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[09:22:22] <kayront> https://github.com/rahra/onioncat/issues/23 <-- any suggestions how to make it work?
[09:22:40] <kayront> the getpwnam_r one specificallty
[09:22:49] <kayront> I found this https://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2014-07/0170.html but adding it did not fix the error
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[09:30:39] <yuripv> you need to define _POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS
[09:30:54] <yuripv> oh, that's in the link
[09:31:57] <kayront> indeed
[09:32:17] <yuripv> kayront: did you do exactly the same as in the link, i.e. check on __sun? if yes, does your compiler define it?
[09:32:25] <kayront> I did this:
[09:32:26] <kayront> #ifdef __sun
[09:32:27] <kayront> #define _POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS
[09:32:27] <kayront> #define _POSIX_C_SOURCE 199506L
[09:32:27] <kayront> #endif
[09:32:34] <kayront> (tried without the c source one too)
[09:32:57] <kayront> and yup:
[09:32:58] <kayront> $ touch foo.h; cpp -dM foo.h|grep -i sun
[09:32:58] <kayront> #define __sun 1
[09:32:58] <kayront> #define sun 1
[09:32:58] <kayront> #define __sun__ 1
[09:33:29] <kayront> but I did it right before the problematic line, maybe it better go to the top ? C is not my forte..
[09:33:53] <yuripv> you need it before the include
[09:35:42] <kayront> oh yeah, that works
[09:35:44] <kayront> duh :)
[09:35:48] <kayront> well, moving on
[09:35:51] <kayront> thanks
[09:36:18] <kayront> i'm getting the feeling this will be next to impossible to easily port though, i already see more daunting errors
[09:36:22] <kayront> but a couple are easy to fix
[09:37:44] <yuripv> and it doesn't seem to be ported in pkgsrc
[09:39:44] <kayront> what's the easiest way to find out where a constant was defined?
[09:39:53] <kayront> other than find/grep
[09:40:18] <yuripv> src.illumos.org :)
[09:40:44] <kayront> :D
[09:42:27] <kayront> ok this one should be simple, I changed ETHER_ADDR_LEN to ETHERADDRLEN in a file and then got to the previous error, now it's erroring out the same way on another file
[09:42:43] <kayront> can I say with #ifdef that if this is solaris, replace ETHER_ADDR_LEN with ETHERADDRLEN everywhere?
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[09:47:11] <yuripv> I guess you could pass it as -DETHER_ADDR_LEN=ETHERADDRLEN in configure's CPPFLAGS
[09:48:11] <yuripv> or you should modify the configure itself to get the correct define for that
[09:48:21] <jimklimov1> ryaeng: I think it would be proper to depend on standards applicable to the current OS, preferably implemented in some central library (libc?) routine to allow or forbid certain strings
[09:49:57] <jimklimov1> as for "@" in particular, which is a separator for email... and "!" for uucp... and maybe others in similar peril... I think it makes sense to not accept these as part of a real username (which per that netgroups excourse, may be different conceptually from "part of a passwd database entry")
[09:51:17] <jimklimov1> to me, proper usernames are somewhat similar to proper DNS names - e.g. asciinumeric, with maybe a few select chars on top
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[09:53:14] <jimklimov> and like international DNS, some standard might eventually conjure some shim on top of that (like the internally "xn--..." domain names) which technically would still be an asciinumeric typable anywhere
[09:54:51] <kayront> is there any nice way in illumos to get the header from bsd top in a nice and concise way?
[09:55:01] <kayront> prstat does other things better but that's not one of them (imo)
[10:00:50] * yuripv has a "top" on illumos system
[10:01:41] <ptribble> just use top?
[10:03:33] <kayront> oh, it's on pkgsrc
[10:03:35] <kayront> :D
[10:04:24] <yuripv> the header differs between systems though, e.g. in freebsd there's also arc information added if you are running zfs
[10:04:45] <ptribble> I thought OI did that too
[10:05:13] <Agnar> yes, it does show ARC in top on OI
[10:05:27] <kayront> that's cool
[10:05:29] <yuripv> oh, we have top with some solaris patches, not sure where those came from, but it doesn't have arc stats
[10:05:38] <yuripv> so it differs even between illumos distros :)
[10:06:39] <kayront> anyone got pkgbuild on smartos working?
