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[00:00:15] <jrg> richlowe: well i suppose if mount_smbfs works for mounting as users then the vfstab is probably a bit less useful
[00:01:14] <jrg> in linux it's a bit necessary in fstab because you can add a user flag to it as well as credentials=~/.smbcreds or something to that nature to avoid having credentials plastered in the fstab ... i was unable to get vfstab to mount without the credentials being explicit in vfstab
[00:02:08] <jrg> with that being said. let me reboot and see if mount -F smbfs works as users now heh
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[00:28:18] <wilbury> what's the actual illumos alternative to boot0cfg? tsoome ?
[00:34:02] <jrg> so i've been testing smb. and it seems like it is incredibly slow
[00:34:20] <jrg> anybody have any ideas? are there options i should be adding to make it faster?
[00:38:17] <papertigers> jrg: did you try a general iperf3 test?
[00:38:50] <jrg> trying that now. but sftp goes 80MB/s
[00:38:55] <jrg> so it seems something smb related
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[01:28:04] <andyf> @bahamat - I spent a lot of time trying to make `netstat -u` (show process IDs) work decently based on a patch from somebody, even did a lot of cleanup to `netstat` itself.. I just couldn't make it fast enough
[01:28:14] <andyf> too much overhead tracking file descriptors
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[01:28:54] <andyf> @jlevon, @rmustacc - I think that changing ps to show modified arguments would be a problem for lots of scripts
[01:30:27] <andyf> At least in my experience, I have seen a lot of scripts that would break if I understand this properly
[01:31:34] <andyf> @bahamat - https://github.com/citrus-it/illumos-omnios/commits/__netstat - based on work by Mohamed A. Khalfella
[01:31:37] <bahamat> andyf: You mean background stuff in the kernel itself, not just netstat itself?
[01:32:07] <bahamat> Cause like, I don't mind waiting several seconds for netstat. It's much faster than me hunting it down manually.
[01:32:11] <andyf> Yes, getting the kernel to keep track of what pids are associated with a file descriptor
[01:32:25] <andyf> handling things like fd passing as well as fork/exec
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[01:32:48] <bahamat> How does Linux do it? How do we do it for lx brand zones?
[01:34:26] <andyf> I don't know, but that would be worth investigating
[01:34:59] <andyf> On Solaris at least, even the man page says it's a best guess, and it definitely does not handle all cases.
[01:38:55] <andyf> @bahamat - ok, Linux netstat builds a database by traversing /proc
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[02:08:23] <andyf> We could probably do something similar by getting the mib interface to provide the inode.. and move the overhead to the netstat command.
[02:09:01] <andyf> something to look at when time allows anyway!
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[03:59:46] <richlowe> LeftWing: I guess 11530 means my desire for a way to tell coreadm not to ignore certain things is not crazy!
[03:59:57] <richlowe> but my sentences totally are
[04:00:02] <richlowe> "a way to tell coreadm to ignore certain things"
[04:02:55] <LeftWing> I guess not!
[04:05:06] <richlowe> I wish I remembered anything else about that desire, and I'd file the RFE!
[04:07:05] <richlowe> was it just coreadm -c <cmd>, and ... pid also having a way to gag -g?
[04:07:47] <rmustacc> If we had a coreadm -c <cmd> that'd make jlevon's thing much easier.
[04:08:01] <rmustacc> Because we could just say disable it all for this command.
[04:08:28] <rmustacc> As I have almost 6k badseg cores.
[04:09:00] <richlowe> Right.
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[04:13:51] <richlowe> I filed 11543
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[04:14:37] <richlowe> I'd appreciate knowing it made sense (both in general, but also grammatically)
[04:14:47] <richlowe> I imagine certain core file collection purists would want a privilege too?
[04:16:01] <rmustacc> Feels like the kind of thing I'd want.
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[05:17:00] <jrg> yeah i'm a bit lost with this samba performance
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[06:08:27] <jrg> so what is the to do with an illumos based storage solution?
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[07:50:27] <jrg> 2019-08-13T03:21:11.495034+00:00 smart unix: [ID 954099 kern.info] NOTICE: IRQ19 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels.#012This may result in reduced system performance.
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[08:09:07] <tsoome> intrstat ?
[08:18:11] <LeftWing> Also "mdb -ke ::interrupts"
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[08:20:33] <tsoome> ou, thats nice:)
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[10:51:52] <leoric> Hi, do we have something like O_ASYNC fcntl?
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[10:53:59] <leoric> convert it to aiocb?
