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[00:40:39] <jrg> richlowe: nope. i'm actually doing this on a smartos box which is similar
[00:40:50] <jrg> but mount -F smbfs requires root
[00:41:21] <jrg> even mounting with vfstab doesn't work without putting the username:password in the line
[00:41:28] <jrg> instead of trying to read .nsmbrc from ~
[00:41:54] <jrg> on a side note. which pkg has g++ using pkgin?
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[00:42:15] <jperkin> gcc7
[00:42:36] <jrg> guess i shouldn't have installed gcc8?
[00:43:14] <jperkin> you can but it doesn't have any of our patches, gcc7 is what is used to build all the packages
[00:43:43] <jperkin> installing the build-essential package will always get you the correct gcc used for that release
[00:44:03] <jrg> yeah. sorry. i'm using a base64 joyent zone
[00:44:17] <jrg> illumos is similar so i figured i'd come here and ask about the smb mounting
[00:44:32] <jrg> thanks though. seems like gcc8 didn't have g++?
[00:45:07] <jperkin> it does but it doesn't have the alternatives set up so you'd need to call it directly from /opt/local/gcc8/bin
[00:45:17] <jrg> ah ok
[00:45:28] <jrg> it's fine. gcc7 will work for me i already removed / installed gcc7
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[00:48:48] <jrg> ok. going to try out the znc in the joyent zone heh
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[01:05:08] <richlowe> jrg: I gave up on the documentation and have emailed Gorden
[01:05:10] <richlowe> Gordon, even
[01:05:33] <jrg> richlowe: yeah. i think the smb2.1 bits are all new
[01:05:52] <richlowe> I don't even know if he's touched the client at all.
[01:05:52] <jrg> but one of the issues i ran into was not being able to define user mounting in the zone
[01:06:08] <jrg> i think he must have
[01:06:18] <jrg> because prior to a few months ago the client could only do smb1
[01:06:50] <jrg> so mount_smbfs seems to mount but i'm not really sure how much was added to how to address vstab and user mounting of smb
[01:07:06] <jrg> typically on a linux system you'd just add the mount with a user flag
[01:07:10] <jrg> in fstab
[01:07:19] <richlowe> smbfs(7D) makes it pretty clear that _not_ having per-user mounts makes the client somewhat useless.
[01:07:26] <richlowe> the "An important implication" paragraph.
[01:07:45] <jrg> yeah i sort of figured the same. although like i said.. smartos follows illumos rather closely
[01:07:58] <jrg> but it's possible it may be a smartos issue and not illumos... although i think it still is
[01:08:12] <richlowe> but does leave you in a zone, which may matter.
[01:08:39] <jrg> well.. i can mount from within the zone using mount -F smbfs with a proper ~/.nsmbrc
[01:09:18] <jrg> but only as root and only using a command, i can't simply call vfstab from mount and have it work. nor does it work with a flag for credentials either.
[01:09:41] <jrg> i think the only way i was able to get the vfstab to work was with the old method of pluggin a username:password in it.. which isn't very secure / practical
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[02:22:36] <jrg> so with the smb mounted in a native zone.. i'm getting awful xfer speeds
[02:22:38] <jrg> like 10MB/s
[03:15:20] <LeftWing> jrg: Have you tried iperf3 to make sure TCP works OK?
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[03:21:17] <jrg> LeftWing: not yet
[03:21:26] <jrg> i'll do it tomorrow. i'm working on something now.
[03:21:38] <jrg> but smb itself is giving me 10MB/s which is ridiculous slow lol
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[03:33:09] <richlowe> the... flexibility, of make's language is a real delight.
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[15:06:02] <jrg> So a guy tried to take a gun into a plane.
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[17:33:08] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11506 smatch resync -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
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[17:47:34] <tsoome> ou nice
[18:09:53] <richlowe> jrg: Gordon also says mount -Fsmbfs ... onto a directory you own should work
[18:10:10] <richlowe> basically, he said to me everything I said to you but in the opposite order.
[18:10:11] <richlowe> so I don't know
[18:10:32] <jrg> richlowe: tried that. I’ll try it again when I get home.
