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[00:41:33] <jbossbot> git pull req opened [jbosstools-build-ci] (open) nickboldt jbosstools-aerogear project now includes both aerogear-hybrid and new cordovasim components in JIRA >> master https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build-ci/pull/115
[00:41:35] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-build-ci] push master c7cbb6b.. nickboldt jbosstools-aerogear project now includes both aerogear-hybrid and new cordovasim components in JIRA
[00:41:36] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-build-ci] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build-ci/commit/c7cbb6b8a
[00:41:36] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-build-ci] (closed) nickboldt jbosstools-aerogear project now includes both aerogear-hybrid and new cordovasim components in JIRA >> master https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build-ci/pull/115
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[00:49:04] <jbossbot> git pull req synchronize [jbosstools-jst] (open) dazarov JBIDE-18670 HTML5 Palette: Palette model refactoring https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-jst/pull/406
[00:49:04] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18670] HTML5 Palette: Palette model refactoring [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Daniel Azarov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18670
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[01:34:17] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18762] create python scriptlet to pull description field from a given component's JSON in order to determine its parent project [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18762
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[02:11:18] <jbossbot> git pull req synchronize [jbosstools-javaee] (open) scabanovich JBIDE-18750 Make CDI validation messages dependent on version https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-javaee/pull/270
[02:11:18] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18750] Make CDI validation messages dependent on version [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Viacheslav Kabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18750
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[02:39:16] <jbossbot> git pull req synchronize [jbosstools-jst] (open) dazarov JBIDE-18670 HTML5 Palette: Palette model refactoring https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-jst/pull/406
[02:39:16] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18670] HTML5 Palette: Palette model refactoring [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Daniel Azarov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18670
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[03:19:47] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-javaee] push master 957b650.. Viacheslav Kabanovich JBIDE-18750 Make CDI validation messages dependent on version
[03:19:47] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-javaee] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-javaee/commit/957b6507f
[03:19:48] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-javaee] (closed) scabanovich JBIDE-18750 Make CDI validation messages dependent on version https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-javaee/pull/270
[03:19:48] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18750] Make CDI validation messages dependent on version [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Viacheslav Kabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18750
[03:21:59] <esdw> ok
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[05:30:29] <plarsen> Is there a quick way to re-run the "create menu/desktop" icon part of the installer for JBDS?
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[06:04:33] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18763] Create tck tests for CDI 1.2 support [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Viacheslav Kabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18763
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[08:19:12] <xcoulon> good morning
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[08:34:29] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master cb282bd.. Max Rydahl Andersen update blog template
[08:34:29] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/cb282bd80
[08:34:29] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production 6c70b4c.. Max Rydahl Andersen use proper clean in dockerfile
[08:34:30] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production cb282bd.. Max Rydahl Andersen update blog template
[08:34:30] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/5149aff...cb282bd
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[08:38:55] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push build-production-2014-11-18-07-37-06-1013 URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/0000000...aae3f4f
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[08:39:07] <travis-ci> jbosstools/jbosstools-website#1013 (production - cb282bd : Max Rydahl Andersen): The build passed.
[08:39:08] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/5149aff9d34f...cb282bd8071a
[08:39:08] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/builds/41333772
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[08:40:46] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/6c70b4c7db5c...cb282bd8071a
[08:40:46] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/builds/41333771
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[09:10:35] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-website] (closed) adietish [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/275
[09:10:36] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
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[10:53:24] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master a21879a.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to...
[10:53:24] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/a21879a49
[10:53:25] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production a21879a.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to...
[10:53:25] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/a21879a49
[10:53:25] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
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[10:58:08] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push build-production-2014-11-18-09-56-22-1015 URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/0000000...94c71c5
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[10:58:19] <travis-ci> jbosstools/jbosstools-website#1014 (master - a21879a : Andre Dietisheim): The build passed.
[10:58:19] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/cb282bd8071a...a21879a49c0b
[10:58:20] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/builds/41342718
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[11:15:18] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-download.jboss.org] push master 4cc8476.. Mickael Istria Ant files to mirror Mars repo
[11:15:19] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-download.jboss.org] push master 7cc68e7.. Mickael Istria JBIDE-18748: Fix Simrel mirror script issue when not OTDT is in...
