October 4, 2014 
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October 4, 2014 [00:00:10] <Xoppa> every entity is in memory anyway, i'd assume, so why the additional map instead of an additional entity member?[00:00:26] *** pmartino has joined #libgdx[00:01:06] *** Tann_ has joined #libgdx[00:02:46] *** Qowface has joined #libgdx[00:05:14] <kalle_h> Xoppa: I use those EntityViews as filters so I can do some operations only for entities that have certain components(or not have them). But many times entities want to point to others and I don't allow direct pointer access for many reasons so they just refer others wiht ID[00:05:47] <kalle_h> so I need really fast way to find entity with certain ID from certain view[00:06:03] <esvee_> sweet, i simplified a 20+ states state machine i wrote last time to just 5 states. took 12 hours to figure out the state minimization and sort out little ugly problems. *happy*[00:06:36] <kalle_h> esvee_: there are some algorithms for that[00:07:02] <hextileX> kalle_h: dont remind me at university[00:07:22] <esvee_> kalle_h, it isn't a traditional state machine, i didn't think correctly about the problem and it caused an explosion of different states (a fsm state min algorithm wouldn't do any good)[00:07:23] *** Jonas__ has joined #libgdx[00:07:24] <kalle_h> state reducing by pen and paper[00:07:48] <kalle_h> it wasn't any fun[00:07:56] <esvee_> a lot of the states could be minimized to a simple 'if' statement outside of the state machine[00:07:59] *** prqtnc has joined #libgdx[00:08:10] <hextileX> I get gradle dependencies problem. But I inserted the repository where gradle can find the artifact.[00:08:30] <Xoppa> i'm confused, you want to find an enitiy by its id, and its id is the index in the array...[00:08:52] <esvee_> i really love the ashley framework, it's so fun to see my awful design from last time gets packed in small elegant components[00:09:35] <hextileX> esvee_: do you have click or gesture listeners on your entities?[00:09:53] <kalle_h> Xoppa: at first I thought this was so rare event and didn't optimize it al all and used linear search. Then some gameplay code happens and it was using ~60% of frame time. Then I optimized it to use Hash and its <10% anymore but I want to make sure it will scale[00:09:55] <esvee_> yeah, why?[00:10:14] <hextileX> esvee_: because I am scratching my head because of this.[00:10:21] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[00:10:26] <esvee_> what's the problem?[00:10:31] <kalle_h> Xoppa: I said that I can't use array because it would be too sparse[00:10:40] <hextileX> do you still use scene2d with actor?[00:10:46] <kalle_h> so I use compacted array. So holes are removed[00:11:00] <hextileX> and if not: how do can get gesture events on entities?[00:11:11] <Xoppa> ah, so id != index within the array[00:11:26] <esvee_> hextileX, i don't use scene2d, way overkill for my needs[00:11:40] <esvee_> hextileX, i don't use gestures as well[00:11:42] <kalle_h> Xoppa: yup[00:11:46] <hextileX> cool. but how do you manage this?[00:11:54] <hextileX> is your code open source?[00:12:03] <esvee_> nop, closed source (even paying goddamn github)[00:12:27] <esvee_> i have one big dumb listener, and i figure out what do to from there[00:12:29] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[00:12:43] <esvee_> depending on the context i might ray pick an entity and send it a message[00:12:46] <hextileX> one listener for the comlete screen?[00:13:10] <hextileX> and then you find the entiy yourself?[00:13:12] <esvee_> yup.. maybe there's a better way, but it does the job[00:13:12] <Xoppa> if the id's are within specific ranges (read fit memory you want to use for it) then using an index array is a very good method[00:13:34] <esvee_> yeah, i just do the good ol' brute force search. i have max ~100 entities so i don't care[00:13:35] *** Jonas__ has quit IRC[00:13:48] <hextileX> esvee_: I see.[00:14:02] <hextileX> thanks! do you think you can share this peace of code?[00:14:26] <esvee_> i'm rewriting the game from scratch, the current code does nothing, and the old code is extremely convoluted[00:14:51] <Xoppa> kalle_h, whenever id's get out of the range you are willing to use, then you could always re-index them (remove unused indices)[00:14:52] <hextileX> ok. but thanks for the idea.[00:15:02] <esvee_> but i don't think there isn't something solvable by ray picking and message passing[00:15:06] <hextileX> at the moment I stick to scene2d but I want to switch sometimes[00:15:10] <esvee_> i implemented my own message handling to work with ashley[00:15:17] <hextileX> kk[00:15:24] <esvee_> :)[00:15:50] <hextileX> but at the moment I try my luck with a multiplayer prototype[00:16:25] *** esvee__ has joined #libgdx[00:16:27] <hextileX> it is such a idea that I think: we did nobody else did this?[00:16:41] <hextileX> I mean why[00:16:59] <esvee__> i'm sorry man, i disconnected[00:17:11] <esvee__> can you c&p what you said?[00:17:21] <hextileX> 00:14:57 - hextileX: […] ut at the moment I try my luck with a multiplayer prototype[00:17:21] <hextileX> 00:15:34 - hextileX: it is such a idea that I think: we did nobody else did this?[00:17:43] <hextileX> arg. im tired[00:17:53] <hextileX> to many spell mistakes[00:18:37] <esvee__> i'm also doing a multiplayer game[00:18:42] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[00:18:53] <hextileX> Oh. nice. which server do you use?[00:18:53] <esvee__> but i'm making a re-make of an old game. :)[00:19:06] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[00:19:15] <esvee__> currently AppWarp since i don't want to invest time in developing the boilerprate infrastructure[00:19:15] <hextileX> I try Cubeia Firebase at the moment[00:19:25] <esvee__> if i see i get some players going, i'll rewrite with Kryonet[00:19:27] <Xoppa> kalle_h, you could index them depending on the existing indices, e.g. if you remove an entity set it to null in the index array, if you create an entity set it's id to the first null index.[00:19:32] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[00:19:41] <hextileX> esvee__: do the player need to register at appwarp?[00:19:48] <esvee__> nop[00:19:56] <hextileX> cool[00:20:02] <hextileX> maybe I should have a look[00:20:10] <esvee__> it costs too much man.[00:20:14] <hextileX> I use a open source server in java[00:20:18] <esvee__> they want 2500$ for a server, and i need two of them[00:20:25] <hextileX> woooooooo[00:20:30] <esvee__> but 300 CCU is free, so idc right now[00:20:31] <kalle_h> Xoppa: its nice for deubbing when id tell the order of creation[00:20:33] *** esvee_ has quit IRC[00:20:53] <hextileX> did not thought that a server cost so much today[00:21:01] <esvee__> it's not the server, it's the stupid license[00:21:30] <hextileX> I try to stick to open source and a small server of a friend[00:21:38] <esvee__> i use two VPS's, a test dreamhost for 8$, and an EU server for 50 EUR[00:21:44] <hextileX> hope to reduce cost to maybe 50€ / month[00:21:49] <hextileX> at the biginnung[00:22:03] <hextileX> ok[00:22:15] <esvee__> what kinda game are you doing?[00:22:17] <esvee__> just curious[00:22:47] <Xoppa> kalle_h, then surround it with #ifndef _DEBUG (trading debug over memory) or add an additional member (debug only) which indicates the order of creation[00:23:13] <hextileX> esvee__: party game[00:23:27] <kalle_h> that woudl work[00:23:30] <hextileX> like mario party[00:23:39] <hextileX> where people sit together and have fun[00:23:39] <esvee__> oo[00:23:49] <esvee__> nice[00:23:56] <esvee__> hopefully alcohol is also involved[00:24:04] <hextileX> but at the moment I will only create a small prototype and then think about it[00:24:14] <hextileX> esvee__: there will be a 18 version[00:24:28] <hextileX> or 21 for the suck states[00:24:32] <esvee__> o[00:24:38] <hextileX> for germany a 16 version :->[00:24:42] <esvee__> hhh[00:25:05] <hextileX> mabye also a streaptease version (with cheats)[00:25:05] <esvee__> well gl with that mate[00:25:26] <esvee__> i'ma grab a smoke and think about how to implement one more feature before i fall to sleep[00:25:33] <hextileX> better: streaptease with IAP cheat for maybe 10$[00:25:58] <hextileX> would be selling like russian bread[00:26:33] *** warmwaffles has quit IRC[00:28:41] *** Fitzy_ has joined #libgdx[00:28:51] *** Fitzy has quit IRC[00:30:39] <kalle_h> Xoppa: I coded stripped down hashMap function that I propably going to use. http://pastebin.com/Qp8Bb90g[00:30:43] <hextileX> gradle can not find the dependecy javax.transaction:jta:1.0.1B:jta.jar[00:31:03] <hextileX> But I inserted http://central.maven.org/maven2 as repository[00:31:36] <hextileX> I think the classifier is incorrect. But I can not change them. How can I solve this?[00:32:00] <kalle_h> Xoppa: it does cause one indirection and one branch extra in avarage. Compared to straight array but data is quite compact and work in general case[00:34:39] <Xoppa> kalle_h, looks good, but why not use an index array? is it really that much ram you're trading?[00:34:44] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[00:35:37] <kalle_h> 50 * 100k * 4bytes = 20Mb[00:35:46] *** Jonas__ has joined #libgdx[00:35:51] <kalle_h> its not that much after all[00:36:35] <Xoppa> i meant like the way i suggested, set to null on removal, use first null value on creation[00:36:49] <kalle_h> so it would be 2Mb[00:36:59] <kalle_h> that does not sound bad[00:37:39] <kalle_h> need to benchmark[00:38:01] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[00:38:09] <kalle_h> its not the amount of memory but access patterns which is impossible to theorize[00:38:57] *** Fitzy_ has quit IRC[00:38:57] *** deniska has quit IRC[00:38:58] *** lasserix has quit IRC[00:42:03] <Xoppa> std::vector<T*> indices; on remove: indices.at(entity.id) = 0; on creationg for (std::vector<T*>::iterator it = indices.begin(); it != indices.end(); ++it) if ((*it) == null) return &(*it); // untested et al[00:44:30] <Xoppa> euhm, iterate on index there, but you get what i mean[00:46:26] *** esvee_ has joined #libgdx[00:48:02] *** hextileX has quit IRC[00:48:21] *** LiquidNitrogen has joined #libgdx[00:48:39] *** francisl has joined #libgdx[00:49:09] *** jeffo has quit IRC[00:49:39] *** warmwaffles has joined #libgdx[00:49:40] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[00:50:04] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[00:50:09] *** esvee__ has quit IRC[00:51:35] <kalle_h> Xoppa: I propably should keep free list to make creation as O(1)[00:52:02] <kalle_h> hmm, sorted free list. start to sound bad[00:52:30] <Xoppa> free list doesn't sound bad to me[00:52:32] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[00:52:54] <Xoppa> *stack[00:54:57] *** francisl has quit IRC[00:56:52] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[00:58:01] *** lasserix has joined #libgdx[00:58:01] *** ruben01 has quit IRC[01:00:12] *** ruben01 has joined #libgdx[01:00:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ruben01[01:05:06] *** stefzekiller has quit IRC[01:10:13] *** wreed__ has joined #libgdx[01:13:37] *** wreed has quit IRC[01:15:24] *** dauntless26 has joined #libgdx[01:15:41] <dauntless26> Hey guys[01:16:24] <dauntless26> Is there a way to set up a project without using gradle?[01:17:33] *** Fulcanoo has joined #libgdx[01:18:50] *** Fulcanoo has quit IRC[01:18:51] <Xoppa> dauntless26, sure http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/download.html[01:19:36] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[01:21:09] <dauntless26> Ok. Is that something I can download abe transfer to a computer with no internet access? Because all the Times I've tried to use the set up files it requires internet.[01:21:21] <dauntless26> And*[01:22:07] *** wreed__ is now known as wreed[01:22:50] *** scape_ has quit IRC[01:22:53] <Xoppa> yes http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/releases/[01:23:53] <dauntless26> Ok I'll try thanks![01:25:36] <dauntless26> Should I use the nightly or official release?