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[00:11:58] <alanc> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2020-January/003036.html - Xorg 1.20.7 includes the fixes needed for running Solarish desktop as a VMWare guest, due to the IOPL being set per-thread (and not inherited when new threads are spawned) on Solaris-based kernels
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[00:13:21] <rmustacc> Thanks for all your work there, alanc!
[00:30:43] <igork> alanc: thanks for update!
[00:31:21] <alanc> you're all welcome
[00:34:04] <alanc> also, the OI folks already know this, but if anyone else is shipping the OpenSolaris xlock code in their distro, there were some updates posted to https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/x11/app/xlock/sun-src a few months back you may want to sync with
[00:34:37] * alanc should probably drop Naughton's ancient Sun contact info from that README someday...
[00:45:38] <KungFuJesus> so jumbo frames helped a bit, especially when used in combination with a recordsize of 1mb
[00:45:56] <KungFuJesus> it seems like I otherwise get really poor performance for purely sequential workloads over NFS
[00:46:16] <KungFuJesus> I see the same performance hit locally, but for some reason when paired with NFS's RPC, it's more so
[00:46:34] <KungFuJesus> I'd have thought prefetch would be helping a lot here, though
[00:51:59] <KungFuJesus> this really feels like a bug but I'm not sure where to begin to find exactly where the regression is
[01:03:08] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12133 Want support for SMBIOS 3.3 -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at fingolfin dot org>
[01:03:09] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12138 Want smbios pointer device decoding -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at fingolfin dot org>
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[07:57:48] <tsoome> KungFuJesus: have you checked/tested tcp stack properties?
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[09:11:53] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11639 some man pages show incorrect driver locations -- Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail dot com>
[09:15:09] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11641 spelling mistakes in section 7d of the manual -- Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail dot com>
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[11:08:23] <Agnar> is there a usable way (with mdb?) to figure out why a filesystem is busy, that fuser reports clean, has no nfs exports or other obvious things?
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[11:12:10] <sensille> busy for umount?
[11:12:14] <Agnar> yes
[11:12:47] <Agnar> fuser /mountpoint and fuser /mountpoint/* do not report anything
[11:13:19] <Agnar> I wonder if there is a lsof like functionality in mdb
[11:13:30] <sensille> you can always dtrace down to see where the error originates from, but i don't know if that counts as 'usable'
[11:14:01] <Agnar> sensille: I'm afraid dtrace will not point to something obvious
[11:14:26] <sensille> you said it isn't anything obvious :)
[11:14:38] <ptribble> I tended to 'cd /proc ; pfiles *' for this
[11:14:53] <Agnar> ptribble: done that, no processes on it
[11:15:04] <Agnar> sensille: pff ;))
[11:15:24] <Agnar> ok, I just umount -f it. worked. something will break... ;)
[11:38:53] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12094 loader should be configured for serial console -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
[11:40:15] <jlevon> Error: data stack underflow
[11:40:16] <jlevon> fuck
[11:40:55] <jlevon> the interactive menu is like insanely slow too
[11:41:43] <jlevon> wonder what happened there :/
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[11:52:59] <tsoome> Agnar: nfs or cifs shares?
[11:53:15] <Agnar> tsoome: no, that's the interesting part.
[11:53:35] <Agnar> tsoome: I bet it is some relict of the ldom VDS
[11:53:46] <Agnar> well. was.
[11:53:50] <Agnar> umount -f ;P
[11:54:13] <tsoome> :)
[11:54:17] <Agnar> brb, need to reboot this zone here to update home mounts
[11:54:37] <tsoome> jlevon: with multiconsole?
[11:54:46] <jlevon> I'm not sure I've EVER got fuser to report anything.
[11:54:57] <jlevon> tsoome: yes. something nasty is going on.
[11:55:06] <jlevon> tsoome: on a second go I got as far as Booting
[11:55:09] <jlevon> then silence
[11:55:11] <jlevon> even on vga
[11:55:37] <jlevon> the underflow was after pressing some keys as it was apparently stuck on a spinner
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[12:01:05] <jlevon> ugh, booted this time.
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[12:02:36] <tsoome> command: console will show the data about console devices
[12:04:15] <tsoome> hrm, 11.4 memory-reserve pools is interesting. apparently they still do have some features to develop in solaris…
[12:04:39] <jlevon> that was done before they laid everyone off
[12:04:44] <jlevon> just wasn't quite finished
[12:04:46] <tsoome> aah.
[12:04:52] <tsoome> i see.
[12:05:29] <tsoome> still I do like the idea.
[12:06:13] <jlevon> well it would have been nice if vm2 could have managed to provide us with the large pages we need regardless lol
[12:06:30] <jlevon> but we just couldn't get it reliable enough. so it's a hack really
[12:06:32] <tsoome> true.
[12:06:58] <tsoome> this host is able to give me 24G pool, and fails with 32G.
[12:07:38] <jlevon> setting the ARC limit was always the backwards way of doing this
[12:08:05] <tsoome> and ‘kernel zones’ is not chrinked despite I did move one zone to MRP.
