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[01:06:38] <Cthulhux`> looks like all network traffic
[01:06:50] <Cthulhux`> that happens once a month, ca.
[01:07:19] <Cthulhux`> just ran pkg update and rebooted. waiting what happens..
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[01:56:35] <ryaeng> https://www.illumos.org/issues/6130
[01:57:31] <ryaeng> The code currently prints a warning but proceeds with the creation of the accounts. Is this correct? How should this be handled?
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[04:02:48] <LeftWing> That's a good question, to be honest. It'd probably help to look at what limits and structure other systems enforce
[04:12:34] <rmustacc> Certainly I had a friend in the past who had a numeric username of '23'.
[04:12:41] <rmustacc> It did throw certain systems off.
[04:12:44] <rmustacc> But it was legal.
[04:12:52] <rmustacc> Even if useradd or the equivalent didn't let it happen.
[04:20:18] <rmustacc> Just to clarify, that was that they had the username that was a string '2' '3'.
[04:20:41] <rmustacc> A number of programs try to look at things and see if it's a uid/gid by checking if the string given to them was a number.
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[04:39:10] <LeftWing> I definitely recommend not doing that if your goal is for the computer to work :P
[04:42:31] <rmustacc> It worked more than you'd expect.
[04:48:56] <ryaeng> LeftWing: I'll poke around on a few other systems to see how they behave.
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[10:04:28] <jimklimov> Hi all, does anyone here run an illumos distro as a guest in VirtualBox on Windows host? While it all works well for me in a general desktop setting (OI as a guest), I have a problem connecting an external disk (tried USB HDD, SD card with built-in reader over USB I guess); not sure if that would be permissions (or antiviruses) on the host, or some issue with drivers in illumos
[10:05:01] <jimklimov> Has anyone else here got "anecdotal" experience around this?
[10:05:30] <jimklimov> In my case, the device is just not seen, via "dmesg", "devfsadm -Cv", or "format -e"
[10:06:05] <jimklimov> I tried both USB pass-through (usb2, usb3), and VMDK passthrough of whole disks and partitions
[10:06:50] <jimklimov> at best, once with a SAS (IIRC) controller the VMDK was seen, even repartitioned the drive to Solaris2 + GPT, but then failed to create a zpool
[10:07:04] <jimklimov> claiming lots of recovered ahci errors
[10:07:51] <jimklimov> in other cases there were sometimes logged issues connecting an xhci device when I booted the OI VM, not sure if it was seeing this disk or not however
[10:08:38] <jimklimov> some internet lore suggested permissions issues; the best I could find for Windows hosting was to Run as Administrator... which did not help (nor hurt)
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[13:37:37] <jollyd> _i4k_: regarding package installation, if you have bash completions installed then pkg install should be able to find possible completions to package names. (it should take a few seconds though since the name matching rule is slow)
[13:37:46] <jollyd> narval> pkg install gcc
[13:37:46] <jollyd> gcc gcc-4-runtime gcc-49 gcc-6 gcc-7-runtime gcc-9
[13:37:46] <jollyd> gcc-3 gcc-47 gcc-5 gcc-6-runtime gcc-8 gcc-9-runtime
[13:37:46] <jollyd> gcc-3-runtime gcc-48 gcc-5-runtime gcc-7 gcc-8-runtime
[13:38:07] <jollyd> for example
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[15:22:00] <kayront> what do you all use on illumos like systat -ifstat 5 in freebsd?
[15:22:29] <kayront> (if you're not familiar with the cmd, just something nice clear and concise to get an idea of how much traffic is flowing)
[15:23:26] <igork> nicstat
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[15:25:36] <tsoome> dlstat -i 5
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[15:46:27] <kayront> tsoome: seems to not work from zones (does nothing)
[15:46:53] <tsoome> ah.
[15:46:54] <kayront> nicstat is alright but not as sexy. any other options? iirc dladm had some similar mode but could not locate it from the manpage
[15:46:59] <kayront> maybe mixing it up with dlstat ..