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[10:58:31] <tsoome> we do not seem to support O_ASYNC
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[10:58:55] <tsoome> see sys/fcntl.h - the supported values are listed there.
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[11:17:45] <leoric> tsoome: I just look at https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/blob/6ea47f7a1107071503a26c8f0256b607e1ad29e9/usr/src/uts/common/brand/lx/syscall/lx_fcntl.c#L183 and see that lx brand uses FASYNC, but don't see specific changes to fcntl sysctl itself
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[11:19:32] <tsoome> hm
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[11:20:04] <tsoome> yea, there is http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/sys/file.h#100
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[11:21:03] <leoric> yes, but it seems I can't cook it :)
[11:21:30] <leoric> when I set it on fd, process doesn't receive any signals on input/output to that fd
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[11:22:19] <leoric> and BSD has O_ASYNC defined as FASYNC
[11:22:46] <tsoome> apparently we only have it (FASYNC) for sockets.
[11:23:08] <leoric> :(
[11:23:28] <tsoome> of course it is non-standard anyhow.
[11:23:42] <tsoome> but could be fun development project:)
[11:23:47] <leoric> for me having it in BSD + Linux means standard ;)
[11:26:08] <tsoome> linux compatibility does not make it standard but thats another story. nevertheless, having such compatibility should not hurt:)
[11:36:46] <jlevon> ptribble: ah crap, sorry, I should have thought about those smatch CFLAGS
[11:37:45] <ptribble> Should it be as simple as removing -msave-args?
[11:41:03] <jlevon> I'd rather we keep it for x86
[11:41:24] <ptribble> Sure
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[12:17:53] <tsoome> this is still not fixed: cw: couldn't run /code/illumos-gate/usr/src/tools/proto/root_i386-nd/opt/onbld/bin/i386/smatch: No such file or directory ?
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[12:38:00] <ptribble> Ugh. cw: error: mapping failed at or near arg '--primary'
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[12:42:00] <jlevon> tsoome: did you update your nightly?
[12:42:23] <tsoome> um… let me see..
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[12:43:03] <tsoome> apparently no:)
[12:43:20] <tsoome> sigh. stupid build system:P
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[12:47:29] <jlevon> tsoome: I could not figure out why smatch thinks row + col are uninitialized. I think it's some deep bug there.
[12:48:01] <tsoome> probably, but I think it does not hurt to have them set initially.
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[12:50:07] <tsoome> ah, there are few more
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[12:50:58] <jlevon> I'm in two minds about shutting smatch up like this (code changes)
[12:51:12] <jlevon> I think it could do with a comment at least too
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[12:54:14] <ptribble> smatch on SPARC is ... entertaining, at least
[12:54:16] <tsoome> I’ll leave libstand bits as is for now, will need updates there anyhow
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[12:56:11] <ptribble> That cw error above, looks like 11480 breaks the SPARC build
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[12:58:31] <andyf> ptribble, that seems odd.
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[12:59:08] <tsoome> ptribble: I have https://illumos.org/rb/r/1687/ waiting for RTI, after that we are clear for https://illumos.org/rb/r/1897/, but I think that one will break sparc:)
[12:59:34] <ptribble> I don't see how that can be either, but reverting 11480 makes it go away
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[13:00:13] <andyf> Are you using the nightly.sh from the tree?
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[13:00:24] <ptribble> It's a conspiracy! Let's all break SPARC!
[13:00:39] <ptribble> As far as I know nightly is from the tree
[13:00:43] <tsoome> I can provide git format-patch already so you will see how much…
[13:01:09] <ptribble> Yep, time ksh93 usr/src/tools/scripts/nightly.sh illumos.sh
[13:01:26] <ptribble> tsoome: yep, if I have a patch I can run a test build
[13:02:37] <tsoome> mailed
[13:03:32] <tsoome> I *hope* the userland should be fine and most of the kernel too, but there are those platform specific bits…
[13:04:45] <ptribble> Given how bad most of the sparc-specific code is, could be fun
[13:04:59] <tsoome> I wonder if our local “server room” has enough cooling to power on our T4…
[13:05:20] <tsoome> T4-1 even:D
[13:05:47] <igork> tsoome: i'll be interested in ldom on it :)
[13:06:14] <tsoome> can not do - its deep in local network...
[13:08:31] <tsoome> I plan to claim that machine, but before I can do that, I would still need to find the place to host it:D
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[14:38:54] <leoric> jlevon: well, scripts, which rely on ps -ef ? Are there any widespread examples?