[18:10:50] <jrg> As a matter of fact. I’ll try it now heh.
[18:11:21] <richlowe> my only guess would be smartos/being in a zone(?) weirds it
[18:11:31] <richlowe> or I misunderstood gordon _and_ my memory of all this
[18:11:33] <richlowe> which is quite possible
[18:11:56] <jrg> Insufficient privileges, mount must be set-uid root
[18:12:20] <jrg> Is there some sort of flag that must be set on a zone to allow it?
[18:13:10] <jrg> Or some option? Heh. But yeah. It isn’t letting me do it as a user in a zone. It works for root just fine tho. I’ve been mounting it with uid/gid flags with sudo.
[18:13:54] <richlowe> jrg: are they just shipping /usr/lib/fs/smbfs/mount with the wrong permissions?
[18:13:57] <richlowe> that'd explain a lot...
[18:14:15] <jrg> Let me take a look.
[18:15:16] <rmustacc> Yup.
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[18:15:20] <rmustacc> We are.
[18:16:33] <rmustacc> Should be 4555, we're shipping it 555.
[18:16:37] <rmustacc> I'll get that sorted.
[18:17:16] <jrg> So would chmod 4555 make it work? Heh
[18:18:01] <richlowe> might need to copy it, chmod the copy, and loop-mount it back
[18:18:32] <rmustacc> I can give you a platform image with a fix for that in a few hours.
[18:18:38] <jrg> Yah. It’s ro. Too much of a pain on my iPhone in an ssh client.
[18:18:48] <jrg> rmustacc: im running smartos
[18:18:52] <rmustacc> Yes, I know.
[18:18:56] <rmustacc> That's what I'm preparing.
[18:18:56] <jrg> Oh ok.
[18:19:07] <rmustacc> Just figured I should fix the problem you hit.
[18:19:37] <jrg> That would be awesome. After that I need to sort out the smb speed issues.
[18:19:44] <jrg> I’m getting 10MB/s
[18:19:51] <rmustacc> That I'll be less helpful with.
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[18:20:12] <jrg> Yeah I still need to run iperf for interface testing anyways.
[18:20:39] <jrg> I’m actually already using the native zone now as a shell box to see how well it can be used as such.
[18:22:11] <rmustacc> Anyways, I filed OS-7948
[18:22:13] <rmustacc> Oops.
[18:22:16] <rmustacc> This: https://smartos.org/bugview/OS-7948
[18:22:20] <rmustacc> And kicked off a build.
[18:22:31] <rmustacc> You want a raw platform tgz or a specific console based usb/iso image?
[18:23:46] <jrg> This would be the smartos side being updated outside the zone then lofs mounting into it?
[18:24:07] <rmustacc> It's just a whole new platform image.
[18:24:19] <rmustacc> So, the action would be to just swap it.
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[18:25:12] <jrg> You mean smartos image. Not new zone image?
[18:25:35] <richlowe> yes, platform image
[18:25:40] <jrg> Whatever is easiest. I can probably just swap usb drives of just shut it down for a bit to make it.
[18:25:56] <jrg> How long before it’s pushed out as an official update?
[18:26:21] <jrg> Then I could just use the live update script.
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[18:39:33] <papertigers> jrg: are you using the calmh script?
[18:39:40] <papertigers> If so you can use it with a file
[18:40:09] <papertigers> although I had to modify it a bit locally to make it easier
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[18:43:07] <jrg> Yeah. I just noticed that when I looked at the help on it heh.
[18:43:42] <jrg> So I’ll grab the tgz when rmustacc is done doing the thing.
[18:45:04] <jrg> At least it was just a permissions issue. After I test it out I’ll work on joining the native zone to a domain.
[18:53:22] <jrg> On a side note. Does anybody know the situation with vfstab + smb? I wasn’t able to mount it when adding the entry to vfstab without credentials.
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[19:32:34] <ptribble> Oh bother.
[19:33:10] <ptribble> Just getting a couple of fixes ready for RTI, and the gate's gone and changed in the meantime.
[19:38:24] <ptribble> My fault for not submitting them quick enough, I guess.