[15:47:23] <Agnar_> kayront: dlstat works, but only if your zone is ip-type=exclusive
[15:47:41] <kayront> dladm show-link -si 5, that's it
[15:47:44] <kayront> but also not very sexy
[15:47:45] <kayront> damn it :p
[15:47:54] <kayront> i wanted something a little more visual
[15:48:11] <Agnar_> root@nexus:~# dlstat -i 1 nexusext0
[15:48:11] <Agnar_> LINK IPKTS RBYTES OPKTS OBYTES
[15:48:11] <Agnar_> nexusext0 4.00K 281.56K 312 13.21K
[15:49:44] <kayront> interesting to know Agnar_
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[15:50:14] <kayront> while we're on this topic, what other system monitoring tools do you regularly use? console stuff, I mean
[15:50:18] <kayront> mpstat, prstat ..
[15:50:24] <Agnar> root@nexus:~# netstat -I nexusext0 1 input nexuse output input (Total) output
[15:50:27] <Agnar> packets errs packets errs colls packets errs packets errs colls
[15:50:29] <Agnar> 2008 0 108 0 0 3443 0 376 0 0
[15:50:29] <Agnar> (for netstat)
[15:50:32] <Agnar> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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[16:36:23] <Kurlon> rmustacc: I'm not getting anything from the dtrace script you suggested. Dtrace starts, says it matches 476 probes and then, nothing despite me adding-removing-modifying-destroying aggrs.
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[19:08:21] <tsoome> jlevon: ping
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[19:09:08] <Kurlon> So, I'm far from a dtrace veteran, but it seems that aggr_port_addmac is not getting called at all. To test I can see aggr_grp_attch_port getting called in comparison.
[19:10:20] <tsoome> Kurlon: you can check its call path to see why it is not called:)
[19:10:35] <Kurlon> I'm slowly winding my way backwards now. :D
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[19:15:51] <igork> i see problems with external 4 ports i40e adapters: very long time on boot with aggr configured - about 30-45min.
[19:15:51] <igork> if i try configure aggr with 2 links - it has about 18min on command:
[19:15:51] <igork> dladm create-aggr -P L2,L3 -L passive -l i40e0 -l i40e1 1
[19:15:51] <igork> when i try to add additional 2 links by dladm-add - it has 23min
[19:16:52] <rmustacc> Where is your time being spent?
[19:16:59] <igork> how to try identify - what it try to do with dladm create-aggr - where we spend a lot it time?
[19:17:16] <rmustacc> Well, start using DTrace and breaing it down into components.
[19:18:05] <rmustacc> There are some basic questions to ask like is it waiting on CPU, is it blocked for some resource, etc.
[19:18:20] <rmustacc> There's no simple answer, just have to start characterizing it. Since it's reproducible, should be straightforward, even if time consuming.
[19:18:36] <igork> rmustacc: if you can, could you provide example of dtrace
[19:19:14] <rmustacc> I don't have an easy example. But I'd probalby just do something like using mdb or something to just see what it's doing and constructing the stacks.
[19:19:27] <rmustacc> The important thing to characterize is where are you spending your time.
[19:19:38] <rmustacc> I don't have a simple, canned example.
[19:19:43] <rmustacc> Just gotta tackle it, sorry.
[19:19:48] <igork> yes, it is reproducible on dual xeon supermicro server with 256GB ECC RAM + 2 cards (4 ports i40e) with mellanox
[19:20:21] <igork> connected to mellanox switches
[19:21:19] <rmustacc> I would start by looking at the stacks for the aggr and i40e modules and see where they are over time.
[19:21:37] <igork> ok, thanks, i'll try investigate it
[19:23:14] <igork> additional info: i40e has the same issue - long time for dladm create-vnic on single i40e0 - just for example. aggr has additional time on create command, but create-vnic a faster, when on single nic
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[19:23:51] <igork> i mean - craete-vnic over aggr is faster
[19:25:05] <rmustacc> Well, they're probalby doing different things under the hood.
