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[02:24:11] <cliffano> gday michael
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[04:51:04] <sobersabre> hi. I am looking at "Global parameters" plugin, on Jenkins 2.23 (cannot upgrade now), I have defined 2 environment variables.
[04:51:30] <sobersabre> key "XYZ", value "xyz"
[04:51:54] <sobersabre> I want to use its value as default value for job parameter. how do I access that "XYZ" in groovy pipeline ?
[04:54:51] <sobersabre> Tried: 1) def mydefault = XYZ, 2) def mydefault = env.XYZ, 3) def myenv = manager.getEnvVars(); def mydefault = myenv.XYZ, 4) def myenv = build.environment.get("XYZ")
[04:55:01] <sobersabre> I am getting 'null' at printout.
[04:55:46] <sobersabre> I suspect it gets populated only inside a node closure, but AFAIK job parameters clause is not supposed to be defined inside node() {}
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[05:30:34] <PK_Rocks> Hi
[05:31:29] <PK_Rocks> Would require your help for setting up email notification
[05:32:19] <PK_Rocks> I had configured the server with smtp ...but it give error  Failed to send out e-mail  javax.mail.AuthenticationFailedException: No authentication mechansims supported by both server and client  	at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.authenticate(SMTPTransport.java:756)  	at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.protocolConnect(SMTPTransport.java:669)  	at javax.mail.Service.connect(Service.java:317)
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[05:34:24] <PK_Rocks> Hi Cilefen...
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[05:39:07] <PK_Rocks> Team could you please help in setting email
[05:39:40] <PK_Rocks> Hi @danielbeck
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[07:05:48] <mase_wk> PK_Rocks: what auth mechanism are you using ?
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[08:58:29] <jablo> Am I missing something or can the "Shared Workspace" plugin not really work with checking out multiple repositories?
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[09:08:20] <jablo> (oh... *blushing*) it's the master/controlling matrix jobs that are running besides the real workers... doh.
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[09:26:04] <exxi> currently i have a jenkins server running, i want to replicate the exact same jenkins server, for that do i need to copy only the jenkins home dir ?
[09:28:15] <jablo> exxe: Given that the JENKINS_HOME contains "All the settings, build logs, artifact archives are stored under the  JENKINS_HOME directory. Simply archive this directory to make a back up." (https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Administering+Jenkins) I'd say that is only thing that you need to copy. At least that is what I am going to try to do soon 'cause I need a test/playground jenkins master.
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[09:29:49] <jablo> How can I use the "Shared Workspace" plugin for jobs that need to checkout multiple repositories?
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[10:15:42] <exxi> jablo, thanks mate :)
[10:16:15] <hughsaunders> I have some params defined in a jenkinsfile, when the job is triggered by github org folder, the default param values are not supplied.
[10:16:59] <hughsaunders> If I trigger using 'build with parameters' from the ui, the defaults are pre-populated in the form and successfully supplied to the job.
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[10:20:43] <hughsaunders> So how do I get the org folder / PR trigger to supply default param values?
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[10:29:51] <Sharath> HI @danielbeck - please find the systemInfo output..which you asked on Friday
[10:30:02] <Sharath> @danielbeck - https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/ffbc1c4da6f9b94d094425934d7136b7/raw/fda91fc09b8736ed09b9f92b84c9038155e54756/gistfile1.txt
[10:30:31] <Sharath> @danieldeck - This corruptions issue occurs in the language: tr, ru, pt_BR ,hu, de,cs Other languages(es, fr, it, ja, ko,pl, zh_CN, zh_TW) work fine.   please help me to resolve the issue
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[10:44:14] <danielbeck> Sharath what was the problem again?
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[10:56:21] <Sharath> @danielbeck - I have build step where I execute command line test on slave machine.. and read the command output in plugin code and print on console using listener... it is failing to print some characters of language: tr, ru, pt_BR ,hu, de,cs
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[10:59:06] <Sharath> @danielbeck - printing junk.. question mark in black diamond, boxes..... I added -Dfile.encoding=UTF8 property also...still those special characters are not printed correctly on Jenkins console output
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[11:00:07] <danielbeck> Sharath have you tried debugging to determine at which point it breaks? I.e. does Jenkins see the correct chars at all and fail to print, or is the problem in the command output?
[11:01:23] <Sharath> @danielbeck - when I run command manually on the slave machine.. output is fine, printing in correct characters..
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[11:04:22] <danielbeck> Sharath not what I was suggesting -- debug Jenkins to see whether the strings internally have correct chars.
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[11:06:53] <Sharath> @danielbeck - oh okay.. can you please point me to any document or any link which explains how to debug Jenkins.. to check what it receiving..
[11:07:23] <danielbeck> Sharath FWIW in the output you provided I'm concerned about occurrences of Cp1251 -- not sure whether it matters, but still.
[11:07:47] <danielbeck> Sharath You are you writing a plugin right? And could use hpi:run ?
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[11:09:54] <Sharath> @danielbeck - okay, by default Cp1251 many places.. as per suggestions on net.. I changed file.encoding to use UTF-8.. but still same issue..    Yes, I am writing plugin.. I am not using hpi:run.. I use mvn package to build the plugin and install the .hpi on Jenkins site to test my plugin
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[11:23:03] <px3> @sharath: simply add a debug logger for hudson (ALL) and jenkins (ALL) to systemlog, so you shuld be able to see, what is happening
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[11:25:33] <jablo> How can I use the "Shared Workspace" plugin for jobs that need to checkout multiple repositories?
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[11:36:31] <jablo> Maybe I better pose the question more precisely. I am in doubt as to how to properly configure and use the "Shared Workspace" plugin. For building our cross-platform app, I need to check out 3 repositories (don't ask). The app comes in 4 varieties, all built from the same 3 repositories. I'd like for my matrix job to use the same checked out sources. In addition, I'd like to be able to have 1 such job per major branch (master, development, feature_X, ...); each
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[11:49:54] <Sharath> px3 - thanks for response.. can you please tell me.. how and where to set this logging and where to check
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[11:57:45] <Sharath> @px3 - I Added new log recorder on Manage Jenkins -> system log -> and then added Logger hudson set to log level all and also Jenkins to all... executing my build step... where to look for characters which I am reading from command output to print on console output ?
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[12:12:31] <Sharath> @px3 - I am looking into http://localhost:8080/log/myLogging/     myLogging is the new Logger which i added.. but I am not able to see anything related to characters..which I am reading from command output in plugin code... it just printing like hasPermission(EVERYONE,Permission[class hudson.model.Hudson,Read])=>true and ENTRY  Feb 27, 2017 4:42:31 PM FINER hudson.security.ChainedServletFilter doFilter
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[12:20:31] <hengi> Hello i would like to use log4j for my jenkins pipeline jobs. I solved my dependencie problems with grapes but i'm stucked at the log4j configuration. It is possible to store my log4j2.xml somewhere that is reachable from all slaves?
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[12:21:36] <Augier|Work> Hi
[12:22:30] <Augier|Work> Hey, what is the status of JENKINS-33719 ( https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-33719 )? It is marked as resolved, but I'm still facing the problem in Jenkins 2.39LTS
[12:22:32] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-33719:PipelineScript from SCM does not support job parameters (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-33719
[12:28:03] <Augier|Work> Jenkins 2.23.2*
[12:29:52] <Sharath> @danielbeck - I am looking into http://localhost:8080/log/myLogging/     myLogging is the new Logger which i added.. but I am not able to see anything related to characters..which I am reading from command output in plugin code... where to check for characters ?
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[12:30:26] <danielbeck> Sharath you're supposed to set up a logger and send whatever you want to appear there in your plugin
[12:34:05] <Sharath> @danielbeck - do I need to write log statements in plugin code to display on log/myLogging ? if please point me to the document..  I setup logger by creating myLogger in system log.. by setting jenkins to all and hudson to all.. page is overriding within few seconds.. but when I am looking into it.. I dont think it is printing the characters
[12:35:12] <danielbeck> Sharath http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/logging/package-summary.html
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[12:39:42] <Sharath> @danielbeck - Thanks I will look into it and will try..
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[12:48:11] <Chetic> is it possible to abort a parallel step on the first branch that fails?
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[12:48:32] <Chetic> I need my developers to get fast feedback on our larger parallelized system tests
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[13:08:02] <px3> @sharat: sorry for the late answer, did you check your environment, where you are building ? what about the LC-Settings on the build-clients ? check the env-settings for your build node and you should find the error :)
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[13:18:38] <directhex> what should I use in a plugin in place of Computer.currentComputer() for pipeline compatibility?
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[13:20:30] <directhex> hm, workspace.toComputer() maybe
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[13:29:21] <ekarlso> what is the best way using declerative syntax to build and publish docker files ?
[13:30:36] <ekarlso> My jenkins server is inside a docker container itself using the upstream jenkins image that doesnt have the dokcer command avaiable so wondering if someone has done something similar
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[13:35:03] <Augier|Work> Ping
[13:35:09] <Augier|Work> > Hey, what is the status of JENKINS-33719 ( https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-33719 )? It is marked as resolved, but I'm still facing the problem in Jenkins 2.32.2LTS
[13:35:12] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-33719:PipelineScript from SCM does not support job parameters (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-33719
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[13:36:56] <Para^-^> Augier|Work: Do you use new enough versions of the plugins marked at https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-28447 ?
[13:36:58] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-28447:CpsScmFlowDefinition does not resolve variables (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-28447
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[13:39:13] <Chetic> declarative pipeline can't run multiple docker containers simultaneously can it?
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[13:42:03] <Augier|Work> Para^-^: Let me check
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[13:43:52] <directhex> ok, now i'm having trouble with using FilePath.copyTo in a pipeline plugin
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[13:46:22] <Augier|Work> Para^-^: I don't know. How can I check? Isn't this plugin embedded in the war file?
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[13:47:04] <Para^-^> Well there too, but you can check the versions from Plugin Manager
[13:47:21] <Para^-^> Which is part of configuration in the UI
[13:47:57] <foly> I would like to use a Jenkins Master just as a launch platform and UI, such that if it crashes, all jobs are still running in e.g. Kubernetes and that the for the job queue itself Jenkins is also *not* the source of truth, but some system like Kubernetes. Does something like that already exist?
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[13:50:02] <danielbeck> foly https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Monitoring+external+jobs ? But note that basically nobody uses that
[13:50:33] <foly> danielbeck: why doesn't anyone use that?
[13:50:47] <Augier|Work> Para^-^:  workflow-job seems to be a part of the Pipeline plugin. Mine is v2.5 which embeds workflow-job v2.7 according to https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Pipeline+Plugin. So I suppose my plugin is recent enough
[13:50:52] <danielbeck> foly Don't know, unusual use case maybe? I just know that nobody does
[13:51:03] <foly> danielbeck: I basically want the job dependency specification of Jenkins, but the contents of the jobs should be handled by robust systems (which Jenkins is not).
[13:51:04] <danielbeck> foly e.g. that a job of this type couldn't actually be configured due to a core regression went unnoticed for a year
[13:51:11] <Augier|Work> workflow-job v2.9*
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[13:52:15] <foly> danielbeck: so, basically I want to have a system where Jenkins handles the job dependency feature, figures out what the underlying cluster actually ran (job wise), and once it comes back up launches the right jobs again.
