx[12:58:04] *** erez134 has joined #libgdx[12:58:59] *** tkrp has joined #libgdx[12:59:24] <erez134> hello![13:01:03] <erez134> i have a weird thing im trying to achieve[13:01:40] <erez134> im making a top-down game. with box2dlights where the player has a light source. and also the mobs[13:01:57] *** Biliogadafr has joined #libgdx[13:02:28] <erez134> but i dont want the player to see the mobs lights if they arent in his line of sight[13:03:28] *** erez134 has quit IRC[13:04:27] *** geekchop has quit IRC[13:06:31] *** erez134 has joined #libgdx[13:06:47] *** eReS has quit IRC[13:07:08] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[13:07:10] <erez134> any idea what to do?[13:07:34] <Sadale> no idea[13:07:38] * Sadale ducks[13:08:46] *** jonas-esch has joined #libgdx[13:09:32] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[13:10:33] *** mobaxe has joined #libgdx[13:12:29] *** erez134 has quit IRC[13:14:08] *** derferman has quit IRC[13:35:28] *** qaisjp` is now known as qaisjp[13:37:20] *** Rattus has joined #libgdx[13:37:35] *** Thoast has quit IRC[13:37:59] *** Rattus has left #libgdx[13:38:05] *** jonas-esch has quit IRC[13:53:41] *** Raziel has joined #libgdx[13:55:29] *** tzu_chi has quit IRC[13:56:00] *** tzu_chi has joined #libgdx[14:03:44] *** Joozey has joined #libgdx[14:06:03] *** Sadale has quit IRC[14:09:31] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[14:10:00] *** Larry1123 has quit IRC[14:14:09] *** derferman has quit IRC[14:15:23] *** Keniyal has joined #libgdx[14:16:10] *** Keniyal_ has joined #libgdx[14:16:14] *** Larry1123 has joined #libgdx[14:19:45] *** Keniyal has quit IRC[14:19:54] *** mk11 has joined #libgdx[14:21:57] *** mk1 has quit IRC[14:30:18] *** mobaxe has quit IRC[14:34:13] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[14:37:26] *** mk11 has quit IRC[14:38:49] *** Charlot has quit IRC[14:42:28] *** zz_donCarnage is now known as donCarnage[14:45:42] *** SOAD has joined #libgdx[14:52:01] *** LordDVG has quit IRC[14:52:43] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[14:53:59] *** lasserix has quit IRC[14:57:25] *** Arbos has joined #libgdx[14:57:53] <Lecherito> damn I can't embed swing into a jpanel :([14:57:58] <Lecherito> libgdx*[15:01:07] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[15:01:42] *** r0v3r6 has joined #libgdx[15:02:33] *** ajhager has quit IRC[15:09:31] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[15:14:27] *** derferman has quit IRC[15:15:05] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[15:18:46] *** Xoppa has joined #libgdx[15:18:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[15:21:55] <Scellow> someone is using Pixelmator ? the exported png doesn't seems to work with libgdx :/ i get a blank image[15:23:43] *** jonas-esch has joined #libgdx[15:25:09] *** Mous has joined #libgdx[15:25:14] <Mous> hello[15:29:48] *** jonas-esch_ has joined #libgdx[15:29:52] <Mous> i have quick question. i wonder how would one make a layered "sprite" like having a character which you can equip with diff stuff (armor, etc), btw its 2D game. I thought about layering texture regions but not sure if its the best idea[15:32:53] *** jonas-esch has quit IRC[15:34:48] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[15:35:26] <Tomski> Mous, Spine or Spriter might interest you[15:37:44] *** Guest321 has joined #libgdx[15:40:49] <Mous> hmmm i am no artist but thanks :) i am using LPC sprites right now until i have time to do my own (which might not be anytime since i dont have any artistic feeling)[15:41:04] <Mous> the spine looks nice though[15:43:16] *** StrikerFred has joined #libgdx[15:45:06] <mobidevelop> Layering texture regions is fine[15:46:23] <mobidevelop> Making some sort of LayeredSprite class might be easier to manage[15:47:53] <Mous> yes[15:48:22] <Mous> i was planning of doing class with lets say 6 layers and then i would put the stuff in them[15:49:37] <mobidevelop> Tomski: watch out, you may get the reputation of being the iOS guy if you keep doing stuff for iOS[15:49:59] <Tomski> mobidevelop, still better than gwt[15:50:05] <Lecherito> wow[15:50:07] <Lecherito> shots fired[15:50:10] <mobidevelop> Doubtful[15:50:18] <Tomski> stay of of this Lecherito ![15:50:28] <Lecherito> i'll stay of of this[15:50:36] <mobidevelop> Robovm is even more black magic than gwt :P[15:51:03] <Tomski> Totally[15:51:33] *** Guest321 has quit IRC[15:52:50] <Lecherito> finally rendering tmx in swing! :D[15:56:51] <Tomski> That sounds horrible[15:57:51] <Tomski> Lecherito, are your levels tmx?