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[04:46:28] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12163 mpt_sas: Collateral damage caused by dead SATA disk -- Marcel Telka <marcel at telka dot sk>
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[08:23:56] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12139 make: definition of implicit copy constructor is deprecated -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[08:34:12] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12176 util-tests: need ctf commands on path and C locale -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[08:39:49] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12124 sort: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[09:36:09] <arekinath> anybody got a box with nxge on it?
[09:36:25] <arekinath> yes, that nxge, the neptune 10g
[09:37:54] <arekinath> so that would be a T2 system, like a T5120/T5220
[09:39:21] <arekinath> or one of the cards
[09:39:50] <tsoome> I think we have those in lab but powered off…
[09:40:19] <arekinath> tsoome (IRC): feel up for an experiemnt sometime? :D
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[09:40:39] <tsoome> they only have oracle solaris:D
[09:40:47] <arekinath> ah, bugger
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[09:40:58] <tsoome> but it depends on what kind of experiment:D
[09:41:00] <arekinath> I want someone to boot illumos on one and try to make an aggr of two of the nxge ports
[09:41:03] <arekinath> and then put a vnic on top of the aggr
[09:41:07] <tsoome> am.
[09:41:08] <arekinath> and see if the vnic receives traffic
[09:41:41] <tsoome> specifically about nxge?
[09:42:05] <tsoome> LACP aggregation?
[09:42:36] <arekinath> yeah like `dladm create-aggr -l nxge0 -l nxge1 aggr0 && dladm create-vnic -l aggr0 vn0 && ipadm create-if vn0`
[09:42:49] <arekinath> it's the only NIC driver in the gate currently that uses the mgi_start callback in MAC
[09:42:53] <arekinath> and I'm pretty sure aggr isn't calling it properly
[09:43:44] <tsoome> if there is an iso….
[09:44:10] <tsoome> i wonder…
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[09:52:36] <v_a_b> arekinath I have a T5120 with v9os (= OmniOS for SPARC) in LDOMs. I also have nxge cards (only the 1GB version though). Not sure if it's feasible to pass the nxge NICs into an LDOM (need to check).
[09:53:07] <arekinath> 1G is fine
[09:53:22] <arekinath> as long as nxge is the driver attached it'll work for my experiment :)
[09:53:49] <arekinath> if you have a card it doesn't even have to be on SPARC
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[10:01:38] <tsoome> v_a_b: what compiler(s) you have there?
[10:01:48] <tsoome> on v9os, i mean.
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[10:12:30] <v_a_b> gcc4 :-)
[10:13:10] <v_a_b> Not sure if nxge NICs were ever supported on i386.
[10:14:09] <v_a_b> ISTR that Gary Mills has newer SPARC compilers on his "OI for SPARC" build.
[10:17:23] <v_a_b> Yes, they are supported. That does make it a bit easier.
[10:22:57] <tsoome> v_a_b: mkay.
[10:23:24] <tsoome> v_a_b: so, from that setup, NULL pointer cleanup is possible:)
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[11:02:09] <v_a_b> Sure.
[11:02:20] <v_a_b> tsoome Will you be at FOSDEM in 3 weeks?
[11:04:58] <tsoome> havent really planned.
[11:09:25] <jimklimov> I should be :) But not certain where I'd hang out... some year should visit the actual talks too :)
[11:11:37] <andyf> jimklimov: what interesting problem are you bringing me this year? :)
[11:12:33] <jimklimov> hmm... I'll make something up as we go ;)
[11:13:46] <jimklimov> figuring out the nvidia multi-driver PR would be nice... but that's more on OI side... and somebody with functional non-Optimus nvidia cards...
[11:14:30] <jimklimov> IMHO the PR was merge-ready 3 years ago (well, looking at numeric years anyway) or 2 at least... but got stuck somehow
[11:15:13] <jimklimov> oh I know, we can hack up the persistent L2ARC to survive reboots and run fast afterwards, would help laptops a lot :)
[11:16:18] <jimklimov> or to (optionally?) allow separate ZIL for rpools, likewise beneficial on the smaller systems (all-in-one rpool on the laptop's one HDD, but fast thanks to L2ARC+ZIL on the SSD/NVMe)
[11:17:10] <sjorge> Did GOOS=illumos ever get merged upstream? @LeftWing I though you had show interest in trying that at some point? Early 2019?
[11:17:35] <andyf> sjorge: yes, 1.13 got it
[11:18:09] <jimklimov> in the meanwhile, Linux LVM got me more battle scars as I was changing laptops at work recently... I just wanted the documented integrating mirroring (to clone old storage device to new one) to work... seamless for OI, headwalltable for Linux
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[11:19:27] <jimklimov> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804629#25
[11:19:37] <sjorge> andyf ah good!
