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[00:00:18] <ypankov> LeftWing: got it, it was re: "unless it was at boot"
[00:00:19] <LeftWing> I'm pretty sure we preallocate all of that stuff for vioblk thoguh
[00:01:51] <LeftWing> Ah, I guess virtio_chain_alloc() might get there
[00:02:13] <LeftWing> Yeah that's probably what happened here
[00:03:23] <ypankov> BTW, %x for return value looks unhelpful
[00:04:56] <wilbury> LeftWing: if you need me to apply some diffs and do an incremental nightly and build, just let me know.
[00:05:46] <LeftWing> ypankov: Fair!
[00:06:38] <wilbury> incremental nightly and boot, ofc.
[00:06:45] <ypankov> Without looking at the source, I thought ffffffff is amount of memory we tried to allocate? :)
[00:06:54] <LeftWing> haha
[00:06:58] <LeftWing> Yeah it's just -1
[00:07:00] <LeftWing> sorry about that
[00:07:51] <wilbury> (uint32_t)-1?
[00:07:55] <LeftWing> Yes
[00:08:00] <LeftWing> So, you have no free memory
[00:08:07] <LeftWing> I mean, you have ~11MB of memory
[00:08:25] <LeftWing> But mostly no free memory, and we're doing a KM_NOSLEEP allocation to do this I/O
[00:09:23] <LeftWing> I think being out of memory here is in part due to kmem_flags=0xf on DEBUG bits
[00:09:32] <wilbury> hm, so 4GB is too low for a build VM, then. i'll reduce max arc size and give that vm a bit more ram
[00:09:32] <LeftWing> One might argue we should do a sleeping allocation here though
[00:09:40] <LeftWing> Well, 4GB _with DEBUG_ is too low, probably
[00:09:56] <wilbury> yeah, ok, i'll re-run nightly overnight :-) without D flag
[00:10:05] <LeftWing> Shrinking the ARC won't help -- it's already down to 250MB here
[00:10:11] <LeftWing> If you look at "::memstat" in the dump
[00:10:27] <wilbury> oh yes, i see
[00:10:37] <wilbury> did not looked yet on memstat
[00:11:09] <wilbury> ok, so i'll give it 8G and will run with DEBUG to help testing
[00:11:52] <ypankov> wilbury: other than that issue, does illumos look good as bhyve guest (going to set it up anyway, just wondering)?
[00:12:10] <LeftWing> I think at the moment you need a recent enough machine to have vAPIC support for it to perform OK
[00:12:27] <ypankov> LeftWing: running bhyve on FreeBSD
[00:12:31] <LeftWing> We use the TPR _a lot_ and they haven't (as I recall) doing the TPR shadowing work
[00:12:55] <LeftWing> Yeah, this probably applies to on either illumos or FreeBSD as a host -- though pmooney may recall more
[00:13:20] <ypankov> ok, just got myself a i9-10900x, should be ok?
[00:13:57] <wilbury> ypankov: surprisingly, its "feeling" performance is better than freebsd 12-stable. netbsd-9 and OI runs very smoothly in bhyve (and freebsd 13-current, too)
[00:14:11] <ypankov> wilbury: good to know, thanks
[00:16:00] <wilbury> 74015 4 SC+ 898:32.71 bhyve: b13 (bhyve)
[00:16:00] <wilbury> 2187 3 SC+ 209:13.47 bhyve: nb90 (bhyve)
[00:16:00] <wilbury> 80093 6 SC+ 176:06.43 bhyve: test12 (bhyve)
[00:16:00] <wilbury> 60950 1 SC+ 5:44.69 bhyve: b12 (bhyve)
[00:16:00] <wilbury> 2155 2 IC+ 214:56.64 bhyve: dev12 (bhyve)
[00:16:02] <wilbury> 93801 11 SC+ 4:57.44 bhyve: oi1 (bhyve)
[00:16:19] <wilbury> these fits into 64GB RAM with still 16G free
[00:16:22] <LeftWing> Please use gist or a pastebin for big pastes
[00:16:43] <wilbury> ah sorry! thils should have been in query to ypankov
[00:16:50] <ypankov> :)
[00:16:51] <wilbury> but ctrl+x in irssi failed
[00:18:00] <wilbury> nevertheless, i use quite complex setup here (with ipsec back home from the host system, nfs-shared working directories for poudriere and oi-hipster userland, etc...)
