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[01:48:09] <Reinhilde> what would cause `passwd root` as root in a chroot to issue error code 1 (permission denied)?
[01:48:33] <Reinhilde> is it possibly that I'm doing something wrong?
[01:55:03] <danmcd> "root in a chroot"? Like literally chroot? Probably because there's no /etc/passwd OR it's blocked off.
[01:56:45] <Reinhilde> danmcd: literally chroot, and i chrooted to it as root (which is probably not relevant). and there is an /etc/passwd.
[01:57:12] <Reinhilde> /etc/shadow appears to be a bit un-serene
[01:57:25] <danmcd> Hmmm. I wonder if `truss passwd root` (you can use `truss -o file passwd root` shows you EPERM in any of the syscalls?
[01:57:41] <danmcd> if you use -o, you'll have to cat/vi/more/etc "file". :)
[02:02:08] <Reinhilde> i'm just going to perform surgery on /etc/shadow. I don't have anything valuable on the system I'm performing surgery on
[02:09:27] <Reinhilde> shadow surgery worked
[02:09:39] <Reinhilde> but I had to use a password hash generated by, of all things, an IRCD
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[05:06:43] <Reinhilde> is the result of 'ipadm' usage persistent across reboots?
[05:11:24] <moridinn> yes, unless you specify -t
[05:16:49] <Reinhilde> i think i worked that out
[05:20:56] <Reinhilde> i need to kill all these virtual interfaces I created with ifconfig
[05:22:03] <Reinhilde> what search term do i input into duckduckgo (other than the word illumos obviously) to learn how to do this?
[05:23:29] <Reinhilde> logical interface w/e
[05:27:43] <Reinhilde> well i think i worked it out in my frenzied hypoglycemic typing
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[05:37:32] <Reinhilde> 170+ dynamically configured ipv6 virtual interfaces with the same fricking address
[05:37:47] <Reinhilde> what have i done?!
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[06:38:23] <Reinhilde> does Ctrl-C not work
[06:38:37] <Reinhilde> like is that intentional
[06:38:43] <Reinhilde> or is that an artifact of my nonstandard shell
[07:00:19] <LeftWing> Reinhilde: If you end up adding an entry manually to /etc/passwd and do not add the corresponding entry to /etc/shadow, I believe that's the error you'll get from passwd(1). You can run pwconv(1) and it will create the missing shadow entries automatically.
[07:06:10] <Reinhilde> LeftWing: I've long since fixed the issue. Turned out shadow was corrupted.
[07:06:18] <LeftWing> Ahh, OK!
[07:07:08] <Reinhilde> By an installer written by OmniOS.
[07:07:25] <LeftWing> Ah, you used the "set root password" option in the installer?
[07:07:28] <Reinhilde> yes.
[07:07:30] <Reinhilde> it's buggy.
[07:07:38] <Reinhilde> would you happen to know anything about why it seems like ssh connections to an omnios system drop after 15 minutes?
[07:07:45] <Reinhilde> is there some firewall I have to disable
[07:14:13] <Reinhilde> it's probably just me being stupid or something
[07:14:37] <moridinn> being stupid doesn't drop the ssh connection, so it's something else :)
[07:14:53] <moridinn> I'm not seeing that though
[07:14:57] <LeftWing> Reinhilde: I'm not sure! Is it a physical or a virtual system?
[07:17:04] <Reinhilde> virtual
[07:17:14] <LeftWing> What NIC driver are you using?
[07:17:33] <LeftWing> Oh, and when you say they drop, are they idle when that happens?
[07:17:47] <LeftWing> After it drops can you make a new connection OK without rebooting the VM?
[07:17:59] <Reinhilde> yes, new connections work fine, and by drop I just mean everything stops responding
[07:18:07] <Reinhilde> the connection probably doesn't drop
[07:18:14] <Reinhilde> well the interface through which all packets to the internet are sent is vioif0 if that's what you were asking about NIC drivers
[07:18:19] <Reinhilde> it's probably just me overloading the thing and turning it unresponsive
[07:18:45] <LeftWing> What is the host OS, and what is the hypervisor?
