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[10:16:49] <lsantha1> hi all
[10:28:18] <lsantha1> hi FabienD_
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[11:05:19] <FabienD_> hi all
[11:05:35] <FabienD_> bjoern: hi and welcome to jnode :)
[11:05:42] <lsantha1> hi FabienD_
[11:05:42] <bjoern> hi
[11:05:51] <lsantha1> hi bjoern
[11:06:13] <lsantha1> Fabien, what the stus of teh test server?
[11:06:27] <lsantha1> what's the status of the test server?
[11:14:28] <bjoern> i checked out jnode with vmware, it runs very slow; the start of the system takes 1 minute and the gui takes 2 minutes; is that normal?
[11:16:49] <FabienD_> bjoern: how mcuh memory do you give to the vmware vm ?
[11:17:22] <FabienD_> if possible, you should use kvm (kernel virtual machine) instead of vmware : it's faster
[11:17:24] <bjoern> i used the delivered vmx file
[11:19:18] <bjoern> how long does it take with kvm or on a real machine?
[11:22:02] <FabienD_> I can't say since it depends on your configuration but it should be faster
[11:23:58] <bjoern> i think at the moment it is too slow to do some development work with
[11:28:31] <lsantha1> bjoern, you need a modern fast compute to work with jnode
[11:29:48] <lsantha1> but my old athlon64 3500+ with 2G RAM is quite usable too for jnode development
[11:30:23] <lsantha1> with vmware
[11:30:24] <bjoern> lsantha1, i am using pentiumd 2.8Ghz and 1gb ram
[11:30:41] <lsantha1> the 2.8Ghz is not bad
[11:30:49] <lsantha1> but the RAM could be more
[11:31:03] <bjoern> windows is running here faster as jnode
[11:31:23] <lsantha1> if you can give 1G ram for vmware to boot jnode it will go much faster
[11:31:46] <FabienD_> yeah but he can't in vmware or windows will swap ;)
[11:31:46] <bjoern> why does it need so much memory at the moment?
[11:32:17] <lsantha1> because it's using on memry fiesystems too
[11:32:28] <lsantha1> and the hole system is kept in the memory at the momemnt
[11:32:47] <lsantha1> until we ready the installer an on disk configuration
[11:33:11] <lsantha1> when jnode will be installed and loaded from the disk then it will need less memory
[11:33:33] <lsantha1> also the default configurations contain a lot of thigs
[11:33:47] <lsantha1> a smaller configuration can work with 128M too
[11:33:54] <lsantha1> but that will not have the gui
[11:34:33] <lsantha1> I think if you add an other 1G to you pc
[11:34:36] <bjoern> i understand
[11:34:45] <lsantha1> it will be much more suitable for jnode development
[11:35:09] <lsantha1> jnode is a work in progress
[11:35:24] <lsantha1> so I think comparing it to windows at this stage is not a good idea
[11:36:09] <bjoern> isnt there a driver to read from disk?
[11:36:15] <FabienD_> and you're welcome to help us ;)
[11:36:57] <FabienD_> levente, the testserver was kind of usable with vmware but it needs some improvements and I am extending it for kvm
[11:37:39] <bjoern> the next step should be to read the system from disk?
[11:37:41] <FabienD_> last time I ran it, I were able to run the mauve tests
[11:37:58] <FabienD_> bjoern: right
[11:38:20] <FabienD_> for now, it can be installed by hand on a disk
[11:39:13] <FabienD_> but afaik only one person tried that
[11:41:39] <bjoern> thanks for all the information, i think the very important thing is to make it faster
[11:45:02] <FabienD_> sure and there are people working on domains like gc algorithm (with mmtk), scheduling management for jnode
[11:45:36] <FabienD_> but they are alone on their task and sometime they're not active for some weeks.