[13:52:31] <danielbeck> foly I don't think that's possible
[13:52:41] <foly> danielbeck: but if I want to pull the plug out of Jenkins, let's say 50% of the time (extreme case), that it should still happily work.
[13:53:27] <foly> danielbeck: so, how do people cope with this in practice? Do they just hope that Jenkins will not have a bug?
[13:53:36] <danielbeck> foly Pipeline jobs are designed to be resilient in case of master failures and agent disconnections, maybe look into those?
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[13:54:14] <directhex> resilient in the sense of resuming a job from a completed job step, not steps continuing to run in the absence of a master, iirc
[13:54:37] <danielbeck> directhex https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Pipeline+Nodes+and+Processes+Plugin
[13:54:55] <directhex> huh. fancy
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[13:56:52] <Augier|Work> Para^-^: Note that I can't access the environment variable in both the Pipeline from SCM configuration and the Jenkinsfile
[13:57:05] <foly> danielbeck: is there any documentation as to what it's supposed to do exactly?
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[13:57:46] <foly> danielbeck: and what's a "master failure"? Is shutting it down considered a "master failure"?
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[13:57:54] <foly> danielbeck: i.e. the whole machine, not just Jenkins.
[13:58:06] <danielbeck> foly https://github.com/jenkinsci/pipeline-plugin/blob/master/README.md#pause-and-resume-execution
[13:58:47] <danielbeck> foly https://github.com/jenkinsci/workflow-cps-plugin/#technical-design
[14:00:20] <foly> danielbeck: is 99.99% availability realistic with Jenkins assuming there is some automated monitoring to see whether Jenkins has suffered some catastrophic failure and automatically deploy a new one with only the minimum of plugins (just the ones needed to make pipelines work)?
[14:00:46] <ekarlso> Noone running jenkins master in a docker container and building containers via it ?
[14:00:54] <foly> danielbeck: I don't plan to run any jobs on the machine running the master itself (everything would be on other machines).
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[14:01:47] <jablo> Shared Workspace plugin really gives me grief. I installed it, restarted jenkins and a node (just to be safe) and configured a shared workspace (git); then in a job, as the documentation says, I use the ${SHAREDSPACE_SCM_URL}  variable in the SCM url field (my actual value is ${SHAREDSPACE_SCM_URL}/Modules). Yet, when the job runs, jenkins tries to check out NONE/Modules. How does one actually use the Shared Workspace plugin?
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[14:02:52] <jablo> also at no time does jenkins try to check out source code into {root}/sharedspace/{workspace name}
[14:02:55] <danielbeck> foly I don't know.
[14:03:25] <foly> danielbeck: is version 2 of Jenkins just a continuation of version 1 in the sense that it has less bugs in core?
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[14:04:07] <danielbeck> foly I don't understand the question. Have you read https://jenkins.io/2.0/ ?
[14:05:10] <danielbeck> which, admittedly, is heavy on the PR speak, but it basically says "we improved some UI and have a setup wizard now" -- otherwise, it's still the same core. Whether bugs that affect you are fixed can be seen in the changelogs
[14:05:45] <ekarlso> danielbeck: you got an idea ?
[14:06:18] <danielbeck> ekarlso use distributed builds and don't build on master
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[14:08:50] <ekarlso> danielbeck: do you typically run the jenkins slave in a docker container or ?
[14:09:07] <danielbeck> ekarlso depends on your environment and preferences
[14:09:54] <foly> ekarlso: it depends on what you are optimizing for.
[14:10:14] <foly> ekarlso: and what other infrastructure you have available.
[14:10:51] <foly> ekarlso: docker is "easy", but a Fortune 500 company could squeeze out a tiny bit of efficiency by not using docker.
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[14:24:06] <Augier|Work> Para^-^: Hmm... Never mind... It actually works. It's the EnvInject plugin that does not work :/
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[14:35:35] <Sharath> @danielbeck - I have added Logger.log in plugin code.. while ((s = stdInput.readLine()) != null) {         		LOGGER.log(Level.FINE, " Sharath >> s "+s);          		listener.getLogger().println(s);         	} but where to check
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[14:37:14] <Sharath> @danielbeck - I re-package plugin, installed on Jenkins server, executed Job... but where to look for these messages ?
[14:37:58] <Sharath> @danielbeck -Weitere Informationen zur Ausführung finden Sie hier:    ---> this is one line from command output when i execute manually using command prompt.. Weitere Informationen zur Ausf�hrung finden Sie hier:    --> when I run build.. this is console output
[14:38:43] <ekarlso> so it might be better danielbeck so just install docker and jenkins on vms and have it execute cocker ? : )
[14:38:51] <ekarlso> hah, s/co/do/
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[14:39:39] <danielbeck> Sharath https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Logging
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[14:45:44] <Sharath> @danielbeck - yes, I looked into this document.. I will try once again.. thanks
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[14:53:30] <Sharath> @danielbeck - I added Logger.log before printing on console output using listener.. and it printed same thing on system log > logger
[14:53:59] <Sharath>  Sharath >> s Weitere Informationen zur Ausf�hrung finden Sie hier: C:\Windows\TEMP\CommandLineLog.txt
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[14:55:40] <Sharath> @danielbeck - this is my code to read command output..  final Process  proc = pb.start(); if (input != null && input.length() > 0) {             proc.getOutputStream().write(input.getBytes());         } BufferedReader stdInput = new BufferedReader(new          	     InputStreamReader(proc.getInputStream())); String s = null;         while ((s = stdInput.readLine()) != null) {        LOGGER.log(Level.FINE, " Sharath >> s "+s);    l
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[14:56:13] <Sharath> am I missing anything here ?
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[15:00:45] <danielbeck> Sharath All of that code uses the platform default encoding, and I don't know which that is. Try specifying encodings.
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[15:01:58] <ekarlso> danielbeck: so it's just as ok to just do the jenkins master as a deb instlal ?
[15:02:53] <danielbeck> ekarlso I don't know how to answer that. Are you afraid the container police will arrest you for not using Docker for everything? :-)
[15:03:14] <ekarlso> haha :P
[15:03:32] <ekarlso> danielbeck: I guess I like just the convenience of running it in a docke rcontainer :o
[15:03:41] <danielbeck> ekarlso then do that
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[15:04:18] <ekarlso> danielbeck: yeah, but then it's not easy to run the docker command in a pipeline by the looks
[15:04:38] <Sharath> @danielbeck - we want this plugin to run on around 13 languages... so if we specify specific encoding in code.. will that work on all locales ? In German where I am looking into this issue.. before I set the file.encoding to UTF-8, it displayed "c in circle" properly.. but when i set this property in jenkins.xml file it started to print as question mark in black diamond.. so I am not sure what specify encoding in code.. please sug
[15:04:41] <danielbeck> ekarlso seems like you should build a custom docker image then
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[15:05:16] <ekarlso> danielbeck: ya, I think you're right ;)
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[15:06:10] <Joe____> Hello, would someone be able to delete a bug I submitted to the Jenkins Jira site for me? I've been researching but appears most users don't have rights to delete their own bugs
[15:06:55] <Sharath> @danielbeck - correct character is ©  but after setting file.encoding to utf-8 it started printing � in console output.. so please suggest what encoding to set in code.. to work in all cases
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[15:07:36] <danielbeck> Sharath I don't know what the problem is. I recommend you start debugging the plugin to understand what's going on.
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[15:08:14] <Chetic> can I set environment variables in a declarative pipeline using the script step?
[15:08:14] <danielbeck> Joe____ What's the problem?
[15:11:00] <Joe____> I can't delete a bug that I submitted. Would you be able to do that on my behalf?
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[15:13:17] <danielbeck> Joe____ Again, what's the problem that "delete it" is your solution for?
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[15:13:47] <Joe____> My employer asked that I delete the bug I posted from the Jenkins Jira site
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[15:17:53] <Siecje> Is it possible to get the Mercurial repo when using the Mercurial Plugin?
[15:20:46] <danielbeck> Joe____ all issue descriptions are emailed to the jenkinsci-issues mailing list, so any private info is now definitely public. Deleting the issue is a waste of time.
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[15:31:19] <Joe____> Makes sense... Last try... Would it be possible for someone to delete it to make them happy? They weren't happy about what I posted
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[15:37:59] <ekarlso> when you use agent with dockerfile true do you need to do "steps" as well in the build stage?
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[15:43:08] <dragoonis> Jenkins 2.0 keeps executing my pipeline 'sh' commands in the @tmp directory .. which is *not* my ${WORKSPACE} directory ..
[15:43:17] <dragoonis> and the paths in my .sh scripts are messing up
[15:43:22] <dragoonis> how is everyone dealing with this ?
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[15:44:27] <jfemia> dragoonis: doesn't happen to me. can you paste a snippet that exhibits the problem to gist/pastebin/other?
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[15:45:53] <dragoonis> jfemia, the Jenkinsfile, when i execute any 'sh' command it Jenkins is dynamically making paths like this: "/var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Preview at tmp/durable-1edfd4f8/script dot sh"
[15:46:08] <dragoonis> it's wrapping my commands inside of script.sh
[15:46:10] <dragoonis> and executing it
[15:46:17] <danielbeck> dragoonis that's expected. What's the problem?
[15:46:47] <dragoonis> I'm using relative paths and such and it's messing with stuff ere
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[15:47:26] <dragoonis> it's getting the path of script.sh as the execution point, and not the path of my own .sh file
[15:47:32] <danielbeck> `pwd` should be the actual workspace though -- just don't make assumptions about $0
[15:47:39] <dragoonis> DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}" )" && pwd )"
[15:47:49] <dragoonis> in bash this is how I get the top level DIR of my script
[15:47:53] <dragoonis> and everything flows down from that
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[15:48:29] <jimklimov> dragoonis, Just recently I read a nice write-up about this dark PATH :)
[15:48:31] <jimklimov> http://www.ostricher.com/2014/10/the-right-way-to-get-the-directory-of-a-bash-script/
[15:48:44] <jimklimov> the simple ways are not always the right ones, it seems :)
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[15:49:10] <dragoonis> jimklimov, ;)
[15:49:51] <dragoonis> So I could do this instead?
[15:49:53] <dragoonis> DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "$0" )" && pwd )"
[15:50:43] <dragoonis> what's your recommendation? I want to get the path of by "runPipeline.sh" file, which is in ${WORKSPACE}/runPipeline.sh
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[15:51:01] <dragoonis> and not, which is what's currently happening, getting me /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Preview at tmp/durable-1edfd4f8/script dot sh
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[15:51:51] <ugglan> Is there a way to ignore commit triggers originating from Jenkins when using https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Bitbucket+Branch+Source+Plugin ? Right now I can end up in a build loop when Jenkins makes changes to my repository on BitBucket.
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[15:53:06] <dragoonis> danielbeck, pwd doesn't work, that just points to the ${WORKSPACE} path ..
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[15:53:19] <dragoonis> I need the path of my runPipeline.sh script that's being executed
[15:53:26] <jimklimov> dragoonis, Usually yes -- `DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "$0" )" && pwd )"` works for most shells, at least if your script in question is the directly executed one
[15:53:43] <dragoonis> which  is actually in ${WORKSPACE}/preview-ci-scripts/runPipeline.sh
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[15:54:13] <jimklimov> it may be problematic for sourced scripts ("included" into another script - e.g. BASH_SOURCE[1..more]) and scripts piped to shell interpreter's stdin
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[15:58:09] <danielbeck> jimklimov 'sh' does not source the user's script, but execute it
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[15:58:23] <dragoonis> jimklimov, your fix worked, thanks!
