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[00:11:17] <tsoome> I think there are no changes, but I can generate new git format-patch
[00:12:20] <rmustacc> OK, I wasn't sure. If you don't mind just mailing me them directly, I'd appreciate it.
[00:12:32] <tsoome> just an sec
[00:13:09] <tsoome> rebasing on fresh master for just in case
[00:14:20] <rmustacc> Thanks!
[00:14:47] <tsoome> mailed
[00:14:54] <tsoome> thanks:)
[00:19:21] <rmustacc> Cool, I got that. I'll kick off some builds.
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[00:58:33] <Reinhilde> hey guys
[01:11:21] <rmustacc> Hello
[01:12:07] <Reinhilde> sorry about the dramatic leave earlier
[01:12:28] <Reinhilde> rmustacc: i am sure this is completely offtopic and unsuitable for here but I'll ask anyway. How's your day been?
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[01:52:27] <rmustacc> It's been fine.
[01:53:11] <rmustacc> tsoome: Builds finished up cleanly at least.
[01:57:24] <tsoome> rmustacc: I think ficl-sys should be able to run with that libficl-sys even in old system, but also elfdump libficl-sys should show sh_name: set_Xcommand_set with sh_size: 0x4c
[01:58:05] <rmustacc> OK, let me give it a try.
[01:58:21] <rmustacc> We previously landed the linker support for linker sets right?
[01:59:05] <tsoome> the runtime linker should not matter since we do have section
[01:59:12] <rmustacc> Right.
[01:59:26] <rmustacc> I meant at build time.
[02:00:25] <rmustacc> tsoome: Yeah, that's there.
[02:01:33] <tsoome> yes build time needs set support and if the build host is old, the set can only be built with help of on tree ld
[02:01:47] <rmustacc> Right, and trust me, this host is a bit old. ;)
[02:02:19] <tsoome> :D
[02:04:21] <rmustacc> But that's there and is looking good.
[02:04:31] <rmustacc> I can push both of these then since they're already built and lined up.
[02:04:59] <rmustacc> Hans or Rich didn't look at the linker set (10851) change did they?
[02:07:22] <tsoome> Hans did for sure
[02:07:33] <tsoome> he did test with bhyve
[02:08:05] <rmustacc> OK, Gergő was the only reviewer on it, so I wasn't sure.
[02:08:48] <tsoome> Yep, he did flag so:)
[02:09:42] <tsoome> We can wait for Hans to tell if he is willing to get listed
[02:10:24] <rmustacc> Either way.
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[09:14:31] <sjorge> Wait so we now have propper dhcpv6 client support ? nice!
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[10:18:55] <rsmarples> sjorge: i thought the illumos dhcpclient could do v6?
[10:19:15] <rsmarples> dhcpcd does prefix delegation though, unsure if dhcpclient does that
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[11:08:55] <tsoome> Woodstock: ping:)
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[12:19:21] <jperkin> richlowe: dunno if you would be interested in this ld core, the gcc warning just above shows something in the build is clearly broken: http://us-east.manta.joyent.com/pkgsrc/public/reports/trunk/tools/20190905.0905/MesaLib-19.1.5nb2/build.log
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[12:47:04] <moridinn> looks like the messages I'm sending to developer@ list from "secondary" email (i.e. not "primary" in topicbox account settings) isn't getting through, who can help with that?
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[15:03:00] <andy_js> How long should I left changes stew before I submit an RTI?
[15:04:22] <moridinn> if you mean the smb fixes, I'd let Gordon look at those first
[15:14:38] <tsoome> he will as part of RTI anyhow, but the review process itself is kind of implying like 24h to allow people to notice and read, unless it is really trivial or urgent.
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[15:46:00] <LeftWing> andy_js: If you think gwr should take a look, you could ask him directly
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[16:43:36] <moridinn> let me ask again, the messages sent from non-"primary" email as shown in topicbox account settings are not delivered to the lists (developer, advocates); can anyone help me here?
[16:44:03] <andyf> moridinn, you probably should talk to Topicbox support... I have no problems emailing from either my primary or secondary address
[16:44:31] <moridinn> ok, so it's only me
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[16:46:51] <rmustacc> moridinn: I have it set up that way and it has worked for me.
[16:47:03] <rmustacc> I could double check how I have it set up if that's useful.
[16:49:43] <moridinn> it worked for me as well, but then I made another address primary to get rid of gmail's deduplication misfeature, and now it doesn't :)
[16:52:27] <rmustacc> Yeah, that's why I rigged up my primary and send from secondary so I don't have the dedup feature.
[16:52:43] <rmustacc> Topicbox support has been pretty responsive. During US hours, the chat bit has also been useful.
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[16:53:04] <rmustacc> So it's more likely solvable than if we were running our own (also who wants to deal with all the spam)
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[17:57:07] <Kurlon> I had forgotten HP Z200s were so old they don't do UEFI.
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[17:57:35] <Kurlon> Won't boot GPT volumes either.
[17:59:07] <tsoome> mbr + vtoc then
[17:59:28] <Kurlon> Yes, which means I need a different OI image to blow onto USB. :D
[17:59:39] <tsoome> ou
[17:59:56] <tsoome> it has no cd?
[18:00:16] <tsoome> you can try to store iso on usb
[18:00:24] <Kurlon> There is an ISO image, that's what I'm trying now.