[19:25:14] <igork> ok
[19:25:26] <rmustacc> At some point the mc_start(9E) entry point is going to be called on the device.
[19:25:31] <rmustacc> But once it's started, it'll be startd.
[19:25:34] <rmustacc> \*started
[19:25:56] <rmustacc> I don't know why it takes a long time for you, which is why I'm suggesting you measure it.
[19:26:10] <rmustacc> You'll find different things take you down different paths depending on the rest of the state of the system.
[19:26:19] <igork> yes, i understand, thanks for ideas
[19:27:02] <Kurlon> igork, I'm currently chasing aggr as well, I'm slowly putting together the call tree required to create an aggr and bind ports to it, once I've got something mapped I'll share?
[19:27:47] <igork> Kurlon: i have no problems with aggr based on ixgbe (10G) and igb(1g) and e1000(1g)
[19:27:59] <igork> i think, i have another problem when you
[19:29:17] <Kurlon> I'd wager you're right, but if I have the calls mapped out, you can use them to try and see where your setup is spinning it's wheels?
[19:29:18] <igork> we using a lot of aggr base on 2x ixgbe(10g) = 10+10 - 10+10 - with mellanox switches in MLAG(100G)
[19:31:08] <igork> right now i can see issues with i40e - 2 adapters(4 ports 10g) in one box and try investigate it. i tried to test it with smartos - it has the same issue what i can see on dilos and try investigate it. just FYI full story
[19:33:07] <tsoome> yarr. https://paste.ec/paste/ia71A1kb#rMfcpHqTQ3xGPaDxO-UF90la9++HIUd+IHWGTU9Zm5Z
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[19:36:59] <rmustacc> tsoome: Nice.
[19:37:08] <rmustacc> Looks like it's doing both the EFI partition and the MBR?
[19:37:16] <tsoome> yes
[19:37:54] <rmustacc> Sweet.
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[19:39:03] <tsoome> I still have a lot of cleanup to do, but basic functions are done - install, mirror and inquiry.
[19:40:03] <tsoome> + bugs to be nuked
[19:42:58] <rmustacc> That sets up an ESP so if in the future we wanted to install a firmware capsule, we could leverage some of this as well?
[19:43:02] <rmustacc> (I realize that's thinking far ahead)
[19:44:31] <tsoome> installboot is called automatically by libbe, when we cativate BE, also by zpool mirror attach etc. basically we will have ESP prepared for us.
[19:46:12] <rmustacc> Cool.
[19:52:16] <Kurlon> Can I get dtrace to spit out all calls generated by the dladm command as a faster means of building my call tree?
[19:53:03] <tsoome> yes
[19:54:16] <tsoome> you can filter by pid
[19:54:22] <Kurlon> And just found the basics of how to do it... wish me luck, I'm diving in! :D
[19:54:39] <tsoome> see also http://dtrace.org/blogs/brendan/2011/02/09/dtrace-pid-provider/
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[20:26:00] <Kurlon> So, that's a quick way to get information overload.
[20:26:34] <rmustacc> Kurlon: What's the question you have right now?
[20:26:48] <rmustacc> Just I might be able to help you speed up with a more refined query.
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[20:47:39] <psarria> is it possible promisc-filtered linkprop in dladm doesn't work as expected in bhyve vnics ?
[20:48:40] <rmustacc> IIRC there was something between it and viona that was a little off, but I don't recall exactly what it was.
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[20:51:14] <Kurlon> I'm just trying to map out what's going on when making an aggr with bnx nics as my previous assumptions were wrong given the calls I expected are not made.
[20:51:40] <rmustacc> So I'd probably do it mostly from the kernel side, fwiw.