[14:40:17] <leoric> I mean that making sane application an optional is a bad Solaris/illumos habit...
[14:40:34] <leoric> sane behavior
[14:41:16] <jlevon> I've seen ps -ef... | grep a million times yes
[14:41:55] <jlevon> @andyf had a specific example there too
[14:42:39] <andyf> I've just been looking at some startup scripts from things like vmware tools, netvault, tripwire.. they all use ps -ef and grep the output
[14:42:50] <leoric> so the issue is startup parameters vs application-set progname ?
[14:43:35] <andyf> jlevon, I presume your plan was to present /proc/xx/argv instead of needing root permission to delve into the address space directly?
[14:43:51] <andyf> (Oh, just saw the ipd email, I should read that, sorry)
[14:43:52] <jlevon> right. LeftWing already implemented the kernel side.
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[14:44:26] <andyf> Looks like we have it OmniOS too - probably for lx
[14:45:36] <jlevon> yes
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[14:50:30] <leoric> so, we introduce basically new flag with new semantics and leave 'fix' (eliminating 80-char) restriction from ps -ef for the future
[14:50:47] <leoric> why not
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[14:51:14] <andyf> and we could also remove the root requirement for ps auxww
[14:51:35] <Agnar> afaik solaris fixed that already
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[14:54:25] <andyf> yes, they have /proc/$$/cmdline
[14:55:01] <Agnar> haven't checked for 2y now...
[14:55:03] <jlevon> I don't have any access. is that exec() time or current?
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[15:00:28] <andyf> initial
[15:00:35] <andyf> (according to man proc.5)
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[15:04:33] <jlevon> so I wonder how they do that
[15:06:59] <Agnar> afaik I read an post from alanc about /proc/$$/cmdline fix in Sol11.4
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[15:08:35] <andyf> I suppose it is more than just psinfo->pr_psargs
[15:09:20] <andyf> https://blogs.oracle.com/casper/solaris-113-sru-56:-updates-in-ps1-and-procltpidgtcmdline,environ,execname
[15:11:37] <jlevon> "The cmdline and environment file are very similar to those found under Linux, however these do reflect the actual argument vectors in the process' address space, so they do not reflect the changes made by the programs themselves."
[15:11:39] <jlevon> whut
[15:12:11] <andyf> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:13:26] <jlevon> I guess they just always make a copy on every exec
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[15:43:00] <jrg> So I run iperf between the smartos box and the Freemasons box. It gives 942mbit. Start a large smb xfer and that goes 200mbit. Run iperf again the same way. It drops to 400mbit.
[15:43:09] * jrg is lost with this
[15:46:42] <jimklimov> is there a direct link or some switch or even more gear along the way?
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[15:47:43] <jimklimov> maybe it is busy with other consumers in a spike, and/or quiesces a too-eager talker to reserve bandwidth for others :\
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[16:12:28] <clapont> hi everyone
[16:13:19] <rmustacc> Hello
[16:15:12] <clapont> any idea why a Zpool would not see the new added LUN? the "zpool add poolname c4t2046..." worked fine but the size did not get increased even if the autoexpand is on.. and export/import took more than half hour
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[16:40:17] <tsoome> is it read from smb or write to?
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[17:58:58] <leoric> richlowe: are you fine with the last version of http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net/webrev-10540/ ?
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[18:00:04] <richlowe> the scope still seems weird, but yes.
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[22:50:19] <MilkmanDan> What's the status of tracking ZoL as the upstream source for zfs?
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[23:15:36] <rmustacc> MilkmanDan: Folks are merging various sets of work in and other things. So if you look at what's going on, there's steady work.
[23:16:31] <LeftWing> I don't think of it as an upstream per se, either -- we're getting in sync with the work that's been done over there, but it's less like the illumos-gate/illumos-joyent relationship where we frequently import all of -gate into -joyent regularly
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[23:19:59] <MilkmanDan> Hmm. Complicated.
[23:20:11] <rmustacc> All solutions are.
[23:20:40] <MilkmanDan> I thought "everyone" was just going to finish up whatever they were doing before and just use ZoL as the upstream repo from then on.
[23:21:24] <rmustacc> Ultimately, I'm not one of the folks who are working on this on a day to day basis, so I can't speak to their intent.
[23:21:40] <MilkmanDan> So I guess the best way to compare zfs features and behavior is to install the OS and compare the implementations directly.
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[23:22:46] <rmustacc> Perhaps. I imagine that anyone doing work on ZFS will be working with folks in the broader ZFS community anyways.
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