[15:58:10] <Lecherito> they will be[15:58:42] <Lecherito> why is that horrible?[16:00:24] <mobidevelop> Ew[16:00:28] *** Guest321 has joined #libgdx[16:00:41] <Tomski> the s word[16:00:54] <mobidevelop> Just used Tiled[16:00:56] *** davebaol has quit IRC[16:01:12] <Lecherito> i'm lost[16:02:08] <Lecherito> Is tiled also horrible?[16:02:19] <mobidevelop> No, Swing is horrible[16:02:47] <Lecherito> I plan to remove the tile editor and just load the tmx made with tiled into the editor[16:04:16] <mobidevelop> Then why bother with the editor[16:04:36] <Lecherito> turrets, waves, units[16:06:31] <mobidevelop> Nothing a few objects on a Tiled map can't handle[16:07:35] <Lecherito> the problem is that i won't be the only one doing maps[16:07:50] <Mous> tiled is cool :)[16:07:56] <mobidevelop> Nobody wants to dork around in multiple editors[16:09:30] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[16:12:06] <Lecherito> and who wants to know properties names/values etc etc?[16:12:30] <mobidevelop> The people who want to make the maps[16:12:45] <mobidevelop> So Tomski, are you still using a Mac VM?[16:12:51] *** Tann_ has joined #libgdx[16:12:58] <Tomski> If anyone from apple is listening, no[16:13:03] <mobidevelop> Lol[16:13:17] <mobidevelop> And it just worked with a real device?[16:13:28] <Tomski> Yeah[16:13:35] <Tomski> Pretty magical[16:13:55] <Tomski> Startup times aren't great, but its not super painful[16:14:05] <mobidevelop> Cool, I figured you'd have to jump through some hoops, potentially with flames.[16:14:13] *** derferman has quit IRC[16:15:41] <cosh> http://i.imgur.com/FrdpZLR.png || Why do I get "green lines" in my ocean there when I'm using TextureFilter.Linear?[16:15:47] <cosh> Looks fine with Nearest tho[16:17:20] <cosh> The tileset is perfect and there is no green line in it :([16:17:29] <Tomski> Are youusing padding?[16:17:33] <cosh> No[16:17:35] <cosh> Should I?[16:17:41] <Tomski> Yep[16:18:20] <cosh> I'll do that. Thanks.[16:21:32] *** nexsoftware has joined #libgdx[16:21:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o nexsoftware[16:23:51] <Xoppa> Tomski, on mac, do you happen to know how i can add ant (which is located in a sub folder of documents) to the path? Google tells me to use launchctl but it just doesnt seem to work[16:24:19] *** mobidevelop has quit IRC[16:25:07] *** Guest321 has quit IRC[16:25:09] <Tomski> Xoppa, you could use homebrew, makes that sort of stuff pretty painless[16:25:57] *** sylvain2-thecome has joined #libgdx[16:26:06] <Xoppa> ow that sounds like a good idea, let's see if i can get that to work, thanks Tomski[16:26:07] <Tomski> Otherwise export PATH=/dest/to/ant/bin:"$PATH"[16:26:46] <Tomski> brew install ant <3[16:26:54] <nexsoftware> Heh, you can get a Mac mini for the low low cost to $2200, sign me up![16:27:07] <Tomski> From where?[16:27:18] <nexsoftware> Apple store[16:27:20] <Tomski> Is that what the 2014 version is retailing at?[16:27:52] <cosh> Hmm if I use padding I have black borders around my tiles now with TextureFilter.Nearest :([16:28:04] <cosh> Do I need to fill the padding pixels meaningful?[16:28:05] <sylvain2-thecome> upgrading my 300$ hackintosh right now[16:28:07] <nexsoftware> That was with an i7, 16gb ram, and 1TB flash storage[16:28:15] <Tomski> haha[16:28:20] <InspiredNotion> Eh.. is that a new mac mini?[16:28:26] <nexsoftware> It is[16:28:36] <Tomski> Base price of £400[16:28:44] <Xoppa> thanks Tomski, using homebrew it works[16:28:47] <nexsoftware> That was without any peripherals[16:28:48] <InspiredNotion> kk[16:29:31] <InspiredNotion> they finally upgraded it[16:31:15] <nexsoftware> The base price is $500 for a slow i5, 4gb ram, 500gb of 5400 rpm slow storage[16:31:59] <nexsoftware> Why do they even offer that?