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[09:16:20] <clapont> hi, everyone!
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[10:01:24] <toastersonerson> Nice OpenBSD has now a current DRM kernel driver https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=159159173208497&w=2
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[10:25:18] <sjorge> So that makes FreeBSD, OpenBSD (and NetBSD I think) that all use the linux DRM drivers?
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[10:43:27] <toastersonerson> Looks like it.
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[10:51:29] <am11> if an application requires environment to have certain privilege, is there a formal convention to specify it in the userland?
[10:51:34] <am11> (to notify user that certain privilege is missing from the environment when they execute that application)
[11:04:26] <yuripv> sjorge: now waiting for illumos to do the same :)
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[12:14:07] <jlevon> am11: unless it's an (smf) service then no
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[12:20:10] <toastersonerson> ENOPERM?
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[12:22:57] <jlevon> toastersonerson: EPERM isn't something applications would return, that's an API thing...
[12:23:26] <toastersonerson> ah not even as return code?
[12:25:10] <jollyd> sjorge: hopefully updated drm with the october hipster snapshot if time permits...
[12:26:06] <toastersonerson> jollyd (IRC): we where talking about the kernel driver. including amdgpu
[12:26:30] <am11> we can check EPERM and print helpful error for the user which privilege to look for.
[12:26:35] <jollyd> toastersonerson: that's what I am talking about, but only i915 for now
[12:29:04] <jollyd> toastersonerson: to provide newer libdrm >= 2.4.97 I had to update parts of drm/i915 and now I am looking at updating more bits
[12:29:26] <toastersonerson> ou nice :)
[12:29:42] <toastersonerson> are we using the linux one?
[12:30:30] <jollyd> partly, anyway ours is a port of an old Linux one
[12:31:12] <toastersonerson> yeah we may want to look into porting the current one like openbsd has. But not for now.
[12:33:22] <toastersonerson> in any case nice work :)
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[12:47:58] <am11> jlevon: for #4963, would the test go somewhere like usr/src/test/libc-tests/tests/threads/
[12:48:57] <jlevon> sounds good am11
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[12:52:21] <am11> i was trying to figure out a way to set the privilege programatically to make a meaningful test case to assert 'no EPERM' transpired. not sure if there is a way to do so.
[12:56:05] <jlevon> I'm not sure I'm following exactly
[12:56:16] <jlevon> you can remove individual privileges as needed
[13:00:56] <am11> ok, cool. i was thinking something like: `if(environment has PRIV_PROC_PRIOUP or PRIV_PROC_PRIOCNTL privilege) {remove it} then test pthread_setschedparam with lower-then-higher priority asserting there was no EPERM`.
[13:08:43] <jlevon> see priv_ineffect() and priv_set()
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[15:43:49] <Woodstock> does anyone know who is responsible for our reviewboard?
[15:45:11] <tsoome> LeftWing has been poking it
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[15:45:50] <Woodstock> recently?
[15:47:06] <tsoome> Im not really sure... but he should be awake soon:)
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[15:49:15] <tsoome> Woodstock if you have time, could you please re-test https://code.illumos.org/c/illumos-gate/+/483 ? it was rather stupid error there:)
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[16:51:34] <Woodstock> tsoome: i have tested that already.
[16:51:57] <tsoome> was it better?
[16:53:56] <Woodstock> yes, it works
[16:54:30] <tsoome> oh, many thanks!
[16:55:25] <tsoome> .oO back to making beef wellington.
[16:56:59] <jlevon> nice
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[19:48:47] <KungFuJesus> tsoome: https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/commit/35f318d5eb4055114a1be5b52b03efe211e014db <-- who the hell is Tod? :-p
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[19:50:26] <jbk> rod's brother? :)
[19:51:39] <KungFuJesus> Is tod in this context "time of day"? I find it weird SPARC has a soft "time of day" driver
[19:52:57] <KungFuJesus> from the looks of the code it's returning back timespecs
[19:53:06] <tsoome> :)it is time of day, indeed.
[19:53:48] <KungFuJesus> interesting, looks like it controls a wakeup timer from the firmware somewhere? Is this the analog to the RTC based wakeup in PC land?
[19:54:47] <tsoome> https://books.google.ee/books?id=r_cecYD4AKkC&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=solaris+tod&source=bl&ots=oExei-AEBT&sig=ACfU3U0aorGwGeiCyWP7jSTgMePmHmnU5Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinqJ-v5PLpAhVLzqYKHaciA9MQ6AEwBHoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q=solaris%20tod&f=false
[19:55:27] <tsoome> good old solaris internals book
[19:56:05] <tsoome> Altho, I think my first solaris related book was Panic! .)
[19:56:45] <KungFuJesus> weird, it's in the EEPROM?
[19:57:04] <KungFuJesus> This blurb here doesn't specify which EEPROM
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[19:57:35] <tsoome> yes, it was needing the power... and those old systems with battery lasting for ~10-12 years..
[19:58:02] <tsoome> then one day you had no TOD, and you knew you need new eeprom chip.
[19:58:12] <tsoome> :)
[19:58:31] <KungFuJesus> that's an odd design choice
[20:00:14] <KungFuJesus> that book also seems to describe the actual clock micro as though it were implemented in the EEPROM. Is this some sort of FPGA or programmable logic controller?
[20:04:59] <KungFuJesus> ah looks like this was mostly for SPARCStation-y hardware. I assume systems with a BMC forego this?
[20:05:19] <tsoome> I do not really know details about it:) My interest about electronics did end when I did put together simple radio receiver as a kid:)
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[20:24:49] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12577 px: NULL pointer errors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[20:54:20] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12689 Want c11 uchar.h -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at fingolfin dot org>
[21:01:14] <tsoome> oo, nice:)
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[21:10:31] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12777 libc unwinding confused by indirect pointer encoding -- Patrick Mooney <pmooney at pfmooney dot com>
[21:23:24] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12826 update to smatch 0.6.1-rc1-il-6 -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
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