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[00:45:14] <gaieges> actually i think i figured it out .. problem wasn't with the bearer token, was with the quotes surrounding it. it does look like it actually looks for the credential in the output and redacts it
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[01:13:31] <gbt> hi there, new to this... i want to utilise a jenkins slave to build some RPM's, but the slave will have to run a funky script to extract the things it needs from the input zip file to build ... can I configure a slave to run a specific script when it recieves the source file to build ?
[01:14:13] <gbt> im struggling to find documentation on this :(
[01:15:15] <gbt> my jenkins slave will have 'mock' installed and the proecssing scripts all ready to go
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[01:15:41] <g3> so in jenkins file
[01:15:49] <g3> can I set the depth of the checkout in `checkout scm`
[01:15:51] <g3> ?
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[02:08:00] <JorgePlo> Are there any best practices for managing credentials differently on slave machines? For example I have deploy slaves in separate environments and I want the credentials to be stored on those environments only.
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[11:02:15] <jkaluza> Hi, we are running tests in jenkins, is there a way how to mark job as failed when it takes more than 30 minutes for example?
[11:02:24] <jkaluza> Sometimes the tests hang...
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[11:03:54] <IzNo> jkaluza: If you use pipelines you can set a timeout - what style of jobs are you running?
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[11:04:48] <jkaluza> executing shell job triggered by git commit
[11:04:58] <jkaluza> hm, I could do that in bash probably somehow
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[11:05:46] <IzNo> in a freestyle job?
[11:06:45] <IzNo> jkaluza: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Build-timeout+Plugin if freestyle
[11:07:04] <jkaluza> IzNo: thanks
[11:07:07] <IzNo> if pipeline look at https://jenkins.io/doc/pipeline/steps/workflow-basic-steps/#code-timeout-code-enforce-time-limit
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[12:03:11] <casz> Trying to move inner class to a class Items.XSTREAM2.addCompatibilityAlias("hudson.plugins.accurev.AccurevSCM$AccurevServer", AccurevServer.class); where the class is located at import hudson.plugins.accurev.AccurevServer to then give it a descriptor
[12:03:57] <casz> But I only get CannotResolveClassException: hudson.plugins.accurev.AccurevSCM$AccurevServer :(
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[12:29:28] <danielbeck> casz does it expect a normal name? I.e. period instead of dollar
[12:29:37] <danielbeck> jenkins-admin yo
[12:29:49] <danielbeck> jenkins-admin: are you there?
[12:29:49] <jenkins-admin> Wut?
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[12:45:57] <casz> danielbeck: nope, even with . it still shows up in old data
[12:46:35] <danielbeck> casz are you sure Items.XSTREAM2 is the instance responsible for your class?
[12:47:27] <danielbeck> hmmm should be if it's in the SCM
[12:47:35] <danielbeck> unless it's stored on global config or somewhere?
[12:47:35] <casz> just going off https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hint+on+retaining+backward+compatibility :)
[12:48:03] <danielbeck> Quoting: "You need to do this against the right XStream instance, as a few different instances are used to persist different parts of data. Items.XSTREAM2 is used for serializing project configuration, and Run.XSTREAM2 is used for serializing build and its associated Actions."
[12:48:19] <casz> the inner class was stored on a list of the innerclass accurevServer
[12:48:28] <casz> on the descriptor*
[12:48:44] <danielbeck> what file is that? a job's config.xml?
[12:49:00] <danielbeck> or rather a global config file?
[12:49:09] <casz> stored in hudson.plugins.accurev.AccurevSCM.xml
[12:49:36] <danielbeck> hmmmm
[12:49:43] <danielbeck> try Jenkins.XSTREAM2
[12:50:23] <casz> trying :)
[12:51:16] <casz> danielbeck: still the same
[12:52:23] <casz> I guess the ultimate way is make the inner class fields transient and make a new class and migrate it on readResolve
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[12:52:56] <casz> was hoping the alias would do the trick
[12:53:37] <danielbeck> uh
[12:53:52] <casz> sorry did try with the dollar sign...
[12:53:57] <casz> did not
[12:54:02] <danielbeck> it seems we don't expose the xstream of descriptors did way :-/
[12:54:06] <danielbeck> *this way
[12:54:17] <danielbeck> casz does that work or WDYM?
[12:56:31] <danielbeck> casz Seems you could override getXmlFile() in your descriptor and rather than call super, invoke the new XmlFile(Xstream, File) constructor and override the Xstream instance, adding an alias along the way
[12:56:41] <danielbeck> which seems crazy but I have no other suggestions right now
[12:57:37] <casz> does not work
[13:01:27] <directhex> how do i use a lightweight executor for a pipeline script? i.e. matrix job masters don't use an executor slot, and i'm trying to convert a set of matrix & freestyle jobs to pipeline
[13:03:14] <jimklimov> directhex, I am not certain you can : generally the pipeline script (Jenkinsfile) and resources it may need (more scripts/libs) are in Git, so you need a workspace to check out a current copy...
[13:04:08] <directhex> so i need to waste resources (i.e. money) on an idle computer whose only job is to dispatch jobs on other computers?
[13:05:13] <jimklimov> did you see the gearman plugin?