[16:32:24] <Tomski> So they can have the "low" "starting from x" on their store page[16:32:30] <nexsoftware> Lol[16:32:36] *** abs25 has joined #libgdx[16:33:04] <nexsoftware> That's only useful for a casual user, then you add some peripherals and you are back up to $2200[16:35:27] <Tomski> Did you add a printer?[16:35:40] <nexsoftware> Nope[16:35:43] <nexsoftware> 2400[16:35:46] <Tomski> You'll need the extended apple care too[16:36:00] <nexsoftware> 3000[16:36:59] <nexsoftware> Add a display port to vga adapter, 3200[16:37:13] <Tomski> vga....[16:37:45] <sylvain2-thecome> hdmi ?[16:37:57] <Tomski> dual dvi for life[16:38:08] <sylvain2-thecome> :)[16:38:17] <nexsoftware> Meh, we corporate folk have vga[16:38:33] <Tomski> I hate it so muc[16:38:33] <Tomski> h[16:38:42] <Tomski> Projector people need to step their game up[16:38:58] <nexsoftware> Lol[16:39:08] <sylvain2-thecome> isnt it 24 frames/sec ?[16:40:38] <nexsoftware> I am probably going to be getting a macbook from work soon so I won't buy one myself[16:40:48] <sylvain2-thecome> my mac setup http://www.tonymacx86.com/user-builds/43721-295-povomac-cheapest-hackintosh-ever-11.html and it works great with 10.9, will try 10.10 soon[16:41:00] <Tomski> Get the one that irons your trousers nexsoftware[16:41:10] <nexsoftware> Naturally[16:41:57] *** r4yburn has quit IRC[16:44:20] *** sylvain2-thecome has quit IRC[16:45:37] <Tomski> Are they doing that just to give you a work laptop?[16:45:48] <Tomski> Or is it a hint to get you to work on ios[16:47:45] <nexsoftware> I had a choice[16:47:57] <nexsoftware> I said, if you ever want me to work on iOS, I need a mac[16:48:43] *** mrR has joined #libgdx[16:48:44] *** r4yburn has joined #libgdx[16:48:56] <nexsoftware> I already work on the iPad app, but only the webview stuff and I can't test it because no mac[16:49:06] *** mrR is now known as Guest4133[16:50:52] <Xoppa> Tomski, if you build ios natives, you simply do ant -f build-ios32.xml? or is there more to it?[16:51:57] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[16:54:02] <Tomski> Xoppa, that should be it[16:54:33] <Tomski> build-mac-ios.xml[16:55:56] <Xoppa> hmm.. where is that file located? https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/tree/master/gdx/jni[16:56:45] <Tomski> Top level[16:57:30] <Tomski> build-mac-ios is the parent script that calls everything in gdx/jni dir[16:57:33] *** Joozey has quit IRC[16:57:46] <Tomski> And all the other dirs[16:58:20] <Xoppa> ah, i see[16:59:02] <Xoppa> i keep getting a stl error, do i need to add some include folders or alike? its all a bit black magic to me[17:01:07] *** lukas has quit IRC[17:01:29] *** eReS has quit IRC[17:03:42] <Tomski> Xoppa, shouldn't need to... whats the error?[17:03:44] *** tzu_chi has quit IRC[17:04:12] <Xoppa> Tomski, stdio.h file not found[17:04:20] <Tomski> Xoppa, do you have xcode 6.1?[17:04:21] *** tzu_chi has joined #libgdx[17:04:45] <Xoppa> Tomski, yes[17:05:15] <Xoppa> had to do a update though (to 10.9 i think)[17:06:10] <nexsoftware> I still only see 31 apps/games available for Android TV[17:08:07] <Tomski> In the middle of upgrading to 6.1 so Ill have to give it a run when its done[17:09:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:12:30] *** hextileX has joined #libgdx[17:13:53] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:14:49] *** jerome[fr] has quit IRC[17:17:47] *** Portals has joined #libgdx[17:18:09] *** jnoob has joined #libgdx[17:19:23] *** mobidevelop has joined #libgdx[17:19:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mobidevelop[17:20:23] <mobidevelop> What the crap is this Potatoman Seeks the Troof game?[17:21:18] <jnoob> I am new to libgdx, and have a question about the gradle project flow. the unlabeled project folder. i.e. it's com.example.test instead of like com.example.test.desktop[17:21:32] <jnoob> does not have a src folder. is that normal?[17:22:17] *** mobidevelop has quit IRC[17:28:56] <Tomski> jnoob, what unlabeled project folder?[17:31:12] <jnoob> so using the project creation tool for libgdx it has generated 5 folders when imported into eclipse. 