[01:26:44] *** Jumblemuddle has joined #libgdx[01:27:22] <Jumblemuddle> What is the best way to 'brighten' a texture? I know I can use SpriteBatch.setcolor() to darken one, but it doesn't seem to accept floats larger than 1f.[01:31:57] <kalle_h> Jumblemuddle: modify vertex shader a bit. multiply v_color by 2 and then use 0.5f,0.5f,0.5f,0.5f gray as default[01:33:35] *** cackling_grandma has joined #libgdx[01:33:57] *** prqtnc has quit IRC[01:35:08] <dauntless26> If I develop a project on my for desktop and decide I want to support other platforms later what is the best way to go about this? Assume I only created a desktop subproject.[01:36:32] *** Xoppa has quit IRC[01:37:35] *** SgtCoDFish has joined #libgdx[01:37:37] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[01:39:18] *** SgtCoDFish has left #libgdx[01:43:57] <mobidevelop> I wish that gdx-pay had its own tests separate from the main tests, makes it a pain to ignore those projects[01:46:13] <dauntless26> How do I import a new project into eclipse without using gradle?[01:51:43] *** dauntless26 has quit IRC[01:52:33] *** derferma_ has joined #libgdx[01:56:44] *** Lecherito has quit IRC[01:57:01] *** Jumblemuddle has quit IRC[01:57:17] *** derferma_ has quit IRC[01:57:39] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[02:01:16] <davebaol> mobidevelop: how to set a private field via libgdx refection?[02:02:05] <davebaol> ClassReflection.getField() only finds public fields[02:02:28] <mobidevelop> getDeclaredField[02:04:16] <davebaol> mobidevelop: looks like it doesn't work if the field is declared in a superclass[02:04:35] <mobidevelop> That's no different than standard java reflection[02:05:21] <davebaol> right, you might have private fields with the same name in the hierarchy[02:05:59] <mobidevelop> Indeed[02:06:28] *** GUIpsp has quit IRC[02:09:40] *** kalle_h has quit IRC[02:10:58] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[02:11:49] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[02:16:10] *** blomman has quit IRC[02:21:02] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[02:21:47] *** shadowrunner has joined #libgdx[02:25:29] *** wreed is now known as migro34[02:25:41] *** migro34 is now known as wreed[02:28:40] *** Delmadan has joined #libgdx[02:29:47] <Delmadan> anyone having issues with RoboVM + iOS8?[02:30:06] *** ColaColin_ has joined #libgdx[02:30:24] <Delmadan> resize() doesnt change width or height with orientation changes for me[02:30:45] <Delmadan> It’s breaking my heart :([02:34:01] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[02:35:17] *** Delmadan has left #libgdx[02:35:31] *** joshuafcole has quit IRC[02:36:10] *** Delmadan has joined #libgdx[02:36:48] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[02:39:09] *** cackling_ladies has quit IRC[02:41:47] *** francisl has joined #libgdx[02:42:19] <davebaol> Delmadan: yeah there are some issues on the tracker[02:42:26] <davebaol> they are working on them[02:42:37] <Delmadan> davebaol: cheers :)[02:42:54] <Delmadan> good to know im not the only one with the issue :P[02:44:04] <Tann_> Anyone here done much with music in LibGDX?[02:44:17] <davebaol> Delmadan: https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/labels/ios[02:44:20] <Tann_> Can't find a good workaround, music.setPosition is missing : ([02:45:17] <Delmadan> thanks davebaol![02:45:57] <davebaol> Delmadan: your specific issue might be already fixed though[02:45:58] <davebaol> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/issues?q=label%3Aios+is%3Aclosed[02:46:27] <Delmadan> I’ll update to nighlies and check it that resolved it :)[02:47:01] <davebaol> yep it's your best bet :)[02:52:32] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[02:55:08] *** lukas has quit IRC[02:57:25] *** derferman has quit IRC[02:59:39] *** cackling_ladies has joined #libgdx[03:00:28] *** warmwaffles has quit IRC[03:04:11] *** Delmadan has quit IRC[03:04:47] *** ruben01 has quit IRC[03:05:15] *** Tann_ has quit IRC[03:07:41] *** joshuafcole has quit IRC[03:07:52] *** Tann_ has joined #libgdx[03:08:54] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[03:09:16] *** Delmadan has joined #libgdx[03:09:58] *** cackling_ladies has quit IRC[03:10:53] *** Keniyal has quit IRC[03:11:14] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[03:11:31] *** Guest9522 is now known as Krash[03:13:20] *** francisl has quit IRC[03:18:15] *** nick-blend-farm is now known as nick-mixmaster[03:18:37] *** neeemo has quit IRC[03:20:58] *** davebaol has quit IRC[03:22:05] *** xupisco has quit IRC[03:22:29] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[03:22:32] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[03:24:05] *** FrottyZad has joined #libgdx[03:25:01] <FrottyZad> Is there any obvious mistake I could have made, when my game draws differently on desktop and android?[03:25:30] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[03:25:42] *** Delmadan has quit IRC[03:30:28] *** lukas has quit IRC[03:35:05] <TEttinger> FrottyZad, differently how? positions?[03:35:28] <FrottyZad> no, complete sprites are not drawn[03:35:31] <FrottyZad> at complete random[03:35:38][03:35:45] <FrottyZad> it always works on desktop[03:36:27] *** mattdesl has quit IRC[03:36:44] <FrottyZad> it's only the background tho[03:37:50] *** ajhager has quit IRC[03:38:15] <TEttinger> uh... do you have any screenshots? I wonder if this is related to them not being reloaded when your game comes back from sleep or pause on android[03:38:25] <FrottyZad> TEttinger: making right now[03:38:37] <FrottyZad> and no, fresh start out of eclipse[03:38:46] <TEttinger> damn...[03:39:24][03:39:47] <FrottyZad> TEttinger: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1shjidz7m7nhg5i/2014_10_04_03.37.19.png?dl=0[03:39:50] <FrottyZad> this on my nexus 5[03:40:23] <FrottyZad> the stage stuff is drawn properly, but the whole bg cascade is missing[03:40:30] <FrottyZad> sometimes half of the cascade appears..[03:40:42] <FrottyZad> it's at the top of my renderfunc[03:40:46] <TEttinger> I can't see a cascade on desktop[03:41:04] <TEttinger> ph[03:41:05] <TEttinger> oh[03:41:09] <FrottyZad> just called it that way[03:41:19] <TEttinger> behind the portrait and Fff and stuff[03:41:24] <FrottyZad> yes[03:41:59] <TEttinger> and that's a sprite on both, but is maybe the position set differently on different screen sizes?[03:42:11] <FrottyZad> no it's all dynamic[03:42:19] <FrottyZad> all with realtive values[03:42:27] <FrottyZad> and I can resize on desktop w/o probs[03:42:51] <FrottyZad> And the first screen (main menu) displays fine[03:43:37] <FrottyZad> is it not ok to being and end a spritebatch multiple times?[03:43:42] <FrottyZad> begin*[03:44:21] <TEttinger> it's definitely bad to have multiple spritebatches in begin mode at the same time[03:44:33] <FrottyZad> no, I have only 1 spritebatch[03:44:51] <FrottyZad> which begins and ends multiple times[03:44:58] <TEttinger> can you maybe pastebin the render code?[03:45:03] <FrottyZad> sure[03:45:55] <FrottyZad> http://pastebin.com/4mjsmPmV[03:47:07] <FrottyZad> the header basically does what is done with the topsprite above[03:47:45] <TEttinger> ok, so header is the part that's not working right on mobile?[03:47:54] <FrottyZad> the whole background as you can see[03:47:59] <FrottyZad> it's only the background color[03:48:07] <FrottyZad> none of the sprites in that batch are drawn[03:48:52] *** wreed has quit IRC[03:49:11] <TEttinger> what is yr2a?[03:50:14] <TEttinger> I wonder if it has to do with the GlClear call filling the background with the correct color on desktop but not on mobile[03:51:01] <FrottyZad> yr2a just converts the relative float to pixel coords[03:51:28] <FrottyZad> just a small workaround for now[03:51:33] <FrottyZad> so[03:51:48] <FrottyZad> when I first start from eclipse, sometimes the 2 big sprites are drawn[03:51:52] <FrottyZad> but not the small lines[03:51:59] <FrottyZad> if I start it again from the device, nothing is drawn[03:52:00] <FrottyZad> ...[03:52:34] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[03:52:38] <TEttinger> hmmm[03:52:43] <FrottyZad> I get[03:52:51] <FrottyZad> GL_INVALID_OPERATION in logcat[03:52:55] *** ajhager has joined #libgdx[03:53:07] <FrottyZad> relevant?[03:53:43] <FrottyZad> I suppose it is[03:53:44] <FrottyZad> :D[03:53:47] <TEttinger> sounds like it. I'm guessing that's the clear not working. I'll check the site[03:54:00] <FrottyZad> any other simple way for a background color?[03:54:14] <FrottyZad> or just another sprite sufficient?[03:56:53] <TEttinger> yeah, I think that the way you're accessing gl is not good for GL ES on android/iOS https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Clearing-the-screen[03:57:32] *** derferman has quit IRC[03:57:41] <FrottyZad> I copied that from a libgdx sample somewhere[03:57:47] <FrottyZad> Thanks for the link[03:57:48] <FrottyZad> will try[03:57:55] <TEttinger> try switching to that, FrottyZad, those 2 lines should be different since libgdx 1.0.0[03:58:41] *** FrottyZad is now known as Frotty[04:00:19] <Frotty> TEttinger: no luck[04:01:48] <Frotty> error persists[04:02:13] <Frotty> But now the weird behaviour is somewhat consistent[04:02:25] <Frotty> start from eclipse: most sprites drawn[04:02:29] <Frotty> start from device: none[04:02:45] <Frotty> and still the logcat warning[04:02:51] <Frotty> running latest nightlies[04:05:26] <TEttinger> that logcat is odd... wonder if anyone else has had this problem. oddly quiet in here.[04:05:31] <Frotty> 10-04 04:04:06.861: W/Adreno-ES20(28741): <core_glUseProgram:1533>: GL_INVALID_OPERATION[04:05:37] <Frotty> that's the whole line btw[04:06:23] <TEttinger> are you doing anything with shaders?[04:06:27] <Frotty> nope[04:07:31] *** Raziel has quit IRC[04:13:06] *** francisl has joined #libgdx[04:14:14] *** Mystor has quit IRC[04:16:19] <Frotty> I have no clue[04:18:13] <Frotty> hm[04:18:19] <Frotty> always happens after 1 screenchange[04:18:28] <Frotty> the first mainmenu screen looks fine[04:18:41] <Frotty> but if i go into settings and back into the mainmenu, it breaks[04:18:50] <Frotty> and the INVALID_OP warning appears in logcat[04:19:51] *** mockillo has quit IRC[04:20:07] <TEttinger> that's probably a clue somehow...[04:20:29] <TEttinger> maybe how you're re-initializing the sprites for main menu?[04:21:20] <Frotty> what do you mean by "re-initializing"[04:21:28] <Frotty> they are only created once from the atlas[04:22:01] <TEttinger> so they aren't disposed when you change screens?[04:22:31] <Frotty> no[04:23:35] <Frotty> now the thing is[04:23:47] *** Tann_ has quit IRC[04:23:50] <Frotty> if I start from eclipse now, and change between mainmenu and settings[04:23:53] <Frotty> everything is fine[04:24:03] <Frotty> If I close the app and restart from device, it's broken[04:24:06] <Frotty> how is that even possible[04:24:07] <Frotty> ?[04:24:16] *** Tann_ has joined #libgdx[04:24:21] <TEttinger> did you change any code???[04:24:53] <Frotty> I removed a duplicate render request[04:24:55] <Frotty> that was all[04:25:04] <Frotty> ok wtf[04:25:11] <Frotty> if I start the app now on android from device[04:25:15][04:25:27] <Frotty> Am I not supposed to start from device at all?[04:25:37] *** Guest98908 has quit IRC[04:25:52] *** joshuafcole has quit IRC[04:26:42] <mobidevelop> Sounds like someone is using statics incorrectly[04:26:46] <TEttinger> I always built apks and installed them because my usb connection is spotty[04:26:49] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[04:26:56] <Frotty> mobidevelop: elaborate?