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[00:15:49] <toastersonerson> LeftWing is there a guide to install a cross compile rust for illumos?
[00:16:05] <toastersonerson> I have alinux desktop and need to build a rust binary.
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[00:18:14] <toastersonerson> BTW. LeftWing have you posted your loud-init script somewhere? I would love to adapt it to AWS.
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[00:20:50] <am11_> toastersonerson: i spent whole day porting mono. you were right about changes in thread model, but it is sorted out. stepping closer to get hello-world working with mono runtime. :)
[00:21:31] <toastersonerson> yay we are getting mono and dotnet again :)
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[00:23:00] <am11_> this is mini-mono runtime which is ported to dotnet/runtime repo. i think with few more configurations in mono/mono repo, we can light up both illumos and solaris.
[00:23:57] <am11_> (i am cross-compiling using illumos/sysroot, soon we will have official docker image for building all kinds of stuff: https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-buildtools-prereqs-docker/pull/324)
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[00:24:51] <toastersonerson> am11_ (IRC): awesome
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[09:28:09] <yuripv> toastersonerson: again?
[10:09:41] <am11_> yuripv: mono v4 is available for illumos/solaris, but since v5, there were some breaking changes and solaris support was not updated.
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[10:12:55] <yuripv> Got it!
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[16:08:36] <sjorge> *cries of joy echo around kapellen* Jun 7 14:56:39 omniosce uchcom: [ID 564672 kern.warning] WARNING: Chip version: 0x31
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[17:17:05] <andyf> sjorge - Nice!
[17:18:06] <LeftWing> sjorge: Ooer!
[17:36:46] <andyf> sjorge - why did you lead me to ucbcmd/tset? oh dear
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[18:59:59] <am11_> toastersonerson: the core part of mono runtime (aka mono-mini) is done: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/37560. changes are set to auto-mirrored to mono/mono repo.
[19:01:19] <am11_> coreclr, mono-mini and full mono all three runtimes eventually use dotnet BCL libraries from dotnet/runtime repo, so that work will light up all three runtimes for user apps.
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[19:23:08] <sjorge> So... I'm a bit confused, mono used to be a opensource implementation of the dotnet runtime (2.x I think?)
[19:23:35] <sjorge> The Microsoft drop their opensource version, now both use cotecrl?
[19:24:05] <sjorge> Or are some of the mono specific thing for dealing with posix systems now just use in the Microsoft version too?
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[19:29:52] <am11_> sjorge: current mono v5x is conforming to .NET Framework 1.0-4.8 (latest) and .NET Standard 2.1 (which .NET Core 2.1+ and .NET Framework 4.8 also conform). In IPC packages, mono v4 is available, since v5 had the reimplementation of threading parts, which abstracts over multiple TPL models, including iOS, tvOS, Android etc.
[19:31:09] <am11_> with .NET 5, .NET Framework, .NET core and MonoMini are being converged, such that user can choose whether they want to run .NET 5 with coreclr or mono (for tvOS, Android, Unity gaming etc.).
[19:32:21] <am11_> so we will end up with single brand .NET with multiple runtimes. hence less terminologies to remember. :)
[19:38:55] <sjorge> Ah
[19:41:02] <sjorge> So if you stick to .net core 2.1 stuff, the code can theoretically run on both mono or .net framework (widows)
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[19:57:19] <am11_> yup, it should work. some low level apis might throw PlatformNotImplementedException, which editor analyzers highlight for the developers. for instance, named semaphores are not available on some platforms, if we try to target those platforms, developer will get the build-time/edit-time warning.
[19:58:24] <am11_> (targetting platform == setting RID in project file)
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[20:46:10] <sjorge> Nice
[20:46:55] <sjorge> andyf / LeftWing : cleaned up some of the code today, but that was it... many this is confusing
[20:47:15] <sjorge> And the amount of kernel dumps I triggered be erm being confused between var *var &var :s
[20:47:33] <sjorge> If this every starts to actually work, the review/fix cycle will be insane
[20:48:10] <sjorge> andyf: oh you have not found the end of the rabbit hole with my reset core yet?
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[22:16:34] <andyf> sjorge - It's something in the ucb libtermcap, but the code is so old in style, using static buffers, global variables, unsafe copies. I didn't track down the problem in 20 minutes. The memory overrun that's occuring trashes the stack too.
[22:17:01] <andyf> It's probably caused by the length and complexity of the termcap for xterm these days
[22:17:09] <andyf> (TERM=screen does not cause it to crash for example)
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[23:18:57] <v_a_b> andyf sjorge Setting TERM to vt100 will prevent "reset" crashing, too.
[23:19:07] <sjorge> good to know for now
[23:19:30] <sjorge> Can we say swap termcap for a *BSD one?
[23:21:17] <v_a_b> Just looked at /usr/share/lib/termcap -- what a monster :-)
[23:21:42] <sjorge> Interestingly smartos does not have issues with TERM set to xterm
[23:21:51] <sjorge> maybe it's bash vs whatever the shell on OmniOS is?
[23:22:04] <v_a_b> Not sure if BSD versions will be better. It appears to be the size of the individual entry for the selected $TERM.
[23:22:22] <v_a_b> Does SmartOS even have the *BSD termcap and utilities?
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[23:27:40] <sjorge> I don't know
[23:27:52] <sjorge> Just never had the issue on SmartOS (I use clear ; reset) a lot
[23:27:59] <sjorge> and retested to confirm it worked fine
[23:28:01] <sjorge> and it does
[23:28:20] <sjorge> Hopefully someone (ex-)joynet knows
[23:29:23] <v_a_b> I usually use clear and resize so I never noticed the problem with the old ucb reset/tset stuff.
[23:29:43] <v_a_b> You could also use "stty sane", depending on what you want to reset.
[23:30:19] <andyf> smartos ships with GNU reset I think
[23:30:36] <andyf> well, try `which reset` and see where it is
[23:35:14] <v_a_b> The OmniOS version of greset is in library/ncurses and also seems to work :-)
[23:42:42] <andyf> As I said, this is a general illumos issue (the bug in libtermcap). I'l take a look later in the week if I have time
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