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[07:21:40] <igork> how to try disable kernel module on boot time on SPARC? i tried: boot -disable-stmf=true -kvd
[07:21:46] <igork> but it's not working
[07:22:56] <igork> sparc failed on load of stmf_sbd with latest updates
[07:24:31] <igork> https://paste.dilos.org/?1ff6fd5db462b6fa#45wpcl+GbcKWEOw3gC9txAzuQvquvJc8cXl+HGyTRLA=
[07:55:09] <LeftWing> File a bug?
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[08:04:35] <igork> LeftWing: i'll try investigate it first
[08:04:43] <LeftWing> OK
[08:05:10] <igork> maybe it is issue on my env - will try reproduce it on another sparc first
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[08:55:18] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12040 loader: vbe_print_mode() is missing newline -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[08:58:18] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12041 tem: x86 needs to use tems.ts_color_map() for 8-bit colors -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[09:36:52] <toasterson> tsoome is it acually possible to chainload the installer from the installer?
[09:37:09] <tsoome> ?
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[09:38:43] <tsoome> that depends
[09:38:58] <toasterson> can u use option 6 to chainload the installer itself
[09:39:22] <toasterson> probably if nothing is installed onto disk i supose
[09:39:32] <tsoome> yes/no/maybe.
[09:40:06] <tsoome> we can not chainload cd boot from BIOS
[09:40:20] <toasterson> it sounded the same to me when the guy said that this was his workaround for getting a Dell bios to boot the installer
[09:40:27] <toasterson> yes it was USB
[09:40:28] <tsoome> we definitely can chainload usb stick
[09:40:39] <toasterson> https://github.com/jdrch/Hardware/wiki/How-to-Install-OpenIndiana
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[09:44:39] <tsoome> setting boot/acpi options before chainboot will have no effect whatsoever - chainboot will make those settings not accessible.
[09:45:56] <toasterson> well what i care about is if chainload forces the bios back to uefi
[09:46:02] <tsoome> also I do not understand the need to cheinload there - if you have loader up, you should be able to load and start the kernel.
[09:46:06] <toasterson> sorry legacy mode
[09:46:24] <toasterson> tsoome (IRC): dell bioses behave weird here
[09:47:24] <toasterson> he had a lot of General-ATA during installation
[09:47:46] <toasterson> https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/Ta2ad287becc35dc1/help-booting-openindiana-live-usb-on-dell-optiplex-390
[09:47:49] <tsoome> um well, I do not quite get that too - we are able to start kernel in UEFI system, there should be no need to switch to legacy.
[09:49:56] <toasterson> i don't know if he had problems just with that setup but reports for problems with dell bioses seem to happen more often recently
[09:51:09] <tsoome> ok, he was starting system in BIOS (legacy) mode, got errors, then the workaround was to boot UEFI, install os and then switch back to legacy….
[09:52:01] <toasterson> that makes sense. he's guide is confusing
[09:52:43] <tsoome> so a) why not just use UEFI? b) generic ata error hints about disks in ATA mode (cmdk driver), can he switch to use SATA?
[09:53:25] <toasterson> wait he had the drives in IDE(ATA) mode?
[09:55:03] <tsoome> also the workaround does not quite make sense - if legacy boot was resulting in ATA errors from kernel, then why was not he getting the same errors after install? :)
[09:55:29] <toasterson> tsoome (IRC): UEFI mode was resulting in ATA errors
[09:56:09] <tsoome> i am not sure if he has disk(s) in ata or sata mode, that can be checked from running system:)
[09:56:50] <tsoome> well, in his workaround, step 5: Set boot mode to UEFI
[09:59:10] <tsoome> it soundsa like bu booting system in UEFI more, the disk controller got initialized “properly”
[10:00:31] <tsoome> sry for typos:D
[10:03:21] <tsoome> once he has system installed, I wonder if the cold boot will result in same generic ata errors or not.
[10:04:14] <tsoome> of course, it may be the errors were appearing from accessing the usb stick, not hdd.
[10:04:37] <tsoome> but usb disk is not really related to ata…
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[10:44:59] <toasterson> tsoome (IRC): ah interesting. thanks for the info.
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[11:37:56] <igork> LeftWing: https://www.illumos.org/issues/12042
[11:38:13] <igork> reproduced this issue on 2 different SPARC T5220
[11:39:01] <igork> have no issues before latest iscsi updates
[11:40:07] <igork> will try to test it again with DEBUG build
[11:41:23] <igork> ptrible: if you have time and latest illumos build, could you try install stmf + stmf_sbd and confirm it?
