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[07:48:44] <tsoome> LeftWing: ping:)
[07:48:59] <LeftWing> Hello
[07:49:01] <tsoome> g’morning:)
[07:49:20] <LeftWing> And good evening to you!
[07:50:08] <tsoome> have you had chance to test 11753 loader: i386_loadaddr() should check for FB address — is it fixin your case or do we need to investigate more?
[07:51:30] <LeftWing> I have not! I'll need to build an OmniOS package to test
[07:51:45] <tsoome> ok, i see.
[07:52:32] <tsoome> I did post it for RTI anyhow, as it certainly does not hurt to have
[07:52:42] <tsoome> have it*
[07:52:48] <LeftWing> Fair enough
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[07:53:07] <LeftWing> With 11757, do you know which bug introduced the regression
[07:54:37] <tsoome> the installboot rewrite, ‘11634 installboot should support ESP updates
[07:54:57] <LeftWing> Ah OK
[07:55:24] <tsoome> those corner cases:D
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[07:57:38] <tsoome> the 11755 is “good” just because it does have trigger - any loader update with version up will do in that sense.
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[08:00:00] <tsoome> found nice and compact pkcs5_pbkdf2 yesterday, now I need one for aes ccm/gcm:)
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[10:12:41] <leoric> andy_js: sh: line 1: /usr/perl5/5.22/bin/i386/perl: not found
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[10:15:17] <andy_js> Uh oh. What OS are you building on?
[10:15:36] <leoric> on OI, of course
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[10:16:39] <leoric> we have 32-bit and 64-bit perl, but it's organized differently, one version is 32-bit-only, one - 64-bit-only
[10:17:27] <leoric> I understand when it doesn't start to build 64-bit modules in correct way automagically, but when it just breaks, this is unfortunate
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[10:35:07] <andy_js> OK I’m trying to figure out what’s going on.
[10:35:33] <andy_js> It kind of looks like OI ship both variants but it’s not isaexec enabled?
[10:36:11] <ptribble> The assumption baked into 7661 is that the perl binaries are in architecture-specific subdirectories of bin
[10:36:29] <ptribble> This isn't true on Tribblix or OI
[10:36:31] <leoric> andy_js: I'd set PERL.32, PERL.64
[10:36:39] <leoric> (or similar vars)
[10:36:54] <ptribble> On OI, the 32 and 64-bit are entirely different versions of perl
[10:36:55] <leoric> based on them, I'd figured out privlib and archlib
[10:37:08] <leoric> something like perl -e 'use Config; print $Config{privlib};'
[10:37:12] <leoric> perl -e 'use Config; print $Config{archlib};'
[10:37:40] <andy_js> It’s assuming architecture subdirectories because it’s assuming isaexec.
[10:38:32] <leoric> we have /usr/perl5/5.22 and /usr/perl5/5.24, first is 32-bit, second is 64-bit
[10:38:57] <andy_js> I’m loosing even more faith in OI.
[10:39:05] <leoric> In future we could drop 32-bit
[10:39:18] <leoric> thank you
[10:39:36] <leoric> I know, people believe in us ;)
[10:40:17] <andy_js> So the whole one version being 32-bit and another being 64-bit should not in theory be an issue assuming the appropriate overrides are set.
[10:40:29] <leoric> yes
[10:41:21] <leoric> Should we set overrides for XSUBPP and XSUBPP64?
[10:43:53] <andy_js> I’d certainly try it.
[10:46:51] <andy_js> Normally when you build illumos-gate on OI which perl version do you build it against?
[10:47:05] <andy_js> I’m assuming it’s the 32-bit version.
[10:47:13] <leoric> 32-bit
[10:47:56] <andy_js> I would also advise setting BUILDPERL64=‘#’ then.
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[11:14:52] <andy_js> leoric: What am I doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/PtVQHbCK
[11:17:37] <leoric> missed pkg update
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[11:26:02] <yuripv> why perl modules are needed at all in the gate?
[11:26:33] <yuripv> helper scripts in perl I could understand (added one myself recently), but why modules?
[11:27:48] <ptribble> We have subsystems, commands, daemons written in perl
[11:28:49] <ptribble> Eg intrd, lgrpinfo, pginfo, pgstat, proj*
[11:29:02] <ptribble> Which rely on perl modules for their functionality
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[11:31:04] <yuripv> :(
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[11:35:28] <andy_js> Exactly.
