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[00:25:58] <jlevon> awesome
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[00:38:06] <LeftWing> usr/src/cmd/ttymon is a crime scene
[00:38:26] <LeftWing> Let's close a million file descriptors and never check if it went well
[00:38:39] <LeftWing> It's only login, who cares about that!
[00:38:47] <rzezeski> CSI: usr/src/uts
[00:38:55] <jlevon> heh
[00:39:07] <jbk> well i've been told in the cloud you should never have to login to your instances if you're doing it right
[00:39:10] <jbk> *runs*
[00:39:19] <LeftWing> Also, why even indent!
[00:39:23] <LeftWing> Indenting is for suckers
[00:39:24] <jlevon> you're taking me back to my first SMF fix back in 2005. that shit was terrifying
[00:39:37] <LeftWing> I've turned off the smatch gag, jlevon
[00:39:39] <LeftWing> HERE GOES
[00:39:46] <jlevon> lordy
[00:40:01] <jbk> cue explosion gif
[00:40:59] <LeftWing> https://gist.github.com/jclulow/f4d6a65f8dd0de7b3b60518df8c53cfe
[00:41:11] <LeftWing> We have gone to the zoo
[00:42:08] <LeftWing> They have used so many extra parentheses in places they are not needed, but left out parentheses in the few places where they would demonstrably help
[00:42:31] <jlevon> heh
[00:47:20] <rmustacc> That's not as bad as I expected!
[00:47:44] <LeftWing> Oh I'm just getting started
[00:48:02] <LeftWing> jlevon: Did cstyle used to say "put the braces wherever you damn well please"?
[00:48:22] <jbk> i wonder how much of that code originates from NJ
[00:48:35] <jlevon> if I recall, that's not changed for the whole time I've known
[00:48:50] <jlevon> but I never really spelunked
[00:49:02] <jbk> (which does prompt the question of what would be the equivalent of newark :P)
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[03:59:46] <Smithx10> New Jersey is sometimes referred to as the "armpit" of america. :P
[04:00:00] <Smithx10> You can't turn left either.
[04:00:09] <Smithx10> :(
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[04:19:05] <jbk> i had a friend who lived in holmdel, and whose dad worked at bell labs (then lucent).. that area is actually pretty nice
[04:19:51] <Smithx10> haha, princeton and many places around there are cool
[04:20:03] <Smithx10> Actually NJ has some nice places :)
[04:20:36] <jbk> at least back in 2002 or so, Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi, Joe Pesci all had houses not too far from there
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[04:50:25] <Smithx10> jbk: in rust, whats the go to http client?
[04:52:20] <jbk> i'm not sure offhand actually
[04:53:25] <Smithx10> I was thinking of playing around with making rust http requests against cloudapi
[04:53:25] <Smithx10> lol
[04:53:38] <Smithx10> just to learn
[04:58:44] <Smithx10> seems like "reqwest" is the popular one
[05:53:16] <LeftWing> Smithx10: reqwest is indeed pretty good
[05:53:46] <Smithx10> I was looking for a http sig auth lib but that looks to be kinda missing
[05:54:00] <LeftWing> I am not aware of one of those.
[05:54:04] <Smithx10> parsing keys seems to exist tho,
[05:54:50] <Smithx10> There is these thingies https://git.asonix.dog/explore/repos?q=http-sig&tab=&sort=recentupdate
[05:57:48] <Smithx10> I wonder if rust will have a crypto like library in std
[06:09:51] <jbk> one thing i wonder about -- since rust tends to often do lots of aggressive optimizations, which can be problematic for crypto, if it'll just be linking against implementations in C or assembly, or how that would be handled
[06:10:31] <jbk> e.g. if you're trying to do constant time ops, you don't want the compiler to go in and undo that
[06:13:17] <Riastradh> Not worse for Rust than for C.
[06:22:09] <Smithx10> Just looking at it for the first time, it looks like stuff is a bit scattered
[06:23:19] <Smithx10> for crypto that is, but nothing really irritating.
[07:36:06] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12632 serengeti: NULL pointer errors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[07:43:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12658 lw8: NULL pointer errors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[10:12:48] <leoric> this seems to be something new...
[10:13:04] <leoric> svc.ipfd[492]: firewall update failed for routing/route:default
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[10:26:06] <ptribble> There's been a thread on the qemu-devel list about getting Solaris 10 working on the qemu sun4u emulator
[10:27:14] <ptribble> The symptoms seen there are the same as booting SPARC illumos under qemu, namely that it looks like it's working but doesn't seem to take keyboard input
[10:27:20] <ptribble> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2020-05/msg01853.html
[10:28:44] <Agnar> ptribble: slightly off-topic: do you know if we can use qemu to emulate an amd64 on sparcv9?