[04:27:00] <Frotty> TEttinger: https://www.dropbox.com/s/78yos73eeumj4gl/2014_10_04_04.26.04.png?dl=0[04:27:06] *** joshuafcole has joined #libgdx[04:28:04] *** mockillo has joined #libgdx[04:28:12] <TEttinger> yeah, Frotty: this could definitely be related to android treating static variables as "not worth keeping around"[04:28:25] <mobidevelop> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26150098/in-game-images-disappear-on-android-device-if-i-run-from-widget-but-not-when-i[04:29:45] <mobidevelop> Actually it is the opposite, Android tends to keep statics around longer than you want[04:30:13] <Frotty> ok, but the bitiotic article doesn#t offer a solution[04:30:20] <Frotty> right now i have all the spires in static vars[04:30:25] <Frotty> since it's only very few[04:30:31] <mobidevelop> Don't use statics[04:30:33] <Frotty> what's the correct way to do it?[04:31:03] *** lukas has quit IRC[04:31:15] <TEttinger> AssetManager[04:31:45] <mobidevelop> Have normal non-static variables[04:31:59] <Frotty> big whoop[04:32:06] <Frotty> but I somehow would need to access that one class[04:32:13] <Frotty> all around the app[04:32:14] <Frotty> how?[04:32:17] <mobidevelop> That's a design problem[04:32:26] <Frotty> bleh[04:32:33] <Frotty> why isn't this garbitch mentioned nowhere[04:33:24] <Frotty> so a singleton wouldnt work as well?[04:35:33] <mobidevelop> It is mentioned lots of places[04:35:48] <Frotty> maybe I wasn't in those places of the wiki[04:36:02] <mobidevelop> Statics (and singletons) work if you manage them correctly[04:36:16] <Frotty> which means?[04:37:00] <mobidevelop> Recreating things when they need to be recreated[04:37:09] <cobolfoo> there is a hashmap that could have same keys all over the place?[04:37:31] <Frotty> mobidevelop: is there any reason you are not more specific?[04:37:55] <mobidevelop> Because it is different for every app[04:37:57] <Frotty> cobolfoo: how does a hashmap matter?[04:38:13] <cobolfoo> I want to store and sort elements by timestamp, but several elements could have the same timestamp[04:38:24] <cobolfoo> a normal hashmap will overwrite the elemetn to keep unique keys[04:38:40] <Frotty> mobidevelop: how can I find out the way I need to handle things in my app[04:39:07] <TEttinger> I've been meaning to switch to assetmanager for this reason[04:39:19] <mobidevelop> AssetManager is a good start[04:39:39] <Frotty> If your game is very simple, and loading resources doesn't take a lot of time you don't want to use the AssetManager[04:39:40] <mobidevelop> So is removing static references to sprites[04:39:44] <Frotty> Which fits to my game[04:39:56] <TEttinger> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Managing-your-assets[04:40:05] <Frotty> I copied the line from that site[04:40:07] *** ishid has joined #libgdx[04:40:07] <Frotty> ..[04:40:08] <TEttinger> oh ok[04:40:17] <Frotty> that is why I decided against it[04:40:21] <mobidevelop> "You don't want to use AssetManager" is a pretty general statement[04:40:22] <Frotty> also several people told me not to use it[04:40:30] <Frotty> (for small projects)[04:40:40] <mobidevelop> I don't use it myself[04:41:02] <mobidevelop> But there is nothing wrong with using it for small projects or large[04:41:31] <Frotty> and what do you use or do instead...?[04:42:02] <mobidevelop> I use statics actually[04:42:05] <TEttinger> yeah, I've been kinda wondering that myself[04:42:11] <Frotty> ..[04:42:19] <TEttinger> so you do the whole mess with re-initializing them?[04:42:57] <mobidevelop> I reinitialize them on every create[04:43:02] *** deepinthewoods2 has joined #libgdx[04:43:25] <Frotty> ok[04:43:31] <TEttinger> so try that, Frotty, if your game stays small it won't be a problem[04:43:32] <Frotty> I can add a simple call to reload textures[04:43:44] <Frotty> just out of the blue[04:43:47] <Frotty> i doubt it will work[04:43:51] <Frotty> 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The excitement! What are you up to?[09:05:37] <nuzz> looking for some advice regarding Dialogs, is it possible to cascade them effectively?[09:05:52] <nuzz> just working on a mini proj for uni[09:05:58] <Psyfire> not familiar with dialogs :\[09:06:14] <Psyfire> that is libGDX dialogs[09:06:38] <nuzz> yep libgdx dialogs[09:07:10] <Psyfire> Feel free to ask your question anyway. 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work[13:43:00] <dermetfan> lordjone: setFillParent(true) maybe - Hi davebaol[13:43:32] <lordjone> dermetfan: yes, already did, the problem is when i zoom out[13:44:16] <dermetfan> lordjone: is the image supposed to zoom at all?[13:44:53] <lordjone> dermetfan: not necessarly, i just need it to cover the entire viewport[13:45:22] <dermetfan> lordjone: you could not put it on the stage, just draw a sprite or textureRegion separately[13:45:58] <dermetfan> lordjone: otherwise maybe setScale() works to revert the zoom[13:46:11] <lordjone> dermetfan: if i can use the tiledDrawable or the Image widget separately i can give it a try[13:49:06] <lordjone> mmm tried with setscale, but i don’t like the effect on the image, so yes the background image needs to zoom as the camera zoom in out[13:55:49] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[13:55:50] <Joozey> thanks dermetfan[13:57:19] <evident> hi everybody... can anybody tell me why in a new project I keep getting the error that Gradle version 1.10 is required, but my current one is 2.0? I already changed the gradle-wrapper.properties to use 1.10-all.zip as distribution URL, but as soon as I save that and retry a gradle sync, I get the old error... and it seems to set back the distribution URL to 2.0...[13:57:25] <evident> I am using Android Studio...[13:58:06] <evident> the weird thing is that it worked on other projects before... I created a test project a few days ago, that uses the same settings, and there it works... but on the new one it doesnt seem to change the gradle version[13:58:34] *** esvee_ has joined #libgdx[13:59:07] *** Guest5948 has quit IRC[13:59:38] *** HunterD has joined #libgdx[14:02:23] *** esvee__ has quit IRC[14:02:54] *** esvee_ has quit IRC[14:03:11] <evident> All I've done is to create a new project and import it as usual into AS... then in build.gradle I changed the classpath 'com.android.tools.build:gradle:0.10+' to classpath 'com.android.tools.build:gradle:0.12+'[14:03:35] <evident> usually then it would build the project... but it doesnt :([14:03:57] <dermetfan> evident: you probably use your local gradle installation instead of actually using the wrapper[14:04:15] <Tomski> evident, try using wrapper 1.11 and android gradle build tools 0.12.0[14:05:27] <dermetfan> make sure to run gradlew.bat (./gradlew on linux) instead of just "gradle" and if you use gradle via an IDE, make sure it uses the wrapper[14:06:01] <evident> ahhh yes that was it[14:06:52] <evident> I had to open the gradle settings and instead of "use default gradle wrapper" I entered the path to the gradle/wrapper/ directory in my project... there i could set the distribtuion URL to 1.10-all.zip and it works fine[14:07:07] <Lecherito> hi all :D[14:07:11] <Tomski> o/[14:07:13] <evident> hi Lecherito[14:07:21] <Lecherito> hi evident[14:07:25] <Lecherito> dat Tomski !!!1[14:08:29] <Lecherito> how's it going[14:09:53] <Tomski> not good anymore[14:13:06] *** qxcb has joined #libgdx[14:13:35] <Lecherito> should I go again? :c[14:13:51] *** Lidjan has quit IRC[14:14:45] <qxcb> Hi all, can anyone tell me if there is a file-chooser widgit in libgdx ? AFAIK there is not but has anyone tried making one?[14:18:42] <[twisti]> https://bitbucket.org/dermetfan/libgdx-utils/wiki/FileChooser[14:18:50] <[twisti]> first hit on google for "libgdx file chooser"[14:23:41] *** Rattus has joined #libgdx[14:24:29] *** quandtum has joined #libgdx[14:25:51] *** Deejay has joined #libgdx[14:27:05] *** scape_ has joined #libgdx[14:27:12] *** slack-bot8 has joined #libgdx[14:28:29] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[14:29:08] <qxcb> is there any reason there's not one in th eprojet itself though?[14:32:38] <[twisti]> havent the foggiest[14:32:54] <Tomski> probs not cross platformy enough[14:33:03] <Joozey> I tried to convert a libgdx project to gradle and everything went to hell. Where is the fix-it-instantly button?[14:33:07] *** derferman has quit IRC[14:33:20] <[twisti]> make new project, copy over code and assets, ???, profit[14:33:29] <Tomski> Joozey, thats me[14:33:51] *** hextileX has joined #libgdx[14:33:53] *** Jpnock2 has joined #libgdx[14:33:58] <Joozey> :P there should be a button for that[14:34:04] *** Tomski is now known as Button[14:34:07] <Button> <[14:34:13] * Joozey presses Button furiously[14:34:20] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[14:34:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Button[14:34:26] <qxcb> ok[14:34:34] *** Button is now known as Tomski[14:34:38] <Tomski> All fixed[14:35:30] *** lordjone has quit IRC[14:37:16] *** Jpnock has quit IRC[14:37:17] *** TheChubu has joined #libgdx[14:38:32] <mobidevelop> That Tomski[14:38:42] *** lukas has quit IRC[14:39:50] *** lordjone has joined #libgdx[14:40:21] *** TheChubu is now known as dustContributor[14:45:40] *** Radzell has quit IRC[14:46:01] <Oebele> hi guys, please help me check if I recall correctly: the parameter 'pointer' passed to the touch event handling methods is the 'number of the finger' and is always 0 for mouse input, right?[14:51:16] *** Flaiker has joined #libgdx[14:55:22] <davebaol> I didn't know of this project https://github.com/aevum/libgdx-cpp[14:58:20] <dustContributor> me neither[14:58:21] <dustContributor> now i know[14:59:08] <dustContributor> now i have to think what will i do with this newfound knowledge[14:59:14] <dustContributor> use it for evil? for good?[14:59:17] *** LordDVG has joined #libgdx[14:59:20] <dustContributor> don't use it at all?[15:00:20] *** abs25 has joined #libgdx[15:00:39] <HunterD> is the cpp port updated to latest version? 1.3.1[15:01:29] <davebaol> don't know HunterD[15:01:53] *** ColaColin has joined #libgdx[15:03:08] *** francisl has joined #libgdx[15:07:58] *** SgtCoDFish has quit IRC[15:09:23] <mobidevelop> No[15:09:49] <mobidevelop> It probably is only updated to 0.9.8[15:11:09] <mobidevelop> And even then I don't think it is a complete port[15:17:21] <davebaol> right, the last commit is 1 year old[15:18:22] <[twisti]> the "and hopefully ios" bit makes me think its probably not terribly complete[15:26:56] *** HunterD has quit IRC[15:27:59] *** kalle_h has joined #libgdx[15:28:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[15:29:26] *** Hronom has joined #libgdx[15:30:00] *** yrk has quit IRC[15:32:45] *** HunterD has joined #libgdx[15:32:53] *** derferman has quit IRC[15:35:06] *** nick-slpn is now known as nick-coden[15:35:14] *** Hronom has quit IRC[15:39:39] *** _ynk has joined #libgdx[15:47:41] *** _ynk has quit IRC[15:54:36] *** deBugger_ has quit IRC[15:54:59] *** xapiens has joined #libgdx[15:57:19] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[15:59:02] *** Sadale has joined #libgdx[16:03:04] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[16:03:07] <hextileX> I get this gradle error: Artifact 'javax.transaction:jta:1.0.1B:jta.jar' not found. But this project is in the mavenCentral() repositiory.[16:03:20] <hextileX> How can I solve this?[16:03:59] <dustContributor> download the lib manually :3[16:04:16] <[twisti]> that doesnt seem like a reasonable solution[16:04:16] <hextileX> I tried (even if I do not like). still not work[16:04:54] *** deBugger has quit IRC[16:05:10] <hextileX> mavenLocal() does also not work[16:05:12] <Tomski> Sure its in central?[16:05:25] <hextileX> http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/javax.transaction/jta/1.0.1B[16:05:39] <Joozey> libgdx64.so... where is that file supposed to be?[16:06:35] <Tomski> bit weird[16:06:50] <Joozey> oh its in gdx-natives.jar[16:07:00] <Tomski> hextileX, 1.1 downloads ok[16:07:07] <Oebele> the parameter 'pointer' passed to the touch event handling methods is the 'number of the finger' and is always 0 for mouse input, right?