[13:05:28] <jimklimov> on large setups, being a master is so much a job of itself, that people cluster masters
[13:06:24] <jimklimov> also, if you want a cleanly "role-separated" setup, you can ssh from master to itself and proclaim that one of the slaves
[13:07:01] <jimklimov> so you have master-style jobs on the master, and builds executed on slaves, where "ssh to master" is one of the slaves
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[13:07:47] <directhex> i have a horrible feeling i'm guilty of "X therefore how do i Y" development here. so, from first principles:
[13:07:59] <jimklimov> and also what of virtualization? there are VMs, containers, local zones, jails, dockers in almost every OS nowadays. Your machine does not have to sit idle :)
[13:09:34] <directhex> right now, i have a job which downloads a specific artifact, and runs it on 5 specific labels in a matrix. i need to genericize what i'm doing, so i can make an arbitrary artifact build on an arbitrary set of builders - but i don't want to lose the "clustering" effect of matrix jobs (i.e. the build output is only uploaded when all configurations of a specific matrix are successful)
[13:10:52] <directhex> plan 1 was to use a variable for the matrix configuration & feed that in via a parameter, but that doesn't work since none of the text-field axis types expand variables
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[13:11:38] <jimklimov> pipeline has a parallel{} clause that can help here
[13:13:26] <jimklimov> one caveat is that natively such parallel clauses are limited by requiring a predefined name and content, so you can't quite script those and it becomes annoying when you have similar jobs (e.g. make one of those 20 targets)
[13:14:10] <jimklimov> you can script generation of code that contains parallel blocks however; BlueOcean may have hard time rendering it prettily, but it works
[13:15:06] <jimklimov> I have an example here http://pastebin.com/dSdNX4rh (see "subbuilds" and "subtests")
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[13:15:38] <directhex> mmm
[13:15:46] <jimklimov> if in your case there is only one layer of parallels (for the tests on 5 nodes), it might just get rendered well by BO interface
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[13:16:38] <directhex> it seems "restrict where this job can run" doesn't expand labels, so i can't use pipeline to dispatch existing freestyle jobs like this. so i might need to patch up all involved plugins to be pipeline-compatible
[13:16:39] <directhex> fun
[13:16:51] <rollebolle> Hi! Im using pipeline and have a build stage containing the following step: step([$class: 'XUnitPublisher',....). If a test fails, indeed the whole build fails but not the current stage. Anyone knows how I can make the current step fail?
[13:17:03] <rollebolle> *current stage fail
[13:17:05] <jimklimov> and yes, "Matrix Pipelines" were said to be the answer for usecase like my example, too bad they are not implemented yet :-)
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[13:18:54] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[13:19:07] <raddy> jenkins server is running
[13:19:25] <raddy> How can i know on which port it is listening ?
[13:19:34] <jimklimov> directhex, I am not sure I get your last question... at least in pipeline, you can assign jobs to run on a node() specified by a boolean-expression of node labels (e.g. "linux && x86")
[13:20:10] <jimklimov> and in my paste above, you can see how I iterate those (see buildnode var)
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[13:20:25] <jimklimov> raddy, `netstat -an`
[13:20:30] <jimklimov> which OS?
[13:20:40] <jimklimov> on linux, netstat -anp | grep LISTEN
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[13:20:51] <jimklimov> on Windows, netstat -an | find "LISTEN"
[13:20:57] <bjuraga> hi there
[13:21:01] <casz> danielbeck: making the inner class all transient would allow for easy migration at least, I did something similar on another branch of development
[13:21:10] <jimklimov> the linux variant with -p also shows process (should be java)
[13:21:52] <directhex> jimklimov: i mean i can't use `build job: 'arbitrary-freestyle', parameters: [string(name: 'label', value: label)]` then in arbitrary-freestyle restrict the job to run on ${label}
[13:22:00] <danielbeck> casz AFAICT Xstream aliases are somewhat discouraged, so if there's a straightforward alternative, you should probably use that
[13:22:01] <jimklimov> also note that if you run in a java appserver rather than as a standalone jar, you'd look for that appserver (tomcat, glassfish, etc.)
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[13:23:40] <jimklimov> directhex, Ok, I got your question - but sorry, got no answer :(
[13:23:55] <bjuraga> will it be rude to ask a question about setting up continuous DELIVERY? Setup: (TFS - TFS CVS / no GIT | 2 websites asp.net | 4 environments) id like to get 8 zip files (2 apps x 4 environments) Thanks
[13:24:06] <jimklimov> I am not even sure you can "schedule a job to run on node/label pattern"
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[13:25:09] <jimklimov> probably that constraint has to defined in a particular job metadata
[13:25:38] <jimklimov> or (as we did earlier in the darker ages) define the job to e.g. run SSH to a particular (parametrized) node and do its work there
[13:26:43] <jimklimov> maybe you can get Jenkins to generate a job definition (just like jobs are generated from Jenkinsfiles when a new PR is encountered) for your freestyle job with particular metadata, then call it and scrap it
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[13:29:07] <jimklimov> I think we had multiphase jobs back in the day, mixed with Lockable Resources plugin, so we could call a chain of jobs (aka "phases", sequential and parallel) under common constraints, like a grabbed and dedicated node...
[13:29:29] <jimklimov> so in the worst case, you can generate a job like that and have it call your freestyle as a phase
[13:30:28] <danielbeck> directhex jimklimov NodeLabel Parameter Plugin?
[13:30:42] <danielbeck> didn't follow your conversation but this may help (or not)
[13:30:51] <directhex> never heard of it. investigating
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[13:32:07] <jimklimov> never heard of it yet, but the name sounds relevant , thanks :)
[13:33:54] <directhex> yeah, this looks promising
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[13:35:16] <directhex> so i can have a generic "turn .dsc into .deb on this base os" job, with pipeline as a broker, replacing matrix jobs. gotta work out how to handle the artifacts...
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[13:37:05] <casz> danielbeck: Thanks for the pointers :)
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[13:37:47] <bjuraga> anyone has any idea how to setup Continuous Delivery?
[13:38:28] <bjuraga> so far Jenkins seems to be unable/un-intuitive for everything i tried
[13:39:25] <jimklimov> bjuraga, Did you look at pipelines?
[13:39:37] <casz> don't know how well TFS integrate with jenkins pipeline but I would suggest looking at multibranch pipeline
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[13:39:55] <bjuraga> i tried them - i can not select TFS (installed some plugin)
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[13:40:17] <jimklimov> there you can essentially chain the "checkout - build - test - deploy" logic, aborting by default wherever a step failed
[13:40:21] <bjuraga> them = pipeline
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[13:41:08] <jimklimov> doesn't TFS serve Git?
[13:41:14] <bjuraga> i will try to create a multibranch thingy
[13:41:31] <bjuraga> TFS is used with TFS source versioning - not Git
[13:41:41] <casz> bjuraga: to my knowledge of the TFS plugin it is pipeline compatible
[13:41:41] <jimklimov> afaik it depends
[13:41:56] <jimklimov> MS uses Git under the hood for years now
[13:42:05] <jimklimov> so it may be a switch on TFS server side
[13:42:10] <jimklimov> or an upgrade needed ;)
[13:42:52] <bjuraga> so our setup is: TFServer with TF SCV no git
[13:43:09] <bjuraga> and we would not change that
[13:44:02] <bjuraga> on a simple Jenkins project (Item) i can (after hours of configuring) checkout the code by using the TFS plugin
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[13:45:14] <bjuraga> One thing about Jenkins so far is: there are 3 sections for everything and 100 ways to set up something that should be straight forward and only 1 of the combinations work :|
[13:45:23] <bjuraga> but after a while you get used to it
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[13:45:54] <bjuraga> and expect it to be too complicated :) but atleast to work
[13:46:10] <bjuraga> am i right about the work part atleast?
