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[00:01:20] <danielbeck> hah
[00:01:51] <danielbeck> I liked it as it helped identify issues filed by people who couldn't use an issue tracker, or even just read the bold red message on the create issue screen
[00:01:59] <danielbeck> … and ignore them
[00:02:18] <oleg-nenashev> Actually, there are only 56 OPEN unsorted issues now from 438.
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[00:02:50] <oleg-nenashev> But yes, generally _unsorted is the thing for people who do not use JIRA properly
[00:03:07] <oleg-nenashev> thanks to underscore, it appears in the top of the list
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[00:05:51] <oleg-nenashev> I also wonder what submitters of tickets like https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-46927 expect. "Junkies", heh
[00:05:53] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-46927:Installation issue in localhost (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-46927
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[00:26:19] <chuck9> oleg-nenashev docker pipeline is a dependency of the pipeline plugin itself. how can i remove it and still use pipeline?
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[00:27:05] <oleg-nenashev> chuck9: You do not need to remove it. You just should use other steps like node()
[00:27:40] <chuck9> not sure what you mean? do you have an example?
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[00:32:06] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ autocompletion on mobile
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[00:34:37] <oleg-nenashev> chuck9: 1) Configure Docker or Yet Another Docker Cloud (requires plugins) 2) Add images to these plugins and define labels, e.g. "foo" 3) Configure your Pipeline to run on these nodes by using node("foo") { /* your code */}
[00:35:14] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck drulli: What do we do with Prototype?
[00:37:46] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev didn't dnusbaum look into adding the null check?
[00:38:14] <oleg-nenashev> I do not see PRs for that so far
[00:39:04] <oleg-nenashev> Not that it matter much according to community ratings, but definitely needs some love eventually
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[00:44:39] <danielbeck> right
[00:45:04] <danielbeck> ideally before drulli1 and others start to rely on the new release
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[00:50:36] <chuck9> oleg-nenashev got a link to documentation?
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[00:54:51] <chuck9> lil confused how to setup these plugins
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[00:55:06] <oleg-nenashev> chuck: https://github.com/KostyaSha/yet-another-docker-plugin/ , for example
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[00:56:31] <oleg-nenashev> sample config for inspiration: https://github.com/oleg-nenashev/demo-jenkins-config-as-code/blob/master/init_scripts/src/main/groovy/scripts/Docker.groovy . Sorry, stopped doing UI configuration of these things
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[01:08:36] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev do you think I should hold merging the revert for a bit to give the author a chance to speak up? Or is it straightforward to file again? WDYT?
[01:09:42] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: Let's wait till tomorrow (today?) ~2PM our time. So we can revert it before kohsuke starts release if there is no feedback
[01:10:05] <oleg-nenashev> Refiling is trivial, but contributors do not always do so :(
[01:18:04] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev TBH the lack of tests alone concerns me a bit. And this isn't such an obviously needed improvement that not getting it refiled will be a problem IMO.
[01:18:16] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev but OK -- could you merge or poke me tomorrow at 2?
[01:18:22] <oleg-nenashev> ok
[01:18:27] <danielbeck> preferably the former if we don't get a response
[01:18:55] <oleg-nenashev> meanwhile I will check whether there are use-cases to keep it
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[01:55:21] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev as I wrote, should be straightforward to submit again. Even if the revert messes with the history it's not overly complex. I'm not rejecting it.
[01:55:48] <danielbeck> Just saying, this deserves tests and to properly consider alternatives, at a minimum
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[02:21:01] <chuck9> oleg-nenashev i was able to get it working by passing args '-u root:sudo -v $HOME/workspace/myproject:/myproject' . just FYI. thanks so much for your help!
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[09:54:58] <boobayh> Hi what is jenkins
[09:55:54] <boobayh> Hello what kind of automaton can I do with Jenkins
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[10:01:20] <boobayh> fuck all ?
[10:01:24] <boobayh> no reply
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[10:25:33] <boobayh> anyone there ?
[10:25:35] <boobayh> ??
[10:25:42] <boobayh> all sleeping ????????????