[07:18:46] <Reinhilde> a connection I've had going for a while actually is still going so I think I'm just talking to ghosts
[07:18:53] <Reinhilde> host os and hypervisor completely unknown
[07:18:58] <LeftWing> Oh it's a cloud?
[07:19:08] <Reinhilde> well that's what they call themself
[07:19:10] <LeftWing> ha
[07:19:25] <LeftWing> I am interested mostly because I did some substantial work on vioif recently
[07:19:27] <Reinhilde> I say it as "I just pay someone five bucks sixty a month USD to put me up with a VM in NJ"
[07:19:29] <LeftWing> Hopefully I haven't broken it
[07:21:01] <LeftWing> Reinhilde: If you run "modinfo | grep vioif" do you see "VIRTIO" in capital letters?
[07:21:45] <Reinhilde> Right now I couldn't care less. It's more stable than my FreeBSD machine at home which isn't hard because it BSODs about every day
[07:22:01] <LeftWing> Alright!
[07:22:26] <Reinhilde> I'd switch, but my NIC isn't supported to my knowledge
[07:22:38] <LeftWing> What NIC is it?
[07:23:33] <Reinhilde> I couldn't tell you if my life depended on it
[07:23:39] <LeftWing> Haha, alright then
[07:23:57] <Reinhilde> but it's a wireless nic
[07:24:01] <LeftWing> Oooh
[07:24:06] <LeftWing> Yeah that can be tricky.
[07:24:43] <Reinhilde> my freebsd at home just nearly finished booting up from its most recent seizure
[07:27:07] <Reinhilde> Atheros AR946x/AR948x so says the dmesg ring buffer
[07:42:15] <moridinn> no wired NIC?
[07:43:49] <Reinhilde> i have one, but I do not have a long enough ethernet cable.
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[07:55:15] <Reinhilde> weird bug: what could cause clang's ld(1) in the context of sudo -i to close a tmux window while compiling google's protocol buffers under omnios? i'm not blaming illumos at all. it's more likely to be a tmux bug. but this is the first time i've seen it
[07:55:39] <Reinhilde> the ld warning, by the way, is attempted multiple inclusion
[07:58:01] <moridinn> printing some weird escape codes may be?
[07:59:49] <moridinn> try passing -fno-color-diagnostics and see if it changes anything
[08:15:11] <Reinhilde> i worked around it for now
[08:15:27] <Reinhilde> attempting to compile mosh, i now have an elfclass error
[08:15:47] <Reinhilde> ld: fatal: file /opt/local/lib/amd64/libprotobuf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[08:39:00] <moridinn> review for #11661 (as mailing lists are still eating my messages): https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2283/
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[08:42:22] <Reinhilde> is the target supposed to be i386-pc-solaris2.11 for a 64 bit application?
[08:43:33] <Reinhilde> so turns out it was the system's implementation of ld
[08:43:43] <Reinhilde> because i'm stupid
[08:43:48] <Reinhilde> and there's no clang ld
[08:44:28] <Reinhilde> i'm just blogging at myself
[08:44:30] <Reinhilde> ignore me
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[08:48:12] <moridinn> :)
[08:48:27] <Reinhilde> could y'all /buffer clear or something lol
[08:49:50] <Reinhilde> i'm maximally embarrassed
[08:49:53] <Reinhilde> you can leave it in the logs
[08:49:56] <Reinhilde> but just like
[08:50:00] <Reinhilde> wash it from your eyes temporarily
[08:50:30] <Reinhilde> and in 20 years when we all have a shot of whiskey by our keyboards and most of the people here have beards down to where I have hair down to, we can laugh at how I could have been so stupid
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[08:51:32] <Reinhilde> but yeah this multiarch thing is giving me some grief
[08:51:50] <Reinhilde> (i'm from a world where that's what it's called)
[08:52:17] <moridinn> what are you doing exactly?
[08:52:33] <Reinhilde> moridinn: attempting to compile mosh.