[13:47:34] <casz> bjuraga: have you added a jenkinsfile to your TFS repos?
[13:48:14] <bjuraga> is that for the pipeline plugins?
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[13:50:37] <casz> bjuraga: I suggest you have a read https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/
[13:51:31] <bjuraga> maybe i should explain my intentions? i would like to checkout TFS source versioned code (its not Git), then build the code (.NET C# 10ish projects in one solution), then publish using MSBuild in a temp folder 2 of the applications, then change config files for other environments and create deployable zip files
[13:51:54] <casz> and pipeline is optimal for that
[13:53:24] <bjuraga> i figured as much - i used cruise control .net for years and could not "sell" corporate on it simply as its a bunch of xml files / no UI per-se
[13:53:48] <bjuraga> and there i could / had to write up everything
[13:54:01] <bjuraga> i hope Jenkins is not the same nightmare
[13:54:50] <casz> well jenkins pipeline provides UI and delivery pipelines as code
[13:55:43] <casz> https://ci.jenkins.io/job/Core/job/jenkins/ see this for getting an idea how multibranch pipeline works
[13:56:28] <jimklimov> bjuraga, also to get started, take a look at Blue Ocean Editor plugin (or somesuch) which allows you to click your way around a basic pipeline structure with code snippets
[13:56:35] <jimklimov> or at least should...
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[13:57:17] <casz> bjuraga: Here is the newer jenkins UI called blue ocean: https://ci.jenkins.io/blue/organizations/jenkins/Core%2Fjenkins/detail/PR-2745/14/pipeline
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[13:59:35] <bjuraga> the multibranch idea is something i could live with if i cant set up a pipeline
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[13:59:55] <casz> multibranch is pipeline :)
[14:00:17] <bjuraga> but still i would prefer pipeline - if the images around the web are correct that i can "revert" old versions if something is not working
[14:00:20] <jimklimov> note: the Multibranch Pipeline plugin ;)
[14:00:28] <bjuraga> hmm
[14:00:50] <casz> if you can setup pipeline with a jenkinsfile on your main branch and have it working, you can enable multibranch and merge the jenkinsfile to all your branches
[14:01:02] <bjuraga> has any one here checked out TFS hosted source code using that then
[14:01:02] <jimklimov> with added pixie dust magic to help it find new branches and PRs and generate jobs to build those automagically
[14:01:23] <casz> inded thats the beauty of it
[14:01:40] <casz> I love our pipeline just for the magic of discovering new branches and PRs :)
[14:01:42] <bjuraga> so far i know that the jenkinsfile comes from within "my" source code, an i can not checkout TFS - catch 22
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[14:03:04] <casz> what version of jenkins are you running?
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[14:05:12] <casz> bjuraga: TFS does support pipeline but not multibranch
[14:05:23] <bjuraga> version 2.32.2
[14:06:34] <casz> if you create a Pipeline job, you should be able to select TFVC in the pipeline definition selection with Pipeline script from SCM
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[14:07:53] <casz> bjuraga: this is what you should see http://prntscr.com/ebjjjg
[14:08:15] <bjuraga> i will try it thank you for the help
[14:08:37] <bjuraga> what can the barebounes pipeline provide in terms of what i wrote my goals are?
[14:09:16] <casz> bjuraga: but may I suggest allowing git on your TFS? that would greatly help you out with jenkins
[14:09:32] <casz> bjuraga: all the same stuff but only for your main branch
[14:09:44] <jimklimov> I think it should allow most of what was discussed above, except autodiscovery of branches and PRs
[14:10:15] <jimklimov> so you'd have to set up jobs manually and specify where to get the pipeline code (e.g. from SCM)
[14:10:53] <jimklimov> but then as new commits come, your SCM'ed pipeline script (e.g. Jenkinsfile) should be used
[14:11:24] <jimklimov> I hope so at least :)
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[14:13:19] <bjuraga> thanks guys
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[14:15:31] <jfemia> bah, another day, another branch missed by JENKINS-41626 :(
[14:15:33] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-41626:Branch indexing on subversion repo does not work properly (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-41626
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[14:33:24] <bjuraga> here's what i got from Pipeline on the first run ( from interval)
[14:33:25] <bjuraga> Started by an SCM change java.lang.AbstractMethodError: you must override the new overload of checkout at hudson.scm.SCM.checkout(SCM.java:488) at org.jenkinsci.plugins.workflow.steps.scm.SCMStep.checkout(SCMStep.java:109) at org.jenkinsci.plugins.workflow.cps.CpsScmFlowDefinition.create(CpsScmFlowDefinition.java:108) at org.jenkinsci.plugins.workflow.cps.CpsScmFlowDefinition.create(CpsScmFlowDefinition.java:57) at org.jenkins
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[14:39:24] <bjuraga> OMG - after opening the configuration TFS is no longer available - instead Git is selected as SCM and there is no TFVC option no more
[14:39:55] <bjuraga> i thought Jenkins was production ready??? not in early Alpha
[14:40:01] <bjuraga> please fix this
[14:40:09] <bjuraga> or dont whatever
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[14:43:05] <danielbeck> bjuraga Based on the error it shouldn't be possible to use TFS with Pipeline -- was it offered in the snippet generator?
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[14:43:51] <danielbeck> or rather, in the job config form?
