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[04:01:00] <FabienD_> hi Fulapol
[04:01:44] <FabienD_> do you have a blog speaking about java and/or jnode ?
[04:02:01] <Fulapol> a blog no
[04:02:16] <Fulapol> but i have a forum and we talk about jnode there
[04:04:11] <FabienD_> url ?
[04:04:49] <Fulapol> http://foro.hackerslibres.net/collapse/?c=9;sa=collapse#c9
[04:04:56] <Fulapol> there you have
[04:15:08] <FabienD_> from what I understand here and what you're doing these days on jnode.org, it seems there is a real need for spanish translations
[04:15:48] <FabienD_> or is it brazilian ? (I think I already asked you if that's brazilian or spansih but don't remember the answer)
[04:15:57] <Fulapol> is spanish
[04:16:12] <Fulapol> and no, it wasnt me
[04:16:13] <FabienD_> so, you're from spain ?
[04:16:18] <Fulapol> no from mexico
[04:16:34] <Fulapol> but its the same languaje
[04:17:33] <FabienD_> ok
[04:18:16] <Fulapol> but, i knew you have plans to make it multilanguaje
[04:19:48] <FabienD_> do you feel there is strong need for spanish translation because people hardly understand english ?
[04:20:23] <Fulapol> no, i dont think so
[04:20:51] <Fulapol> but always its a good thing to have the papers in the languaje you want
[04:23:07] <FabienD_> I see there is a group called "jnode coders" on your forums
[04:23:52] <FabienD_> afaik none have yet contributed (or it was many years ago, maybe before I came to jnode)
[04:23:58] <Fulapol> exactly
[04:24:20] <Fulapol> no, well i know they make commits every weekend
[04:24:28] <FabienD_> ??!!
[04:24:51] <FabienD_> commits to jnode's subversion repository ?
[04:24:57] <Fulapol> yes
[04:28:29] <FabienD_> didn't you meant 'update' instead of 'commit' ?
[04:29:08] <Fulapol> well i work on my own so i dont know what they do
[04:29:22] <Fulapol> but they told me they make commits every weekend
[04:29:45] <FabienD_> I know all the commiters of jnode source code and i don't think they are speaking spanish
[04:30:04] <FabienD_> I mean the recent and most active commiters
[04:30:50] <FabienD_> afaik none are from spain of south of america
[04:31:02] <FabienD_> *or south
[04:34:05] <FabienD_> jnode is not there : Hackers Libres > Informatica > Sistemas operativos ;-)
[04:35:01] <FabienD_> (it's an usual problem I have found on forums : jnode doesn't really fit in any operating system categories)
[04:36:35] <FabienD_> but it fits in the new emerging category of 'managed OS'
[04:36:48] <FabienD_> like .net/#c sharp based ones
[04:37:07] <Fulapol> she with that you the by
[04:37:26] <Fulapol> i dont now
[04:37:31] <FabienD_> afair , I never saw that category in forums
[04:37:40] <Fulapol> yes
[04:38:05] <Fulapol> but there is like a project because theres no stable version
[04:39:02] <FabienD_> yeah and very small activities/community
[04:39:39] <FabienD_> that's what I have been replied while trying to register jnode on 2 sites
[04:40:00] <FabienD_> bye
[04:48:41] <Fulapol> goodbye
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[14:34:34] <lsantha> hi FabienD_
[14:34:51] <lsantha> thre are quite a few problems in the jtests server sources
[14:35:09] <lsantha> of type: @Override - is not allower when inmplementing interfaces
[14:35:41] <lsantha> could you please remove the those @Override annotations?