[10:30:00] <ptribble> That should work
[10:31:05] <ptribble> And I recall someone building qemu on Solaris/SPARC relatively recently, although current qemu has dropped any solarish support
[10:44:59] <LeftWing> As I recall they did some deeply questionable coroutine thing
[10:45:32] <LeftWing> Which almost certainly requires some OS-specific porting
[10:45:36] <Agnar> ptribble: I have a qemu binary somewhere
[10:46:27] <LeftWing> ptribble: If you can convince someone to get illumos working perhaps we can use it for nightly (weekly? ;) builds
[10:47:05] <igork> Agnar: i have tested sometime ago amd64 qemu with linux sparc64 T5220 - it was working
[10:47:33] <igork> amd64 linux under dilos on sparc T5220
[10:47:48] <igork> it was working, but slow
[10:48:08] <LeftWing> It's SPARC, that's not a surprise
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[10:49:04] <LeftWing> It may be elegant, but it's not winning any land speed records
[10:51:23] <Agnar> it's not about speed here
[10:51:35] <Agnar> I have a nasty little stupid x86 application ;)
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[13:17:05] <EisNerd> HPE support is funny, now they think the system board has to be replaced, but they have a spare part shortage (of course if they always replace them proactively first) and send me a mail thyt it will be avail at priority at 15th. Half an hour later some one from HPE called me and asked to send an technician on site on monday.
[13:18:27] <toastersonerson> EisNerd (IRC): Yep that HPE for ya. My PCI-E NIC is broken. Replace the system board.
[13:19:00] <toastersonerson> THe disk light is flashing red. Can you please run a full disgnostics?
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[13:20:13] <toastersonerson> It got to the point where I had a shell scipt trigger and send me an email with the disgnostics.
[13:24:49] <ptribble> It's not just HPE with odd support practices
[13:25:21] <ptribble> Sun used to insist on sending an engineer to change a hot-swap disk in an array
[13:26:03] <ptribble> But seemed to think that replacing a motherboard or backplane was something a customer could do on their own
[13:27:45] <Agnar> oh, I had two times sun sending a "new" part where it was obvious that they knew that it was broken as well, just to fulfill the SLA...
[13:35:13] <andyf> When I ran a load of T6340 blades in chassis, the blade was the FRU
[13:35:24] <andyf> so even for a failed DIMM you'd get a completely new blade
[13:37:18] <Agnar> google does that with racks...at least that's what the rumours say ;))
[13:51:32] <Agnar> guys, I wrote a small patch for sar(1) and want to integrate it into illumos. I got that the preferred way is using gerrit. If I use gerrit, which branch shall I select? and I should really push against origin (i.e. github.com/illumos/illumos-gate)??
[13:53:22] <Woodstock> thats the wrong origin
[13:54:23] <Agnar> so against *my* fork?
[13:54:25] <Woodstock> use agnar at code dot illumos.org:illumos-gate.git, assuming agnar is your illumos user name
[13:55:07] <Woodstock> and iirc you push to refs/for/master to create the review
[13:55:39] <Agnar> yes
[13:55:48] <Agnar> ok
[13:55:50] <Agnar> got it
[13:59:01] <andyf> I somehow created https://www.illumos.org/issues/12708 against 'site'... could somebody with access please move it over to gate?
[13:59:45] <andyf> For reference, all I did was go to https://www.illumos.org/issues then click on the small "+ new issue" button at the top right.. it seems to default to the "site" project
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[14:48:51] <richlowe> andyf: did you go to /issues directly?
[14:50:59] <richlowe> andyf: also if you want to pkglint illumos, you probably want to fix the just straight up packaging warnings first
[14:51:10] <richlowe> andyf: (look in nightly.log, they're ignored)
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[15:37:43] <domag02> hi!
[15:41:54] <EisNerd> ptribble: in this case HPE also asked if we can replace the system board our selfs
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[16:13:20] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12657 opl: NULL pointer errors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[16:58:25] <rmustacc> andyf: Yeah, I noticed that the to. richlowe it happens on the mobile view in a few places.
[17:08:15] <richlowe> rmustacc: that things still link to /issues directly?
[17:08:25] <richlowe> LeftWing: maybe that's the answer?
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[17:10:23] <rmustacc> richlowe: I just noticed a couple times when on a mobile view (which happens if you have a small enough browser window) then sometimes new issue defaults to site and has all the projects.
[17:11:52] <wonko> So this is a bit of a long shot, but would I see any issues with running kea dhcp on a centos 7 LX zone?
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[17:12:11] <rmustacc> Probably depends on the sockopts it wants.
[17:12:13] <wonko> I see the DHCP requests coming in but Kea is saying it has no route to host to send the response.
[17:12:18] <richlowe> rmustacc: well, we've been trying to work that out for years at this point (well, LeftWing has I guess), so any clue is valuable
[17:12:24] <wonko> doing this all via relay, btw
[17:12:30] <richlowe> I mean, now all the site stuff is in github, we could also just close the site project too.
[17:12:32] <richlowe> now I think of it.
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[17:14:15] <wonko> so it should all just be UDP
[17:23:10] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12608 want memory arena for vmm applications -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
[17:30:44] <wonko> ok, this is definitely odd. It says no route to host but I can ping the relay (where it's sending the response) just fine. Hmmm.
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[18:14:53] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12656 ngdr: NULL pointer errors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[18:17:20] <wonko> https://gist.github.com/bhechinger/04ab270184d504af8e001b32c69eef4e
[18:17:36] <wonko> I'm going to setup a vm and see if that behaves differently.