[11:15:19] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-download.jboss.org] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-download.jboss.org/compare/b331d61...7cc68e7
[11:15:19] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18748] Create and use an Eclipse Mars M3 target-platform [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Mickael Istria] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18748
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[11:47:24] <jbossbot> git pull req opened [jbosstools-website] (open) adietish [JBDS-3209] fixed image links https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/276
[11:47:25] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
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[11:54:50] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-website] (closed) adietish [JBDS-3209] fixed image links https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/276
[11:54:50] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master bdb0a31.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] fixed image links
[11:54:50] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/bdb0a3199
[11:54:50] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
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[11:59:18] <travis-ci> jbosstools/jbosstools-website#1017 (master - bdb0a31 : Andre Dietisheim): The build passed.
[11:59:18] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/a21879a49c0b...bdb0a3199228
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[12:01:25] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production bdb0a31.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] fixed image links
[12:01:25] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/bdb0a3199
[12:01:26] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
[12:04:55] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push build-production-2014-11-18-11-03-35-1018 URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/0000000...35aed53
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[12:07:29] <strykerawb> rhopp, ping
[12:07:41] <rhopp> strykerawb: Hi!
[12:07:41] <strykerawb> whoa
[12:07:46] <strykerawb> thats exciting ;)
[12:07:51] <rhopp> what? :-D
[12:08:00] <strykerawb> you had an exclamation! :D
[12:08:01] <strykerawb> JBIDE-18366
[12:08:02] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18366] Sometimes, EAP6/WildFly8/AS7 fails to start - Failed initializing module org.jboss.as.logging [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Rob Stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18366
[12:08:04] <strykerawb> looking at this issue
[12:08:18] <strykerawb> was wondering if just adding the proper flags fixes the issue for jpp or not
[12:08:28] <strykerawb> i cant replicate it so i dont like to make changes without confirmation
[12:09:15] <jbossbot> git pull req opened [jbosstools-website] (open) adietish [JBDS-3209] fixed another wrong image link https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/277
[12:09:16] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
[12:10:49] <rhopp> strykerawb: I can try it... But it will take some time. It only happens once in a while.
[12:11:03] <strykerawb> rhopp, yeah and its even harder to prove a negative ;)
[12:11:12] <rhopp> strykerawb: exactly
[12:11:19] <strykerawb> if adding the flags improves the situation 30% we might misidentify it as a proper fix ;)
[12:11:58] <strykerawb> basically, i've seen some stack overflow issues that suggest 1) adding the flag, and 2) adding some jars to the bootpath
[12:12:13] <strykerawb> im curious if both are needed or just the flag
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[12:18:04] <strykerawb> rhopp, what percent of restarts (if you recall) usually fail? was it usually only on restart, or on a normal start?
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[12:18:58] <rhopp> strykerawb: I'm constructing simple test right now to starts,restarts,stops server few times in a row... I will catch up with you when I finish&try it ;-)
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[13:16:01] <maxandersen> mistria: strykerawb and I been talking about using junit categories to separate tests from islow running integration tests.
[13:16:26] <maxandersen> mistria: see here for refresher: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2606572/junit-splitting-integration-test-and-unit-tests
[13:16:26] <jbossbot> Title: testing - Junit: splitting integration test and Unit tests - Stack Overflow
[13:16:54] <maxandersen> mistria: problem is that tycho surefire seem to (again) not be uptodate with basic surefire. is that sometihng we can help get fixed ?
[13:17:11] <maxandersen> so it will support incllude/excdlude of junit categories?
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[13:21:00] <strykerawb> mistria, http://maven.apache.org/surefire/maven-surefire-plugin/test-mojo.html#excludedGroups it seems the tycho-surefire-plugin does not support excludedGroups
[13:21:00] <jbossbot> Title: Maven Surefire Plugin – surefire:test
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[13:26:11] <maxandersen> strykerawb: so basically this class: https://github.com/eclipse/tycho/blob/master/tycho-surefire/tycho-surefire-plugin/src/main/java/org/eclipse/tycho/surefire/TestMojo.java need to do what this class in surefire does here: https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/blob/master/maven-surefire-common/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugin/surefire/AbstractSurefireMojo.java
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[13:27:52] <strykerawb> would make sense to copy both groups and excludedGroups functionality
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[14:31:50] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master f7a9d90.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] fixed another wrong image link
[14:31:51] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/commit/f7a9d9040
[14:31:51] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
[14:31:51] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-website] (closed) adietish [JBDS-3209] fixed another wrong image link https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/277
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[14:35:37] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/bdb0a3199228...f7a9d9040885
[14:35:37] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/builds/41360474
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[14:51:49] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push master 53bb8ed.. Xavier Coulon Adding #jbosstools-website IRC channel in notifications
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[15:02:51] <mistria> maxandersen strykerawb: I'm not sure what groups are for
[15:03:03] <strykerawb> https://github.com/junit-team/junit/wiki/Categories
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[15:08:29] <strykerawb> mistria, so basically we're looking to add the 'groups' and 'excludedGroups' into tycho
[15:08:37] <strykerawb> which basically just sets some surefire properties
[15:09:02] <mistria> strykerawb: ok, but I hope you're not on a hurry on this one
[15:09:21] <mistria> strykerawb: Tycho will release its 0.22 soon, which would for sure not include it
[15:09:42] <mistria> strykerawb: I can't guarantee when groups/excludeGroups will be available in Tycho
[15:09:45] <strykerawb> mistria, looking at the code it looks not complicated. It just passes some props
[15:10:02] <strykerawb> you sure we wouldnt be able to push it through?