[11:41:54] <igork> ptribble: ^^^
[11:43:03] <ptribble> igork: I'll have a look, but having time would be the problem
[11:43:16] <igork> thanks
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[12:09:41] <andyf> igork, what's the stack?
[12:10:15] <igork> take a look bug report at end of message
[12:11:01] <andyf> ah yes, I can see it after refreshing the page, thanks
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[12:14:47] <andyf> stmf_sbd`_init+d0::dis would be helpful too
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[12:39:16] <igork> andyf: i have uninstalled broken module because panic on boot. will try it later
[12:40:01] <igork> what additional info can be interest? just update bug with questions and i'll try provide additional info
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[12:58:15] <andyf> igork, well it looks like an unaligned memory access, so disassemble the function and find the instruction that is doing it, and then work back to see which line in the source this is
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[15:27:57] <neirac> How do I check if a cpu core is idle?
[15:28:34] <igork> andyf: https://paste.dilos.org/?ecd81f2b0915f83b#k0//ZP42M539ikYWRg8lDtJmF8bYKm27uUpAkqoiAlA=
[15:28:44] <igork> i can add it to bug report
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[15:35:25] <Agnar> neirac: echo "::cpuinfo" | mdb -k?
[15:36:23] <Agnar> neirac: or 13886 fbt unix cpu_idle_enter entry
[15:37:07] <Agnar> neirac: so, dtrace on fbt:unix:cpu_idle_enter:entry
[15:42:05] <neirac> Agnar thank very much, I'll check cpu_idle_enter also, uts/common/os/cpu.c cpu_get_state seems to do it as well
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[15:45:51] <andyf> igork, yes, I think you should - and also sbd_global_prop_lock/X
[15:48:36] <neirac> jbk for the tickless stuff I'm starting all over. Moving to cyclics some of the routines make the code simpler I think, but there is still the clock going on, but at least now I'm working on this again.
[15:48:49] <jbk> cool
[15:52:16] <neirac> jbk but need to learn things along the way.
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[16:08:55] <jbk> i (and I'm sure others as well) will do what we can to help
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[16:29:06] <Smithx10> rmustacc: LeftWing pmooney congrats on Oxide !
[16:32:23] <neirac> Oxide will be related to Illumos stuff ?
[16:49:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12018 loader.efi: efipart needs better support detecting nested partitions -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[16:53:56] <igork> andyf:
[16:53:56] <igork> [18]> sbd_global_prop_lock/X
[16:53:56] <igork> stmf_sbd`sbd_global_prop_lock:
[16:53:56] <igork> stmf_sbd`sbd_global_prop_lock: 0
[16:55:50] <andyf> ah sorry, we need its address
[16:55:51] <andyf> stmf_sbd`sbd_global_prop_lock::print -at
[16:56:47] <igork> https://www.illumos.org/issues/12042
[16:56:56] <igork> added to end
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[17:32:32] <neirac> Would be a good idea to for cyclics to skip idle cpus?
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[18:19:02] <jbk> i suppose it might depend on what they're doing..
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[18:36:03] <neirac> jbk when a cyclic is picking a cpu to be added skip the idle ones, I'll read more of the code maybe what I say does not make sense.
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[19:07:11] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 12036 iscsi: zpool create pool fails to create label -- Jerry Jelinek <jerry.jelinek at joyent dot com>
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[19:59:42] <KungFuJe2us> rmustacc: https://oxide.computer/blog/introducing-the-oxide-computer-company/
[19:59:56] <KungFuJe2us> From the name I'm assuming something Rust based
[20:00:06] <KungFuJe2us> are you still at Joyent or is this a side project?
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[20:03:34] <KungFuJe2us> or rather, are you still at Joyent and this is a side project, or are you on this full time now? Looks like you guys have some VC funding
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[20:15:08] <KungFuJe2us> I mean I'm excited either way, but it seems like you operate on a lot of core components (including side channel mitigations) for Illumos. I'm hoping this startup is at least Illumos based :)
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[20:19:07] <Smithx10> KungFuJe2us: its gonna be a kernel written in chicken.
[20:19:13] <danmcd> Robert is not at Joyent (not news) and I don't know for certain if Oxide will be an illumos user, but I know where I'd place my bet.
