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[04:04:02] <ManuelSantana> so, I've downloaded the hipster iso 20190511 gui but it doesnt load in gui mode, just keeps asking for a maintenance account
[04:04:23] <ManuelSantana> it's openindiana
[04:04:31] <ManuelSantana> any help?
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[04:31:38] <richlowe> My only guess is the image didn't write well.
[04:32:07] <richlowe> If all else fails, I know the "minimal" installer of that vintage is good, I used it earlier in the week.
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[12:11:57] <wacki> ManuelSantana: You'd better ask OpenIndiana specific questions on either #oi-dev or #openindiana. It would also be better if you can provide some basic information about your configuration.
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[15:56:34] <_i4k_> Hi folks
[15:58:44] <_i4k_> Is there any easy way to test illumos/openindiana using vagrant or just virtualbox? Is there vm images to download or the right track is just download the iso/usb disks and install it myself?
[16:16:25] <tsoome> _i4k_: https://virtualboxes.org/images/opensolaris/
[16:17:03] <tsoome> _i4k_: but I’d just grab the iso and install it:D
[16:19:01] <_i4k_> tsoome: thank you!
[16:19:36] <_i4k_> I’ll try the the virtualbox VM first =)
[16:20:39] <_i4k_> I’m interested on learning more about solaris, but right know I just need to test a software in a solaris based distribution
[16:21:36] <tsoome> the vbox images... today 2019, not 2008:)
[16:21:42] <tsoome> today is *
[16:22:52] <_i4k_> ouch… I found a vagrant box (openindiana/hipster) and I’m waiting the download to finish
[16:23:15] <_i4k_> https://vagrantcloud.com/openindiana/boxes/hipster/versions/20181023/providers/virtualbox.box
[16:23:25] <_i4k_> this one is 2018
[16:24:08] <_i4k_> tsoome: is openindiana easily able to upgrade to 2019 softwares?
[16:24:45] <tsoome> if the gap is not too big.
[16:26:57] <_i4k_> yes, it works =)
[16:26:58] <_i4k_> $ vagrant ssh openindiana
[16:26:59] <_i4k_> The Illumos Project SunOS 5.11 illumos-42a3762d01 October 2018
[16:29:31] <_i4k_> tsoome: thank you
[16:29:37] <tsoome> yw
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[16:35:18] <_i4k_> do you know what exact pkg provides gcc?
[16:35:44] <_i4k_> “pkg install gcc” complains it matches several packages
[16:35:55] <_i4k_> all of them doesn’t seem to be the actual compiler
[16:36:07] <_i4k_> pkg install: 'gcc' matches multiple packages
[16:36:08] <_i4k_> pkg://openindiana.org/library/math/petsc/openmpi/gcc
[16:36:09] <_i4k_> pkg://openindiana.org/library/math/petsc/mpich/gcc
[16:36:10] <_i4k_> pkg://openindiana.org/library/openmpi/gcc
[16:36:11] <_i4k_> pkg://openindiana.org/library/mpich/gcc
[16:36:22] <tsoome> there are few because there are few versions.
[16:36:43] <tsoome> pkg install gcc-7 for gcc-7.x
[16:36:48] <tsoome> and so on.
[16:38:19] <tsoome> but before, you should try pkg update.
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[16:40:44] <_i4k_> yeah, ok! It’s updating now
[16:40:45] <_i4k_> thanks
[16:41:55] <_i4k_> tsoome: are you a developer?
[16:42:10] <tsoome> I am
[16:43:19] <_i4k_> nice, I’m one of the maintainers of a web application servers that runs on linux, freebsd, solaris, osx, and so on.
[16:43:57] <_i4k_> I never used solaris, but now one of the features I’m working on requires some knowledge of the solaris permission system / capability system
[16:44:43] <_i4k_> the thing is, the web server should run user processes as unprivileged user
[16:45:00] <_i4k_> then the program needs to setuid/setgid after forking
[16:45:31] <v_a_b> _i4k_ How are you starting your server? In Solaris there is SMF (where systemd got their first ideas from :-)) which can do the job for you.