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[21:36:32] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11590 unused variables in pcie -- Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail dot com>
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[22:13:41] <Kurlon> Ok, so I see aggr_add_pseudo_rx_group being called, this is what should be calling aggr_port_addmac if I'm reading it correctly, but I'm not seeing that call made. I don't see it called under r151028 either so I must be misreading something in aggr_grp.c?
[22:14:52] <Kurlon> https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/3ee4fc2aa6b5136515cc3eed32d3c6ef33e37471/usr/src/uts/common/io/aggr/aggr_grp.c#L719
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[23:02:04] <yuripv> LeftWing: are you working on vioscsi, by chance?
[23:02:19] <LeftWing> Why yes!
[23:03:17] <yuripv> interesting, Rick has it implemented and I wanted to upstream it, but I vaguely remembered you did work on it as well, wonder where that gets us, having 2 different implementations
[23:03:34] <rmustacc> I believe the two have been talking.
[23:03:53] <yuripv> yep, but Rick decided not to wait on virtio changes, it seems
[23:04:19] <yuripv> LeftWing: how complete is your work?
[23:05:17] <rmustacc> yuripv: Was it already updated for the new virtio framework?
[23:05:44] <yuripv> no, I'm asking as I'm going to merge that change just now
[23:06:23] <rmustacc> It ended up being another SCSAv2 thing ignoring all the v3 stuff right?
[23:06:52] <yuripv> yes, it looks like
[23:07:24] <rmustacc> Oh well.
[23:07:31] <yuripv> :)
[23:08:15] <yuripv> btw, you are using vioscsi with bhyve?
[23:08:30] <rmustacc> Not at Joyent, No.
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[23:08:50] <yuripv> what's your target then? just want to make sure I get the testing right
[23:09:04] <rmustacc> I don't think it has it.
[23:09:10] <rmustacc> A vioscsi emulation.
[23:09:28] <rmustacc> I don't want to put words in LeftWing's mouth, but I believe he was doing it to improve guest support in GCE, etc.
[23:09:41] <yuripv> GCP, right?
[23:09:43] <rmustacc> Which came up as part of helping out golang, etc.
[23:09:59] <rmustacc> Whichever the right abbreviation is there.
[23:10:10] <yuripv> got it, thanks
[23:10:38] <rmustacc> I'd follow up with him, but I suspect having the SCSAv3 bits and tied to the new framework so we can have transprent indirect/direct buffers will be more maintainable long term.
[23:11:08] <rmustacc> As the direct/indirect descriptor thing was already biting illumos in a lot of cases.
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[23:16:43] <LeftWing> yuripv: So mine is already SCSAv3 and using the new framework
[23:16:54] <LeftWing> There's a little polish to do but it already works in GCE
[23:17:34] <LeftWing> I've taken a minute to try and get the zpool device scan at boot thing integrated first, but I anticipate vioscsi being done shortly after that
[23:18:06] <LeftWing> I can point you at the code if you want!
[23:18:32] <LeftWing> I also have DHCP bits about 80% done for GCE too
[23:18:49] <LeftWing> You need them for the weird routes they set up, as well as the oddball MTU
[23:21:07] <yuripv> LeftWing: yes, please
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[23:27:21] <LeftWing> yuripv: https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-gate/tree/virtio-rework/usr/src/uts/common/io/vioscsi
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[23:29:17] <yuripv> thank you; what's your take on estimated time to get vioscsi in?
[23:30:15] <LeftWing> I'd like to have it in by the end of September
[23:30:41] <yuripv> sounds good
[23:30:59] <LeftWing> Working on a ZFS test suite run for 10622 at the moment
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[23:31:39] <LeftWing> Then finishing up 7119, and then presumably vioscsi!
[23:32:07] <yuripv> cool, just trying to decide what to do with what we have at the moment
[23:32:08] <LeftWing> yuripv: Do any of your systems boot from iSCSI?
[23:32:15] <yuripv> no.
[23:32:22] <LeftWing> Alright.
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