[10:25:44] <boobayh> :(
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[12:49:05] <danielbeck> well, I made this channel +r :)
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[12:55:13] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev WDYT of a label 'needs-justification' for jenkinsci/jenkins? I could have applied that to the PR I now plan to revert, and PR 3314 looks like a candidate for that as well.
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[13:02:53] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev I'm around this afternoon so will merge my revert PR in an hour unless it gets blocked
[13:08:24] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: go for it. No response => better to revert for now
[13:08:38] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: regarding "needs-justification", +1
[13:08:45] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev to clarify, do you mean now?
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[13:09:31] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: I will be probably offline at 2PM, but you have my +1 regarding the revert. So you are free to do it when you prefer
[13:09:39] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev ok, thanks
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[13:14:33] <drulli> Are you also planning to revert #3277? I did not find a quick workaround, I think a JS expert needs to look at this (which we do not have. :-(
[13:17:56] <danielbeck> drulli I thought dnusbaum looked into it and has an idea, but apparently I'm mistaken -- or at least there's no PR yet
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[13:19:20] <danielbeck> drulli probably best to do so. I can see who votes and watches JENKINS-49968 looks popular (and not just watchers/voters I recognize)
[13:19:23] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-49968:Core 2.110 is unable to select a branch source via the server dropdown (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-49968
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[13:20:28] <oleg-nenashev> I am +1 regarding revert for now, but the PR should be resubmitted after that IMHO
[13:21:35] <danielbeck> oleg-nenashev to clarify, Ulli's update PR?
[13:22:47] <drulli> I don't have a update yet :-(
[13:23:38] <drulli> and I think without a JS expert I won't find one…
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[13:26:38] <danielbeck> drulli oleg-nenashev revert PR up at https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/3342 would appreciaste a sanity check whether I reverted correctly
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[13:29:03] <danielbeck> git diff 48207a19da82836c1e281244a4cf180ffb39f0f1 9bc4c95d44a3538a4fb6dd67efecd2c6448c3664 war/src/main/webapp/scripts/prototype.js is empty so I feel good about it but still :)
[13:30:20] <te007> hi, regarding a Jenkinsfile from a SCM, does the Jenkins host checkout the SCM locally and parse the Jenkinsfile to check which executor to start the job on?
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[13:33:32] <danielbeck> te007 Pipeline is always evaluated on the master, it's just allocating virtual resources and transparently sending commands like 'sh' to the agents for execution there.
[13:34:13] <danielbeck> https://github.com/jenkinsci/workflow-cps-plugin/#technical-design
[13:35:24] <te007> thank you!
[13:43:43] <drulli> danielbeck: Downloading the GitHub file and making a diff: prototype.js prototype-revert.js
[13:43:50] <drulli> Result is also empty...
[13:44:02] <drulli> So the PR is good.
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[15:15:20] <drulli> jenkins-admin: Create analysis-model in the issue tracker for drulli
[15:15:21] <jenkins-admin> Adding a new JIRA subcomponent analysis-model to the JENKINS project, owned by drulli
[15:15:22] <jenkins-admin> New component created. URL is https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/rest/api/2/component/23523
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[16:55:00] <oleg-nenashev> drulli: Maybe analysis-model-lib?
[16:55:43] <oleg-nenashev> Generally I suggest using API Plugin instead of a library packaging where possible
[16:56:04] <oleg-nenashev> Otherwise it will be challenging to do breaking changes if needed
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[17:01:27] <drulli> I just used the name of the Git module
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[17:02:14] <drulli> (It is also the maven artifact ID)
[17:02:44] <drulli> But it is not yet released as 1.0, so everything is still changeable
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[17:11:18] <oleg-nenashev> drulli yeah, I would recommend to use "-lib" or "-plugin" to avoid confusion
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[17:22:29] <danielbeck> drulli We've long since added the -plugin suffix to all plugin components, otherwise Logging Plugin, Slave Setup Plugin, and a bunch of others got pointlessly issues assigned
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[17:23:52] <oleg-nenashev> danielbeck: Well, the suffix didn't help Slave Setup Plugin much L(
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[17:24:20] <danielbeck> you know the saying about idiot proofing systems ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:24:31] <oleg-nenashev> yeah
[17:25:21] <oleg-nenashev> I just scrub it sometimes, because I am apparently a maintainer of the most of the agent-related stuff
[17:25:26] <oleg-nenashev> *was a maintainer
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[20:21:47] <chuck9> after running a successful build. i am getting: Caused by: hudson.plugins.git.GitException: Command "git clean -fdx" returned status code 1: on the following builds. what could be causing this? (my setup is multi branch pipeline with node)
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[20:50:29] <chuck9> after running a successful build. i am getting: Caused by: hudson.plugins.git.GitException: Command "git clean -fdx" returned status code 1: on the following builds. what could be causing this? (my setup is multi branch pipeline with node)
[20:50:57] <chuck9> looks like its coming from the Jenkins git plugin. is there some way to alter what that does? or debug it??