[18:40:31] <sjorge> jbk / Agnar or any other ldap user, is there a way to make kernel smbsrv pull passwords info from ldap?
[18:40:47] <sjorge> Ideally as a hash, but I guess ok if it needs clear text
[18:51:24] <jbk> not offhand..
[18:52:14] <jbk> depending on how the protocol itself works, i'm not sure how workable that'd be unfortunately (I think that's at least part of the reason why the pam module has to maintain what is efffectively its own shadow file)
[18:53:56] <sjorge> Yeah
[18:54:07] <sjorge> But... thats rather annoyin
[18:54:27] <jbk> i think the alternative is kerberos :)
[18:54:51] <sjorge> ldap + pubkey in ldap was working nicely
[18:55:00] <sjorge> so I was hoping to not have to touch kerberos
[18:55:21] <sjorge> I wonder if I can just enable the pam module, then have a script that fetches the hashes from ldap and write it the file it wants
[18:55:21] <jbk> that is a common sentiment
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[18:55:36] <sjorge> And if the hash is not present, check if userPassword is clear and generate it if so
[18:55:40] <jbk> (not wanting to touch kerberos)
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[18:56:04] <sjorge> but... having ntlm hashes in ldap would be nice for freeradius too when doing mschapv2
[18:56:15] <sjorge> But that seems to want a whole lot of the samba schema which I do not want
[18:57:57] <sjorge> Also I think I found another bug in ldapclient, but not sure it's worth fixing or really a 'bug'
[18:58:14] <sjorge> Having openldap close idle connections after 5 minutes... will brick ldapclient and will require a restart of ldapclient
[18:58:35] <sjorge> Then again, the common advice seems to be... don't set that as lots and lots of things break
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[19:04:31] <sjorge> Well... that a big ugh "PAM_IGNORE is returned if the user is not in the
[19:04:32] <sjorge> local /etc/passwd repository"
[19:04:42] <sjorge> It indeed seems to want it in /etc/passwd!
[19:05:06] <sjorge> I might have to do more pam spelunking
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[19:20:53] <sjorge> jbk: I have an ugly hack!
[19:21:24] <sjorge> I can use a cron to read userPassword and if is plaintext, turn it into an NTLM hash, and write it to /var/smb/smbpasswd
[19:21:32] <sjorge> Then it picks it up just fine for ldap accounts
[19:21:42] <sjorge> I can't set it using passwd though
[19:22:02] <sjorge> As that does enforce a check for the entry in /etc/passwd unfortunately
[19:22:17] <sjorge> I need to punt on that as I have a few ideas how to make it easier but neither are really good
[19:22:29] <sjorge> I'll gather my toughts over the weekend and create a ticket
[19:22:43] <sjorge> I'll poke you and gwr on it for feedback on the possible solutions/workarounds
[19:39:36] <LeftWing> sjorge: I thought NTLM hashes were going away because they're horribly insecure
[19:58:39] <Smithx10> LeftWing: when does that stop anyone lol
[19:58:58] <Smithx10> Pretty sure triple des is still lingering in the MS ecosystem
[20:00:53] <Smithx10> errr or was it chapv2, that incorrectly implemented triple des ./shrugs
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[21:26:32] <andyf> richlowe thanks for sorting that issue. yes, I most likely just typed illumos.org/issues into the address bar. I don’t use bookmarks much.
[21:31:46] <andyf> richlowe adding pkglint threw up a few issues that I fixed and are included with the review, but I’ll take a look at nightly.log too. it was pretty mint clean really, I just want to catch things like the McClellan
[21:32:02] <andyf> um. mcxlx
[21:32:10] <andyf> autocorrect!
[21:32:27] <andyf> *lint clean
[21:32:48] <andyf> that’s it, I’ll stop trying to use my ‘phone for this.
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[22:05:52] <sjorge> LeftWing: looks like /var/smb/smbpasswd has lmhash and nthash
[22:05:57] <sjorge> well lmhash field is emptuy for me
[22:06:04] <sjorge> And the nthash is... interesting
[22:06:13] <sjorge> It's not the one used by samba or by say freeradius
[22:06:20] <sjorge> We have it swapped
[22:06:29] <sjorge> jbk: I present to you... my working hack https://gist.github.com/sjorge/588bf24788ebb4e2291d6d6dc93c2629
[22:06:34] <sjorge> I run this every hour in cron
[22:06:36] <sjorge> it... works
[22:06:42] <sjorge> Also... I want to puke
[22:07:11] <sjorge> The last bit of swapping the result I get from smbencrypt or samba's smbpasswd was interesting and I had to look at the smb_auth.c and smb_util.c source
[22:07:24] <sjorge> But enough for now, I'll mull it over and open an issue
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[22:45:12] <richlowe> andyf: I'm surprised lint is as happy with the nonsensical variant stuff the build complains about (unless someone fixed that and I didn't notice?)
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[22:46:14] <richlowe> oh, they're still there
[22:47:27] <andyf> I'll take a look - there was a lint problem in the maths library package but that was a real problem
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