[15:58:34] <lpetre> jglick: I've updated ssh-agent to 1.14 but I'm having trouble spawning ssh-agent. I get  a CreateProcess error even though I'm confident the file exists and is in my PATH
[15:58:35] <lpetre> https://gist.github.com/lpetre/178f7c57ee1453bf0ce0d449e8e217a7
[15:59:54] <lpetre> I've added some of the output as comments to that gist
[16:00:15] <lpetre> would really appreciate any advice as to why it can't find the executable
[16:00:31] <lpetre> does withEnv apply to sshagent
[16:02:03] <dragoonis> Something else strange is happening now
[16:02:06] <dragoonis> AWS_TOKEN=$(aws ecr get-login --region eu-central-1)
[16:02:06] <dragoonis> eval ${AWS_TOKEN}
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[16:02:17] <jglick> lpetre: no idea offhand, sorry. Never tried it on Windows.
[16:02:47] <dragoonis> this happens at the top of my script .. then I sourced a film, and then when I "docker push" it gets permission denied .. This doesn't happen on the jenkins box in the shell, only when executed by the Jenkins pipeline plugin
[16:02:56] <dragoonis> s/film/file
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[16:03:10] <lpetre> jglick: thanks. I really wish I didn't have to run this on windows.
[16:03:21] <jglick> lpetre: check whether `bat 'sshagent -k'` works inside the `withEnv`
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[16:03:35] <lpetre> k
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[16:04:13] <ekarlso> danielbeck: any idea ?
[16:05:06] <lpetre> outside of withEnv I get: 'ssh-agent' is not recognized as an internal or external command
[16:05:13] <lpetre> within withEnv I get: SSH_AGENT_PID not set, cannot kill agent
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[16:13:12] <jglick> lpetre: so that part is fine
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[16:13:34] <danielbeck> ekarlso ?
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[16:17:49] <dragoonis> Hey! What's a good technique of (from my Jenkinsfile) commands triggering a deploy, of my artefact, on a remote QA server?
[16:18:02] <dragoonis> Jenkins box runs a build, pushes the artefact up to a repository
[16:18:11] <dragoonis> and then the QA server is to pull down the built code
[16:18:40] <dragoonis> the most basic form I can think of is, "ssh user@previewserver /home/user/triggerDeploy.sh ${BUILD_NUMBER}"
[16:19:05] <lpetre> jglick: I wish I knew how pipeline works. is it safe to assume that withEnv has changed the PATH that sshagent will use to launch the cmd?
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[16:22:02] <jglick> lpetre: I filed JENKINS-42346 from code inspection.
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[16:22:04] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-42346:Environment not considered by exec launcher (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-42346
[16:22:58] <lpetre> great, thanks
[16:23:05] <lpetre> I'll change PATH on the machine for now
[16:23:16] <jglick> lpetre: try that workaround. Not exactly a high priority for me to work on a fix, I am afraid.
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[16:23:45] <lpetre> np. would you be open to a PR?
[16:25:50] <hughsaunders> The swarm plugin on my Jenkins master seems to get downgraded on restart, any idea what may be causing that?
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[16:29:48] <hughsaunders> I'm installing 3.3, but it reverts to 1.26
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[16:30:22] <hughsaunders> so swarm.jpi contains v3.3, but swarm.hpi reappears containing 1.26
[16:30:30] <danielbeck> hughsaunders are you using a custom Jenkins distribution?
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[16:30:48] <hughsaunders> danielbeck: no, deployed by puppet but pretty standard
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[16:31:33] <hughsaunders> danielbeck: swarm plugin load fail stacktrace: https://gist.github.com/hughsaunders/f2e191e97bd46976e722a69748ef1cc0
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[16:32:01] <ekarlso> hmm, isnt it pipeline { agent { label:'has-docker' } } +
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[16:37:32] <hughsaunders> danielbeck: ahh, puppet is my culprit, deploying old version of plugin :(
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[16:40:49] <Guest12082> quick question, what is the release cycle for jenkins plugins like "mask-passwords-plugin"?
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[16:42:16] <danielbeck> Guest12082 Whenever the maintainer thinks a new release is warranted
[16:42:47] <dragoonis> [phase1] [0m[91m  - Installing elasticsearch/elasticsearch (v2.3.0)[0m[91m Downloading[0m[91m
[16:42:54] <dragoonis> I've installed the AnsiColor plugin
[16:42:58] <dragoonis> rebooted jenkins
[16:43:01] <dragoonis> and I still see color codes
[16:43:17] <danielbeck> dragoonis Did you configure AnsiColor for the job?
[16:43:21] <dragoonis> naw
[16:43:39] <dragoonis> so it's a Jenkinsfile, which makes "stages"
[16:44:16] <danielbeck> dragoonis https://jenkins.io/doc/pipeline/steps/ansicolor/#ansicolor-color-ansi-console-output
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[16:44:30] <dragoonis> fancy
[16:45:03] <dragoonis> that page just says; Type: string, i'm unsure which part of my Jenkinsfile to apply this string
[16:45:19] <dragoonis> can you please advise, daniel ?
[16:45:35] <danielbeck> dragoonis probably best to get it from the snippet generator -- some plugins' pipeline step docs are quite lacking
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[16:46:25] <dragoonis> yup, used it now
[16:46:30] <dragoonis> ansiColor('xterm') {
[16:46:30] <dragoonis>     // some block
[16:46:30] <dragoonis> }
[16:46:55] <t3rm> hi, I'm looking at maybe writing a plugin for JMeter functional testing respecting assertions. I can't seem to find anything like it currently - does anyone know if something like this exists?
[16:47:00] <dragoonis> do I have to wrap my entire pipeline code inside ansiColor() or is having that at the top of my Jenkinsfile enough ?
[16:47:05] <rpocase> dragoonis: If you're using declarative you can use ansiColor('xterm') in options {}
[16:47:09] <rtyler> t3rm: have you looked at the gatling plugin already?
[16:47:25] <rpocase> Not sure if there is an equivalent top level wrapper in classic pipeline
[16:47:25] <dragoonis> rpocase, can you show me an example of this? I learn good from reading code
[16:47:26] <rtyler> I think that's only useful for the gatling service though, but gatling takes jmeter plans
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[16:47:56] <rpocase> dragoonis: Sure, let me get a more concise gist
[16:48:15] <rtyler> dragoonis: https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/#options
[16:48:15] <danielbeck> t3rm https://plugins.jenkins.io/performance ?
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[16:48:46] <danielbeck> (haven't tried it, just recently saw it's related to JMeter, that's all I know)
[16:48:59] <rpocase> dragoonis: rtyler's link is as good as what I would've provided. Just throw the ansiColor('xterm') in an options block as shown in the example
[16:49:01] <t3rm> the performance plugin and gatling are focused on performance, but I'm interested in seeing results of assertions, to be used for functional tests
[16:49:17] <dragoonis> So it looks like I'm not using a declarative pipeline.. My Jenkinsfile is just like this
[16:49:18] <dragoonis> #!/usr/bin/env groovy
[16:49:18] <dragoonis> node {
[16:49:23] <dragoonis> ..
[16:49:31] <rtyler> correct
[16:49:34] <rtyler> that's a Scripted Pipeline
[16:49:42] <t3rm> the performance plugin seems to break if there are failed assertions (graphs cease to render)
[16:49:53] <rtyler> dragoonis: since I know you loves you some Blue Ocean, have you looked at the work on the Visual Editor recently?
[16:50:20] <dragoonis> I haven't touched BO for some time, but I'm back into full-time building pipelines for clients so getting back to BO is coming soon :)
[16:50:36] <dragoonis> I had to check out and take care of other things
[16:51:17] <rtyler> dragoonis: https://jenkins.io/blog/2017/02/24/blueocean-devlog-feb4/
[16:51:24] <rtyler> michaelneale and I have been posting those just for you! :)
[16:51:32] <dragoonis> +1
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[16:51:55] <rpocase> rtyler: Neat, looks like we'll install the visual editor tomorrow.
[16:52:08] <rtyler> it's in /preview/
[16:52:17] <rtyler> plz don't expect thinsg to be super polished right now
[16:52:23] <rtyler> kzantow is making more gooder by the day though
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[16:52:54] <rpocase> I'm pretty hype about all the recent progress in pipeline in general. Had an internal tech talk last month scheduled, but glad it got delayed so I can show off more future stuff
[16:53:03] <rtyler> hah
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[16:53:17] <dragoonis> strategy++
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[16:53:17] <rtyler> rpocase: can you share what company you work with? that's cool
[16:53:19] <svij> I just created my first pipeline with the editor and it's great so far
[16:53:27] <svij> atleast better than using that snippet generator
[16:53:28] <rpocase> rtyler: I'm at ADTRAN, Inc.
[16:54:13] <dragoonis> rtyler, back to declarative pipelines .. so I just done "New Item -> Pipeline" and then when in Configure, I enter stuff.
[16:54:16] <rpocase> Would be really surprised if anyone knew about us unless you happen to be/have been in the telecom space :)
[16:54:30] <Slide-O-Mix> rtyler: looks nice
[16:54:34] <rtyler> dragoonis: indeed!
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[16:54:47] <rtyler> a Declarative pipeline is read with pipeline { }
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[16:54:52] <rtyler> make sure you have Pipeline 2.5 or later
[16:55:02] <dragoonis> can I just do pipeline { .. } in my Configure box ?
[16:55:06] <dragoonis> and it becomes declarative ?
[16:55:36] <rtyler> yarp
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[16:56:29] <rtyler> rpocase: if you're in Huntsville, unfortunately there isn't a Jenkins Meetup there https://www.meetup.com/pro/jenkins/
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[16:56:41] <rtyler> it'd be cool to see what you folks have been working on at a meetup though
[16:57:00] <rpocase> rtyler: Yep, looks like the closest meetup with be Atlanta
[16:57:17] <mikkeloscar> Hello, anyone know how to setup a job with the Github Integration Plugin? I'm following this guide: https://github.com/KostyaSha/github-integration-plugin/blob/master/docs/Configuration.adoc but the build fails: http://sprunge.us/YSUY
[16:57:20] <Guest12082> ping +oleg-nenashev
[16:57:23] <rpocase> s/with/would
[16:58:25] <rtyler> rpocase: isn't ADTRAM that company that hires Ada developers in Huntsville?
[16:59:03] <rpocase> rtyler: Not that I'm aware of. Haven't heard of anyone using Ada here
[16:59:14] <rtyler> heh
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[16:59:47] <rtyler> there's some shop in huntsville that works on Apache helo software that's been hiring Ada devs lately
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[17:01:06] <rpocase> Lots of DOD contract work here, so there's plenty of potential companies that could be working on that
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[17:01:40] <rtyler> ALSO SPACE CAMP
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[17:03:34] <rpocase> Space camp sounded way more exciting 15 years ago. Now that I know people that work there it sounds possibly awful
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[17:03:47] <rpocase> I geuss it depends on your primary...camp guides? Idk what you call them :)
[17:04:18] <rtyler> rpocase: or 11 year olds, it's brilliant ^_^
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[17:06:41] <batmat> oleg-nenashev: technically on https://github.com/jenkinsci/versioncolumn-plugin/pull/1 it should have been a :-1: ;-) because it was done during the WE :D
[17:06:58] <batmat> but thanks a lot for the review, will try to have a look this evening, not sure though
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[17:10:52] <dragoonis> Can someone help me figure out what the options {} code should be to enable ansiColor plugin ?