[19:38:52] <rmustacc> Does it invalidate some of your stuff somehow?
[19:41:50] <LeftWing> If nothing has changed in your area in the meantime, a rebase without another build might still be fine
[19:42:27] <ptribble> As far as I can tell, not at all. About half the errors I get when applying the patch to current gate are where the copyrights have changed.
[19:46:11] <ptribble> Actually, I miscounted - all the failures are copyrights. Makes sense, I suppose, that's where different people are making modifications to the same place in a file.
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[19:47:15] <ptribble> LeftWing: are you happy with https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/1204/ ?
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[19:58:04] <LeftWing> ptribble: I still think it would be good to have a mode where you can use _only_ the provided passwd file, and not fall back to the current system -- but I also don't use this, or need that myself, so I'm not going to stand in the way
[19:59:48] <ptribble> Sure. The current implementation matches our usage, so after a bit of thought I deciided to keep it as is. Are you happy to be listed as a reviewer?
[20:01:57] <LeftWing> Yup!
[20:02:53] <ptribble> Thanks!
[20:03:39] <ptribble> (That one I need to tidy up a little as pbchk has got a little more fastidious since I originally wrote it.)
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[20:48:54] <jrg> rmustacc: is the fixed image available. If it is may I be able to grab a copy from somewhere?
[20:49:10] <rmustacc> jrg: Was actually just booting it to verify I had the right perms.
[20:49:26] <rmustacc> So just wanted to make sure I actually fixed the problem before I gave you a URL.
[20:49:33] <rmustacc> Should be up in just about a minute.
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[20:50:04] <jrg> Ah ok. Thanks. I’m heading home in a minute. I’ll grab it and try it out once I’m home.
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[20:50:52] <rmustacc> jrg: https://us-east.manta.joyent.com/rmustacc/public/tmp/platform-20190812T165055Z.tgz
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[20:52:44] <jrg> Ok thanks. I’m downloading it now. I’ll live update in an hour or so.
[20:53:14] <rmustacc> Sure, it's at your convenience.
[20:53:58] <jrg> Sure wish FreeBSD would do the same to their smb mounting. I believe they were on the same boat with the smb1 only support.
[20:55:01] <rmustacc> Can't help there, sorry.
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[20:55:25] <jrg> I know heh.
[21:00:36] <jrg> Is there a chksum too?
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[21:04:13] <rmustacc> jrg: fbafe8c602871e808be3ec11abcfc60a1646560f is a sha1 from digest -a sha1
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[21:05:12] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11475 gptzfsboot: update parsing the option switches -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[21:28:24] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11523 i86pc: dboot_startkern.c:2046: error: comparison between pointer and integer -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:32:42] <tsoome> danmcd: am I pushing my luck with 10721 ?:)
[21:33:37] <danmcd> I think I accidentally didn't mark it as unread, for one thing.
[21:33:53] <danmcd> (I leave RTI requests unread and read 'em in batches.
[21:33:55] <danmcd> )
[21:34:49] <tsoome> aye. anyhow, it is last one in NULL pointer issue, next on after is null.h itself (https://illumos.org/rb/r/1897/), but I have no way to test it
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[21:57:14] <jrg> fbafe8c602871e808be3ec11abcfc60a1646560f
[22:11:00] <jrg> wtf
[22:11:14] <jrg> even trying to manually make the md5sum.txt the script is still spitting out that it doesn't match
[22:13:31] <jrg> digest -a md5 -v /opt/local/bin/platform-20190812T165055Z.tgz >> md5sum.txt
[22:13:42] <jrg> Downloading platform-release--20190812T165055Z.tgz... OK
[22:13:42] <jrg> Verifying checksum... failed
[22:13:50] <jrg> update script problem?
[22:16:31] <rmustacc> tsoome: regarding testing the sys/null one, we should test that with a pkgsrc bulk build.
[22:17:15] <rmustacc> Which is something we can arrange.
[22:18:16] * jrg scratches his head
[22:18:30] <rmustacc> Regarding your script, I'm not sure which script it's referring to.
