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[00:01:28] <gdamore> Well, what happens is that from what I can tell when we spl0 on the 2nd core as part of mp_startup_common, it goes sideways.
[00:01:56] <gdamore> What's weird is that when I issue an NMI, I don't even see that thread on the second core.
[00:02:13] <gdamore> Instead we're stuck doing TLB flushes typically as part of UFS or some ramdisk code.
[00:02:45] <gdamore> Which uses xcalls. But debugging the xcalls sucks because kmdb uses xcalls too -- so you wind up debugging the debugger. :/
[00:03:40] <gdamore> I've done a lot of single stepping of the assembly to get this far.
[00:07:02] <gdamore> Usually on core 0 we're stuck in start_other_cpus spinning.
[00:08:10] <gdamore> on core 1 its well past that usually: https://gist.github.com/gdamore/45f61a427b9819d88e0d752d717e259d
[00:09:09] <gdamore> I've not figured out how to debug the xcalls effectively, since kmdb seems to use the same facility....
[00:09:53] <copec> qemu can do x2apic
[00:09:59] <gdamore> I plan to upstream my MADT parsing fixes, but I want to make sure that I can get to the point where the darn thing boots up.
[00:10:23] <gdamore> We have another system with Silver Xeons which runs x2apic fine in the same system.
[00:11:04] <gdamore> This particular CPU is interesting because it breaks assumptions in the numbering of the APIC IDs and processor UIDs (ACPI).
[00:12:32] <gdamore> so for example, on the first CPU package we have APIC/_UID values 2, 4, 8, 10, 16, 22, 34, 40, 54, 68, 72, 80, 86, 98, 104, 114, 116
[00:13:20] <gdamore> The second package has 3, 5, 9, 11, 17, 23, 35, 41, 55, 69, 73, 81, 87, 99, 106, 115, 117
[00:13:53] <gdamore> The old parsing code could not deal with these gaps, or the fact that the first core was not at 0, at all.
[00:14:49] <gdamore> It also incorrectly shifted away the APIC ID from core 0 as it assumed that x2apic ID was in the LID register. But for x2APIs you need to look at all 32 bits, not just the upper 8.
[00:17:34] <gdamore> So CPU 1 has moved on I think, from mp_startup_common, but CPU 0 hasn't gotten the notice.
[00:18:38] <gdamore> Except that's not really right either...
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[00:23:23] <gdamore> It looks like threads are running on both CPUs, but what's weird is that none of my breakpoints in mp_startup_common after that spl0 are getting called.
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[09:11:00] <jzu_> ptribble: Yeah I also ended up to notify-params :)
[09:12:17] <jzu_> ptribble: list.suspect,fmnotify/smtp,reply-to astring root at jus dot si
[09:12:55] <jzu_> ptribble: still the sender is noaccess, oh well.. atleast it works: https://twitter.com/jussisallinen/status/1181206581234585600
[09:13:21] <jzu_> might have missed refresh though.. that would explain the noaccess
[09:18:29] <ptribble> The way notifications from SMF and FMA are configured is a bit of a mess
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[09:20:52] <jzu_> ptribble: indeed :)
[09:23:30] <jzu_> now I just sit and wait disk to fail, ahh
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[09:24:04] <jzu_> PagerDuty is quite no-brainer at $10 a month for 6 users, not too much for private use
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[10:02:26] <lorban> ptribble: about the OpenJDK port, Magnus Ihse Bursie came up with interesting remarks and questions
[10:02:56] <ptribble> Yes, I saw that.
[10:03:23] <ptribble> I did wonder whether Studio was the real problem here.
[10:04:25] <lorban> I think I remember I read somewhere that OI used to build OpenJDK with gcc - could that be a good starting point?
[10:05:24] <jperkin> we build openjdk with gcc
[10:05:27] <ptribble> We already have a gcc port, which undoes all the studio assumptions
[10:06:52] <lorban> then I guess the next step would be to run the JCK against it (https://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/JckAccess/)
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[11:26:57] <jzu_> Anyone using Circonus with illumos? https://github.com/circonus-labs/circonus-agent/issues/67
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[19:05:18] <mnowak_> there is this persistent, unhappy guy with $PAGER being set to `less`: https://www.illumos.org/issues/10585
[19:06:27] <Reinhilde> i've not had any issues with $PAGER=less
[19:06:28] <mnowak_> I run my system with PAGER unset for a few weeks and I don't see any change in the system's behavior, `man` is for sure fine
[19:07:19] <mnowak_> Reinhilde, nor did I, but he does (at least he believers that he does)
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[19:08:20] <Reinhilde> mnowak_: ask him to execute 'echo $PAGER $PAGER $PAGER' and recite the word that appears three times under that command
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[19:32:16] <KungFuJesus> https://www.illumos.org/issues/11773 Does anyone know where this patch is Gordon's referring to? I can't seem to find it in the nexenta fork's repos
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[19:32:59] <igork> KungFuJesus: probably it on hidden internal repo
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[19:56:28] <LeftWing> KungFuJesus: Send Gordon an email and ask
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[20:42:18] <danmcd> @KungFuJesus see if github.com/joyent/illumos-nexenta has it
[20:42:24] <danmcd> aaaah!
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[20:42:36] <danmcd> https://github.com/Nexenta/illumos-nexenta/
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[20:43:10] <danmcd> Those github paths roll of the fingers reflexively if you're not careful.
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[21:19:10] <copec> Anyone know if gdamore made any progress?
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[21:20:57] <KungFuJesus> danmcd: already check there, it doesn't
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[22:15:09] <mxzcrit> Is Illumos still an active OS?
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[22:19:54] <KungFuJesus> mxzcrit: I'd argue so. It's not the same scale as something like Linux or even FreeBSD, but it has more contributors and activity than say dragonflyBSD
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[22:20:06] <KungFuJesus> https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/commits/master
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[22:25:16] <mxzcrit> Ok thanks. The website ,illumos.org ,says OmniOS and OpenIndiana are a good place for new users — what are the differences between the two and do y’all have a recommendation?
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[22:27:35] <mxzcrit> Probably looking for something used often with cloud based solutions.
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[22:28:07] <jbk> omnios is more server oriented, while openindiana is more desktop focused
[22:28:22] <mxzcrit> Ok thx
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[22:28:37] <jbk> and smartos is more like a hypervisor
[22:28:44] <jbk> (speaking in broad terms)
[22:28:48] <mxzcrit> Ok
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[22:41:28] <KungFuJesus> OI-hipster and omniOS bloody I think are pretty equivalent in terms of server usage
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[22:41:41] <KungFuJesus> with the exception that omniOS has lx zones
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