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[17:11:39] <rtyler> dragoonis: based on the snippet generator's output, I would assume: options { ansicolor('vt100') } would be sufficient
[17:11:48] <rtyler> based on what I see for the timeout() wrapper
[17:11:50] <rtyler> in the docs
[17:11:52] <rtyler> that I wrote
[17:11:53] <rtyler> <_<
[17:11:54] <rtyler> >_>
[17:11:55] <dragoonis> right. that makes sense.
[17:12:02] <dragoonis> testing
[17:12:36] <Naktibalda> where could I find documentation of options thing?
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[17:13:10] <Naktibalda> I used wrap([$class: 'AnsiColorBuildWrapper', 'colorMapName': 'XTerm']) { }   to get ansi colors
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[17:13:39] <rtyler> Naktibalda: are you using the Scripted or Declarative Pipeline syntax?
[17:13:47] <rtyler> I would assume Scripted from that snippet
[17:14:15] <Naktibalda> I don't even know what Declarative syntax is, so I will look it up
[17:15:28] <rtyler> heh
[17:15:36] <rtyler> Scripted Pipeline doesn't have `options{}`
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[17:16:08] <dragoonis> I'm trying to move to Declarative
[17:16:09] <dragoonis> WorkflowScript: 3: Undefined section "node" @ line 3, column 1.
[17:16:09] <dragoonis>    pipeline {
[17:16:09] <dragoonis>    ^
[17:16:23] <rtyler> Naktibalda: https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/ and https://jenkins.io/blog/2017/02/03/declarative-pipeline-ga/ are relevant to your interest
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[17:16:57] <dragoonis> this is the structure of me Jenkinsfile - https://gist.github.com/dragoonis/08b5b4ed07074843d159058fe5540675
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[17:17:31] <rtyler> remove lines 1 and 2
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[17:21:26] <Naktibalda> rtyler: thank you
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[17:22:13] <dragoonis> rtyler, this is my jenkinsfile, it's complaining about structural issue now
[17:22:13] <dragoonis> https://gist.github.com/dragoonis/c59f4bc46965dd19af426ec1c0564be6
[17:22:26] <dragoonis>  Not a valid section definition: "env.WORKSPACE = pwd()".
[17:22:33] <dragoonis> latest error ^
[17:22:35] <rtyler> dragoonis: 8-11
[17:22:38] <rtyler> no es bueno
[17:22:41] <Naktibalda> use environment {} block :)
[17:22:42] <abayer> dragoonis: Yeah, https://gist.github.com/dragoonis/c59f4bc46965dd19af426ec1c0564be6#file-gistfile1-txt-L8-L11 isn't valid Declarative syntax.
[17:22:58] <dragoonis> Naktibalda, noted.
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[17:23:05] <rtyler> https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/jenkinsfile/#working-with-the-environment
[17:23:21] <rtyler> dragoonis: fwiw the entire Pipeline chapter of the handbook was updated for Declarative :)
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[17:23:24] <dragoonis> i like declarative more - it's useful to learn how to do it this way
[17:23:37] <abayer> Though the env var references may not work yet - https://github.com/jenkinsci/pipeline-model-definition-plugin/pull/110 is on its way, but not in yet.
[17:24:38] <abayer> And then https://gist.github.com/dragoonis/c59f4bc46965dd19af426ec1c0564be6#file-gistfile1-txt-L15-L37 isn't valid either - that should be in a parameters {} block at the top level (and is simpler), https://gist.github.com/dragoonis/c59f4bc46965dd19af426ec1c0564be6#file-gistfile1-txt-L39 isn't right, etc. =)
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[17:25:56] <dragoonis> okay, reading about parameters block
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[17:31:06] <dragoonis> WorkflowScript: 21: Unknown stage section "sh". Starting with version 0.5, steps in a stage must be in a steps block. @ line 21, column 9.
[17:31:39] <dragoonis> i see how to do it
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[17:33:10] <rtyler> :)
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[17:34:59] <dragoonis> round and round we go
[17:35:00] <dragoonis> WorkflowScript: 28: Expected a stage @ line 28, column 9.
[17:35:00] <dragoonis>            parallel (
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[17:35:24] <dragoonis> looks like Declarative wants me to do parallel inside of a step
[17:35:37] <dragoonis> that's not what I have here (in the jenkinsfile scripted format) I have parallel steps being executed
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[17:35:50] <rtyler> parallel is /weird/ in declarative right now, which is why I didn't explicitly document it in the Handbook
[17:35:56] <dragoonis> s/step/stage
[17:35:58] <rtyler> abayer has a ticket to make parallel more declarativey
[17:36:05] <abayer> I do.
[17:36:10] <dragoonis>  \o. abayer
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[17:36:23] <dragoonis> I have a client deadline due today, we have 4 stages running in parallel right now (non-declarative atm)
[17:36:25] <dragoonis> :P
[17:36:31] <dragoonis> what are my options
[17:36:50] <abayer> Probably not go with declarative at the moment if you need parallel stages, since we don't do that in declarative yet. =)
[17:37:33] <dragoonis> i didn't realise, and I also didn't actually show that in my gist examples to rtyler so it's kinda my fault
[17:37:33] <dragoonis> at least I learned how to do declarative tho :)
[17:37:33] * dragoonis does massive CTRL+Z
[17:38:03] <rtyler> "It's Just That Easy(tm)"
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[17:38:53] <abayer> The main hangup getting parallel stage definitions in is getting Blue Ocean to figure out exactly how to visualize parallel stage execution - once that's nailed down (hopefully in the next couple weeks), parallel stages in Declarative will happen pretty quickly.
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[17:39:25] <dragoonis> are you intentionally blocking it so make sure it's in BO from day 1 ?
[17:39:33] <dragoonis> coz it could be in non-BO installs
[17:39:53] <abayer> It's more the other way around - they're blocking me from doing it 'cos they don't want Declarative to do anything that can't be visualized in BO. =)
[17:40:02] <abayer> But regardless, it's a high priority.
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[17:40:29] <dragoonis> abayer, what's the hangup on the BO side? you can visualise the parallel stages, like you do now ?
[17:40:36] <dragoonis> would like to know what the challenge it .
[17:40:41] <dragoonis> s/it/is
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[17:40:45] <abayer> dragoonis: Design stuff. *shrug*
[17:40:51] <dragoonis> XD
[17:40:54] <abayer> I am not a UI person, so… =)
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[17:44:24] <alexz__> Hi folks. i'm trying to use Jenkinsfile + parameters passed with pipeline. and i found that button 'Build with parameters' not active before first run :( if theare any option to render it w\o job run ?
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[17:45:24] <Slide-O-Mix> The problem is that Jenkins doesn't know anything about your Jenkisnfile until it runs it once
[17:46:03] <dragoonis> alexz__, i've tried dude.. you gotta build your pipeline once, so it gets parsed and sets up the pipeline
[17:46:21] <dragoonis> what's the problem with running the pipeline once ?
[17:46:21] <abayer> Correct.
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[17:48:15] <alexz__> @dragoonis okay :( the problem is only in time- before migrating to pipeline i use curl-trigger to test, so it was much waster then run => click un UI (of cource, thats tru only for jenkinsfile- development)
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[17:49:27] <jglick> alexz__: Slide-O-Mix: JENKINS-41929
[17:49:29] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41929:Offer "Build with Parameters" on first build when declarative Jenkinsfile found (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41929
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[17:50:31] <Slide-O-Mix> +1
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[17:53:44] <dragoonis> Right.. ansiColor plugin ..
[17:53:51] <dragoonis> i stop seeing the color codes on the HTML UI
[17:53:57] <dragoonis> but i don't actually see any HTML hex colours :P
[17:54:16] <dragoonis> i tried ansiColor('xterm') and ansiColor('t100')
[17:54:24] <dragoonis> i tried ansiColor('xterm') and ansiColor('vt100')
[17:54:44] <rpocase> abayer: If I'm reading 110 right, that would allow me to reference environment {} vars as "${VAR}" or "${env.VAR}" (plus single string variants)?
[17:55:07] <rtyler> dragoonis: does the script you're running optionally disable color outputs without an appropriate $TERM?
[17:55:11] <rpocase> Mostly making sure that isn't going to be a backwards incompatible change (which sounds like no since its targeting 1.10)
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[17:55:31] <dragoonis> rtyler, i've not told it to disable colours or anything
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[17:55:38] <dragoonis> i'm running default jenkins 2.0
[17:55:41] <dragoonis> on debian jessie
[17:55:45] <abayer> rpocase: It'd add "${VAR}" - not 100% sure on "${env.VAR}" off the top of my head, though.
[17:56:11] <dragoonis> rtyler, my own personal script does nothing with TERM or colours
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[17:57:40] <abayer> rpocase: I don't *think* "${env.VAR}" would work, 'cos we're using Jenkins' env var cross-resolution logic, which isn't aware of "${env.VAR}".
[17:58:20] <rpocase> abayer: Gotcha. I guess it may or may not be 2.x depending on if env.VAR was even considered public. I'll just need to make sure to publicize whenever we update either way
[17:58:35] <rpocase> We still don't have a ton of pipeline (especially declarative) adoption, but I'm making progress on that front
[17:59:09] <abayer> rpocase: So I believe if env.VAR works currently, env.VAR would continue to work.
[17:59:33] <rpocase> abayer: K. I'm mostly referring to a stage context. I wouldn't expect it to work in a environment context
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[17:59:58] <abayer> rpocase: Oh, there'll be no change at all to how you can reference env vars in stage(…) { steps { … } }
[18:00:08] <abayer> Solely in defining env vars in environment { }
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[18:00:57] <rpocase> Ahhh, ok. Good deal
[18:01:43] <davehunt> abayer: you may be the person to ask.. is is possible to reference a global env var from environment() section, or to cross-reference within en environment() section?
[18:02:04] <abayer> davehunt: https://github.com/jenkinsci/pipeline-model-definition-plugin/pull/110 will enable exactly that. =)
[18:02:23] <davehunt> abayer: w00t
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[18:07:01] <rtyler> oh hey it's davehunt
[18:07:09] <davehunt> hey rtyler :)
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[18:30:54] <valdegeek> Howdy folks.  Still somewhat learning jenkins and scripted pipelines.  I have a multi-branch pipeline project and, from that Jenkinsfile, I want to start a new job (using build job:) using the exact same SCM (with branch, revision, etc) from its upstream job. It would be awesome if I could pass the scm object via a parameter. Any ideas how I can do this?
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[18:38:54] <Naktibalda> what is the CLI command to lint a Jenkinsfile?
[18:39:33] <rpocase> valdegeek: I believe the snippet generator (jenkins.domain.com/pipeline-syntax or jenkins.domain.com/job/JOB_NAME/pipeline-syntax) will help you generate the right call. However, I'd question why you're trying to trigger a job via the same git repo. Why not just put that directly in the pipeline?