[16:07:25] <hextileX> http://search.maven.org/#search|ga|1|a%3A%22jta%22[16:07:25] <[twisti]> the -B might indicate that it was a beta artifact thats not available anymore[16:07:35] <Tomski> hextileX, B doesnt even have an artifact[16:07:46] <Oebele> I know the answer is on the wiki, but stangely I couldn't find it anymore[16:07:59] <hextileX> Tomski: But it is a subdependency from another dependecy.[16:08:05] <Tomski> What dependency?[16:08:26] <hextileX> compile "com.cubeia.firebase:firebase-api:1.10.7"[16:08:38] <hextileX> I want to try firebase for multiplayer game[16:08:46] <hextileX> this should be the java client api[16:09:04] <hextileX> I have this as repository:[16:09:05] <hextileX> maven { url "http://m2.cubeia.com/nexus/content/repositories/foss-releases/" }[16:09:07] <hextileX> maven { url "http://m2.cubeia.com/nexus/content/groups/public" }[16:09:39] <Tomski> You'll have to use another version that doesnt reference an artifact that doesnt exist[16:09:48] <hextileX> And I guess that firebase themself wants to have jta[16:10:11] <matthewt> hi gang what's new in the libgdx world[16:10:17] <hextileX> ok. I try to use another firebase api version[16:10:37] <hextileX> Or do you know a better open source multiplayer server with java client api?[16:10:43] <hextileX> maybe firebase is too old[16:11:22] <Tomski> I just use kryonet[16:13:01] <Tomski> Looks like their builds are messed up[16:13:52] <hextileX> Tomski: does kryonet support game romes, lobby, and so on?[16:13:59] <Tomski> If you build them, yes[16:14:12] <hextileX> mhhh. Ok I give them a try[16:14:22] <hextileX> thanks![16:14:27] <Tomski> hextileX, try using 1.10.8-SNAPSHOT for api version[16:15:15] <hextileX> Tomski: still the same error[16:15:33] <hextileX> but no problem. I can switch to nathan software ;.>[16:16:12] <hextileX> firebase would have all funktions for multiplayer game server. But I think I can code this by my one[16:16:45] *** droidboi has joined #libgdx[16:17:58] <Lecherito> a dialog.setPosition(camera.position.x, camera.position.y); shouldn't be kinda in the middle of the screen?[16:18:11] *** kalle_h has quit IRC[16:18:35] <mobidevelop> No[16:19:37] <Lecherito> i dont mean the exact center, but it's on top of the screen[16:20:02] <Lecherito> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74953508/Screenshots/2014-10-04%2016_19_48.png[16:20:12] <hextileX> Tomski: kryonet has a nice documentation. thanks for this tip![16:24:13] <droidboi> I know how to set a vec3 unform (shader.setUniformf(iMouseLoc, someVector3);), but how to set an array of, say, 10 vec3s?[16:24:14] <Joozey> okay this whole gradle android studio libgdx linux combination is ridiculous. make new libgdx project, import in eclipse, export generate gradle files, import in android studio, nothing works. Add libraries, add run configurations, add android facet, add .so files, android version works, desktop does not. Decide to ´sync with gradle´... all library settings gone /[16:24:14] <Joozey> /o[16:24:14] <Joozey> /o\ darnit[16:24:15] <Joozey> Weird errors that nobody else on the internet gets or solutions dont work like libgdx64.so could not be loaded, but the gdx-native.jar is loaded fine. Or APplicationListener not found, while the IDE shows ApplicationListener as found in the gdx libs[16:24:15] <Joozey> ARGH.[16:24:15] <droidboi> Yes Joozey, is puzzling[16:24:15] <droidboi> its[16:24:15] <Joozey> sad thing is that previous month everything worked fine[16:24:15] <Joozey> maven setups also work fine[16:24:15] <Joozey> but then I can´t export .jar files from android studio :([16:24:15] <droidboi> It's not beginner friendly is it[16:24:36] <Joozey> I will never get past beginner with gradle, nobody really knows how that voodoo magic is working[16:26:16] <mobidevelop> O.o that's a pretty weird workflow you got there[16:26:18] <droidboi> I think I started my proj before Gradle - I'm not sure how it builds[16:27:11] <Joozey> All I want is to deploy .jar and .apk files from android studio with libgdx[16:27:16] <mobidevelop> Literally, all it takes is generate gradle project with setup, import into Android Studio.[16:27:29] <Joozey> If I run setup there is no gradle project?[16:28:00] <droidboi> That's not good[16:28:07] <droidboi> That's very very bad[16:28:23] <Joozey> let me try again[16:28:29] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[16:28:30] <mobidevelop> Joozey: then you are not running the gradle setup[16:29:32] <Joozey> there is a gradle setup?[16:29:43] <Joozey> I use gdx-setup-ui.jar[16:29:44] <mobidevelop> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Project-Setup-Gradle[16:30:44] <droidboi> Does gdx-setup setup Gradle?[16:31:08] <Joozey> oh, am I using an old libgdx version? I thought I downloaded the latest one[16:31:43] <droidboi> What does "setup gradle" mean? Install gradle or create gradle directory structure and files?[16:31:51] <Joozey> the latter[16:32:07] <Tomski> droidboi, it sets up a gradle managed project[16:32:15] <Tomski> Using a portable gradle installation[16:32:25] <droidboi> Tomski: Thanks[16:32:43] <droidboi> I don't have gradle install on my box[16:32:50] <Tomski> You dont need it[16:32:55] <Tomski> Because the wrapper gets generated[16:32:56] <droidboi> Excellent[16:32:59] <Tomski> Although you can do it if you wish[16:33:05] *** derferman has quit IRC[16:33:07] <droidboi> indeed[16:35:07] *** Thoast has joined #libgdx[16:35:32] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[16:36:57] *** hextileX has quit IRC[16:38:05] *** dustContributor has quit IRC[16:39:46] *** lukas has quit IRC[16:42:12] *** wreed has quit IRC[16:43:11] <Joozey> Oh my derp I lost 4 hours because I was screwing around with an old libgdx version. Well thanks mobidevelop :)[16:43:55] <droidboi> does the setup loadload libgdx?[16:43:57] <droidboi> download[16:44:11] <Tomski> yes[16:44:27] <Tomski> Unless you select offline mode or you cant access the artificats[16:44:30] <Tomski> artifacts[16:44:44] <droidboi> I don't think that is mentioned explicitly in https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Project-Setup-Gradle[16:44:55] *** zambo has quit IRC[16:47:13] <droidboi> No mention of offline mode[16:47:52] <Tomski> droidboi, it is part of Gradle itself, not the tool[16:48:51] <droidboi> ahh - :o) more behind the scenes voodoo non-Gradlers wouldn't know about[16:49:09] <bhldev> why doesn't actorgesturelistener have a panstop?[16:49:13] <droidboi> Thanks for the heads up Tomski[16:51:08] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[16:54:56] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[16:57:57] *** abs25 has quit IRC[17:01:07] *** rottz has quit IRC[17:01:14] *** abs25_ has joined #libgdx[17:03:53] *** rianos has joined #libgdx[17:04:05] *** absof25 has quit IRC[17:04:41] *** prqtnc has quit IRC[17:05:03] *** flogy has joined #libgdx[17:05:06] *** BlueProtoman has joined #libgdx[17:05:07] *** BlueProtoman is now known as Guest14799[17:06:38] *** rianos has quit IRC[17:09:05] *** xapiens_ has joined #libgdx[17:10:30] *** xapiens has quit IRC[17:10:42] <evident> hi everybody... is there a way to increase the accuracy of a Stage's debug renderer? When using the shape renderer to draw a circle(), it only consists of a few vertices... is there a way to increase it, just so that my debug view looks a bit smoother?[17:12:14] <maximtwo> you dont like hexagons instead of circles?[17:12:58] <maximtwo> such an elitist[17:13:16] <evident> i love hexagons actually :D[17:13:41] <evident> been working on a hexagonal three player chess using libgdx last year :D[17:13:57] <maximtwo> haha nice[17:14:01] *** hextileX has joined #libgdx[17:14:03] <maximtwo> did that game actually work?[17:14:13] <evident> it's just that those debug circles look a bit too rough for me :)[17:14:16] <evident> yeah it did[17:14:28] <evident> I mean it didn't have an AI or so[17:14:32] <maximtwo> how does one play 3 person chess?[17:14:37] <Tomski> evident, you can supply # of segments[17:14:59] <evident> and it wasn't optimized for mobile... but on a desktop, it worked quite nice...[17:15:06] <Tomski> Give it at least 1000000000000000 segments[17:15:12] *** cackling_ladies has quit IRC[17:15:20] *** cackling_ladies has joined #libgdx[17:15:28] <evident> but we should have improved all the calculations, which for three players can get heavy...[17:16:23] <evident> e.g. you are not allowed through a move you want to perform, to put the third player in checkmate by the second player... because then the third player wouldn't have a chance to do anything[17:16:40] <maximtwo> sounds crazy[17:16:52] <maximtwo> what about 4 person chess?[17:17:13] <flogy> what about 8 person chess[17:17:28] <mobidevelop> Should be one person per piece of course[17:17:51] <maximtwo> mmo chess[17:17:53] <maximtwo> hell yeah[17:18:14] <evident> well we designed it to be quite generic... so basically, you could add more than 3 players... and we made the chessboard generic so using the same algorithms, you can also create a normal 2 player chess...[17:19:34] <evident> our major problem is that it wasn't optimized in points of memory usage... we still had quite a bit of temporary allocations etc... we were trying to be too generic in some points... so on a mobile device it was quite unplayable... but it was fun on a desktop[17:20:08] <evident> Tomski: thx for the tip with the segments... didn't see that option in the code... easy solution :)[17:22:12] <lordjone> how to draw a line using a custom widget ? i mean i need a shaperenderer but this means it has to be passed to th custom widget, any better way ?[17:23:06] <maximtwo> Tomski, where to you get access to the ShapeRenderer without extending Stage?[17:24:35] <maximtwo> nvm, i see that Actor has a drawDebug method[17:24:43] <maximtwo> carry on[17:24:43] <evident> :)[17:25:57] <lordjone> maximtwo: yes but it needs a shaperenderer[17:26:11] <maximtwo> the ShapeRendere is a parameter of Actor.drawDebug()[17:27:06] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[17:27:50] <lordjone> yes, but i need the same thing without drawDebug :)[17:28:26] <maximtwo> what are you trying to do?[17:28:45] *** abs25_ has quit IRC[17:28:49] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[17:29:14] <maximtwo> oh nvm, i saw your comment above[17:29:43] <lordjone> need to draw a bezier curve[17:29:44] <maximtwo> it would be nice if you could supply your own ShapeRenderer to Stage[17:29:55] <lordjone> yes it would[17:30:07] <Tomski> maximtwo, way to call me out[17:30:21] <lordjone> or at least access to a common shape renderer from the widgets[17:31:20] <maximtwo> well you could always make it a static variable in your custom Widget class[17:32:07] *** abs25_ has joined #libgdx[17:32:24] <Tomski> Make everything static[17:32:34] <lordjone> maximtwo: i will probably end up passing a ref to a shape renderer[17:32:49] <maximtwo> i'd prefer that way[17:33:13] <maximtwo> i just wanted to bring up statics because Tomski and mobidevelop were bitching about them earlier[17:33:21] *** derferman has quit IRC[17:34:33] *** absof25 has quit IRC[17:35:01] <lordjone> eheheh[17:36:30] <Lecherito> maximtwo: ![17:36:38] <maximtwo> hey milkboy[17:36:45] <maximtwo> how's it going?[17:37:12] <Lecherito> it could be better, but not too bad[17:37:13] <Lecherito> and you?[17:37:23] <maximtwo> same here pretty much[17:37:29] <Lecherito> ha![17:37:40] <Lecherito> trying to change of work[17:37:47] <Lecherito> freaking retarded bosses[17:38:04] <dermetfan> "it's static because it's public"[17:38:05] <maximtwo> that will never change unfortunately[17:38:49] <Lecherito> and trying to show a dialog :D[17:39:09] <maximtwo> dermetfan, who said that?