[22:19:08] <jrg> the calmh script platform-upgrade
[22:19:14] <rmustacc> I'm not familiar with it,s orry.
[22:19:17] <jrg> it's asking for an md5 file too
[22:19:24] <jrg> and no matter how i create one it just doesn't work.
[22:19:56] <rmustacc> I don't know what it's looking for.
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[22:20:24] <jrg> i don't either. are there instructions for a live update using a tgz for smartos?
[22:21:32] <jrg> i tried creating md5sum.txt with openssl and digest and the script still doesn't accept it .. i'll look at where the script grabs it and see if i can figure it out
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[22:24:49] <rmustacc> jrg: Do you have a url to the script?
[22:25:07] <jrg> https://github.com/calmh/smartos-platform-upgrade
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[22:26:34] <jrg> i mean all it looks like it does is just use openssl to verify the hashes are the same
[22:27:11] <rmustacc> Yeah. I guess it's looking for our actual release ones and not a one off build I did.
[22:27:24] <rmustacc> Does the sha1 digest match what I gave you?
[22:27:42] <jrg> but it has a -s file:///md5sum.txt option
[22:27:56] <jrg> which gives the appearance of you being able to just create your own and force it to use it
[22:28:16] <jrg> wonder if i can just # the entire md5sum section and keep it moving heh
[22:29:17] <jperkin> make sure you're using the right digest, there is the one in the platform and the one from pkgsrc, and they do not support the same args
[22:29:19] <rmustacc> Looks like this is the kind of file it's looking for.
[22:29:20] <rmustacc> https://us-east.manta.joyent.com/Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20190731T235744Z/md5sums.txt
[22:29:56] <papertigers> jrg: did you figure out the md5sum
[22:30:27] <papertigers> you have to have a file with the md5sum and you have to have "<sum> platform-release--20190812T165055Z.tgz"
[22:30:30] <papertigers> it wants it in that format
[22:31:23] <papertigers> like earlier when I upgraded using that script from a file I had this:
[22:31:25] <papertigers> 8ccdc151a019f5c8100a78c4f08043d9 platform-release--20190807T024027Z.tgz
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[22:35:00] <jrg> i'm still getting fail lol
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[22:35:33] <jrg> cat md5sum.txt
[22:35:33] <jrg> 4878c946cf49ecad108be99fecf9c8fb platform-20190812T165055Z.tgz
[22:36:21] <jrg> platform-upgrade -u file:///opt/local/bin/platform-20190812T165055Z.tgz -s file:///opt/local/bin/md5sum.txt
[22:36:32] <papertigers> it spits out the exact platform name its looking for when it fails
[22:36:41] <papertigers> it probably has the release-- in there
[22:36:53] <papertigers> it's definitely not user friendly
[22:37:02] <jrg> Downloading platform-release--20190812T165055Z.tgz... OK
[22:37:06] <papertigers> :D
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[22:37:11] <jrg> Verifying checksum... failed
[22:37:32] <papertigers> "4878c946cf49ecad108be99fecf9c8fb platform-release--20190812T165055Z.tgz"
[22:37:37] <papertigers> is what your file needs
[22:38:21] <jrg> it needs the quotes?
[22:38:23] <jrg> heh
[22:38:27] <papertigers> no quotes
[22:39:06] <jrg> do i have to rename the file?
[22:39:16] <papertigers> nope
[22:39:24] * jrg scratches his head
[22:39:29] <jrg> i didn't even realize it was doing that lol
[22:40:44] <papertigers> did that work for you?
[22:40:45] <jrg> 2 dashes after release too haha
[22:40:47] <jrg> yes
[22:41:11] <jrg> so it "downloads" it to a temp dir. then it changes the file name and checks the hash against a differently named file?
[22:41:17] <papertigers> yep it wants that exact format. It's the same one that exists for the releases in manta
[22:41:39] <papertigers> I would have to confirm with the script what it actually does with it
[22:42:05] <jrg> the script needs a "create hash" option hah
[22:43:05] <jrg> but yeah. it's a bit awkward with regard to requiring the change in file name in the md5sum.txt file
[22:43:56] <papertigers> ideally we should ship some sort of upgrade script in smartos itself like Triton has
[22:44:28] <jrg> make it an actual program... written in asm
[22:45:13] <jrg> jk, but yeah. it would be nice to have it stock.