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[18:40:02] <abayer> Naktibalda: ssh -p [sshd port on master] [Jenkins master hostname] declarative-linter < Jenkinsfile
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[18:40:30] <teilo> Naktibalda: declarative-linker - but go to ${jenkins_url}/cli and you will see all cli commadns available to you
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[18:41:29] <Naktibalda> I havel looked at Configuration and SSHD port is not configured
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[18:44:39] <valdegeek> rpocase: Our repo contains 18 modules (can't be split up into separate repos- not my choice) that need to be built in parallel, each with their own stages of test/build etc.  I can do this in the Jenkinsfile but, the logs and views are too messy. And without stages, I lose granularity of what's happening.
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[18:45:39] <rpocase> valdegeek: If you've got parallel, you at least get granularity into each module build, but if a lot is happening you do lose a lot. There are open issues for "inner stages", which would help that issue
[18:45:47] <rpocase> Totally understandable why you'd take that approach, though
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[18:46:26] <rpocase> well, you can get granularity if you're also using blue ocean. Classic jenkins doesn't do a good job of splitting up visibility for parallel steps
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[18:46:48] <valdegeek> Yeah, just wish I could get it to build out as jobs :/  Do you know if the scm variable can be serialized?
[18:47:10] <threadwaste> hey, all. quick question, is there any documentation citing how to use the docker pipeline workflow stuff w/ declarative?
[18:47:15] <valdegeek> Does Blue Ocean support scripted pipelines or just declarative?
[18:47:16] <threadwaste> other than putting script blocks everywhere
[18:47:22] <rpocase> valdegeek: supports both, afaik
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[18:47:47] <abayer> threadwaste: You mean not just using containers for the agents?
[18:48:23] <threadwaste> abayer: nah, we use swarm there. talking about building + withRun() build steps.
[18:48:28] <valdegeek> thx rpocase- I guess I'll give blue ocean a shot
[18:48:49] <abayer> threadwaste: Gotcha. Yeah, as of now, script blocks is what you gotta do. We're thinking on how to make this work better.
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[18:50:41] <randomhack> anyone using splunk integration?  we're having issues trying to get anything to show up in the dashboard other than health and slaves - we've created a jenkins_build index and are sending build-events there, but the dashboard is looking under jenkins_statistics and shows nothing
[18:50:53] <threadwaste> abayer: awesome, thanks for the confirmation.
[18:51:03] <threadwaste> script blocks aren't a big deall -- just don't want to overlook anything rn.
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[18:51:12] <threadwaste> any place to contribute use cases/thoughts?
[18:51:19] <threadwaste> we're deep down that rabbit hole, might be able to offer some thoughts
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[18:54:13] <abayer> threadwaste: Feel free to open a JIRA - input would definitely be useful.
[18:54:54] <martinda> oleg-nenashev: does google share reasons for not accepting the application?
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[18:55:12] <threadwaste> abayer: sounds good. we'll get some thoughts together. :)
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[18:55:25] <abayer> thanks!
[18:55:25] <oleg-nenashev> martinda: AFAIK no
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[18:56:22] <rtyler> martinda: I have some information passed through the grape vine
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[18:58:07] <oleg-nenashev> rtyler: Could you share it with org admins?
[18:58:37] <rtyler> that's the plan
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[18:58:45] <rtyler> busy listening to a little video :)
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[19:02:46] <Naktibalda> I am converting my Jenkinsfile to Declarative syntax and it complains about every parameter in publishHTML([allowMissing: false, alwaysLinkToLastBuild: false, keepAll: false, reportDir: 'tests/_output/', reportFiles: 'report.html', reportName: 'HTML Report'])
[19:02:53] <Naktibalda> what should I do about it?
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[19:03:20] <abayer> Naktibalda: https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41456
[19:03:21] <Naktibalda> WorkflowScript: 46: Invalid parameter "allowMissing", did you mean "target"? @ line 46, column 30.
[19:03:24] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41456:Declarative: publishHTML syntax does not work in post block (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41456
[19:03:53] <abayer> Look at the bottom of the description - there's a workaround
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[19:05:41] <Naktibalda> thanks
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[19:06:20] <myoung34> i just realized all my branches in the new jenkins scm 2 stuff (github org etc) are huge on the master because it's pulling down the whole repo
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[19:06:56] <myoung34> node('ec2') { stage('Checkout') { checkout scm }}
[19:07:08] <myoung34> is there a way to do a shallow clone?
[19:07:34] <myoung34> i tried checkout scm { shallowClone true } but i got Scripts not permitted to use method groovy.lang.GroovyObject invokeMethod java.lang.String java.lang.Object
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[19:07:46] <myoung34> i'm having a hard time finding examples of usage anywhere
[19:08:08] <myoung34> and my master is using up a ton of disk space: 12G     /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/
[19:08:50] <tang^> ouch
[19:09:04] <myoung34> each branch ends up being ~175mb
[19:09:20] <ahuang> myoung34: if you use the snippet generator theres an option for it if you pick additional behaviors > advanced clone behavior
[19:09:55] <myoung34> yea but it ends up generating a ton of other scm related fluff to get there so i wanted to ask here first =\
[19:10:14] <myoung34> let me try again, i actually got pulled away and forgot i was attempting to do that before i hopped on irc
[19:10:28] <tang^> yeah, it does that
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[19:11:31] <myoung34> it generates checkout([$class: 'GitSCM', branches: [[name: '*']], doGenerateSubmoduleConfigurations: false, extensions: [[$class: 'CloneOption', depth: 0, noTags: false, reference: '', shallow: true]], submoduleCfg: [], userRemoteConfigs: [[credentialsId: 'ba5956cc-4bdf-4c88-a9d0-49c56adb435c', url: 'https://github.com/org/repo.git']]])
[19:11:42] <myoung34> and i dont feel like dealing with credential ids for one =\
[19:11:43] <tang^> [$class: 'CloneOption', noTags: false, reference: '', shallow: true]] is the part you're interested in
[19:12:00] <tang^> you might be able to get away with just: checkout ([$class: 'CloneOption', noTags: false, reference: '', shallow: true]])
[19:12:06] <myoung34> let me try that
[19:12:12] <tang^> oops, one too many ]
[19:12:18] <myoung34> where do i put `scm` ?
[19:12:27] <myoung34> that's the real syntax sugar i want and need right?
[19:12:57] <myoung34> since it's github orgs thats the shortcut to the scm stuff defined at the top level, i need it for sure
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[19:15:02] <Anticlaus> So, I've asked this before, but I must've misunderstood the answer - for GitHub Organization Folder plugin, and I guess more specifically for github-branch-source plugin, is there any way to securely specify that it ought to use master's Jenkinsfile to build? Or perhaps require admin input before building PRs with Jenkinsfile changes?
[19:15:49] <tang^> myoung34: I'm not sure about that
[19:15:51] <myoung34> Anticlaus is it a public or private repo
[19:16:04] <Anticlaus> Private
[19:16:11] <myoung34> jenkinsfile is trusted on private repos, i've actually fought for that
[19:16:17] <myoung34> there's some talk about configuring it
[19:16:32] <myoung34> on forks it trusts only the upstream one
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[19:17:02] <Anticlaus> I had somebody with read-only perms on the repo fork it and make a PR from the fork, it used the PR's jenkinsfile
[19:17:04] <myoung34> https://github.com/jenkinsci/github-branch-source-plugin/pull/109
[19:17:17] <myoung34> if they're a contributor it trusts them
[19:17:23] <myoung34> JENKINS-41522
[19:17:25] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41522:There is some good stuff in PR#109 that is extra from JENKINS-40652 and should be considered (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41522
[19:17:32] <myoung34> errr not that one
[19:17:43] <myoung34> JENKINS-40652
[19:17:45] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-40652:origin pr builds not treated as trusted (Closed) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-40652
[19:17:56] <myoung34> and JENKINS-37931
[19:17:58] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-37931:PR build can use PR's head/merge Jenkinsfile insted of master branch. (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-37931
[19:18:26] <myoung34> tang^  that's the only thing i care about in addition to shallow =(
[19:18:57] <tang^> myoung34: scm may be implied if you get specific... would have to test
[19:19:05] <myoung34> ill see what i find
[19:19:34] <tang^> I should look in to shallow clones as well... my repos aren't nearly as big as yours though
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[19:20:29] <myoung34> if you have a few branches it adds up
[19:20:33] <myoung34> even if it's only a fraction
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[19:22:47] <Anticlaus> Hmm.
[19:22:55] <Anticlaus> > < myoung34> if they're a contributor it trusts them
[19:23:11] <Anticlaus> A contributor to the repo? Because the person I had test is not, they have 0 commits on the repo
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[19:23:25] <myoung34> listed as a contributor on github
[19:23:31] <myoung34> its a special per-repo thing
[19:23:42] <myoung34> you can have an org with memebers but you can also have 'contributors'
[19:23:50] <myoung34> not contributors as in made a commit
[19:23:55] <Anticlaus> Is it in the repo settings?
[19:24:01] <Anticlaus> Or org settings?
[19:24:19] <myoung34> crap
[19:24:21] <myoung34> collaborator
[19:24:23] <myoung34> im sorry
[19:24:37] <myoung34> co.*r
[19:24:55] <myoung34> add `/settings/collaboration`
[19:24:56] <Anticlaus> Oh, ok. I added him as a read-only collaborator so that he could see the repo to fork it... I guess that automatically made him trusted
[19:25:06] <myoung34> to the end of your repo webpage
[19:25:10] <myoung34> yea
[19:25:15] <Anticlaus> Welp. :/
[19:25:16] <myoung34> there's discussion on all that
[19:25:22] <myoung34> so feel free to add to those tickets
[19:25:36] <myoung34> but it's better to overly trust on private repos IMO until there are checkboxes/toggles
[19:25:46] <myoung34> because that was a show stopper to not be able to even merge Jenkinsfiles
[19:25:49] <Anticlaus> Checkboxes/toggles are really what I'm looking for
[19:26:15] <myoung34> jglick and stephenc helped me a lot on those tickets but they're prob pretty busy, not sure if there are updates to what that stuff means
[19:26:41] <Anticlaus> I'm fine with being overly permissive for the moment, I don't think that anybody in my org is a bad actor, but I'd like at least a bit of sanity in case somebody doesn't know what they're doing.
[19:27:12] <myoung34> you could add a git hook (gate)
[19:27:20] <myoung34> if Jenkinsfile from not these users
[19:27:26] <Anticlaus> Yeah, I was considering that
[19:27:40] <Anticlaus> I've already got a service stood up to listen to PR closes
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[19:44:50] <myoung34> interesting...
[19:45:04] <myoung34> tang^ it turns out that only affects the clone on my slave. which isn't the issue
[19:45:13] <myoung34> the problem is that my `master` is using up all that space
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[19:45:28] <myoung34> even though `checkout scm` is inside my `node('ec2')` block
[19:45:36] <myoung34> ec2 is the ec2 slave, not the master
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[19:45:57] <myoung34> so i have no clue why the master is even checking out the repo on every single branch
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[19:52:25] <tang^> you using a Jenkinsfile in the repo?
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[19:52:57] <myoung34> yea
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[19:53:45] <tang^> might have to configure the job to shallow clone.... master will clone the repo to get the Jenkinsfile, then act on the contents
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[19:54:28] <myoung34> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/bmZqN6-Mciz-oPhGuf1aKV5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
[19:54:52] <myoung34> job is a branch, i dont see that option anywhere
[19:55:13] <myoung34> i can only specify it on the jenkinsfile, not on the github org or anywhere
[19:55:27] <myoung34> which if it's on the jenkinsfile, it's too late, master has already done  aclone
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[19:57:28] <tang^> yeah
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[19:59:14] <Ephreal> hi can anyone tell me why an excessive file transfer in a shell in a jenkins job can lead to Jenkins GC failing with a memory overflow ?