[08:52:49] <Reinhilde> first i had to compile protobuf, because that doesn't come as a package in the omnios IPS
[08:53:26] <Reinhilde> other than the strange terminal kill bug, that went smooth
[08:53:28] <moridinn> try using pkgsrc? it's already there
[08:53:44] <Reinhilde> excuse you?
[08:53:54] <moridinn> https://pkgsrc.joyent.com/install-on-illumos/
[08:54:13] <moridinn> you can even skip compiling step :)
[08:54:37] <Reinhilde> seems too much work to have two packaging systems on the same box
[08:54:53] <Reinhilde> you've got to note, I come from a world where that's a BIG no-no
[08:55:02] <moridinn> I'd drop IPS if I felt that way
[08:55:13] <Reinhilde> you don't EVER use rpm and apt on the same machine
[08:55:49] <moridinn> note that pkgsrc installs to /opt/local by default, and won't ever collide with the stuff you get from omnios ips
[08:56:28] <Reinhilde> i already use /opt/local for what in the olden days would be considered site-local use and would like to keep that consistent
[08:56:55] <moridinn> ok, good luck with compiling then! :)
[08:57:00] <Reinhilde> i'll stick with what's (mostly) working
[08:59:57] <Reinhilde> ld: fatal: file /opt/local/lib/amd64/libprotobuf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[09:00:13] <moridinn> pass -m64?
[09:00:22] <Reinhilde> to what? I'm a total greenperson
[09:01:15] <Reinhilde> the CXX compiler?
[09:02:19] <Reinhilde> I hope I'm not the first person to make mosh work on a sunos machine
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[09:03:11] <moridinn> I mentioned that mosh is in pkgsrc, right? so you are definitely not the first
[09:03:31] <Reinhilde> well, tell them I said "thanks for making sure I'm not the first person to do this"
[09:04:01] <Reinhilde> but yes, passing -m64 to clang++ is what made it work
[09:04:38] <Reinhilde> maybe I should just default to stuffing that in cxxflags and cflags whenever I use clang for anything
[09:09:59] <Reinhilde> looks like i need to add some things to ld.config
[09:12:14] <Reinhilde> idk how it's written tho
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[09:16:59] <Reinhilde> fun times trying to get mosh to work on omnios without the pkgsrc
[09:17:00] <Reinhilde> :-)
[09:20:39] <Reinhilde> the only issue now is locale
[09:24:04] <moridinn> what about it?
[09:24:17] <Reinhilde> gives the charset 646 instead of utf-8
[09:24:43] <Reinhilde> i guess i shouldn't complain too much
[09:25:25] <moridinn> edit /etc/default/init and set LANG to you preferred UTF-8 one
[09:25:31] <moridinn> your, too
[09:25:42] <Reinhilde> heh
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[09:40:53] <kayront> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/34137
[09:41:01] <kayront> my evening! ruined!
[09:41:05] <kayront> :D
[09:43:53] <Reinhilde> kayront: what
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[09:44:16] <kayront> ^^
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[10:09:08] <tsoome> anyone used osx mojave nfs server bits? I’m getting rpc auth errors on mount (too weak)
[10:13:04] <wilbury> nfsv4 issue?
[10:14:23] <tsoome> na, got it: https://github.com/lmakarov/boot2docker-vagrant/issues/21
[10:14:30] <tsoome> this does solve it
[10:29:50] <wilbury> ah, makes sense.
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[10:40:50] <andyf> Reinhilde - I run mosh on OmniOS. That might be something worth adding to the standard extra repository
[10:41:26] <Reinhilde> andyf: i've only been on this for like 10 hours
[10:41:38] <andyf> OmniOS provides 'pkgsrc' branded zones which makes it easy to keep things mostly isolated.
[10:41:42] <Reinhilde> and I just had to abne crle
[10:41:57] <Reinhilde> abuse*
[10:42:03] <Reinhilde> s/abne/abuse/
[10:42:18] <andyf> just looking at my mosh build recipe, it doesn't look like I do anything clever..
