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[08:01:04] <tsoome> what error do you get?
[08:03:14] <Reinhilde> tsoome: address object already exists
[08:03:20] <Reinhilde> i'm paraphrasing
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[08:19:10] <tsoome> yes, because you need to create new address object
[08:19:33] <tsoome> every address has its corresponding address object
[08:20:29] <tsoome> then later, you can manipulate with those address objects
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[09:02:20] <Reinhilde> except I am unable to create the address object because it already exists
[09:06:54] <Reinhilde> has anyone ever successfully run gdb on illumos, sunos, solaris, or anything akin to them?
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[09:27:28] <yuripv> sure, there are gdb users
[09:28:45] <Reinhilde> except I am unable to create the address object because it already exists, tsoome
[09:29:34] <tsoome> yes, you need to create new name
[09:29:47] <Reinhilde> but then it gives me another error
[09:29:53] <tsoome> can you paste ipadm output?
[09:31:00] <Reinhilde> i may just be delusional
[09:31:06] <Reinhilde> calling the addrobj 'a' works fine
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[09:32:31] <tsoome> the addrobject name consists of 2 components - random name and nic
[09:33:12] <tsoome> actually vice versa, but still
[09:33:23] <Reinhilde> yes, I am not saying I left out the iface
[09:33:26] <Reinhilde> i didn't
[09:33:35] <Reinhilde> i seem to recall that the so-called random name used to only work if I was calling it 'v6'
[09:33:41] <Reinhilde> or 'v4' as the case may be
[09:34:11] <tsoome> no, it really should be random (within limits)
[09:34:25] <wilbury> i losely recall that not all address object names are acceptable
[09:34:35] <Reinhilde> a question mark confused
[09:34:37] <Reinhilde> it
[09:34:40] <Reinhilde> underscores confused it
[09:34:48] <wilbury> yes, underscore for sure
[09:35:13] <Reinhilde> distantly i seem to recall even 'a' confusing it
[09:35:15] <Reinhilde> but now 'a' works
[09:35:31] <tsoome> usially the name must start with letter
[09:35:37] <tsoome> usually*
[09:35:44] <yuripv> update the man page with allowed strings so we could point users to it :)
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[09:44:31] <tsoome> :)
[09:48:39] <despair86> >gdb
[09:49:25] <despair86> tfw gdb doesn't provide usable stack traces even with debug symbols enabled (both stabs and dwarf are broken in gdb, dbx works fine)
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[09:53:59] <tsoome> for gate components?
[09:54:30] <tsoome> try make SOURCEDEBUG=yes
[09:59:58] <Reinhilde> tsoome: userspace applications being compiled with gcc or clang
[10:00:29] <despair86> yes
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[14:49:06] <jimklimov1> uh, this is something I don't see often... maybe even never seen...
[14:49:06] <jimklimov1> Sep 13 14:37:06 jimoi ^Mpanic[cpu3]/thread=ffffff000fe22c20:
[14:49:06] <jimklimov1> Sep 13 14:37:06 jimoi genunix: [ID 296404 kern.notice] Memory corruption detected for connection [::ffff:10.0.2.15.41737, ::ffff:91.194.74.133.80] TCP_ESTABLISHED.
[14:49:53] <jimklimov1> note this was in a VM that runs on a laptop, so no ECC etc, rather an anecdotal curiosity of how a "pkg update" can go wrong :)
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[14:51:13] <jimklimov1> by the way, has anyone by chance got experience with virtualbox and nvme and an illumos guest using one? :)
[14:52:48] <jimklimov1> trying to boost my laptop, mileage varied a lot with different controllers, but a SAS and a SATA controllers agreed to pass through the partition (and whole disk) with very decent speeds - but not as stellar as NVMe claims to be able
[14:53:13] <jimklimov1> and the virtualbox nvme controller does not expose the disks in OI VM
[14:56:12] <jimklimov1> so while what I get now is quite a bit better than I had, by specs I hoped for another order of magnitude better :)
[14:58:27] <jimklimov1> curiously, an USB HDD passthrough only worked as a SAS attachment and none other, so there is no real hotplug for backups - gotta power off the VM, add the virtual disk, power on, backup, power off, remove the disk, keep working :( but the possibility of those backups with also decent speeds, despite the clumsiness and downtimes, is an improvement over having none :)
[14:59:50] <jimklimov1> if somebody else gets to such adventures, for the nvme card I so far went exposing it over virtualbox SATA because that allows marking it as an SSD (I hope it can do TRIM then)
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[15:03:47] <jimklimov1> also I have a number of guest OSes that I want to reside in their raw partitions for build-speed, and found that on one hand Windows (host OS, corporate requirement) does not fully allow different processes to grab the disk device so initially I could not start several VMs at once using the partition-passthroughs: the first one running blocked the others. However I managed to mark the virtual media devices as Shareable and then it worked
[15:04:17] <jimklimov1> so here's another trick for people who have to virtualize their illumos systems
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[16:55:50] <andy_js> tsoome: Can you please have another look over this one? https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2284/
[16:56:40] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11676 Update tzdata to 2019c -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>
[16:56:41] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11677 Update hwdata to 2019.09.11 -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>
[16:58:39] <tsoome> here you go
[16:58:50] <yuripv> I guess we can already remove the lint cruft from usr/src/Makefile.master{,.64}?