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[19:59:45] <tang^> java logging the transfer results?
[20:00:55] <Ephreal> nope
[20:01:20] <Ephreal> well nothing in the console log in the job about it
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[20:01:27] <Ephreal> do not know of any other logging
[20:02:10] <Ephreal> problem arisies when the app is done executing .. the app it self uses 3.5GB when running. no meme increase
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[20:02:40] <Ephreal> however when the job was done the GC wwould lock down jenkins for 20 min and crash with a memory overflow having used 6.5GB
[20:04:21] <Ephreal> it was an oversigt in my app that cause it to copy the same files to the same location every time the method was execute. and its execute alot
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[20:04:43] <myoung34> i created JENKINS-42351
[20:04:45] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-42351:Shallow clone on master when running job across slaves (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-42351
[20:04:54] <Ephreal> after i inserted a check on if the files was already there the GC problem went away
[20:06:10] <Ephreal> my app is a python app using shutil.copy to copy the files
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[20:08:10] <bz> My production Jenkins server went down unexpectedly 2 hours ago with proxy giving 503 errors
[20:08:28] <bz> I don't see anything in the normal logs that points to an error
[20:08:50] <bz> on trying to restart it would pause at "Please wait while Jenkins is getting ready to work" forever
[20:09:22] <bz> Im Jenkins ver. 2.19.4
[20:09:39] <tang^> that's a little outdated but shouldn't be an issue
[20:09:56] <bz> with blue ocean plugin among lots of others installed
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[20:10:40] <bz> tang was trying to stick to LTS
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[20:11:01] <tang^> bz: LTS is currently 2.32.2
[20:12:16] <bz> yup need to upgrade but can't disrupt
[20:12:27] <bz> anything in between you think could be the issue?
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[20:13:22] <tang^> possibly just a long restart in the cards?
[20:13:48] <bz> waited over 5 minutes for it to restart before I rebooted machine
[20:14:10] <myoung34> i have that issue sometimes with CPU/mem
[20:14:16] <myoung34> on ec2 with t2 type
[20:14:26] <myoung34> if it gets hammered it can go down and nginx gives a 503
[20:14:48] <myoung34> i upped my health check to give it longer to respond and bounced jenkins
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[20:15:06] <myoung34> today it happened the worst and htop showed both cores at 100%
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[20:15:18] <bz> im ec2 also but its a big box with Jenkins getting 8 GB
[20:15:18] <myoung34> just check your specs and see if that indicates anything
[20:15:40] <bz> I don't see lots of requests in proxy access logs
[20:15:55] <myoung34> cpu/mem got some space?
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[20:17:29] <bz> when it wasn't coming up top was showing space on CPU/mem
[20:17:44] <bz> load avg 1.2 and lots of free mem
[20:18:04] <bz> I checked for deadlocked processes with jstack and it did not show any
[20:18:22] <bz> can't tell what was happening before crash
[20:18:48] <bz> Monitor wasn't storing historical stats but I've just set that up
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[20:20:02] <bz> any logs besides jenkins.log if it had issues pre crash? Don't see anything abnormal in there
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[20:37:43] <benstein> The build timeout plugin isn't applicable in pipelines. However, the timeout step doesn't have elastic timeout. Is there an easy way to get elastic timeout support in pipeline?
[20:38:05] <ekarlso> should the scm directory not be present in the directory you run "sh" in inside steps ?
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[20:38:57] <ekarlso> this /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/<job name> is empty
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[21:03:59] <sobersabre> hi. is it possible that global parameters are available only inside node() { } ?
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[21:04:30] <sobersabre> trying to use them to set parameter defaults, but it doesn't work (Getting 'null')
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[21:08:37] <dragoonis> good evening! :)
[21:08:59] <sobersabre> good evening.
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[21:12:37] <myoung34> who would i assign a github-branches related ticket to?
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[21:12:59] <myoung34> the person basically just closed it as help requested and unassigned themself when i reopened it with more detail
[21:13:39] <myoung34> or do they typically stay unassigned and use components for sorting
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[21:14:28] <sobersabre> myoung34: usually jira is set up to assign on default assignee given project+component
[21:14:39] <tang^> myoung34: you watch the video referenced?
[21:14:55] <myoung34> a 2 hour video on how to jenkins doesn't answer my specific question =(
[21:15:22] <tang^> myoung34: the stuff he referenced is right at the start
[21:15:29] <tang^> I'm at 10 minutes in and most of his suggestions look good
[21:16:04] <myoung34> i'll look but i'm typically not happy about someone linking a 2 hour video to a ticket that i open as a bug
[21:16:26] <tang^> of course... it was mentioned that the relevant parts are right at the beginning of the video
[21:16:34] <myoung34> feels like a canned response and i dont have time to justify watching 2 hours of video at work so i can't get 10 minutes in
[21:16:55] <myoung34> yea it s more about my boss walking over and seeing me on youtube when im trying to polish off a specific ticket
[21:16:55] <tang^> the two hours covers four topics
[21:17:16] <myoung34> i get that, i'm not saying im not wrong, im just saying when i click a link and it says 2 hours im prob gonna close it
[21:17:22] <tang^> he's finished at 11 minutes
[21:17:29] <myoung34> alright let me give a glance
[21:17:45] <tang^> "why are you watching this video" "the maintainer of the git-plugin said he covered my questions in the first 10 minutes"
[21:18:14] <myoung34> i can watch it, i just typically dont watch videos. just not my thing
[21:18:24] <myoung34> im wrong now, but i wasnt gonna watch it
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[21:18:35] <tang^> yeah, I'd much prefer to read a writeup on the topic than watch
[21:19:22] <tang^> I definitely have to look into this reference repo
[21:21:35] <myoung34> well for starters this isn't available per github-branches-api
[21:21:42] <myoung34> attached ss to that ticket
[21:22:12] <myoung34> two it's even less useful since i'm building on slaves that come up and down (ec2 plugin)
[21:22:29] <Siecje> I'm reading this about the new https://jenkins.io/blog/2017/01/17/scm-api-2/ because of the new branch plugin. It says to use Mercurial plugin > 2.x but that version doesn't exist https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Mercurial+Plugin
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[21:23:22] <tang^> yes and no... you can stash from master, unstash from your ec2 node
[21:23:23] <tang^> so it doesn't even need the checkout
[21:23:34] <myoung34> Siecje it might have something to do from https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41234
[21:23:37] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41234:SCM API 2.0 Upgrade Fallout (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41234
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[21:25:04] <myoung34> if i put in my Jenkinsfile to stash from the master, it's still cloned the whole repo, or i've somehow via SSH made a directory and cloned my repo to use as a reference
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[21:25:26] <myoung34> there's literally no UI checkbox anywhere to clone using the jenkins git credentials any repo
[21:25:37] <myoung34> because im using the github org/github branches plugins
[21:25:59] <myoung34> this is where i'm saying it's a bug, that i can't control this behavior
[21:26:12] <myoung34> im just coming up with a way to deal with it
[21:26:45] <tang^> of course
[21:26:48] <_alex> Is there any documented workaround to get "Build when a change is pushed to Bitbucket" to work with pipeline jobs instead of freestyle?
[21:26:51] <myoung34> i could just as easily write a cron to rm -rf all the branch dirs at midnight on the master and i'd be able to keep chugging along =\
[21:27:31] <rpocase> Siecje: Based on latest changes in github for the mercurial integration, I think you want 1.58
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[21:27:45] <Siecje> rpocase: yeah I think the blog post is confusing/wrong
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[21:27:58] <rpocase> That being said, I'm also not a maintainer
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[21:28:30] <rpocase> Definitely seems wrong. They have have been going for "mercurial using SCM 2.0.x", but thats would've been weird since everything else specifically references plugin version
[21:28:35] <rpocase> At least for the plugins I cared about upgrading
[21:29:05] <myoung34> 2.0.x was because they released all the 2.0 rewrite then had to pull it
[21:29:11] <myoung34> so it's kinda wrong, but not
[21:30:02] <rpocase> myoung34: I think the wrong portion is that mercurial literally doesn't have a 2.0.x version (and never has). It supported SCM API 2.0.x starting in 1.58
[21:30:06] <dragoonis> What techniques are you folks using to connect to remote servers and trigger deploys? (Like to a QA server).
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[21:30:22] <myoung34> ohhhh ok
[21:30:28] <myoung34> i see what you mean. then yea
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[21:30:40] <myoung34> same with a few other plugins that are in maintenance mode i think
[21:30:54] <myoung34> dragoonis that's kind of a broad stroke
[21:30:57] <tang^> dragoonis: freestyle or pipeline?
[21:31:07] <myoung34> what do you mean "connecto to remote" servers and what do you mean "trigger"?
[21:31:20] <batmat> danielbeck: I think we discussed that in the past once or twice: https://github.com/jenkinsci/versioncolumn-plugin/pull/1 (JVM version node monitor)
[21:31:21] <myoung34> for example i use a chat bot in slack to trigger, and to connect i do things via the aws cli (boto3)
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[21:31:22] <tang^> I use a sharp stick aimed at my deployment guy
[21:31:25] <dragoonis> tang^, i'm using a pipeline (Jenkinsfile) to execute my bash scripts.
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[21:31:42] <myoung34> my repo has a Jenkinsfile with a param IS_DEPLOY
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[21:32:05] <myoung34> !deploy staging master tells the bot to run http://ci/myorg/myrepo/master with param IS_DEPLOY=true
[21:32:19] <tang^> nice
[21:32:23] <dragoonis> myoung34, well. I have a QA server, and at a basic level is can run a remote SSH command on the QA server, from the Jenkins master, and trigger a bash script to perform the deploy
[21:32:25] <myoung34> which runs the jenkinsfile for that branch and runs the deploy in that check
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[21:32:32] <tang^> I'd like to do that with my stuff
[21:32:34] <myoung34> you could use fabric
[21:32:39] <myoung34> or ansible
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[21:32:44] <dragoonis> I've used Ansible before.
[21:32:45] <myoung34> i like chatops to be a thin wrapper for CI
[21:32:51] <dragoonis> but it's not verbose enough
[21:32:59] <myoung34> so that if its down you can go to jenkins and deploy
[21:33:16] <myoung34> ironically my jenkinsfile inside the if is_deploy() portion just runs `fab deploy_webserver:staging`
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[21:33:30] <tang^> myoung34: got a video on that setup?
[21:33:30] <myoung34> so if ci AND chat are down and you have aws creds you can run that
[21:33:32] * tang^ ducks
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[21:33:38] <myoung34> nah im' still setting it up
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[21:33:52] <myoung34> i dont mind being verbose on it though
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[21:34:09] <myoung34> basically chatops uses the openstack python-jenkins module to run ci stuff, and boto for aws specific stuff
[21:34:29] <myoung34> my CI jenkinsfile is still heavily specific but then fabric.py just has a task to do it
[21:35:18] <Furai> Hey, what would be the best practice to deploy simple html/js website on a slave?
[21:35:38] <dragoonis> myoung34, i'm looking at fabric to see.
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[21:36:24] <tang^> myoung34: okay, chatops looks like a descriptor rather than a specific tool... what are you using for the slack end?