[17:39:27] <maximtwo> i want to shake their hand[17:39:32] <dermetfan> FrogMaster[17:39:34] <dermetfan> he will never be forgotten[17:39:37] <maximtwo> lol[17:39:44] <maximtwo> that fuckin' guy[17:39:56] <maximtwo> immortalized forever[17:39:56] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[17:39:57] <dermetfan> you know him?[17:40:08] <maximtwo> he's kind of a big deal around here[17:40:14] <Tomski> He still comes around[17:40:23] <Tomski> Just under different names[17:40:24] <dermetfan> still? I thought he gave up after 3 days[17:40:27] <Tomski> No[17:40:32] <Tomski> He launched a tirade on the forums[17:40:42] <Tomski> We had to make it valid email only to join[17:40:43] <Lecherito> lol[17:40:48] <maximtwo> hahaha[17:41:03] <dermetfan> have a link? :D[17:41:10] <Tomski> He used email accounts like "TOMSKIISA$£%£$%$% at gmail dot com[17:41:19] <maximtwo> haha[17:41:37] <dermetfan> lol he sure didn't know how to handle the rejection[17:43:05] *** abs25_ has quit IRC[17:47:10] <mobidevelop> noone: why is that Box2D initializer class you made abstract?[17:49:24] *** xapiens_ has quit IRC[17:49:56] *** Mystor_ has joined #libgdx[17:51:01] *** esvee has joined #libgdx[17:51:18] *** abs25 has joined #libgdx[17:51:34] <mobidevelop> Oh gawd, more draw methods in batch :( https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/2411[17:52:11] <Tomski> noooooo :([17:52:14] *** TestingWithLimit has joined #libgdx[17:52:38] *** absof25 has quit IRC[17:52:47] <maximtwo> i can think of atleast 7 more that should be added first[17:52:57] <TestingWithLimit> Hey ! Short question does anybody has a link to getting started guide for libgdx WITHOUT gradle?[17:52:57] <mobidevelop> And 10 that should be removed[17:52:59] <Tomski> ew[17:53:00] <Tomski> ew[17:53:00] <Tomski> ew[17:53:57] <mobidevelop> Nate's going to love the newly added @Override annotations too[17:54:05] <maximtwo> mobidevelop, how about just Batch.draw(int n); that just draws n random things in random locations[17:54:17] <mobidevelop> Seems useful[17:54:24] <maximtwo> nate doesn't like the @override annotation?[17:54:42] <mobidevelop> batch.drawStarField(int numStars)[17:54:52] <maximtwo> yay![17:54:52] <mobidevelop> maximtwo: nope[17:55:01] <maximtwo> that's just silly of him[17:55:37] <mobidevelop> And for variety, batch.drawStarField(int minStars, int maxStars)[17:55:58] <maximtwo> does nate atleast like @underride?[17:56:12] <Lecherito> @Overrated[17:56:14] <mobidevelop> and batch.drawStarField(int numStars, Random random)[17:56:27] <maximtwo> mobidevelop, i think it would be better as a class that has to be passed to the constructor of sprite batch[17:56:56] <maximtwo> public SpriteBatch(StarFieldGenerated cantIgnoreMeSukka)[17:57:04] <mobidevelop> Lol[17:57:38] <kjeldahl> This just in: http://whyjavasucks.com/Blog/5/Java_By_Example/93/Java_Annotations[17:58:10] <kjeldahl> Obviously completely unbiased.[17:58:29] <noone> mobidevelop: why not abstract?[17:58:46] *** xapiens_ has joined #libgdx[17:58:46] <noone> one should not create an instance of it, so I made it abstract[17:58:54] <mobidevelop> It should be final and have a private constructor[17:59:24] <mobidevelop> Nobody should subclass it[17:59:35] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[17:59:40] <maximtwo> is that a challenge?[17:59:51] <noone> hhmmmm okay[18:00:10] <mobidevelop> I said nobody should, not nobody can maximtwo.[18:00:39] <maximtwo> =P[18:00:43] *** HunterD has quit IRC[18:01:14] <mobidevelop> noone: or, be like Bullet and make it not abstract or final with private constructor[18:01:18] *** abs25 has quit IRC[18:01:52] <mobidevelop> That Xoppa[18:01:54] <hextileX> Tomski: does kyronet runs on iOS to?[18:02:12] <noone> I mostly wanted it to not show up when one tries to "new Box2d<ctrl-space>"[18:02:41] <noone> I didn't actually want to secure it against "weird" usage ^^[18:03:00] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[18:03:12] <noone> I made it final now[18:03:19] <mobidevelop> Better to secure it against weirdos like maximtwo[18:03:30] <maximtwo> i was about to go all reflectionfoo on you[18:03:51] <evident> Am I seeing it right that the Arrive Steering Behavior needs a Steerable Object as target? So basically if I want to select a point I want the user to go to, I need to put a steerable object there? Can't I just give it a Vector2?[18:04:27] <mobidevelop> Cool beans thanks noone[18:04:36] <noone> okay, I add a "throw new MaximTwoException()" to the constructor[18:04:54] <mobidevelop> I like it[18:05:12] <Tomski> hextileX, yup[18:05:58] <hextileX> cool. thanks man![18:06:03] <Lecherito> authorNotes.setPosition(camera.position.x - authorNotes.getWidth()/2, camera.position.y - authorNotes.getHeight()/2); shouldnt this place the dialog authorNotes in the middle of the screen?[18:07:02] <noone> evident: I think you are right[18:07:18] <mobidevelop> I want to express my desire to not add any more draw methods on batch[18:07:33] *** xapiens__ has joined #libgdx[18:07:34] <Lecherito> express all the feels[18:08:27] <mobidevelop> How to do so without being negative... Hmm.[18:09:13] *** xapiens_ has quit IRC[18:09:28] *** xapiens__ has quit IRC[18:09:29] <noone> maybe try it with a self-composed song? or a poem?[18:09:43] <mobidevelop> I also don't think by his method needs to be there, why can't you pretransform the rectangle?[18:09:54] *** xapiens has joined #libgdx[18:10:23] *** TestingWithLimit has quit IRC[18:14:27] <mobidevelop> Well too bad, Nate already merged it[18:14:34] <Tomski> ....[18:14:55] <mobidevelop> Good thing we can discuss things before merging[18:15:47] <evident> noone: ahh ok thank you... it seems to make sense though, but not intuitive in the first morment[18:15:47] <evident> i mean intuitive why to have to do it that way but it's alright :)[18:15:47] *** droidboi has quit IRC[18:19:20] *** dermetfan has quit IRC[18:22:11] *** absof25 has quit IRC[18:22:28] *** absof25 has joined #libgdx[18:23:56] *** droidboi has joined #libgdx[18:24:58] *** HunterD has joined #libgdx[18:25:05] *** wreed has quit IRC[18:26:49] *** TheUnkn0wn0ne has joined #libgdx[18:28:31] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[18:29:14] <mobidevelop> TheUnkn0wn0ne: hey, what types of changes are you making related to files?[18:29:45] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> mobidevelop: For that werid android file issue?[18:29:51] <mobidevelop> Yeah[18:30:26] *** droidboi has quit IRC[18:30:40] *** eReS has joined #libgdx[18:30:49] *** Mystor_ has quit IRC[18:30:55] *** Mystor_ has joined #libgdx[18:31:00] *** Guest14799 is now known as BlueProtoman[18:31:05] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> mobidevelop: Right now the changes are in FileHandle, but the tests are failing so I'm not even going to even commit it until the tests pass. I'm altering how external files are created initially[18:31:40] <noone> mobidevelop: is the gdx-tests-android project broken, or is it just me?[18:32:06] <mobidevelop> I don't know, I've not opened it since the gdx-pay crap was added to it[18:32:13] *** abs25_ has joined #libgdx[18:32:17] <mobidevelop> I don't want the additional 8 projects[18:32:35] <mobidevelop> And corresponding dependencies[18:32:49] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> It broke my whole build environment until I updated the Android plugin this morning[18:33:03] <noone> could anyone check it? it says "The container 'Android Dependencies' references non existing library 'D:\Programmierung\gitrepos\libgdx\extensions\gdx-pay\gdx-pay-android-openiab\bin\gdx-pay-android-openiab.jar'[18:33:05] *** derferman has quit IRC[18:33:28] <mobidevelop> Yeah, you need to download and provide that jar[18:33:53] <noone> where do I download that from?[18:34:00] <mobidevelop> No clue really[18:34:09] <mobidevelop> This is why I wanted it a separate extension[18:34:11] *** Mystor__ has joined #libgdx[18:34:14] *** Mystor_ has quit IRC[18:34:53] <noone> that was my first comment to that gdx-pay PR... but it was considered rude and was ignored[18:35:08] <mobidevelop> Yeah, I noticed[18:35:31] *** absof25 has quit IRC[18:35:54] <mobidevelop> It doesn't belong in the core repo, especially considering the third party dependencies[18:36:12] <mobidevelop> And it will only get worse[18:36:17] *** Mystor__ has quit IRC[18:36:29] *** Mystor has joined #libgdx[18:36:49] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[18:37:28] <mobidevelop> Actually looks like the jar is still in the repo I'm the libs directory of the extension project[18:37:42] <mobidevelop> Or not[18:37:51] <mobidevelop> That's a build artifact[18:38:00] <mobidevelop> Should depend on the project, not the jar[18:38:50] *** Xoppa has joined #libgdx[18:38:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[18:39:05] <noone> yeah, that makes more sense[18:39:41] <mobidevelop> I want to file an issue to have gdx-pay moved to a separate tepo[18:39:43] <mobidevelop> Repo[18:40:14] <BlueProtoman> mobidevelop: And the same for all the other LibGDX extensions?[18:40:27] <BlueProtoman> In fact, the tools could even be moved to separate repos...[18:40:44] <noone> bullet and box2d are okay I think[18:40:47] <mobidevelop> At this point I only care about the gdx-pay that has caused me all sorts of headaches[18:41:31] <BlueProtoman> noone: I feel that leaving those in core while sectioning off everything else would be inconsistent.[18:41:39] <BlueProtoman> Why not go for it with both barrels?[18:41:44] *** lukas has quit IRC[18:42:32] *** Mystor___ has joined #libgdx[18:42:32] *** Mystor has quit IRC[18:42:33] <noone> okay, bullet and box2d should probably be the last ones to be removed[18:42:46] <mobidevelop> The problem with moving things with long histories is that the history is lost[18:43:26] <mobidevelop> Whether that's actually a problem or not, I don't know but it is something to consider.[18:44:03] <noone> well, it's not completely lost, one can still find it in the core repo commits[18:44:14] <noone> not that comfortable though[18:45:19] <BlueProtoman> You already have a 1GB repo.[18:45:23] <mobidevelop> Aside from that, the only argument I have for keeping bullet and box2d is their jnigen dependency more tightly couples them to core[18:45:44] <mobidevelop> But that's probably not a big deal[18:46:47] <BlueProtoman> You'd have to make the same case for gdx-controllers, too.[18:46:50] <BlueProtoman> And gdx-freetype[18:46:53] <Tomski> noone, to be fair it was before the project turned into a monster[18:46:54] <mobidevelop> Right[18:47:04] <Tomski> And it wasnt factually correct[18:47:24] <noone> what wasn't correct?[18:47:33] <mobidevelop> But free type and controllers aren't exactly large[18:47:33] <Tomski> That extensions dont belong in core[18:47:55] <Tomski> according to the libdgx devs[18:48:03] <BlueProtoman> Would gdx-tools still be one repo, or would all of the tools each be put into their own repo?[18:48:17] <BlueProtoman> (E.g Hiero, the two particle editors, the texture packer, etc.)[18:48:24] <noone> I've discussed it so much with you and mobidevelop, and for me it sounded like you do not want any new extensions in the core repo[18:48:55] <Tomski> noone, I dont think extensions as big as gdx-ai or the now much larger gdx-pay are suitable[18:48:58] <mobidevelop> BlueProtoman: don't know, probably they'd stick together[18:49:00] *** Jonas__ has quit IRC[18:49:52] <noone> Tomski: gdx-ai is "big"?[18:50:03] <Tomski> the scope of ai is huge[18:50:27] <noone> ah that's what you mean[18:50:40] *** shadowrunner has joined #libgdx[18:51:37] *** eReS has quit IRC[18:51:59] <Lecherito> can't dialogs be in a negative Y axis position?[18:52:09] *** Mystor___ has quit IRC[18:52:29] <noone> Lecherito: I think there's a flag to turn that off[18:52:37] <mobidevelop> Initially, gdx-pay had its tentacles in the Android backend but I think that has since changes so could probably be moved.