[10:42:45] <Reinhilde> andyf: i did everything that was stupid, including using clang++ instead of g++
[10:42:59] <andyf> Ah, one of those great learning experiences then?
[10:43:15] <Reinhilde> yes, clang++ assumes -m32 by default
[10:43:28] <andyf> You can patch the runpath after build with elfedit, which is better than using crle IMO
[10:44:22] * Reinhilde sips salty duck broth
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[11:21:01] <tsoome> if you are tempted to use crle, thats usually the wrong tool:)
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[14:32:58] <kayront> "load_failed, Failed to load NIF library: 'ld.so.1: beam.smp: fatal: relocation error: R_AMD64_PC32: file /opt/local/lib/erlang/lib/crypto-4.5.1/priv/lib/crypto.so: symbol main: value 0x380115e91c4 does not fit'"
[14:33:05] <kayront> building devel/rebar
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[14:33:26] <kayront> i've seen these sorts of relocation error: R_AMD64_PC32 with other projects that are not known to run on illumos, any idea what it might be?
[14:34:35] <jperkin> usually caused by -G being used instead of -shared
[14:35:02] <jperkin> you should get my fix for that if you pull pkgsrc trunk
[14:36:16] <kayront> do you think it is the same with this (seC)
[14:36:42] <kayront> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/5804
[14:36:58] <kayront> in that case monerod does end up compiling, but spews nonsense and quits on startup
[14:37:51] <jperkin> can't say for sure, richlowe will know
[14:39:10] <kayront> i've been working on the other packages now the last couple of week and stopped looking into why monero is not working properly for illumos, but assuming some sage knows the solution then putting it in pkgsrc becomes possible
[14:41:36] <kayront> oh by the way, any idea why python for solaris appears to always be compiled without ncurses?
[14:42:15] <kayront> I was trying to get nyx (tor controller) to work the other day, and importing the ncurses module (it's written python) fails, did find some information online stating that this is the case but no luck finding out why
[14:42:42] <kayront> >>> import curses
[14:42:42] <kayront> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:42:42] <kayront> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
[14:42:43] <kayront> File "/opt/local/lib/python2.7/curses/__init__.py", line 15, in <module>
[14:42:43] <kayront> from _curses import *
[14:42:43] <kayront> ImportError: No module named _curses
[14:43:09] <kayront> linux:
[14:43:10] <kayront> >>> import curses
[14:43:10] <kayront> >>>
[14:43:15] <jperkin> it's a separate package
[14:48:03] <kayront> oh.
[14:48:17] <kayront> well, that's good news
[14:48:18] <kayront> :p
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[14:53:40] <Smithx10> Morning jperkin, someone on the githubs was pinging about gopsutil
[14:54:26] <Smithx10> is your branch in any kind of shape to be useful to someone?
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[14:54:39] <jperkin> I've not pushed anything to GH yet
[14:56:02] <Smithx10> I know :(
[14:56:17] <Smithx10> have you used . a github bounty or whatever yet?
[14:56:28] <Smithx10> maybe I could incentivize you with beer money :P
[14:56:43] <jperkin> I think it's unlikely my contract would allow that :)
[14:56:53] <Smithx10> neirac: if jperkin has expensive taste, wanna share the burden?