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[14:47:15] <bjuraga> steps: 1) set up new Pipeline Item (not Multibranch) 2) i am offered TFS as option for SCM, i configure it 3) i go to item homepage and wait for interval trigger 4) i get the error i posted in #1 5) i press build manually and get another error ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job. 6) i go to configure and there is no longer option to choose TFS as SCM
[14:47:54] <bjuraga> so this is simply unacceptable for a production system IMO - i have all latest versions
[14:47:58] <bjuraga> of plugins
[14:48:51] <jimklimov> well, with 2.32.x you have the latest *LTS* (which was deemed stable and only receives security fixes)
[14:49:14] <jimklimov> and "deemed" != "is" necessarily ;)
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[14:49:42] <casz> bjuraga: not all plugins are created equal
[14:50:22] <casz> if you feel it lacking go contribute to the plugin
[14:50:59] <bjuraga> well maybe no one is using TFS in the world except me :) but still i am new to Jenkins and this is simply a joke
[14:51:40] <casz> its about choose the right tool for the job
[14:51:45] <jimklimov> looking at https://github.com/jenkinsci/tfs-plugin/commits/master the Support multibranch Pipeline project was added less than a week ago
[14:52:00] <jimklimov> it might be not-yet-well cooked, or you might not have updated to it yet, for example
[14:52:01] <bjuraga> casz: i see your point but this is not a matter of contributing - Jenkins has a broken core in my point of view to allow for this behavior so ill simply use something else
[14:52:02] <bjuraga> thanks
[14:52:11] <casz> maybe they did not release it
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[14:52:47] <jimklimov> and looking at https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Team+Foundation+Server+Plugin there are roughly 3000 installs that may be stuck with TFS like you ;)
[14:53:19] <casz> jimklimov: seems like they did not release the update yet :)
[14:53:39] <jimklimov> and AFAIK TFS is a third-party plugin, not "jenkins core">
[14:53:43] <jfemia> he already left the channel ;)
[14:53:53] <jfemia> they*
[14:53:57] <jimklimov> although cloudbees are listed among copyrights in the readme...
[14:54:13] <jimklimov> (he might come back to chat history when googling)
[14:54:29] <danielbeck> hmm weirdly enough the plugin shouldn't even be offered, as it doesn't override isApplicable
[14:54:49] <jimklimov> so - core bug found? ;p
[14:55:12] <jimklimov> was he right, in a way?
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[14:55:26] <danielbeck> possibly, not sure
[14:55:53] <casz> how do you mark it applicable for only pipeline and not multibranch pipeline?
[14:57:23] <danielbeck> can't, but it shouldn't be applicable to Pipeline either
[14:57:39] <danielbeck> it's missing the override required to handle Job, it only does AbstractProject
[14:58:02] <casz> Accurevplugin is applicable to pipeline at least :) which was where I was coming from
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[15:03:38] <danielbeck> Jenkins.instance.getDescriptor(hudson.plugins.tfs.TeamFoundationServerScm).isApplicable(Jenkins.instance.getItem('pl')) // false -- so possibly a bug in workflow-job
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[15:09:24] <JeanFelipe> Hi... my build fails with this message: "mips-linux-xgcc: No such file or directory". It works locally on a ubuntu machine. The mips-linux-xgcc and the others toolchain binaries are properly installed in the right path. Any tips? Can anyonte help me with this problem?
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[15:12:33] <danielbeck> FTR JENKINS-42216
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[15:12:37] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-42216:Pipeline job offers inapplicable SCM on initial 'Pipeline from SCM' config (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-42216
[15:12:59] <danielbeck> JeanFelipe compare PATH and other environment variables between Jenkins and your account. Run `env`
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[15:23:36] <JeanFelipe> Thanks... I have already checked it. The jenkins user has less env variables than the regular user (my user). The common variables seems aligned... I can try to merge the others.
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[15:24:12] <jablo> I'm trying to create a multiplatform job on my jenkins, for mac/windows/linux. THree of our slaves are labeled "mac", "windows", "linux" respectively. Jenkins seem to do the git checkout BEFORE starting the builds for each platform... this is very strange... how then can the builds on each platform access the source code?!??
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[15:24:39] <danielbeck> jablo is that a Multi-configuration/Matrix job, or a Pipeline job?
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[15:25:47] <jablo> Not being an exper jenkinser, I stumbled accross "New Item / Multi-configuration project". By description it seemed to fit our use-case fantastically: Build Debug+Release builds of 4 apps on 3 platforms...
[15:26:39] <jablo> danielbeck: It's a Multi-configuration job. I didn't know about Pipeline until 5 seconds ago when you mentioned it (still don't, by the way... but now I have something to google)
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[15:28:01] <danielbeck> jablo Multiconfig ("matrix") jobs check out the source code once on the master to support polling for changes, and determining what changed between builds. The individual "sub-builds" will check out the source code again into their workspace to actually do stuff with it
[15:28:43] <danielbeck> so, yes, it's weird, but there's actually a reason
[15:29:35] <jablo> danielbeck: Oh, I see... for some reason unknown to me the master job selected our "mac" to run on... which confused me... but it could run anywhere, I guess, before branching out. Oh well, then I just need to fund out why the git checkout gets killed... "killed by signal 15"
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[15:30:49] <danielbeck> jablo oh, right, it does run anywhere, but there's an advanced option to tie it to master
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[15:39:05] <jablo> danielbeck: Yes, I'm using that now to tie it to my linux builder (which I'm most familiar with, so it provides the best debug point). The error is a known git checkout error, I just need to increase the time out (we have some laaarge binary repositories)
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[15:39:32] <jablo> so all in all, it still seems to fit my use case exactly. Can't wait to see the red/green build-matrix!
[15:39:47] <danielbeck> jablo just the situation in which the extra checkout is most painful :-/
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[15:41:39] <jablo> danielbeck yes. C++ is not blessed with Java's maven dynamically-download-the-right-dependencies-in-the-right-version-at-build-time functionality, unfortunately. Even a local repository, cross-platform win/mac/linux would help. Haven't found one, though.
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[15:44:41] <danielbeck> jablo I actually hacked something together using Artifactory and Gradle at $previousJob -- I think since then, Gradle has learned proper C++ so maybe there's something like that in the default setup now
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[15:48:42] <jimklimov> jablo, In case of pipeline, note that you can use `stash`/`unstash` steps
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[15:50:16] <jimklimov> so if your connection to remote git is slow, but between farm nodes it is quick, or to consistently build the same checkout even if remote git changes in the meantime, you might start a pipeline with a step to `scm checkout` and `stash` these files, and then distribute jobs to your node()s that would start with `unstash`
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[15:51:05] <jimklimov> this approach can also be used to complete a build and fan-out tests over stashed products
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[15:52:05] <jimklimov> and also try to integrate your C/C++ build with C++ and share the cache dir over CIFS/NFS/... accessible to accounts that builds run as, so your workers can all benefit from it
[15:52:12] <jimklimov> argh
[15:52:15] <jimklimov> with "ccache"
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[15:53:57] <jhatoms> Hi all : In the console output of a promotion, is there a way to activate timestamps / color output like in the build console ?