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[11:58:36] <andyf> Anyone building gate on OmniOS after 7661, needs to update their .env file
[11:58:46] <andyf> I've emailed the list and updated https://downloads.omnios.org/env/
[11:59:04] <andyf> but it should just be: export PERL_VARIANT=-thread-multi
[11:59:34] <andyf> The good news is that now it should be possible to build gate on omnios from inside a gate onu!
[12:07:25] <wilbury> what's "onu"? os+network+userland?
[12:07:37] <andyf> OS/Net Update
[12:07:46] <wilbury> i see.
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[12:08:12] <andyf> It's a tool to create a new BE with the packages that you have just built from gate
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[13:20:54] <andy_js> leoric: I think I have a fix that won’t negatively impact OmniOS.
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[15:36:02] <andy_js> leoric: https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2359
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[15:42:45] <tsoome> dmake is attempting to kill me.
[15:44:17] <andyf> andy_js, can't you avoid creating the NOT_ variables by reversing the PERLBINDIR64 lines and using BUILDPERL32?
[15:45:33] <andyf> Whatever you end up doing, I would suggest a comment in there explaining what's going on.
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[15:52:35] <andy_js> What’s wrong with the NOT_ variables? They are used in some other places.
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[15:56:19] <andyf> It just makes it hard to read - particularly as the meaning of the normal ones is kind of inverted already
[15:57:07] <andy_js> OK. I’ll take those out. I actually put those in because I thought they made it easier to read.
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[15:57:55] <andyf> Maybe wait to see what others think; it could just be me.
[15:58:04] <andyf> I have a hard enough time seeing POUND_SIGN :D
[16:01:34] <andy_js> Have another look: https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2359/
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[16:06:29] <andyf> I'm not sure that does what you need any more
[16:07:37] <andy_js> I think it’s good enough.
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[16:11:12] <andyf> For OI, would they set BUILDPERL64=# ?
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[16:15:55] <andy_js> I would advise that, yes.
[16:16:42] <andyf> which would set PERLBINDIR64 to bin/$(MACH64) ?
[16:19:01] <andy_js> Correct.
[16:19:43] <andy_js> But as 64-bit perl wouldn’t get built in that case, it’s irrelevant.
[16:21:45] <andy_js> When is that VERSION thing getting integrated? I keep running into ctfmerge errors.
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[16:36:41] <tsoome> as we all:)
[16:38:08] <andy_js> Better than suffering alone I suppose.
[16:41:09] <jlevon> andy_js: sending out a new version shortly
[16:41:56] <andy_js> tsoome: Would you mind looking over this one? https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2359/
[16:42:09] <andy_js> I think if I don’t get this one in soon folks are going to start hounding me.
[16:46:37] <tsoome> it seems to make sense on reading but I only did read:)
[16:47:25] <tsoome> afk..
[16:48:46] <leoric> andy_js: note, that it's not strictly equivalent to previous version on omnios
[16:49:28] <leoric> ah, that's only when variables are set
[16:55:38] <jlevon> andy_js: we just got broke by this. thanks for fixing. I suppose we'd have to set both BUILDPERL64 AND BUILDPERL32 to #
[16:55:39] <jlevon> right?
[16:57:43] <andy_js> You should set BUILDPERL64 to #
[16:57:57] <andy_js> Unless you want to completely disable building of all perl modules.
[16:58:20] <jlevon> so how would the fix help us then
[16:58:33] <jlevon> oh nm
[16:58:36] <jlevon> can't read. thanks.
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[17:02:23] <andy_js> Can I get another code review in that case?
[17:04:28] <andy_js> Thanks.
[17:05:11] <andyf> jlevon, that rdmsr ioctl is really nice. We could get tycho/cpuid to do a few more things now.
[17:05:43] <jlevon> andyf: yeah. that'd be great.
[17:06:00] <jlevon> andyf: I just added a couple of AMD bits there after updating but there's still a bunch of work to do
[17:09:11] <andy_js> Uh oh. I think I might have just hit that bootloader bug that folks were talking about.
[17:09:28] <andy_js> My OmniOS bloody VM is stuck on a black screen with a flashing cursor.
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[17:09:44] <andyf> andy_js, you need to interrupt the boot early to get to the boot prompt, and enter just "-t"
[17:10:07] <andyf> or, press escape from the boot menu and type "framebuffer off" then "boot"
[17:10:21] <andyf> then `pkg update loader`, `bootadm install-bootloader -f`
[17:10:23] <andyf> and you should be ok
[17:10:34] <andy_js> I don’t get a boot menu.
[17:11:21] <andy_js> There’s nothing to interupt. It goes straight to a black screen.
[17:12:53] <andyf> Then that doesn't sound like the one I know about..