[22:45:44] <jrg> this script runs fine for released updates... this md5 weirdness just threw me off not noticing that it had release-- attached to it for the md5 check
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[22:52:07] <papertigers> it got me the other day when I installed from a file for the first time
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[23:01:24] <jrg> papertigers: i'm adding it as an issue to the github
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[23:02:58] <jrg> papertigers: thanks for the help though. it's updating now still
[23:04:46] <jrg> done. just have to reboot. i'll do that when i get back from the store.
[23:15:30] <richlowe> jrg, rmustacc: https://www.illumos.org/issues/11542
[23:15:49] <papertigers> jrg: np
[23:16:24] <richlowe> I'm unclear whether I've confused myself more or less trying to find manual pages to slip all this info into that people may actually find when they want to know it.
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[23:43:28] <jlevon> bahamat: yes, it means ps -ef won't truncate any more.
[23:43:37] <bahamat> 🤩🤩
[23:43:56] <jlevon> I'm not too sure if people are kind of relying on the truncation now
[23:44:11] <rmustacc> It'll also mean that we're changing from using the kernel's version to the modified user version, right?
[23:44:19] <bahamat> Now I just need `netstat -p` to work
[23:44:31] <rmustacc> Are there implications about who or what can read that then and when we'll need to fall back?
[23:44:51] <rmustacc> Presumably my non-privileged user can't read jlevon's processes.
[23:45:27] <jlevon> it's all dependent on whatever we do for the argv file
[23:45:35] <jlevon> I need to go look at that though.
[23:45:59] <jbk> rmustacc: unless procfs is doing some additional checks in the kernel, currently on smartos /proc/pid/argv is 0444
[23:46:10] <jlevon> it is not
[23:47:21] <rmustacc> So the biggest change I guess in addition to trunctation is that we'll see the user's modified arguments.
[23:47:36] <rmustacc> At least, based on what it looks like the code is doing.
[23:47:39] <jlevon> which seems like exactly what we want
[23:47:47] <rmustacc> That feels somewhat of a substantial change.
[23:47:49] <jlevon> (and already happens in pfexec ps auxww as I mentioned)
[23:48:06] <rmustacc> I guess sometimes I really want the actual arguments from exec, but that's not what we have.
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[23:48:15] <rmustacc> Like if I NULL out arguments, you'll lose information.
[23:48:37] <rmustacc> Just because I parse my arguments in my process and say advance and insert NUL characters.
[23:49:01] <rmustacc> I do think it's something we want. I'm just not sure what that means for expectations, since the truncated form is from the kernel copy.
[23:49:16] <papertigers> rmustacc: maybe we should add a separate argv in proc that has the original exec arguments?
[23:49:16] <jlevon> it seems far more likely that actually the intentional setproctitle() etc. is what we want
[23:49:42] <rmustacc> jlevon: For the process title, generally. It's the modified arguments which has screwed me.
[23:49:42] <jlevon> LeftWing had the same thing. I'm not sure it makes sense to gate this change on adding that new feature though.
[23:50:10] <rmustacc> If you had the string 'foo=bar' and you've turned it into 'foo\0bar\0', not sure what that means.
[23:50:35] <richlowe> that you're a big meany.
[23:50:44] <rmustacc> Why should I strdup my own args?
[23:51:35] <rmustacc> Not trying to say we shouldn't do this, just that there are more differences than just not truncation.
[23:51:56] <jlevon> yes. I wasn't trying to imply otherwise by that email. I should probably have expanded on it.
[23:52:28] <rmustacc> It was mostly something because you asked about compat.
[23:58:52] <jlevon> I think we could probably usefully add a ps option to provide the 'unmodified' args. then if we ever add a copy of initial argv we can expand it
[23:58:57] <jlevon> and the first line of pargs
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[23:59:17] <rmustacc> And for the time being we'd use the current procfs variant for that?
[23:59:25] <jlevon> right
[23:59:28] <rmustacc> OK.
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