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[15:58:19] <jhatoms> Oh... I see an open pull request for support (JENKINS-29586), so it means that it may be available soon ? do you need "more tests" on this one ?
[15:58:22] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-29586:Add support for ANSI color output in console (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-29586
[15:58:51] <jhatoms> but I still appreciate having the timestamp for each log lines...
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[16:03:34] <jablo> jimklimov thanks for the suggestions. Thsose are all interesting things we've been contemplating. Have to go a bit slow - have to balance getting things done and improving how to get things done.
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[16:06:49] <jimklimov> Yes, I stepped into this landmine a while back
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[16:07:06] <jimklimov> had a project to make in Jenkins and an idea how to do it with the old approaches
[16:07:15] <jimklimov> but found there's these all new goodies around
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[16:08:07] <jimklimov> wandered off to learn them and chase the evolving features etc. - and progressed on initial project maybe 10x slower than anticipated... or 100x...
[16:08:47] <jimklimov> so yes, better PoC the solution however fast and dirty you can make it - so something works already - and then improve and rewrite from scratch :)
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[16:10:34] <jimklimov> note that the ideas for your setup solution will be mostly the same, just that they'd end up wrapped in different job types or Jenkinsfile markup
[16:11:01] <jfemia> jablo: jimklimov: don't use `stash` if you have "laaaaaarge binary repositories" :)
[16:11:04] <jimklimov> but e.g. the shell/groovy/...-scripts ivolved might end up copied verbatim (or used from SCM)
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[16:11:40] <jimklimov> jfemia, Interesting, is there an estimate for "laaaarge"? Gigabytes? Tens of Megs?
[16:11:53] <jfemia> IIRC anything over a few MB
[16:11:53] <jimklimov> some rule-of-a-thumb thing?
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[16:12:10] <jfemia> it's just because it's really slow
[16:12:13] <jfemia> for whatever reason
[16:12:25] <jimklimov> isn't it "tarball here, untar there"?
[16:12:37] <jimklimov> transfer over ssh tunnel to slaves?
[16:14:12] <jfemia> https://github.com/jenkinsci/workflow-basic-steps-plugin/commit/413df48bdcb832261e8fb110150eeb8069e77c33
[16:14:53] <jfemia> also JENKINS-38640
[16:14:55] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-38640:Unstash painfully slow for large artifacts (due to compression?) (Resolved) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-38640
[16:16:01] <jfemia> the fix on that issue might have improved it a bit
[16:17:12] <pbn4> Few days ago I made my first approach to jenkins contribution and I was a little bit confused. Can someone describe his development environment for a specific case: you have a plugin and you want to fix a given issue. How do you test things work or not?
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[16:17:54] <jimklimov> pbn4 : do you have a way to build the plugin from sources?
[16:18:13] <dbrooks> Has anyone had an luck creating their own custom Jenkins plugin? I am trying to create one for my company’s internal use and cannot seem to load job configurations entered into the plugin form
[16:18:15] <jimklimov> or did you just fix the human-readable codebase and propose a PR?
[16:18:26] <danielbeck> pbn4 depends on the problem, but typically by writing tests
[16:18:37] <jimklimov> note - one step is to propose a PR ;)
[16:18:40] <danielbeck> dbrooks could you be more specific about the problem?
[16:19:41] <jimklimov> since most plugins are on github, you fork off the original one in jenkinsci org, clone your fork to local workstation, edit code, git add / git commit / git push it back to your github fork, and propose a PR to the original repo
[16:19:51] <dbrooks> @danielbeck, first time writing a plugin and I have a class IntrepidBuilder that extends Builder. I have this class taking in a List of BuildConfigs which is my data model associated with my config.jelly. Basically, no matter what I do, IntrepidBuilder is initialized with no buildConfigs
[16:20:10] <jimklimov> for small changes you might just do it in github web-gui, but YMMV there
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[16:21:22] <jimklimov> pbn4, If you do have the toolkit needed to build your plugin and get an HPI/JPI file - feed it to your local Jenkins setup (perhaps to a setup made just to test the plugin)
[16:21:33] <jimklimov> otherwise maybe ask someone to build it
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[16:21:46] <danielbeck> dbrooks Is BuildConfig a Describable with its own config.jelly ? or how is it shown on the UI?
[16:21:56] <jimklimov> if e.g. dependency hell is too complicated and/or not available to your platform
[16:21:59] <danielbeck> dbrooks what's the JSON string submitted to Jenkins when you submit your configuration?
[16:22:37] <dbrooks> BuildConfig extends AbstractDescribableImpl<BuildConfigs>
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[16:22:47] <dbrooks> and I have only one config.jelly
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[16:25:22] <dbrooks> @danielbeck I did my best so far by combining code snippets from some plugins we use on our Jenkins as well as the jenkins plugin tutorial.
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[16:26:56] <danielbeck> dbrooks any chance you could show your work?
[16:27:08] <dbrooks> I placed log statements in both IntrepidBuilder and BuildConfigs initializers, and only IntrepidBuilder's is being called, leading me to think that BuildConfigs is not being initialized at all.
[16:27:38] <dbrooks> @danielbeck, what would be the best way to get my project to you?
[16:27:42] <danielbeck> dbrooks do you have @DataboundSetter setWhatever(List<BuildConfig> buildconfigs) or similar?
[16:28:11] <danielbeck> or a parameter to a @DataboundContructor?
[16:28:24] <dbrooks> @danielbeck I don't have any @DataboundSetters. I have a @DataBoundConstructor on IntrepidBuilder and on BuildConfigs
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[16:28:59] <dbrooks> If I remove the @DataBoundConstructor from IntrepidBuilder, I get an error/crash when saving the job configuration
[16:29:05] <pbn4> So all I have to do is just replace the HPI in plugins folder with my modified HPI?