[11:19:53] <andyf> sjorge: we're using it in building a few OmniOS packages now, but I forget which
[11:20:14] <sjorge> andyf should i bring the horrible lenovo aswel this year to mess with? Or just my work macbook like last year?
[11:20:15] <jimklimov> FWIW it is fixed by now, but the Debian release I had (initially 8, then a lot of apt-get updates) did not have the suitable kernel version
[11:20:17] <andyf> client: zrepl version=0.2.1 GOOS=illumos GOARCH=amd64 Compiler=gc
[11:20:38] <sjorge> Oh zrepl is go, I did not know
[11:20:49] <andyf> yes, it's really nice
[11:20:56] <andyf> I was using `zrep` before, which is in shell
[11:21:04] <sjorge> Need to redo so much of my homelab once I move again
[11:21:18] <andyf> sjorge: I don't think we have anything new to test on the lenovo...
[11:21:47] <sjorge> ack, will leave it in the pile of random hardware at home then
[11:26:34] <jimklimov> does it have an nvidia onboard? without intel? :)
[11:33:37] <sjorge> No, just intel
[11:52:40] <v_a_b> arekinath I saved your command line; maybe I can do something on the weekend.
[11:53:20] <igork> arekinath: ping
[11:53:30] <arekinath> igork: sup
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[12:26:19] <jimklimov> andyf: oh, remembered one more challenge though also OI-related: for the past few months, I can not really use the mouse in Midnight Commander (panels and editor) on OI when using GCM as the nice multi-tabbed terminal program: it is either ignored, or hangs the mc/mcedit for about 5 seconds, or pastes random characters. It does work however in mate-terminal, and did work in GCM earlier.
[12:28:02] <jimklimov> The problem also happens for MC in SSH sessions to OmniOS from a local session in GCM, and happens (but differently, probably some TERM/curses mismatch) for ssh from mate-terminal, and does not happen for MC in SSH to Debian from either terminal. Are you up for the challenge? ;-p
[12:29:53] <jimklimov> given that over the past year or two there were some changes to (n)curses IIRC, e.g. adding and removing problems processing Ctrl+O (aborting the "raw" shell session vs. normally toggling pannels in a shell sub-session from MC), I'd suspect that codebase traffic to have added this problem too
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[14:17:59] <Acrossy> Hello guys, tell me the emulators of windows microsoft, vine or what else is open-solaris?
[14:19:18] <Acrossy> ,
[14:19:41] <Acrossy> google translate? sorry
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[14:35:48] <Acrossy> Hello guys, please tell me, Wine or the like exist on open solaris?
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[14:49:36] <Acrossy> Hello guys, please tell me, Wine or the like exist on open solaris?
[14:50:31] <denk> stupid bot?
[14:52:32] <Acrossy> no no, I’m not at all familiar with the topic, I guess, but I need confirmation, thanks, do not shoot, please
[14:53:49] <denk> once I built and ran wine for OI, so, it's possible to do it
[14:54:34] <arekinath> wine definitely works on the LX brand in illumos if you run a distro that's pulled that in
[14:54:37] <arekinath> idk if that counts or not
[14:55:13] <Acrossy> hackers and stalkers got it, I'm a trader, but the programs are only windows, brokers are not flexible here where I am.
[14:56:09] <neirac> Acrossy seems there is wine on oi https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/5124/files/770667e37b535db3b0d3854bf8ccfffccd92df76
[14:58:44] <Acrossy> many thanks to the guys, I guessed what is, but needed confirmation. Thanks denk, arekinath, neirac. Thanks really.
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[15:15:42] <Agnar> (545) x230:/export/home/olbohlen$ pkg info -r wine
[15:15:43] <Agnar> Name: desktop/wine
[15:15:43] <Agnar> Summary: Windows API compatibility and ABI runtime
[15:15:43] <Agnar> Category: System/Virtualization
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[15:16:09] <Agnar> available via: localhostoih origin online F http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/
[15:18:30] <Acrossy> thanks Agnar
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[16:55:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12166 resync smatch to 0.6.1-rc1-il-3 -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
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[18:23:35] <igork> alanc: ping
[18:23:49] <igork> alanc: could oracle port fio to userland ? :)
[18:24:21] <alanc> no idea - I've never heard of fio
[18:25:17] <alanc> but the number of things Oracle could do is far far far greater than the number of things it will choose to do
[18:25:37] <igork> alanc: https://github.com/axboe/fio
[18:25:49] <igork> it is similar to vdbench
[18:26:03] <igork> but vdbench is java based
[18:26:24] <alanc> so why do you need Oracle to port it instead of someone from the illumos community doing it?