[21:36:34] <dragoonis> Fabric looks like Ansible, except it's in python, really.
[21:36:41] <myoung34> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/mATxtfeJsmaz3Pn6UX7aO15M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
[21:36:48] <myoung34> what can i say besides: your welcome
[21:36:49] <myoung34> go nuts
[21:37:02] <myoung34> my chatops is Errbot
[21:37:06] <myoung34> current gig is a python shop
[21:37:17] <myoung34> dragoonis basically yea
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[21:37:26] <dragoonis> I have a script here that does all the deploy steps, and I execute it from my Jenkinsfile
[21:37:29] <dragoonis> "${env.CI_SCRIPTS}/startPreviewDeploy.sh ${env.BUILD_NUMBER} ${env.PREVIEW_NAME}"
[21:37:29] <myoung34> you could let ci do whatever. doesn't have to be fabric/ansible
[21:37:33] <dragoonis> ^ this is on the jenkins master
[21:37:38] <myoung34> i just like to know i'm not tied/broken if something is down
[21:37:46] <dragoonis> and the startPreviewDeploy.sh does this
[21:37:51] <myoung34> prod shouldn't be screwed because the chatbot is screwed
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[21:38:00] <dragoonis> sh preview at preview dot server.com /home/preview/doPreviewDeploy.sh ${BUILD_NUMBER} ${PREVIEW_PREFIX}
[21:38:10] <dragoonis> s/sh/ssh
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[21:38:21] <myoung34> yea. that's fine, i'm just not a huge fan of that kind of stuff
[21:38:26] <myoung34> i'd rather use something like ansible
[21:38:34] <myoung34> same idea though
[21:38:38] <dragoonis> what stuff? you mean executing a bash script?
[21:38:42] <tang^> well, as much as I dislike python, I guess I'll start learning it
[21:38:44] <myoung34> remotely executing anything
[21:39:10] <dragoonis> but that's what ansible and fabric are doing, connecting to a server and running a linux command(s) ?
[21:39:15] <myoung34> you lose a lot of stuff when you do that like parsing output
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[21:39:25] <myoung34> dragoonis if you dumb it down yea
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[21:39:55] <dragoonis> I'm not dissing the approach, quite the apposite, i'm wondering what i'm missing, why everyone is using these tools and i'm only using bash
[21:39:56] <dragoonis> :P
[21:40:05] <myoung34> if it works for you then there's no need
[21:40:21] <myoung34> but if you're parsing output or trying to figure out exit codes/if else stuff then you might use something suited for that
[21:40:45] <myoung34> like if(user == ec2-user) then prefix with sudo
[21:40:55] <myoung34> that would be really hard to do over ssh without having that on the far side of the connection
[21:41:29] <myoung34> or if(output matches /warn/) do something else is impossible without doing stuff over ssh, parsing, then going back in over ssh
[21:42:36] <dragoonis> OUTPUT=$(ssh user@server /var/some/command.sh)
[21:42:52] <dragoonis> that's how you capture the output in bash
[21:42:55] <dragoonis> or did i miss your output ?
[21:43:01] <dragoonis> s/output/point
[21:43:17] <myoung34> i think you're thinking im saying you cant
[21:43:33] <dragoonis> Yes, I did think that. :)
[21:43:39] <myoung34> im saying if it works for you do it, i just typically use ansible/fabric so i can have a more fine tip on what im doing
[21:43:56] <myoung34> you asked why people use that stuff over ssh/bash
[21:44:11] <dragoonis> I noticed you did this in your Jenkinsfile
[21:44:13] <dragoonis> node('ec2-deploy') {
[21:44:27] <myoung34> yea my master aint doing nuffin
[21:44:32] <dragoonis> how do you get your jenkins master to be able to execute commands on a server named c2-deploy
[21:44:36] <dragoonis> is ec2-deploy a slave?
[21:44:38] <myoung34> i like the master to be dumb, i spin up my boxes specific to my task
[21:44:39] <tang^> I need my master to do nuffin
[21:44:41] <myoung34> yea, ec2 plugin
[21:44:51] <dragoonis> Oh, an EC2 plugin? I will check that out now
[21:44:51] <tang^> the new terminology is 'agent' instead of 'slave'
[21:44:54] <dragoonis> I'm using EC2
[21:44:55] <myoung34> i have a deploy slave that comes up as a t2.micro with ec2 permissions out the wazoo
[21:45:09] <myoung34> i have a regular ec2 that i use for tests that can do S3 stuff and is beefier (m3.medium)
[21:45:16] <myoung34> because a t2.micro would just die on tests
[21:45:17] <dragoonis> tang^, I thought it was a slave machine, that runs an agent.jar script
[21:45:30] <myoung34> you're right dragoonis
[21:45:45] <tang^> dragoonis: it is, but the terminology in the documentation is being reworded to use agent everywhere
[21:45:52] <dragoonis> tang^, good to know! :)
[21:45:57] <tang^> so you have master(s) and agent(s)
[21:46:07] <myoung34> i guess slaves is insensitive
[21:46:15] <myoung34> but it means i can scale up infinitely too
[21:46:22] <tang^> it's not like I pay them or anything
[21:46:24] <myoung34> if there are 60 builds in the queue i can make 40 agents come up
[21:46:25] <tang^> pay for them
[21:46:34] <tang^> sure
[21:46:42] <myoung34> i need to go to docker though
[21:46:47] <myoung34> becaues building AMIs is dumb
[21:46:54] <myoung34> takes forever
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[21:47:04] <tang^> depends on how long those AMIs are going to last
[21:47:12] <myoung34> usually a long time
[21:47:17] <myoung34> i just dont like having to rebuild them
[21:47:18] <dragoonis> I tried to have a docker container run on a remote EC2 server and auto-register the "agent" file so it becomes one of the agents in the pool .. but it didn't work
[21:47:26] <dragoonis> ran the agent file, but didn't come up on the master :(
[21:47:39] <myoung34> building an AMI with packer means i gotta spin up an instance to build it then run another instance when it's done to test it with infraspec
[21:47:42] <tang^> I like the EC2 plugin
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[21:48:12] <tang^> don't have a lot that can run on those agents yet, but it's a start
[21:48:17] <myoung34> ec2 plugin is nice. i'm in the process of cargo culting it for a redhat project
[21:48:29] <myoung34> tang^ it lets you separate concerns at the least
[21:48:36] <tang^> indeed
[21:48:48] <myoung34> i know exactly what permissions my tests need
[21:48:53] <dragoonis> why is EC2 plugin useful/good to install ?
[21:48:54] <myoung34> and i know exactly what i need to deploy
[21:49:03] <myoung34> read my last few dragoonis
[21:49:12] <myoung34> i can scale infinitely and i know what IAM permissions my diff builds need
[21:49:23] <myoung34> and i can have diff instance types. t2 for my deploy and m3 for my tests
[21:49:36] <myoung34> and because my master is dumb i can get a new one quick
[21:49:37] <dragoonis> cool, it can spin up EC2 instances for you ?
[21:49:39] <myoung34> yea
[21:49:44] <myoung34> and spin down
[21:49:50] <myoung34> so at night no agents
[21:49:52] <myoung34> just a small master
[21:49:59] <dragoonis> that sounds perfect!
[21:50:14] <myoung34> maybe i should write a blog post about the new place when i get this stupid clone fixed
[21:50:24] <tang^> that would be nice
[21:50:30] <myoung34> we're bleeding edge on the jenkins stuff, i was using the scm 2.0 stuff the day after they released it
[21:50:37] <dragoonis> You should, others are way behind you and need some place for guidance
[21:50:38] <myoung34> and got so tied to it i was building their beta fallout ones =(
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[21:50:59] <tang^> meep
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[21:51:16] <myoung34> i think im just gonna write a cron until that ticket gets some love
[21:51:23] <tang^> I started here with current Jenkins... then switched to LTS when current was moving too fast for me to keep up with
[21:51:24] <myoung34> sudo find /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/ -name '*@script' | xargs sudo rm -rf
[21:51:35] <myoung34> not nice but it works
[21:51:53] <tang^> but I'm really liking pipeline and need to play with the new blue ocean pipeline editor
[21:51:54] <dragoonis> not seen @script before
[21:51:55] <myoung34> the new place is a small python shop so i get to be creative
[21:51:55] <dragoonis> only @tmp
[21:52:08] <myoung34> the scm 2.0 stuff pulled me back
[21:52:11] <myoung34> i started hating jenkins
[21:52:16] <myoung34> i was a huge teamcity fan
[21:52:52] <dragoonis> If I don't want to auto-scale for EC2 instances - what other features/use-cases are benficial to the EC2 plugin ?
[21:53:15] <myoung34> i mean what are you looking  for?
[21:53:24] <myoung34> i like to scale but i also like to have diff types of boxes
[21:53:31] <tang^> I like it that the instances aren't running until a build needs them
[21:53:31] <myoung34> i dont actually scale up, just 1 of each
[21:53:42] <myoung34> but i like they come up when needed, go down when not
[21:53:47] <myoung34> so i dont have to worry about disk space ever
[21:53:50] <dragoonis> I'd like a scalable model, but manual scaling of jenkins agents.
[21:53:51] <tang^> we don't build constantly... several times a day
[21:54:03] <myoung34> i scale manually
[21:54:07] <myoung34> its rare we need moer than 1
[21:54:14] <myoung34> but like i said i never have to worry about disk space
[21:54:17] <myoung34> cause they gone
[21:54:18] <dragoonis> I need 1 master, 1 slave, 1 QA server
[21:54:27] <tang^> except on master
[21:54:28] <dragoonis> but in 1 month i will need 1 mater, 5 slaves, 5 QA servers .. for example
[21:54:30] <myoung34> yea
[21:54:44] <nanonyme> dragoonis, what do you mean by a QA server?
[21:54:45] <myoung34> then i think you either do more effort later or you set up to scale now
[21:54:56] <myoung34> same, i dont think of env boxes as part of ci
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[21:55:04] <dragoonis> nanonyme, it's like a "staging" but for a feature branch. also known as a "branching environment" or "preview environment"
[21:55:11] <myoung34> just rmemeber that CI != configuration management
[21:55:34] <myoung34> you should coordinate that via CI but im confused
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[21:56:05] <dragoonis> More and more devs in the company will gradually be using the system, and thus I need more "executors", thus I'll need more Agents
[21:56:32] <nanonyme> Sure, I just found it odd your environments would scale together with agent counts
[21:56:45] <dragoonis> They won't - it was an example number, sorry for confusion.
[21:56:50] <nanonyme> Ok
[21:56:50] <myoung34> ditto. if you're at aws and plan on scaling at some point i'd go ahead and use ec2 plugin
[21:56:54] <myoung34> catch up is hard later
[21:57:04] <myoung34> get the groundwork laid
[21:57:15] <myoung34> like i said i go from 0-1 it's not even that crazy
[21:57:33] <myoung34> but i can spin up a deploy box for deploys that's small. and i know exactly what IAM permissions are needed to deploy
[21:57:41] <dragoonis> Connecting to the EC2 QA server manually using SSH command and authorized_keys at the other end of the wire .. seemed a bit barebones :P
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[21:57:58] <dragoonis> I like the idea of doing node('ec2-qa-sever-1') { .. do some stuff .. }
[21:58:08] <myoung34> you wouldn't call it -1 but yea
[21:58:12] <nanonyme> dragoonis, I mean, like, we have hundreds of machines happering a single CI environment where I work. The CI environment itself is redundant multi-server environment though
[21:58:14] <myoung34> those are 'labels'
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[21:58:22] <myoung34> my 'ec2' label is our generic ec2 ami
[21:58:27] <nanonyme> Hammering even
[21:58:28] <myoung34> my ec2-deploy is a label for the small one
[21:58:40] <myoung34> i can have 8, you can just say 'ec2-deploy' and it's any available of those 8
[21:58:49] <dragoonis> myoung34, i thought it was the keyword to refer to a specific server, but you're using a label, for a "group" of servers .. am I correct?