[00:19:14] <LeftWing> OK so I think we could probably make this work better than it does today
[00:20:27] <LeftWing> In vioif, we preallocate all the chains we're willing to use later
[00:20:46] <LeftWing> We should probably do that in vioblk too
[00:26:30] <LeftWing> https://www.illumos.org/issues/12511
[00:32:02] <wilbury> LeftWing: thanks.
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[00:42:46] <wilbury> heh, 8GB is so-so
[00:49:54] <jbk> LeftWing: i can't recall if the TPR shadowing is still in review for fbsd or made it in, though we could grab it and try it out even if it hasn't made it into fbsd..
[00:54:09] <ypankov> jbk: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D22942 this one?
[00:55:41] <jbk> i think so
[00:58:26] <jbk> which if i'm understanding phrabicator correctly, appears to be committed
[00:59:39] <ypankov> yep, it is
[01:00:23] <sjorge> Wasn't there a follow up for the TPR shadow stuff ? ( that the stuff that makes windows run super slow right? )
[01:01:45] <ypankov> sjorge: looks like that review is exactly what you are talking about?
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[01:05:25] <pmooney> APICv certainly helps illumos and windows, since both use the TPR pretty heavily
[01:05:50] <pmooney> FreeBSD recently picked up support for doing TPR shadowing on lower end chips (which lack full APICv support)
[01:06:01] <pmooney> but you'd need to be running pretty recent bits to get that
[01:06:41] <ypankov> pmooney: how do I check for APICv presence?
[01:06:55] <pmooney> It's not likely present on an i9
[01:07:11] <ypankov> so only xeons?
[01:07:17] <pmooney> mdb -ke 'virtual_interrupt_delivery/D'
[01:07:33] <pmooney> yeah, generally just xeons, and I think it's omitted from some of the lower end ones too
[01:08:06] <pmooney> AMD includes the equivalent functionality in all of their chips, but bhyve doesn't currently have support for it
[01:08:11] <pmooney> it's something I'd like to look at soon
[01:08:12] <ypankov> have this: hw.vmm.vmx.cap.virtual_interrupt_delivery: 1
[01:08:20] <ypankov> (on FreeBSD at the moment)
[01:08:31] <pmooney> so you probably do have APICv
[01:09:30] <ypankov> is it shown in CPU features? e.g. VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID,VID,PostIntr
[01:09:44] <pmooney> on freebsd, I don't know
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[01:10:23] <ypankov> I mean, is there a cpu feature for APICv?
[01:11:09] <pmooney> it's exposed via some VMX capability registers
[01:11:14] <pmooney> not via cpuid
[01:11:26] <pmooney> how the OS chooses to expose that is its business
[01:12:55] <ypankov> yeah, I meant the cpuid or some other way, thanks
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[07:36:00] <tsoome> can anyone tell, why we need dummy there: http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/lib/libm/common/Q/asinhl.c#41
[07:39:36] <Riastradh> tsoome: So that asinhl(x) for x < 10^-10 raises the inexact exception.
[07:40:41] <Riastradh> (Unless x = 0, in which case asinh(x) is exactly x.)
[07:40:46] <tsoome> ou, that happens on + operator?
[07:41:02] <Riastradh> Yep.
[07:41:43] <tsoome> ok, that explains it.
[07:42:05] <tsoome> thanks:)
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[07:43:17] <Riastradh> You'll find a lot of logic like that in edge cases in libm -- return the input or some constant output as the best approximation, but do some dummy arithmetic to ensure the right exceptions get raised.
[07:43:50] <Riastradh> (sorry, 10^-20 above, not 10^-10)
[07:44:20] <tsoome> interesting why this does not blow compilation on x86...
[07:44:48] <Riastradh> Why is that interesting?
[07:44:49] <tsoome> Yes, the same idea is used in libc too.
[07:44:51] <Riastradh> or
[07:44:55] <Riastradh> What did you expect?
[07:45:29] <tsoome> well, the code is common, it seems. and on sparc i do get: ../common/Q/asinhl.c:44:23: error: variable 'dummy' set but not used [-Werror=un
[07:45:30] <tsoome> used-but-set-variable]
[07:45:50] <tsoome> but on x86, there is no such warning, thats with gcc 7
[07:47:24] <igork> you can check something in temporary variable, but do not use result from it - for example: for debug prints if needed - and gcc will produce the same warning
[07:47:25] <Riastradh> Dunno about that!