[16:29:17] <danielbeck> dbrooks Does the @DBC for IntrepidBuilder have a List<BuildConfigs> typed parameter?
[16:29:35] <dbrooks> Yes
[16:29:36] <danielbeck> (Assuming it's 0...N build configs)
[16:29:51] <dbrooks> in the parameter list of the IntrepidBuilder initializers
[16:30:10] <danielbeck> dbrooks Do you have a repeatableProperty for BuildConfig in the form, and are you able to configure them in the UI?
[16:30:19] <pbn4> Thanks for the PR advice, it wasn't obvious to me, but now I see that some issues are simple enough that their functionality can be tested with mock ups
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[16:30:50] <pbn4> jimklimov: thank you :)
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[16:31:25] <dbrooks> @danielbeck I have a repeatable field in my config.jelly. The UI is rendered properly and I can add as many configs as I want. However, when I hit save, and then edit the job again, none of my entered data is pre-populated in the form
[16:32:03] <danielbeck> dbrooks Look into using f:repeatableProperty with a config.xml for BuildConfig -- only then will it be databound I think
[16:32:11] <danielbeck> s/config.xml/config.jelly
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[16:32:58] <dbrooks> I have both the f:entry and the nested f:repeatable both with the same field="buildConfig" could this be the problem?
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[16:33:54] <jablo> jimklimov maybe off topic; we're making C++/Qt/Fortran application for mac/linux/windows. Some parts use qmake, some parts use cmake, some parts use raw makefiles. We're contemplating moving to cmake for everything, since cmake changelogs seem to indicate that fortran support is mature enough for our use. But... there's no repository/dependency download in cmake. Gradle doesn't support Fortran, so... which tool chain to zoom in on... is the big question
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[16:35:37] <jfemia> jablo: for cmake, this appears promising (never used it, though) https://github.com/ruslo/hunter
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[16:40:09] <jablo> jfemia: seems like it manages source code dependencies for external packages? we normally would put the binary compiled packages in a git repository and then set up the compile/link steps to include them. Hmm. Reading time I guess, thanks for the link.
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[16:41:06] <jfemia> jablo: yeah im not totally sure what it does other than download the libraries you tell it to download - unsure if they're in source or binary form (or either)
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[16:48:47] <dbrooks> @danielbeck so I moved my config.jelly into a BuildConfigs folder within resources and added a new config.jelly to IntrepidBuilder. I want to somehow link the two config.jellys so the IntrepidBuilder one just renders the BuildConfigs config.jelly
[16:49:35] <dbrooks> And am receiving this error: <st:include> Error setting property 'class', exception - org.apache.commons.beanutils.ConversionException: Error converting from 'String' to 'Class' io.intrepid.intrepidbuilder.BuildConfigs
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[16:50:22] <dbrooks> And this is what I have in IntrepidBuilder's config.jelly surrounded by <j:jelly tags: <st:include class="io.intrepid.intrepidbuilder.BuildConfigs" page="config.jelly" />
[16:51:50] <jimklimov> jablo, Sorry - for most of my concerns in distro management / release engineering some one tool suffices for a component - usually autotools or cmake, a few still have manually written Makefiles, rarely I see scons.
[16:52:37] <jimklimov> so usually it is just about running a standard tool (chain) and not looking too deep into it... or perhaps fixing a few trivialities here and there in the recipes
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[16:53:43] <jablo> jimklimov: Yes. That's my view too. Fascinating to be a place where we almost (but not quite) use a different cross-platform tool for each platform supported. Somehow it boggles the mind.
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[16:54:31] <dbrooks> @danielbeck, ignore that last error, I just misspelled something -_-
[16:54:40] <orrc> jglick: I poked a bunch of people from Stack Overflow, and we've now got the jenkins-pipeline synonyms approved \o/
[16:55:09] <danielbeck> dbrooks wait, is there only a single BuildConfigs, not a list?
[16:55:28] <kireevco> Hi all. I'm wondering if there is any downsides of running jenkins in docker on elastic beanstalk....
[16:56:00] <kireevco> vs managing ourselves on an ec2 instance (via ansible or something)
[16:56:19] <dbrooks> @danielbeck a list of type BuildConfig objects from 0..n
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[16:56:39] <danielbeck> dbrooks okay that looks like what I expected
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[16:58:37] <dbrooks> @danielbeck I wonder if my file/folder structure is causing this issue
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[16:58:47] <dbrooks> <st:include> Error setting property 'class', exception - org.apache.commons.beanutils.ConversionException: No value specified for 'Class'
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[16:59:11] <dbrooks> Even thought i have <st:include class=""
[16:59:23] <danielbeck> I don't think you need st:include
[16:59:27] <danielbeck> are you using repeatableProperty ?
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[17:00:20] <dbrooks> The repeatableProperty is inside my BuildConfig's config.jelly
[17:00:37] <dbrooks> I then have the st:include inside my IntrepidBuilder's config.jelly
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[17:03:57] <danielbeck> needs a repeatableProperty in IB/c.j referencing CB
[17:04:12] <kireevco> how people manage ssh keys when running jenkins in docker? Is it env var
[17:04:14] <kireevco> ?
[17:05:34] <dbrooks> @danielbeck so the repeatableProperty is associated with IntrepidBuilder and BuildConfig's config.jelly has the text entries and checkboxes in it?
[17:05:58] <danielbeck> dbrooks if the checkboxes correspond to properties of BC, yes
[17:06:18] <dbrooks> @danielbeck Okay, I will try that now, thanks!
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[17:11:46] <dbrooks> @danielbeck YES! You figured it out! Thank you so much!
[17:11:57] <danielbeck> dbrooks you're welcome
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[17:14:34] <dbrooks_> @danielbeck computer crashed, thank you once again!
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[17:17:02] <batmat> and now danielbeck is even being thanked for crashing computers, really this guy is good
[17:17:05] <batmat> :p
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[17:35:12] <orrc> haha
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[17:37:56] <jglick> orrc: bless you
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[17:57:12] <jablo> NO NO NO. Building with jenkins' multiplatform job type adds just enough extra characters to break Windows' stupid 250 character file name limit (everything included). No way I can shorten build-name, and parameters enough. YIKES.