[17:13:07] <andyf> there was a second one that affected an openindiana user I think
[17:14:44] <andy_js> This thing is now unbootable.
[17:16:46] <andyf> You don't even see this? https://paste.ec/paste/dhsFjd8K#xJD7cnVa2TB4ErUSvIdTst4F34Vn3LQLJxtgQvSdc1v
[17:16:51] <andyf> (it only flashes up briefly)
[17:22:48] <andy_js> Nope.
[17:25:05] <andy_js> So I tried to boot the latest OmniOS bloody ISO and now it’s all jacked up.
[17:26:18] <andy_js> https://paste.ec/paste/-1Gj7aiI#ElxSl-R2EXEd4PeebFfRmrzj6eBNyci0LC1VjrHmDbl
[17:26:35] <andyf> 20190926 ? That's the one I booted to get that screenshot
[17:26:56] <andyf> ah ok, yes...
[17:27:08] <andy_js> Yes, same one.
[17:27:28] <andyf> You need to load a different font when disabling the frame buffer from the ok prompt..
[17:28:05] <andyf> just checking which one is likely to be right
[17:28:07] <andy_js> Is that documented somewhere?
[17:29:37] <andyf> loadfont /boot/fonts/6x12.fnt
[17:29:39] <andyf> framebuffer off
[17:29:49] <andyf> that at least is readable but it is probably not the right one
[17:30:09] <andyf> ah, use 8x14.fnt
[17:30:56] <andyf> andy_js, no.. `framebuffer off` should probably pick a font
[17:32:05] <andy_js> Yikes. I suppose it is readable… but
[17:32:24] <andyf> yeah, 8x14 is the proper one I think
[17:32:39] <andy_js> https://paste.ec/paste/V2Krr31e#3hlJv9geKGgzYGIvBGRCagHOpOJ-FMkN2uBI8XZr3Gu
[17:32:52] <andyf> not pretty
[17:34:50] <andy_js> Reminds me of Rogue for some reason.
[17:35:50] <andyf> 20190926 is supposed to be fixed and not require disabling the framebuffer..
[17:36:08] <andyf> but there are at least two different issues floating around
[17:36:43] <andyf> one is omnios-specific. Some changes made there exposed an issue/limitation
[17:42:14] <andy_js> After reinstalling loader I’m back in business.
[17:42:41] <andy_js> Not quite sure how my master boot record got corrupted.
[17:42:44] <andyf> then I think you hit the second flavour of issue
[17:42:52] <andy_js> I wasn’t running Chrome or anything wreckless like that.
[17:43:45] <andy_js> So should I expect to run into this again?
[17:45:59] <andyf> You should be ok. I think this is 11757 which will be fixed in OmniOS before there is another loader version update
[17:51:38] <tsoome> is it me or are all advocates somehow gone?:D
[17:52:09] <jlevon> rich is busy with other things
[17:52:27] <andy_js> It’s also still early for our US friends.
[17:52:50] <tsoome> aye
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[17:53:43] <jlevon> oh hurray packet loss
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[17:59:59] <igork> have to move some advocates to EUR time zone :
[18:00:01] <igork> :)
[18:00:15] <igork> tsoome: ^^^
[18:00:54] <igork> because critical fix for loader still not in tree
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[18:04:07] <ptribble> do we have "product management"?
[18:04:25] <ptribble> (Context: OpenJDK...)
[18:04:56] <igork> i think it can be related to product, but not a project - like illumos does
[18:05:43] <igork> illumos is not product - it can be part of product
[18:05:57] <igork> it's my opinion
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[18:07:42] <ptribble> I suspect the assumption in the query I just got is that illumos is a business
[18:08:40] <igork> you can't use illumos as is - you need additional components fro discribution
[18:08:41] <ptribble> But the indications are that at least one company is going to pick up the openjdk solaris port
[18:09:47] <igork> well, we need company in business based on illumos with openjdk - right?
[18:10:16] <igork> or we need just a company in business based on illumos?
