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[06:13:58] <tsoome> cool, thanks:)
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[07:18:23] <tsoome> quick question, (sorry for being lazy with search), why sys_nerr and few others are exposed only for _ELF32 ? (http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/lib/libc/port/mapfile-vers#1821)
[07:18:54] <rmustacc> Because they basically were unfortunately made public in the 32-bit ABI.
[07:19:05] <rmustacc> But they shouldn't be.
[07:19:23] <rmustacc> It makes it very hard to add another errno safely, because some versions of the compiler used copy relocations. :/
[07:19:41] <tsoome> I see, ok
[07:20:20] <rmustacc> At least, I think I'm remembering that correctly.
[07:20:31] <tsoome> so instead of _sys_num_err and sys_nerr, we should check errno after strerror()
[07:20:42] <rmustacc> Hmm?
[07:21:08] <tsoome> we do expose _sys_num_err, and sys_nerr is set from _sys_num_err
[07:21:41] <tsoome> which made me to be surprised about sys_nerr:)
[07:21:44] <rmustacc> Well, _sys_num_err is only exposed in ILP32.
[07:21:49] <rmustacc> So really, new software shouldn't use either?
[07:22:05] <tsoome> based on your explanation, indeed.
[07:22:24] <rmustacc> Are you trying to use something outside of libc to determine something?
[07:23:20] <tsoome> I am building tools/make with gcc9 and got:
[07:23:21] <tsoome> Undefined first referenced
[07:23:21] <tsoome> symbol in file
[07:23:22] <tsoome> sys_nerr ../lib/vroot/libvroot.a(lock.o)
[07:23:38] <rmustacc> Ah.
[07:23:40] <tsoome> this is because gcc9 defaults to 64bit
[07:23:59] <tsoome> which should be fine, just we need to apply proper fixes:D
[07:24:02] <rmustacc> Probably should just, for consistency make make use the same -m32 as everything else?
[07:24:22] <tsoome> maybe, but it does not hurt to review the errors
[07:24:39] <rmustacc> Sure, not saying we shouldn't look at what it's trying to do.
[07:24:52] <rmustacc> Just that's the kind of thing we don't want to vary based on what compiler we're using.
[07:25:15] <tsoome> but yes, depending on amount of noise there, it may be reasonable to enforce -m32
[07:25:27] <rmustacc> We should do that regardless, though.
[07:25:43] <rmustacc> If I build with gcc7, gcc8, or gcc9 I should get the same bitness binary.
[07:26:10] <tsoome> true
[07:26:19] <rmustacc> In the case of make, we can just have it use sterror() and check for errno == EINVAL to print its own message.
[07:26:36] <tsoome> the switch to different bitness should be intended change
[07:26:40] <rmustacc> Right.
[07:26:54] <rmustacc> But we should also just get rid of the sys_nerr usage in make.
[07:27:05] <tsoome> yes, thats what I am doing with sys_nerr there.
[07:27:23] <rmustacc> So, set errno to 0, call strerror, cehck for a non-zero errno and then do an snprintf like it does.
[07:27:30] <rmustacc> Well, change its sprintf to snprintf.
[07:27:43] <rmustacc> That make sense?
[07:28:37] <tsoome> the errno part is already done:)
[07:30:18] <rmustacc> It's pretty funny because in makestate/lock.c it actually seems to know that this is a thing.
[07:30:40] <rmustacc> But didn't do anything.
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[07:32:01] <tsoome> geesh for getmem() - it does a lot of work to compose the error message in local buffer, then does fputs to stderr… but… fprintf…
[07:32:07] <rmustacc> I.
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[13:19:01] <jollyd> tsoome: re https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/2214/diff/1/# is there a distinction betwee $($(NATIVE_MACH)_FOOFLAGS) and $($(MACH)_FOOFLAGS) ?
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[13:30:15] <tsoome> there is in a sense that NATIVE_* is meant to be used to build app which is to be running on build host — even if the value is identical now, it may be different later
[13:34:55] <jollyd> tsoome: in this case why is the CFLAGS native and the CCFLAGS not?
[13:35:51] <jollyd> tsoome: I see the value for cross compiling, not sure why CFLAGS picks native flags and CCFLAGS not.
[13:36:10] <jollyd> sorry for the tedious explanation...
[13:36:34] <tsoome> you mean in make/Makefile.com?
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[13:36:53] <jlevon> tsoome: do you have a gcc9 patch for Makefile.uts too
[13:37:07] <tsoome> not yet
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[13:37:19] <tsoome> is it needing one?
[13:37:20] <jlevon> tsoome: it'd be nice to have these ones in a Makefile.cflags or somesuch. it's awful we have to repeat them
[13:37:22] <tsoome> hm
[13:37:30] <jlevon> tsoome: the aggressive loop opts at least
[13:37:53] <tsoome> right, I can add it to the patch, thats why the review is good:D
[13:38:25] <jlevon> there or separately, don't mind
[13:38:46] <jollyd> tsoome: yes in make/Makefile.com
[13:39:05] <tsoome> jlevon: it is in https://illumos.org/rb/r/2215/diff/1#index_header
[13:39:44] <jlevon> tsoome: not following
[13:39:58] <jlevon> hrm
[13:40:08] <jlevon> yeah I'm mis-remembering. never mind.