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[17:05:53] <LeftWing> yuripv: lint begone!
[17:06:40] <copec> ^ https://cyberclean.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/cc_roller_action_image4.jpg
[17:11:32] <andy_js> Aren’t there still a bunch of lint rules defined everywhere?
[17:11:54] <andy_js> OK I just answered my own question. Yes, there are.
[17:12:05] <andy_js> I’m not going to remove the lint definitions.
[17:16:19] <igork> yuripv: https://paste.dilos.org/?443c830871149073#BxWPCBsm6O9PLxeLE59Q71ZVTnkea3N/xJHUwckgj68=
[17:16:40] <igork> locale build failed to me - could you help me - where am i wrong with merge ?
[17:16:51] <igork> probably missmerge?
[17:17:24] <igork> i try to do:
[17:17:25] <igork> ksh bldenv.sh -d illumos.sh -c "cd usr/src/data && dmake -m serial install"
[17:21:57] <yuripv> igork: can you link to your source tree?
[17:23:15] <igork> https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/branch/int-zol
[17:23:41] <igork> just try to do cherry-pick and fix build
[17:24:50] <yuripv> https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/src/dilos2/usr/src/data/locale/Makefile.com#lines-95 -- that line doesn't look right, compare with illumos-gate
[17:25:20] <igork> ok , thanks
[17:26:54] <igork> it is another branch
[17:27:03] <igork> take a look 'int-zo' branch
[17:27:06] <igork> int-zol
[17:27:24] <igork> you are looking to dilos2 branch - it's not updated yet
[17:27:42] <igork> https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/src/int-zol/usr/src/data/locale/Makefile.com
[17:27:46] <igork> it is correct version
[17:28:14] <igork> just did a diff with illumos - have no differences
[17:28:47] <yuripv> oh, ok, checking
[17:29:03] <andyf> It's nice to now have `zpool create -o ashift=` and to have the ashift property (`zpool get ashift`)...
[17:29:11] <andyf> but I'm not sure I should be able to `zpool set ashift=12`
[17:29:28] <igork> andyf: ashoft is fine
[17:29:42] <igork> *ashift
[17:30:38] <LeftWing> andyf: That does seem a bit confusing
[17:30:45] <igork> yuripv: https://cl.ly/306ef76b90b1 - illumos version on left panel
[17:30:49] <andyf> I expected it to be read-only
[17:31:19] <yuripv> igork: which chmod is that? gnu?
[17:31:25] <igork> yes
[17:31:45] <yuripv> you'll need to modify https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/src/int-zol/usr/src/data/locale/Makefile#lines-150 to ignore errors
[17:31:55] <igork> let me try
[17:32:09] <yuripv> I'm not sure how to do that for gnu chmod
[17:32:11] <LeftWing> I would recommend using the system chmod
[17:32:38] <LeftWing> As that's what we expect to be in the build environment.
[17:32:59] <andyf> i.e. PROP_ONETIME
[17:33:41] <igork> yuripv: thanks, it fixed
[17:34:05] <igork> https://paste.dilos.org/?21a007f0fcafa874#9vzaYK9+6JR6+gln5Mwl0dLlzA53yTgFbRrBR/MIo24=
[17:35:12] <andyf> LeftWing - it's obviously just my understanding, since ZoL has a specific test to confirm that the pool ashift property is settable
[17:35:43] <LeftWing> andyf: Huh. I wonder what it _means_ to update it. Certainly it won't change the ashift value for existing vdevs.
[17:36:17] <andyf> When set, this property is used as the
[17:36:17] <andyf> default hint value in subsequent vdev operations (add, attach and
[17:36:17] <andyf> replace). Changing this value will not modify any existing vdev,
[17:36:17] <andyf> not even on disk replacement; however it can be used, for
[17:36:18] <andyf> instance, to replace a dying 512B sectors disk with a newer 4KiB
[17:36:19] <andyf> sectors device: this will probably result in bad performance but
[17:36:20] <andyf> at the same time could prevent loss of data.
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[17:37:48] <andyf> (sorry, that was only supposed to be a couple of lines!).. I'll keep reading, I don't yet fully understand that..