[07:48:06] <igork> also, you can do some checks for exception only and not use result - gcc will produce warning
[07:48:39] <igork> many another code try to fix it just: var = var;
[07:49:04] <igork> it helps to say to gcc - do not produce warning
[07:49:09] <tsoome> igork: yep. just in some cases it is not that obvious
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[07:51:07] <tsoome> Riastradh: probably should check the asm on x86:D
[07:56:26] <tsoome> ah no, SRCS_Q are only built on sparc.
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[11:17:12] <andyf> Somebody just put - yes "zpool status; sleep 10"|sh - into a PR and I can't decide if it's a cool new technique or something awful..
[11:28:35] <igork> andyf: it is bed idea if you have pool in SUSPENDED state
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[11:28:48] <igork> *bad
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[11:41:02] <ypankov> well, you can just use `zpool status 10`
[11:41:48] <Agnar> while sleep 10; zpool status; done # for systems not allowing the interval to status
[11:42:21] <ypankov> Agnar: what are those systems?
[11:42:41] <Agnar> ypankov: solaris and old illumos systems
[11:43:29] <Agnar> (Really old!)
[11:43:44] <ypankov> ok, not something I care about :)
[11:43:48] <Agnar> :)
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[12:54:57] <andyf> I've never seen anyone use yes to pipe a command to shell before, no idea if it's a common thing
[12:55:49] <andyf> Is anyone able to help me with a gcc testsuite failure? I'm sure it's going to be fairly easy to explain
[12:56:41] <andyf> the test is expecting to find "adss 40(%rsp)" but the illumos compiler outputs "adss 48(%rbp)"
[12:57:00] <andyf> and I just want to understand why
[12:57:28] <jlevon> sounds like it's just because the frame pointer is available?
[12:58:14] <andyf> the output looks right but since this is a test in gcc 9.3.0 I'm assuming that one of our patches has changed the behaviour and no-omit-frame-pointer is always a good candidate
[12:58:43] <andyf> the disassembly is in https://github.com/illumos/gcc/pull/38#issuecomment-612849862
[13:00:51] <andyf> *assembly...
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[13:05:53] <andyf> I think I am not worried about it, thanks John
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[15:57:14] <andyf> @LeftWing - thanks again, this is really cool :) https://paste.ec/paste/vRvWKtyJ#KkhwCbHl5TC8ubEL+cP6Yjye9g90WhRZZxVLb1da8J7
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[16:45:39] <LeftWing> andyf: Awesome!
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[16:49:18] <wilbury> i wonder whether nightly build requires root privileges or if only onu does.
[16:49:33] <LeftWing> In general you should not run nightly as root
[16:49:37] <LeftWing> But yes, onu requires root
[16:49:38] <andyf> nightly doesn't; I never run it as root
[16:49:45] <wilbury> good
[16:49:47] <wilbury> thanks.
[16:49:53] <LeftWing> You're welcome!
[16:50:21] <wilbury> trying to refresh my illumos/smartos-fu, it's been a while since i left erigones&danubecloud.
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[17:15:18] <Smithx10> toastersonerson1: you wrote a CRI for illumos?
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[18:52:05] <toastersonerson1> Woot zol now has persitent l2arc :) some update to our 3525
[18:53:44] <toastersonerson1> Smithx10 (IRC): I am in the proces of doing so. Not yet functional. Will start to tackle it in thext few days.
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[19:44:39] <LeftWing> ptribble: Strong work on Java, sir!
[20:03:44] <ptribble> Just trying to do what I can for the cause
[20:05:00] <ptribble> In between watching reruns of The A-Team, which shows how desperate you can get in social lockdown
[20:05:16] <wilbury> java without closed toolchain?
[20:05:35] <ptribble> absolutely
[20:06:07] <wilbury> that would be good.
[20:06:22] <wilbury> ah ok, i see the e-mail. sorry for the noise.
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[20:07:53] <tsoome> single repo would be nice to have
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[20:26:29] <wilbury> in share/man/man1m/dispadmin.1m the "\fB" and "\fR" are missing around "FX" on line 51
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[20:44:54] <andyf> ptribble - The Dukes of Hazzard is on too!