4 that have NAME-subtype with one of the subtypes being core (i dont have a IOS folder because im not building for ios). Then I have a 5th folder just called shortname[17:31:33] <jnoob> in the shortname folder there is no src[17:31:42] <jnoob> is that normal[17:33:16] <jnoob> project-android, project-desktop, project-html, project-core, project[17:33:26] <jnoob> those are the 5 that it created[17:33:33] <jnoob> the one named project has no src folder[17:34:43] <Tomski> Yep[17:35:01] <Tomski> It acts as the parent for the project as far as the Gradle configuration is concerned[17:35:11] <jnoob> Do i work in the core folder's src then?[17:35:17] <Tomski> Yes[17:35:30] <Tomski> And in the specific platform projects if you require platform specific code[17:35:45] <jnoob> that was my next question --- if custom for platform is normal[17:36:36] *** NateAustin has joined #libgdx[17:36:47] <Xoppa> Tomski, it builds now, i had to pull in the changes badlogic made yesterday[17:37:11] <Tomski> Xoppa, ah, yeah[17:37:18] *** jonas-esch_ has quit IRC[17:39:40] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[17:40:05] <Tomski> Xoppa, did you have xcode 6.0 at one point?[17:40:34] <Tomski> Just wondering if xcode updates clean out old versions[17:40:42] <Xoppa> Tomski, could be, i installed this vm a few months ago to test something, then havent touched it till yesterday[17:42:48] *** StrikerFred has quit IRC[17:43:19] <jnoob> I am still working from a fresh project. When I debug the html or desktop portions of the project everything displays the same. However, the android one is just a black screen. No badlogic logo. I check the asset folder and I see it there.in the android project portion.[17:43:21] *** mrR has joined #libgdx[17:43:23] <jnoob> any ideas?[17:43:32] <jnoob> is that normal?[17:43:48] *** mrR is now known as Guest13347[17:44:02] <Tomski> You havent changed any of the code?[17:44:17] <jnoob> nothing is changed.[17:44:36] <jnoob> just trying to verify everything is setup correctly before i move forward[17:47:05] <jnoob> http://pastebin.com/ajey4rVr[17:47:12] <jnoob> thats the android file[17:47:15] <Tomski> jnoob, what are you running it on?[17:47:18] <jnoob> it looks like it's just loading it[17:47:31] <Tomski> And how are you running it?[17:48:56] <jnoob> debug as android application. I am running on a virtual 4.4.2 device[17:49:23] <Tomski> Do you have an android you can run it on?[17:49:38] <Tomski> Virtual ones, especially android, are pretty terrible[17:49:51] <jnoob> ah, okay let me connect a table or phone 2 sec[17:55:25] *** SgtCoDFish has joined #libgdx[18:01:13] <Xoppa> Tomski, running the tests on ios simulators works as long as i dont click on the screen (no error logged as far as i can see, just gets back to the home screen). Could that be related to the recent changes to ios input?[18:02:36] <Tomski> Yep, just get rid of the robovm container for the tests[18:02:45] <Tomski> And add the jars in the robovm backend libs dir[18:04:46] <Xoppa> ok, thanks, will give that a try later tonight[18:05:43] <jnoob> yep loads normally on an actual android device.[18:06:50] <nexsoftware> Gah, every time I open this stupid Mac one thing or another has to update[18:07:40] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[18:07:58] <nexsoftware> Tomski: did you update your VM to Yosemite?[18:08:09] <Tomski> Nop[18:08:20] <nexsoftware> I can't imagine it would still work[18:09:31] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[18:10:47] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[18:12:31] *** jnoob has quit IRC[18:14:22] *** derferman has quit IRC[18:18:58] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[18:23:26] *** Charlot has quit IRC[18:25:45] *** davebaol has joined #libgdx[18:26:23] *** tzu_chi has quit IRC[18:26:46] *** tzu_chi has joined #libgdx[18:27:09] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[18:28:42] *** Guest321 has joined #libgdx[18:30:12] *** vestu has joined #libgdx[18:31:43] *** Guest321 has quit IRC[18:44:13] *** Natsumi_ has joined #libgdx[18:44:17] *** Natsumi_ is now known as Green_Snake[18:46:06] *** r0v3r6 has quit IRC[18:50:51] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[18:51:33] *** _theone has joined #libgdx[18:52:15] *** Jack_ has joined #libgdx[18:52:54] <_theone> Where do I report a bug?[18:54:13] <nexsoftware> Depends[18:54:26] <nexsoftware> What's the bug?[18:56:02] <_theone> getAssets reporting asset loaded more than once[18:56:10] <_theone> sec...