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[17:19:21] <bstansberry> jmesnil: hi jeff
[17:19:28] <jmesnil> bstansberry: hi
[17:19:44] <bstansberry> AS7-6961 ....
[17:19:45] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-6961] NPE when calling a runtime handler on a HornetQ server that just has been activated [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Minor, Jeff Mesnil] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-6961
[17:20:04] <bstansberry> is that test validating that the server is in "running" state before doing other stuff?
[17:20:07] <bstansberry> server == AS
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[17:20:22] <bstansberry> or is it just poking away at resources?
[17:20:25] <jmesnil> bstansberry: yes, the server is running
[17:20:50] <jmesnil> bstansberry: it also check that the hornetq-server is started and active
[17:21:17] <jmesnil> bstansberry: but it was checking the resources just after that while the corresponding services were still installing on the server
[17:22:15] <jmesnil> bstansberry: it only occurs when calling a runtime operation right after a backup hornetq-server failed over
[17:22:48] <bstansberry> jmesnil: so it performs the equivalent of this:
[17:22:50] <bstansberry> [standalone@localhost:9999 /] :read-attribute(name=server-state)
[17:22:50] <bstansberry> {
[17:22:50] <bstansberry>     "outcome" => "success",
[17:22:50] <bstansberry>     "result" => "running"
[17:22:51] <bstansberry> }
[17:23:08] <bstansberry> and retries until timeout or result => "running" ?
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[17:24:09] <jmesnil> no, it's not related to the AS7 state. the AS7 server is running fine during the test
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[17:24:25] <bstansberry> jmesnil: until ^^^ happens, the server is not booted
[17:24:30] <jmesnil> bstansberry: the check is on hornetq-server activation state
[17:24:47] <bstansberry> now, maybe it's valid to test what happens when a client tries to access a 1/2 booted server
[17:24:57] <bstansberry> e.g. it revealed a bug :)
[17:25:18] <jmesnil> bstansberry: the server is fully booted at the beginning of the test
[17:25:30] <bstansberry> jmesnil: how does it know that?
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[17:26:15] <jmesnil> bstansberry: hum, I assumed that calling container.start() would return after the server is fully booted: https://github.com/jmesnil/jboss-as/blob/4e699f79909cedfc935262da4cbe22cd01b710c7/testsuite/integration/manualmode/src/test/java/org/jboss/as/test/manualmode/messaging/HornetQBackupActivationTestCase.java#L85
[17:26:15] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 4e699f7.. Jeff Mesnil fix intermittent failures...
[17:27:13] * bstansberry looks
[17:27:34] <jmesnil> bstansberry: that said, I have other tests in the same class to check the :reload operation and I am not checking it like you suggested. Instead I checking that running-mode is NORMAL https://github.com/jmesnil/jboss-as/blob/4e699f79909cedfc935262da4cbe22cd01b710c7/testsuite/integration/manualmode/src/test/java/org/jboss/as/test/manualmode/messaging/HornetQBackupActivationTestCase.java#L85
[17:27:35] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 4e699f7.. Jeff Mesnil fix intermittent failures...
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[17:28:31] <bstansberry> jmesnil: ok, container.start() probably ensures that
[17:28:36] <bstansberry> sorry for the noise
[17:29:00] <bstansberry> jmesnil: i know it arq has logic for waiting for the check I outlined ^^^
[17:29:54] <jmesnil> bstansberry: I have a different check to detect when a server *reloads* (running-mode=NORMAL) https://github.com/jmesnil/jboss-as/blob/4e699f79909cedfc935262da4cbe22cd01b710c7/testsuite/integration/manualmode/src/test/java/org/jboss/as/test/manualmode/messaging/HornetQBackupActivationTestCase.java#L317
[17:29:55] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 4e699f7.. Jeff Mesnil fix intermittent failures...
[17:30:44] <jmesnil> bstansberry: iirc, I could not get it working using server-state because it remained "running" the whole time)
[17:31:02] <jmesnil> bstansberry: does that sound correct to use running-mode to detect full reload?
[17:31:12] <bstansberry> jmesnil: no
[17:31:19] <jmesnil> (if I could tell :reload to be blocking that'd be simpler)
[17:31:54] <bstansberry> aloubyansky was looking at improving ability to use reload in tests
[17:32:02] <bstansberry> :reload itself can't be blocking
[17:32:18] <bstansberry> because it kills the server
[17:32:31] <bstansberry> well, the relevant services
[17:32:33] <jmesnil> bstansberry: not in standalone mode?
[17:32:48] <bstansberry> to make a blocking reload requires work on the client side
[17:33:03] <bstansberry> i.e. the low level :reload will never be blocking
[17:33:23] <bstansberry> the CLI has a high-level reload command that supports blocking
[17:34:43] <jmesnil> bstansberry: ok, I'll check with alexey to change that code when he improves reload support for tests
[17:35:53] <bstansberry> jmesnil: the "running-mode" attribute returns "RUNNING" or "ADMIN-ONLY"
[17:36:05] <bstansberry> which doesn't relate to reload
[17:36:15] <bstansberry> well,...
[17:36:40] <bstansberry> the reload op can trigger shift of a server into/out of ADMIN-ONLY
[17:37:04] <bstansberry> but that's unrelated to whether the server is started or not
[17:37:30] <jmesnil> bstansberry: can't remember why I changed server-state to use running-mode in the test. I'll change that…
[17:38:34] <bstansberry> jmesnil: it's all very racy
[17:38:38] <bstansberry> the problem is
[17:38:51] <bstansberry> you execute the reload op and now there is a race
[17:39:04] <bstansberry> the op has to return before the reload really happens
[17:39:17] <bstansberry> because the reload will kill the services that respond to the client
[17:39:39] <bstansberry> so if the client turns around and make another request (e.g. to check the server-state)
[17:40:02] <bstansberry> it's possible it sees "running" because the "stop" part of the reload hasn't happened yet
[17:40:17] <bstansberry> this is all the stuff alexey dealt with in the CLI
[17:40:50] <jmesnil> bstansberry: ah ok, I see. ok the test check is not correct
[17:41:18] <bstansberry> jmesnil: one possibility is to use the embedded CLI to do the reload stuff and use the high level reload alexey added
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[17:42:02] <bstansberry> jmesnil: BTW, this isn't urgent; I just saw the JIRA and let it distract me, and now you too!
[17:42:34] <jmesnil> bstansberry: it's ok, TGIF ;)
[17:42:44] <bstansberry> but if you see weird issues related to incompletely started servers, hopefully this will save you some time thinking about them :)
[17:43:39] <jmesnil> bstansberry: that + integrated HornetQ server failing over gives me headaches :)
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