[14:57:05] <jperkin> there's very little there though, I only spent a few hours on it just to implement the loadavg bits
[14:57:32] <jperkin> but at least it uses the proper go-kstat module rather than calling /usr/bin/kstat for everything which is just going to hurt massively
[14:57:49] <jperkin> so a lot of sean's stuff will need rewriting
[14:58:36] <Smithx10> If you push a branch up, I can follow the style you were doing and maybe port more of those methods that gopsutil wants
[14:58:46] <jperkin> sure, will try to find a few mins
[14:58:54] <Smithx10> i know the feeling
[14:59:03] <Smithx10> I am supposed to submit something to gerrit
[14:59:10] <Smithx10> I find every excuse not to go do it hahahha
[14:59:36] <jperkin> there aren't enough swear words available whenever I'm infrequently forced to use gerrit
[15:01:04] <andyf> Heh - yeah, it's awful
[15:01:24] <moridinn> so why we are trying to switch to it? :)
[15:02:08] <andyf> Some people like it, Joyent people in particular have lots of experience with it
[15:02:27] <andyf> and the project could really do with something central to keep track of the RTI queue (the mailing list approach has some shortcomings)
[15:03:17] <Smithx10> after like 30 minutes
[15:03:32] <Smithx10> I kinda figured out how to put a pr hahaha
[15:03:39] <Smithx10> but im a pretty simple monkey so
[15:07:58] <jperkin> Smithx10: https://github.com/jperkin/gopsutil/commit/85cb8adacd364e902b5c1e2b2b69b2d8436fa3e8 is all I did on the gopsutil side, the rest was on the telegraf side and getting things ready for testing+further work
[15:08:14] <Smithx10> Thanks sir!!!!
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[15:26:07] <kayront> jperkin: at e407142b71d4fb00f6c7288b97af7a6d2a72a0cf still getting the relocation error with devel/rebar
[15:27:29] <jperkin> are you using our erlang or one you've built yourself, and if the latter does it have the fix from 38c34040334444f1e1ff2bdcbf7a251c40bf1500?
[15:28:47] <kayront> built myself, using pkgbuild
[15:28:55] <kayront> is there a make clean-depends equivalent ? maybe that's it
[15:28:59] <kayront> (i'm actually trying to build ejabberd)
[15:31:20] <kayront> bmake clean clean-depends it seems
[15:31:38] <kayront> i'm really going to miss ccache once this is over :p
[15:34:20] <kayront> same
[15:35:27] <jperkin> you rebuilt and repackaged erlang from scratch?
[15:36:23] <andy_js> I also want to voice my dislike of gerrit.
[15:36:24] <kayront> i should probably just tear down the sandbox and start over
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[16:11:37] <andyf> Reinhilde, I have just submitted a PR to add mosh to the OmniOS Extra package repository. It means I can retire my own private copy :)
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[17:32:19] <Kurlon_OI> Ok, got a workstation machine up and running with OI. When there are possible tweaks to the bnx driver to build and test, can I create an omnios zone on here to do the building of said driver within?
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[17:57:15] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11640 add zpool ashift property tunable -- loli10K <ezomori.nozomu at gmail dot com>
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[18:21:41] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11617 esc fails with /usr/bin/cpp present -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com>
[18:30:34] <moridinn> oh nice, now I can restore /usr/bin/cpp
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[19:53:04] <KungFuJesus> tsoome: you seem to be the resident AD/LDAP expert here, why is gentent group <groupname> giving me a single user that is all of the users in the list concatenated together?
[19:53:20] <KungFuJesus> I'm using ldapclient manual here, but I _think_ what I have here is correct
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[19:57:30] <tsoome> ldaplist group ?
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[20:05:24] <KungFuJesus> ah one sec
[20:05:49] <KungFuJesus> err whoops, already grabbed that
[20:29:09] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11610 PCI ID ambiguity leads to driver induced mayhem -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com>
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[20:39:36] <Reinhilde> andyf: is crle always the wrong thing to use?
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[20:42:06] <rmustacc> In genearl, yes.
[20:42:11] <rmustacc> *general
[20:45:08] <LeftWing> Reinhilde: The challenge with crle is that it's a global configuration which then affects all programs. It also means your binaries won't work as-is on another system unless you use crle there too
[20:49:27] <Reinhilde> They won't work as-is on another system anyway unless you compile protobuf and install it to a path specified in crle.
[20:49:55] <Reinhilde> So I guess I am at no more disadvantage
[20:51:32] <rmustacc> Generally I use runpaths in binaries instead of modifying crle, but do what makes the most sense for you.
[20:52:27] <wilbury> i used crle quite extensively with some of "enterprise" software, heh
[20:52:40] <wilbury> for alternate libraries, binary-specific runpaths
[20:54:29] <jperkin> I think the point is that you don't need to use crle and affect every single binary on your system, you can just elfedit the one or two file that are affected and fix only those
[20:54:52] <LeftWing> Yeah, or use the -R flag when building to include an appropriate RUNPATH
[20:56:41] <rmustacc> You can even elfedit your way to success for someone else's binaries!