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[21:22:24] <drulli> oleg-nenashev: plugin makes no sense since it is not a plug-in. It even has no dependency to Jenkins anymore. But I think that I can live with analysis-model-lib (or analysis-lib, static-analysis-lib). I will rename it before it will go live...
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[21:25:32] <BuffyNZ2> Hi folks, many moons ago I uploaded a plugin for jenkins, but I no longer use it or maintain it. I still get assigned the issues for it. How do I remove myself as the maintainer?
[21:26:06] <BuffyNZ2> I no longer have the infrastructure to maintain the plugin.
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[21:27:18] <drulli> Then the plug-in should be marked for adoption
[21:28:01] <drulli> I can remove you from Jira, what is your ID and what component?
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[21:29:03] <drulli> See https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Adopt+a+Plugin on how to mark the plugin
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[21:30:43] <BuffyNZ2> drulli: Thanks just found that page and am heading for the wiki now. :) The plugin is vault-scm-plugin. Is my ID my username?
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[21:33:06] <drulli> The username in Jira, yes
[21:34:19] <BuffyNZ2> Thanks, my id is stuartwhelan
[21:34:33] <BuffyNZ2> Label added to the wiki page.
[21:34:44] <drulli> jenkins-admin:Set description of analysis-model to "Static Analysis Model and Parsers"
[21:34:45] <jenkins-admin> Updating the description of component analysis-model
[21:34:49] <jenkins-admin> The component description has been updated
[21:35:27] <drulli> jenkins-admin: Remove lead of vault-scm-plugin
[21:35:27] <jenkins-admin> Changing default assignee of subcomponent vault-scm-plugin to null
[21:35:30] <jenkins-admin> Default assignee has been removed
[21:35:50] <BuffyNZ2> drulli: I appreciate the help, thank you!
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[21:37:23] <drulli> jenkins-admin:Set description of analysis-model to "Static Analysis Model and Parsers - Required by warnings-plugin and analysis-core-plugin"
[21:37:24] <jenkins-admin> Updating the description of component analysis-model
[21:37:27] <jenkins-admin> The component description has been updated
[21:37:38] <drulli> BuffyNZ2: you are welcome
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[21:38:18] <drulli> jenkins-admin:Set description of analysis-model to "Static Analysis Model and Parsers - required by warnings-plugin and analysis-core-plugin"
[21:38:19] <jenkins-admin> Updating the description of component analysis-model
[21:38:22] <jenkins-admin> The component description has been updated
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[21:47:39] <chuck9> seeing Caused by: hudson.plugins.git.GitException: Command "git clean -fdx" returned status code 1: in a node pipeline. seeing nothing on support pages. but lots of noise on this. any possible solutions/suggestions?
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[21:49:10] <drulli> jenkins-admin:Set description of analysis-core to "Static Analysis Utilities - base functionality for all Jenkins' static analysis plug-ins"
[21:49:11] <jenkins-admin> Updating the description of component analysis-core
[21:49:12] <jenkins-admin> Unable to find component analysis-core in the JENKINS issue tracker
[21:49:36] <drulli> jenkins-admin:Set description of analysis-core-plugin to "Static Analysis Utilities - base functionality for all Jenkins' static analysis plug-ins"
[21:49:36] <jenkins-admin> Updating the description of component analysis-core-plugin
[21:49:40] <jenkins-admin> The component description has been updated
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[21:53:46] <chuck9> there some way to see more details as to what is being run by jenkins other than console output? cuz its not showing the direct commands its putting and when i run git clean -fdx manually it works fine
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[21:53:56] <chuck9> so why would jenkins have problems?