[15:10:20] <mistria> strykerawb: did you open a request on bugzilla? Please make me a CC of it
[15:10:40] <strykerawb> not yet, no.
[15:16:54] <strykerawb> mistria, whats your eclipse bugzilla email to use?
[15:17:23] <mistria> strykerawb: mistria at redhat dot com, but I'm subscribed to Tycho bugs, so I already got your report
[15:17:33] <strykerawb> kk
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[15:48:57] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production f7a9d90.. Andre Dietisheim [JBDS-3209] fixed another wrong image link
[15:48:58] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production 53bb8ed.. Xavier Coulon Adding #jbosstools-website IRC channel in notifications
[15:48:58] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push production URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/bdb0a31...53bb8ed
[15:48:58] <jbossbot> jira [JBDS-3209] Blogpost for JBDS8/OpenShift - Quickstarts and links to custom cartridges [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Andre Dietisheim] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3209
[15:54:24] <jbossbot> git [jbosstools-website] push build-production-2014-11-18-14-52-46-1022 URL: http://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/compare/0000000...f64da76
[15:55:53] <nickboldt> mistria: hey, there's a -DskipTests but is there an equivalent for -DskipITests in maven?
[15:56:11] <nickboldt> strykerawb: ^
[15:56:21] <mistria> nickboldt: I don't think so
[15:56:38] <mistria> nickboldt: skipTests just tells surefire to not run tests
[15:56:53] <nickboldt> so the best way to exclude itests from a build is to properly move them into an /itests/ folder and have the container pom.xml not include that module?
[15:56:56] <nickboldt> mistria: ^
[15:57:00] <mistria> nickboldt: but you can configure multiple execution of surefire and use different parameters to control them
[15:57:19] <strykerawb> but we can't include or not include a module like itests
[15:57:20] <nickboldt> then you can have another pom for running all the i-tests in a second mvn install
[15:57:21] <strykerawb> right?
[15:57:28] <nickboldt> strykerawb: YES. we can
[15:57:43] <mistria> nickboldt: IMO, the best way is to have a RegularTestSuite and and IntegrationTestSuite and configure surefire to run only one
[15:57:44] * nickboldt goes to photoshop an Obama campaign poster
[15:57:45] <strykerawb> so there's a way to make a custom -DsomeFlag which could tell you to NOT build the itests folder?
[15:58:15] <nickboldt> strykerawb: your test could check for the flag and if defined it could skip itself
[15:58:22] <strykerawb> nickboldt, no thats not acceptable
[15:58:26] <strykerawb> i suggested that to max already
[15:58:30] <nickboldt> but I still prefer to have itests and tests in a separate plugin, folder, etc.
[15:58:43] <strykerawb> i think i prefer them in separate folders too
[15:58:44] <strykerawb> but
[15:58:50] <nickboldt> strykerawb: no buts
[15:58:54] <nickboldt> I don't like big buts
[15:59:04] <mistria> strykerawb: what's the issue with using TestSuites ?
[15:59:39] <strykerawb> i do use test suites... i suppose i could customize it that way... but how would we alternately select which test suite we want?
[15:59:40] <nickboldt> mistria: you mean having RegularTestSuite and IntegrationTestSuite, then setting the surefire <include> to only run the Regular* stuff?