[20:57:57] <andyf> For mosh, you just need to do `LDFLAGS=-R/opt/local/lib/amd64 ./configure ...` or similar.
[20:57:59] <andyf> https://github.com/omniosorg/omnios-extra/pull/349/commits/1f04343d7f38c6f75da7447f9afe85a59a7f3146#diff-63201dca3be4299f061eba1c9fd5fcd2R34
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[21:00:35] <Reinhilde> So, should I not write a script to reparse linker args so that -L is always passed also as -R?
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[21:02:05] <richlowe> whether you can elfedit in a runpath depends on the ld you used.
[21:02:21] <richlowe> it's easy to forget that leaving space in sections people often like to edit is a thing we arranged for ourselves.
[21:02:53] <rmustacc> richlowe: Good point.
[21:04:26] <Reinhilde> I don't know what ld I used. I just know I used -an- ld.
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[22:03:03] <tsoome> am.. the linker set bits?:)
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[22:11:16] <rmustacc> tsoome: Was just waiting for the go ahead from you.
[22:11:28] <tsoome> ou
[22:11:36] <rmustacc> Sorry for the confusion there.
[22:11:47] <rmustacc> I'll do a final build and push it.
[22:12:01] <tsoome> I can push:)
[22:18:00] <rmustacc> Sure, that works too.
[22:19:08] <rmustacc> tsoome: I'll leave it to you.
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[22:20:33] <tsoome> I am waiting for approve mail:D
[22:20:45] <rmustacc> Huh, I replied to it I thought?
[22:21:01] <rmustacc> Let me go double check.
[22:22:05] <AmyMalik> But yeah, I'm doing everything the hard way.
[22:22:07] <tsoome> ahm, I see, there is “Yes, but..” :D
[22:23:20] <rmustacc> I'll send something clearer.
[22:25:40] <tsoome> thanks:)
[22:28:07] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10851 want sys/linker_set.h -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:28:08] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10852 libficl-sys: implement loader emulator commands with linker set -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:29:05] <AmyMalik> moridinn: so what, should I do everything the hard way or should I break every rule that my past has taught me to honor?
[22:29:29] <tsoome> thanks:)
[22:29:57] <AmyMalik> tsoome: is the surname pronounced like the first syllable of "sommelier" but with a longer O?
[22:30:24] <tsoome> yes
[22:31:07] <AmyMalik> typical finnic surnames
[22:31:14] <AmyMalik> not saying that's a bad thing
[22:31:48] <tsoome> I am sort of used to it:)
[22:32:00] <tsoome> with it*
[22:32:09] <AmyMalik> tsoome: "to it" was correct
[22:32:26] <tsoome> yea, i figured.
[22:32:43] <tsoome> I have long day behind tracking some stupid bugs
[22:36:40] <AmyMalik> yeah no I think I'll break every rule my past has taught me
[22:42:24] <richlowe> past you gives, and past you takes away.
[22:45:49] <AmyMalik> richlowe: ...
[22:48:12] <copec> Anyone have a stash of vbox* dtrace scripts (under macos)
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[22:52:01] <AmyMalik> richlowe: this is a reference to moridinn suggesting I use pkgsrc for an n+1th source of software that will be slightly less difficult than Doing It All By Hand™
[22:55:31] <jperkin> I'd hope we make it at least a little bit easier than doing everything manually
[22:59:57] <AmyMalik> the notes section on the man page crontab(1) reads like it was written by someone with a speech disorder or dyslexia.
[23:00:11] <AmyMalik> >the authorized user should first use su(1M) to become superuser to the other user's login before making any changes to the crontab file.
[23:01:09] <AmyMalik> is it not meant to be "the authorised user should first use su(1M) to change to the other user's login, or to become the superuser, before making any changes to the crontab file"?
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