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[14:58:19] <lsantha> hi Ziagra
[15:09:39] <FabienD_> hi all
[15:10:11] <FabienD_> lsantha: it should be allowed since java 6
[15:14:20] <lsantha> intellij complains about it
[15:14:34] <lsantha> and in fact it doesn't make much sense
[15:14:46] <FabienD_> you should look at that : http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-18276
[15:15:33] <FabienD_> that's not my opinion but I agree that the name "Override" is wrongly choosen by sun
[15:16:25] <lsantha> the name is ok as long as it's not misused
[15:16:25] <FabienD_> for me "@Override" is to be used when you are using same signature as a super class/super interface method
[15:17:11] <FabienD_> and the compiler is checking that's true : that's the main reason why I am using that annotation (especially usefull when you change a method signature somewhere)
[15:17:38] <lsantha> yes, that's makes sense for overiding but not really for implenting
[15:17:50] <lsantha> because for teh later the compiler will complain anyway
[15:18:38] <lsantha> while for overriding it really makes sense becuase the compiler doen't know you are creating a new mthod or want to override one
[15:20:17] <lsantha> anyway, I probably woudn't make the usage of @Override compulsory on methods implenting interfaces
[15:23:28] <lsantha> FabienD_, do you mean that something enfoces the usage of @Override on interface methods?
[15:23:38] <lsantha> compiler, eclipse or somthing?
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[16:59:10] <FabienD_> hi Zigara and welcome to jnode :)
[16:59:43] <FabienD_> do you need help with jnode or want to help us ?
[21:38:10] <Zigara> oh hi
[21:38:25] <Zigara> i'm not even sure what exactly jnode is :p
[21:41:37] <FabienD_> really ?
[21:41:48] <Zigara> indeed
[21:42:58] <FabienD_> jnode is an operating system, a java virtual machine and also contains an implementation of java APIS which is mostly based on OpenJDK and partially based on GNU Classpath
[21:43:21] <Zigara> ahh :)
[21:43:50] <Zigara> it seems i booted it up in virtualbox before i passed out.. there is just a V on the screen :o
[21:44:02] <FabienD_> JNode = Java New Operating System Design Effort :)
[21:44:11] <Zigara> pure console then a single V at the top left
[21:44:41] <FabienD_> ahah
[21:44:55] <FabienD_> it sounds like the bug I currently have with my eeePC
[21:45:03] <Zigara> :o
[21:46:10] <FabienD_> I have not yet looked at that but I suspect I installed the wrong version of grub on the USb stick I used for booting the eeePC.
[21:46:29] <FabienD_> *not yet looked deeply
[21:47:17] <FabienD_> it's the fact that I tried to run manually some grub commands that didn't work
[21:47:27] <Zigara> ahh
[21:47:48] <FabienD_> what computer did you use ?
[21:47:59] <FabienD_> what grub menu did you choose ?
[21:48:19] <Zigara> oh wait, i used the all-plugins one and its doing stuff
[21:48:34] <Zigara> im using VirtualBox on my laptop, let me take a screenshot of the screen
[21:49:53] <FabienD_> I would be interested to know the exact context (computer and grub menu) that you used to get the 'V' displayed on the screen
[21:49:57] <Zigara> http://i44.tinypic.com/111qbzp.png
[21:50:21] <FabienD_> and also which version of jnode (release or latest from svn ?)
[21:50:36] <Zigara> moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 3 (5.1.2600) up: 1day 2hrs 13mins 27secs cpu: Intel Pentium III Xeon processor (x86) at 2493MHz (96% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 512MB res: 1680x1050 32bit 60Hz ram: 1046/2046MB (51.11%) [|||||-----] hdd: C:\ 59.93GB/128.18GB L:\ 2.01GB/19.92GB net: TAP-Win32 Adapter V9 - 10MB/s 219.4MB In 9.25MB Out
[21:50:58] <Zigara> http://www.jnode.eu/releases/nightly-builds/cdroms/jnode-x86-lite.iso
[21:51:01] <Zigara> is what i got last night
[21:51:16] <Zigara> also the cpu it says is wrong..
[21:51:23] <Zigara> its Core2Duo 2.5ghz
[21:51:39] <Zigara> dual core machine
[22:03:58] <FabienD_> how did you get the "single V at the top left" ? was it in virtual box and by choosing the grub menu item with "VESA" inside ?
[22:04:32] <Zigara> i'm pretty sure it was the `default` one
[22:05:13] <FabienD_> and natively on your laptop ?
[22:05:22] <Zigara> i havent tried that yet
[22:39:23] <FabienD_> so, does it work now ?
[22:40:16] <FabienD_> anyway, it should be faster with vmware and even more with kvm
[22:40:40] <FabienD_> but of course none can beat native performance
[22:51:46] <FabienD_> bye
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