[16:46:08] <_i4k_> you know, this is a privileged syscall but on Linux instead of running the server as root.. I can just start it as an unprivileged user and pass the appropriate capabilities
[16:46:33] <_i4k_> hmm, I’ll search about it
[16:46:53] <v_a_b> So you start as user <webserver> and then do a setuid/setgid to <someotheruser> ?
[16:49:17] <v_a_b> Here is something to get you started: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37838_01/html/E60998/index.html
[16:49:51] <v_a_b> It's the current Oracle documentation for SMF. Most of it works in all Illumos-based distros (OpenIndiana, SmartOS, OmniOS, ...) as well.
[16:50:05] <wacki> _i4k_: On OI Hipster you should also install the package "build-essential" (pkg install build-essential). This will install many needed things for development, eg. the main gcc version that is used to compile OI userland packages.
[16:51:00] <wacki> If you have doubts you can dry-run pkg with "pkg install -nv build-essential" :-)
[16:53:13] <_i4k_> wacki: about how we run the server, it depends on the user security needs. He can run the master process as root, but we always fork and setuid/setgid to an unprivileged user.
[16:54:19] <_i4k_> On linux, the user can run the master as a non-root user, but then he needs to set the righr capabilities (CAP_SETUID, CAP_SETGID)
[16:54:31] <_i4k_> is this behaviour supported by solaris?
[16:54:58] <_i4k_> the project is unit.nginx.org
[16:55:28] <_i4k_> when starting it, the user can pass: unitd —user nobody —group nobody
[16:55:54] <tsoome> you may want to check https://sunwfrk.com/allow-a-daemon-under-with-non-root-privileges-to-use-a-port-1024/
[16:55:58] <_i4k_> then the applications will have this unprivileged user if the master process can setuid/setgid
[16:56:51] <_i4k_> tsoome: ah thanks!
[16:57:06] <_i4k_> then with usermod I can achieve the same as setcap on linux
[16:57:45] <tsoome> that is just one possible way, you can also set privilege for SMF service.
[16:59:04] <_i4k_> nice, I’ll read the docs
[16:59:51] <_i4k_> on linux I can use cap_get to test if the process has an specific capability. Do you know the right syscall to test for cap in solaris?
[17:00:53] <tsoome> you can start from man privileges
[17:01:34] <_i4k_> ok, I think I found: getpflags / setpflags
[17:01:45] <_i4k_> I’ll start from there
[17:02:11] <_i4k_> tsoome, wacki: thank you very much!
[17:15:18] <ryaeng> MacBook is apparently on the fritz... Which machine do you gents compile on? What gives you the fastest compile times?
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[17:59:53] <alanc> _i4k_: the rough equivalent to capabilities in Solaris/illumos is https://illumos.org/man/5/privileges
[18:00:45] <ryaeng> Looking at this one https://www.illumos.org/issues/6130
[18:01:03] <ryaeng> How can I determine where M_INVALID is defined. https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/4e0c5eff9af325c80994e9527b7cb8b3a1ffd1d4/usr/src/cmd/oamuser/user/useradd.c#L414
[18:06:07] <tsoome> ryaeng: http://src.illumos.org/source/search?q=&defs=M_INVALID&refs=&path=&hist=&project=illumos-gate
[18:06:13] <_i4k_> alanc: yes, thanks. The capability I need to test is: PRIV_PROC_SETID
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[23:30:30] <Cthulhux`> hmm
[23:30:43] <Cthulhux`> my omnios freezes ssh after a while
[23:30:46] <Cthulhux`> weird
[23:39:20] <LeftWing> Cthulhux`: Just a specific SSH connection? You can make another one and the new one is OK?
[23:39:52] <Cthulhux`> LeftWing: it's on my server. i have to reboot it from a serial console so it responds again
[23:45:44] <LeftWing> So you can log in on the serial console once SSH is stuck? Are you able to use the network at all in that condition, or is all network traffic stuck?
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