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[21:12:02] <wilbury> i played dukes of hazzard on zx spectrum, 30 years ago
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[21:49:06] <domag02> hi!
[21:49:25] <toastersonerson1> hello
[21:56:05] <domag02> I'm working on "Bug 814 - need hotplug manual pages" and I have a question (legal related)
[21:59:08] <domag02> I have found the necessary manual pages (in HTML format) in the "Oracle Solaris 10 Reference Manual Collection"
[21:59:33] <rmustacc> Online reources that do not have a clear license, should in general be avoided.
[21:59:36] <rmustacc> *resources
[22:03:01] <domag02> rmustacc: so, copying the content and reformat in mandoc is a no-go
[22:03:16] <rmustacc> Correct. The same way it would be in an academic paper.
[22:03:30] <rmustacc> If it has a license that says otherwise, then that's a different story. But generally it doesn't.
[22:03:49] <rmustacc> Also, what's documented there may not be what exists.
[22:04:06] <rmustacc> That said, reading through examples of other folks manual pages is fine to help get ideas for how things are documented and understanding it.
[22:04:22] <rmustacc> And obligatory, I'm not a lawyer. ;)
[22:05:38] <domag02> rmustacc: ok, thanks
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[22:30:46] <wilbury> i want to submit a small patch for that dispadmin(1m) manpage. what would be the best way?
[22:32:32] <wilbury> ok, using illumos.org/issues
[22:33:45] <LeftWing> It's best to type bugs.illumos.org so that it redirects you all the way down to https://www.illumos.org/projects/illumos-gate/issues
[22:34:22] <wilbury> yeah i'm already there
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[22:34:30] <wilbury> patch in format of git patch?
[22:34:38] <rmustacc> Probably helpful to read https://illumos.org/docs/contributing/
[22:35:00] <wilbury> rmustacc: a brillant hint. i'm on it. thanks.
[22:35:14] <rmustacc> Don't' hesitate to reach out with questions.
[22:36:00] <ptribble> For man pages, the easiest form for review is a webrev
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[22:55:11] <wilbury> i'm not clear on CODEMGR_PARENT and CODEMGR_WS relationship
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[22:56:52] <LeftWing> Do you mean PARENT_WS?
[22:57:00] <LeftWing> PARENT_WS is effectively vestigial, I think
[22:58:25] <wilbury> i only have CODEMGR_WS set
[22:58:40] <LeftWing> That is the expected state of affairs
[22:59:40] <LeftWing> Are you experiencing some kind of error condition, or are you just looking at what's in "usr/src/tools/env/illumos.sh"?
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[23:00:27] <LeftWing> The instructions at https://illumos.org/docs/developers/build/ should cover everything you need to get a build running on an OI host
[23:01:11] <wilbury> on webrev. build is working ok
[23:01:41] <wilbury> i built illumos and smartos quite frequently in the past :-)
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[23:02:30] <wilbury> if i make my local changes, should i also commit to my local git repo for webrev to pick up those changes?
[23:03:07] <wilbury> nevermind, i'll read and try.
[23:03:59] <alanc> glad to see I'm not the only one spending quarantine fixing man page problems
[23:04:16] <wilbury> alanc: i spotted this one only by a chance
[23:04:41] <rmustacc> alanc: Does it count if I'm creating man page typos for you?
[23:04:45] <rmustacc> wilbury: Yeah, you should.
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[23:04:56] <rmustacc> (The royal you I guess)
[23:05:11] <alanc> you're probably creating them for Peter, not me 8-)
[23:05:55] <alanc> though of course we share our common typo fixes with each other
[23:06:42] <wilbury> tpyo fxies. i guess i'm on the right path
[23:07:20] <ptribble> I already have an exceedingly long list of man pages to fix, which I should probably get back to if I can get Java out of my head for a while
[23:08:30] <alanc> fortunately, management has taken Java out of my head for me
[23:09:20] <alanc> I do have a few more to send on from my current batch
[23:13:59] <wilbury> ok, i read CODEMGR_PARENT as path to "stock" checkout where CODEMGR_WS is "my" working directory with my changes with my own master branch
[23:16:44] <wilbury> (if i use such setup)
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[23:56:37] <wilbury> https://www.illumos.org/issues/12512
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