[18:56:39] *** Charlot has quit IRC[19:00:02] *** Guest321 has joined #libgdx[19:01:20] *** Guest321 has quit IRC[19:04:14] <_theone> yea... so my AssetManager is being accessed statically (sue me) ... on subsequent load/resume screens when update is invoked it looks like AssetManager updateTask doesnt check to see if its loaded[19:07:27] <_theone> I need to test whats going on further but if I discover a bug where shall I report it?[19:08:06] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[19:08:13] *** Charlot has quit IRC[19:08:16] <nexsoftware> Don't ever static anything ever first[19:08:26] <_theone> (sue me)[19:08:27] <nexsoftware> If there is a real bug, report on github[19:08:37] <_theone> :)[19:08:40] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[19:09:27] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[19:09:32] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[19:09:47] <_theone> I want front-loading assets...As a user navigates between screens it re-uses assets. I don't want a loading screen on every screen[19:11:06] <_theone> I guess an alternate pattern is to only use one screen... too late for that at this point[19:13:27] <Tomski> That doesnt mean you have to use statics?[19:14:12] *** derferman has quit IRC[19:14:38] <_theone> Whats a better way to persist AssetManager through-out the application?[19:15:22] <_theone> pass it from screen to screen?[19:15:57] *** s has joined #libgdx[19:16:15] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[19:16:21] *** s is now known as Guest22158[19:16:56] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[19:17:41] *** Guest4133 has quit IRC[19:17:41] *** r4yburn has quit IRC[19:17:41] *** Guest13347 has quit IRC[19:17:56] *** r4yburn has joined #libgdx[19:20:40] *** dermetfan has joined #libgdx[19:23:32] *** Guest22158 has quit IRC[19:26:42] *** StrikerFred has joined #libgdx[19:30:08] *** lukas has quit IRC[19:30:36] *** Guest321 has joined #libgdx[19:30:45] *** ruben01 has joined #libgdx[19:30:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ruben01[19:30:51] *** Jack_ has quit IRC[19:31:47] *** suexec has quit IRC[19:32:44] *** _theone has quit IRC[19:37:16] *** Charlot has quit IRC[19:38:20] *** suexec has joined #libgdx[19:41:29] *** Portals has quit IRC[19:46:03] <Guest321> anyone use intellij here?[19:46:22] <Green_Snake> yep![19:46:52] <Guest321> have you had issues with gradle?[19:47:01] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[19:47:29] <Guest321> When I use the new setup.jar, when I first open the project it prompts me that I have an unlinked gradle project.[19:47:46] <Green_Snake> I never link it[19:47:50] <Green_Snake> and it works fine[19:48:00] <Green_Snake> but either way I havent seen any issues[19:48:08] <Green_Snake> there should be a button to link it automatically[19:48:13] <Green_Snake> in the prompt[19:48:13] <Guest321> yeah, it runs for me fine at first[19:48:19] <Guest321> if I link it, then stuff breaks[19:48:35] <Green_Snake> then dont[19:48:39] <Guest321> :)[19:48:57] <Guest321> I was trying to get it working so I could add Artemisodb to my gradle.[19:49:16] <Guest321> This worked on my Mac, but the same setup doesn't work on my Windows box[19:49:33] <Guest321> I guess I'll just manually add artemis support[19:50:50] <Guest321> how do you update to the latest version of libgdx if you're not using gradle?[19:51:25] *** Joozey has joined #libgdx[19:51:34] *** tzu_chi has quit IRC[19:52:11] <Tomski> Guest321, you update the jars yourself[19:52:19] <Tomski> Whats your problem?[19:52:23] <Tomski> What do you mean by stuff breaks[19:52:28] *** tzu_chi has joined #libgdx[19:52:33] <kojjootti2> any ideas why i'am getting file not found error when trying to load assets. I have checked the most obvious reason...[19:52:55] <Guest321> It won't run:Exception in thread "main" com.badlogic.gdx.utils.GdxRuntimeException: Unable to extract LWJGL natives.[19:55:21] <Tomski> Guest321, were you here the other day with that problem?[19:55:27] <Guest321> nope[19:55:44] <Tomski> What version of IDEA? How are you importing?[19:55:52] <Tomski> kojjootti2, with what project/IDE?