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[21:58:54] <myoung34> yea
[21:58:56] <dragoonis> like ansible inventory groups
[21:58:57] <dragoonis> got it.
[21:59:07] <myoung34> maybe. i've not used ansible in practice
[21:59:10] <myoung34> just fabric
[21:59:12] <dragoonis> nanonyme, by CI environment, do you mean your Jenkins master ?
[21:59:18] <dgarstang> I'm trying to pass default parameters to a function in a Jenkinsfile, and it's not behaving like normal groovy. No matter what value I pass, the default value in the def gets used. :(
[21:59:23] <dragoonis> myoung34, it's basically the same as fabric
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[21:59:54] <nanonyme> dragoonis, no, I mean a group of servers running our software
[22:00:21] <myoung34> dgarstang i think i know your problem
[22:00:29] <myoung34> is it build #1 or has it been compiled before
[22:00:33] <nanonyme> The amount of agents can easily be a lot greater than the amount of servers, that's all I'm saying
[22:00:47] <dragoonis> nanonyme, insteresting. How do you go about doing that?
[22:00:53] <dgarstang> myoung34: oooookay
[22:00:59] <dragoonis> when you register the agent, do you give it a special port number, or name ?
[22:01:05] <dgarstang> myoung34: I also got the same result using a Map
[22:01:10] <dragoonis> java -jar slave.jar -jnlpUrl [Jenkins_Url]computer/ slaveName slave-agent.jnlp
[22:01:25] <dragoonis> its own "slaveName" perhaps ?
[22:01:29] <nanonyme> dragoonis, we just deploy persistent backends, the servers run separate from tests since we also make clients for these servers
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[22:02:02] <nanonyme> But yeah, if you only make servers, I guess you would probably actually have 1:1 agent to server ratio
[22:02:42] <dgarstang> myoung34: Oh. Not build #1, no
[22:03:02] <myoung34> dgarstang the reason i ask: JENKINS-41865
[22:03:04] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41865:buildWithParameters does not work when project has not been built before parameters configured (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41865
[22:03:14] <myoung34> i opened that because defaults are never available or used on build 1
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[22:03:49] <myoung34> oh, maybe not the same
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[22:03:52] <myoung34> if not i got nothing
[22:04:14] <dgarstang> myoung34: It's not build parameters. it's code... def build(opt1 = true) { ... } and when you call it with build(opt1 = false), well opt1 is true inside the def, always. I tested this with a tiny piece of groovy and it works fine
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[22:05:29] <dragoonis> from my Jenkinsfile, should I trigger the Deploy from the Agent/Slave? or should I trigger it from the Master? i.e: what node('X') value should I wrap around my deploy command?
[22:05:35] <myoung34> ohhhh. sorry
[22:05:39] <poagester> can someone point me in the direction of setting up a pipeline to pull and use a Jenkins file for the pipeline
[22:05:58] <myoung34> dragoonis choose the node that will do the work
[22:06:07] <myoung34> the trigger is always your master
[22:06:10] <dragoonis> Right.
[22:06:36] <dragoonis> node('slave') { do the build; }  .... node ('deploy-server') { doDeploy.sh }
[22:06:36] <dragoonis> right ?
[22:06:48] <myoung34> thats what i do
[22:06:58] <myoung34> as long as they dont share anything
[22:07:03] <myoung34> slave for me is my tester
[22:07:10] <myoung34> i dont auto deploy
[22:07:34] <myoung34> i auto test all branches but deploy is _always_ a parameterized HTTP call from my bot
[22:07:37] <myoung34> just the way i roll
[22:07:50] <dragoonis> slave and deploy server share nothing.
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[22:20:40] <poagester> i think the functionality im looking for is in JENKINS-34561 which would allow a specified JenkinsFile per job
[22:20:41] <michaelneale> rtyler: ahoy - you around good sir?
[22:20:44] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-34561:Allow to detect different Jenkinsfile filenames (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-34561
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[22:23:37] <rtyler> michaelneale: no i'm ded
[22:24:26] * tang^ dresses in black in remembrance
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[22:25:14] <myoung34> ohhh man 34561 sounds nice
[22:25:22] <myoung34> instead of having an evergrowing 1
[22:26:16] <michaelneale> rtyler: so - looking at official blueocean docker image - you mentioned the other week we could skip the installer right?
[22:26:33] <michaelneale> Or perhaps that is premature, as that means deciding all the plugins to bundle etc.
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[22:27:54] <poagester> myoung34: yeah it's exactly what im looking for
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[22:27:59] <michaelneale> rtyler: also the description here: https://hub.docker.com/r/jenkinsci/blueocean/ can we change that to “choose install recommended plugins”?
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[22:28:21] <poagester> been tasked with taking a co from waterfall to scrum to full ci/cd
[22:28:40] <poagester> 75% of the way to full ci/cd on all projects
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[22:28:41] <michaelneale> oh I cn edit it
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[22:29:08] <michaelneale> rtyler: don’t worry, I will follow up another time. Carry on.
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[22:31:41] <dgarstang> I'm trying to pass default parameters to a function in a Jenkinsfile, and it's not behaving like normal groovy. No matter what value I pass, the default value in the def gets used. :(
[22:31:45] <hrmpw> what use case are you trying to solve poagester
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[22:32:19] <hrmpw> that should always be true on first run dgarstang is it true on subsequent runs, too?
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[22:32:36] <dgarstang> hrmpw: Not build parameters. Just parameters to a method in a Jenkinsfile
[22:33:20] <dgarstang> hrmpw: def build(opt1 = true) { ... } when called with build(opt1 = false) is always true in the funciton. I tested this with some external groovy and it behaves the correct way
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[22:33:42] <rtyler> michaelneale: it's possible to skip the installer, the downside is that some of the default security options would need to get squared away and configured if the installer is suppressed
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[22:37:17] <dgarstang> hrmpw: Your telling me that parameters passed to a function in a Jenkinsfile will vary between the first and subsequent runs?
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[22:38:13] <hrmpw> no, for build parameters in a Jenkinsfile for multi branch the first time the Pipeline is run there are no parameters passed to it so it will use the default values
[22:38:30] <dgarstang> hrmpw: I know, but these aren't build parameters
[22:38:31] <hrmpw> I’m not sure why a groovy parameter will not have updated value
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[22:47:03] <michaelneale> rtyler: yeah - can punt on that for now
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[23:03:07] <poagester> hrmpw: I would like to keep my JenkinsFiles in git and have the job pull them
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[23:04:13] <autojack> I should probably move from storing my Pipeline global libs in the old-style built-in Jenkins git repo, and put them in my external repo. is there a best practice for that? should I just git rm the files from the internal git?
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[23:08:50] <tang^> dgarstang: several of the examples I see identify the variable type as well. you mention `def build(opt1 = true) {}`, but I think you may need `def build(Boolean opt1 = true) {}`
[23:09:12] <dgarstang> tang: Works fine without it in plain ol' groovy...
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[23:09:51] <tang^> dgarstang: so? Pipeline groovy is not a pure groovy system
[23:09:56] <tang^> there are limitations
[23:10:04] <dgarstang> tang: :(
[23:10:12] <dgarstang> I wish these limitations where documented
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[23:12:43] <tang^> you mean at the bottom of this page? https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/
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[23:14:18] <dgarstang> tang: Must be missing where it says function parameters need their type first
[23:14:36] <tang^> are you using declarative or scripted pipeline?
[23:15:52] <dgarstang> I don't ... know
[23:16:29] <tang^> second section on that page says: "All valid Declarative Pipelines must be enclosed within a `pipeline` block"
[23:16:53] <tang^> if you're not using `pipeline {}` then you're using scripted
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[23:17:46] <dgarstang> must be scripted then
[23:17:50] <tang^> if you are... that same section mentions a "more simplified and opinionated syntax" and the last section should imply things
[23:18:01] <dgarstang> k
[23:18:37] <tang^> the last section does imply that scripted is more relaxed and you should be able to use most of the basic groovy structure
[23:19:26] <tang^> I don't know groovy at all
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[23:21:50] <hrmpw> poagester I understand that much but why would you need multiple files
[23:23:22] <tang^> sounds like what poagester really needs is to move stuff into a jenkins library and simplify the jenkinsfile themselves
[23:23:30] <poagester> hrmpw: just getting started with Jenkins first of all. Not all jobs have the same stages, compilers/language or locations
[23:24:33] <tang^> jobs are repo specific, no, poagester?
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[23:25:33] <hrmpw> and branch specific
[23:25:46] <tang^> oh
[23:25:49] <tang^> fun
[23:26:06] <poagester> yes and yes
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[23:26:13] <tang^> well, declarative pipelines allow you to have branch-specific code in your master jenkinsfile
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[23:27:10] <poagester> maybe i need to change from pipeline to multibranch pipeline?
[23:27:14] <poagester> would that be more suitable
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[23:28:40] <tang^> ideally... then it treats each branch as its own job with its own jenkinsfile
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[23:37:04] <tang^> heh... I was just going to ask about Shared Libraries and Notifications when I read the part of the article I needed answering
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[23:37:22] <tang^> bitwiseman: thanks for the notifications articles, btw
[23:37:32] <poagester> tang^: Thanks for pointing me in a better direction than i was heading
[23:37:42] <poagester> that looks like it will be the best option
[23:38:32] <bitwiseman> tang^: You're welcome.  My pleasure. :)
[23:40:35] <bitwiseman> poagester: if you're using github, you also get PR jobs.
[23:41:00] <poagester> visualstudio.com with git
[23:41:21] <poagester> frozen budget right now
[23:41:27] <bitwiseman> Do they have PR equivalent right now?
[23:42:16] <poagester> i think so, it's recent
[23:42:36] <poagester> i have to have it set to poll because there isnt a pinhole back to the internal network
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[23:42:58] <tang^> yes, there is a pr interface
[23:43:09] <bitwiseman> Multibranch might be able to build those as well, if given the right mapping.
[23:43:22] <tang^> neat
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[23:43:41] <poagester> lucky for me right now i don't need to worry about that yet
[23:44:07] <poagester> team of 2
[23:44:26] <bitwiseman> it's never too early. :)
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[23:45:02] <tang^> that's the perfect time to practices
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[23:45:45] <poagester> once i get jenkins vetted i should add that. it'd be nice for qa, once they get a more technical member that understands the mid and backend
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[23:55:15] <poagester> tang^: follow this methodology https://jenkins.io/blog/2017/02/15/declarative-notifications/
[23:55:47] <tang^> poagester: that's the one I was just thanking bitwiseman for
[23:56:03] <poagester> i did not think it was this robust
[23:56:49] <poagester> tang^: thanks again, looks like im going to be having fun tonight
[23:57:06] <tang^> welcome
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[23:57:22] <tang^> hmm, I should probably not send these emails to him, though
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