[17:39:11] <tsoome> darn, that reminds me I havent fixed the zpool create for whole disk setup...
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[17:40:12] <LeftWing> andyf: I guess they were using it to work around https://smartos.org/bugview/OS-4718
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[17:43:32] <andyf> yes, looks like it... `zpool replace -o ashift=9` should let you swap in a 4Kn drive to an ashift=9 vdev now
[17:44:06] <andyf> and get "staggeringly bad performance" :)
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[17:46:05] <yuripv> igork: yep. I guess we could do the same in illumos-gate, will do in next related change.
[17:46:22] <igork> yuripv: thanks
[17:47:08] <tsoome> https://illumos.org/rb/r/2289/ could also have few eyes:)
[17:53:33] <yuripv> dangerous
[17:54:57] <yuripv> may be add a README describing the changes done for zfs and when this version should not be used (if any)?
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[18:24:10] <igork> tsoome: disagree with lz4 - zfs depend on it and better control and test it with zfs
[18:24:18] <igork> but up to you
[18:44:10] <LeftWing> ZFS is part of the operating system as a whole
[18:44:29] <LeftWing> ZFS tests that exercise the compression will still run
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[20:46:28] <richlowe> LeftWing: I'm not sure the ZFS tests catch the issue mahrens raises
[20:46:38] <richlowe> though to be honest, the issue mahrens raises is also horrifying.
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[22:05:47] <pcd> The nopwrite stuff I believe is covered by the zfs tests?
[22:05:53] <pcd> Assuming they use lz4
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[22:28:42] <copec> andyf For 512e platter drives the performance goes to absolute hell when used as ashift=9
[22:29:03] <Cthulhux> hm
[22:29:18] <copec> I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not
[22:29:25] <Cthulhux> i THINK i found why my server isn reachable from the outside: the hoster says i use all disk space
[22:29:35] <richlowe> jbk: have you/anyone looked into pam/zfs-crypto integration?
[22:29:38] <Cthulhux> but "df -k" and "beadm list" suggest otherwise
[22:29:41] <Cthulhux> what could be wrong?
[22:30:41] <richlowe> Cthulhux: zpool list thinks you have space, but you don't?
[22:30:49] <richlowe> ... could they have overprovisioned a sparse disk image or something?
[22:30:54] <richlowe> that sounds unlikely, though.
[22:31:02] <Cthulhux> zpool list says i have 444G free
[22:31:11] <Cthulhux> which sounds reasonable
[22:31:31] <Cthulhux> i sent them an e-mail
[22:31:39] * Cthulhux shrugs
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[22:55:09] <jbk> richlowe: not yet.. I'm not sure how that'd work
[22:55:21] <jbk> for smartos at least, we're doing whole pool or nothing
[22:55:37] <jbk> but I could see it make sense for encrypted $HOME
[22:55:52] <jbk> if $HOME is its own dataset
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[23:35:43] <igork> Cthulhux: you can try reduce swap and check
[23:36:07] <igork> but zfs reserve space and will not provide ability to use all space at all
[23:36:13] <Cthulhux> igork: mind to explain?
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[23:36:54] <igork> it's old story - where zfs operations not possible if you have no free space on pool
[23:38:11] <Cthulhux> but zpool says that i _do_ have free space..
[23:38:14] <igork> and as one solution - less swap can fix it
[23:38:24] * SolarHilde swaps igork
[23:38:59] <Cthulhux> how can i reduce swap
[23:39:01] <Cthulhux> ?
[23:40:45] <Reinhilde> first you'll have to remove it from swap (being from bsd i think of that as 'swapoff' but...) and then you'll have to shrink the relevant zvol. make sure you aren't using any swap, because illumos does not have an oom killer to save you if this causes a problem
[23:41:05] <Reinhilde> this is assuming you're using swap on zfs
[23:42:21] <Cthulhux> swap -lhk says i have 3 gb of free swap
[23:44:37] <Reinhilde> Cthulhux: do you have enough free ram to unswap every page that is in swap
[23:45:18] <Cthulhux> 12G, basically
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[23:50:53] <Reinhilde> you'll want to swap -d your swap partition or zvol
[23:51:54] <Cthulhux> done
[23:52:13] <Reinhilde> then you'll want to shrink it (which is for you to figure out
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[23:57:28] <igork> Cthulhux: swap = zvol, you can try to do: zfs set volsize=<SIZE> rpool/swap - and remove it and add it back
[23:58:16] <igork> swap -l - will show full path
[23:58:16] <igork> swap -d <path> - remove swap
[23:58:16] <igork> swap -a <path> - add swap
[23:59:09] <Cthulhux> how much size is recommended?
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