[18:52:57] *** qxcb has quit IRC[18:54:41] <mobidevelop> I'd like to do so before we do a libgdx release though[18:56:28] *** GUIpsp has joined #libgdx[18:56:28] *** shadowrunner has quit IRC[18:56:37] *** shadowrunner has joined #libgdx[18:56:52] <noone> do you think it will be done that quickly?[18:57:36] *** Getterac7 has quit IRC[18:57:50] <mobidevelop> Moving it? Or a release?[18:58:06] *** baseball435 has joined #libgdx[18:58:17] *** dajos7 has joined #libgdx[18:58:17] <mobidevelop> I doubt I can convince people we should move it sooner than a release, unfortunately.[18:58:28] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> I'm starting to grow more and more sick of OEMs breaking things that should not have been touched in the first place[18:58:33] *** dajos7 has quit IRC[18:58:34] *** iveldesigns has joined #libgdx[18:59:01] <mobidevelop> Lol[18:59:03] <noone> "Unparsed aapt error(s)! Check the console for output." what does that mean?[18:59:13] <mobidevelop> Welcome to my world TheUnkn0wn0ne[18:59:29] <Lecherito> what's an OEM?[19:00:00] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> Lecherito: They're basically device manufactures, Dell and HP, Sony, Samsung, Apple[19:00:21] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> I'm referring to the OEMs that alter the Android apis internally and causes headaches for developers[19:00:22] <noone> doing a release with gdx-pay and then immediately removing it with the next release seems somehow... unprofessional[19:00:24] *** esvee_ has joined #libgdx[19:00:34] <mobidevelop> I know noone[19:00:34] <Lecherito> oh, yeah[19:00:52] *** baseball435_ has joined #libgdx[19:01:16] <baseball435_> I am trying to load a .obj file which also has a .mtl file in the same directory. But for some reason the .mtl is not getting applied to the .obj. Can anyone tell me why this is[19:02:13] *** baseball435 has quit IRC[19:02:23] *** baseball435_ has quit IRC[19:03:14] *** baseball435 has joined #libgdx[19:03:16] <baseball435> Can anyone answer that for me?[19:03:54] <noone> you might ping Xoppa[19:04:12] <mobidevelop> Waiting for Xoppa to say "don't use obj"[19:04:19] <baseball435> ok ok i converted to g3db[19:04:21] <noone> :D[19:04:22] <baseball435> still no luck[19:04:57] <baseball435> When i convert to g3db the model becomes visible but the mtl still doesn't color it or anything[19:05:08] <baseball435> when i convert to g3db in the command line to i have to specify to load the .mtl as well or something?[19:05:27] <baseball435> do i *[19:05:39] *** esvee has quit IRC[19:06:21] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> Alright so my changes broke the tests, so I've restarted with the lastest master. I'm going to pull a plan b, which is override the methods in the android implementation and workaround the issue there.[19:06:40] *** TheUnkn0wn0ne is now known as Unkn0wn0ne|tinke[19:06:45] *** Unkn0wn0ne|tinke is now known as Unkn0wn0ne|busy[19:06:51] <noone> mobidevelop: when you've created an issue for gdx-pay, tell me and I will support it... not that anyone cares about my opinion, but still :D[19:07:07] <mobidevelop> Lol, OK.[19:08:03] <noone> I wanna run my android tests again :([19:08:22] <mobidevelop> Seems like a reasonable desire[19:08:57] <Tomski> noone, you still cant run them?[19:09:34] *** baseball435 has quit IRC[19:09:39] <noone> no, I've removed that .jar dependency, but it still depends on the other gdx-pay projects, and those are also broken, lol[19:10:20] *** suexec has quit IRC[19:10:22] <noone> no idea what an "Unparsed Aapt Error" is[19:12:31] <noone> hmmm, seems to be an eclipse bug... -.-[19:13:28] <Unkn0wn0ne|busy> I think I figured out the issue. :D[19:13:30] <Tomski> I dont have a problem running the tests[19:13:39] <Tomski> hmmm[19:17:12] *** suexec has joined #libgdx[19:17:17] <noone> okay, cleaning the gdx-pay projects worked[19:17:41] <noone> I'll quickly make a PR to remove the .jar dependency[19:17:52] <noone> it depends on the corresponding project anyway[19:18:54] <mobidevelop> I actually don't see a jar dependency[19:19:15] <noone> it's an android library[19:19:21] *** Jonas__ has joined #libgdx[19:19:28] <mobidevelop> In which project?[19:19:34] <noone> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/tests/gdx-tests-android/project.properties#L16[19:19:56] *** SgtCoDFish has joined #libgdx[19:20:05] <mobidevelop> Ah, yeah, that's ok.[19:21:26] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[19:21:48] *** hextileX has quit IRC[19:24:59] <noone> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/2413/files[19:25:22] <noone> the slashes have been changed as well... is that a problem?[19:25:22] <mobidevelop> There isn't actually a jar referenced by that[19:25:57] <iveldesigns> Hi everyone. Does anyone have some thoughts on the addListener, and subsequent pooling issue that I'm doing here? http://www.badlogicgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16662[19:26:34] <mobidevelop> Technically, that project is an Android library, and should be referenced as such[19:26:56] <mobidevelop> Without your change it builds for me[19:26:57] *** Sandm4n has joined #libgdx[19:27:06] <noone> hhhmmm[19:28:03] <noone> I just pulled in the changes, noticed that I need the gdx-pay projects in eclipse, imported them and then had that issue[19:28:11] <mobidevelop> The reason it needs to be an android library reference is for the manifest merge[19:28:27] *** LudziE12 has joined #libgdx[19:28:38] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[19:28:55] <noone> why does it run for you and not for me?[19:29:03] <mobidevelop> Beats me[19:29:35] <noone> I'll try to undo that change and clean/reimport the projects[19:29:48] <Tomski> Fine for me too, what errors?[19:30:13] *** flogy has quit IRC[19:30:15] <noone> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/pull/2413[19:30:27] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[19:30:52] *** madmenyo has joined #libgdx[19:30:52] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[19:31:25] <mobidevelop> I suspect a clean alone would have been enough[19:31:47] <LudziE12> mobidevelop, what is causing black color (texture is clear inside)?[19:31:47] <LudziE12> https://db.tt/nbCWH1yP[19:31:54] *** mattdesl has joined #libgdx[19:32:19] <mobidevelop> I wish that the robovm stuff wouldn't cause errors in eclipse for me (on Windows only)[19:32:21] *** baseball435 has joined #libgdx[19:32:26] <baseball435> Anyone know how to set the ModelMaterial of a Model?[19:32:35] <LudziE12> One vertex look like that: floats = new float[]{x, y, z, colorR, colorG, colorB, colorA, normalX, normalY, normalZ, u, v};[19:32:36] <Tomski> Im error free on windows[19:32:50] <Tomski> :/[19:32:58] <mobidevelop> I probably need to update something[19:33:05] <baseball435> Anyone know how to set the ModelMaterial of a Model? Or just load a .mtl to a .g3db[19:33:06] *** derferman has quit IRC[19:33:57] *** ruben01 has joined #libgdx[19:33:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ruben01[19:34:01] <mobidevelop> All better, eclipse hates me and makes me refresh every folder separately[19:34:04] <baseball435> Because no matter how hard I try I can not get a .mtl to load to a .obj or .g3db[19:35:39] <noone> mobidevelop: when you find the solution, tell me, I have the same problem[19:36:10] <lordjone> i can has draggable beziers! :D[19:36:11] <mobidevelop> Tomski do we need to have the robovm plugin in eclipse even on windows?[19:36:17] <noone> I don't even have any apple device to run those projects, but the red crosses are buggering me D:[19:36:40] <lordjone> Xoppa: Yo![19:36:42] <Tomski> mobidevelop, nop[19:36:46] <Tomski> Not like you could run it anyway[19:36:50] *** Symyon has quit IRC[19:37:41] <mobidevelop> I know[19:38:06] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[19:38:08] <mobidevelop> But eclipse is complaining about things[19:38:19] <Tomski> resource dirs for gdx-pay is complaining[19:38:32] *** ksclarke has joined #libgdx[19:38:37] <mobidevelop> Saying that Object.class is referenced from yada yada[19:38:48] <Tomski> in backend?[19:38:52] <Tomski> Or the tests?[19:38:59] <mobidevelop> Tests I think[19:39:08] <Tomski> I had to manualy link up the jars for the tests[19:39:08] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[19:39:19] <mobidevelop> Ah ok[19:39:28] <mobidevelop> We should shore that up[19:39:54] <Tomski> It just has two empty persisted containers[19:40:20] <Tomski> So that resolves itself when you have the plugin I assume[19:41:17] <gentlemandroid> baseball435, If you just want to access the Model's materials there's an array field for them[19:41:31] <iveldesigns> If you have an Actor that when clicked, opens a menu, then clicking a button to do some, say, move to a new location, how would you go about capturing that XY and keeping track of the Actor you need to move?[19:41:47] *** irbrad has joined #libgdx[19:41:48] <baseball435> I know the gentlemandroid but does not contain model materials[19:41:50] <baseball435> only materials[19:42:32] *** lukas has quit IRC[19:42:58] <gentlemandroid> Hmm, I don't know what those are[19:44:42] <gentlemandroid> Why do you want to access that? Looks like that's just part of loading a model[19:46:45] <baseball435> Well when i try and load a g3db with the assetmanager it doesnt load the .mtl[19:47:05] <baseball435> in blender i have it so that certain parts of the object are color certain colors but the object only shows up gray in the game[19:47:12] <baseball435> so it's not loading the .mtl info and i have no idea why[19:47:16] <mobidevelop> Tomski, having the plugin fixes the build errors for robovm tests[19:47:50] <Tomski> mobidevelop, plugins smell[19:48:51] <gentlemandroid> I'm pretty sure the materials are contained in the g3db file[19:48:57] <Tomski> Oh dear, I think that static thread is gaining momentum[19:48:58] <mobidevelop> Yeah, and actually it results in other errors when cleaning[19:49:24] <mobidevelop> Will just close the robovm tests like I usually do[19:49:28] <Tomski> lol[19:49:54] <Tomski> Its the first time I've had everything open in eclipse with no errors[19:50:43] <Xoppa> lordjone, yo![19:50:46] <mobidevelop> Anyway, I said my piece on statics.[19:51:00] <Tomski> Best advice[19:51:10] <lordjone> Xoppa: how is going ? just started a new tool, maybe it could be used as shader editor[19:51:34] *** baseball435 has quit IRC[19:51:48] <Xoppa> ow nice, how does it work? can you show something?[19:52:07] <lordjone> it’s a generic node editor tool, i need it for work so if i came up with something good i will share it[19:52:33] *** nick-coden is now known as nick-farmer[19:53:05] <lordjone> just started today, playing with nodes connections now and bezier curves, i’m testing touchup events on input ports now, i guess it could be done using custom changedevents[19:56:10] <mobidevelop> Here you go noone... https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/issues/2414[19:56:17] *** deBugger has quit IRC[19:56:54] <Lecherito> Tomski: fake, eclipse with no errors?[19:57:05] <Tomski> Lecherito, no youre fake[19:57:13] <Lecherito> why[19:57:29] <Tomski> Its secretly IDEA[19:57:31] <Tomski> shhhh[19:57:33] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[19:58:38] <LudziE12> Ok, got it, forget to add BlendingAttribute: https://db.tt/kFk1mdAS[19:58:45] *** Unkn0wn0ne|busy is now known as TheUnkn0wn0ne[19:58:56] <Xoppa> lordjone, sounds great, let me know how it goes[19:59:18] <Xoppa> i think i have a test on that which might be of interest, let me check[19:59:39] <lordjone> Xoppa: sure, i ll ask you if i have doubts about the scene2d events[20:01:05] *** shadowrunner has quit IRC[20:01:09] <mobidevelop> TheUnkn0wn0ne: needs more retries[20:01:17] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[20:01:20] <gentlemandroid> Xoppa, how would one use a cubemap with the default shader?