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[01:55:32] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev jglick could you clarify why anon classes over remoting are a problem? I understand for serialization to disk like InstallState, but remoting? Is this limited to the same sort of situation as the serialVersionUid change we merged, or what's the motivation here?
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[06:37:30] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: Not a problem for me at all. It is a common use case for callables
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[06:43:15] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: imho this change is just a big can of worms for plugin devs. Yes it prevents them from making mistakes, but at cost of many warning reports
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[06:53:45] <oleg-nenashev> disclaimer: I reviewed the code only after the ping
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[07:57:16] <Hawk123> Hello, How to run nested shell commands in jenknis blue ocean?
[07:57:51] <Hawk123> I tried this: sudo docker rm $(sudo docker stop $(sudo docker ps -a -q --filter ancestor=my-docker-image --format="{{.ID}}"))
[07:58:12] <Hawk123> But I get sudo docker stop requires at least one argument
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[08:04:56] <srinidhi> Hawk123: this might be happening because "sudo docker ps -a" isn't returning anything
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[08:23:10] <Hawk123> srinidhi you are right.
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[13:22:44] <jglick> danielbeck: explained in PR
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[13:58:56] <batmat> TIL Jenkins.getInstance().getClass() == hudson.model.Hudson
[13:59:00] * batmat is lost
[13:59:14] * batmat how does that even work
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[14:09:44] <danielbeck> jglick sorry but still don't see it. The best match is "unpredictable serialized form" in a linked PR but even that seems not clearly a problem for remoting
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[14:14:15] <danielbeck> jglick thank you
[14:14:37] <jglick> anyway I should set up a proper redirect, will make a note
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[14:17:31] <danielbeck> will that help towards some of the MasterComputer or servlet classes related problems we occasionally see?
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[14:18:52] <jglick> and yes might fix some problems related to `Jenkins` -> `javax.servlet`
[14:18:55] <jglick> TBD
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[16:26:59] <danielbeck> I see lots of warnings in our near future :-)
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[18:19:23] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: Yeah, a LOT. We should have cleaned up the core at least IMHo
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[19:05:20] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev welcome back :)
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[19:21:54] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: Still traveling. But I am glad to see that everything is in place. And thanks a lot for doing the changelog early!
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[19:48:18] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev it's unclear what you mean about finalizing the setChoices PR
[19:48:49] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev the downstream PR exists and demonstrates the core change works as intended with fairly minimal complaints from jglick about the code I write
[19:48:53] <danielbeck> so IMO it's good to go
[19:49:16] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: IIRC I approved it and said it's ready to go as well
[19:49:28] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev "+1 for finalizing it"
[19:49:51] <danielbeck> oh did you mean that I finally got around to fixing it?
[19:50:06] <oleg-nenashev> daniel-beck: It was supposed to be "thumbs up for finalizing it"
[19:50:27] <oleg-nenashev> sorry for confusion
[19:50:51] <danielbeck> merged, perhaps it still gets picked up :)
[19:51:04] <oleg-nenashev> maybe
[19:51:22] <oleg-nenashev> So... we are below 90 PRs, yeye
[19:51:56] <oleg-nenashev> And 8 unmerged ones have been created this week
[19:52:20] <oleg-nenashev> And 14 are still submitted by me :(
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[19:55:02] <danielbeck> I'm down to 9 :D but I think I didn't have as many as you to start with
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