[20:21:10] <KungFuJe2us> ahhh, sounds a bit to me like it'll be in Rust from the ground up. Though, Bryan Cantrill specifically has said in talks that it's probably not worth the effort to reinvent all the core stuff in Rust, so...maybe not?
[20:22:12] <jbk> if i had to guess (from bryan's blog post), it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the rust stuff will be for firmware
[20:22:36] <KungFuJe2us> yes, his more recent talks seem to hint that that was a space ripe for Rust rewrites
[20:23:00] <jbk> if there's one part of the stack that deserves to be thrown on the trash pile and rewritten, it's firmware
[20:23:33] <KungFuJe2us> admirable goal, but it would require active participation from vendors or a lot of core knowledge about how to interact with the raw sensors and controllers
[20:24:24] <jbk> as keith said, (i'm probably butchering the quote a bit), the OS isn't something to be worked around
[20:24:27] <KungFuJe2us> which I guess isn't outside of their wheel house entirely for some components. The must problematic piece of firmware that I've seen, on-disk controllers, requires intimate knowledge and probably a lot of NDAs to break through, though
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[20:26:16] <KungFuJe2us> Not chastizing anyone named there, I just recognize a lot of those names and really really important contributors to a project I love and use professionally and personally
[20:26:39] <KungFuJe2us> s/and/are/g
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[20:33:33] <KungFuJe2us> jbk: I guess a pretty good indicator that Oxide will revolve around Illumos is the stream of things rmustacc, Josh Clulow, and Patrick Mooney have been throwing back over the wall. Perhaps they want their changes back in the core code base so that they can use them :)
[20:38:41] <Agnar> sounds interesting
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[22:10:59] <neirac> jbk it seems my latest change on the cyclic seems to be doing something at least powertop changed. needs more testing though, I just deployed the platform to my triton instance to see how it goes
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[22:13:42] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11984 libproc: passing argument 2 to restrict-qualified parameter aliases with argument 1 -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[22:19:59] <KungFuJe2us> something seem fishy about this output? https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5809/console
[22:20:05] <jbk> neirac: cool
[22:20:39] <KungFuJe2us> what commit from gate was the most recent pulled down? I feel like I used to be able to see that from the build logs
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[22:31:52] <LeftWing> Whether we end up using illumos for something at Oxide or not, I'll still be around! Right now we're focused on a lot of lower level concerns like what hardware, firmware, etc; a lot of work to do before looking at upstack software.
[22:34:43] <jbk> presumably we'll be able to send ECC error events to fma on your hardware :P
[22:35:15] <LeftWing> lol
[22:35:56] <LeftWing> Getting things like that to be excellent is certainly something we think about a lot
[22:36:58] <jbk> if nothing else, i'm guessing we should be able to get illumos to run on it :)
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[22:45:18] <KungFuJe2us> jbk: from what I've heard about ECC, we don't want FMA to know about it, hah :-p
[22:46:51] <jbk> actually you do
[22:47:48] <jbk> what's worse is masking all the events until you get an uncorrectable event and have to panic
[22:50:20] <KungFuJe2us> I do wonder if the error frequency becomes much higher at higher frequencies
[22:50:32] <KungFuJe2us> by frequencies I mean memory clock speeds
[22:53:10] <KungFuJe2us> LeftWing: I guess firmware gives you a means to mitigate failed DIMMs via some setting in the BIOS, but it would be nice if FMA could retire a memory module for you, instead
[22:53:46] <KungFuJe2us> or better yet, if it's just a particular bank, retire that bank from the pool of memory, without having redundant DIMMs
[22:59:10] <Kurlon> KungFuJe2us my understanding is it's more the amount of memory than clock/tech that ups the error rate.
[22:59:53] <Kurlon> And I believe modern server grade x86/amd64 systems can do live DIMM retirement.
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[23:27:00] <KungFuJe2us> live DIMM replacement is done if you have redundant DIMMs allocated. I don't see any reason why the kernel can't just not allocate to a bad bank on the same DIMM, though, if it's made aware of the issue
[23:27:50] <KungFuJe2us> I can see this scenario being possible if the layout of banks vs addresses is exposed by an EEPROM onboard
[23:28:32] <KungFuJe2us> you could gracefully fail a couple of GBs on a DIMM due to a bad filter cap or something, and alert the tenant to swap the DIMM when possible
[23:29:17] <KungFuJe2us> the same cooperation might even be possible for flash devices and bad flash cells in SSDs
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