[19:56:18] <kojjootti2> eclipse[19:56:18] <Guest321> Thanks for the help, I'm just going to link it manually and forget the gradle stuff. I want to spend my time coding my game not fighting setup. :)[19:56:41] <Guest321> I'm using the community preview of 14, clicking on the bubble to import gradle project when it prompts me[19:56:54] <Tomski> But how are you importing the projecT?[19:57:18] <kojjootti2> i think i just imported as files[19:57:47] <Tomski> You should be using: file > import > root build.gradle file[19:57:53] <Tomski> Then importing as gradle project[19:57:58] <kojjootti2> ok. thank you![19:58:08] <Tomski> kojjootti2, not you :P[19:58:31] <Tomski> kojjootti2, have you refreshed your assets folder in eclipse?[19:58:51] <Guest321> thx Tomske[19:58:54] <Guest321> Tomski[19:59:10] <[twisti]> always refresh project folders and project/clean when you have weird issues[20:00:08] <kojjootti2> Tomski: no i haven't, how do that?[20:00:44] <Tomski> I think its project > clean/refresh[20:01:19] <[twisti]> i think you also need to select the project in the project explorer and press f5[20:01:23] <[twisti]> and after that project/clean[20:01:25] <Tomski> You can just select a folder and f5 too[20:02:16] <kojjootti2> ok. i didn't understand this was necessary.[20:03:53] <kojjootti2> i'll try it when my gradle project is loaded ;)[20:06:13] *** pokkeli has joined #libgdx[20:06:28] *** codi^r has joined #libgdx[20:07:43] <kojjootti2> that didn't solve that[20:08:03] <Tomski> Ok, so how are you loading? What is the line you are using?[20:09:07] <Xoppa> hmmm... now it crashes immediatly after showing the splash screen, is it possible to debug ios to get a usefull error message?[20:09:32] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[20:10:40] <kojjootti2> manager.load("images/droid.png", Texture.class);[20:10:53] <kojjootti2> and then in render i call manager.update()[20:11:39] *** NateAustin has quit IRC[20:12:15] <Tomski> So you have a file droid.png in the directory android/assets/images/ ?[20:12:38] <kojjootti2> yes.[20:13:55] <kojjootti2> at the moment it's actually in android/assets/data/images/ but no better results when i copy that folder to assets-folder[20:14:17] *** derferman has quit IRC[20:14:34] <Tomski> Put droid.png in android/assets/images[20:14:38] <Tomski> refresh[20:14:40] <Tomski> try to run[20:15:24] <kojjootti2> yes. now it works! I thank you sir! ;)[20:30:30] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[20:34:51] *** lukas has quit IRC[20:37:51] *** nemanjakomar has joined #libgdx[20:41:20] *** Joozey has quit IRC[20:44:02] *** ajhager has quit IRC[20:50:35] <Mous> how would you check if the character is moving to non-walkable tile[20:50:38] <Mous> like wall[20:50:54] <Green_Snake> entirely depends on your setup[20:51:10] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[20:51:25] <Green_Snake> probably simply explained is that you check if the sprites edges are hitting with the tiles edges[20:51:33] *** davcri has joined #libgdx[20:51:34] <Green_Snake> if is you stop its movement[20:51:50] <Mous> there is not much of setup, only map from tiled and some textureRegions[20:52:19] <Green_Snake> I dont use either of those things so I wont be able to help with specifics[20:55:13] <Mous> the weird thing is that i was able to cast from MapLayer to TiledMapTileLayer but now i cant[21:00:11] <Mous> super weird before i was able to do TiledMapTileLayer layer = (TiledMapTileLayer)tiledMap.getLayers().get(1); but now i cant[21:00:16] *** Jpnock6 has joined #libgdx[21:00:33] <dermetfan> Mous: not all MapLayers must be TiledMapTileLayers[21:00:48] <dermetfan> check if layer instanceof TiledMapTileLayer first[21:01:05] <Mous> you are right[21:01:15] <Mous> i have some object layers in it now too[21:01:26] *** Jpnock7 has joined #libgdx[21:02:14] *** Jpnock5 has quit IRC[21:05:08] *** Jpnock6 has quit IRC[21:06:51] *** Joozey has joined #libgdx[21:07:03] <Charlot> Hi! How Can I do a task every x Seconds but every x seconds, the first x change of value[21:08:30] *** nemanjakomar has quit IRC[21:09:28] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[21:10:39] <nexsoftware> O.o[21:14:19] *** derferman has quit IRC[21:15:30] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[21:15:50] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[21:18:56] *** tzu_chi has quit IRC[21:19:28] *** tzu_chi has joined #libgdx[21:20:15] <Charlot> Do someone can help me?