[10:06:55] <yuripv> (too bad illumos-userland was DOA)
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[10:09:45] <tsoome> top patches in OI https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hipster/components/sysutils/top/patches
[10:16:29] <yuripv> given that top upstream seems to be dead, we could have the top in the gate now
[10:16:39] <yuripv> same as FreeBSD did
[10:16:57] <tsoome> that would be good idea IMO.
[10:27:14] <yuripv> we could make a deal: illumos-gate gets top from OI, and OI can have all the java apis they want
[10:27:26] <yuripv> no return, no refund, though
[10:28:07] <tsoome> ja apis?:)
[10:28:11] <tsoome> java*
[10:28:24] <yuripv> or bindings, whatever that cruft is
[10:29:55] <ptribble> *ahem* printmgr
[10:30:09] <tsoome> why do not we nuke it?
[10:30:14] <yuripv> you already made the deal better, ditching the one from mdns, and they can take the rest
[10:30:22] <tsoome> (along with ancient lp)
[10:30:54] <tsoome> anyone needing lp, would use cups anyhow…
[10:31:01] <yuripv> everyone loves the heat from spending cpu cycles on building it
[10:31:19] <yuripv> the winter is coming, as you said
[10:32:21] <kayront> i thought winter already came, some silly little girl destroyed the baddest meanest dead-or-alive mofo ever, and then good queen torches everything because why not
[10:32:24] <kayront> or was it a dream
[10:32:25] <kayront> hmm
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[10:35:15] <yuripv> :)
[10:35:48] <yuripv> well, I just don't have better answer
[10:36:09] <yuripv> it would require an IPD now for that kind of change?
[10:36:35] <tsoome> I think it would be good to have
[10:36:44] <tsoome> to collect pros and cons
[10:37:04] <tsoome> otherwise it is just another dead discussion and noone remembers why…
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[10:44:14] <kayront> the north remembers
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[11:01:12] <jlevon> tsoome: the illumos-joyent null.h changes are in now. sorry for the wait.
[11:01:32] <tsoome> cool:)
[11:01:46] <jimklimov> how many thousands left to go? :)
[11:01:59] <jimklimov> on the order of magnitude? :)
[11:02:23] <tsoome> actually, the only ones to go are in SPARC specific code.
[11:02:45] <tsoome> there are some, but not too many.
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[16:00:48] <Kurlon> I'm assuming the small Optane sticks (16GB/32GB) are not considered safe slogs due to no batt backup, yes?
[16:04:07] <rmustacc> I'd be a bit surprised if they aren't power safe.
[16:04:57] <rmustacc> But check the datasheet to confirm.
[16:05:13] <rmustacc> A non-power safe device will always be a bad SLOG.
[16:05:24] <rmustacc> However, to be power-safe you don't need a battery.
[16:08:36] <Kurlon> Looks like the P4801X is a viable candidate, Optane tech, 100GB, $255, and it does have 'enhanced power loss data protection' unlike the consumer units.
[16:09:55] <rmustacc> I'll try to circle back on your bnx questions later today/tomorrow. I need to reread that code to remember it all.
[16:14:33] <Kurlon> Intel is also launching a new line of the baby Optane sticks, M15 instead of M10, and the M15s are listed as having enhanced power loss data protection as well unlike the M10s.
[16:15:42] <rmustacc> Ah, ok. I haven't really followed the consumer line.
[16:15:50] <Kurlon> 64GB for $150, not quite half the read latency of the P4801X @ 100GB, 225k random write IOPS like the dc version, seems like a viable option.
[16:16:29] <Kurlon> Ah, and there is the difference, 365TB vs 10.9PB for endurance ratings.
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[16:17:35] <tsoome> eh, “11553 Want pluggable TCP congestion control algorithms” did add new NULL pointer issue...
[16:18:08] <rmustacc> jlevon: Do you have a fix for that you can send up?
[16:19:23] <jlevon> https://cr.joyent.us/#/c/6816/6/usr/src/uts/common/inet/tcp/tcp_timers.c
[16:19:25] <jlevon> I guess?