[11:46:02] <FabienD_> so, any help is welcome especially since we're a very small team
[11:47:01] <bjoern> yes, the problem is that there are not so much people with special os internal knowledge
[11:48:22] <FabienD_> afaik, nobody had such experience before working for jnode
[11:49:29] <FabienD_> except Ewout Prangsma, which has gained of experience with jnode ancestors
[11:49:43] <FabienD_> *gained esperience with
[11:49:55] <FabienD_> *gained experience with
[11:50:01] <bjoern> i think this project very interesting, so it is worth to spend some time in my spare time with it
[11:50:14] <FabienD_> fine !
[11:50:36] <FabienD_> what would interest you ?
[11:51:34] <bjoern> first i must find out how the things go, how to set up a development system
[11:53:15] <FabienD_> one thing is to choose an IDE but you can use notepad and dos command line too :)
[11:54:18] <bjoern> i know at the moment it is not possible to develop inside the os, because it is too slow
[11:54:56] <lsantha1> actaully it is possible to do some things in the os too
[11:55:06] <lsantha1> there are command line tools
[11:55:15] <lsantha1> simple eeditor, javac
[11:55:18] <lsantha1> ant support etc
[11:55:24] <lsantha1> beanshell
[11:55:36] <lsantha1> so for small tasks, experimantal pieces of code its possible
[11:56:06] <lsantha1> but to rebuild the whole system you needs a stable performant platform
[11:56:07] <bjoern> yes, i have to check that
[11:56:26] <lsantha1> there is also class hotswapping in place
[11:56:44] <lsantha1> so if you change teh body of a method
[11:56:54] <lsantha1> you can hotswap the class witout reboot
[11:57:33] <lsantha1> bjoern, I think if you can add on other giga to your ram it will be much better
[11:58:14] <bjoern> do you think kvm is much faster?
[11:58:14] <lsantha1> I wonder what part of jnode would be interesting to you
[11:58:24] <lsantha1> I haven't tried kvm yet
[11:58:35] <lsantha1> but some  people say it's faster
[11:58:48] <lsantha1> FabienD, you are using kvm, right?
[11:59:21] <bjoern> the most developer use vmware at the moment?
[11:59:32] <lsantha1> yes, and real hw too for testing
[12:00:51] <bjoern> first i will read the dokumentation and next time i can come again
[12:01:04] <lsantha1> yes...
[12:01:16] <bjoern> see you next time, i have to do some housework now :-)
[12:01:36] <lsantha1> see you! ;-)
[12:01:43] <bjoern> bye
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[12:04:42] <lsantha1> FabienD_, that's good to hear about the testserver
[12:05:22] <lsantha1> You remember there is one guy who ofered a goodish computer for the regression test server
[12:05:55] <lsantha1> I should start working with him on the details of setting it up
[12:06:38] <lsantha1> or WE
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[20:44:29] <FabienD_> hi fulapol and welcome to jnode :)
[20:45:04] <fulapol> hi
[20:56:10] <FabienD_> fulapol: do you want to help us ?
[20:57:25] <fulapol> how?
[20:57:27] <fulapol> of course
[21:00:15] <fulapol> FabienD_: How do i help you
[21:01:22] <lsantha> fulapol, no worries, with the translations you are already helping jnode
[21:01:59] <fulapol> ok
[21:02:12] <FabienD_> ah right
[21:02:38] <FabienD_> I didn't noticed your were the guys who posted spanish translation
[21:02:45] <FabienD_> *you were
[21:04:29] <FabienD_> btw, it would be better if drupal support translation, maybe through a plugin
[21:04:45] <fulapol> yes
[21:05:08] <lsantha> FabienD, peda, can you please investigate way of making the site multilingual?
[21:05:18] <lsantha> ways
[21:06:32] <lsantha> or we can just create  a new book for every transalation of teh documentation
[21:06:42] <fulapol> emmm
[21:06:45] <fulapol> see this
[21:07:02] <fulapol> http://drupal.org/project/i18n Provides content translation
[21:07:51] <lsantha> good link, fulapol, thanks a lot
[21:10:22] <fulapol> youre welcome
[21:41:02] <FabienD_> bye all
[21:41:09] <FabienD_> see you next week
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