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[09:36:54] <sjorge> That the nice thing, software can’t hurt you physically
[09:36:59] <sjorge> Hardware on the other hand
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[13:10:42] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10703 smatch unreachable code checking needs reworking -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
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[17:48:26] <LeftWing> sjorge: Software can be responsible for hardware hurting you, though; e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25
[17:49:43] <jbk> or more recently, the 737-Max
[17:52:46] <LeftWing> Indeed.
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[20:07:15] <richlowe> you're also underselling exactly how much software can hurt you mentally.
[20:12:33] <ptribble> richlowe: any opinion on https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2240/ ?
[20:13:00] <ptribble> seeing as you suggested I looked at it...
[20:14:22] <richlowe> I'll look.
[20:14:31] <richlowe> You need to email me, or Cc me or whatever if you want me to notice things :)
[20:15:00] <ptribble> or poke you here seems to work
[20:15:48] <richlowe> Oh, sure, I just thought you were wondering why I hadn't looked already, with the ellipsis
[20:17:25] <richlowe> ptribble: did you do all the \f(.)\f\1 stuff, or just in pages you touched, r?
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[20:24:11] <ptribble> I tend to tidy it up when I spot it as I'm reading through checking, because it offends my sensibilities
[20:24:40] <ptribble> And I did wonder about mailwrapper
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[20:58:37] <sjorge> LeftWing those seem like fu ncases of who is liable :|
[21:00:09] <sjorge> Can someone summerize all the NULL changes? Was our NULL different from say FreeBSD and others, thus making gcc unhappy?
[21:00:11] <sjorge> Or?
[21:00:30] <richlowe> Yes.
[21:00:39] <richlowe> well, I dunno about FreeBSD
[21:00:43] <richlowe> but our NULL wasn't a pointer.
[21:01:26] <sjorge> So after all the patching it is a pointer to \0 somehwre?
[21:01:58] <richlowe> no, a pointer with address 0
[21:02:02] <richlowe> a pointer to \0 is quite different :)
[21:04:28] <sjorge> And address 0 being invalid for other pointers?
[21:06:14] <tsoome> address 0 is special.
[21:07:30] <tsoome> there are many other invalid values for addresses, but this one is marked with special symbol (NULL).
[21:14:01] <sjorge> How did software deal with it before the work to change it? e.g. samba compiled from source?
[21:14:09] <sjorge> Ah wait, wer had a patched gcc
[21:14:13] <sjorge> so that probably took care of it
[21:14:37] <richlowe> no, just literal integer 0 being promoted to a pointer size and then treated as an address.
[21:14:42] <richlowe> v. actually being one.
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[23:45:36] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11032 Time spent sharing SMB filesystems could be reduced by optimizing smb_getdataset for default mount points -- Joyce McIntosh <joyce.mcintosh at nexenta dot com>
[23:45:37] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11033 It's time to require SMB signing by default -- Gordon Ross <gwr at nexenta dot com>
[23:45:38] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11034 Restoring previous versions from snapshots doesn't work with nested datasets -- Matt Barden <matt.barden at nexenta dot com>
[23:45:39] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11035 Minimal SMB 3.0.2 support -- Matt Barden <matt.barden at nexenta dot com>
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