[21:20:18] *** lukas has quit IRC[21:21:24] <Xoppa> Charlot, try rephrasing your question, perhaps explain what you actually want to accomplish - the use case.[21:22:42] <Charlot> I want to spawn a block every x seconds. Every 5 seconds (example) I want to decrease this x Value. example At beginning, the x value will be 2 and after 5 seconds the x value will be 1[21:24:45] *** suexec has quit IRC[21:25:13] <Charlot> Do you understand better?[21:25:29] <dermetfan> quick and dirty using Timer:[21:25:30] <dermetfan> private void scheduleSpawnTask(float delay) {[21:25:32] <dermetfan> Timer.schedule(new Timer.Task() {[21:25:34] <dermetfan> // spawn block[21:25:35] <dermetfan> scheduleSpawnTask(delay - 1);[21:25:37] <dermetfan> });[21:25:38] <dermetfan> }[21:25:39] <dermetfan> but that's not very flexible and probably you prefer to do this in the render loop or something[21:26:08] <dermetfan> (oops, forgot to pass delay as second argument to schedule)[21:26:43] <Charlot> Ok I will try this but there's nothing else?[21:26:50] <Xoppa> probably the easiest (and best to learn) way to accomplish that is to add something like this to your render method: if ((decreseTime -= Gdx.graphics.getDeltaTime()) <= 0) { decreseTime += 5f; xValue -= 1f; } if ((timeLeft -= Gdx.graphics.getDeltaTime()) <= 0f) { spawnBlock(); timeLeft += xValue; }[21:27:52] <Charlot> Ok i will try this two "methods"! Thanks! :)[21:28:01] <dermetfan> xoppa wins[21:28:05] <Charlot> ahaha :)[21:28:29] <Xoppa> xValue *= 0.5f; fits probably better for your use-case[21:29:18] <Charlot> Ok I will give you feedback soon :)[21:30:03] *** megasoft78 has joined #libgdx[21:30:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o megasoft78[21:31:07] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[21:33:04] <Charlot> The timeLeft variable is a float value ?[21:33:29] <Xoppa> all floats and you'd have to initialize them[21:33:38] <Charlot> Yes of course! :)[21:33:56] *** patriick has joined #libgdx[21:36:13] *** ASneakyFox has joined #libgdx[21:37:17] <Charlot> Do you have any good value for decreaseTime; timeLeft; xValue;[21:37:29] <Charlot> I trry some value but there's no difference[21:37:37] <Charlot> Maybe I try too small number[21:37:46] *** WingEraser has joined #libgdx[21:38:14] <Xoppa> according to your description: decreaseTime = 5; timeLeft = 2f; xValue = 2;[21:39:08] <Charlot> Ok thank you thats is better :)[21:39:17] *** donCarnage is now known as zz_donCarnage[21:39:17] *** nemanjakomar has joined #libgdx[21:39:46] *** megasoft78 has quit IRC[21:41:11] *** nemanjak_ has joined #libgdx[21:41:23] *** nemanjakomar has quit IRC[21:43:11] *** eReS has quit IRC[21:43:36] *** vestu has quit IRC[21:45:44] *** nemanjak_ has quit IRC[21:47:54] *** poxip has joined #libgdx[21:54:02] *** Charlot has quit IRC[21:59:27] *** Apokaliptor has joined #libgdx[22:00:17] <zhiayang> how does shooting from a moving source actually work?[22:00:40] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[22:00:40] <zhiayang> i can probably figure out the math, but its behaviour? my favourite reference game rotmg isn't working[22:00:45] <zhiayang> (2d top-down btw)[22:01:16] <zhiayang> should the projectiles only have velocity in the appropriate direction, or should player velocity be added to it as well?[22:02:01] <dermetfan> adding the player velocity would be more realistic[22:02:15] <zhiayang> dermetfan: the entire velocity, or scaled down?[22:02:42] <dermetfan> I'm not a physicist but the entire velocity I suppose[22:02:53] <zhiayang> sure, i'll try that[22:02:58] <Tomski> The problem is....[22:03:30] <Tomski> With real bullets, you wouldn't really notice the additional velocity due to the magnitude difference[22:03:38] <zhiayang> arrows[22:04:47] <Tomski> That would be interesting[22:04:59] <Ashiren> well you could watch that Mythbusters episode[22:05:00] *** patriick has quit IRC[22:05:02] <Tomski> Probably would fly terribly[22:05:06] <Ashiren> when they were shooting ball from car[22:05:16] <Tomski> Yea, that was cool[22:05:24] <Ashiren> 50 km/h (or something) vs -50 km/h[22:05:30] <Ashiren> and it stayed in air[22:05:38] <Tomski> zhiayang, realistically yes. Might not be the best for gameplay though[22:05:46] <zhiayang> hmm.