[18:10:49] <igork> for example: we have company in business based on dilos
[18:11:06] <igork> dilos still based on illumos
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[18:21:45] <LeftWing> ptribble: It did sound like Garrett had some resources to dedicate to the JDK
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[18:22:16] <LeftWing> i.e., through his employer RackTop who ships some appliances based on illumos
[18:23:15] <ptribble> Yeah, I'm just trying to work out how to put the pitch to openjdk
[18:23:48] <LeftWing> If there's an OpenBSD port, I feel like we're on a pretty similar footing
[18:24:22] <LeftWing> On the plus side, it's not a net new port because we can presumably copy paste a lot of the existing Solaris stuff to start with
[18:24:31] <ptribble> Which does depend, a little, on whether someone wants to keep the solaris support, and on what terms
[18:25:00] <ptribble> I still think we want a separate illumos port
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[18:25:10] <LeftWing> Definitely
[18:25:26] <ptribble> But I think the application needs to take whatever other people are doing
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[18:25:39] <ptribble> in terms of the regular solaris port into account
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[18:28:42] <LeftWing> I mean I think it's fine to say we'd start with a clone of the Solaris port basically, but we'd then be immediately and completely divorced from it.
[18:29:29] <LeftWing> We'd not want to be on the hook for needing to test our changes on Oracle Solaris for instance
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[18:30:03] <LeftWing> Or even needing to account for differences between us and them
[18:34:55] <ptribble> The thing about that JEP is that it really covers 3 things
[18:35:22] <ptribble> Support for Solaris the OS; support for Studio compilers; support for SPARC cpus
[18:38:29] <ptribble> I think it would make everybody's life easier if Studio were dropped, regardless
[18:39:08] <rmustacc> And I think we need to be somewhat practical and priorize the OS over SPARC. Given our current SPARC resources.
[18:39:12] <rmustacc> *prioritze
[18:39:41] <igork> hw resources?
[18:41:34] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10517 Convert dkio(7I) to mandoc -- Jason King <jason.king at joyent dot com>
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[18:46:09] <LeftWing> ptribble: Yes, Studio should go.
[18:46:36] <LeftWing> I don't think anybody would fight to keep it, even.
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[19:10:50] <rzezeski> LeftWing: There's always _somebody_
[19:11:03] <LeftWing> lol
[19:11:13] <LeftWing> Well, we'll see I guess.
[19:11:14] <rzezeski> you know you shouldn't tempt the gods like that
[19:11:57] <ricksha-512> clang built solaris kernel when? :^)
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[19:13:26] <rmustacc> Well, an illumos one will happen when someone wants to do the work.
[19:14:35] <rzezeski> pesky work
[19:14:42] <rzezeski> always ruining a good time
[19:15:05] <rmustacc> It's true.
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[20:02:23] <KungFuJesus> Man, there is still nothing more fragile than the house of cards that is a gnome-session
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[21:41:25] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11755 loader: command_lsmod does show garbage on screen -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[21:44:49] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11719 timod: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[21:49:54] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11763 Build can't find perl on OI Hipster -- Andrew Stormont <astormont at racktopsystems dot com>
[21:51:11] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11720 rpcmod: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:51:55] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11658 Some capabilities are invalid for SMB 2.002 -- Andrew Stormont <astormont at racktopsystems dot com>
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[21:53:47] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11722 usbwcm: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[21:59:02] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11723 cryptmod: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[22:01:40] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11724 spppcomp: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:03:55] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11725 tirdwr: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[22:09:02] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11726 ttcompat: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:10:31] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11728 exacctsys: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[22:14:15] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11727 usb_ah: cast between incompatible function types -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[22:27:49] <sjorge> The forcast today is some some commits throughout the day
[22:28:00] <sjorge> Thanks autocorrect :)
[22:28:02] <sjorge> Sorry tsoome
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[22:38:43] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11754 ZoL trim port used wrong offset for sd unmap -- Jerry Jelinek <jerry.jelinek at joyent dot com>
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[23:16:48] <andy_js> Does that fix the issue corruption issue?
[23:17:13] <sjorge> From following the issue, I think so
[23:17:21] <sjorge> But not 100% sure
[23:17:30] <andyf> The TRIM one?
[23:17:38] <andy_js> Yeah.
[23:17:52] <rmustacc> Based on the ticket, it should fix aspects of it.
[23:17:58] <sjorge> Something about jerry pulling in some of the mecenas code, that assumes and offset that the ZoL code already calculate and it looks like this one drops the offset baseline
[23:17:59] <andyf> Probably, but I think Jerry is still testing and looking through (at least I get that impression from his posts)
[23:18:00] <rmustacc> However, we're still missing a valid blacklist.
[23:18:15] <rmustacc> Since we know there are a number of drives in the wild that don't trim correctly.
[23:18:19] <rmustacc> Or unmap.
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[23:25:48] <sjorge> This won’t work for NVME yet right? Just SAS disks using the sd driver?
[23:26:16] <rmustacc> Correct, the NVMe deallocate (IIRC) op has not been wired up.
[23:26:26] <rmustacc> That will likely require a new blkdev entry point, I imagine.
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