[16:21:26] <tsoome> yes the same
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[16:32:47] <andyf> tsoome 11634! :D
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[16:48:23] <andyf> I'll give it a spin on OmniOS
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[16:58:44] <igork> hi all, QLE-2700 - does someone tested FC16/32Gbit on this model ?
[16:59:00] <igork> based on illumos
[16:59:27] <igork> also, i'm interested in FC 32gbit what tested with illumos
[17:00:00] <igork> fc card model and fc switch model
[17:03:52] <wilbury> i'd be courious, too
[17:04:06] <andyf> I know a couple of OmniOS users use one of those cards
[17:04:27] <igork> maybe you have list of models?
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[17:05:54] <wilbury> my wild guess is that qlogic and emulex should work.
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[17:07:46] <andyf> wilbury, the newer ones don't work with the driver in illumos-gate
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[17:09:30] <andyf> I know of people using Emulex Gen6 cards...
[17:09:30] <wilbury> andyf: good to know. last time i used FC actively was in 2016 and with 8Gbps cards.
[17:09:41] <andyf> igork, I have some PCI IDs and output from prtconf but not models
[17:10:16] <igork> andyf: pci id will be fine too
[17:10:46] <igork> + output prtconf too
[17:11:11] <wilbury> prtconf, prtpicl would help
[17:11:13] <igork> my last experience with FC was based on 4gbit
[17:12:05] <wilbury> i used FC since late '90s
[17:12:20] <wilbury> now we are on 10Gig, 40Gig NFS and iSCSI
[17:12:25] <andyf> pci1077,249 (pciex1077,2031) (Qlogic)
[17:12:26] <wilbury> (and SAS)
[17:12:29] <andyf> pci10df,e333 (pciex10df,e300) (Emulex)
[17:12:36] <andyf> both of those need updated drivers though - OmniOS has them
[17:12:38] <igork> 32gbit?
[17:13:38] <andyf> I'm not sure
[17:14:33] <wilbury> pci id 2013 is ql2600
[17:18:45] <igork> Qlogic QLE2764-SR-CK
[17:18:48] <igork> interest one
[17:19:07] <igork> Qlogic QLE2764-SR-CK 32Gb Quad Port FC HBA, PCIe Gen3 x16, SR LC multi-mode
[17:20:08] <andyf> ah, I wonder if the 2700 drivers were never merged. I know some work was done on them (they are quite similar to 2600)
[17:20:33] <andyf> https://github.com/omniosorg/illumos-omnios/pull/306/files
[17:20:56] <andyf> that came from Nexenta and seems to include 2700 bits
[17:21:20] <andyf> but it looks like I was wrong, I don't know anyone who has tried one of those cards
[17:23:11] <igork> andyf thanks for update!
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[18:36:16] <LeftWing> 11634 sounds exciting!
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[19:46:22] <gwr> Joyent folks are unusually quiet. I'm worried...
[19:48:04] <rmustacc> Hmm?
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[19:51:33] <tsoome> hrm...
[19:51:38] <tsoome> /code/illumos-gate/usr/src/cmd/fm/eversholt/esc/i386/esc -D_ESC -I/code/illumos-
[19:51:38] <tsoome> gate/proto/root_i386/usr/include -o amd64.eft amd64.esc
[19:51:40] <tsoome> cpp: error: unrecognized command line option '-Y.'
[19:51:40] <tsoome> esc: fatal error: cpp errors while reading "amd64.esc", bailing out.
[19:51:43] <tsoome> anyone seen those?
[19:52:00] <rmustacc> tsoome: Sounds like the thing I just fixed here the other day.
[19:52:03] <rmustacc> Just getting it ready for RTI
[19:52:55] <rmustacc> tsoome: https://www.illumos.org/issues/11617 and https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2261/.
[19:52:59] <tsoome> ok, I had build+install+boot on my build host and now next nightly was spewing those
[19:53:11] <rmustacc> tsoome: Did you recently get a /usr/bin/cpp?