[22:07:32] <zhiayang> this is practically a realmofthemadgod clone, so could someone conduct an experiment for me to see how projectiles behave there?[22:07:43] <zhiayang> i can't actually play that, something's wrong with the servers[22:09:15] *** WingEraser has left #libgdx[22:09:32] *** megasoft78 has joined #libgdx[22:09:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o megasoft78[22:09:44] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[22:11:11] *** Charlot has quit IRC[22:12:02] <Tomski> Looks like they just have a set velocity[22:12:08] <Tomski> Arrows having some slight seeking[22:12:34] <zhiayang> Tomski: so only initial velocity without adding the players' ?[22:12:56] <Tomski> I think so, Ill give it a play[22:13:14] <zhiayang> thank you[22:13:31] <zhiayang> i can't actually get past the damn loading screen, i would love to play that game rn instead of making a clone ._.[22:13:53] *** derferman has quit IRC[22:14:20] <Ashiren> i cant play neither[22:14:30] <zhiayang> hmm.[22:14:31] <Ashiren> loaded but cant connect to server[22:15:13] <Tomski> Yep, its set velocity[22:15:26] <zhiayang> i see.[22:15:29] <nick-drt-nap> anyone using the ipad air 2 with libgdx testing?[22:15:30] <zhiayang> thank you![22:20:00] <kojjootti2> nick-drt-nap: planned to, but i haven't tried yet.[22:20:11] <nick-drt-nap> i might go pick one up[22:20:31] <nick-drt-nap> i dont want to get one knowing it will fail since I only have one ios device[22:20:39] <kojjootti2> i'am not sure if you need a development license or something like that[22:21:05] <Tomski> Ya do[22:21:47] *** Jpnock7 has quit IRC[22:22:24] <Lecherito> using an absolutefileresolver with tmx leads to C:/Users/Javi/Desktop/D:/Infinite TD/Infinite TD Editor/res/64x64/terrain.png, why is that C:/users/... if I told it that it would be absolute?[22:22:47] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[22:23:58] *** megasoft78 has quit IRC[22:26:56] *** Jpnock5 has joined #libgdx[22:27:19] <ASneakyFox> im looking to buy a used macbook so i can compile my libgdx app on ios. does anyone know what version of mac i need minimum to be looking for?[22:28:00] <zhiayang> ASneakyFox: honestly anything after 2010 or 2011 should be fine[22:28:11] *** SgtCoDFish has quit IRC[22:28:38] <zhiayang> if you want to target ios8 then just get any osx 10.10 supported models[22:28:54] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[22:38:33] *** Apokaliptor has quit IRC[22:41:38] <ASneakyFox> thanks zhiayang, btw a number of laptops on craigslist ive seen have a GMA 950 video card. i take it those laptops wouldnt be able to run a libgdx app cause libgdx needs atleast opengl 2?[22:42:10] <zhiayang> probably, yea[22:42:11] *** nemanjakomar has joined #libgdx[22:42:39] <zhiayang> 2011 and newer should have at least intel hd iirc[22:43:48] <ASneakyFox> ok thanks[22:46:23] *** nemanjakomar has quit IRC[22:48:38] <nick-drt-nap> ASneakyFox: i got a macbook 2010 for like 200 off criagslist[22:48:49] <nick-drt-nap> core 2 dua i think[22:49:01] <nick-drt-nap> i wouldnt go with anything less than that[22:49:27] <nick-drt-nap> i also use it as a backup laptop to compile, but it takes like over a minute to compile my game[22:49:32] <nick-drt-nap> sucks balls[22:50:00] *** ColaColin has joined #libgdx[22:50:16] *** Charlot has joined #libgdx[22:52:37] <ASneakyFox> unforuntately i think being in the raleigh area our used macbook prices are inflated some ^.^[22:52:59] <ASneakyFox> i found a few in the 350-400 range which might not be too bad i guess[22:53:00] <nick-drt-nap> macbook airs is going to cost you 1k used[22:53:06] <nick-drt-nap> or 850 new at best buy[22:53:14] <nick-drt-nap> dont ask me whats up with that[22:53:32] <nick-drt-nap> put a ssd in it and they will be ok[22:54:27] *** nooone has quit IRC[22:54:38] <ASneakyFox> cause best buy is on the verge of extinction probably[22:54:40] *** nooone has joined #libgdx[22:54:51] *** Charlot has quit IRC[22:55:25] *** scheme has left #libgdx[22:59:38] *** 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