[15:59:51] <strykerawb> lets assume i have 3 test suites. RegularSuite, IntegrationSuite, AllSuite
[16:00:00] <strykerawb> how would i get my pom to select one based on a -Dflag
[16:00:05] <mistria> nickboldt: yes
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[16:00:23] <nickboldt> strykerawb: then you could have 3 poms, each with a different <include> directive. which is ugly
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[16:00:33] <nickboldt> or you parameterize the exclude and do...
[16:00:34] <strykerawb> or i could use a profile i guess?
[16:00:44] <mistria> strykerawb: Put the name of your testSuite in a property, with the best default value, and if you want another just set the property
[16:00:48] <nickboldt> mvn install -DincludeOnlyThis=IntegrationSuite
[16:01:09] * nickboldt still likes the idea of all itests in the itests/ folder
[16:01:18] <nickboldt> then it's not so mix-and-match-messy
[16:01:32] <nickboldt> why do you want tests that take seconds and tests that take an hour in the same plugin?
[16:01:39] <nickboldt> that's like mixing core and UI tests :(
[16:02:06] <strykerawb> i like the idea of an itests folder but i have yet to follow the logic of how to alternatively include or or exclude it
[16:02:23] * nickboldt votes for moving itests to new plugins... from tests/o.j.t.some.test to itests/o.j.t.some.itest
[16:02:38] <nickboldt> strykerawb: you do the refactor, I'll PR you the pom to run them
[16:02:45] <mistria> strykerawb: I agree with nickboldt, why not just moving itests to a new plugin?
[16:03:00] <strykerawb> a new plugin is one issue
[16:03:04] <strykerawb> a new FOLDER is a second issue
[16:03:04] <nickboldt> strykerawb: it'll be less typing, no remembering -Dflags
[16:03:16] <strykerawb> how? i dont follow that logic
[16:03:26] <strykerawb> lets assume i have my itests in jbt-server/as/itests
[16:03:32] <nickboldt> strykerawb: if you can move them into a new plugin, then moving the plugins to a new folder is, how you say, trivial shit, brah
[16:03:33] <strykerawb> there's an itest plugin in there
[16:03:38] <strykerawb> yes
[16:03:44] <strykerawb> and then how do we selectively build itests or not?
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[16:03:52] <strykerawb> i fail to understand that part
[16:03:57] <mistria> strykerawb: a profile can do that
[16:04:04] <nickboldt> strykerawb: jenkins: build, tests, itests (three steps)
[16:04:15] <nickboldt> strykerawb: user at commandline: default is build + tests
[16:04:22] <strykerawb> mistria, so a profile in my jbt-server/as/pom.xml ?
[16:04:26] <mistria> strykerawb: or a property to control the value of skipTests for those modules
[16:04:34] <nickboldt> strykerawb: but then they can go into the all-itests/ folder and run all the itests in server, jmx, archives
[16:04:49] <nickboldt> or just go into server/itests/ and run mvn install there to build & run those tests
[16:04:50] <strykerawb> nickboldt, this is the first you've mentioned of an all-itests folder
[16:04:54] <strykerawb> where the hell does that live?
[16:05:02] <nickboldt> strykerawb: https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-server/blob/master/all-tests/pom.xml in parallel to that one
[16:05:20] <nickboldt> but it would refer to archives/itests/ instead of archives/tests, etc.
[16:05:22] <rhopp> strykerawb: Hi again. Sadly, I'm not able to reproduce that issue again :-( I tried it with multiple servers but with no luck :-(
[16:05:24] <strykerawb> so thats top level before as / archives / jmx ?
[16:05:40] <nickboldt> strykerawb: yes
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[16:05:48] <mistria> strykerawb: You know, it would be exactly the same for JUnit groups. If your issue is to make build configurable/conditional, you'll need to use a property or a profile anyway
[16:06:20] <nickboldt> strykerawb: there are 3 current use cases for your project:
[16:06:22] <nickboldt> a) build
[16:06:25] <nickboldt> b) run tests
[16:06:29] <nickboldt> c) build all tests
[16:06:39] <nickboldt> c) build and run all tests
[16:06:55] <nickboldt> so this would be 2 more use cases
[16:06:59] <nickboldt> d) run itests
[16:07:06] <nickboldt> e) build and run all itests
[16:07:18] <strykerawb> f) build and run all tests + itests
[16:07:30] <strykerawb> ok maybe thats dumb
[16:07:32] <strykerawb> feh
[16:07:46] <nickboldt> strykerawb: yeah, we could do that too. would you want to run itests and tests together? or just the itests?