[18:00:42] <tsoome> and that too is not ok?
[18:00:46] <Kurlon> Worst case I can throw chimera on there and fake UEFI but that seems wrong.
[18:00:57] <Kurlon> Dunno, my thumb stick is sloooooooooooooow and still writing.
[18:01:08] <tsoome> ah, i see
[18:01:57] <tsoome> you can create your own usb with MBR+VTOC too - it is not that complicated.
[18:03:47] <Kurlon> Bah, didn't like that either.
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[18:56:01] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11603 smbadm has wrong exit code while listing SMB group properties -- Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov at nexenta dot com>
[19:03:23] <andy_js> tsoome: Are you still happy with this? https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2281/
[19:04:27] <tsoome> yep.:)
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[19:23:26] <moridinn> what's with sender addresses being "developer at lists dot illumos.org" on the lists? is it done intentionally (why then)?
[19:24:27] <rmustacc> I'm not sure exactly. I imagine it is being done intentionally. Probably DKIM or DMARC related would be my guess?
[19:24:49] <moridinn> got it.
[19:25:05] <rmustacc> Many mail providers say it's illegal for mail to come from their domain if it doesn't use their MX servers.
[19:25:14] <rmustacc> But I'm not certain if that's the case here or not.
[19:26:02] <Reinhilde> Illegal it can't be. Banned by SPF it absolutely can be.
[19:27:21] <rmustacc> Sorry, was using illegal colloquially. Not in an absolute legal sense.
[19:30:44] <danmcd> tsoome: I'm going to have to delay further review on 11634 until later today or maybe even tomorrow. Pardon the delay.
[19:30:58] <tsoome> no problem and thanks:)
[19:31:37] <tsoome> for some reason I have been having fun with building freebsd loader against teken:)
[19:32:13] <tsoome> they found out illumos loader can draw on screen:)
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[19:43:04] <Kurlon> Today on doing things the wrong way... clover bootloader stick booting a fake UEFI env to touch off the UEFI bootloader on an OI stick. :D
[19:43:33] <moridinn> anyone knows what's up with Del key in vim on openindiana? it behaves exactly as in that joke about vim beeping and breaking things
[19:44:53] <moridinn> (same .vimrc seems to don't have the problem anywhere else)
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[19:45:17] <rmustacc> moridinn: Do you know what key DEL is sending?
[19:45:34] <rmustacc> I guess the TERM may also matter here.
[19:45:51] <moridinn> "^[[3~" as shown in vim
[19:45:51] <tsoome> which terminal is it?
[19:46:18] <moridinn> it's putty, and tmux setting a TERM of "screen"
[19:46:41] <tsoome> ok, and in putty?
[19:47:01] <tsoome> I mean,the putty itself can be configured like vt100, vt220
[19:47:09] <tsoome> usually xterm?
[19:47:55] <moridinn> so no matter what TERM is set to (screen, xterm), and if I'm in tmux or just plain terminal, it's the same
[19:48:14] <moridinn> has to be something OI specific?
[19:48:48] <rmustacc> Not sure I know enough to claim that.
[19:49:01] <rmustacc> Probably, but until we root cause it, hard to say for certain.
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[19:49:52] <moridinn> yep, just thought someone seeing the same and fixed it :)
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[19:50:15] <moridinn> or rather was hoping
[19:52:19] <tsoome> the putty is interpreting it, but your screen may also interfere
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[19:54:35] <tsoome> so one test would leave screen out of it
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[19:56:30] <moridinn> yes, I mentioned that I tried that :) still the same
[19:57:16] <tsoome> but see /etc/vimrc
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[19:58:35] <moridinn> grrr, thank you, it was the "fixdel", should it be moved under the sun-color check?
[19:58:56] <moridinn> otherwise it's "breakdel" for me
[20:01:27] <tsoome> um, it may be needed to move, yes.
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[22:19:45] <richlowe> LeftWing: did you want me to try code.?
[22:19:50] <richlowe> LeftWing: if so, what did you want me to say when I did?
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[22:35:59] <LeftWing> richlowe: I've brought the internal copy of illumos-gate up-to-date with master
[22:36:03] <LeftWing> Give it a shot I guess?
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[23:19:34] <moridinn> that code.illumos.org thing looks fancy
[23:20:12] <moridinn> does it use the same credentials as redmine?
[23:20:40] <Reinhilde> I want to run illumos somewhere but I don't have anywhere to run it
[23:20:42] <moridinn> oh right, I should read the mail to the end
[23:20:51] <Reinhilde> the most exotic OS my computer is fully compatible with is hardenedbsd
[23:22:22] <LeftWing> moridinn: Yes, it works with the redmine creds.
[23:22:33] <LeftWing> It's still a beta service but you're welcome to look around
[23:23:11] <Reinhilde> I should probably buy another VPS if I can afford to, seeing as though I want somewhere to run illumos
[23:24:00] <rmustacc> Reinhilde: Can you run an HVM on your system?
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[23:25:00] <Reinhilde> I barely have enough free RAM to open the flightgear flight simulator. Don't expect me to be running VMs on this
[23:30:00] <rmustacc> OK.
[23:31:10] <Reinhilde> besides, ZFS on freebsd is quite memory hungry, whereas I am fairly certain it's far more integrated into SunOS derivatives like illumos
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