[18:27:11] <igork> alanc: i'm interested in: why oracle userland has no fio :)
[18:27:35] <igork> i have ported fio to dilos, but need some additional work on it
[18:28:00] <igork> i wanted to look oracle version, but nothing found in userland ;)
[18:29:31] <alanc> because no one has ever asked us to ship fio, and we've cut back on the amount of FOSS we package after 4 rounds of layoffs
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[18:53:17] <chamkila> hello, is it possible to run illumos via docker?
[18:54:18] <igork> chamkila: yes, is docker=zone :)
[18:56:35] <chamkila> hello igork, thanks for reply. no I am running linux on docker on my mac and I wanted to explore upon illumos and was wondering if I could do a lihtweight docker image
[18:56:58] <LeftWing> chamkila: Not really, illumos is a whole operating system that runs on physical servers or in virtual machines like KVM or VMware.
[18:57:18] <LeftWing> You could conceivably run KVM under Docker, and illumos inside that, though.
[18:58:02] <LeftWing> But if you have a Mac I'd be inclined to use VMware Fusion or VirtualBox or some other hypervisor directly.
[18:58:42] <chamkila> thanks, LeftWing. Sounds like a vm would be the way to explore and learn upon illumos
[18:58:55] <igork> i didin't know if kvm possible under docker.
[18:59:00] <chamkila> I want to use and contrinute to illumos
[18:59:27] <LeftWing> chamkila: I'd say the first step is to install a distribution like OmniOS or OpenIndiana
[18:59:34] <neirac> chamkila https://illumos.org/books/dev/
[18:59:47] <LeftWing> Get familiar and comfortable, and get a build of illumos-gate done without making any changes
[18:59:48] <chamkila> I did c/c++ programming during my early years .... and I think this would be a good project to explore, learn and do something
[18:59:56] <chamkila> i c
[19:00:09] <chamkila> oky
[19:00:34] <LeftWing> There are some Getting Started links on the front page of https://illumos.org/
[19:01:52] <chamkila> I had this thought if I could pull an image like docker images for linux distros
[19:02:16] <chamkila> but a vm works as well... it makes things easy and more immersive
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[19:08:07] <chamkila> @LeftWing, which distro would you recommend OmniOS o OpenIndiana?
[19:09:19] <LeftWing> They're both good in different ways. The place to build and run a stock illumos-gate.git is probably OpenIndiana, but OmniOS is a close second. They have their own illumos patches on top basically, but OpenIndiana is as close to the base as you get
[19:09:54] <chamkila> Thanks, thats makes decision easy
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[19:14:33] <chamkila> @neirac Thanks!
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[19:15:05] <neirac> chamkila no problem!.
[19:16:44] <chamkila> Another thing I wanted to ask, what kind of OS shall I pick when installing in VMWare Fusion? Other 64bit?
[19:18:21] <chamkila> Because this is not an identified OS yet inside pre-packed templates in VMware.
[19:18:31] <igork> chamkila: vmware fusion is fine - i'm using dilos on it
[19:18:58] <igork> but need some additional trick for vmxnet3s driver if needed
[19:19:06] <chamkila> @igork Thanks. did you pick Other64 bit when you installed?
[19:19:14] <chamkila> i c
[19:19:18] <chamkila> good to know
[19:19:27] <igork> i'm using "Other 64bit"
[19:20:08] <chamkila> sounds good
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[20:51:31] <mnowak_> chamkila, I think someone in the community claimed that when you pick something else than "Other XXbit" you actually limit your options in terms of virtual HW and such in later stages of the VM creation
[20:52:49] <mnowak_> chamkila, we have only following two patches on top of vanilla illumos gate: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hipster/components/openindiana/illumos-gate/patches
[20:54:20] <mnowak_> chamkila, you can grab OI Vagrant Box and then `pkg update` to the latest code, if Vagrant is your thing: https://app.vagrantup.com/openindiana/boxes/hipster
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[21:27:34] <chamkila> @mnowak thanks very much for this information
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[21:41:48] <chamkila> another quesiton that comes to minf whether any code compiled on solaris will work as is ion illumos ... for lets say x86_64 architecture for example.
[21:54:49] <tsoome> chamkila: only testing will tell.
[21:55:12] <chamkila> @tsoome well said. thanks
[21:55:14] <tsoome> chamkila: it may.
[21:55:37] <chamkila> oky
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[22:03:16] <jbk> if it's built on solaris 10 or earlier, it most likely will.. after that it gets a lot more iffy
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