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[18:03:16] <danielbeck> jablo there's a switch to use short workspace paths in the job config
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[18:06:02] <jablo> danielbeck: can't seem to find it that switch
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[18:07:10] <danielbeck> jablo configured with a system property :(
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[18:07:41] <danielbeck> java -Dhudson.matrix.MatrixConfiguration.useShortWorkspaceName=true jenkins.war
[18:07:53] <danielbeck> put that wherever Jenkins is started
[18:07:59] <danielbeck> (i.e. that middle part)
[18:09:55] <jablo> ah. cry. I think I'll pester the other developers to shorten the names (there are 174 character file names in these builds, with a lot of redundancy as far as I can see); I have another build which fails now just because the workspace name is slightly too long even without multiplatform matrix build in it. Man, 256 chars - it's so last century.
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[18:10:44] <Slide-O-Mix> ewwww
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[18:14:31] <casz> hmmm how to debug when groovy resource is not loaded :(
[18:15:25] <casz> bah... I just needed @Extension :|
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[18:17:42] <casz> Hmmm where do I report a hudson-behavior.js Uncaught TypeError?
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[18:19:12] <Slide-O-Mix> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org
[18:19:51] <casz> Your right, thanks... d0h :)
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[18:24:27] <danielbeck> Slide-O-Mix https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/HOSTING-284 huh?
[18:24:29] <jenkins-admin> HOSTING-284:Violation Comments to GitLab Plugin (To Do) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/HOSTING-284
[18:24:57] <danielbeck> Slide-O-Mix Oh, right, https://github.com/tomasbjerre/violation-comments-to-gitlab-plugin/blob/master/pom.xml#L22 that
[18:25:36] <JorgePlo> Are there any best practices for managing credentials differently on slave machines? For example I have deploy slaves in separate environments and I want the credentials to be stored on those environments only.
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[18:27:37] <Harlocken> does anyone here know how to call .getTiedJobs() on on label that contains multiple labelatoms? Basically I want to get the tied jobs to "AWS&&CMT&&CD"
[18:28:01] <Harlocken> Accessing Jenkins: http://jenkins.url/label/CMT&&CD&&AWS/ I can see the jobs tied to that expression.
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[18:29:55] <Slide-O-Mix> danielbeck: ja
[18:29:57] <casz> https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/blob/496703d0fe133445e10c7d8d07fa7afd351c8854/war/src/main/webapp/scripts/hudson-behavior.js#L417 this is the line, it seems to be an issue related to credentials.
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[18:36:29] <Harlocken> Okay, figured it out: def temp3 = Jenkins.instance.getLabel(computer.getNode().getLabelString().replaceAll(" ","&&"))
[18:36:30] <Harlocken> temp3.getTiedJobs()
[18:36:35] <Harlocken> Which is pretty awful.
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[18:37:56] <casz> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-42228
[18:37:58] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-42228:Javascript error credentials select (Open) https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-42228
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[18:40:39] <danielbeck> Harlocken This doesn't really do that. You can negate labels as well. One is a list of labels of a node, the other a boolean expression determining where a job can be built
[18:41:22] <danielbeck> Harlocken note that every node has a 'self-label' that is the same as its name
[18:41:36] <danielbeck> maybe that helps in whatever you're trying to accomplish
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[18:49:08] <kireevco> JorgePlo: Yeah. Good question
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[18:50:42] <Harlocken> danielbeck, I have an expression "AWS&&CMT&&CD" that a particular node has. This node is going to be destroyed, but before it is, I want to make sure that any jobs tied to via the expression are not currently running.
[18:51:43] <Harlocken> The jobs themselves are not tied to the Node's self-label, as that kinda prevents scaling.
[18:52:35] <danielbeck> Harlocken A job with the label !whatever may be running on that node
[18:53:11] <danielbeck> Harlocken why not just ask the API for running builds? Or use the offline-node CLI command that IIRC can wait until the node is idle?
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[18:55:20] <Harlocken> Our companies practice is that every job has a specific label that isn't Whatever. though a valid point in most situations. I'm not familiar with a way to check of the node is idle, but that might be a better approach.
[18:56:46] <cyrus_mc> http://pastebin.com/f2j0JZZb - have the following pipeline. My issue is around the git checkout command. It fails due to bad creds (I believe). If I switch to a public git repo it checks out just fine (cause that doesn't need credentials)
[18:57:09] <cyrus_mc> but using the credentialsId specified it fails with access denied
[18:57:51] <tang^> recheck the credentials?
[18:58:02] <cyrus_mc> tang^: what I have should work though right?
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[18:58:52] <danielbeck> Harlocken https://ci.jenkins.io/computer/%28master%29/api/xml?xpath=*/idle
[18:59:45] <tang^> cyrus_mc: probably? I'm not familiar enough with lists to say with certainty
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[19:03:45] <cyrus_mc> tang^: the lists and all that works. I mean it gets to the git stage with the correct git URL. Just that it fails to checkout due to invalid credentials (in fact I don't think it even supplies credentials when it tries to)
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[19:08:26] <Harlocken> danielbeck, thanks for the suggestion. I'll play around with it some more, and see what works.
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[19:12:58] <RandomStranger> For the extended choice parameter plugin I can define a Groovy Script file as the source. This is just a text file. Is this path relative? Where do I store the files? There's no wiki or documentation for this plugin.
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[19:29:06] <ahuang> cyrus_mc: make sure you are using the right credential for the right URL, ie: ssh for ssh:// and user/pw for https://
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[19:49:28] <mattupstate> did i miss something with the pipeline syntax lately? does `node` no longer get you an executor? must you use `agent` ?
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[19:51:27] <rtyler> mattupstate: https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax
[19:51:33] <rtyler> mattupstate: depends whether you mean scripted or declarative syntax
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[19:51:47] <rtyler> danielbeck: do you happen to know if init.groovy.d/ scripts support @Grab?
[19:51:47] <mattupstate> scripted
[19:52:27] <danielbeck> rtyler https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/2374
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[19:52:36] <danielbeck> according to the above probably not
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[19:53:04] <rtyler> awww
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[19:54:54] <mattupstate> oh, i think i might just be mistaking the master node as running the jobs when they are in fact running on slaves
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[19:57:19] <mattupstate> there's a considerable amount of lag as the master does this work before running the work on a slave...