[19:56:34] <tsoome> seem so: /bin/cpp -> ../gcc/6/bin/cpp
[19:56:53] <rmustacc> OK. Yeah. I'll get that in shortly.
[19:57:12] <rmustacc> I suspect that's what Aurelien hit.
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[20:37:19] <tsoome> indeed, it certainly does look like it.
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[21:53:22] <jlevon> tsoome: are you going to pick up that null fix? I don't have a null-y workspace right now
[21:56:45] <tsoome> I can, yes, I have it in my tree anyhow
[21:56:58] <jlevon> thanks.
[21:57:11] <tsoome> np:)
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[21:59:41] <yuripv> I vaguely remember we already had an esc/cpp bug filed long time ago
[22:00:31] <yuripv> (or was it just the discussion on the list)
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[22:21:27] <igork> yuripv: i have found and fixed it a long time ago : https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/a258eae555387ea68b73434b8619e6d16f2f6fc8
[22:21:40] <igork> i do not remember if i said about it somewhere
[22:22:58] <igork> it was issue if you try put cpp from gcc build to /usr/bin/cpp
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[22:33:57] <yuripv> igork: ok, so I'm likely remembering your messages
[22:43:23] <yuripv> no, there we have this: https://www.illumos.org/issues/6219
[22:48:11] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11576 Want support for ahci LED entries in topo -- Jordan Paige Hendricks <jordan.hendricks at joyent dot com>
[22:48:13] <richlowe> close it duplicate of Robert's, I suppose
[22:49:54] <yuripv> yep, done
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[22:52:31] <rmustacc> Sorry, missed the existing one.
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[23:12:51] <richlowe> jlevon: do you remember why we didn't end up doing the buildversion thing when we lost SCCS keywords?
[23:12:55] <richlowe> jlevon: I know we talked about it.
[23:13:13] <richlowe> some unfortunate bullshit like people building opensolaris from the tarballs?
[23:13:55] <richlowe> alanc: perhaps you, also?
[23:18:13] <alanc> you mean generating mcs/what version strings from hg? I think because we wanted to reduce churn in IPS/wsdiff
[23:22:46] <alanc> or do those ignore the ELF comments? I forget
[23:23:37] <richlowe> they should.
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[23:24:17] <richlowe> and John just sticks (various) entire git hashes into one module of their own.
[23:24:55] <alanc> I think there was also the assumption that IPS version info was all we needed, and that everyone would use IPS - who would be silly enough to make a distro using anything but IPS?
[23:25:14] <ptribble> Ha!
[23:25:31] <LeftWing> lol
[23:25:36] <jbk> and of course, if you have questions, they won't be answered, but rest assured it'll be all nice and peachy :P
[23:25:50] <LeftWing> Being able to do "gitstatus/s" in mdb -k has been pretty good for us
[23:26:12] <jlevon> richlowe: I wasn't involved in that discussion...
[23:26:12] <jbk> (wasn't that the standard reply when IPS was being developed? :P)
[23:26:45] <LeftWing> I have some limited sympathy for the IPS folks. There were a _lot_ of whacky SVR4 fundamentalist positions being thrown around, as I recall.
[23:27:43] <LeftWing> Also my sympathy has only increased the more open source stewardship I've been involved in :P
[23:27:50] <jbk> heh heh
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[23:31:25] <richlowe> jlevon: you'd have been in the right IRC channel and mailing list! and maybe had a better memory than me :)
[23:31:58] <jlevon> I guess I should say I didn't actively participate on that topic :)
[23:33:28] <LeftWing> ha
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[23:46:42] <alanc> for kernel version info, we don't bake it into the binary, but ship files in /etc/versions instead
[23:48:31] <richlowe> doesn't end up in dumps then (unless the kernel then reads them?)
[23:48:37] <alanc> it does
[23:49:54] <alanc> since that's also where we get the uname -v string from now
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[23:52:31] <richlowe> wow, jlevon being slack, huh? :)
[23:53:25] <LeftWing> In jlevon's defence I was the slack one who made the original module here :P
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[23:54:36] <LeftWing> Reading /etc/versions and stashing it is pretty cool
[23:54:58] <LeftWing> I guess it would go in the boot archive and such
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