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[16:08:26] <strykerawb> i have some ideas. Let me work on this shit.
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[16:08:29] <strykerawb> you guys go back to your own work
[16:08:55] <mistria> (strykerawb: note that moving itests to regular repositories is actually a great idea, I don't think it has been a good idea to have them in a separate repository)
[16:09:01] <nickboldt> strykerawb: according to Rodney's spreadsheet, this *is* my own work :|
[16:09:30] <strykerawb> i always felt itests should just live inside my component and next to tests
[16:09:31] <nickboldt> mistria: you just contradicted yourself. is it a great idea or not?
[16:09:34] <strykerawb> plugins / features / tests / itests
[16:09:40] <mistria> gercan: are you around
[16:09:55] <nickboldt> strykerawb: step one, move into itests/
[16:09:58] <mistria> nickboldt: it's a good one to move itests with component, it was a bad one to separate them
[16:10:04] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18764] Weird behavior of the packaging exclusions support [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18764
[16:10:31] <nickboldt> mistria: ok, then we agree here :) (except for itests that span multiple projects)
[16:11:08] <nickboldt> motivation to move all itests into their own repo was to run them ALL together, and not impact the build/unit test time
[16:11:21] <nickboldt> but at least factoring them out of the tests/ folder is a great start
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[16:17:51] <mistria> nickboldt: running a set of tests together is mainly a matter of creating the right test suites, no need to have a different repo for that
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[16:21:57] <gercan> mistria: het
[16:22:27] <gercan> mistria: I am back
[16:25:23] <nickboldt> gercan: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18748?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13020832#comment-13020832
[16:25:23] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18748] Create and use an Eclipse Mars M3 target-platform [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Mickael Istria] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18748
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[19:20:21] <jbossbot> git pull req opened [jbosstools-server] (open) nickboldt add itests to the main reactor but don't run its tests unless -Pitest enabled >> master https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-server/pull/303
[19:21:17] <jbossbot> git pull req closed [jbosstools-server] (closed) nickboldt add itests to the main reactor but don't run its tests unless -Pitest enabled >> master https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-server/pull/303
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[20:50:40] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18765] reorg/refactor integration tests in server tools so they can be run separately [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18765
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[20:56:56] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18766] Test latest Tern available form snaphot update site [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18766
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[21:00:31] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18767] Add support for Cordova 4.0.0 [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18767
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[21:34:39] <jbossbot> new jira [JBIDE-18768] Document use cases where JST Tern integration is taking place [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18768
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[22:08:16] <jbossbot> new jira [JBDS-3212] fix 404'd doc links [New (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Nick Boldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3212
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[22:24:47] <nickboldt> pleacu: I notice your feature descriptions love to include the word development. for development.
[22:24:58] <nickboldt> eg., featureName=JBoss Fuse Development (Fuse tooling related to Camel route development)
[22:25:06] <nickboldt> because it's development for development
[22:25:08] <nickboldt> ;D
[22:25:53] <pleacu> nickboldt: I'm thinking off the top of my head here... :p
[22:26:38] <pleacu> nickboldt: don't we require that BYOE users bring a JEE Eclipse?
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[22:35:04] <nickboldt> pleacu: we recommend it. we encourage it. but users are users.
[22:35:17] <jbossbot> git pull req opened [jbosstools-website] (open) fbricon Blog about Maven improvements in JBT 4.2/JBDS 8.0 https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-website/pull/278
[22:35:21] <nickboldt> so why not let them install into platform runtime binary and suck down all the stuff it's missing?
[22:35:33] <pleacu> nickboldt: yes
[22:35:45] <pleacu> nickboldt: whoa - what now?
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[22:37:27] <nickboldt> never mind, Johnny Utah, it's all good
[22:39:04] <pleacu> nickboldt: one of his finest works
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[22:40:10] <nickboldt> whoa, I mean, I know, right? whoah.
[22:40:33] <pleacu> nickboldt: zactly...
[22:42:10] <ldimaggi> kmarmaliykov, ping - you can try this - https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18521 - here now if you have time - vncviewer jawa32g2.mw.lab.eng.brq.redhat.com:1
[22:42:11] <jbossbot> jira [JBIDE-18521] On RHEL7, Browsersim cannot use the SWT Browser (GTK2) as the browser engine [Reopened (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Konstantin Marmalyukov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-18521
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