[20:01:42] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[20:01:44] <gentlemandroid> I got it working with that shader you posted but that doesn't do multiple lights[20:02:39] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> mobidevelop: Haha, I'm throwing things at wall and seeing what sticks. Although apparently the external storage is being limited heavily in newer version of Android. I don't want to migrate to the new APIs because they won't be backwards-compatiable with older libGDX apps that are upgrading[20:03:32] <mobidevelop> Indeed, in KitKat and higher, you cannot write to the external storage outside of designated areas.[20:03:52] <mobidevelop> The default we use today is outside those areas[20:04:11] <Xoppa> lordjone, i'm afraid that test is not on this computer, here's a video showing it though http://blog.xoppa.com/wp-content/uploads/javaw-2013-10-01-23-02-21-33.avi[20:04:29] <lordjone> Xoppa: let me see[20:04:34] <mobidevelop> We are probably going to have to use the correct way and only write to out apps designated area[20:04:41] <mobidevelop> *our[20:04:47] <Xoppa> gentlemandroid, the default shader doesn't support cubemaps by default, you'd have to modify the shader to support it[20:06:01] <lordjone> Xoppa: cool, did the connection with ports work or they were connected by code ?[20:06:23] <TheUnkn0wn0ne> mobidevelop: Should we keep the legacy behavior for apps running on < 4.4 or should we totally switch it over?[20:06:39] <Xoppa> lordjone, iirc it was all set in code[20:06:39] *** Azazel has joined #libgdx[20:07:30] <lordjone> Xoppa: k, cause im trying to solve the problem of receving a touch up event on a different widget from the one where the touch did happen[20:07:50] <mobidevelop> TheUnkn0wn0ne: not sure, it actually only affects devices with an external sdcard (as opposed to an non-removable external storage, like Nexus devices)[20:08:03] <Azazel> I have an excelent idea that would improve thi libgdx site immensely[20:08:14] *** deBugger has quit IRC[20:08:15] *** Oonej has joined #libgdx[20:08:39] <Azazel> we could have the site tell us which is the latest version of libgdx without having to search through the whole site[20:08:46] <Oonej> Hello strangers. Question - is there a way to have a table, with several nested tables to hide/show?[20:09:19] <Tomski> Azazel, there is a PR on the site[20:09:27] *** deBugger has joined #libgdx[20:09:28] <Xoppa> lordjone, i'd say that you could use the parent for that and invoke it manually (or separate the logic, which is probably cleaner)[20:09:34] <Tomski> mobidevelop, would have to review it and build the site :)[20:09:34] <Azazel> what's a PR?[20:10:00] <mobidevelop> Build all the things always[20:10:32] <lordjone> Xoppa: you mean fire another event on touchup from the input listener ? cause it’s what i’m trying to do now[20:10:37] *** shadowrunner has joined #libgdx[20:11:38] <Tomski> Gotta dash[20:11:52] <Xoppa> i mean that events are called from child to parent until one of them returns true (at least i assume that, i'm not sure)[20:12:25] *** Sandm4n has quit IRC[20:12:51] <Azazel> oh it's in the channel topic[20:12:54] <Azazel> brillian[20:12:55] <Azazel> t[20:13:14] <Oonej> Anyone know how to have several nested tables (that overlap) to hide / show properly? I can't figure it out :([20:13:22] <Azazel> however I still couldn't find the information on the site[20:14:01] <Oonej> oh stack.. i found it!!! nm :D[20:15:02] <mobidevelop> Azazel: Tomski was saying there is a pending pull request to add version information to the site[20:15:19] <lordjone> Xoppa: i’m trying to fire an event from a widget to one of its siblings, is that possible ?[20:16:09] <Xoppa> i don't think so[20:16:25] <mobidevelop> Create the event then call the fire method on said sibling[20:16:34] <Azazel> mobidevelop: thanks. I would never have guessed that that's what "PR" means[20:16:47] *** tom992 has joined #libgdx[20:17:42] <lordjone> mobidevelop: i don’t know the sibling, it could be any widget[20:18:01] <lordjone> mobidevelop: do you mean i have to do an hit test to get the deepest widget on the release point ?[20:18:15] *** SgtCoDFish has quit IRC[20:18:48] <tom992> this is little bit of problem from box2d but anyway i have problem to solve , stick body to another body with defined force ,so not pernamently , any ideas ?[20:19:01] <mobidevelop> Well, you could do a getParent() then getChildren()[20:19:22] <gentlemandroid> Xoppa, That wasn't so hard, thanks for the help[20:19:28] <Xoppa> if you don't know the sibling then that might not be the best place to call it, instead place the logic in a separate class[20:19:30] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[20:19:56] <Xoppa> gentlemandroid, screenshots or it didnt happen[20:20:11] <lordjone> mobidevelop: it works! thanks[20:20:34] <lordjone> just did an hit test on the touchup event and fire the event on the sibling[20:21:44] *** Sadale has quit IRC[20:22:57] *** Qowface has joined #libgdx[20:23:02] <mobidevelop> lordjone, can't the sibling just listen to events fired by the actor it is concerned with? Or is there no such relationship?[20:24:01] <lordjone> no it can’t because in my case there will be many unreleated siblings, it’s not a specific event on the 2 actors, but it’s a relation among 2 of many actors[20:24:05] *** derferman has quit IRC[20:24:14] <mobidevelop> I see[20:24:28] <lordjone> it’s a connection between an input port and an output port of different nodes[20:24:39] *** xapiens_ has joined #libgdx[20:25:01] *** xapiens has quit IRC[20:25:46] <mobidevelop> So the input port cares about the output port of the previous node right? So why doesn't it listen to that instead of the other way around (or am I not understanding)?[20:27:18] <lordjone> an input port of a generic node can listen to any event of CreateConnection fired on it from any output port of another generic node[20:28:01] <gentlemandroid> Xoppa, You asked for it! http://imgur.com/fu3HjHc[20:28:21] <lordjone> so it can’t listen for a specific event from a known actor, but it has to listen to any event of connection request by any other widget, if you know a better way i want to know it mobidevelop[20:28:37] <Xoppa> very cool gentlemandroid[20:28:37] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[20:29:06] <mobidevelop> lordjone: I'd just use the bubbling nature of events[20:29:26] <mobidevelop> Have the nodes listen at the top level and decide if they care[20:30:01] <gentlemandroid> tom992, There's a WeldJoint in box2d that sounds about right for you[20:30:21] <mobidevelop> The node firing the event should not be responsible for finding other nodes that may or may not care about it[20:30:25] <Azazel> what's with the GdxTest clasS?[20:30:28] <lordjone> mobidevelop: exactly how ? cause i have an input listener now on a simple button which deals with the creation of the bezierWidget and fires the event[20:31:53] <mobidevelop> Fires what event? Some custom event?[20:32:45] *** deBugger_ has joined #libgdx[20:32:48] *** derferman has quit IRC[20:33:13] <lordjone> yes a CreateConnectionEvent which is a subclass of ChangedEvent[20:33:56] <mobidevelop> If the button calls fire with that event, it will bubble through its hierarchy. So if other nodes listen at say the stage level, they'd get notified of all those events[20:34:02] <Azazel> honestly, I'm looking at the source of the GdxTest class, and I don't see the point of it. all it does is it extends InputAdapter and implements ApplicationListener[20:34:15] <gentlemandroid> It's a base class[20:34:25] <mobidevelop> That's the point of it[20:34:54] <Azazel> and it's used for... what? unit testing?[20:34:55] <[twisti]> Azazel: if you use eclipse, select the class name and press alt-shift-g[20:35:02] <Azazel> I don't[20:35:15] <gentlemandroid> Then do![20:35:22] <mobidevelop> Lol[20:35:32] <Azazel> I use Android Studio[20:35:37] <Azazel> because it's an IDE[20:35:38] <lordjone> mobidevelop: mmm, so i should add an event listener on the other port and fire the event from the input listener[20:35:43] <Azazel> that has "Android" in the name[20:35:43] <lordjone> mobidevelop: let me try[20:35:49] *** deBugger has quit IRC[20:36:04] <mobidevelop> Before we removed gles 1, Gdx test had some additional methods[20:36:21] <[twisti]> isnt android studio eclipse ?[20:36:23] <tom992> gentleman , i know about weldjoint but problem is that is quite pernament attraction , i need stick two bodies specified force , now looking on mousejoint ,still dont know[20:36:32] <Azazel> no[20:36:33] <mobidevelop> Android Studio is Idea[20:36:37] <Azazel> android studio is intellij[20:36:51] <gentlemandroid> I like to use Eclipse and learn slowly over years how to use it, like how [twisti] just said press alt-shift-g there[20:36:55] <[twisti]> oh its the new one[20:37:09] <[twisti]> keyboard shortcuts are fun[20:37:24] <[twisti]> im sure intellij has something similar[20:37:25] <Azazel> I used Eclipse for all my java projects at school, I thought I'd try something new[20:37:37] <Azazel> so I'm about to try out this thing https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/tests/gdx-tests/src/com/badlogic/gdx/tests/ViewportTest1.java[20:37:42] <gentlemandroid> I like to learn them like I'm playing a video game, and random npcs (that's you) tell me how to perform new moves[20:37:43] <Azazel> just learning viewports[20:37:45] <gentlemandroid> It's an adventure![20:38:02] <[twisti]> cool way to look at it[20:38:11] <Azazel> I can just get rid of the GdxTest thing then, right?[20:38:19] <mobidevelop> Azazel: when we had gles 1, GdxTest defined a method to declare whether gles 2 was required[20:38:31] <mobidevelop> You don't need it for anything you do[20:38:37] <Azazel> wtf is gles[20:38:50] <gentlemandroid> A sort of fine lubricant I believe[20:38:51] <mobidevelop> OpenGL ES[20:38:58] <[twisti]> gl for embedded systems (like cell phones)[20:39:07] <Azazel> neat-oh[20:39:16] <Azazel> that's what I like about this channel[20:39:22] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[20:39:22] <Azazel> each time Iearn something new[20:39:26] <[twisti]> its what your stuff is going to be in if you use libgdx[20:40:10] <gentlemandroid> It's opengl minus all the neat stuff from the last 15 years[20:40:18] <mobidevelop> Lol[20:40:43] <Azazel> so that's why all the libdx games look like they're from 1998 :D[20:40:51] <mobidevelop> OpenGL ExtraShitty[20:43:12] <Azazel> bahahaha[20:43:29] <Azazel> I just insulted everyone on this channel with a single comment[20:43:32] *** ShooBit has joined #libgdx[20:43:35] <Azazel> imma get crucified[20:43:45] <Azazel> I'm wondering[20:43:45] *** lukas has quit IRC[20:43:49] *** Oebele has quit IRC[20:44:06] <Azazel> ....[20:44:13] <gentlemandroid> Joke's on you, I've never managed to release a game![20:44:23] <Azazel> nope, Jesus is not a valid nickname[20:44:28] *** Azazel is now known as lukas[20:44:36] <mobidevelop> There are some games made with libgdx that look better than some 1998 games.[20:44:37] <lukas> wait waht[20:44:41] *** lukas is now known as Azazel[20:44:49] *** Azazel is now known as mobildevelop[20:44:54] <mobildevelop> oops[20:44:57] *** mobildevelop is now known as Azazel[20:45:10] <Azazel> I'm trying to change my nick to one that's already taken[20:45:19] <Azazel> to see what kind of message I get[20:45:33] <Azazel> but I keep either changing to people who just quit or making typos :D[20:45:53] <mobidevelop> O.o[20:45:59] <noone> Xoppa: https://github.com/xoppa/world/blob/master/src/com/xoppa/android/misc/RadialSprite.java thanks a lot for that :D[20:46:08] <Xoppa> yw[20:46:44] <mobidevelop> RadialSprite all the things[20:47:20] *** Oebele has joined #libgdx[20:47:25] <mobidevelop> What other gems is Xoppa hiding in there?[20:48:52] <gentlemandroid> What does that do?