[12:08:18] <tsoome> shrinked*
[12:08:48] <jlevon> uh I forget how the accounting works
[12:09:30] <tsoome> I guess the cache destructor have had no reason to be called:)
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[13:59:32] <sjorge> @jlevon interesting, your loader change did fix my loader over serial issue! It had "ttya,text" and it was missing "text,ttya,ttyb" (because I have both com0 (physical) and com1 (SOL) works on all 3 now!
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[14:24:06] <jlevon> sjorge: all three? wtf..
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[14:59:02] <sjorge> I just put text first and ttyb, because for some reason I did not before... but yes, loader now shows on all 3 locations
[14:59:09] <sjorge> I do have os_console="ttya" set
[14:59:21] <sjorge> So that output goes there, all 3 also get a vt after everything is booted :)
[14:59:39] <sjorge> ttya is connected to a raspberyr pi running comserver with logging, to get crash stacks and such :)
[15:05:52] <nahamu> sjorge: what hardware do you use to connect the serial port to the pi?
[15:06:14] <sjorge> a simple usb -> 4x serial
[15:06:35] <sjorge> 2x to a compute node, 1x to my switch
[15:06:36] <sjorge> one free
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[15:09:31] <nahamu> nice
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[15:10:15] <sjorge> check out comserver, it's pretty cool
[15:10:22] <sjorge> works fine on the freebsd 12 arm64 image
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[15:32:35] <KungFuJesus> tsoome: I adjusted some buffer sizes for tcp with dladm initially, didn't help as much as bumping MTU up, though
[15:33:02] <KungFuJesus> the lack of throughput for these large sequential reads though is suspect
[15:33:22] <KungFuJesus> there's a fair amount of bug reports of ZoL reporting issues as well - hard to say if that's related or not
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[16:37:38] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12178 Allow bytes to be removed from a custr -- Jason King <jason.king at joyent dot com>
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[17:09:56] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10241 ZFS not detecting faulty spares in a timely manner -- Kody A Kantor <kody at kkantor dot com>
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[17:18:33] <leoric_> andyf: Hi. What do you think about https://pastebin.com/a1qyUdW8 ?
[17:19:25] <leoric_> this seems to be a bit less hacky than https://github.com/omniosorg/illumos-omnios/commit/bebcb691fb5453bc1c9d8a5712354812fb477152#diff-c00c732d76c8007d2f7c67d7c0355609
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[17:21:00] <andyf> yes, that is a bit hacky :)
[17:22:19] <andyf> I'm not sure that's what you want to do though, IIRC
[17:22:30] <andyf> makefiles that build both py2 and py3 modules override that
[17:23:45] <leoric_> Want to preserve /usr/bin/python2.7 shebang in pyzfs if BUILDPY2 is set to '' or both BUILDPY2 and BUILDPY3 are set to '#'
[17:24:17] <leoric_> and python3.5 shebang if BUILDPY2 is '#' and BUILDPY3 is not set
[17:24:39] <jbk> i know smartos and omniosce contain (or at least can contain) libcurl -- do other distros also include it?
[17:25:48] <leoric_> I doubt you can go far without curl
[17:25:58] <jbk> well there's also wget
[17:26:02] <jbk> and fetch on the bsds
[17:26:30] <alanc> any distro with IPS support has to have curl, since IPS uses curl for http/https transport
[17:27:09] <igork> on dilos we have no curl by default
[17:28:24] <igork> no need for apt/dpkg by default
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[17:42:32] <jimklimov> IIRC I had a "fetcher" script, maybe in oi-userland makefiles? to abstract the whatever curl/wget/... a system has
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[17:49:17] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12151 libc: specifies less restrictive attribute than its target -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[18:08:20] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12165 lp: argument to 'alloca' may be too large -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[19:26:35] <leoric_> andyf: https://github.com/pyhalov/illumos-gate/commit/f71e3d58511c520fcc2d2d4f4ab1ffb94e5b2405
[19:26:56] <leoric_> testing this one
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[20:06:25] <leoric_> andyf: try /usr/lib/zfs/pyzfs.py allow some_user mount some_zfs_fs
[20:07:04] <andyf> leoric_: works
[20:07:12] <andyf> well, no error..
[20:07:27] <andyf> yes, it worked
[20:07:37] <leoric_> with python3.5 ?
[20:07:49] <leoric_> or at least 3.x?
[20:07:55] <andyf> ah, no, it's 2.7 in the shebang
[20:08:17] <andyf> zfs allow doesn't even use that any more
[20:08:30] <leoric_> first, shebang should be changed to -Es...
[20:08:47] <leoric_> I know, but it shows some issue in zfs module
[20:09:50] <leoric_> throws KeyError here
[20:30:54] <leoric_> https://www.illumos.org/issues/12192
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[20:57:45] <leoric_> The same issue exists in python3 libbe_py
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[21:15:09] <leoric_> https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/compare/master...pyhalov:11522
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[23:12:59] <despair86> brb installing CDE because dtlogin is nice
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[23:58:18] <alanc> spoken like someone who has never had to really work with or on dtlogin
[23:59:37] <alanc> but maybe I'm just bitter because it's 2020 and we're still issuing new CVE id's to CDE
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