[19:57:26] <mattupstate> particularly during git operations...
[19:58:10] <mattupstate> so it appeared the master was executing steps
[19:58:15] <nanonyme> Will be interesting to see if the on-demand-git Microsoft was planning actually results in anything useful
[19:58:32] <rtyler> nanonyme: ?
[19:58:47] <nanonyme> rtyler, they want to put all their stuff in a single Git repo and it doesn't scale
[19:59:07] <nanonyme> They're designing a VFS layer for Git so it will pull stuff from remote repo as needed
[19:59:45] <rtyler> ah
[19:59:46] <tang^> designed
[19:59:48] <tang^> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudioalm/2017/02/03/announcing-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system/
[20:00:16] <nanonyme> tang^, is it really production-ready at this point though?
[20:00:38] <RandomStranger> They're using it themself.
[20:01:06] <rtyler> it's like an inverse of Google's repo >_<
[20:01:07] <tang^> nanonyme: no
[20:02:32] <TobiX> tang^: And now gvfs has two expansions :(
[20:03:05] <nanonyme> My impression always was the main problem of Git on Windows was UAC
[20:03:34] <tang^> never encountered that
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[20:03:49] <nanonyme> As in, Git ends up hitting UAC a *lot* even though it never elevates. Turning UAC off completely speeds it up a lot
[20:04:16] <tang^> performance? interesting
[20:04:24] <tang^> I will not turn off UAC so it's nothing I could test
[20:05:24] <nanonyme> There was some cache option in Git which turns the performance from abysmal to fairly okay so that's mostly not needed
[20:05:32] <nanonyme> I think it was even enabled by default on Windows
[20:06:02] <nanonyme> But basically something in the design is wrong if disabling UAC affects performance
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[20:08:07] <nanonyme> I was suspecting it had something to do with it spawning processes without worries and was suspecting an approach using something like libgit2 might be a lot more robust for that reason
[20:08:59] <nanonyme> Anyway, regardless, will be interesting to see how that GVFS thing works out
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[21:01:39] <poagester> does anyone know if it's possible to include tfs in the pipeline groovy script?
[21:01:52] <poagester> as in pull to build
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[21:07:41] <andi> Hi, I'd like to setup jenkins with firefox and I'm faced to the problem where I'm missing the DISPLAY variable to run firefox correctly on the server where jenkins is running.
[21:07:49] <andi> Can you point me to a solution for that problem?
[21:08:08] <andi> I've already installed xvfb to be able to get a headless X server.
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[21:15:02] <danielbeck> andi perhaps https://plugins.jenkins.io/xvnc works for you?
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[21:17:31] <poagester> has the tfs plugin been added to the pipeline job?
[21:18:33] <poagester> i can't find any documentation to pull from tfs with the pipeline
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[21:19:25] <poagester> i was able to do it with a freestyle project, but was hoping that i could from the pipeline
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[21:30:30] <andi> danielbeck: Thanks, I'll have a try.
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[21:43:33] <stensonb> Hi all...I'm having troubles when trying to restrict a job to a particular agent...I keep seeing "Waiting for next available executor" in the job status...
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[21:46:14] <stensonb> using Jenkins 1.642.4, swarm-plugin 2.0
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[21:49:06] <Slide-O-Mix> I wish Jenkins understoond something other than Junit as a baseline...
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[21:51:23] <stensonb> my build agent has a label "foo" applied, and has usage set to "Only build jobs with label restrictions matching this node", and the node labels are "swarm foo"
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[21:51:57] <stensonb> ("swarm" seems to be injected automatically via the swarm jar: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Swarm+Plugin)
[21:52:29] <tang^> Slide-O-Mix: what do you mean?
[21:52:36] <stensonb> I setup my job with a label: "Node": "foo"
[21:53:00] <Slide-O-Mix> tang^: pretty much every other unit test framework has to convert their results into a junit format
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[21:53:43] <stensonb> and, when i try to build my job with parameters, I'm prompted for a node label...when I enter "foo" and hit "Show Nodes", jenkins displays a "Matching Nodes" list with my desired agent listed...
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[21:54:16] <stensonb> but, pressing "Build" causes the job to stall and the job's console shows "Waiting for next available executor"
[21:54:21] <tang^> Slide-O-Mix: yuck
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[21:55:29] <stensonb> i feel like i'm missing something obvious, but really confused as to why jenkins says it has matching nodes, but then still fails to build.
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[22:29:53] <RandomStranger> Just wondering, is there a way I can create stages in a pipeline from within a shell script I call from said pipeline?
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[22:32:09] <stensonb> Is each job suppose to have a "Restrict where this project can be run" option? mine don't...
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[22:35:04] <hrmpw> RandomStranger you could conceiveably pipe groovy into a file and then use the ‘load’ command to load that file into the current Pipeline as script but I’m not entirely sure why you would want to do that.
[22:36:22] <nanonyme> Slide-O-Mix, I thought it was basically the standard format
[22:36:31] <Slide-O-Mix> nanonyme: standard for junit, sure
[22:36:45] <Slide-O-Mix> NUnit does things differently, xUnit does things differently, etc etc
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[22:37:55] <RandomStranger> hrmpw Considering moving different tasks into script files, not in the pipeline, but still leveraging the stage view.
[22:38:10] <nanonyme> Slide-O-Mix, not familiar with the differences
[22:38:42] <Slide-O-Mix> nanonyme: they all originated with junit (nunit was a direct port I think), but as .NET has evolved, Nunit has changed things from the original format and so forth
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[22:46:04] <hrmpw> RandomStranger you can put the shell scripts somewhere centralized and then just call them from Pipeline, keeping the stages in the Pipeline.
[22:46:04] <hrmpw> https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/shared-libraries/
[22:46:21] <hrmpw> can use the resources dir of shared library for your scripts
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[23:27:01] <autojack> I could have sworn there was a Jenkins plugin that will let you configure a retry for failed builds, but I can't find it. does this ring a bell for anyone?
[23:27:26] <autojack> aw, Naginator plugin.
[23:27:33] <autojack> sure, reasonable name O_o
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