[20:49:06] <Azazel> it rains down awesome from the sky[20:49:13] <Xoppa> most of it is over a year old, i don't think there's much useful in there. although the radialsprite and chasecamera seem to be used regurly[20:49:26] <Xoppa> *regularly[20:49:38] <Azazel> I like regurly better[20:50:09] <noone> RadialSprite can be used for a circular progress bar for example[20:50:32] <gentlemandroid> Oh I see, neat[20:51:05] <gentlemandroid> I would call it a PacmanSprite then[20:51:08] <gentlemandroid> But that's just me[20:51:27] <noone> you'd also call yourself gentlemandroid[20:52:06] * noone likes that name.[20:52:10] <gentlemandroid> Not around my mother though[20:52:20] <noone> I missed it, I can finally do "noone" jokes again[20:53:41] *** gentlemandroid is now known as ABagOfFeralCats[20:53:50] * ABagOfFeralCats can also play this game[20:55:42] <noone> =D[20:56:03] <ABagOfFeralCats> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkW5IGBEfwY[20:56:58] *** Jack_ has quit IRC[20:59:56] *** jacob__ has joined #libgdx[21:00:02] *** jacob__ has quit IRC[21:00:18] *** shadowrunner has quit IRC[21:00:32] *** Fish__ has joined #libgdx[21:00:38] <Fish__> hello?[21:02:46] <Ashiren> ohayo[21:02:56] <mobidevelop> hello?[21:05:56] <Azazel> Ashiren: nihonjin?[21:06:10] *** Fish__ has quit IRC[21:06:52] <Ashiren> nope. nyoro~n[21:07:52] <Azazel> thought so :)[21:08:20] *** Fish__ has joined #libgdx[21:08:35] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[21:08:42] <Ashiren> so, how may we help you[21:10:00] *** HunterD has quit IRC[21:15:13] *** blomman has joined #libgdx[21:18:11] *** wreed has quit IRC[21:18:51] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[21:19:08] <Fish__> im having an error importing my libgdx project into eclipse[21:19:18] <Fish__> *gradle projedct[21:19:22] <Fish__> *project[21:19:41] <Fish__> im useing gdx-setup.jar[21:20:27] *** nexsoftware has joined #libgdx[21:20:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o nexsoftware[21:20:29] <Fish__> but when i 'Build Model' i get this popup error...[21:20:42] <Fish__> "Error in runnable 'Creating Gradle model' org.eclipse.osgi.internal.framework.EquinoxConfiguration$1 See error log for details"[21:24:32] <noone> Fish__: did you try http://pixelscientists.com/blog/posts/error-in-runnable-creating-gradle-model ?[21:28:33] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[21:28:44] <Fish__> noone: yes i have. by default its 'org.gradle.jvmargs=-Xms128m -Xmx512m' and i changed it to what they recommended but the error still exists[21:33:30] *** derferman has quit IRC[21:36:33] *** wreed has quit IRC[21:39:00] *** Fish__ has quit IRC[21:42:07] <bhldev> hey can someone outline the pros and cons of using tween engine versus the built in libgdx actions[21:42:24] *** Chumper has joined #libgdx[21:42:28] <bhldev> the libgdx actions seem sufficient for my purposes[21:43:31] <Ashiren> then do the actions[21:44:02] <Chumper> hey guys, i am currently trying to build menus with the scene2d ui package. I dont want to use any fancy 9 patch or something like that, i just want my button to have a white background. However, i cant find a way to make a color to a drawable[21:44:17] <Chumper> is there any way i can set the background of the button to white?[21:45:13] <Azazel> Chumper: are you using a skin?[21:45:26] <Chumper> yes, at the moment the default test skin[21:46:00] <Azazel> well then unless I'm mistaken, your button's background will be the image defined in the skin as button background[21:46:17] <Chumper> i tried to set the down up and so on in the skin to nothing but then the apps crashes,[21:46:47] <Azazel> down, up?[21:47:11] <Chumper> ah, ok, but i can set it to just a color so that works:[21:47:11] <Chumper> com.badlogic.gdx.scenes.scene2d.ui.TextButton$TextButtonStyle: {[21:47:12] <Chumper> default: { down: white, up: white, font: default-font, fontColor: white },[21:47:12] <Chumper> toggle: { down: default-round-down, up: default-round, checked: default-round-down, font: default-font, fontColor: white, downFontColor: red }[21:47:12] <Chumper> },[21:47:16] <Azazel> oh I see[21:47:35] <Azazel> my guess is you have to have a value there[21:47:45] *** irbrad has left #libgdx[21:48:01] <Azazel> why don't you edit the uiskin.png so the button picture is just plain white[21:48:07] <Chumper> yeah, obviously, but i didnt think about to just set it to white[21:48:47] <Chumper> if i want to change it to another color later it is much more work than just set the string ;)[21:48:54] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[21:49:27] <Azazel> using a skin is generally not going to make changing colors easy[21:49:31] <Chumper> i want to achieve some kind of metro style in my app, thats why i dont need any fancy button styles. BUt as i just found out, settint the color in the skin is working fine[21:49:50] <Chumper> why not?[21:50:10] *** LtKernel has joined #libgdx[21:50:19] <Azazel> because the skin defines a picture, and that picture is then used by every button that uses the skin[21:51:10] <Chumper> yeah, that makes sense but is not a problem in my case[21:51:20] <Chumper> i just dont want to use a picture in the skin but a color[21:51:46] <Azazel> if you want a button that changes colors, I'd just use a custom 9patch, with a plain white picture, and then set the background color for the patch as you need. that's what I need[21:52:06] <Azazel> if you don't want to use a picture in the skin, then don't use a skin[21:52:35] <Chumper> ah, ok, i understand[21:52:50] <Chumper> so i can also set a color in a nine patch?[21:53:07] *** blomman has quit IRC[21:53:12] <Azazel> ya hang on, I'll look at some of my older code[21:54:00] <Azazel> yes, you can just do patch.setColor()[21:54:10] <Chumper> ok, perfect. tinting a nine patch would also be a solution to my problem[21:54:16] <Azazel> but make sure the picture you use for the patch is white[21:54:41] <Azazel> because otherwise the resulting color will be a blend of the color you set and the color of the 9patch picture[21:54:44] <Chumper> yeah, i need to experiment a little bit with that to make sure i understand the tinting rules[21:55:22] <Chumper> ah, ok, just answered my question[21:55:30] <Chumper> thanks i will look into this direction[21:56:22] <Azazel> no prob[21:58:14] *** vestu has quit IRC[22:03:38] *** sllide has quit IRC[22:03:52] <Azazel> is it just me, or is XML actually more readable than JSON?[22:04:48] *** TEttinger has joined #libgdx[22:06:22] *** sllide has joined #libgdx[22:17:07] *** estar has joined #libgdx[22:17:18] <noone> it should be pretty much the same[22:17:25] *** tom992 has quit IRC[22:17:33] <noone> but XML might take up to 30% more space[22:17:51] *** estar has quit IRC[22:17:54] *** estar_ has joined #libgdx[22:20:31] *** Keniyal_ has joined #libgdx[22:20:38] <Chumper> xml has handy autocompletions if it is correctly defined[22:21:54] <Azazel> I'm not saying it's not less wordy than XML[22:22:04] <Azazel> I'm just saying to me it seems less readable[22:23:28] <noone> I think you are just more used to xml[22:23:53] <noone> if JSON is correctly formatted, it's pretty easy to read, just like xml[22:23:57] *** Keniyal has quit IRC[22:24:02] <Azazel> I think you may be right[22:25:32] <TEttinger> I don't like the duplication of tags in XML, seems like a waste[22:25:56] <noone> it IS a waste[22:26:09] <TEttinger> <sometag><somevalue>Uh-oh</somevalue></sometag>[22:26:14] *** madmenyo has quit IRC[22:26:39] *** madmenyo has joined #libgdx[22:28:38] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[22:30:28] *** esvee__ has joined #libgdx[22:30:50] *** menyo has joined #libgdx[22:30:57] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[22:30:58] *** madmenyo has quit IRC[22:31:11] *** madmenyo has joined #libgdx[22:32:19] *** noone has quit IRC[22:33:46] *** derferman has quit IRC[22:34:48] *** esvee_ has quit IRC[22:36:17] *** flogy has joined #libgdx[22:40:02] *** przemyslawlis has joined #libgdx[22:40:38] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[22:42:26] <nexsoftware> Clearly they need to have shortcuts: <sometag><somevalue>Uh-oh</></>[22:44:47] *** lukas has quit IRC[22:47:57] *** Jonas__ has quit IRC[22:48:14] <Lecherito> that is kinda what json is[22:49:39] <nexsoftware> You shut your dirty mouth Lecherito[22:49:53] <Lecherito> it's fingers[22:50:08] *** wreed has quit IRC[22:51:20] *** Thoast has quit IRC[22:51:31] <nexsoftware> You shut your dirty fingers Lecherito[22:51:49] *** nick-farmer has quit IRC[22:52:18] *** Jonas__ has joined #libgdx[22:52:35] *** ColaColin has joined #libgdx[22:54:21] <Lecherito> done[22:54:25] <Lecherito> well, almost[22:59:03] <nexsoftware> So, ouya doesn't provide their sdk via maven central huh?[22:59:40] <aegamesi> Is it possible to have a 1bit texture? It seems awfully inefficient to have a texture that has 4 or 2 or even 1 byte per pixel if it's only a single color[23:02:30] *** lukas has joined #libgdx[23:03:24] *** wreed has joined #libgdx[23:10:46] *** sinistersnare has joined #libgdx[23:11:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sinistersnare[23:12:25] *** Flaiker has quit IRC[23:13:56] *** ShivanHunter has quit IRC[23:18:49] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[23:18:59] *** ColaColin has joined #libgdx[23:20:34] *** ilar has quit IRC[23:20:50] *** ilar has joined #libgdx[23:28:00] <nexsoftware> Has anyone actually tried the gdx-pay extension via gradle/maven?[23:28:39] *** derferman has joined #libgdx[23:30:00] *** ShooBit has quit IRC[23:31:41] *** Hovaku has joined #libgdx[23:32:21] <Hovaku> Hi, I've been getting these errors when letting my libGDX desktop app run in the background[23:32:24] <Hovaku> AL lib: (EE) MMDevApiProc: WaitForSingleObjectEx error: 0x102[23:32:26] <davebaol> <TEttinger> I don't like the duplication of tags in XML, seems like a waste[23:32:34] <Hovaku> AL lib: (EE) MMDevApiProc: Failed to get padding: 0x88890004[23:32:37] <davebaol> that's what gives xml more power[23:33:08] <Hovaku> this is with 64bit Java[23:33:13] *** derferman has quit IRC[23:33:44] *** LtKernel has quit IRC[23:33:59] <davebaol> TEttinger: there are xml-based programming languages[23:34:02] <TEttinger> I mean I use EDN, which is a subset of clojure, to store data. it's absurdly easy to translate back and forth.[23:34:35] <TEttinger> davebaol: like Ant?[23:34:45] <davebaol> yeah and voicexml[23:34:54] <TEttinger> which even the author of Ant said using XML was a mistake?[23:34:56] <davebaol> and you have comments support too[23:36:03] <nexsoftware> davebaol, xml based programming languages can die in a fire[23:36:43] <davebaol> I'm just sayng that xml has more expressive power than json[23:36:46] <davebaol> that's all[23:36:48] <TEttinger> http://blogs.tedneward.com/2005/08/22/When+Do+You+Use+XML+Again.aspx[23:37:10] <nexsoftware> json and xml have different purposes[23:37:16] <davebaol> of course[23:38:10] <nexsoftware> Anyway, I don't personally have strong feeling for or against one or the other (except when it comes to xml based programming languages)[23:39:41] <nexsoftware> Back to making gdx-pay a separate gradle-based repo...[23:40:22] <nexsoftware> Publishing android library artifacts to mave is a pita[23:40:30] <nexsoftware> *maven[23:41:55] *** Hovaku has quit IRC[23:43:36] <davebaol> nexsoftware: nice, did you get the go ahead?[23:43:54] *** Jonas__ has quit IRC[23:44:05] <nexsoftware> Not from Mario[23:45:08] <nexsoftware> But I figured if I wanted it to happen I'd have to just do it[23:45:26] <davebaol> right[23:46:26] <nexsoftware> I'll put it on my github to flesh it out then transfer to libgdx when we it is good to go[23:47:16] <nexsoftware> Stupid Ouya doesn't publish their sdk to central[23:50:40] *** Chumper has quit IRC[23:53:51] *** Azazel has quit IRC[23:56:03] *** ColaColin_ has joined #libgdx[23:56:20] *** Fulcano has quit IRC[23:56:48] *** Fulcano has joined #libgdx[23:59:03] *** ColaColin has quit IRC[23:59:13] *** dauntless26 has joined #libgdx