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[21:55:11] <drulli> Normally everything relevant should be part of the console output, even the git checkout
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[22:04:43] <chuck9> but cant tell what user jenkins is running as
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[22:05:18] <chuck9> here is my current output... very hard to tell whats causing the issue https://screencast.com/t/ivvng2t4hAG6
[22:05:58] <chuck9> fails to move everything in node_modules dir
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[22:16:24] <tang^> chuck9: running on master or an agent?
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[22:19:01] <chuck9> tang^ what do you mean? running on an intergration branch for now
[22:20:10] <chuck9> ran one build fine... but every build since then barfs on this
[22:20:39] <chuck9> Caused by: hudson.plugins.git.GitException: Command "git clean -fdx" returned status code 1:
[22:21:08] <tang^> see that stderr on the last line?
[22:21:28] <tang^> something still has that package.json file locked open
[22:23:20] <tang^> lsof will be your friend for troubleshooting that
[22:24:28] <chuck9> thats not the last line... thats just the first line of all the files in node_modules https://screencast.com/t/diYqnvSL9OB
[22:24:49] <chuck9> and nothing has them open its inside a docker image from the pipeline... what could be using them?
[22:25:07] <chuck9> only jenkins touches that entire server
[22:25:16] <tang^> that was the last line in the capture you showed
[22:25:28] <tang^> maybe try capturing that as text instead then
[22:25:29] <chuck9> running ubuntu using a basic multi branch node pipeline
[22:26:03] <tang^> still, use lsof on one of those files to see what app has them locked open
[22:26:53] <chuck9> "docker: Error response from daemon: OCI runtime create failed: container_linux.go:348: starting container process caused "exec: \"lsof\": executable file not found in $PATH": unknown."
[22:27:09] <chuck9> dont know my way around all this very well :(
[22:27:24] <tang^> wait, this is all inside a docker container?
[22:27:48] <chuck9> yea. the pipeline uses docker
[22:28:13] <tang^> oh, I don't know docker. I can't help much with that
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[22:33:49] <chuck9> :(
[22:34:10] <chuck9> how would you recommend we do a CI/CD pipeline then if not with docker?
[22:34:29] <chuck9> need to build and run tests etc
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[22:34:41] <chuck9> all the jenkins docs pointed me to this docker solution
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[22:35:16] <tang^> I think it's popular and recommended... I just don't do it myself so I can't help
[22:35:26] <tang^> those who can, tend to not be around on the weekends, I think
[22:36:19] <tang^> the user mailing list or stackoverflow might be quicker answers on the weekend than IRC. I don't know
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[22:42:00] <chuck9> yea been checking stack overflow... its all mostly windows users with stuck processes on the files... which make sense. i just dont know docker well enouhg myself i guess
[22:43:32] <tang^> likewise
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[22:51:53] <chuck9> tang^ is there a way i can show what the directory im in is when im running commands
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[22:52:49] <tang^> if it's an sh command, you can add in a pwd call... but otherwise I'm not sure about a debug mode that offers that information
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[22:56:02] <chuck9> this isnt even getting to my code
[22:56:09] <chuck9> this is in the scm plugin
[22:56:26] <chuck9> or git plugin
[22:56:40] <chuck9> im not trying to run any of those commands that are being ruj
[22:57:05] <chuck9> so im not sure where i can put any sh commands or debug :(
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[23:22:24] <oleg-nenashev> drulli: I will try to respond about plugin/lib in details tomorrow. Generally the problem is with packaging. If several plugins depend on a single lib, each of them packages its own version in HPI. After that it becomes difficult to manage changes, e.g. when you need a breaking change or a security fix. E.g. I hit it hard with EnvInject Lib + some other libs in Jenkins org. Even if you create a lib which does
[23:22:24] <oleg-nenashev> not depend on Jenkins, my recommendation is to wrap it into a plugin. E.g. https://github.com/jenkinsci/github-api-plugin or https://github.com/jenkinsci/jsch-plugin
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[23:34:59] <drulli> oleg-nenashev: it is already wrapped in analysis-core-plugin (otherwise class loading would not work as far as I remember). The library itself should not be used by another plug-in. (Only by other tools outside of the Jenkins universe)
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