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[13:41:22] <tsoome> jollyd: yes, it is the problem, the https://illumos.org/rb/r/2214/diff/1#index_header does add it
[13:42:26] <jlevon> I agree with jollyd, technically that def should be using $(NATIVE_MACH) not $(MACH)
[13:43:19] <tsoome> ahm I see now
[13:44:03] <jlevon> I think it turns up as i386 still right/
[13:44:04] <jlevon> ?
[13:46:28] <tsoome> let me see but I’ supose so
[13:46:31] <tsoome> suppose*
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[13:50:28] <tsoome> yes, it currently does translate amd64 to i386
[13:50:34] <tsoome> NATIVE_MACH= $(MACH:amd64=i386)
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[13:53:49] <tsoome> RB updated
[14:03:03] <jollyd> tsoome: I guess ship it then
[14:05:06] <tsoome> :) if you feel ok, press shipit:)
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[14:13:15] <jollyd> tsoome: d.u.n
[14:13:36] <tsoome> thanks:)
[14:18:25] <jollyd> tsoome: (that was the "d.u.n" reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTjeoQ8gRmQ)
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[15:27:33] <tsoome> :)
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[15:55:40] <tsoome> guess what… https://paste.ec/paste/k3V42JzD#MfD95UYhHg54a+9o9vYTXiYLputVOhpCtCnW+a85coc :)
[15:57:55] <wilbury> gcc9? wow
[15:58:22] <jlevon> it boots!
[15:58:31] <tsoome> I have to admit, I did cheat
[15:59:04] <tsoome> it is only loader and unix (actually genunix is building too), but not whole build.
[15:59:15] <tsoome> but I had to try it:)
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[16:14:52] <leoric> andyf: so do you suggest to use the same BUILDPY2TOOLS knob for PYSHEBANG?
[16:15:00] <leoric> ptribble: ^
[16:16:43] <jimklimov> neat!
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[16:27:25] <ptribble> BUILDPY2TOOLS is for the tools, not for deliverables. The available knobs are BUILDPY2 and BUILDPY3.
[16:28:25] <ptribble> The issue, I guess, is if you build both, which one to choose as the default.
[16:29:46] <leoric> yes
[16:30:06] <leoric> so you can't choose one if you build both
[16:30:34] <leoric> that's why I've introduced one more knob
[16:32:44] <jollyd> tsoome: :)
[16:39:13] <jimklimov> tsoome: how does one boot Page 1 of 1 ? :)
[16:48:58] <tsoome> you do not boot pages:P
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[17:05:15] <ptribble> Looking at pyzfs.py, as far as I can tell, it doesn't matter what the shebang is
[17:06:08] <ptribble> The only consumer I can find is the s10 wrapper, which specifies which python to use
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[18:14:58] <jollyd> richlowe: rebuilding all gcc versions, rust and firefox will probably take a few hours, so I can only report about your oi-userland PR tomorrow.
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[18:30:55] <jollyd> tsoome: I am happy to see that whenever I provide toys to you, you put them to good use ;)
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[19:05:21] <rmustacc> leoric: A while back we were talking about the device driver matching tool and how it uses the compatible property and ips.
[19:05:39] <rmustacc> Do you know if https://github.com/illumos/ipd/blob/master/ipd/0009/README.md would cause any trouble?
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[19:23:01] <richlowe> rmustacc: I think the code for the updated ddu is around, I suppose you could try?
[19:24:04] <richlowe> though it turns out I don't know where/which branch of pyhalov/ddu
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[19:38:14] <jollyd> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/ddu oi/hipster
[19:38:32] <jollyd> richlowe, rmustacc: ^
[19:42:09] <rmustacc> richlowe: I just verified that IPS is good with it.
[19:42:18] <rmustacc> I'm not sure with how to run ddu.
[19:42:21] <rmustacc> But I'll try and figure that out.
[19:52:38] <rmustacc> jollyd: THanks for the link. From reading the source, I think it will be fine? But I'll probably need to do some more testing.
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[20:39:24] <andyf> leoric - I was suggesting using BUILDPY2/BUILDPY3.. it has the limitation you identified, but I wonder if that matters to anyone
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[21:59:33] <gwr> Can anyone remind me what to do about this in a build log?
[21:59:33] <gwr> turning off implications after 60 seconds
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[22:12:48] <jlevon> gwr: review my RTI ? :)
[22:16:15] <rmustacc> Also, did you get the updated smatch default?
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[22:21:03] <clapont> hi everyone!
[22:21:29] <rmustacc> Hello
[22:21:53] <wilbury> hi
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